Just post images of DDR shit idc what it is
>>41484939This is my threadStasi files swagger
How’s this, anon?
East Germany was pretty sicko mode
Guten abend, Genossen.
Got mit uns!
>>41485312They’re commies. I think you mean>gott ist tot
Patrolling the border almost makes you wish for nuclear fire
Done dumping for now. Will add more later if any genossen would appreciate.
Here an mpi kms 74 clone I did awhile back
Recommended reading for /k/
>>41485410>Here an mpi kms 74 clone I did awhile backAbsolutely fucking outstanding
>>41485501Thanks broheem, only wish I hadn't sold it.
>>41485525>>>41485501 (You)>Thanks broheem, only wish I hadn't sold it.Hopefully to someone who understands and appreciates the DDR for its outstanding aesthetics, glory, and legacy? ;_;7
>>41484939Did someone say DDR?
>>41485553Yea, a good internet buddy got it, he sperged out when he saw I had posted it and gobbled it up. He is a big collector of nazi and ddr weapons. It's in a happy forever home.
East German feuerwehr + stahlhelm
>>41485336That's pretty damn cool
>>41485705Firefighting is one of my interests, combine that with Cold War stuff and you get:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YPyYfd-s2kI've seen DDR Feuerwehr as refuting the point that it was due to Soviet-influenced politics that the NVA did not use the traditional Stahlhelm. Firefighters wore it (in both Germany's) but soldiers were not because it was thought that the Bundeswehr would continue to wear them and the NVA wanted to avoid friendly-fire/confusion on a battlefield.
>>41485846Very awesome borther thanks for the pic
Hmm yes, wife material
>tfw you will never be in the NVA
>>41485336> Imperial troops have entered the base! Imperial troops have entered the <squelch>
>will never find a full bolt of experimental digital stritchtarn fabricThe hunt is still on, I was able to find a small scrap from an old UTV pouch.
>c.. cmon, anon, touch my magic wand
In another timeline...
>>41486815more like>in fantasy land, where communism wasn't inheritly stained with built-in retardation, anti-progressivism, anti-individualism that killed all innovation, and ultra-beurocracy I like the aesthetics, but lets be honest.>t.40yo post-commie boomer
>>41486857Towards the very end of the DDR they were trying to work in some reforms like less centralization of the economy, free travel, and free elections. Too bad for the SED that much like in the USSR & other Comm. states, the people used those new freedoms to tell the party to fuck off. Understandably so. The time had long passed to simply patch things up and improve them.
>>41484939So speaking of DDR shit, since Gowen Militaria has gone off to the void, where do we get our DDR shit from now guys?
>>41486965God, I remember how in early 90's you could buy DDR and Soviet uniforms in top condition, tall sizes, super quality, excellent coats etc literally for close to nothing. They sold rain pattern wardrobe by the kilos.Should have stockpiled them, Id be rich now.Oryginal rain pattern wardrobe in non-manlet sizes is rare & very expenaive now.Same with green greatcoats.
Für Frieden und Sozalismus Genossen!
>>41485846What is that piece of equipment their using
>>41488164Some artillery shit to make many things more deader far away.Seriously, who gives a fuck?
>>41488223>>41488237Fuck off with this trash you useless fetishist.
My ssg 82
>>41488245>asks for DDR shit>says doesn't care what it is>then doesn't want pictures from an actual anime set entirely therelaughingcapitalists.webm
If you like east german SU-22s watch this video. Original audio.https://youtu.be/jgBX3LKDvFg
>>41488183Being not autistic about weapon specifications isn't very /k/ of you
>>41485721Nah, they're NVA. Cops wore green uniforms and utilized a different style of shoulder boards for sergeant ranks.
>tfw no L.A. Noire-esque vidya set in East Germany
I just got my East German webbing set from Ivan. The only expensive part was the Bayonet, the cost of everything else is comparable to what I could piece together from Varusteleka and Numrich. The NVA cheaped out on the tent poles, the wood is dollar store broomstick wood. However, the shelter half is 11/10, high quality and beats the crap out of Plash Palatka in design and execution. The 41” belt on my set measures to 34”, perhaps I got a FDJ belt instead of an NVA one, it fits my skelly frame with a T-shirt, but I’ll need to get another belt to wear with a tunic. Nonetheless, the kit is well designed, well executed, good for a day hike innawoods, or invading Western Europe, wish the factory could be reopened and crank out some more.
>>41488441The screenshots are from Muv-luv Schwarzesmarken 1983, there's also an anime for it but it's rushed.
>>41490183>>41485755What camo is this?
>>41490755Flachtarnenmuster, probably more commonly known as Blumentarn
>>41488246How does it shoot? I have always found them to be really cool, I could just never justify the price tag.
>>41488246Just looked it up, an actual East German gun. A sniper rifle in 5.45, very interesting.>>41491953Early NVA has a look very different from itself a few decades later. Kind of surprised they didn't use more Third Reich weapons (I've seen pictures of early Volkspolizei with StG-44s) but I guess since the supply chain was now Soviet, they were using Soviet guns that were mostly surplus.
>/k/ whel literally any other communist state or organization is mention>"all commies must hang, i'm ready for the boogaloo>/k/ when ddr is mentioned>" GAS THE BURGOISE, CLASS WAR NOW"
>>41492167German with strong Prussian tradition, unique look, effective training, very little negative connotations compared to what came before. What's not to love?(Criticizing the DDR, are you mad? Don't you know *they're* listening?)
>>41492267> very little negative connotations compared to what came beforeBecause they did literally nothing except for keeping people from escaping their country?
>>41492366The government definitely did some negative things, but most of them were confined to within East Germany. So most people turn a blind eye to it because they do not know about it. East Germany only really stirs actual emotional feelings in those who lived in/next to it. Even with the Ostalgia, the collapse of the nation and unification is mostly seen as a net positive.It's not like the Third Reich which not only had oppression within its borders but where it kept trying to expand its borders. Where much of the world was affected and people know about it, even if they weren't alive back then.
>>41491929It shoots really good. Better than me, that's for sure.I traded a PTR 91 for this at a fudd LGS.Honestly, if they made this gun today, it would probably cost more than $2500. The rifle is Olympic quality.The gun is built with wicked tight tolerances and special design features.Things like adjustable trigger positions, trigger pull, adjustable buttstock, etc. My trigger is set at .7lbs, I think.Most of the problems you read about on the forums comes down to user error.I've shot over 400 rounds through it without a single problem.
>>41492554Thanks for the info fren.
>>41492524Guten Tag, Gennose. No dissidents here.
>>41492595Ah! Das ist sehr gut. Nachdem Ihr Beitrag abgelöst wurde, holen Sie sich Popcorn. :)
>>41492706Hallo mein gute Freund!
>>41492677^O w O^ Es ist der Uhu. Danke.
>>41492524Guten Abend, comrade Owl!
>>41492759I feel like wearing an M56 as a motorcycle helmet wouldn't be a very good idea. But if you're in the field as a scout or messenger then there's little choice.
A certain young KGB man in East Germany, circa 1980s.
>>41492524Guten Abend Herr Eule, Sie haben einen schönen Hut!
>>41492985He really doesn't age, does he?When the East German citizens were trying to raid the Stasi headquarters and secure any documents, they also approached the KGB headquarters in Dresden. Putin, the commanding officer there, told them to disperse and that they would be shot if they tried to enter.
>>41492524guten tag parteigenossen eule
>>41484939I think that the main reason for the DDR's utter greatness was the unlikely fusion of Russian and German influences. You had a German state that continued nationalist heraldry after WWII with all the pomp and circumstance of Prussian tradition, bolstered by Russian propagandists- tall boots and steel helmets and jingling eagle-topped standards marching down Berlin avenues. Proud Soviet songs/singing choirs mishmashed with German marches and tradition (Grosser Zapfenstreich, Erich-Weinert Ensemble etc.) produced wonderful things. You don't even need to be a commie to have your heart stirred by the aesthetics and sound and pride of it all. Sad to see it gone, in a way.
>>41493308I wouldn't want to live there, but I appreciate it and respect it in a way. How everything seemed so close. It gives an aura of family within the nation but a large part of that is because the government controlled pretty much everything.Still, the unification could have been more of a merging of the two countries cultures rather than the West becoming everything. Understandable that people who suffered under Communism for decades wanted to get away from it entirely but now I can also see some things from East Germany that could be welcomed additions to modern Germany. That sense of pride, a reverence for history, and striving to achieve their best because that reflects on them as a people and as a nation. Even East Germany had migrants but they were aided, educated, trained, and then put back into their original nation to use those skills to improve it.
>>41493558I agree with many of the points you made, really wish that the BW had made more efforts to integrate NVA tradition/musicianship/uniform for the new, unified army. The gemutlich feeling you describe kinda died off, so it seems.
>>41493630Kind of surprised they went with an obvious Russian Ushanka for a winter hat and didn't create their own.
>>41493686They initially used an M43 derivative, but switched to the fur cap in the mid-1960s.
>>41486815What is that sick fucking rifle
>>41488207That Nato snake is dope
>>41494014Wieger StG-940, the ultimate mix of Slavshit and traditional German precision engineering.And yes, it's Wieger, NOT Weiger.
>>41493779Probably not as warm but they look nice. There you really go see the carryovers from the Wehrmacht and the influence of the Soviets with the rifles.>>41493824[Holy fuck that lady's eyebrows.]>>41494014Wieger StG-941. East Germany was looking at making their own family of AKs (the 940 series) for export in both Soviet and NATO calibers.
Bless this thread and bless the NVAposters
>>41484939>With their ridiculous fur hats, conspicuous sunglasses, absurd facial hair and awkward catalogue poses, you'd be forgiven for laughing at these cringe-worthy retro pictures.>But the reality behind the images is horrifying. These are agents of the dreaded Stasi, East Germany's startlingly effective secret police that turned the Communist country into a paranoid dystopia.
>>41494303Eastern bloc threads seem to usually be polite & informative. Everyone is comrades! >>41494907>Two camerasWell of course he is a spy. Though I'd probably peg him as imperialist CIA rather than Stasi (praise the defenders of our Socialist fatherland. (Please don't arrest me.))
>>41494025In days gone by, when drawfags were common, one might dream of a sick unit patch.
>>41488164Artillery kit, but I know that the system in the background is a 9K52 Luna-M MLRS (well, not really multiple rockets...)
>>41497725Diensteinheit IX got some HK stuff through some deals since they were a counter-terrorism unit. Had they gotten some pistols then maybe they could have been copied and produced.
>>41497771Towards the end they wanted to get away from that, though.That's why the ssg 82 and that one machine pistol were being introduced.
PROTIP: all pictures of masked dudes with mixed Eastern/Western weaponry show reunification-era (as evidenced by the Bundesrepublik-style "POLIZEI" stenciled across their backs, something that was never done in the DDR) SWAT guys. The Diensteinheit XI label is often falsely attributed to these images to explain the mixed kit.
>>41498180Interesting.Here is a neat little reference for the diensteinheit IX uniforms. Not a whole lot, but still really cool.http://www.tierfreunde-luebben.de/41517.html
>tfw no German gf
>>41488252Very nice. Thank you.
I've got a Strichtarn jacket that's cut similarly to the Fallschirmjager jacket with the exposed sleeve things but it's got a traditional collar and as far as I can find all the fallschirmjager jackets have that very minimal collar. It's also got a drawstring on the right side. Anyone have an idea? Don't have photos handy
The best AK variant that never got anywhere:
>>41498245>Antifaschistische PolizeiFucking keke
>>41498284 >>41498279this is exactly it. Anyone know what cut this jacket is called? Or what branch used it?
>>41498295P. sure it's just the NVA's regular winter field jacket.
>worshipping antigun, anti freedom commie dictatorshipsThe absolute STATE of nu-/k/
>>41493558>>41493645There was no reason to. There's a fascinating book (caution, it's Academia so it's still a tad masturbatory) about what happened to NVA officers, but there truly was no reason to give even a inch to them: no political gain, no military reason, no cultural reason. The DDR lost and everything about it (first of all its elites) had to be buried to avoid any kind of strife or competition (also the destiny, on a more /k/ bent, of the East German weapon industry, that was top tier for what it was). German reunification was a badly managed mess the more you read about it, on the side of the Wessies for easy triumphalism and looting and on the side of the Ossies for believing in the land of milk and honey.>>41494064A frankly amusing project. They won't give us the chance of exporting 74s pattern rifles? We're going to make our own and in NATO calibers!
>>41498594Grün ist unser fallschirm is a banger tho
>>41499328Sounds like an interesting book I may have to check out. From what I've read and watched, NVA officers were pretty shafted by the whole thing. Nearly all soldiers were shoved out, most officers retired because there was no need for them, a few stuck around for about a year before being dismissed; having served in the NVA carried a bit of a stigma which hurt employment chances in a freer market.As for being mismanaged, just from a military standpoint, the German government lost money because they inherited so much NVA/Warsaw Pact stuff they would not be using and there was no good solution for what to do with it. Couldn't sell all of it, scrapping it was costly, and it wasn't all museum worthy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq7R1i6yYqc&t=Every now and then you see some of it pop up in Africa or the Middle East. Always get a small smile when I see an MPi-KM, M56, or some Strichtarn in a random photo or video.
>>41499571Only if you're a dumbass Australian who scribbles random names on his kit.
Police SWAT team in the 89-91 transitional period wearing paratrooper uniforms and what seems to be commercial body armor. Since West Germany didn't have enough uniforms to outfit a huge influx of new personnel, former Vopos now employed by the Federal Republic initially retained their DDR uniforms and gear.
>>41492267>prussian traditionsin looks only, tactics and mentality in the bundeswehr were more prussian than the nva could ever be
>>41500330>implyingBecause having long hair and generally being undisciplined slobs is as Prussian as it gets, right?
>>4149236690% of the migration to the west came before there was any kind of hard border between the two, and was in large part motivated by the fact that the West German government was offering people free shit to defect.
>>41500330Can you elaborate on tactics? I'm curious.As for mentality, I kind of associate that with nepotism and elitism if the World Wars are anything to go by, where you get high rank by being a noble family. >>41500483Didn't even need to offer free shit, Easterners came over because they could and a lot decided to stay because it was obviously better. Bombing damage actually repaired and shops actually stocked.
>>41486857Well, there's nothing outlandish in imagining the DDR would adopt body armor and a decent vest. The USSR did it and it wasn't any less socialistic than East Germany. Plus, the shitty infantry gear of the average East Bloc infantryman isn't due to "anti progressivism" or "killed innovation" (seriously? we're talking about the countries which invented composite armor, airborne warfare, the IFV, the fastest armed plane ever, modern AA networks and nuclear powered missile battlecruisers) but due to the low priority infantry got in the modernisation ladder.The thing was that the infantry was less important than the tanks, which were less important than artillery, which was less important than missiles. So, the average rifleman got the short end of the stick in terms of modernisation budget, and that's how in the 80s you could see Soviet soldiers in khaki uniforms with riding breeches and canvas ammo pouches straight out of the 20s running along with tanks with smoothbore guns that could shoot ATGMs and helicopter gunships.
>>41500726I'd like to add to your reasoning: NATO wasn't better. I mean, minors like Italy had frontline units still running around with Garands in the 80ies, and considering small arms the DDR had arguably a superior platform than the vast majority of its opponents.
>>41492741:)>>41493043Danke mein Freund!>>41493167Partys machen Spass!
>>41491953interesting photo.Sad that those weapons (Soviet) were used to kill their own fathers.
Kampfgruppen were based. BASED!
>>41501842I wish there were more. >>41501851Those poor bastards if war ever actually broke out...
>>41502000>It's cold>My feet hurt from goosestepping>Kurt's next to me and his father was in the Wehrmacht, I don't like Kurt or his father>The rain is making my Stahlhelm ring>Today would have been the day I had marked to get my Trabant
>>41485626Happy ending all around. Thank you for sharing anon
Huh. Actually hit the image limit, forgot it was only 150 on /k/. Really good thread, thanks OP and everyone else.Until the next DDR/Warsaw Pact/Second World/Eastern Bloc thread.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tenrxo_COk
Maybe the real Reich was the friends we made along the way
>>41489920Stasimouto best girl
>>41489189What is that bottom piece? Is it the bag for the shelter half poles?
Thread is kino af
>>41502679>>41504668Aren't we here to protect the worker and the farmer? Good thread indeed.Before this gets nuked, I do have a random question tho. What about civvie target pistols/rifles in the DDR? I know of course that by law all the guns had to be kept at the local firing range, but I'm legit curious if someone knows about the "lesser" DDR production. Did they use MCMs as target pistols? I do know about the Mpi-69, but what about bolt-action .22s? If some anon can enlighten me, that would be great.
>>41508172they mostly just used halo 3 gun