What's the most slide cracking, primer flattening, bear smoking 10mm load you've heard of?Swampfox ammo used to use 14.6 grains of longshot powder to chuck a 135 grain jhp from a glock 20 at 1700 fps.https://rangehot.com/a-tribute-to-william-mike-willard-of-swamp-fox-ammunition/
>>41189539https://youtu.be/1NH_b37N4Q0A few of the shots in this video break 900 ft lbs. From a 4.6 inch barrel. You could consistently get over a thousand ft lbs of energy using a 6 inch barrel.
>>41189539I would probably stick to something that Buffalo Bore offers...Probably as hot as you'd wanna go without running the risk of pistol blowing up in your hand.
155 grain XTP at 1550 fps from a 5.2" threaded barrelyes I've checked the velocities at a chronograph. this shit causes early slide unlocking with factory recoil spring.https://youtu.be/25chrvfVdFA?t=16
>>41189539Nothing special about that, you just reload your own ammo go with the max load your powder manufacturer recommends and increase in generous steps until you blow yourself up you stupid nigger.
>>41189555Goddamn. That's another 50 fps faster then underwoods load from the same barrel length.>>41189547This guys still got you beat by another 50-75 fps though.
>>41189563>>41189555Just watched the video now. Goddamn I had no idea they underrated their 10mm ammo.
>>41189559I wanna know how far people have gotten.
>>41189559>>41189563I've seen Underwood do conservative reporting on more than one occasion. Not only is their ammo cheaper, they are very humble about their claims.
>>41189569You can go as far as you want until your particular pistol blows up, taking your fingers with it.If you're looking for a bear round, just buy a box or two of Buffalo Bore, ensure reliable function, and be done with it.
>>41189539>135gr nosler designed for .40 S&W velocities>going at 1700fpsFor what purpose? that bullet literally gets like 8-9" of penetration at 1500-1600fps. Why bother with nuclear loads that only have enough penetration for varminting.
>>41189602That's why people don't carry them. They carry 155 grains and heavier.
>>41189539What do those retarded Liberty 60gr 2400fps loads do out of a 6" G40 barrel?
Anybody heard about machine pistol only ammo?I remember that Finns made some for KP31.Why isn't such stuff more common?
>>41189965What that is is classic +p ammo, which pistols of the time could not use. Any modern pistol would be fine.
OP here,I shot a deer with this 10mm. Holy Molly !!!
>>41190008OH VEY, wrong image
Buffalo Bore offers some great stuff. I use the 220g hard cast. 1400fps If I recall. Great stuff availible locally for decent prices.
>>41192999If you're as honest as these digits, I understand why 10mmfags are obsessed with it
>>41193016one (1) shot, one (1) kill [or two (2)] !
>>41189539>14.6 grains of longshot powderJesus. I load 6.2 grains of Longshot in my 9mm loads, using magnum primers, and their hot as fuck.
>>41192980>replying to particularly bad bait
>>41193237>particularlyYour 9mm Cuck Glock is bait
>>41193237Don't bulli me, I've never seen 10mm wounds, I just know its the only real autoloading pistol round you might actually want if a bear decided to say hi
I might happen to be employed in SA. What would be the most appropriate load for self defense for glock 20?There might be many dindus with machine guns and i think 10mm should be sufficent.
>>41193325>I've never seen 10mm woundsIts a nice round. Works for Nogs as well
>>41189539I want these for a 10mm Carbine. Imagine the truckloads of energy you can get out of 10" barrel?
>>41193449Youd probably get full .223 performance with more caliber.Imagine thatProjectile weights from 60 to 230 grains, launched with the energy of a intermediate rifle cartridge.Basically 300 blackout but you can share ammo with a sidearm
The best 10MM load is 9x25. Sorry bros.
>>41193392Do the niggers have body armor in your country?If not go with a 180-200 grain jhp.155 grain if you want sheer energy.
>>41189559Fix it till it's broke some people are destined to be forever poor.
>>41192942I know Underwood gets ~1300 fps with 220 grain hardcast from a glock 40.
>>41194823Best at what?9x25 guys make no sense to me, 10mm has more energy and better projectiles for the energy range.
>>41190028>>41193198I too remember that .300 win mag discussion a couple days back.>>41194823Current 9x25 loads are unironically garbage. Even boutique stuff is barely loaded hotter than .357 sig, they just advertise it out of a 6" barrel to make it seem like it isn't shit. We're talking less than 100fps difference here between the two.>>41194871I mean 9x25D is the best at being a head scratcher of a round:>low pressure means it performs identically to a cartridge so much smaller than it that it can fit in a 9mm frame firearm>literally made by like 5 companies, can almost never be found in stores>only ever loaded with FTM bullets, 9mm, or even better yet .380 ACP bullets, the latter two almost fail immediately on impact providing babby tier penetrationIts a cartridge that idiots and the uninformed meme about.
>>41189539So barsto says their 10mm barrels have a tensile strength of 180k psiDoes that mean I could load a round up to 180k psi?
>>41195649Don't listen to this other Anon shit on your dreams Anon
>>41194818Not to mention less bulky magazine sticks meaning you can carry more mags.It'd make one hell of a bug out carry.Though you'd have to work on the sidearm to make sure it can handle the same hot and heavy loads.
>>41194871Solid copper is the best bullet type. Weights are similar but 9x25 has more velocity which means better energy.Permanent cavity volume with a Lehigh XD is 2-3 times the volume of even the best hollow points.High velocity solid copper is the way forward.
>>41195003Angry poorfag detected.
>>41195777Checked. Any ideas on how to accomplish 180k psi? Fill the casing with high explosives?
>>41195958Xds need large projectile diameter to work as good as possible
>>41195958Yeah but Barnes bullets are fucking expensive though.
>>41195994You could start with a compressed load of Norma R1 and apply the crimp with bolt cutters. If there's anything thing left you could try filling the case with tatp
>>41196041Use Lehigh boolits
>>41189572I love this about Underwood. They give you ACTUAL practical velocity readings unlike most Ammo companies who will give you 5.56 velocities out of a 24”. Barrel like that’s what most people shoot 5.56 out of. >I’m looking at your Fiocchi and AE Atleast Fiocchi tells you it’s a 24” barrel on the Ammo box
>>41196025In a multi-agency test on gel and animal corpses velocity was the most important factor, not diameter. If diameter was the most important factor 460 Rowboat would be the way to go, not 10MM.>>41196041Lehigh, not Barnes. A solid copper hollow point is still a hollow point, you mongoloid.
>>41196547Its velocity and caliber10mm hits the sweet spot of both
>>411966249x25 is wildcat shit and no one sells it and if they do its expensive as fuck.10mm for target shooting is as cheap as 280 dollars per 1000 rounds.
>>41196624I'd rather run hot 357sig which is the most like the 9x25 cosmetically.
>>41196664Lol this normie doesn’t even handload.
>>41196624Yeah nah bro.Nice try tho.
>>41189569Then look at T/C loads
>>41194871So the thing is, the 9x25 has better sectional density with similar weights while having that extra pressure behind it. I feel 10mm is better as a whole but 9x25 has some perks. Like hitting the same speeds as that gay ass 7.5FK without the gay ass gun
>>411950039x25, not .38 super. Hell look at 9x23Winchester
>>41197172What an excellent counter argument! Truly, my way of thinking has been changed!
>>41194818Imagine being able to stabilize bullets
>>4119814410mm stabilizes 230 grain just fine with a 6 inch barrel.
>>41189555What about adding a suppressor to increase the locking time and reduce recoil?
>>41198487I upgraded from the factory #17 recoil spring to a #22 which works fine for all ammunition.
>>41195970Assmad 9x25 fanboy detected. You're just angry people are catching on to your meme.>>41196547>In a multi-agency test on gel and animal corpsesYou mean in that "test" on beef brisket and maybe gel(never actually shown) that a private training company claimed was a multi-agency test? the one filled with basic grammatical mistakes, zero sources, the general writing level of an 9th grader, and that can't name any involved agencies because "lol opsec"? That's a real good primary source right there to hang your hat on. FWIW according to the folks that designed the round, bullet diameter is actually very important when it comes to wounding with it. IIRC they actually go out of their way to mention diameter as THE important factor while almost ignoring velocity, although i trust actual testing more than a companies claims any day of the week. Seemed to me going off the meat tests i've personally seen that 10mm and .45 super create the biggest holes with them. Kinda a surprise since i was ready to ship .357 sig and 9x25 as the obvious choices in that design.>>41197172Check out lehigh's own patent on the design and get back to me on that.>>41198116What do you mean by this?
>>41196624Eh, look at the 10mm through beef.
>>41196624Compared to .45 super. The 10mm BTFOs the 9mm and .40, but the .357 and .45 super seem better than it form what little i've seen.
>>41198459And I replied to a post that said 60 to 230
>>41190028that dude's aim is shit
>>41197172that's actually the reasoning for the 6.8 spc. best balance of bc/velocity similar to 6-6.5mm and more lethal similar to .30 cal
>>4119921960 also stabilizes fine
>>41198957Those steaks are probably less 'fluid' then living human meat.Also, was that a 100 grain CD? What barrel length?
>>41189987Interesting.I have tried to find info on it previously but it is scarce.
>>41198957So you cutted your meatlight after fucking and made it dirty ? Good way to hide it IMAO
>>41198926>maybe gel(never actually shown)Oh good, another round of "Lehigh bought a fake report to sell XP/XD, and it makes 5.7 look good for no reason". And this time you're suggesting that they just made up all the gel numbers, on the grounds that nobody showed you a picture of a gel block?If your point is that you can only trust visual evidence, then on one hand you'll find plenty of gelatin tests on youtube. (Even a few that aren't n=1.) On the other hand, anyone with the dedication to come up with page after page of fake numbers could just as easily shoot the gel block with one load, then claim the damage is from a different load -- it seems irrational for your default level of trust in someone's supposed test results to depend on the format they're presented in.Here's an alternative: you could look at the data to see how well it lines up with other testing, and if the results you can readily verify seem to match up with published results from other sources, and provided you have no actual reason to distrust the data or the author, you could tentatively accept it as probably honest?>basic grammatical mistakes>the general writing level of an 9th graderIn a report purporting to be by and for cops, renowned for their high IQ? Positively shocking, anon.(I do agree it seems odd to call beef briskets "animal corpses", though, not sure if that anon didn't even read the report or what.)
>>41195994Load a mixed charge of accurate #5 and retumbo. Heap it in the case and crush the largest bullet you can down on top of it. Then apply a generous crimp
>>41190008this hoodrat got stabbed
>>41195994Duplex loads, mix magnum pistol powder and fast rifle powder and enjoy the explosion.