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ITT: We discuss onaholes, dolls, and every thing else we stick our junk into because using just your hand is for peasants.

>Tomax temporarily sold out at ToyDemon, promised to be back this month. Motsu still stocking most of the models

The guide: http://pastebin.com/hwhGL66a
It was cleaned up and updated.

- Protip: Ctrl+F "06. Recommendations" in the guide to get a good list of beginner friendly holes -

Please read the guide, use the archive, don't shitpost. Follow global and local rules. Don't reply, report and ignore instead.

Length, girth, budget and geographical location are extremely important in determining your next best course of action!

DOLLS

doll mfgs
good mid teir dolls, priced 1-3k or so($-low price,
midprice,
higher end prices; all relative to size)
TPE:
wmdollshop.com (1-3k)
dh168 www.dollhouse168.biz/index.php (1-2k)
http://www.hgdoll.net/ (also sells other mfg including catdoll, approved vendor 1-2k)
https://catdoll.club/ (800-1.5k)
piperdoll.com (1-2k)
d4e www.doll-forever.com/en/ (1.5-2.5k)
jydoll (can be seen on hgdoll 1-2k)
https://www.j-suntech.net/ (500-2k, reseller for silicone at markup)
axb
http://www.dollter.com/ (500-1.5k)
http://www.irontechdoll.com/
https://www.hidollshop.com/ (clones, 1-2k)
https://www.sydolls.com/


silicone:
dsdoll dsdoll.us or exdoll.com (sister sites, all models available from both, also dsdolleurope.com) (2-4.5k)
sanhuidolls.com (2-4.5k)
gynoid? www.thecityofsexy.com (4-6k)
aikodoll(US based, 60/80cm) (500-800)
4woods AI Doll: https://aidoll.4woods.jp/ (4k and up)
Another high-end silicone doll company. About as expensive as OI, but it has offered more variety of body types.

3rd parties(can be cheaper or more expensive, check with the mfg site)
thesilverdoll.com
reallovesexdolls.com

CatDoll is highly recommended. They ship from the USA too. Anons say their pussy design is the best too.
The other vendor recommended is HGdoll, but I think those have to be imported. The nice thing about them is their selection.
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>>22056822
Is it true parody holes are that bad? I might buy the oriemo one, but If I buy it I might get blasted by customs.
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>>22056919
For parody holes their usually on the small side and boring, You are mostly paying for the box art if anything really
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>>22056971
8 bucks can’t be bad can it?
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can't decide between 2 dolls.

Same head, but one has a more natural looking body, but the other has tig 'ol bitties.

Looks like a $400 price difference, though... otherwise tits mcgee would win hands down.

Which would Ona pick? A or B?
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>onaholes supposedly arriving today
>spend all day waiting
>it's 6pm and they still haven't arrived
>figure fuck it, not coming today then
>leave house for 10 minutes to get food
>get a text on the way home
>"delivery failed, nobody home"
GO FUCKING FUCK YOURSELF YOU FAGGOT FUCKS
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>Unfortunately, the Lilith Uterus - Regular is out of stock, very weird because you should have got the last one.

I just wanted to fap in bliss again. Motsu doesn't restock Tomax for two months. Anything similar I could get in the meantime?
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>Not doing nofap
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Is there anyway to add a head and wig to the Nui doll? This is my first doll and I don't know if I should just buy a more expensive one.
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>>22057590
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>>22057543
few days is ok but prolonged is prostate problems.
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>>22057543
Who are you quoting?
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>>22057691
nope
>>22057715
me
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>>22057517
Pretty sure i snagged the last one 2 days ago. Sorry bro
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>>22057874
I ordered September 5 EU time.
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>>22057517
phew. my paranoia payed off when I ordered immediately they stocked them.
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>>22057904
Well i ordered 2 days ago EU time and its getting delivered sooo....
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>>22057943
>its getting delivered sooo....

jinxed. now it will come in torn box as motsu tradition
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busty aichans white vs chichifueta (non-rocket), anyone have both have an opinion on both?
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>buy some 120 dollar figurine
>Use an onahole to fap and use the figurine solely as fap material
Bros im stepping closer and closer to depravity, once i move out ill buy a 3000 doll next
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what's the best way to take my mind off an ona that's in shipping? i've been fapping/edging for the past week in anticipation for its arrival, but i'm starting to get aches, i *need* to cum.
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>>22058893
Cum
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>>22057965
Well that would suck... are their boxes really that bad? Would prefer if mommy didnt see what i ordered.
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>>22058893
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I NEEEEED TO COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>22058696
what figurine
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>>22058975
it will be either perfectly fine or chewed up cardboard
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>>22058992
its harder than you think!
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>>22058893
go for a walk away from pc
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Is there a bidding or sale site where you can pick up some life size dolls used?
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So help me out guys. I am pretty stacked with cash and willing to dole out up to 10k USD for an anime styled cat/kemonomimi girl full sized doll. Perhaps similar to OPs pic but nicer. Is there anything available?
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>>22059302
CatDoll will make you a custom head for like 1k.
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>>22059309
Looking into it. Ty.
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Basically I am looking to find a good base doll with a decent anime face to recreate kemonomimi girls like Liru, Holo, Black Hanekawa etc. Clothes are not a problem, finding a good anime type doll without the uncanny valley is.
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>>22057314
You learned a valuable lesson.
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>>22059470
I mean, what kind of fucking delivery man is out that late though, come on.
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>>22059495
Just tell them ro drop it off.
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messy hair
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>>22059562
Yichhh... no torso.
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>>22059279
Pretty sure there's a WTS section in the doll forums.
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>>22059495
>tfw my mail has been delivered after 7pm a few times these last few weeks
>tfw the latest delivery was at about 9:30pm
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>>22059562
Which doll is this?
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>>22056822
Has anyone tried this
https://www.jlist.com/ao034
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>>22059562
dyed shirt....
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>>22060155
It's okay-ish. It's probably one of the better ones when it comes to these kinds of a parody holes, but not worth $15. You can get something a lot better for that.
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How the heck do you do hair tails? Are there wigs specially made to be tied up? And not just those ones with attachable tails.

>>22059952
AS148.
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>>22060259
Is there any links to a directory of parody holes?
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>>22060790
Not that I'm aware of. Most "serious" onahole hobbyists know to ignore them and the kinds of people who see the box art and go for them tend not to care enough to catalog them.
Tamatoys keeps pumping them out at an efficiency that it's actually pretty impressive. If there's an anime/girl that's taking off and becoming popular, they'll probably have something with that design (or a design that's recognizable as that without actually infringing on anybody's copyright) on the shelves by the end of the week. That's likely why the designs and quality tend to be really bad.
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>>22060765
Most wigs are made to be slick back and parting the hair where it was not designed to be parted will show that cloth mesh thing that holds the hairs in place.
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>>22060834
Interesting.
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>that torso with a chamber to store liquid to make it squirt/piss
Funniest ona gimmick I've seen in a while.
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>>22060259
I can get it for 8 dollars on another website
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>>22056919
Some of them are good, but they are typically few and far between

>>22056999
That's if shipping doesn't rape you instead

>>22056807
>>22060155
It's generally one of the very few parody holes that's held in a positive opinion. Just keep in mind that it is small and if you're anything larger than 4 inches or already have a bunch of onas in the first place, you'd be better off with something else. I have it since I ordered it with a bunch of other holes one time
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Reminder that the Chichifueta Rockets are live and pre-orderable from ToyDemon.

https://www.toydemon.com/chichifueta-rocket

Scheduled to ship this month and for cheaper than what you can get them for (with shipping) on Hotpowers. You also get $25+ in points to spend on onas. Unfortunately you can't use coupons for free shit when you order it though. Feels bad.
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>>22061929
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So do fuckdolls have like heaters in them you can turn on so the pussy isn't cold?
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>>22062189
the newer models have heaters, yes.
also speakers for audio.
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>>22062199
What kind of audio, and how natural does it sound?
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>>22062007
No. I am serious. What the hell am I gonna do with a plastic cut out girls chest?
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Any with ai integration and stuff?
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>>22062348
What about a sexbot that can run Doom?
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>>22062360
If your sex doll bot can't run Doom, she's not worth the money.
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Id love to play my Columbine .wad while fucking my doll.
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>>22062289
If you have to ask, then the product isn't for you.
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>>22062435
Complete garbage taste. Play Plutonia instead.
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>>22062435
>>22062469
>playing doom while fucking doll
>it's not hdoom
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>>22062487
H-Doom is really unfinished still, and the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.
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I want my sexbot to grind my pelvis into dust to e1m1.
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>>22059054
her curvy legs and ass coupled with a peek of her panties just made my dick ache that I wish there was a life sized version of this figure
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>>22062210
no clue man. check youtube / pornhub
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What are the odds I'll get investigated by police if I order a doll sized like a 13 year old?
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does anyone else insert silica pack in their onaholes?
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>tfw I just cuddle my doll now
She is sitting on my lap as I type this message. Cleaning is too much of a hassle. Now I just buy her cute clothes and she sits in my lap as I am reading or browsing the internet. Sometimes we fall asleep together. All in all, glad I purchased her and her sister soon
>>22062840
Country? or state if USA?
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what clothing materials are safe for TPE?

Just ordered my doll tonight and trying to figure out how to best protect her against staining.
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>>22061018
Where is this thing?
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>>22063319
For everything, just wash it a few times. I always wash clothes until I can soak them in water and the water comes out clear, then I wash them one more time after that, before I put them on my doll.
White silks, stockings, satin, etc is good temporary clothes until you finish washing everything else. Even then if you have lots of dark outfits, you can put a white body stocking on her to prevent the darks from bleeding onto her skin. I dont find this necessary but if you have an outfit that is pretty much all black I would do it.

Dont put her in leather, ever. Much stain potential.
Bigger issue is scratching her with rough materials. Lace is surprisingly rough. Any scratchy, rough, similar materials you need to be careful when dressing/undressing to avoid physical damage.
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>>22063376
so a white polyester/cotton kimono should be safe at first

Does the oil from the TPE stain, or does it just make "wet" areas look dark until the oil washes out or evaporates?
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>>22063375
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07WHW4NFX
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>>22063376
also, I'm guessing feaux leather is also a no-go, like this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K6K365Y/?coliid=I10GX5D5HSH8D7&colid=29UP871KIAHPA&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
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>>22063381
>so a white polyester/cotton kimono should be safe at first
yes, very first thing I bought was a white lace nightgown until I ordered more outfits.

>Does the oil from the TPE stain, or does it just make "wet" areas look dark until the oil washes out or evaporates?
Do you mean like if you place the doll on furniture, will the furniture get stained? I never tested so I have no idea. She lays on my bedsheets without issue though. Once a month or so I give her baby oil to make sure she stays properly oiled.

>>22063407
I would give her a layer of white or some lighter color so that it isn't touching her directly when using this.
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>>22063451
I meant more like will she stain my bedsheets or white kimono. I'm guessing not so much
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Is it worth buying the lusty slut or the lusty hot spring? Slut. The latter is top of onadougga right now, so I am really tempted
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>>22063549
oil stains yes.
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I wish lazuli anon would post some more pictures, but he's probably emptying his balls every single minute.
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>>22063451
>baby oil

wont that completely fuck her skin?
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>>22063451
What the fuck. Aren't you supposed to only apply a small layer of corn starch and minimal water rinse if anything
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>>22063238
____Sweden.
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>>22064574
Just tell them you are Muslim.
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>>22063942
My balls are indeed quite empty, but I'll do a photoshoot and writeup now that I'm free on the weekend. Don't worry dude!

Also the best thing about her is that smug, disgusted face. It's amazing how she looks like she's going "gross." after you standing irrumate her and pull out. Also how she looks like she's rolling her eyes and going "whatever dude" when I come home from work. If your fantasy is to have a live-in dime hooker who doesn't give a shit about you, she's a 10/10. Mine is, which is why I bought her.
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>>22056822
>We discuss onaholes, dolls, and every thing else we stick our junk into because using just your hand is for peasants.
Wait you discuss sex dolls now? For awhile i thought it was just onaholes and other stuff.
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>>22064007
>>22064110

TPE dolls require periodic mineral oil rubdowns to keep the material supple and to reduce tears and cracking. some people also use petroleum jelly(vaseline) in high stretch areas, but it can be overdone as well and induce a material breakdown.
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>>22064788
Please recreate some scenes from Iyapan. I bet she would be perfect.
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>>22065080
>Iyapan
Jesus christ how did I not know about this?!
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>>22064938
It's a slippery slope, leave while you can.
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>>22064938
>>22065278
Either that or stay for recommendations on which sex doll to buy.
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I'm considering getting a doll and have been scouting the market for the last couple of days.
Does anyone have any experience with the Piper Doll Akira? And what european supplier can be recommended?
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Well, nothing up until now had stained so I was getting careless. It looks a lot worse in person.
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I want to buy a doll but only when I'm horny, the desire keeps coming back though, then I realise I just want something cuddly so maybe body pillow is the reasonable choice here
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>>22065994
>but only when I'm horny

>so maybe body pillow is the reasonable choice here
yes
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>>22065994
Body pillows feel especially nice when it is cold as you can cuddle with it and have it retain heat, makes it tougher to want to get out of bed. Daki designs are a bonus.
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>>22064007
>>22064110
Corn starch after every use, mineral oil occasionally but definitely not as often as corn starch/baby powder
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>>22063779
First time I'm hearing about Hot Spring Lusty Slut but Lusty Slut is good
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>>22065013
onaholes doesnt need that?
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>>22066389
Typically they don't. If they are old/dried out then the mineral oil can help replenish the TPE
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>>22065994
Nui doll might be something you'd be interested in. It's comparatively inexpensive, nice to cuddle if you want something that's shaped like a person, and you can stick an onahole in it to fuck.
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>>22066144
isnt there pillow general? if not can they join us?
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How do you simulate kissing?
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like this
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>>22066645
no, like this
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so the natural progression is
hands > ona > hip > torso > doll
does it swing back around and go
doll > real human girlfriend ?
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>>22066853
>tfw I skipped hip and torso
>just went straight from my second onahole to a doll
Also after doll the next step is doll harem
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>>22059470
Did he smash
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>>22066409
Too bad Queencat is kill, doesn't seem to be anywhere else readily available. I was thinking about just a plain pillow and the good ones are still $150+.

Even though its Tomax, I doubt ToyDemon will stock it as a reasonable alternative to their $250 version.
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>>22066907
Otona-Sekai stocks Nui dolls. They don't really sell other Tomax stuff, but that's where I got mine from.
That plus stuffing is a lot cheaper than a pillow (though it does take a bit more work).
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>>22066853
I went human > doll > human > doll
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>>22066853
>real gf

you mean gfe whores.
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>>22066907
what about his thing some anon recommended
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011U1LIK8/
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>>22067064
I recommended that one with the 'peach skin' cover. My wife loves it, I don't use it. She's the weeb, not me.
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>>22061908
Update on this:

I contacted ToyDemon about the rockets and they said they were getting them in a few at a time. Mine actually just shipped today. I highly suggest you order these now if you want them. They will likely sell out fast.
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>>22067191
just put in a order for one too..
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>>22067191
I want to get this set of tits but I have commitment to get my waifu whos coming out eventually™. F.
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>>22067155
Do I need cover? I would use it more for cuddling that fap
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>>22067396
>Do I need cover?
Cover or case yes. I don't think it came with one.
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>>22067396
those body pillows are the best!! I have the plush doll and it's one of the best cuddling dolls when it comes to firmness. Don't have the nui doll but seems like they never can be stuffed smoothly from pictures online.
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>>22067442
well its not completely naked only without anime cover like an ordinary pillow case right?
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>>22067550
Look at the pictures anon... Like I said, I don't think it came with a case. You can order it and find out I guess, and if it doesn't have one then just order the one that it recommends in the 'buy together' link underneath it.
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>>22067396
It will eventually get dirty with sweat/dead skin cells. You want a cover to remove and wash easily.
An anime one has the bonus to let you cuddle with your waifu.
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>>22062840
>>22064574
100% likely if it's Scandinavia. And for good reasons.
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>>22056822
So when do we get a Launch doll? or Cheelai?
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>>22067738
Jesus Christ what a bunch of retards. Also
>includes text
Nabokov's Lolita is now illegal in Norway? Hello Middle Ages.
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My "model kit" from Japan arrived today.
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>>22068236
Where did you buy from? I've seen proxies/forwarders explicitly forbidding lubricants recently.
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>>22068579
Just Otonajp shipped through DHL.
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>>22067805
>Launch
"Who?" -Toriyama
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>>22067738
Good reasons? What actual harm would a glorified and expensive onahole actually do? If a guy previously convicted on diddling gets a doll like that, sure it's uncomfortable, but if he then sticks to the doll, isn't that an improvement?

God, and I thought Sweden was supposed to be the retarded and cucked country in this region.
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Anyone buy from HGDoll? Any idea roughly how long it takes to receive your doll after payment?
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>>22069036
Yes, they are good. I think it was a week and a half total, can't quite remember. They shipped fed-ex 5 buisness day. You could just send them an email asking for the lead time of the specific doll you want and your country, their support is good.
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bros onaholes are getting boring for me
are there any decent releases this year? i plan to get a few on the upcoming black friday sale
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>>22069036
I used HGdoll for my catdoll, got it around 2 weeks after paying through aliexpress
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>>22069287
>>22069233
shit... I thought it would take much longer than that. I might be out of town when the doll arrives...
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mfw Wednesday order that started out as "scheduled delivery for Friday by end of day" became on Thursday "scheduled delivery for Wednesday by end of day" angery.jpg

>>22060834
I do like my Gurun Gurun Fantasy DX, though perhaps not surprisingly it is pretty expensive for a parody hole and not the usual sub-$20 cash-in.

>>22063779
Aww fuck I want this. Lusty Slut is fantastic.
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>>22067805
The real question should be, when will we get Lum?
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>>22069287
>Aliexpress
I use that site as well. HGDoll is definitely number one thanks to the addition of Android 18. Definitely useful and it seems like the Japanese are vendors on the site as well.
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>>22066853
The natural progression was Onahole then Doll. There is some cool male masterbators on the market for men nowadays who may not prefer onaholes. I think they also go by the name of Piston Suction Cups. Its weird because these are more recent that came out only this year
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>>22067011
Truth. Females nowadays do not have any skills like they use to. Can no longer cook or clean and think by being beautiful that is all they need to be for resources. Sex Dolls are dramatically better than any woman i have ever slept with.
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>>22070821
>being beautiful

only few. rest if filters and makeup who think they are sex symbols because of thirsty men giving them likes
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>>22067631
>waifu

yeah privacy issues, do they make something sfw or is market dominated by waifus?
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>>22067944
>>22069026
I am the anon that posted this. This ruling came this week! It's brand-new as the case went up to the highest court after getting appealed by lawyers. That means the law stands in Norway - any sexual depiction of minors be it 3D, text, film, it's all illegal. And don't think it's only Norway, Scandinavia and multiple countries have old laws which can be interpreted this way.

What I meant is that the reason it got banned for good reasons is that essentially the people that order this is not you guys, which I expect to not be going for real children, but people who are actual abusers. If you ask me this should be legal, I agree with you better they do this than go attack some real person, but people disagree saying it's going to enable them by having them want more and therefore they will keep them from them at all costs.

If you order a plastic pussy online or watch your hentai nobody is going to give a shit about this law, it's only going to be used for things Iike this. See pic related. Also, remember that manga translator that was fined in Sweden ten years ago for having images depicting children. The only reason he got fucked was because his ex-wife reported him for that after they got divorced over something, so she went full revenge mode, in the end he got a discount by the court for his profession and paid only some small fees. If nobody had reported him nobody would care, and as you see if you show old enforcement people very sexualized minors in a manga they will react rather negatively to it.

End of my novel holy shit next time I'm not writing 10000 words
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Anon who wanted Lazuli pics, I've got good news and bad news.
Good news is I started photoshooting her
Bad news is I got a boner and fucked her
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>>22071851
I got the nude and swimsuit photos pretty well done, so if I don't manage to continue I'll post them before going to bed.
I wanted to get a fugging perspective photo too, but I was too into it so I had to take one afterwards
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I bought my first onahole a few days ago and it's great. I was wondering should I go for another onahole when this one outlived its lifespan or upgrade to a hip/oppai
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>>22071116
>If you order a plastic pussy online or watch your hentai nobody is going to give a shit about this law, it's only going to be used for things Iike this. See pic related. Also, remember that manga translator that was fined in Sweden ten years ago for having images depicting children. The only reason he got fucked was because his ex-wife reported him for that after they got divorced over something, so she went full revenge mode, in the end he got a discount by the court for his profession and paid only some small fees. If nobody had reported him nobody would care, and as you see if you show old enforcement people very sexualized minors in a manga they will react rather negatively to it.

The main issue with the older people is their misunderstanding of porn and the propaganda they have been bombarded with. Basically that females are angelic beings, do nothing wrong and that because of how badly they were treated you should do everything you can to write wrongs in order to appeal to their feels. And females let's be honest hate competition. Men will always like younger and prettier females, not ones that went out with a bunch of men and cheated etc. They will always disguise underneath everything as moralism and to "protect the children" when honestly teenage females like older men. Not saying that laws are bad by nature, but laws can be interpreted and bent to another's will especially with the culture and teachings through school to subvert society at large.

Difference being in my viewpoint is that most men nowadays are single and need Sex dolls, Onaholes, and VR porn because 80% of females are just chasing after older men or men that will eventually have sex and dump her ruining her pair bonding ability(80/20 rule). Its actually a real thing. Most men that are teenagers and in their 20's nowadays have had less sex, while females in that age range have had more and want to shame men for considering alternative options for being sexless because these females did not choose them and want them only when they have had their fun and want to settle down now. Instead of settling younger and being happy with what they have.
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>>22070965
Absolutely thousands of thirsty men, these females make a killing ton of money by desperate men younger who are wanting to have sex with any girl and think giving her money will make her love them when reality it just makes things worse. You can tell a lot of these females are 6's and 7's maybe even slightly worse without the makeup on and its funny when somebody made that app to show how badly females look without their makeup on. But because attention is like currency to them they think they deserve chad or a better guy. This is kind of why i hope there is more promotion of Sex Dolls, VR Porn(Koikatsu, Honey selected unlimited), Onaholes, Male Masterbators etc. To hopefully ween all these desperate men to put their money towards something that will give them love and will make them at least feel whole while at the same time propelling the future of Sex Dolls that are robotic to exist sooner. Maybe by doing this it will help make men realize that Females offer nothing nowadays beyond their looks, and make females work harder to try and get men instead of relying on their looks and getting everything so easy. Sure some may not like sex dolls but they may like VR porn or vice-a-versa. Also once men pay a lot into something this means it will be harder for laws to be for females as these giant sex doll and VR corps can hire lawyers to defend them etc.
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>>22072292
>>22072250
I dont think waifu bots can survive its not about corpos but about women vote, women voters are easiest group to influence
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Alright, here are some more Lazuli pics and a bit of info. I can't remember what else I wanted to write, I had to pause to fuck her again after taking the rest of the photos.
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>>22073709
>just needs a Reimu cosplay
Bro.
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>>22073889
What? I'd buy her a Reimu costume right now if they didn't cost like 4 times as much as the Shimakaze did.
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>>22072874
I don't think dolls will get good in my lifetime, but the money has always been more important than the vote. I can only imagine that the black market for realistic sex androids would be a thousand times more amazing than any normal webstore.
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Should I?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000118464175.html
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how often do you fap?
I found out once ever 3 days is great and much stronger
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>>22074343
Usually just on the weekends.
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>>22073709
Nice
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>>22073709
Three stripes of Adidas really makes for a big difference. Now you just need to play some Russian music and imagine a gopnik that just wants your money and tells you to turn your head because she doesn't want to look at your terrible face.

>>22074274
No

Should I get the lusty slut or lusty hot spring slut? They got good reviews. My dong is big so I don't want it to be too tiny.
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>>22073709
>https://imgur.com/a/WllyyBs
from what you describe it looks like i'd be better off buying a cheap knockoff doll at $450 and then pay the $150 for the lazuli head.
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>>22074274
are those $100 ? then probably no.

>>22074464
ooo, no, he should glue a smartphone to her hand so she can be texting other johns while you fuck her
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>>22073709
>Fingers fucked
>Eyelashes fucked
>Cheap eyes
>Seams on neck fucked
>No tongue action
>Paying 1.3k for this
That is just bad. I would rather pay 700$ for a decent one than that.
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>>22072874
I believe they will. If advertised correctly it will basically be an assistant and some men could mod them.
>>22074088
I disagree. Smart phones had crazy advancements especially the internet. Having a robot carry items, make food and perform basic functions will more than likely happen 10-15 years from now. Maybe even less depending on how much money is in it. But I do think you are right on this being a black market so females do not freak out.
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>>22069240
Maybe you need to spice up your fap life in a different way. Try a new fetish or work on your imagination. Or plug your butt instead.
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>>22074987
doll makers, from what i've seen, are ignoring the weeb market. the weeb market that spends fucking thousands of dollars annually on vinyl figures and even funko pops.

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>>22075426
i meant 6 inch vinyl figures.

we should really start a weeb sexdoll company. make some bank. high quality wigs, maybe some cheap ass servos for eye tracking.

you know how much a doll that looks into your eyes would cost? like $10 for the tech, but that adds so much value to the doll.
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hey is this shit fucking mold? i noticed it while i was cleaning my ona last night. if it is mold i have no idea how this shit could have developed, i've only had this a month and i've cleaned it within 10-20min of using it every time. fucking bullshit
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>>22075447
mold is all around and, if you had it in house you might as well burn it down, only needs small amount of humidity to pop up immediately as it stays in air
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>>22056919
Does customs hold onaholes?
I want to order one but God forbid I but one and then a tax collector tell my parents that they're son brought a pussy made of silicon and tried to evade partying taxes on it.
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>>22075459
i dried this shit religiously tho
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>>22075426
>>22075432
It's probably because they think they have to do the eyes huge and not just realistic with intentional design to mimic a known character.
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>>22073709
I bet she's pissed that you are whoring out her revealing photos to your geeky disgusting otaku friends online.
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>>22073709
>https://i.imgur.com/9jeXa4d.jpg
>pulled to the side
fucking DIAMONDS.
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Did OtonaJP jack up the prices for shipping? It's been 2 years since I ordered from there.
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>>22075717
Don't buy from them.
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>>22075462
Depends on country. I heard in Germany you have to open your package in front of the customs officers. WTF
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>>22071116
>in the end he got a discount by the court for his profession and paid only some small fees
Which was still complete bullshit, the man was guilty of no crime.
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>>22075729
Where Should I buy if I live in Finland? I checked the guide but the websites here in Europe are fucking jews.
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>>22075836
I order from Amazon.co.jp. It's typically the cheapest and takes care of custom shit so you don't have to go through the hassle, with shipping prices below what other Japan-based sites want.
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>>22075426
You could just ask for customs from HGDoll and have them make you an anime like character like they did for Android 18 and that kitty girl. I highly doubt they will go through the whole armor thing.
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>>22075447
Did you try to use Baby Powder and wash the dolls mouth out?
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>>22076492
nope on the powder, i washed it out with handsoap and water after every use though...
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>>22076500
so you can't dry it properly?
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>>22076515
huh ?
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That's way too close to the entrance to not naturally dry on its own. At any rate, who the fuck knows what it is. Does it wash off? Does it smell? Does it feel funny? Nobody else can tell you what to do about it.

>>22069572
mfw it then shows up today after all

>>22072292
I don't think it'll help. At the end of the day, you'll still know it's all fake, nobody actually loves and desires you. Men will still unfairly line the coffers of those women seeking the real thing. Functional sexbots will just be a cheaper (and possibly less exploitative) means to fake intimacy, and get off, for the men who have given up but aren't willing to end it.

>>22074464
Lusty Hot Spring so you can report back and tell us how good it is, or both because I don't know how useful your opinion would be without also being familiar with Lusty Slut. Lusty Slut is a great experience: hard, tight, and a great cervix.
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>>22075462
Not in America
>>22076020
Amazon.co.jp and amazon.com have the best prices, best shipping times, lowest shipping costs, but a shitty selection.
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>>22076975
Japanese Amazon has a great selection though?
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>>22076975
>a shitty selection
.jp has almost everything. USA amazon has a lot of stuff, but the translations aren't that great. Find a 'storefront' that has a popular ona and then check their store. They usually have a lot more that are not named anything close to what they really are.
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>>22075447
i cut it open and the black spots seemed to be in the plastic istelf... i dont think mold would do that, it would just be growing on the outer layer right? idk. gonna see if it grows anymore but think it was just some dirt staining it or a manufactering defect i didnt notice at first
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>>22077066
Hit it with peroxide or alcohol. Move/stretch the ona while doing this. Move/stretch while rinsing.
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>>22077079
i poured some peroxide on the spots but it didnt' bubble or anything like what i've seen with mold and peroxide before
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>>22077083
Sounds like it's dirt then.
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>>22077084
wish my cock luck
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>>22077089
Think of it like exfoliating your dead skin.
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What would actually happen if mold got on your dick?
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>>22077103
It would smell and itch. Clean it with >>22077079 and let it dry.
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>>22068579
>I've seen proxies/forwarders explicitly forbidding lubricants recently
I got Blackship to send me a lot of stuff a month ago and had 0 problems with lubricants
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Gonna use a loli hole for the first time in like 2 months
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>>22077066
mold can and will seep into TPE/silicone/whatever cyberskin is as well as most other ona materials. the only way to get rid of it once its attached to the material like that is to cut it out.
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>>22077253
it just showed up one day doe... idk breh. so weird. and id think like, it would be on the outside first before seeping inside? it wass like completely inside... i did cut it out tho.
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>>22077259
it will typically be on the inside first, since thats where the higher humidity would be.

i had a 20lbs of pussy and ass years ago that had shitty seal jobs so a tiny bit of water got into the internal foam before i caught and sealed it. i ended up using it as an experiment and watched the mold slowly spread through the material to the outside layers.
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>>22077276
wtf... it didn't react with peroxide tho : ((( i JUST FUCKINBG BOUGTH THIS SHIT
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>>22077285
if you cut it out you should be fine, just keep an eye on it and make sure to dry the fuck outta the hole. moisture is a slow and insidious killer
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>>22063779
bought this few weeks ago. stimulation is strong and I can only last a short time.
but this is also the first onahole I have other than tenga so I can't compare it to others and maybe as my first, this onahole too strong for me. not that I dislike it.
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Heaven, absolute bliss
I'd forgotten how fucking GOOD a quality onahole feels because I've been using my Maccos shit to feel like I got my money's worth
Cumming is like an afterthought because fucking the ona itself just feels so good
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>>22077355
The image is really important for this post and I don't care that I missed it the first time
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>>22074572
>a cheap knockoff doll at $450 and then pay the $150 for the lazuli head.
Around here the head is more like 500, but yeah. I don't have a cheap knockoff to compare to, but the head is where all of the charm is. Unless the cheap bodies are absolute shit, provided the windings match, this would be a good move.
>>22074936
>pay 700$ for a decent one
If you can get something you want more for 700 bucks, you should definitely do it instead. For me she was both absolutely my fetish and also the cheapest attractive model available from a reputable source.

>>22074464
>a gopnik that just wants your money and tells you to turn your head because she doesn't want to look at your terrible face.
>>22074575
>glue a smartphone to her hand so she can be texting other johns while you fuck her
Literally this. If this is your fetish, get a Lazuli. If not, don't bother.

>>22075623
>fucking DIAMONDS
Same. This is where I had to pause to fuck her.
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>>22065743
Bump
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>>22077507
No experience, but the factory photos looks exactly like the ones for my Lazuli. The price point isn't very different either. I'd imagine the body is pretty similar to >>22073709
I got mine from Dollstudio. It worked out without any issues, the customs were handled on entry to the EU.
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Your dick is not worth the ~$30-40 it costs to replace a moldy onahole.

Surely I'm not the only one with longterm pain/infection from dicking an unclean toy. I wouldn't ever risk it.
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>>22077305
what about storing it with dry cloth that you swap periodically? I also need foolproff drying method and no I dont want that rock thing
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>>22077620
Honestly this is true.
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>>22077620
depends on your income and where you live. but at least if I get something I wont be paying anything to treat it
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>>22077723
my house humidity is typically around 50-60%, i use a paper towel to seep out all the moisture until its bone dry, then store powdered in a container that is also lined with a large towel(mostly just to prevent the onas from sticking to the container). if i wanted additional dryness, i would have some silicone desiccant in the container(you can get a big one meant for this sort of thing for like 5$)
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>>22078026
get those ona dry sticks
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>>22078026
I want to store them in drawer which will have this in it
I live in old flat that has dampness problems
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so it is true, they really got lawyered by KY
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>>22077723
Here is what I do and it's rather simple. I did it incorrectly a few times, but some anons helped me in the right path, so might as well sit he same and guide others.

1. Clean it's inside however you like with water , cold or warm idgaf as long as you get your liquids out. This is the easiest step.
2. I add some mild soap only to the inside of the hole (don't soap the outside), in my case water based and very mild to it with a spray and use my middle finger to spread it well around the whole inside. Use warm water before adding soap just for the washing dishes effect.
3. Rinse with water. Again temperature is not a big deal. Now it should be clean.
4. Once done I use a scissor-cut microfiber cloth (one with lots of small nubs) that fits the hole perfectly and the chopstick method to push it to the very bottom by pressing it down with the chopstick. Let it soak some minutes. If the hole is very much full of shapes then I do it again with another cloth and again wait. Once done I use my washed and dry hand to quickly confirm there is no moisture inside and move to next step. If you wonder how I got the cloth it was part of the set to wash my car or something. It says it's for all-purpose and it's gigantic. You can wash them on 60 degrees so I do that too that too when I do my bedding occasionally.
5. Gently add corn starch to its outsides, I use a powder makeup brush I borrowed from a friend that left too much of her makeup stuff at my place. Just buy the cheapest you can find at a store, the biggest ones. I know we males don't really buy this stuff but some guys wear makeup and it could be you are buying for your gf so nobody gives 2 cents about you buying it. The layer should be thin and just like factory applied it when you got it, yes the factories do this , and what would you know how your toy looks brand new ?
6. Put it in a cloth bag and in an environment with contact to the outside air. If you don't have that just wrap it in and old cotton t-shirt you don't use that's clean or something.
For reference my place right now is 43% RH (humidity) , and 24 degrees Celsius.
Some mistakes I have made in the past:
- added corn starch Inside the hole : the hole became very weird
- added soap to outside of the hole: the hole started to leak lots of oils, and it became very sticky.
- added too much corn starch: clogged my whole fucking sink after washing it off , but some strong chemicals cleared it up.

Overall I feel so dumb from the mistakes and it cost me two holes that had a shorter life than uaual.
Protip from me is get the virgin loop or some hole that's durable and has a straight canal then you will have to do the chopstick only once and it will be completely dry instantly. You can also flip it around but I don't do that stuff.
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>>22078121
Forgot to say you can just pay the outside of the hole with microfiber, I use cut microfiber for the chopstick inside and a regular microfiber to the outside. This way you get no rifts and such as paper would createm buying microfiber is rather cheap, just get it.
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>>22078144
Pat the outside of the hole. My writing is garbage. If you don't get what I mean just wrap it around the hole and slowly use your hands to knead it to the skin sipping the moisture off it. Dry all your microfibers afterwards, but that is relatively easy to do.

Yes, this sounds like a whole job. And yes, it helps me regulate how much I use them just from the work afterwards.
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>>22078121
>>22078144
so you stuff the onahole with cut up cloth to the brim like an turkey on thanksgivings?
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>>22078168
Yea, the original shape wouldn't fit. I cut it so it is enough to soak up all the water. Works great. I think about the height of the onahole and it's width should be a good start if you want to try. You should wash the cloth before use in case it starts to lose strings
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>>22078189
oh you mentioned you have that car cloth. I thought you meant cutting up normal cleaning cloth into even smaller pieces and filling ona with it
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>>22066970
t. wax museum owner
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>>22073709
If you are still here, how would you recommend that doll for dressing her upb as certain characters? Also what do you think about a taller version? At least 145 or even 160cm? Things happened and I might be able to get a doll, and Lazuli is the #1 on my list since it came out.
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>>22077858
>depends on your-
No.
It never depends. You could be a millionaire and it would still not be worth it.
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>>22073709
Honestly, the eyes aren't bad, but most other things about her is just subtly off and offputting.
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I dry-fapped for around 30 years. Had to deal with nasty blisters and whatnot. When I finally discovered Fleshlights, it was better, but not perfect. Then I upgraded to onaholes. Now I can't go back.

Pic related is what I use. Had to mod it for a better texture though. The thing is solid and easy to clean and it's the best feeling ever.
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>>22079054
what mod?
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>>22078026
Sauce on the big purple one again, friend? Looks bigger than a Venus Real
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>>22079062
This onahole is made of thick and hard silicon. It can be turn inside out for easy cleaning with no damage. But the feeling was not right for me. So I simply turn the thing inside out, then I cut off bits of material randomly here and there with scissors. Now, the thing is PERFECT!
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>>22079160
why bother with it if you need to cut it up then
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I picked up an onahole but it's scraping the area below my head raw. Any suggestions on hole that will put less wear and tear on the penis?
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>>22079236
isnt that frenulum too tight?
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>>22079236
What kind of onahole?
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>>22079344

It's actually getting me on the sides.

>>22079351

Tenga Flip Zero White
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I see some onaholes on sites here and there, but all the ones I can find are only 15cm or something, that's too goddamn shallow, I'd poke out the other end going balls deep.
Are there any ones with some more depth, and with an innie look kinda like this: https://i.imgur.com/BRFzqel.png ?
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>>22079367
Tenga tends to be on the harder side of holes.

Most onaholes are colorcoded in terms of firmness. Most thngs clear (like what you have) can be attributed to a "hard" texture, so you may not even be using enough lube or the lube you're using might be too thin.

Most pink onaholes are on the soft side of things, but some are tight while others are "loose" The majority of onaholes are this.

Then the white/cream colored holes are very soft, like water balloon soft. Typically not recommended to buy as a first time. You start off with pink and either go up or down from there.

There are dual layered holes with a soft exterior and a harder interior to give a tighter experience, so keep that in mind.

Check out ToysHearts products on ToyDemon (if you're American/Canadian), MotsuToys (if you're European), or even AmazonJP if they ship to you and make sure you keep your measurements in mind so you don;t order something thats way too small. I've heard good things about Lusty Slut so you could check that out and see if that tickles your fancy.
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>>22079420
Your best bet is the R-20, Fuwa Pocha Torori-Na,
or... this thing: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07X4K7S72/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&language=ja_JP&linkCode=sl1&linkId=f897dbd7dd21d22adc7ce4eaa543d871&redirect=true&tag=onahodouga-22

None of them have an innie tho.
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>>22079194
Because my dick cannot teleport itself to Japan in order to try it out first before buying you dumb-ass.
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>>22079456
damn. I want clear one but hate hard holes.
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>>22079486
what about getting a better suited hole
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>>22079456
Actually the stuff I was using was pretty thin. I think I'll hold on to this for now and try something else. I am looking at them now and a lot of the openings look kind of small, should that be a concern with these? The Tenga isn't the easiest thing to get into and I think that might have been part of the problem.
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>>22079562
No need. Because with the mod, it's HEAVEN and it's nearly unbreakable.

Once the onahole become too "rotten" to use, I'll buy the same model again and mod it the same way. That is, if it's still available.
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>>22079482
That length is good, but I'd really prefer an innie over anything else. Also do they all have those weird bumps inside them? Never seen a vagoo that looks like that.

>Fuwa Pocha Torori-Na
That thing looks outright disgusting, like the uncanny valley of pussies, I don't think I could stay hard with it. Also what's with the sculpting on the inside? Is it a H.R Giger pussy?
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>>22079486
I haven't heard of shops in Japan (or everywhere else) where you can try an ona before buying. But thanks for the laugh.
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>>22079574
>Is it a H.R Giger pussy?
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>>22079574
>but I'd really prefer an innie over anything else
Well your only choice for that is the Lolinco Virgo, but if you said that 15cm is too shallow for your magnum dong, then I doubt an extra centimeter would do anything.
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>>22079574
That's relatively tame for onaholes though. I've seen much "worse" internal designs.
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>>22079456
>>22079568

Also do you have any specific recommendations? There are a shit load of these and it's going to take ages to make sense out of them.
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>>22079630
Goddammit. Am I just gonna have to buy two, cut them apart, and like "weld" them together or something? I'll never get rid of the seam which no doubt would chafe my cock.

>>22079675
I notice.
https://www.toydemon.com/lust-gimmick
Like why is this thing so disgusting looking inside? I've seen bitches spread wide open, NONE of them have looked anything like this.
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>>22079687
Bitches also don't have to rely on mechanical stimulation to get you off, the whole real human being next to you is enough to drive you over the edge, while a hunk of plastic has one thing, the actual friction it inflicts on your dick.
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>>22079698
>Bitches also don't have to rely on mechanical stimulation to get you off
My imagination can assist with that. My imagination can not deal with pussy looking like a level from Contra.
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>>22079593
Are you being an idiot on purpose?
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>>22079712
>he doesn't want to fuck a pussy straight out of Contra
Are you a sissy? I bet you also wear a skirt, you faggy caricature of a MAN.
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>>22079712
Not like youre going to be looking at the insides while fucking it anyway
If the insides are really such a turn off for you, why not go get a fleshlight. The insides of fleshlights are pretty basic
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>>22079738
What's the difference between a fleshlight and an onahole?
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>>22079574
He needs to see WORMS pussy
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>>22079746
tpe recipe and sizes? also onas are much wilder in textures
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>>22079760
the what
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>>22079778
What's TPE? I'm *completely* new on this subject, contrary to what my posts may suggest.
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>>22079676
In terms of ToysHearts :
Seventeen Bordeaux (although I've heard it has seperation issues due to it being dual layered)
Lusty Slut
Virgin Age Graduation

You could always look at TOMAX products. You can't go wrong with any of them, but since the manufactures are Jews, they're only sold through specific online retailers (ToyDemon & MotsuToys) and they're sold out a lot of the time. You'll want to start off with "Soft" texture if you decide to get any of them.
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>>22079712
Fuck you dude, Contra is awesome.
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>>22078600
i hate moe anime big ass head syndrome.
so many great artists and they get these cheap boxarts
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>>22079844
It is, but I could never have sex with Contra.
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>>22079817
you are forgetting years of darkness when we could not get tomax at all.

>>22079779
Thermoplastic elastomer, the stuff those toys are made off
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>>22080016
Different anon here
Funnily enough, my order for that just came in yesterday. Haven't gotten a chance to try it out. I got it for the novelty of fucking a drill-tail.
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so if i get a hanidoll i am a rapist pedo even though i am harmless and no criminal record? But people can murder thousands of people in video games? And my country lets cannibals go because they are assessed to be harmless and give out free heroin needles, and doll can't consent so if i got a 170cm one it would make me want to go rape real women too. I work hard for my money and they waste resources policing sex dolls while hundreds of indigenous women are missing because according to some psychologists and lawyers who aren't as smart as they think said so and people who take tax dollars decided the icky doll needs to be banned. I am guilty until proven innocent so they can steal shit i work hard for while the government gives people heroin needles. Even if it is labelled anime, and smaller dolls are more feasible, but i am a monster despite being harmless nicest most self controlling person i know. I am actually worse than murderers because a doll can't consent but a dog can. Fuck this shithole maple leaf fuck fest country.
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>>22080187
>And my country
Didn't even have to read the rest.
The answer is Yes.
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>>22080201
You should become a politician so you can waste the nations resources making up rules for dolls while actual rapists and pedos walk free.
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Thoughts on "Real Body 3D Bone System Sex Doll Tsupeta Hina Moegi"
10KG and supposedly nearly 1:1 scale.
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>>22077355
What are the brands you are comparing and which one is shit/good?
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>>22079138
Probably a Muses, also from Tomax.
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>>22079420
Zemalia Gina
Maccos Full Swing
Lolinco Vergo
The EXE DX or Shequ Maki if you want a hip
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>>22079573
Document the mod please. Interested in the hole and what you did to it. I like modding boring holes too.
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>>22078711
The 135 cm model is not very good for cosplay. The swimsuit fits well, but the S cosplay is way too big in certain places. The bigger moderls ought to be better for that. If you can get and afford one, and you're into the aesthetic, I'd recommend getting one. I'd prefer the 160cm modest bust version, but I don't know if I'd prefer her enough to pay extra. In any case that model is not available at my vendor.

The build quality is not a problem for me, but I don't know if she's overpriced or not. I haven't seen other dolls at the same prince range, so I've got nothing to compare to. There was a video of a better eye construction, but that was from a high-end manufacturer, and apparently the shitty fingers are universal.
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>>22079687
WTF do you care what they look like on the inside? You're not cutting them up and analyzing them like a faggot, you're fucking them.
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>>22079794
>What's TPE?
It's basically a different version of silicon that uses a lot of mineral oil most of the time.
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>>22080458
Thank you for your answers.
I had the feeling that anything related to actual human activities like dressup would be better with a bigger sized doll. I'd rather pay somewhat more because I don't know when will I able to afford another one, so I can't go wrong with the first.
Can the eyes be fixed, I mean can you glue back the eyelashes in a way that they stay on, and generally can the face withstand general use? You mentioned facefucking, so do you think the doll will last if you kept doing that?
It might be a stupid question, but the wig is built in, and not a normal wig right? Is it a good idea to get the model with the shortest hair possible if I want to use other wigs on her?

Also, to anyone here, is there reference or info on catdoll's custom heads? I mean what can they achieve, is it just make up, or actual custom sculpting?
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>>22080554
Email them. Their custom heads are the 'realistic' ones they sell, so you can get a good level of detail with them if you want. If you just want anime style and cat ears I don't think they'll have a lot of trouble doing that.
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>>22079794
Basic rundown:
Japanese masturbators are often called onaholes, which is what most people here have gotten into. Fleshlight is a western company making masturbators and has become a catch-all term for western toys for people who don't really know what they're talking about. Their tunnel designs tend to be simpler and more mechanical.
TPE/TPR is a type of rubber Japanese onaholes are often made of (as opposed to silicone often used by chinks etc.). It's softer and a bit frailer, but you can get more elaborate tunnel designs with it.
Most people don't like jerking off into a smooth, lifeless tunnel so masturbators have texture. The feeling of bumps and twists in the soft material is supposed to simulate feedback and rub against your dick pleasantly. You don't really look into it (well, maybe you're washing it) so a bizarre appearance on the inside is not something you should worry about: it's there so you can slide your dick across it, not even feeling all the individual details as much as the overall texture and maybe the way it guides you.
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>>22080635
Thanks, I'll try.
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>>22079138
muses arke yeah

not a huge fan myself, the uterus thing curves up way to sharp and small for me.
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Aliexpress use to sell vagina mould kits and years ago one summer I tried making one with my niece. You had to have a oven and a way to cool it with a plastic bag of ice water at certain times.

Ended up making two of them and they came out incredibly easy to tear. I think it may have worked better if a girls cunny was cavernous and I spent a longer time drying with a fan in between one of the processes. Unfortunately she went back home a few days later and school started back up and I doubt we will ever have a time again that we will get into the shit we did that one summer.
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>>22080554
cosplay outfits are really rough to find in smaller sizes for sure. the minimum size seems to be around 145-150cm for US XS or Asian S to get a decent selection of outfits, and even then they dont always fit right.

as far as the build quality, while a few mfg are finally starting to do articulated fingerbones, the fingerwire thing is still the most common. the rest of the build quality is typically pretty decent for that price range. few pay much detail to mouth holes, eyelashes dont adhere well on most, but thats more to not damage the material in the processs and the fact that light adhesive doesnt stick well to TPE. a tiny dab of superglue typically fixes those.

as far as the skeletons go, avoid goosenecks if you find one that still uses it, but most have gone away from that. some mfg can be stiffer than others and a few try to hide the bolts for standing feet(though a few fuck up those holes and tightness completely, looking at you z-one).

sculpt design is largely mfg based, and anything Mizuali does is pretty good typically, but most at the 1-3k teir have pretty solid designs and details.

inserts are usually shit on most dolls due to similar designs to the Lazuli above, where they have an outer detail built into the body, but then the hole is a shitty little tube that never fits right. DSdoll and 4woods are the few two i know of that actually go with a general outer lips on the body, and the full inner part on the hole, which works out pretty damn well, even if it looses out slightly on aesthetics. never had an issue with my DS style insert.
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>>22081441
>inserts are usually shit on most dolls
So which is better? The insert or the fixed vagina? Do you think a fixed one can be carved out and regular onas can be inserted if it gets fucked up so much? I mean it might take years, but still. I'm leaning towards a fixed one, due to better looking and taken care it should last a long time.
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Are there any dolls that incorporate wires through the skeleton to warm the entire doll up?
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>>22081441
>no cummies in her cunny
wasted
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>>22081475
i know a few people with TPE fixed models that have had them for over 3yrs at this point and the inside is still just fine. its the outside that has had to be repaired every so often.

and i would go with fixed unless you are looking at one of the better insert types. i have one of each at the moment and there isnt any real issue cleaning the fixed.

>>22081494
yes, but mostly just on silicone at the moment. TPE has this thing where it likes to melt at low temp, and heating wires have to get pretty warm to heat through the doll.
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>>22081511
Are there downsides to silicone? I'm new to this, I've only had a shitty ona to fug and a daki (with an electric blanket wrapped inside) to sleep with.
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>>22081505
its an "invite" pic, not an after pic, and this is a blue board.

you want creampies catch me in a /b/ thread.
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>>22081511
The more I know the more question I have. Can I get a Lazuli head and use it on a different body? Even on a silicone one? I know it would look bad.
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>>22081523
one of these days ill complete this and turn it into a copypasta too instead of having to retype every time.

TPE:
Pro
softer, cheaper, typically feels better for fucking(similar to onaholes) and is better if you like squishy tits.
Cons
a little more maintenance heavy and weights more at the same sizes. repairs can be more difficult.

Silicone:
Pros
more durable, better/higher body details(my new one has skin texture), almost no maintenance needed, lighter for its size when made by good mfg with layering, can simulate deeper muscle better(again with layering).
Cons
more expensive, much firmer typically and not friendly to people who like pillow tits, a bit less flexible than TPE which can make some positions more difficult(only in the most extreme cases).

>>22081535
technically you can, you may need an adapter but you could use the head on whatever body you like. The catch of course is that silicone and TPE destroy each other, so you need a barrier between them.
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>>22081577
Thanks for the info, but now I'm really torn on what should I get. I like the more durable and firm side of silicone, but I'd like to use the Lazuli head. Well, back to lurking again.
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>>22081603
its a tough choice for sure, but i would say just go with whatever body and head you end up liking and figure out the rest later. it took me 6-8months of active searching before i decided on mine, mostly cause none of them were really screaming at me until i saw one of the EX promo pics.
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>>22081577
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Definitely silicone for me, I guess that'll also allow me to look for heated models. Is there a specific term for that?
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>>22081641
the only ones with heat at the moment worth looking at are possibly gynoid, and realdoll.

nobody else is pushing on it right now, and z-one isnt worth your time.
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If I pick the hole based on how much I like the anime art, what are the chances I will like the hole itself?
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>>22081662
>nobody else is pushing on it right now
Sleeping with an exothermic daki has ruined me. Thanks for the info and the suggestions.
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>>22081665
Fairly low. The pastebin explains why, but it comes down to:
1. it might be too small or big
2. a fair number of companies use the strategy of packaging cheap shit holes that wouldn't sell otherwise with good or recognizable art
Of course, there are exceptions to those, but buying with your dick is rarely a good idea, even with things meant for it.
Odds are you aren't going to be fapping to the box art anyway.
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>>22081732
tell us more about that daki
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>>22081808
It's a Youmu daki. I've had it for a little over five years. A year ago, I ordered an electric blanket, and I wrapped it around the inner pillow, I turn it on ~20 minutes before going to bed and then I big spoon her tightly. It's amazing especially since my room is cold, there's nothing better than tightly hugging a very warm daki under some covers in the cold. Youmu isn't my waifu, I don't fug her, we just sleep together peacefully.
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What thick lube would you recommend? Onatsuyu drys out when I use my Lilith Uterus, as the suction takes all the lube to the uterus. I just found out the same doesn't happen if I use the thick lube that comes with the Meiki ZXY.
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>>22081928
I recall liking MagicEyes' lubes for thickness. Even the standard is pretty thick and the thick is like toothpaste.
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>>22081875
I feel like hugjob can better than best ona.
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>>22081976
I still long for a more humanoid shape, something with limbs and hair, but it has to be warm. The sex aspect is mostly a bonus.
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>>22081983
body heat warms up a doll pretty easily, ive never had an issue with mine feeling cold. not like body heat warm, but still not cold.
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>>22082017
I frequently set the daki to warmer than human temperature and use thinner covers, keeping equilibrium in the cold. I used to have thicker covers, and it would take a while to warm the daki with body heat, it just isn't the same.

I've thought about buying a cheap sex doll, cutting it open, wiring it myself, then resealing it. Just sounds like more trouble than buying one that's already meant to be warm, I mean it can't be that difficult. They already have skeletons so how much more could it be to throw in some heat wiring?
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>>22082044
did you miss the part where TPE tends to melt. as for the lack of them in silicone, i dunno, probably something to do with keeping the costs reasonable. pricier models tend to offer it after all.
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>>22082167
I don't mind paying more and I previously stated that I preferred silicone.
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Looking to get either the Chimera Hard or the Kunoichi Black Hard. Anyone here have experience with either give their thoughts? I'm open to other recommendations in the hard department too if anyone has any.
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How the hell do you last longer?
I do like 5 strokes and then have to stop otherwise I immediately nut.
I can fap with hole for like 30 minutes - hour or more but I have to stop every couple strokes.
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>>22082384
Man my first hole is getting here in like a day and im afraid of this happening
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>>22082316
Kunoichi hard is really (almost excessively) rough and difficult to recommend because of that. I ordered a Chimera Hard recently and am still waiting for it to arrive.

>>22082384
>>22082390
You can get something softer and gentler or just use the one you have until you're more used to it, but that's perfectly normal. Onaholes (and penetration in general) are different enough from hand masturbation that you can't really expect the same kind of endurance. The best way to last long is to pace yourself and not just pump constantly.
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>>22082384
Just nut and then go again.
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>>22082437
But do you really get more endurance when you use the hole more? I don't know how that would happen you know?
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>>22082445
It's mental. Try not looking at porn.
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>>22082449
I mean i might not even have the problem, will see when the ona comes in
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>>22082445
You learn to use the hole better and know what to expect. It is also up to the ona: softer onas can offer constant low stimulus without pushing you over the edge while trying to last for long with a hard one usually means giving it a few strokes, waiting long enough to recover, and repeating that until your dick is sore.
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>>22082437
I can get so sensitive I literally have to stop all movement. I started working out few months ago, according to some anons that was supposed to help but it didn't.
>>22082442
Can't do that. I usually lose any kind of interest in fapping for around 30 minutes.
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>>22082483
What hole are you using? Maybe something softer would be better for your need.
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>>22082437
I see, thanks for your thoughts. Guess I'm leaning more towards Chimera Hard now then. Let me know what you think of it in comparison to Kunoichi Hard (or anything else you've tried) when you get it if you don't mind. Thanks!
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>>22081422
the fuck, dude...
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>>22082497
At the moment I'm mainly using my spdx, I don't think it's very tight or hard compared to other stuff i have.
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>>22080277
sounds good but expensive. lol

who cares about a bone, i want the vagina to be good. why are the japanese focusing on bone structure???

seriously what the fuck are the japanese doing to the onahole market? nothing new, nothing interesting. same nubs, spirals, ribs, uterus. wheres the innovation???
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>>22082928
wheres the goddamn artificial vagina muscles to squeeze my cock like the $3500 semen extractor ?
https://sanwegroup.en.alibaba.com/product/538379418-200289434/SW_3701_Sperm_Collector.html
with heat, piston, etc.
WHERE IS THIS TECHNOLOGY IN AN ONA?
fuck you japan.
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>>22082965
btw put this sperm extractor into the pastebin. its important we keep track of this superior technology.
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>>22083078
>>22082965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldy4LOgvUCw
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>>22083084
i still dont get the 'amount of light' stuff. vaginas dont have light rays shooting out of them...

right anons? any femanon want to tell us how she can lower her panties and illuminate a room to find her keys in the dark?
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Is there a cheap usb warmer rod that you recommend?

I'm in Canada.
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>>22083115
Warmers break too quickly. Huge waste of money, especially a cheap one.
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Okay then.

Here's a dumb question that I'll ask anyway. Could you like microwave the lube you're about to use for like 3-5 seconds in a microwave to make it warm? If it's water based lube it should work right?
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>>22083165
Soak the container in hot water for a few minutes, don't microwave it.
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>>22083115
No. Cheap ones are cheap for a reason. Better pony up that money, leaf.
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>>22083354
I know fleshlight is shit and all but they do sell this warmer.

Maybe it's alright?
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How well do heating pads work for warming up onaholes? I don't want to drop $30 for nothing.
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>>22083510
They work, but make sure you don't take the cloth cover off the heater; it'll deform the onahole.
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>>22081422
>Aliexpress use to sell vagina mould kits
>I tried making one with my niece
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Do you have the other comic translated anon?
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Is there a reason to keep holes like the mouth of truth perorin in a bag instead of the little plastic case that they came with?
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>>22083775
No.
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>>22080554
>You mentioned facefucking, so do you think the doll will last if you kept doing that?
I think it will. I've had two mouths of truth rip at the edges, but she doesn't have edges. Without the obvious weak point, I think it will last. It doesn't feel as great as an MOT though.
>but the wig is built in, and not a normal wig right?
The wig is a normal wig. The doll is bald.
>can you glue back the eyelashes in a way that they stay on
The user guide recommends two different glue types for reattaching the eyelashes. I haven't tried it yet.
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Has anyone here ever sewn their plush doll or pillow or whatever? What thread did you use?
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>>22083927
Normal polyester thread for sewing machines.
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>anon why did you take home economics course?
>so i could learn to stitch myself a plush fuckdoll
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I'm trying to get into onaholes and have a few questions. Yes, I did check the pastebin.
1. Is there any particular water-based lube that's garbage, or should I be fine with anything in the pastebin.
2. How long does lube last? If I run out will my saliva be serviceable (I assume not, but may as well ask), or do I have to wait for more to arrive.
3. Last but not least, what's a good vaginal/mouth hole for someone making their first purchase. Length is between 6 and 6.5 inches and the price range is preferably below $50. (before lube and shipping)
Thanks for the help in advance, hopefully I'm not a retard who missed obvious answers to these in the pastebin.
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>>22080016
Seems like it's supposed to be a drillhair hairjob pussy.
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>>22084246
All lubes are different. Good idea to try different ones because it changes the way the onas feel. A bottle should last a while in most cases, but yes, you can also use saliva. The Zemalia Gina is a good starter ona because of the price point and durability. Also makes cleaning and concealing it very easy.
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>>22083413
go for it and let us know
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>>22080448
The Zemalia actually looks pretty damn good.
Don't love the flaps, but they don't look as weird and uncanny as on many other kinds.

>>22084249
Kinda looks like the pasta I cooked for my stroganoff the other day.
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>>22084246
>vaginal/mouth hole

you should try the most shilled chinese product
Zemalia/Ondo
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>>22083413
Thought that was a caltrop from the thumbnail.
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>>22083137
They all break, huh?
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>>22084253
>>22084268
Got it, thanks. Is US amazon full of fakes, or am I fine buying one from there?
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>>22084304
You want to buy it from Amazon, it's cheaper than on their site. Comes in the same packaging etc.
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>>22083890
Very useful, thank you very much.
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https://www.toydemon.com/big-hip-samanda
This thing looks really good. Expensive, but I might just spend that kind of money on something like this some day.

Are there any easy ways to warm these kinds of things, or is my best bet to just like, sit on it and apply my body heat?
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Am I the only on who doesn't get mold in the onahole despite leaving it for days with cum inside?
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>>22083413
Fleshlights really aren't that bad. They are overpriced though.
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>>22084797
All this shit is overpriced, but you get called a shill if you recommend a cheaper product that you can just buy on amazon for half the price of some weeb box art.
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Julia+, Seducing Witch or Kupa Lolinco Virgo, which one feels the best?
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>>22082965
There is this
www.amazon.com/dp/B07XD2FD8Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_R71FDbM5C2XC2
And some on AliExpress if you search Male Masterbators.
>>22083078
I do think it's a good idea to put this into a new category in the pastebin. It's called Male Masterbators but the nickname could be Sperm extractors.
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>>22084804
it's almost like you're paying for import fees.
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>>22084828
In most cases it's that, plus S&H, currency exchange fee, and +5% markup from MSRP to turn a profit.
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>>22081577
>more durable, better/higher body details(my new one has skin texture)
Does this mean it feels more like skin, or just looks more like skin than TPE?
>much firmer typically and not friendly to people who like pillow tits,
Does this mean its like plastic firm? Also i should ask with TPE is it possible to sleep on pillow tits? Is there a way to sleep with a Sex doll in a certain position? Also final question is there a difference with Cyberskin? Or is it another term for Silicone? Maybe better?
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>>22085102
Not that anon, but let me add that in some cases you can select loose joints for sleeping, that should mean that these dolls can be used for sleeping together but more info on those joints would be appreciated.
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>>22085102
cyberskin is a material term that was hot for the US made masturbators a while back. not sure if its still in use or it was just the precursor to TPE or something.

the better detailing is referring to things like skinbumps or contouring. its pure visual, not necessarily feel, which on the surface both can do.

firmer is only in comparison to TPE. id say silicone is pretty similar in firmness to a hard onahole, or maybe the succubus witch. not exactly super plasticy, but a lot firmer than something like a cocolo or a very soft ona.
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>month and counting when I cant use onaholes that are sitting in a box

I hate home renovations so much.
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>Order Lilith Uterus Soft from Omocha
>Order supposedly sent yesterday
>Tracking number doesn't work

These fucks haven't shipped it yet, have they?
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>>22086055
Could be stuck in Customs.
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>>22086055
If it's the weird german intermediary, that site is just pure shit.
In a few days they'll have transferred it to DHL and then it will be delivered to you.
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Just got the lilith uterus standard today. Fugged it twice. I use kyo/tyo lube, have to drop 2-3 drops of lube, not 1 like some reviews state. For the ona, i was kinda disappointed at first. I dont really feel the texture and i cant imagine using the soft version desu. But with more lube its more enjoyable, feels pretty good for longer sessions. The uterus is kinda a hassle to clean and you dont really feel it, would be better without it imo. All in all its a good hole for longer sessions, not too stimulating, its a bit tight, but maybe i have a fatter cock than i tought, not a problem with the right amount of lube.
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>>22086547
how do you clean uterus?
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>>22086317
What customs? I live in the EU.
>>22086341
That would explain it I suppose, my last order from them was from when I pre-ordered Dolphin. What was weird is that it transited in Germany with DHL but when it reached my country (France), they gave it to La Poste.
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>>22086582
Push my finger in and "absorb" moisture, i do this until its fully dry. The rest with microfiber towel on a pen.
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>>22086055
Omocha finally stocked Tomax? Was hoping with motsu being competitor they would adjust prices but its same 80 euros as motsu
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>>22087161
Yeah, I waited quite a bit for them to have stock again. I wanted to buy on Motsu at first (shipping fees are a bit lower and their site doesn't suck) but they lack a lot of the softness options.
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>>22087171
not only softness but also models. unfortunately I completely forgot about them and missed on soft dolphin
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