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Touhou music being plagiarized in 2019:
Looks like Shibayan isn't happy with what's happening
https://twitter.com/yaaaaaan/status/1170782850045530112?s=19

Pastebin by Anon in the last thread: http://rentry.co/rmwgo
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tl;dr, if you've always wanted to rake in profit for the least amount of effort, Shibayan is offering his entire library of free tracks to sample, which you can then splice with the dumbest new meme and then sell at spotify and whatever else you want.

The window is short. Take advantage of this great opportunity. A 17 year old can do it, you have no excuse.
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>>22036695
Looks like he isn't happy about westerners spamming his email.
Are those from the fags that keep insisting him to lynch the plagiarizer? Now "our" side is getting obnoxious as well.
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>>22036851
I don't even know why there's another thread made about this so soon when the tweets making it pretty clear he's tired of having to deal with foreigners, and if ZUN doesn't step in there's really no point to any of this. This is a thing you wait and see for something to happen but I guess some anons are too autistic to know that based on the last thread.
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He's annoyed by all the English emails he's been getting it looks like, I hope it's not /jp/sies bugging him. Take it easy and let ZUN handle this.
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Just forget it, all the Tik Tok zoomers will eventually get tired of it and move on. You guys treat like this is going to continuously repeat in the future, but I doubt it.
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Kusothread, as expected from a phoneposter.
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Deadman's twitter is gone.
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>>22036695
https://twitter.com/yaaaaaan/status/1162735429826650113
The deleted tweets were by deadman.
Shibayan allowed deadman to use his song.

He was annoyed by you guys’ spamming.
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The faggots blew it up.
Instead of trying to be modest in convincing him they harrased Shibayan because they're too buttblasted over some kid and now he's sided with the thief.
Now I feel bad because I didn't say anything when someone said he want to go full autism on the last thread, if they are even the same guy. If this is partly our doing then we have to live up as another group of retards in the community.
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>>22037036
We should side with Shibayan and support Deadman's doujin works.
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>>22037047
Even if I don't wanna, I won't go out of my way being a prick because it's in fact more personal than it is neccessary. In the end we didn't solve shit because someone went overboard.
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What do I sperg about now?
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>>22037132
same, awaiting orders for sperging
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>>22037132
We sperg about us sperging, so next time we'll be taking it easy.
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>>22037036
The only new developments in this are Shibayan saying that he's tired of replying to dumb gaijins (something that could either refer to anons spamming him, which is unlikely because there was only one person who dared to contact him in the entire last week-long threads, or to people in general in either side of this case) and deadman's twitter going poof (who knows if he deleted it himself or if his account was suspended). >>22036958 happened all the way back at the start of this whole drama so it doesn't say much at this point.
The only thing left to do now is waiting until ZUN says anything, something that's unlikely to happen.
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Doesn't help that when I went to the thief's discord to talk with them they called me "nigga" every five seconds to block out criticism
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>>22037560
Please don't harass a legitimate doujin creator. He has Shibayan's permission.

Also, please stop having dark skin.
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>>22037036
Imagine being triggered by a typical meme.
Basically, a video with good song + anime girl go viral and people care more about memes than about the original song.
Doesn’t it happen all the time? For example: Ievan Polkka aka leekspin song.
And it not even the first time for ShibayanRecords:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UpZnSjMko4
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>>22036695
Deadman is deleting his social media because of all the hate he's been getting. Fucking hilarious. Here's his discord in case you wanna give him a piece of your mind: discord.gg/8vEwg2U
And this is his username: deadman 死人#9391
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>>22037930
Except they involved legit foreign copyright holders this time. Some people can't let that slide.
Well what bothers me the most is that we might be partly responsible for harrassing Shibayan, or maybe not because it's just one-two people hellbent on lynching a kid while /jp/ already told them to calm down. I only supported the idea because I thought copyright issues indeed need to be solved, but I never thought "we" would attack Shibayan as well.
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>>22038496
Maybe if Shibayan did what he did best instead of doing dumb bossa nova crap he wouldn't be spammed by me
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>>22038288
Whats up with their constant usage of the word "nigga"? Are they some white supremacist group or something?
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>>22038551
He's probably american. It seems being ironically racist is 'hip' with the youngsters there now, for some reason.
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>>22037560
Why you hatin on anothers niggas success??
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>>22037560
You came to circlejerk platform that centers around the person himself. What did you expect?
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>>22037930
>And it not even the first time for ShibayanRecords:
That particular videos links to the original song which properly credits Shibayan for writing the song. In our current case, some nameless guy copy pasted Shibayan's song, did what any 5 year old could do which was copy paste drum beat and a quote from hokuto no ken and then claimed that the song was his. He licensed a song that someone else made. This is a literal attack on the doujin circle. I am completely baffled as to why there isn't any lawsuit it would be such an easy victory. Worst part is these people don't even know what Touhou is.
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>>22038651
It costs money for a lawsuit and Japanese copyright laws are probably different from where this tween making bad soundcloud beats lives.
Hopefully with people shitting on him online, he'll cut it out.
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>>22038717
It'll sooner rain grain than for a shameless arrogant man be shamed into being humble.
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>>22036851
>>22036872
>>22036877
>>22036958
The twitter thread has more tweets you know:

ありがとうございます、私は7月末頃から色んな方からメールを頂き既に全て知っておりますので、彼らの行っているHiphopコラージュの文化について調べながら、Nyan catの事例を参考に、関係する全ての人に将来的に最も良い方法を考えているところです。

ガイドラインや法律を詳細に見ると、この問題は現在の状況を含むと皆が考えているほどは単純に解決出来る物ではないと思います...。

これは実際にはOf these 3 parts, the drum beats のくだりは一部間違いで、hiphopコラージュの文化ではこれは途中経過のベーストラックであり、半製品であるという事です。これの完成品はLil boomのラップが乗ったAlready Deadです。まぁそれはそれとしてインストとして売られたという事になります。
しばやん

こちらの柴さんという方が書いた記事が、彼らの動きとトラックメイクのプロセスなど背景にある文化を知る助けになります。Type beatの解説やこの記事が引用しているページや、マッシュアップの文化を掘り下げていくと正確に把握できると思います。推測ではない部分が重要です

で、その記事にある通り、結果tiktokでミームソングになってしまったので、恐らく今後も次々と他の人が勝手に配信する事が予想されます。この曲単体をどうにかする事を考えてもしょうがないから、その先を考えなければなりません。調べた所ミームソングになる前から合計3人が配信しているようでした。

(youtubeの無断転載動画に付いていたcontent idから逆に追って調べて分かるような範囲で3人という事なので、実際どのプラットフォームにどのくらいあるのかは不明です。

Also, he posted this comment at the bottom of this article.

https://note.mu/shiba710/n/nf35ed5ad9fcd

2019/09/08 15:08
当事者が書いていい物なのかどうか分かりませんが、ルールに基づいてサンプリングやリミックスを(原盤利用については)自由にしても良いというだけであって、著作権自体は正しく処理されている訳ではないです。現状私の方もルールに基づいて1円も受け取らないので...
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>>22036695
>>22036851
>>22036851
>>22036872
>>22036877
>>22037437
>>22038651
Click Show More Replies, you fucking dumbasses.

Shibayan Records is saying he is trying to understand this "type beat" culture and researching if Nyan Cat is applicable in this situation.

Big problem is the person who invented Nyan Cat made sure to immediately credit the person who made the Japanese sound track that got attached to the Nyan Cat video and never attempted to license the Japanese sound track.

CLICK SHOW MORE REPLIES IN THAT SPECIFIC TWEET, YOU FUCKING RETARDS.
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>>22036958
>>22037437
PERMISSION TO SAMPLE IS NOT PERMISSION TO LICENSE, YOU FUCKING RETARD.
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>>22038762
Calm down, deadman, you already made your money
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>>22038748
>現状私の方もルールに基づいて1円も受け取らないので
This infuriates me.
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When will ZUN fucking wake up from his drunken stupor and fix everything.
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>>22037437
今月はもう英文のメール返信するの疲れてしまった
めっちゃ長文で書かれてたガイドラインの話が出来るっぽい人には返信したかったが今月はここまで…


sheepgravy
@sheepgravy
14h14 hours ago
Replying to @yaaaaaan

記事にはいくつかの誤りがあります。詳細をお送りしました
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sheepgravy
@sheepgravy
16h16 hours ago

Replying to @yaaaaaan

申し訳ありませんが、私たちはあなたに何が起こっていたかをお知らせしたかったです
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しばやん
@yaaaaaan
16h16 hours ago

ありがとうございます、私は7月末頃から色んな方からメールを頂き既に全て知っておりますので、彼らの行っているHiphopコラージュの文化について調べながら、Nyan catの事例を参考に、関係する全ての人に将来的に最も良い方法を考えているところです。

Stop lying you fucking piece of shit with your fucking false narrative.

>Shibayan says he has been getting emails from around the world since the end of July.

CLICK SHOW MORE REPLIES, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT LIAR, LYING A BOUT WHAT SHIBAYAN IS THINKING WHEN YOU DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER READ THE ENTIRE TWITTER THREAD.

Shibayan is saying Thank You to sheepgravy and mentioning how he has been receiving emails from around the world.
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>>22037560
>>22037581
>>22038613
>>22038626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45tXCixDGQA

These are all of deadman and his friends in their livestream who like talking like WIGGERS.

This is deadman's alternate youtube account he linked from his

https://www.youtube.com/user/teamnoah111/about/UCB3ZziPR5_285GxrCxscO7A

This is his alternative youtube account where he uploaded a video titled Gay Nigga Hours (Sad Nigga Hours Parody) with his REAL VOICE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VZPJS40QIY

JUST GOOGLE THE NAME HE USED BEFORE DEADMAN: shibitobans

SOUNDS LIKE A WHITE BOY WHO LIKES SAYING THE WORD NIGGER IN TODAY'S PC WORLD.
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>>22038769
FUCK OFF DEADMAN.

I JUST REVEALED YOUR ALTERNATE YOUTUBE ACCOUNT EASILY DISCOVERED BY GOOGLING YOUR PREVIOUS NAME YOU WENT BY BEFORE DEADMAN

https://www.youtube.com/user/teamnoah111/about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VZPJS40QIY

WHAT WILL YOUR NEW FANS THINK OF YOU RAPPING ABOUT GAY NIGGAS
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>>22038853
Just doxx him at this point. If he isnt too far I might buy some jerry cans and a trolley
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>>22036695
You guys may have heard of deadman, the guy who "remixed" and licensed a Touhou song from Shibayan Records called Tiny Little Adiantum to a commercial music publisher named United Masters. The name of the remix is deadman 死人 - Omae Wa Mou by the way

Deadman's remix by the way is essentially adding in the trademarked catchphrase of Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" and a simple drum beat loop while modifying nothing else from the original Tiny Little Adiantum song.

Apparently, this guy never heard of copyright infringement because checking out his youtube channel, you have to wonder the balls of this guy to "sample" music from Undertale and even Evangelion and under the video description, mention if you want to purchase the "beat", please message him.

Lil Boom x Undertale Type Beat - "071" (prod. deadman 死人): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IndxqmEkVqw [Embed]

Lil Boom x Undertale Type Beat - "Reunited" (prod. deadman 死人): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOFhM-9h2r8 [Embed]

Lil Boom x Undertale Type Beat - "Uwa!!" (prod. deadman 死人): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlcY_3YW4X8 [Embed]

Seave x Neon Genesis Evangelion Type Beat - "To The Moon" (prod. deadman 死人): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYmuQiDJTeI [Embed]

Doesn't this go against Toby Fox's copyright terms of use and guidelines when it comes to Undertale:

https://undertale.tumblr.com/post/139726155020/changing-policy-on-fan-merch

>- Please don’t use any sound effects from the game or samples from the original songs.

Let's not forget ZUN's copyright guidelines when it comes to Touhou Project and its derivatives, either.
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>>22038871
Him burning alive would be more entertaining than copyright strikes. Besides, did those stuff get licensed too? If not then nothing will happen.
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>>22036695
I got an answer from RouteNote to my inquiry:
>Hey, the release in question that a user uploaded to us was removed as soon as we were aware of the issue and there should no longer be any claimant issues on the track. We apologise for any inconvenience.
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>>22038937
3 copyright strikes permanently shuts down a youtube channel unless you appeal like crazy along with mass emails from other people.

Basically, if you tweet the Undertale videos to Toby Fox and mention how they are using samples from the Undertale soundtrack, Toby Fox will copyright strike Deadman's channel.
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>>22038954
Really? sounds cool
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Btw, to all the people claiming that now, we look like idiots complaining while Shibayan is lenient, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SHIBAYAN
IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING DOUJIN ARTISTS FROM SUCH FUTURE ACTS THAT THEY MIGHT NOT PERCEIVE AS THEFT OR EVEN BE AWARE OF IN THE FIRST PLACE
If you don't gatekeep for the sake of your community, you're just a shitty freeloader that should go back to idolcrap.
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>>22038968
Funnily, I cannot get access to the top 50 viral on Spotify, no matter the country.
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>>22038954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCJ8rdt-f8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMYFeNWv29Q

Every Youtube Video titled "Tiny Adiantum Remix" has been claimed by Deadman.

It's like nobody else's remix is allowed so he claims all the remixes on youtube...

It take too much time to post all the links here.
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>>22038975
THE GREATEST DANGER IS ALL THE DISBANDED, DEAD, OR MISSING IN ACTION TOUHOU DOUJIN MUSIC GROUPS SINCE TOUHOU DOUJIN MUSIC WAS A THING. ALL THEIR MUSIC IS STILL UP SOMEWHERE ONLINE SO EVEN IF SOMEONE DECIDED TO ILLEGALLY SAMPLE THEIR SONGS, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTACT A DEAD, DISBANDED, OR MISSING IN ACTION TOUHOU DOUJIN MUSIC GROUP.
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>>22038288
Server is full of wiggers and underage zoomers who like Jojo and ironic weeaboo memes. Big surprise.
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>>22038975
Yeah, just make sure you're not being overly rude or persistent when contacting the right owners because in the end they are one who have final decision.
If someone fuck it up by being too obnoxious then it will only increase the stigma of west community even further.
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Everyone check out United Masters' official Twitter account. They constantly tweet images of "Woke Niggas" along with a message. What would United Masters' do when they find out they signed a licensing deal with someone who raps about Gay niggas? It would damage United Masters' woke branding if they signed someone who raps about Gay niggas and people found out about it.
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>>22039104
Im more curious as to why rapping is even a thing. Its literally just talking about breaking the law at a fast pace.
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Please do not involve /jp/ with anything outside of Touhou, thank you.
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How in the absolute fuck is this autist not getting a vacation yet? Every other post is him trying to get /jp/ to do his bidding for something no one cares about.
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>>22039130
how the fuck is this outside of touhou
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>>22039343
The "let's contact other devs he has plagiarized to bury him to the ground" part
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>>22039343
You're literally shilling an american rapper. Fuck off from the board.
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>>22039443
?????????
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>>22039534
schizos, twitterfaggots and discord babies causing drama
at this point shibayan already said what they had to say regarding it and now its people sperging out turning it into something more than it is
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>>22038986
>Thanks a lot for getting in touch and letting us know. We have removed the track from our systems definitively now and there should be no existing claims any more for the video.

>It's still showing for that video as YouTube is processing the change but whilst it shows that we have claimed the video there is no claim in the system for it. It shouldn't show anymore very soon.

>Thank you for letting us know though, it's always good to be sure in these cases!
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Serves Shibayan right for abandoning EDM.
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>>22039924
This. Im still waiting for MyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyonMyon
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>>22039924
He made a song like that not so long ago.
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>>22039971

Can you be more specific?
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>>22040025
Track 2 on GALAXY TOKYO. It's titled GALAXY TOKYO, too. Like the album.
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>>22040059

Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Who gives a shit, look at this fucking cute Keiki Shibayan retweeted!
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>>22038762
>>22038768
>>22038794
In the middle of all your anger you forgot that most /jp/sies have no idea how twitter works for anything other than grabbing images (and even that is mostly a mystery too).
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>>22039104
https://twitter.com/unitedmasters

https://twitter.com/unitedmasters/status/1169242214658170881

https://unitedmasters.com/
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>>22037036
I didn’t do shit, I was the college homework guy, was gonna email ZUN then decided fuck it and went to bed
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>>22041217
That post is lying about Shibayan's reaction because he never bothered to read the rest of the tweets by Shibayan because long tweets causes Twitter to hide the replies and you need to click show more tweets.
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Do we apologise?
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>>22041287
Read the thread. There is no need to apologize because some dumbasses didn't read the whole twitter thread with all the replies shown.

Shibayan was just saying to an english poster thanks for letting him what is going on and that he has been getting emails all over the world since the end of July.
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man I remember when soundcloud was an asshole with my house and dnb mixtapes, even if they were 90% straight outta my fl studio 11 (cracked by ChingLiu) it had a few looped samples from other people but enough to take down 6 mixtapes of 2 hours each one.
Account deleted and shit erased.
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>>22039568
>_a_ schizo/twitterfaggot/discord baby causing drama all by himself
I am quoting an alternate reality where this anon's statement is more accurate.
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>>22040678
Cute! I don't care about Shibayan ruining the doujin scene anymore!
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>>22042083
I'm slightly thankful to the fact that this incident was brought up since I'd never have found out about it otherwise but holy shit did this guy really need to be so fucking retardedly autistic
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>>22042087
Fuck off you autistic retarded drama faggot. People like you are the reason I was hesitant to add to the original thread and prevent it from dying at 10 posts. I'm glad that more people know about the situation and everyone is right to be pissed about deadman stealing shit, but only you are retarded enough to try and twist it into Shibayan somehow doing something wrong, when he neither benefits monetarily or in terms of publicity from the situation.
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>>22042281
who fucking cares over twitter faggot drama let shibayan deal with it themselves
they already know it happened
go get some constructive hobbies
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>>22042369
Check the post you're replying to, I agree with you to let it be.
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>>22036695
Sorry for phoneposting and not really adding anything to the conversation (found out about this the hard way when I started up my car and i shit you not guess what i heard on the radio), I've been pretty angery about this the whole day. But I just couldn't help but laugh at th the positioning of these album covers after a long day of seething
Hell I dont even visit /jp/ much at all let alone 4chan but lets be real this is a big deal for me, I'm scared of what will happen in the future because those two idiots went and licenced that dogshit
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>>22042421
yeah i realized right after i got the wrong post whoopsies
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>>22042455
There was a completely bias article on how it was put up on spotify (I'm assuming that's what that app is), taken down, then put back up. Which is hilarious cause deadman keeps claiming it's not about the money. Like I get you want that exposure, but how about doing it with your own talent.
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>>22042562
Yeah that would be that Rolling Stone article. The Rolling Stone is worth shit nowadays imho. I've been following this a lot today. It's cool that Shibayan's happy I guess but he only gave permission for remixes of his own songs. He didn't (and can't) give permission to license anything but I guess lil boom/deadman don't need permissions to sign illegal licenses, and I guess it's okay for that label (cant remember its name) to propose and sign illegal licenses without doing any proper backup checks.
They probably have no idea how many of other people's works deadman has been illegally ripping off, and if ZUN doesn't do anything -- which is possible and very likely -- KADOKAWA and others whose stuff he has been consistently plariarizing will eventually.
The bigger the balloon grows, the louder it's gonna pop.
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>>22042768
I wouldn't be surprised if the label paid Rolling Stone to publish that article. Makes others who don't already know about the situation sympathize with deadman and lil boom. While the plagiarism is something to feel unjustified about, in the end they're just dumb kids who wanted to make easy money. There's really not much that can be done with the situation on our end and imo not worth pursuing in ZUN/Shibayan eyes. I'm keepin tabs on it in hopes it'd get taken down eventually, but that's highly unlikely.
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It’s a bit off topic but...
I googled ‘type beat’ and find this article:
https://medium.com/igno-by-shkyd/type-beats-from-the-bottom-of-youtube-to-the-top-of-billboard-9beab7f76695
>A Type Beat is an instrumental song, purposely matching patterns of already existing songs, using the usual types of BPM, drum sounds and song structure, to be easy to suit a rapper.
>Type Beats are usually uploaded on YouTube for display and promotion, and on the beatmakers’ websites for sale, or on platforms made for this.
I hate to say this but it’s a gray area kind of like doujin.
The point is that obscure creators have been making and selling their type beats in the past few years, why’s deadman the first one getting copyright issue?
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>>22042987
Deadman is 18 years old.

Lil Boom is 23 years old.
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>>22043018
>an instrumental song
You do know the original has lyrics right.
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>>22043018
ZUN and Shibayan don't sell type beats for free use
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>>22043035
I know that, a kid wouldn't be able to sign off on a contract without a legal guardian. The point I was trying to make is that they're young and dumb. Youtube is filled with "lofi anime hip hop remixes" nowadays since that's the current trend.
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>>22043018
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/the-worst-best-day-of-my-life-how-a-song-went-viral-then-suddenly-disappeared-871991/

The rolling stone articles in this thread mentioned type beaters have gotten into legal trouble.

>Strange as “Omae Wa Mou”‘s story is, the track sits squarely at the intersection of two trends in modern pop. Cheap technology and beat-sale sites make it easier than ever for an unknown artist to obtain an instrumental with an ear-catching sample. At the same time, the hit-making apparatus in 2019 moves with such speed and ferocity that young artists are often forced to obtain legal clearance for those samples at the same time as their singles rocket up the charts (Juice WRLD and Lil Nas X both ran into this problem).

>Although he praised Juice WRLD for the beautiful interpretation of his smash record "Shape of My Heart," iconic rock-n-roll singer Sting sued the budding superstar and won a massive amount of royalties for Juice interpolating the song on "Lucid Dreams.”

>Lil Nas X, the rapper who shot to fame this year with the blockbuster “Old Town Road,” has been sued by a California music publisher for $25 million for allegedly stealing from a 1982 Bobby Caldwell song for another of his songs.

>In a complaint filed on Wednesday, The Music Force LLC said Lil Nas X borrowed without permission from Caldwell’s R&B song “Carry On” for his own song with the same title, which he then posted to YouTube and streaming platforms such as Spotify and SoundCloud.

>The plaintiff also sued Lil Nas X’s new record label, Sony Music, saying it chose not to properly vet the 20-year-old’s music because it was “far more important” to preserve the chance to generate millions of dollars of revenue from his career.

There is no gray area you like claim for these Type Beaters. They are getting sued and losing in court.
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>>22043065
None of these lofi anime hip hop remixers have ever gotten the balls to license the original anime song they sampled unlike Deadman and Lil Boom.

So I guess for those people you mentioned, even they are not dumb enough to license and copyright strike the original song...
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>>22043018
>>22043043
>>22043065
Rolling Stone article was written very badly.

An instrumental contains no vocals by its very definition.

Deadman's remix still contains the vocals of Touhou doujin singer, 3L, and not only that but the catchphrase of Kenshiro.

This dumbass Rolling Stone writer still called Deadman's remix an instrumental, anyway.

You can try to defend Deadman all you want but even if Shibayan says it is okay to sample, we do not know the business relationship Shibayan has with the vocalist 3L, and if she ever intended her voice to be licensed outside the Touhou fandom and outside of Japan.
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>>22043070
Uh, so those who keep making type beats just hope for being famous and not being caught at the same time?
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>>22043119
Basically and rolling stone painted them as victims because from the impression I get from the article, the writer is saying these type beaters are finally "forced to obtain legal clearance" after they got popular.
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>>22043100
Second guy you quoted here. I wasn't defending deadman at all, I just said that he can't make ne license a "type beat" song of ZUN or Shibayan's works because they aren't for sale and free use like that
And yes, there's 3L whose permission should be needed as well
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>>22043146
>make me license a
Rather,
>make and license a
Pardon me
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>>22043100
>This dumbass Rolling Stone writer still called Deadman's remix an instrumental, anyway.
B-but anime girls sound is an instrument, right?
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>>22043100
Please work on your reading comprehension, I'm not even trying to defend them. I'd love to see that shit get taken down by all means. Again, all I'm saying is that we can't do anything on our end and there's no point in spamming the creators. They know about it, but it's literally infringement on one song from two random guys in america so I doubt they care too much.
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Anybody suspicious of United Masters for signing a deal with Lil Boom and Deadman?

You think they have at least a lawyer who helped research background knowledge of Deadman and Lil Boom's remixes.

It just feels "unethical" but I heard only the classical music industry still has ethics these days while the rest of the music industry are still acting like gangsters.
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>>22043206
Probably just didnt bother researching "obscure japanese shit" and imagined that Shibayan is the one who owns the rights. Or maybe they just looked at Shibayan's song and went "Oh! He hasn't copyrighted it yet! Quick, let's take ownership!" without knowing that ZUN's the one who basically owns all of it
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>>22043205
Deadman's "remix" is ranked #1 on both Spotify
Global Viral 50 and United States Viral 50

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbLiRSasKsNU9

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZEVXbKuaTI1Z1Afx

You do realize this is commercialization on a scale not imagined in ZUN's worst nightmare, right? Do you not understand what the words "global" mean.

There are radio stations in Germany, broadcasting Deadman's remix, right now, not just in America.

https://twitter.com/OnosakiHito/status/1169905711574175745

You may not be defending Deadman but you are downplaying the incident too much because you think this infringement is just limited to America and it's actually infringement on a global level.
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>>22043205
It would enable Deadman and Lil Boom copycats as they decide to look at the entire Touhou doujin music scene as ripe for illegal exploration in the form of "free samples" with the pathetic excuse we don't even know how to ask for permission in Japanese or Japanese can not even understand the English sentence: Can I please sample your song?

It would enable Deadman and Lil Boom to exploit even more of Shibayan Records' songs.
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>>22043256
Didn't know that part honestly, so that's on me, but if it's as bad as you make it seem ZUN would hopefully step in right? I apologize if I "downplayed it" or seemed apathetic, but again what are we suppose to do about it. Tell people not to listen to it? It's a start, but it's not like people aren't already trying their best at doing what they can. It's up to them to make the ultimatum.
>>22043272
After this entire controversy I can't imagine they'd be that dumb, but that's just me being hopeful on my end.
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>>22043272
It's still too early to raise your pitchforks.
If things really start to get out of hand, more people and important figures will eventually notice and take action. For now, it's only a single case so try not to make it like big impending doom. Just focus on doing what needed to solve the issue.
I mean, what will you do if Shibayan and ZUN let this one case slide in the end? Burn their houses?
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>>22043035
Fucking American zoomers ruining everything
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>>22043517
Zoomers killed rock music or any music but rap these days if you think about it, but that is just my perspective while living in America.

I guess you could argue heavy metal is still alive but like generic rock is dead because zoomers don't form rock bands anymore. It's easier and cheaper to be a soundcloud rapper instead because you can just do everything at home instead of renting a place to play the guitar and drums.
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>>22036695
>>22043256
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1IAIRAvJCUc01U0doDVKN9/about

Deadman: 843, 263 monthly listeners

Santiago, Chile: 30,641 monthly listeners

Mexico City, Mexico: 15, 250 monthly listeners

Los Angeles, United States: 12,998 monthly listeners

Jakarta, Indonesia: 9,649 monthly listeners

Chicago, United States: 9,558 monthly listeners

To think all these people will assume Deadman created this song since Spotify just credits Deadman
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>>22043256
>>22043286
>>22044001
Heard it yesterday on radio here in Finland too
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Oh shit, not my country
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>>22044001
Can you sue the corporations backing deadman for this or no?
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>>22044571
See https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-lil-nas-x/lil-nas-x-is-sued-for-25-million-for-alleged-song-theft-idUSKCN1UK2VH

>Lil Nas X, the rapper who shot to fame this year with the blockbuster “Old Town Road,” has been sued by a California music publisher for $25 million for allegedly stealing from a 1982 Bobby Caldwell song for another of his songs.

>In a complaint filed on Wednesday, The Music Force LLC said Lil Nas X borrowed without permission from Caldwell’s R&B song “Carry On” for his own song with the same title, which he then posted to YouTube and streaming platforms such as Spotify and SoundCloud.

>The plaintiff also sued Lil Nas X’s new record label, Sony Music, saying it chose not to properly vet the 20-year-old’s music because it was “far more important” to preserve the chance to generate millions of dollars of revenue from his career.
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>>22044571
There's so many layers to this that ZUN, Shibayan, and 3L could all theoretically sue, so we will see if they choose to take action against this theft.
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>>22044875
How will the latter 2 afford it? Are we gonna crowd fund this? Or crowd source?
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>>22044721
Who won?
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>>22044938
Still ongoing.
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/29226362/The_Music_Force,_LLC_v_Sony_Music_Holdings_Inc_et_al
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>>22043256
>>22044001
It can't be helped.
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>>22043146
>>22044875
If you really want to inform 3L of her rights.
https://twitter.com/anporin/
She’d probably ignore you though.
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It'd bother me a lot less was it not also ruining the song.

Seriously, a lazy beat and crap lyrics. Awful.
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That said, honestly leave it alone already. It's annoying but not damning, quit bothering ZUN and Shibayan about it
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>>22045865
>>22045933
This
If they want to do something about it they will. We can't do anything other than continue to support ZUN and Shibayan.
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>>22045933
This. ZUN will probably leave it be and the song's gonna die when the zoomers get tired of the meme. I'll keep on getting angry about hearing it play anywhere though. Let's just hope that KADOKAWA or some other big company gets their panties in a twist
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>>22045933
It's literally just one or two autists who keep bumping the thread

with massive reddit-tier paragraph spacing

just like this.
Please don't bully they're mentally retarded
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I'm actually more surprised that the song isn't down because of the Kenshiro line. Does that mean that I can sample anime phrases with no consequences.
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>>22046261
Yes
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>>22046261
>I'm actually more surprised that the song isn't down because of the Kenshiro line.
Ironically the only thing that had been sampled correctly in that song. Even then it's not that transformative. A sample is a portion of something not an entire song lift.
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SPERG ABOUT SOMETHING I NEED MORE
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2chins is at it
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>>22048285
Anyone got a rough translation of what their saying
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>>22036695

https://sevenseasentertainment.com/about/contact-us/

https://www.sentaifilmworks.com/a/contact

Contact pages for Non Non Byori: Seven Seas licensed the Manga while Sentai licensed the Anime.

Might as well contact both companies.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0t6WN90tS2MxAhNxFbePOY

https://music.apple.com/us/album/omae-wa-mou-single/1477756263

https://play.google.com/store/music/album/deadman_%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%BA_Omae_Wa_Mou?id=B37soaze3c5v46vok3aaams7g7a

https://music.amazon.com/albums/B07WR1322C?trackAsin=B07WR169QY&tag=ton08-20

https://www.amazon.com/Omae-Wa-Mou-Clean/dp/B07X2CLFPV/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Omae+Wa+Mou&qid=1568158010&s=gateway&sr=8-2
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First of the North Star's manga publisher is Shueisha

Fist of the North Star was animated by Toei Animation

Fist of the North Star anime was licensed to Discotek Media
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>>22048596
Just wondering how a Touhou arrangement suddenly boomed worldwide. We've been over this, the Japanese fans only care about how a product of their fanbase became popular in the West.
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>>22036695
Deadman bragging his "remix" got 6x more hits than Shibayan Record's official upload.

Check his Soundcloud Comments:

https://soundcloud.com/shibitobans/comments

He truly has no shame.
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>>22051103
As you can see in the screenshot, Deadman linked to this youtube video, one year ago by Alice Margatroid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmKKG6tCP3M

He was aware of Shibayan Record's name but didn't bother to ask for permission to sample until like last month.
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https://music.line.me/album/mb00000000019bf4dd

Holy shit, Deadman is actually selling his remix in fucking Japan under LINE MUSIC.

In fucking Japan of all places, directly competing with Shibayan Records in his own country.
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>>22051187
https://music.line.me/album/mb000000000199e2e7

Lil Boom is doing the same thing as well.

Selling his remix in Japan just like Deadman in fucking Japan on the LINE Music platform, directly competing with Shibayan Records.

Greed really goes beyond international boundaries.
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>>22051194
>>22051187
I wonder just how much money are they going to be able to get before some concerned party challenges them in court, this is so illegal and such an easy victory in court
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>>22051103
>>22051116
Yo, niggas. ‘Tis just how hip hop works. Take it easy, mAn.
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Enough information for Shibayan to sue. Send the info his way in proper Japanese.
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>>22051206
No matter how much they make, the lawsuit will make sure they lose more than they make.
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>>22053567
There are many people that can sue both deadman and lil’boom, it’s only a matter of time now that they decided to sell in japan, this eliminates any needs for international copyright discrepancies. I’ll give them another month before someone steps in and sues them into oblivion. I just hope this acts as a warning to other circles to be more cautious of westerners wanting to “remix” and “sample” there work.
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>>22039971
He also did the mixing for Plantagenia album, if that counts.
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This is terrible. Is it so much fun to bully a little kid with your autism on the internet? I hope you're proud of yourself, you're all complicit in ending a person's life.
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>>22056056
Yeah who dares oppose a person making profits out of someone else's work
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>>22056056
yes defend a person who profits off stealing the hard work of others. both Lil'boom and deadman deserve to have their careers in music ended because of this.
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you weren't paying for either of those albums anyway
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>>22056056
Bully? Is it bullying to exercise the full extent of the law to bring justice to a thief?
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>>22056056
Seeing how proud that little nigger of his thievery here >>22051103 I think he deserve it.
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>>22056056
>you're all complicit in ending a person's life
I couldn't care less if he decided to hang himself over this, his life is his own. But stealing another's work for your own profit, and shamelessly bragging about it, should be punishable.
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>>22056056
>you're all complicit in ending a person's life.
I would gladly use these very hands to strangle him. Piss off.
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>>22051103
Of course it's a Poop Pretentious profile pic, as expected of a retarded nigger.
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>>22056056
In ancient times, thieves had their hands cut off.
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>>22051103
>sample
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>>22056456
Fuck off tourist
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>>22056571
Are you retarded or do you not know a googled reaction image when you see one? Brush up on identifying actual crossboarders, newfag.
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>>22056659
>googled reaction image
Go away
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>>22056659
He didn't call you a crossboarder he called you a tourist.
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>>22056659
>Needing reaction image because he can't emphasize thing with words.
>Posting 3D image unrelated to thread topic.
Lurk more faggot, this isn't /v/ where being loud and obnoxious is considered as proving any point.
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>>22056456
>>22056791
Who are you quoting?
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>>22056801
First guy quoting deadman on the picture.
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>>22056056
obvious bait is obvious
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>>22056791
Lurk more yourself, you're acting like a brat.

>>22056788
Same thing, no?
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>>22056742
Why would that even upset you?
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What is ZUN's email address? I am surprised he doesn't use a gmail. Is it really that email address he puts on his blog?
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>>22056056
Deadman is 18 years old and Lil Boom is 23 years old and both are old enough to sign business contracts with UnitedMasters.
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https://twitter.com/shibitobans

Deadman deleted all the tweets calling him a thief.

He just temporarily deleted his twitter account and is back on twitter.

Guess he was afraid of actual music industry professionals like Steven Universe' music producer calling him out on twitter.
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I'm going to make a soundcloud account as the name of Lil' ZUN and make trap beats remixing every Touhou game music piece while using lyrics based on comments from this board, then sue ZUN from being a plagiarist. You know when you sign with ((them)) you are protected from any attack.
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>>22036695
I still feel Shibayan Records was a dumbass for not checking Deadman's youtube channel, realize he was a plagiarist, and then reject Deadman's request to sample.

However, even if Shibayan allowed Deadman to sample after 2 years of not even asking for permission, the faggot actually dared to immediately license his "remix" to United Masters despite not having the legal right to do so.

Permission to sample does not mean permission to license.
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Shibayan is more than one person.

I been reading copyright for instrumentals and Deadman and Lil Boom are super fucked for licensing to United Masters as though they were the original copyright holder.
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>>22058131
>Shibayan is more than one person.
Tell me something I don't know.
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>>22058131
Basically did Shibayan before saying yes sampling is okay to Deadman, did he even bother to ask the vocalist 3L and the person who wrote the lyrics, milka?

I have no idea if 3L is part of some vocalist talent management but I hope Shibayan consulted with everybody because I doubt 3L is happy with Lil Boom rapping about penises while you can hear her vocals in the background of Lil Boom's "remix"
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>>22058136
>>22045865
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>>22058255
>>22058136
>>22045865
First time her voice is heard outside Japan. It ends up being a black rapper rapping about dicks in someone's mouth while her vocals are in the background in Lil Boom's "remix".
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>>22058324
What is with Americans and sex and drugs and ultra violence? Why are they so backwards?
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Deadman 死人 and Lil Boom have been selling their remixes on different commercial platforms around the world through their music distributor,
UnitedMasters. The name of Deadman 死人's track is " deadman 死人 - Omae Wa
Mou " and the name of Lil Boom's track is " Lil Boom - Already Dead ". You can already find their remixes being released in not only America, but China, India, Japan, and even Russia. Relevant links below:

Deadman 死人:

1) Akazoo: https://www.akazoo.com/album/28038499/omae-wa-mou

2) Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Omae-Wa-Mou-Clean/dp/B07X2CLFPV
/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Omae+Wa+Mou&qid=1568158010&s=gateway&sr=8-2

3) Amazon Music:
https://music.amazon.com/albums/B07WR1322C?trackAsin=B07WR169QY&tag=ton08-20

4) Apple Music / iTunes:
https://music.apple.com/us/album/omae-wa-mou-single/1477756263

5) Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/artist/70092792

6) Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/music/album/deadman_%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%BA_Omae_Wa_Mou?id=B37soaze3c5v46vok3aaams7g7a

7) iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/artist/deadman-33278342/

8) JioSaavn: https://www.jiosaavn.com/song/omae-wa-mou/OyUJUjZCVVU

9) LINE Music: https://music.line.me/album/mb00000000019bf4dd

10) Napster: https://us.napster.com/artist/deadman-/album/omae-wa-mou-deadman-

11) Qobuz: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/omae-wa-mou-deadman-/pt6tmoq9tibnb#

12) QQ Music: https://y.qq.com/n/yqq/singer/002FDISH4McMQi.html

13) SoundCloud:
https://soundcloud.com/user-402568180/lil-boom-already-dead-omae-wa-mou-instrumental-prod-deadman

14) Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/0t6WN90tS2MxAhNxFbePOY

15) Yandex Music: https://music.yandex.com/album/8496608/track/56982695

16) Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejv0Gk-mGko

Lil Boom:

1) Akazoo: https://www.akazoo.com/album/28033885/already-dead

2) Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Already-Dead-Explicit/dp/B07WX6J9WS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lil+boom&qid=1568191096&s=gateway&sr=8-3

3) Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/albums/B07WW3NWDT?trackAsin=B07WX6J9WS

4) Apple Music / iTunes:

https://music.apple.com/us/album/already-dead-single/1477401646

https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/lil-boom-deadman-already-dead-omae-wa-mou-full-ost/pl.u-xlyNEpdukRNlqKG

5) Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/album/108335762

6) Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Lil_Boom_Already_Dead?id=Bgnfcjamgkzw2552auwqfqi7wka&tid=song-Tueo77wktpr3dtxbuwvmpk3v4nu

7) iHeartRadio:
https://www.iheart.com/artist/lil-boom-30719553/albums/already-dead-78783080/

8) JioSaavn: https://www.jiosaavn.com/album/already-dead/re9gr-9DAiE_

9) LINE Music: https://music.line.me/album/mb000000000199e2e7

10) Napster: https://us.napster.com/artist/lil-boom/album/already-dead

11) Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/artist/lil-boom/already-dead-single-explicit/ALwJnPbtxzcKvfc

12) Qobuz: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/already-dead-lil-boom/h5ohvt55ar3gc

13) QQ Music: https://y.qq.com/n/yqq/album/003ldeYn3ysM0U.html

14) Slacker: https://www.slacker.com/song/lil-boom/already-dead

15) SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/imlilboom/sets/alreadydead

16) Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/album/3UCSHskYQk36YKtytx3Dra

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0PSV9fgEiwYgqrWUR3hcGK?si=BKMhZEhcTYe87_UQ02EkYw

17) Yandex Music: https://music.yandex.com/album/8464750/track/49324366

18) Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHYMTGVH3rA

Lil Boom's track: 'Lil Boom - Already Dead' has already been broadcasted on a commercial radio station like FM 96.5 while Deadman
死人's track: 'deadman 死人 - Omae Wa Mou' has even been broadcasted on a morning German radio station in Germany. Relevant links below:

https://twitter.com/unitedmasters/status/1169242214658170881

https://twitter.com/OnosakiHito/status/1169905711574175745
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>>22058404
Not only that but it appears that an artist that goes by the name Shayne Orok has been
selling tracks that are covers of deadman 死人 - Omae Wa Mou, which, itself, is a remix of Shibayan Records' Tiny Little Adiantum, which,
itself, is a derivative of ZUN's original composition, Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land, on several different commercial platforms through their music distributor,
Soundrop. The name of Shayne Orok's track is 'Shayne Orok - Omae Wa Mou'. The action by this artist and their music distributor, Soundrop,
appear to be in violation of the Terms of Use and Guidelines ZUN created for Touhou Project. Relevant links are shown below.

ZUN's twitter: https://twitter.com/korindo
ZUN's email: zun@big.jp
ZUN's blog concerning guidelines for Touhou Project Copyright:
1) https://kourindou.exblog.jp/14218252/
2) https://kourindou.exblog.jp/17092211/

1) Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Omae-Wa-Mou-Shayne-Orok/dp/B07WZVG68C/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=Shayne+Orok&qid=1568267045&s=gateway&sr=8-20

2) Amazon Music:
https://music.amazon.com/albums/B07WZVG68C/B07X2YYXC8?tab=CATALOG&ref=dm_wcp_albm_link_search_c

3) Apple Music / iTunes:
https://music.apple.com/us/album/omae-wa-mou-single/1478056771

4) Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/album/109013352

5) Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=B5lqz5wa2o4b67ajcz3agxpgdra&tid=song-Ttxbl2zub7mcgx3hcpe4enue5mq

6) iHeartRadio:
https://www.iheart.com/artist/shayne-orok-32086922/albums/omae-wa-mou-79031719/

7) Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/artist/shayne-orok/omae-wa-mou-single/omae-wa-mou/TR47Xxzt2PzJVxP

8) Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/7MF4pql0wMym94LCkn6vrX

9) Youtube:

deadman 死人 - "Omae Wa Mou / Already Dead"Male Cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHhkXT2EmB8

deadman 死人 - "Omae Wa Mou / Already Dead" (Male Cover)10 HOURS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE1zJTFT79s

deadman 死人 - "Omae Wa Mou / Already Dead"DUET (ノヮ)ノ*:・゚ (Cover):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdc7yN6iITk

deadman 死人 - "Omae Wa Mou / Already Dead"10 HOUR DUET (ノヮ)ノ*:・゚
(Cover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-yiNx8sbY
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>>22058404
>>22058469
ZUN's blog concerning guidelines for Touhou Project Copyright:

ZUN's twitter: https://twitter.com/korindo
ZUN's email: zun@big.jp
ZUN's blog concerning guidelines for Touhou Project Copyright:
1) https://kourindou.exblog.jp/14218252/
2) https://kourindou.exblog.jp/17092211/

Never has such a legal nightmare been presented before ZUN's Terms of Use and Guidelines for Touhou Project Copyright ever since he created it. I would say it is equally as bad as the time a complete stranger managed to trademark Touhou Project and Team Shanghai Alice without ZUN's knowledge until it was too late to stop it because ZUN was not notified in time.

However, that Touhou trademark battle occurred only in Japan. This time's battle involves Touhou Project Copyright and possible copyright infringement involving Touhou Project on a global scale, involving several countries around the world that include China, India, Russia, and even Japan, itself.

And it doesn't stop at commercial digital music platforms like Spotify but Touhou Project music being broadcasted on commercial radio stations around the world that include even Germany and not just solely within the boundaries of America.

This legal nightmare challenges the very existence of ZUN's Touhou Project Copyright Guidelines and may create a negative legal precedent that strikes at the very existence and core of Touhou Project's community if ZUN does not quickly act to protect his Touhou Project and the community he helped, fostered.
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Jesus Christ, the autism on these last few posts is breathtaking
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>>22058552
Maybe you should stop posting and take it easy. This is such an easy win all you need is an experienced lawyer.
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You'd think this anon is a Shibayan from an alternate dimension where he's the opposite of taking it easy
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https://soundcloud.com/shibitobans/alek
this fucker is ripping off eggy
maybe we should get /r9k/ on this
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>>22058552
Nothing bad is actually going to come of this. Like I said in the last thread; its an annoying situation, not a dangerous one. Give it a few months time and this shitty remix will be mostly forgotten. If legal implications did come of this its a ridiculously easy win but the likelyhood of that happening are small. Legal actions arent necessary here, just deserved.
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>>22058552
>>22058469
>>22058552
1) JioSaavn: JioSaavn is the online music streaming service and a digital distributor of Bollywood, English and other regional Indian music across the world.

2) QQ Music: QQ Music is one of the three Chinese freemium music streaming service owned by Tencent Music, a joint venture between Tencent and Spotify. As of 2018, the service is set to reach over 700 million users with an estimated 120 million subscribers.

3) Yandex Music is a music streaming service developed by Yandex, a Russian multinational corporation specializing in Internet-related products and services, including search and information services, eCommerce, transportation, navigation, mobile applications, and online advertising.

If enough citizens in China, India, and Russia buy these "unauthorized by ZUN" music tracks from Deadman and Lil Boom, the two individuals have a very high chance of becoming millionaires overnight from commercializing Touhou Project intellectual property without ZUN's permission. Such success could create Deadman and Lil Boom copycats as they now see Touhou Project as ripe for commercial exploitation at the expense of the heart and soul of Touhou Project and its community and fans.
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>>22058704
You're making a lot of "if" statements. Breathe. If they manage to profit a lot off of this one song it's like anon already stated >>22058573 Harassing all the original creators involved to sue will not expedite the process. It's never to late to make a legal case. Even if they let it slide for this one particular song, are you going to start boycotting Zun for not suing?
Give it time, things do not happen instantly.
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>>22058704
>Such success could create Deadman and Lil Boom copycats as they now see Touhou Project as ripe for commercial exploitation at the expense of the heart and soul of Touhou Project and its community and fans.
Hardly anyone is even aware this is a Touhou track in the first place, and if a surge of theft does start then yeah doujin circles and ZUN will certainly do something.
Like, im glad your passionate about this but sperging out and doomposting isnt necessary my man. Relax.
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>>22058345
It’s mostly rap that’s like that, and most people that enjoy rap are quite backwards
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I must agree this is an overreaction. I too, feel a visceral disgust over the situation but on the other hand, this is just a dumb kid too spoiled to realize he's doing a shitty thing.
It's not going to bring down the entirety of doujin culture.
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>>22059027
>mostly rap
American Pop is general is like that
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>>22059029
>It's not going to bring down the entirety of doujin culture.
Anons saying this are doomsayers but if we're going to be brutally honest here, it's a pretty bad thing whenever someone rips a song without person. Using samples is a pretty big part of music, but its just that; samples. Parts of a song. Far as I can tell this is pretty much just a straight rip of another song, which is kinda against that. But the problem really comes from something simple.

Popularity. Vanilla Ice got away pretty clean with just ripping the beat from Under Pressure, simply because his song was relatively popular. They settled out of court and he paid a fraction of the money he made, and this was one big name in the music industry versus living legends. The fact that he didn't go bankrupt after that says it all; even the people who are in the right can still not even be able to take it to court, even if they're leagues larger than the person stealing their work. And these are two english speakers, how far does anyone here think Shibayan will get in a legal system? I say he wouldn't even get far enough to get an out of court settlement, because that groups a foreign literal no one compared to this kid. It's not going to kill the doujin scene, but it's a pretty decent hit because it can set a precedent of just steal foreign work wholesale and just get away with it. Because what can they do? Spend money they don't have to hire a translator, money they don't have to get housing if they have to fly over, money they don't have to get a lawyer, and money they don't have to keep going through the cancerous legal systems of what I'm assuming is America for months on end?

They sell CDs at comiket. Versus the kid getting a signing with companies and making thousands right out the gate, thousands more than Shibayan already makes. It's just not a good look, but as a million other anons have said there's nothing anyone here can do beyond wait for ZUN to do something since Shibayan's group already knows.
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>>22036695
Just found out about this and it makes me sick. You can't just rip someone's song, add a couple beats and license it to sell commercially.

I just hope those dumb kids get sued into oblivion sooner or later. Karma is a bitch.
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>>22059322
>You can't just rip someone's song, add a couple beats and license it to sell commercially.
Yes you can. They just did.
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>>22056056
>you're all complicit in ending a person's life
That would be my greatest accomplishment in life. Please go on.
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>>22059322
You can do anything if you don't get sued.
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>>22059322
I mean, Daft Punk has been doing it for decades.
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>>22059399
I agree, but they don't just "add a couple of beats" to an already existing song. At least they attempt to actually put effort into making it into a new song. I'm pretty sure whoever they sample from also gets royalties and credit.
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fuck this shit.
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>>22036695
In case, there are detractors who think only Touhou fans find this entire situation wrong, a music industry professional like Surasshu who is the music producer for Stevens Universe, finds this situation also very wrong.

https://twitter.com/surasshu/status/1166631979498004480
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Is there any way to filter posts that abuse double spacing? This thread is unreadable.
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>>22061538
Stop browsing 4chan on your phone
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>>22061552
Sorry, but I'm sure it's actually much more readable if you're using a phone because each individual line is a lot smaller so the double spacing makes sense.
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>>22061366
>detractors who think only Touhou fans find this entire situation wrong
>Surasshu
Thanks for proving their point.
Surasshu is a touhou fan and the arranger of a touhou circle called “ORANGEJAM”.
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>>22061366
>there are detractors who think only Touhou fans find this entire situation wrong
They're called entitled retards.
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No one is stealing more of Shibayan Records' music yet?

Cuco - Best Friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qrX7n5O9m0

Cuco - Best Friend Instrumental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gye0_ilt76A

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuco_(musician)

>Omar Banos[5] (born June 26, 1998) known professionally as Cuco, is an American singer-songwriter from Hawthorne, California. His fame escalated after releasing "Lo Que Siento" (2017), which attracted over 56 million streams on Spotify alone. Cuco self-released his first two EPs, Wannabewithu (2016) and Songs4u (2017) after graduating from Hawthorne High School. In 2019, he released his first studio album Para Mi with Interscope Records. His music has gained approximately 290.6 million streams according to Nielsen Music.

I'm just highly skeptical of 21 year olds.

Am I just being paranoid?
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>>22036695
https://twitter.com/korindo

ZUN has made 3 tweets and 1 retweet today after his last tweet on August 29. ZUN is alive!

ZUN is tweeting about today's Tokyo Game Show. He was invented to a panel live stream at the event.

I am surprised /jp/ did not mention this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL8xGXah-bY
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>>22063017
Any signs he's aware of the situation?
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>>22063056
3 tweets about the Tokyo Game Show and 1 Retweet from some Youtuber friend of his who helped livestream the show that he was invited to do. My guess is that he spent this week or last week preparing for the Tokyo Game Show and now that the panel is over, ZUN might finally read his emails.
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Deadman is bragging he got 10, 250, 033 streams for his shitty half assed remix

And holy fuck, we now know the reason why Deadman temporarily deleted his twitter account! He was afraid of the tweets of people calling him a thief were going to be found out by COLUMBIA RECORDS so he deleted the social media account where he was rightfully being called a thief.

Deadman's instagram shows him bragging about being invited by Columbia Records. This guy is not showing any forgiveness or penance. It wasn't enough illegally licensing to United Masters but he is now trying to make a deal with Columbia Records.

The woman who invited him to Columbia Records is Jessica Strassman, A&R for @columbiarecords.

https://twitter.com/jessicasassman?lang=en

https://www.instagram.com/jessicastrassman/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artists_and_repertoire

>Artists and repertoire (A&R) is the division of a record label or music publishing company that is responsible for talent scouting and overseeing the artistic development of recording artists and songwriters.[1] It also acts as a liaison between artists and the record label or publishing company; every activity involving artists to the point of album release is generally considered under the purview, and responsibility, of A&R.

This plagiarizing piece of shit really doesn't care about his constant copyright infringing and illegal licensing and Columbia Record's scout doesn't even notice all the plagiarism?

Are employees this lazy these days. I would at least have checked Deadman's youtube channel.
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>>22063128
Why don't you just go to reddit and post there? I literally do not give a fuck about your wall of text info dumps.
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>>22063128
Deadman brought back his twitter

https://twitter.com/shibitobans

Just random nonsensical tweets with Yo.

Someone should alert Columbia Records about Deadman's copyright infringing.

You can also check Deadman's Instagram Comments. He didn't take down his remix from platforms from Spotify just because of people calling him a thief on Youtube or from Touhou Fans. He is actually trying to get his remix up on Spotify and he doesn't know why it is getting taken down.
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>>22063142
>Someone should alert Columbia Records about Deadman's copyright infringing.
Yeah, you for example, instead of dumping this autism hoping someone else will do this.
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I frequently browse reddit when at work because I 4chan is blocked. This autists posts exactly like reddit. All their posts are walls of texts.
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>>22063228
This post reeks of retardation, not only you're too stupid to bypass firewall, but also has something against post longer than a few sentences. I wish you had 4chan blocked at home as well. And no, I'm not defending double spacing autist.
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This white nigger is literally not even worth ZUN's time. Why not get a clue from Shibayan's response and chill the fuck out?
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>>22062863
it's a single chord progression repeated on and on
maybe if it was more but jesus christ
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>>22063283
My booth is in full view of everyone Im not going to browse 4chan accept on my phone. Its not posts that are more than a few sentences. Its posts with a fuck ton of links and sentences that are just fucking autistic.
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It is a bit strange for people on /jp/ to complain about autism when /jp/ created many of 4chan's most famous copypasta aka kopipe which were not intended to be copypasta in the first place and there is serious discussion of onaholes that have took place for years on this board.
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>>22063583
There's really nothing autistic about onaholes, normalfag. People masturbate, onaholes are a unique way of masturbating.
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>>22051103
>>22051187
>>22051194
>Mob Psycho Avatar
>Types like a low IQ Ape
>This shit got 6X more cause i stole the beat and never credited da artist
>Other low IQ apes follow because they are really this retarded.
>Think that Japanese people will never notice along with other people who follow Japanese music
Fuck man it never ends.
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>>22058404
>>22058469
>>22058552
The only thing that can come of this is just a threat to Youtube and various stations to take down the songs due to copyright infringement. They will most likely take it down due to DMCA and various other claims. This is not the first ever case in history of that happening.
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>>22063142
>>22063128
Not bad getting this info out. Ignore the phoneposting faggot probably Deadmans pet monkey.
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>>22058345
Tell me about it. They think it's rebel culture and it opposes some normalfag idealogy. They can not make any art that comes from within but only steal. I hate how my country is becoming worse and unoriginal as time has gone on and is getting more Chinese tier in terms of creativity.
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>>22065021
Deadman even ripped the entire ending song of an animated hentai titled "Tinderbox" which had only 2 episodes, added Kenshiro's catchphrase and a simple drum beat, and then uploaded onto his channel and also says people who want to purchase this "remix" to please message him at his gmail address.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufKcg84mKo

He's even willing to steal from animated hentai soundtracks. I know most people who watch hentai never bother watching the ending credits but most hentai fans will at least recognize hentai EDs even if they are not as mainstream as normal anime OPs and EDs. I remember people on 4chan are quite found of soundtracks from AliceSoft and the Asagi Series. Anyways, yeah, this guy just ripped Tinderbox Hentai ED and then suddenly gained around 180 thousand views and he dares to sell the "beat" he created.

I seen google search results reveal DLsite or Getchu sometimes gets google to censor hentai links but like you think this particular upload from Deadman will get claimed by DLsite? Getchu?

Delving deeper, Tinderbox Hentai was from Queen Bee, part of Media Bank.

https://www.mediabank.co.jp/label.php?id=22

If he is already ripping animated hentai soundtracks, it is only a matter of time he starts checking out soundtracks from visual novels to steal. I don't think there is anything he wouldn't illegally sample anymore. He just hopes since the source material isn't Japanese, he won't get fucked by copyright notices
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>>22065066
Deadman just copied and pasted Renge from Non Non Biyori as his Album Cover. Didn't even bother using MSPaint to draw something for his Cover.
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>>22065334
And the longer he keeps it up the higher the risk of the absolute shit getting sued out of him rises. With how frequently he does it with such a wide variety of sources someones going to bring the hammer down eventually and no doubt the rest of his plagiarism will be put on display when that time comes.
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>>22065334
Just to let you know. You may want to use Freezepage or Archive.is for future reference just in case he deletes his stuff. Then you can send the links to ZUN or whoever will be sueing on behalf of this guy. You know of YouTube-dl right? You can download those videos before he takes them down and make an archive to send. This low IQ Zoomer makes my blood boil. Absolutely zero creativity.
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>>22065485
It can happen. The funny thing is you can claim fair use but that is only if you had permission or the song does not sound EXACTLY like the other one. You can not make money off of someone else's work in America if you do. You can easily get sued out of everything. Those cases are easily close and shut especially with all the evidence that is piling up.
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>>22065945
You can't claim fair use when your purpose is entirely commercial. Fair use is reserved for research, teaching, commentary, critique and the like.
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Its a /jp/ gets invaded and a new general appears episode. Fuck this shit.
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>>22065334
Why are your sentence structure like that of a neet newfag?
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i'm starting to get already dead cover recommendations. someone stop this already please it hurts.
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>>22066291
Half of the posts in the thread are calling OP retarded and to wait, and the other half are just one guy.
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tl;dr intellectual property bullshit no one cares and no one should ever give a fuck about
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>>22067057
Yeah, fuck personal property! Praise communism!
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>>22067057
>>22039182
>Nobody cares bro
Why post then you dumb faggot?
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>>22067182
>>22067252
just let shibayan handle it you dumbfucks
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>>22065485
If you check his YouTube channel, Deadman entirely ripped Minecraft music, Runescape music, a SpongeBob Squarepants song: Gary Come Home, Bleach - Ending 2 : Thank You!! song, Undertale music, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders OST - Fire Shaman, Lisa Ono (小野リサ, Ono Risa, born July 29, 1962), a popular Japanese-Brazilian bossa nova singer.

So, basically Microsoft, Jagex, Nickelodeon, Shueisha, some Japanese woman born from Brazil, will be involved with this guy in the future as well.
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>>22067252
To tell you to fuck off, presumably? What are you, retarded? You've never had people tell you "shut up, no one cares" before?

And hell, I do care, but not enough to be a fucking crazy autist about it.
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>>22063128
They're completely blinded by money. Deadman, the labels, radio stations and online music stores will try to get as much money as possible and it won't stop until they face legal trouble.
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>>22067519
I am not the one posting the entire thread there is 60 different posters that have. But you make assumptions and have a low IQ to show for it. Take your own advice Tyrone.
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>>22067498
Just send the YouTube links to the proper record companies and parties. Let them handle it.
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>>22070024
Half of those posters are me because dynamic ip
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>>22070024
>Take your own advice Tyrone.
What?
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>>22036695
https://twitter.com/FinalBossu/status/1172892879963983872

I'm sure that @ColumbiaRecords would love to know that you're plagiarizing music. Go away, crawl back to your cesspit.
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yo
@shibitobans
16h16 hours ago

I made a beat and got the sample I used cleared by the artist who made the song. I already told them about the whole situation when I met with them.
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Accela
@FinalBossu
16h16 hours ago

1. Adding a lazy beat over a song is hardly "sampling"
2. You're going against ZUN's guidelines for distributing Touhou music.
3. You've been illegally ripping music from other countless sources as seen on your YouTube channel.

You're a talentless hack, get over yourself.
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yo
@shibitobans
15h15 hours ago

Kanye West samples all the time and is considered one of the most talented people in music. Also, Boom and I contacted ZUN a few days ago. We're currently waiting for a response. Neither one of us knew about ZUN's policies until very recently.
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yo
@shibitobans
15h15 hours ago

We thought that Shibayan's permission was enough. Along with this, make sure to check in with Sille, lastclass, and Alobe to make sure they've followed ZUN's guidelines. And to wrap it up, sampling is one of the most common practices in the type beat landscape.
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yo
@shibitobans
15h15 hours ago

Why only target me when there are thousands doing the exact same thing,?
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Accela
@FinalBossu
15h15 hours ago

Adding a beat over a song isn't the same as sampling. Anyone who does that crap is lazy. And it's funny how you were all too happy to start selling your shit everywhere right off the bat and only started to ask for permission after you got caught.
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yo
@shibitobans
15h15 hours ago

Got caught by who though? I had the original song in the description for about a month before United claimed Shibayan's upload. I talked to Shibayan back in August and they didn't have a problem with it and knew about the beat a week before it was down the first time.
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Accela
@FinalBossu
15h15 hours ago

"Oh yeah I know this song isn't original but I'm just gonna hand it over to some music distributor anyways before even making an attempt to contact the original artists or spend two seconds looking into source material"
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yo
@shibitobans
15h15 hours ago

Other people literally do the exact same thing you just said all the time. I actually did look for Shibayan's contact info but couldn't find it at first and I didn't know about Touhou Project a couple weeks ago.
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Accela
@FinalBossu
Replying to @shibitobans

All of that information could easily be found two seconds on Google. And if you really couldn't find it, then you shouldn't have tried to commercialize it in the first place until you got all that crap sorted out.

>Deadman doesn't seem to understand that sampling always requires legal clearance and that Kanye West has gotten sued plenty of times for sampling without legal clearance and has lost many times when he got sued but unlike Deadman, Kanye can afford lawyers.

>Just google search "Kanye West sample lawsuit". Kanye West has lost many times and paid out thousands of dollars to the plaintiffs.

I guess we can now see why Deadman doesn't seem to understand why people call him a thief. His idol seems to be Kanye West after all.

Also, Deadman has a habit of deleting his tweets so who knows if this tweet will stay up.
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>>22077652
>Kanye West is considered one of the most talented people in music
Oh man that's a good one, thanks for the laugh Deadman.

So apparently they have contacted ZUN themselves. I wonder what they wrote, something like "hey can we license doujin musics and sell them on every distribution platfoms" maybe?
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>>22077652
>FinalBossu

Oh hey that me
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>>22078170
If only we could see their face when ZUN says No.
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>>22078170
They know zero Japanese and were communicating with Shibayan Records with google translate.
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>>22077652
>Why only target me
He said, apparently oblivious that other people also got into trouble over shit like this, it's just usually settled silently unless some big names got involved.
So he's not just a talentless hack, he's completely ignorant to boot.
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Between Cannonball and that, I feel like this might be the end of the doujin spirit for Touhou. Maybe I should jump off the boat before normalfags ruin everything. I really feel like this is a betrayal from ZUN and Shibayan.
What's gonna be the new doujin sensation? Can there even be such a thing in today's over-commercialized society?
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>>22078669
I feel like Shibayan honestly acted too much like an idiot in this situation and doesn't realize he acts as a representative of the Touhou Doujin Music Scene and how he handled this, may cause other groups to go underground because they don't want to be taken advantage of like Shibayan Records.
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>>22078669
There is so much retarded with this post I don't know where to begin.
>Between Cannonball and that, I feel like this might be the end of the doujin spirit for Touhou.
Cannonball isnt even an official game and will have light gacha at best. ZUN is only giving some guidance to the project to do his best in making sure it isn't a typical scummy gacha game. Not to mention a big part of Cannonball is letting doujin circles contribute art, music, etc. to the game. I know its actually a minority of people even on this board but the mindset of "Mobile game bad, Touhou ruined" needs to fucking stop already.
>Maybe I should jump off the boat before normalfags ruin everything.
This kinda reminds me of how some people reacted to when ZUN started putting his games and allowing fangames on Steam. Touhou is already mainstream and already infected with normies. If Touhou no longer being "obscure" or "niche" (which it hasn't been for a while) is enough to make you leave then you weren't much of a fan to being with.
>I really feel like this is a betrayal from ZUN and Shibayan.
Fuckin how? In terms of Cannoball, allowing mobile games was inevitable due to how much the Japanese love them. Japanese fans are looking forward to it, so even if you aren't its not like the game is being made with you in mind anyway. In terms of this whole debacle, you cannot seriously tell me that you're going to begrudge ZUN for not doing anything when he probably isn't even aware of the situation and/or doesn't understand what exactly is going on. Same for Shibayan. Shibayan also probably wasn't aware of the weight the decision to let them use the song had and even still might not understand just how out of control it has gotten. Regardless though, the Japanese fanbase doesn't seem to really care because a Touhou thing became popular and they're happy with that. They obviously aren't aware that almost everyone listening isn't aware its a Touhou remix to begin with, which is unfortunate. Still, it should give you an idea of the general mindset that the Japanese fanbase has. They just want to see Touhou flourish.
>What's gonna be the new doujin sensation?
Fate. Which, by the way, is also very mainstream and commercialized to hell. Doujin has changed my dude. If anything was going to kill Touhou, it would be ZUN ignoring the changing landscape.

>>22078684
When there is a language barrier and the goons are using google translate to communicate how can we even be sure that Shibayan understood everything to being with? And even if Shibayan was shortsighted the demonizing needs to stop.
>may cause other groups to go underground because they don't want to be taken advantage of like Shibayan Records.
Why? The Japanese literally don't care dude. Something that everyone in this thread keeps forgetting. A Touhou song getting remixed and becoming popular in the west is not going to influence circle at all (if anything in might encourage them). If, for some reason, theft of Touhou doujin music did ramp of from this (which is actually pretty doubtful, given the lightning in a bottle this situation was), doujin circles and ZUN would absolutely start doing something about it. As of right now its a tempest in a teapot and everyone should just chill out.
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As long as /jp/ isn't namedropped I guess its fine but this is really autistic.
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>>22078669
>>22078684
Why does Shibayan‘s decision even matter to other touhou circle? It’s not like they needs to follow his way if they are in his shoes.
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>>22078788
Seek help, mobage addict.
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>>22079929
I dont even play any mobage or even really like them. Im just tired of the doomposting and im trying to look at things as realistically as possible. The Japanese love them and a mobage isnt going to harm Touhou, which was my point.
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>>22077652
https://twitter.com/shibitobans

Deadman deleted the original tweet from his account because he didn't want anyone else to see someone from /jp/ owning him.

You have to click this link https://twitter.com/FinalBossu/status/1172892879963983872

to continue reading the chain of conversation between Deadman and FinalBossu
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>>22065334
Staff List for Tinderbox 1 & 2

https://siconime.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/Tinderbox 1

https://siconime.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/Tinderbox%202
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>>22080975
I bet there were people saying the same about FGO.
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>>22084124
FGO didn't harm Fate at all. In fact FGO is what made it relevant and is the reason behind its now thriving doujin community. Whether or not it harmed the overall quality of the franchise is up for debate but even assuming it did then that falls on the fact that FGO is an official product. Cannonball is not.
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>>22084410
>FGO didn't harm Fate at all.
Thanks for making it clear that your posts aren't worth reading.
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Are you guys still on this shit? Fuck off nerds.
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>>22082168
He keeps deleting his Tweets every time I go on there to make fun of him. I can't believe he hasn't blocked me yet.
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>>22084480
Good job not reading the rest of my post. I don't care much for Fate or gacha but you cannot seriously say that FGO isn't the reason the series is flourishing. Did it harm its overall quality? Maybe, but again that due to it being official. Perhaps saying FGO did no harm at all was incorrect but it but it certainly did more good than harm for the franchise in the grand scheme of things. Especially in terms of community.
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Did this little faggot get sued yet?
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>>22078170
Obviously they lied. Why would anyone out to make a profit not fudge the truth a little in order to get the answer they want?
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>>22084593
Honestly, Nintendo should hook up ZUN with their famous Nintendo lawyers.

That way, nobody would fuck with ZUN or Touhou Property ever again.

In fact, ZUN should ask the Nintendo Yakuza to rough up that stranger that trademarked Touhou Project and Team Shanghai Alice away from ZUN.
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>>22084654
>stranger that trademarked Touhou Project and Team Shanghai Alice away from ZUN.

???
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>>22084486
Its literally 1 or 2 people constantly trying to stir up trouble. Its american zoomers ruining it for everyone.
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>>22084662
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-07-04/touhou-project-linked-trademarks-upheld-for-non-creator
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>>22084684
What a load of shit. Maybe this is why Shibayan doesn't care.
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>>22084711
We don't know what happened after because ZUN didn't mention updates.

This is what set ZUN off and why we started seeing more Touhou products on like Nintendo.

The panel of examiners basically said ZUN didn't commercialize Touhou Project enough and offered enough different consumer goods for them to reject that stranger's trademark.
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>>22084711
Shibayan feels like he doesn't care because he knows he handed the problem over to ZUN instead of being a good gatekeeper and maintaining the copyright strike against Deadman and Lil Boom.

Like I am surprised these two haven't been banned off of Youtube yet or sued into the ground. They don't even hide their copyright infringement. Lil Boom appears to have an album that uses unmodified soundtracks from Nintendo video games while he just raps over them. And their braindead fans seem to think they did nothing wrong.
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>>22084733
So we don't know if ZUN got the trademark still?
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>>22084751
>>22084733
>>22084711
>>22084684
Official Japanese government website to search for trademarks and other stuff. They offer an English version of the site

https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/

Looks like ZUN actually used his own money to have to buy his own trademark back.

Google Touhou Project and Team Shanghai Alice in Japanese.

It shows ZUN's real name.
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>>22084751
>>22084829
Yeah, don't worry, ZUN got his trademark back. I wonder how much money he paid, though
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Have you guys ever seen a more picky, nosy contact page than Khara's contact page.

Like seriously, what the fuck.

https://www.khara.co.jp/contact/
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Why isn't this thread dead yet
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>>22084840
Until we see 404s on the websites selling Deadman and Lil Boom's remixes.
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>>22084840
The autist is autistic.
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>>22084839
Studio Khara is a bunch of pretentious fags, what did you expect?
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>>22036695
http://web.archive.org/web/20190501000000*/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejv0Gk-mGko

Luckily wayback machine exists but unfortunately not before the year 2019 for Deadman's youtube video.
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>>22084832
>>all the other anons mentioned ZUN
Sorry, ZUN has no right to sue deadman and deadman doesn't need to follw touhou's rules.
This is how copyright works: if someone use your work in his own work with your permission and following your rule, then you hold the right of the specific part he use your works and the rest belongs to him (which means he can license it as long as it's not against your deal).

The inter was the only part that Shibayan used yuuka's theme (which ZUN hold his right) but deadman didn't sample it.
Picture related is the copyright status of these two song (Assuming Shibayan, milka, 3L hold their right separately).

Although, deadman already got Shibayan's permission but whoever use Omae Wa Mou (like lil boom) still needs to follows ShibayanRecords's rule since they still hold the right of it.
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>>22090196
fuk, where's my pic.
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>>22090196
>>22090201
You forgot Deadman using Non Non Biyori's Renge as his Album Cover.
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>>22090196
>>22090201
We don't know if Deadman actually received Shibayan's permission.

On Shibayan's YouTube, he included a link to ZUN's blog and told people to follow ZUN's rules. You can check Shibayan's youtube channel yourself.

So what happens when Shibayan also tells people who remix or sample his songs to follow ZUN's rules? He actually linked ZUN's blogs and also warned people that ZUN has also made comments regarding Touhou copyright that must be followed.
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>>22090218
>We don't know if Deadman actually received Shibayan's permission.
he did.
https://twitter.com/yaaaaaan/status/1162735429826650113
And he also said that if you are doing remix or mashup that is unrelated to touhou just relex and buy touhou on steam.
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>>22058552
Deadman 死人:

1) KKBox: https://www.kkbox.com/sg/en/album/gxPUHNZHzDKy10F3clyN009H-index.html#1

2) SoundCloud:

https://soundcloud.com/user-402568180/lil-boom-already-dead-omae-wa-mou-instrumental-prod-deadman

https://soundcloud.com/shibitobans/reptilelegit-already-dead-minecraft-parody

3) Tidal: https://tidal.com/browse/album/116275822

4) UnitedMasters: https://unitedmasters.com/deadman/r/omae-wa-mou/AtVh4Nxz5HhT

Lil Boom:

1) KKbox: https://www.kkbox.com/sg/en/song/YEM00450pLo6GfSq6GfSq0XL-index.html

2) Tidal: https://tidal.com/browse/album/116107696

3) UnitedMasters:
https://unitedmasters.com/lil-boom/r/already-dead/ABWbyZW9ciwE

Apparently, the music distribution of Deadman and Lil Boom's Tiny Little Adiantum remixes is not stopping. Deadman and Lil Boom's Tiny Little Adiantum remixes now appears for sale in Taiwan from a Taiwanese music streaming service but then you read the basic company description of KKBox and your heart sinks:

KKBox, stylised as KKBOX is a music streaming service developed by KKBox Inc., a software company in Taipei, Taiwan from 2004. It is a part of Japanese Telecom Group, KDDI. The service area mainly targeting the music market of Southeast Asia, focusing on regions including: Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, etc.

I guess China, Russia, and India were not enough for Deadman and Lil Boom. They want to sell their Tiny Little Adiantum remixes to Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, and the rest of Southeast Asia. At this point, the two individuals are selling their Tiny Little Adiantum remixes to the entire world at this point
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>>22090252
Permission to sample is not the same thing as permission to license though. You need to get written legal permissions from all copyright holders involved. Lawyers are usually involved with this.

I think Shibayan may have originally confused Deadman and Lil Boom as just another Touhou Doujin Group and already knew about ZUN's Copyright Guidelines.
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Shibayan killed Touhou
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>>22090374
Shibayan kinda did. If he just maintained the copyright strike against them, Deadman and Lil Boom would not have immediately sold their Tiny Little Adiantum to UnitedMasters.

There is a reason why Toby Fox of Undertale eventually released copyright guidelines when pretty much he was trying to be even more lenient than ZUN but it backfired because American fanbases are less respectful than Japanese fanbases and their greediness caused Toby Fox to finally release copyright guidelines for Undertale back in 2016.

It feels like Shibayan underestimated Deadman and Lil Boom and how far the two were willing to commercialize and did not do enough research by checking their YouTube channels for example and realize Deadman and Lil Boom, appear to have a history of copyright infringement and long time due for a channel termination by Youtube, and it would be best to just not associate with those people at all and politely decline their appeals against their copyright strike.
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>>22090443
>>22090374
Let's just calm down here, okay? Okay. Touhou isn't dead and if this starts becoming a recurring thing ZUN will step in. It's annoying but can't be helped
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>>22090374
>>22090443
Doomposting cunts really need to stop. This is the exact definition of making a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said im glad people are passionate about this but the overreaction from you retards has gotten out of control.
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>>22090790
>>22090443
>>22036695
I honestly think we should panic. This entire situation is starting to remind me of Harmony Gold: Robotech/ Macross clustefuck that also includes Studio Nue, Big West, and Tatsunoko.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony_Gold_USA

Studio Nue, Big West, and Tatsunoko hate each other so much due to this Harmony Gold clusterfuck that Tatsunoko gave a middle finger to everyone by extending Harmony Gold's license of the Macross franchise because Big West won their last lawsuit against Tatsunoko.

Even Japan was shocked that Harmony Gold somehow got to extend its license on Macross/Robotech, especially Hidetaka Tenjin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidetaka_Tenjin

>Hidetaka Tenjin (天神 英貴 Tenjin Hidetaka, born 1973) is a Japanese mecha anime artist and science fiction illustrator.

>He established the Tenjin Studio Ltd. where he began working on plastic model box art, video game software and DVD cover art, illustrations, etc., the best known being in the Hasegawa Macross series, the Bandai MG Gundam series, Konami's Gradius V videogame, Space Battleship Yamato Fact File illustrations, etc.

>Tenjin Hidetaka has also worked as an animation artist in several sci-fi anime productions like Macross Zero, Sousei no Aquarion, Gundam Evolve, Macross Frontier and Macross Delta

https://twitter.com/TENJIN_hidetaka/status/1147418895562625025

I'm legitimately and genuinely afraid Deadman, Lil Boom, and UnitedMasters end up becoming the Harmony Gold for the Touhou Community/Fandom. No joke. And it all happened because Shibayan Records acted as retarded as the Macross producers when dealing with Americans aka Harmony Gold for the first time and fucked over the Macross franchise for the past several decades and even now into the future.

>In November 2016, Harmony Gold initiated arbitration against Tatsunoko, to which Tatsunoko responded with counterclaims.[23] With the exception of the original visual depictions of 41 characters, which are owned by Big West Advertising not Tatsunoko, the arbitrator found that Harmony Gold had the rights to Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross, and Genesis Climber MOSPEADA until their expiry on March 14, 2021, as per the licensing agreement. Harmony Gold also holds several trademarks related to Macross and its trademark for the Macross series was renewed on December 26, 2012. The expiration date for these was set to take place ten years from that date, on December 26, 2022.[24]

>On July 5, 2019, Harmony Gold confirmed that their license with Tatsunoko had been renewed again, extending their ownership of the Macross franchise's co-copyright past the original 2021 expiration date. While a specific number of years wasn't given for the length of this extension, Harmony Gold chairman Frank Agrama stated that the company will "look forward to the next 35 years of working with Tatsunoko and world class business partners on Robotech.

Imagine Deadman, Lil Boom, and United Masters blocking a Touhou product in America or any place outside Japan just like Harmony Gold does with Macross all because Shibayan Records went full sympathetic retard toward people he thought were fellow Touhou fans who understand and respect ZUN's copyright guidelines except Deadman and Lil Boom don't even know Japanese or ever heard of Touhou Project until they copystriked Shibayan Records and many Touhou fans' videos on Youtube and earned the hatred of the Touhou fandom.
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Also, not the first time Americans took advantage of the Japanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asics

>Nike, Inc., originally known as Blue Ribbon Sports, was founded to sell Onitsuka Tiger shoes in the US. When Phil Knight visited Japan in 1963 shortly after he graduated from Stanford University, he was impressed by Onitsuka Tiger shoes with their high quality but reasonable prices. He immediately visited the Onitsuka Tiger office and asked to be their sales agent in the USA.[10] After a number of years, their relationship crumbled and both companies sued each other, with Nike retaining the naming rights to several shoes.

Imagine getting sued by the American sales agents you hired and he plagiarized your shoe designs and you couldn't drag out the battle in court to appeals court because it was costing you time and money to battle this backstabbing American outside Japan.
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For fuck's sake mate, CALM THE FUCK DOWN. There is a point where it's "too much" and you've clearly went past that and then some.
Like, there's nothing else you can do anyway (legally speaking), so why be overly urgent.
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>>22090986
>>22091010
Again, you're blowing this way out of proportion. Even if they ended up with the exclusive rights to Shibayan's one song somehow (which isnt going to happen unless Shibayan literally signs over the rights) it would in no way effect Touhou as a whole. This is all still just one Cease and Desist away from being a non issue entirely.
If you anything about copyright law you will know that this is literally not going to be a problem.
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>>22091362
Just let him bump the thread to bumplimit so we can all safely ignore the third genreal thread he tries to force of this topic.
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There's no doubt that the situation is shitty, and that these niggers deserve to get my massive 25 cm dick in the asscrack as a lesson. But you retards who think that the doujin scene is dead, or whatever you keep being autistic about, should just fuck off as well.
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>>22092145
>25cm
proofs?
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>>22058404
Whoa, Deadman literally dared to copyright his remix according to Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Omae-Wa-Mou-deadman-%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%BA/dp/B07WZB9CFX/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=deadman+%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%BA&qid=1568770922&s=dmusic&search-type=ss&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/Omae-Wa-Mou-Clean/dp/B07X2CLFPV/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=deadman+%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%BA&qid=1568770922&s=dmusic&search-type=ss&sr=1-2

Original Release Date: September 22, 2017
Release Date: August 26, 2019
Label: deadman 死人
Copyright: ℗© 2017: deadman 死人

Same goes for Lil Boom, according to Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Already-Dead-Explicit/dp/B07WX6J9WS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1IX0TR8EUWY5D&keywords=lil+boom+already+dead&qid=1568771046&sprefix=lil+boom%2Caps%2C219&sr=8-1

Original Release Date: August 23, 2019
Release Date: August 23, 2019
Label: BodyPillowGang LLC
Copyright: ℗© 2019: Lil Boom
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Jesus, I agree there's no need to doompost or sperg about the situation
But I am really mad for what those brats are doing, I want to see their sorry asses dragged to court and forced to refund more money than what they can even earn in their whole life.
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Touhou Bossa Nova was a mistake.
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>>22090307
>Permission to sample is not the same thing as permission to license though.
By default, they are the same thing unless you make a statement like what disney did "all copyright must be transferred to our company or your license to create a secondary work using our property will be void."
A tweet ,a blog post or a youtube comment has the same legal effect as a contract as long as it explain the conditions clear enough.
That being said, I do agree deadman didn't permissions from all copyright holders involved. he should have contacted 3L, milka, the animation company made fist of the north star and even the author of non non biyuri's renge.

>>22094567
Read >>22090196 and>>22090201
deaman and lil boom can copyright their songs as long as they clear the copyright.
However, they only own what their made originally.
Deadman owns his recording, beats and the specific way of sampling Tiny Little Adiantum (maybe, I'm not sure if it's unique enough to claim copyright.)
Lil boom owns his recording and rap lyrics.
The rest belongs to the original creaters. When someone uses or remixes Already dead, he or she still needs to follow Shibayan's rules.
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Again, america ruins another beautiful thing in the world. I really wish the country disintegrates already and all americans die.
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>>22095221
I just checked Shibayan's youtube comment and he pretty much said to also follow ZUN's guidelines so if even Shibayan, himself, is telling people to follow ZUN's rules, what does that mean for Deadman and Lil Boom?
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The fact remains Deadman and Lil Boom put up their remixes for sales on sites like Amazon despite not getting permission from all copyright holders and don't even have the decency to take everything down until they do get permission.It's not like they are telling possible customers from all over the world to not buy their remixes until they solve all legal problems.

Also, just check Deadman's YouTube channel. Taking from Shibayan Records is not some rare occurrence from his behavior. I can see ripping or sampling from Undertale music, Runescape music, Minecraft music, Spongebob Squarepants (Gary Come Home), Bleach anime (Bleach ED 2: Thank You from Home Made Kazoku), JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Stardust Crusaders OST (Fire Shaman) , Evangelion's version of "Fly me to the Moon" which was used as its ED, Bakemonogatari anime (Bakemonogatari OP 1: Staple Stable), a Japanese Brazilian singer named Lisa Ono who released a song named "Menina Flor" back in 1993; a Malaysian singer named Joyce Chu who sang "I Miss You", Nintendo Wii Music ( Mii Channel Full Arrangement ), etc. It's highly doubtful all these Japanese and Western companies gave legal clearance for Deadman to sample their intellectual property and these are not obscure companies but big names like Microsoft (Minecraft), Nickelodeon (Spongebob), Viz Media (Bleach, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure), Crunchyroll (most anime properties), Aniplex of America (Bakemonogatari), Khara and King Records Japan (Evangelion), Nintendo (Mii Channel Music by Kazumi Totaka ), etc

It's a wonder Deadman's Youtube channel has not been terminated yet by Youtube or by multiple copyright strikes from right holders. And he still has the balls to call himself a producer.

Seems Deadman actually got interviewed back in 2017 and Rolling Stone's 2019 interview was not his first time interview.

https://curatedflame.com/2017/12/23/beats-interview-with-hip-hop-producer-deadman/

>What is something about you people would be surprised to know?
>Even though I use one a quote from an anime as a my producer tag, I really don’t find myself watching too much anime.

>What do your beats normally cost?
>It honestly depends on how good I find them to be. While one beat could be $5, another could be upwards of $50. It just depends.

>What is the most you have made from one beat?
>About $10.

>Do you use Hardware or software?
>I use a pirated version of FL Studio 12 to produce my music.

>How many leases or beats, do you think you have sold in your career?
>I’ve sold 1 beat so far.

>what are your plans for 2018?
>To work hard and continue producing until I get where I wanna be career wise.

Reminder, according to Rolling Stone, Deadman "put “Omae Wa Mou” up for sale on September 22, 2017 as a “Lil Boom x anime”-type beat. Roughly three months later, the actual Lil Boom —... — bought the beat for $25. He turned it into a song titled “Already Dead.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/the-worst-best-day-of-my-life-how-a-song-went-viral-then-suddenly-disappeared-871991/

So Deadman's "remix" or "beat" he made from Shibayan Records' Tiny Little Adiantum was only worth $25 based on Deadman's estimation of how good "Tiny Little Adiantum" was. Based on his old 2017 interview, Deadman considers his best "beats" to be worth $50 or more so the fact he thought his "Tiny Little Adiantum" beat was worth just $25, shows he actually thought his "Omae wa Mou" was just average which is why that nauseating interview Deadman did with Rolling Stone in 2019, shows how that "affection" Deadman was claiming for Shibayan Records was pretty much manufactured.
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Im amazed and at the same time deeply annoyed that there is a new general over fucking nothing and is basically half a dozen or maybe less people building a fucking mountain out of a small speck of dust. This is retarded and autistic. Do you cunts really have so much free time to be so autistic here of all fucking places? Why not go shit up some other board with your crap. No even in /a/ can you find such fucking austism. The only place I can think of where posts like the ones in this thread are made are in fucking /pol/ back when stormfront was doing their best to fuck the site up. Fucking pieces of shit all of you.
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>>22096492
>Do you cunts really have so much free time to be so autistic here of all fucking places?
Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>22095339
can't disagree with that
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>>22095339
4 planes weren't enough
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>everyone keeps saying wait for ZUN to make his moves
>he hasn't done shit
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>>22098114
Nothing good will ever happen.
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>>22098114
Shibayan Records' response to this whole situation makes me feel he is either a naive idiot or a communist.

If he really is okay with plagiarizing and profiting off of his work, then people should spread the word so singers like 3L and writers like milka stop working with him because he didn't really protect the group's brand and image.

I been checking his twitter and all he does is post emoticons all the time. Even the Japanese female artists I follow on twitter don't tweet like middle schoolers 24/7 compared to Shibayan.
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>>22099473
That's given since japanese rarely bitching doomposting on their SNS unlike the entitled drama queen westerner.
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Let this never become another fucking general thread.
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>>22098114
If he knows, then he doesn't see this as urgent as the schizo in this thread. That means we can probably stop making this kinda shit. Please.



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