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New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Learn:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.html
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/sakubi.html
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Rules: No e-celeb faggotry.
前スレ: >>21166398
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So are the study hours estimates for each JLPT level accurate in your experience?
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>>21174320
no. no hours estimate is going to be useful, just learn Japanese and worry about stuff like this when you're ready
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https://jsfiddle.net/pbL26rt9/1/embedded/result
aozora formatting subset/dialect to HTML Ruby. someone on Reddit was asking for a fucking hotkey to insert html for them instead of just asking for a better formatting tool of some sort. i don't actually use Reddit so here you guys go here's what i made today. just as useless as my life.
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>>21174282
what game
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凄ゲイ
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X 日本語
O 漢語
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>>21174282
Stop making new threads while there's already one up, fucking newfag crossboarder.

The current thread isn't even on page 10 yet and will survive for hours still.
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おちんちんは悪いことではない
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>>21174916
Calm down autism. 1100 replies is close enough.
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>>21175001
At the current rate it's half a day from disappearing.

I'm sure you can make another thousand shitposts in that thread before it goes.
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>>21175001
That's how it's done. Shouldn't have to tell you.
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>>21175038
That girl looks like my ex that I still love and I don't want to learn japanese anymore because of you
Back to spanish
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>>21175044
Your ex is pretty fugly.
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I wish I could at least read sentences of kana, but this grammar is fucking my shit. Even in English I sucked with particles and verbs and adverbs, objects of verbs, subjects, etc.
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>>21175085
>particles
>English
wot
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>>21175089
Particles are in English. Never heard of a dangling participle?
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Why is this thread up? Anyway, fun little thing I saw yesterday:

あわよくば (うまくゆけば。好機に会えば。)
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looking for manga by
>Maruo Suehiro
all I was able to find were translations and みどり

any sites where I could possibly find something like this?
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黒人は嫌いだ
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>>21175201
黒人たちは超人だ
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ケーキが超大好き
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Keep fighting the good fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf9m4cRMVJw
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I never consciously thought about this but 痕 having the kun-reading it has makes perfect sense if you think about it.
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おはようdjtちゃんたちs
あたしはロリが好き
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>>21175201
劣等種んです
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The quiz is the most accurate (and least detrimental to your anonymity) tool for determining who is a shitter and who isn't and maybe I'm being obnoxious about it but someone has to keep people aware that this thread is inhabited by nothing but beginners.

https://streamable.com/zm165
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>>21175380
承知
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>>21175400
lets be real if you actually need to ask and take advice from random people in this thread you're not even high functioning and you will never get good anyways.
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sabishisa no bangers
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>>21175422
>also can't reveal his voice in a recording
Nobody on 4chan should be expected to reveal their voice on a recording for literally fucking anything.
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>>21175422
Fuck off and read the rules.
>No e-celeb faggotry.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFftJDXii0
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Anyone have any accurate chapter specific anki Tobira decks I could nab please? Or just a spreadsheet maybe? The official ones have cards missing and its a pain in the ass.

Also the mega link for the decks on the guide are broken.
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>>21175486
I hope this is in every OP from now until the end of DJ.
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Are these weird words in NHK News actual common words or newsy words? Stuff like 悲願、輩出、対象 just seem like very specialized words to me.
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>get into JAP cos you can't find translations of a lot of shit
>start learning JAP
>can't find actual raw materials in JAP either

I found a scanlating group to contact them about the original materials, but they have no contact to them
where do I find that shit, it's not on nyaa, not in the DJT library - it must be either on some private tracker for raw manga or maybe Japs have a site like that with manga?

looking for eroguro stuff
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Fapping and reading at the same time is difficult.
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>>21175735
Not as going 寸前止め through several chapters in a VN.
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>>21175579
they're common as fuck

git gud
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>>21175579
All super common so that even I knew them and I can't even speak Japanese.
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>>21175638
>looking for eroguro stuff
I was going to help you out but you need to absolutely neck yourself my man
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>>21175856
so you assumed im some sick fuck because im interested in reading it for whatever reason
remember that people may think the same about you browsing 4chan despite your good intentions
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The most important daily reminder: わたしはゲイ
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>>21175955
己はビ
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>>21175972
I meant バイ
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shitposting a word works better than anki
I remember when someone posted in every thread a tom&jerry pic and "と思う", if you're reading this, thank you for helping me memorize
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>>21175638
Scanlation groups usually don't share their scans anyway
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>>21175089
They don't function the same as in Japanese but basically almost every language has some grammar mechanism called particles.
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>>21175987
この谷には小さい祠がある
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How many cards had you gone through, when you realized it's a waste of time and dropped it?
For me it was after around 700.
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1.7k
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>>21174550
>he can't read
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Occasional reminder that you don't need to understand linguistics to have a valid understanding of language acquisition. It's perfectly valid to share your experiences with other people and make arguments based on incomplete knowledge as long as you don't step into pseudoscience. There are lots and lots of academics and armchair academics out there with strong opinions on things they have faulty understandings of, especially in linguistics. Life ain't a frat house.

Krashen is right though.
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nazeka epwing dictionaries from the last thread

https://mega.nz/#!NQ8E1AwA!N1mdThi8AsUEdhZ3yAz3E5vuiUxEAdprkyZm5KaoZ08
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>huge library in the guide
>no Nagatoro
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>>21175089
Japanese particles are almost all basically postpositions that are called particles because it's unclear whether or not they're binding to the last word of the phrase they attach to.

English has a bunch of prepositions that turn into particles when used in particle verbs, a special type of phrasal verb. It also has a few true particles, called such because they're grammatical function words that don't fall into any clear category and obviously aren't adverbs or conjunctions, like "not" and "to" (infinitive marker).

Basically >>21176127
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>>21176333
watch lots of japanese, read lots of japanese, make cards out of words you dont know while doing that

there i solved the riddle and if you disagree with this get gassed
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>>21176421
(mining technically optional even though it helps)
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>>21176251
20000 before I realized that I don't feel particularly enthusiastic about japanese media, so I switched to chinese. That was over ten years ago now.
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>>21176675
Chinese media must be way better!
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>>21176251
I do 20 minutes a day and it's good enough to spend exactly this amount of time on it.
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>>21176684
You'd be surprised at how the chinese language enables some pretty creative writing that just isn't possible with a language like Japanese.

Not to mention that the sheer amount of chinese media being produced almost guarantees that a large amount is high quality media. To be honest I only mastered japanese as something to do on the side as I studied for my university degree, I never actually cared much for the country or its' culture.
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>>21176699
>mastered japanese
You know the drill. Toradora dramatic reading now.
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you mean there's chinese media besides state propaganda, uncensored porn and state propaganda uncensored porn?
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>>21176713
I say "mastered" but I stopped after I got to kanji kentei level one. To be honest there are probably still some grammar points I wouldn't be able to wrap my head around.
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>>21176718

Well yeah, its called shit from Taiwan and shit from Hong Kong. Note that all Hong Kong dubs are shit. Seriously, for some reason, it is like they can only hire maybe six voice actors for any work and pretty much sound all the same.
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So, technically speaking, I could just learn japanese by learning hiragana and katakana, learning grammar and then just reading a lot of content in japanese, right?
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>>21176742
Pretty much. The best part about it is once you've laid the foundation all that otherwise meaningless anime is going to build your vocabulary and language skills instead of just going to shit as they do if you didn't understand the language.
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>>21176742
Yes, learning grammar takes more effort than people usually anticipate though. There's more patterns here than you initially might think.

However sometimes I'm not sure where people draw a distinction between what constitutes specific vocabulary use and a grammar point.

Realistically the most time goes into expanding vocabulary. On average people seem to underestimate grammar and overestimate Kanji in terms of effort and importance.
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>>21176742
if everything you read has furigana on everything, sure.

most things don't.
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>>21176783
Well you can always look up the readings in a dictionary
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mUhCtquQU

how's my Japanese?
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holy fuck that accent
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>>21176810
need to watch more anime/10
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ほしい??
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Yamato Nadeshiko means woman right?
So what does yamato and nadeshiko mean on its own? Nothing? All I’m getting is that they are names, but maybe Nadeshiko can stand on its own and mean the same thing?
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>>21176839
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_nadeshiko
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>en
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Question.

What Japanese dictionary app do you guys recommend?
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>>21176866
qolibri and JP-JP only
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>>21176839
just quit now
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>>21176839
I knew what was a yamato nadeshiko even before I started learning japanese.
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why cant i see anything other than dekinai here?
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Choose この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!for my first novel to read. What am I in for?
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>>21177091
you see yourself in dekinais
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What exactly does おマ〇コして mean?
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ファックユー
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2oCV2sM_ig
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>亡なくなりました

why is yomichan telling me its pronounced as 亡くなった

please explain
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>>21177250
i meant 亡くなりました
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look to the right retard
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>>21177270
i dun ge eet
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>polite past
if you can't correlate mashita with polite you haven't even wathed any anime what are you doing on this board
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>>21177287
I don't like anime I only read manga in english.
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wheres growlanser guy and nanarin guy how r u guys doing
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>>21177287
but why does the り becomes a る
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>>21177302
This is like one of the very first things covered in any grammar guide. What the fuck are you doing?
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>>21174282
haven't been here in over two years, what the fuck is with that layout for the new guide? the minimalist look of the old one was fine
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>>21177302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhyrskGBKHE&t=1s
Verb stems, watch your Dollys.
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>>21174535
I don't need it, but good work! Keep on going, anon :)
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>>21177308
They told me to read vns as soon as I finish learning my kanas.
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>>21177169
you know thats not true, right?
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Watch 東京独身男子 for secret techniques.
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oh no, itazuranigger has fucked with the site again.

and once again, he hasn't fixed a single problem with the design in the process.
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>>21177233
おマンコして
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>>21177326
he made the extra navigation more obvious, that's an improvement
it's obviously way more ugly but now there's also bigger cute girl in the background so that's cool
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>>21175522
Tobira offers official decks! You can get those here: http://tobiraweb.9640.jp/contents/漢字・語彙教材/とびらankiデジタルフラッシュカード/
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>>21175977
私はアセクシャル
Does that even work? Who knows
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>>21176866
App as in on PC? Tagaini Jisho and Takoboto.
On phone? I don't use one, so I can't help you with that.
On kindle I just installed JMDICT (https://github.com/jrfonseca/jmdict-kindle)
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>>21177317
that's a dude
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>>21177321
that's good
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>>21177336
>it's obviously way more ugly
so why didn't he just make drop down menus that appear on hover under the top links? his design decisions are just so baffling. and the navigation is still wrong because you have some grammar guides placed under "learn" and others under "grammar" for god only knows what reason.

not to mention those redundant, misleading "learn" and "read" links on the landing page. "learn" needs to be changed to "guide" since that's where it actually goes and "read" needs changing to "learning resources" or something since there's more than just manga and books there.
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>tfw had a date all day saturday and spent all of sunday recovering
>tfw just remembered to check anki
100% still worth it
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>>21177389
he really just needs an offline site generator. I'd make him one but I don't know the guy or what he wants out of his web design. his HTML and CSS are super bad but that's to be expected of anyone who hasn't been writing it for like a decade so it's not really a point against the guy
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How many hours of eng subbed anime do I require to reach N2?
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>>21177408
~700,000hrs in my experience
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>>21177408
idk dude i cant really give u an estimate of how many hours of eng subbed anime it takes to get to some arbitrary level of not knowing japanese sorry
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What kind of cards do you do and what's your answer time per card?
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>>21177456
v2k shit sorry I mean vncore
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Damn, I started reading angel beats and there's so much words I don't know...
I don't want to be a dekinai...
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>>21177550
get back to studying bro you're not ready to read yet
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>>21177550
just join the 野球部 and dont worry abotu shit : )

imagine readign angel beats and not understanding how bad maeda is at comedic relief lmao
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>>21177558
>>21177569
I somehow understand what they're talking about because I watched the anime when it came out and I remember everything but...
Back to studying, I guess...
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>>21177575
its not really like the anime tho other than obviously the main plot
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>>21177575
reading the same stuff you've watched seems like a good strategy
i was just kidding man studying is bullshit
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>>21177581
The beginning appears to be the same though. Maybe some new dialogues here and there.
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i watch anime with jp subs once, then i rewatch it with jp subs and english subs. will I make it bros
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>>21177598
english is useless
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english is actually good as hell in the beginning

if u throw away ur native language u have 0 chance of getting anywhere in another language by urself
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宇宙人
うちゅうじん
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ドラゴン
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黒人だらけ
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How do I ask a japanese guy if he is gay?
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>>21177691
お前はゲイですか
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>>21177691
anta homo desuka
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>>21177695
*ですね
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>>21177691
やらないか
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>>21177691
請問,你也是同志嗎
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One of these things is not like the other...
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>>21177712
china girl, geisha and gaijin
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>>21177707
its not gay to fuck
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>>21177720
it kind of is though mate
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>>21177712
the one on the left doesnt belong tell her u cant understand her and to go back to her country
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>>21177722
kind of isnt actually tho
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Still so many cards due. Life is hard.

>>21177777
This is a quote from the future.
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>>21177729
Just do German by reading/consuming content. Honestly. It shares the same alphabet and isn't that far from English.
Viel Erfolg!
Also what's inside of "ZZZ"?
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>>21177729
this is beyond drone status
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>>21177733
Decks I have no interest in maintaining presently, but which I may get around to at some point.
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>>21177729
Why are you doing that to yourself?
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>>21177722
>>21177728
actually i take it back https://streamable.com/atnby
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>>21177712
corrected a couple mondais for you m8
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https://jsfiddle.net/957x6vqw/embedded/result
https://jsfiddle.net/957x6vqw

there I fixed your HTML and CSS, now look in to offline site generators so you can make every single page look the same without manually rewriting them
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erm i dont need you to fix my html and css

https://streamable.com/yg0wk
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ここからは日本語禁止だよ
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>>21177778
bud that looks shit
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>>21177798
sauce
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>>21177807
yea it looks like shit it's what itazuraneko is trying to make it look like tho i'm just making it not broken
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>>21177778
Looks too simple.
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>>21177778
nice
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lmao kanji is a traiwreck. What a joke of a language.
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>>21177817
no bud it looks worse narrow the screen and see how yours falls apart
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>>21177837
kanji is easy
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>>21177798
Guess we write in romanji now.
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>>21177778
oh i'm missing a close div tag before <div id=bottomicon>, fix that

>>21177839
sorry i don't use phones
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フランスちゃん可哀想
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>>21177847
Reminds me of me crying because I suck and making proportions / positioning.
Add one element and everything is different.
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>>21177859
that usually just means that your html is too nasty/long to edit directly and you should be using a static site generator instead, not really your fault
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im reaching enlightenment on the anki question
>my sentence cards may as well be vocab cards cuz i don't read them
>definitions are pretty worthless as long as i know the pronunciation i'll probably find out the meaning through reading
seems like what khatz had in mind was taking your cards very seriously and spending hours on them when i wanna get done in 20 minutes
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>>21177875
You're going to make it.
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>>21177863
Yeah, it was my second time doing something with CSS and stuff, the first time were my anki cards ... and I was on a time limit I had NOT set for myself.
I'm going into a different area with design anyway, but I learnt a bunch of stuff doing it
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>>21177882
Just do what nippon does and make all your websites jpgs
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just put javascript to everything
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himouto
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itazuraneko is maintained by a shoshinsha? Must be a lot of work, seems like a lot of content.
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歳納様
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>>21177315
No. This layout is great. Minimalist is for teenage contrarians. Keep it up, webdesigner.
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>>21177895
and still no Nagatoro somehow.
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>>21177456
core 2k/6k optimized (I know vncore is better, but I like the quality native audio and the well made sentences of the 2k/6k deck).

answer time per card: 14 seconds, is it bad?
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https://jsfiddle.net/k7nfxvmr/embedded/result
https://jsfiddle.net/k7nfxvmr/embedded
there, now it responds to tiny screens, are you happy
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oh i guess i should remove the vertical margin on the central navigation on tiny screens lol
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>>21177456
RTK deck 80% done with avg answer time of 23.7 seconds
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https://jsfiddle.net/x2t540fz/embedded/result
there, that should be all
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Does 助ける sound like "DA su ke ru" for anyone else?
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>>21177980
Sounds like task-eru for me, with the 'u' in su dropped.
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>>21177980
you're looking for word-initial aspiration to indicate that the consonant is unvoiced, but this aspiration is optional in japanese, unlike english
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>>21177983
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>>21177983
yeah that actually happens good job you're hearing it properly
the s should feeits own syllable though like ta-ss-ke-ru
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honestly i'd set up my own neocities with the non-pirate stuff and keep the styling stable if i didn't feel like it would make itazuraneko feel like i'm trying to steal the site from him and make him either break again or stop working on collecting reading materials
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>>21177456
I currently do:
front: Kanji
Back: Kanji, picture with meaning I associate with the character, meanings of the kanji, example word with furigana.
Goal: Recall the meaning of the character.
Current answer time: 4.2sec, but I'm pretty new into the deck.
Pic related (back of card). It can be really funny sometimes.
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theres nothing funny about that u are fucked
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>>21177467
>>21177946
>>21177946
When I said "what kind of cards", I meant as in sentence, vocab, reading, kanji (recognition/production), etc., not "what deck" (e.g. mining, core, whatever).

>answer time per card: 14 seconds, is it bad?
Yeah, that's pretty slow. Vocab cards (like in the Core deck) should be taking you under 10 seconds per card.
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>flashtards
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Where should I get manga that isn't in the guide library?
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>>21177297
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>>21178012
Different people, different humor. And I'm not fucked in the least because I remember "plan/intention" by knowing that the image ties that someone (at least you think that) is planning to do something.
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>>21178026
google or jcafe24
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You did your listening today, right anon?
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>>21178026
nyaa.si
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>>21178032
Oh, I didn't know there was manga on nyaa, thanks.
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gary made an account just to btfo rarepotato
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>>21178031
of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=389xpAiokTE
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>>21178031
i try to do my 24 hours a day every day desu but sometimes my headphones fall off in my sleep
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>20 minutse
not going to make it
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>minutse
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みぬて
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lmao tse tung
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>>21178040
>I didn't know there was manga on nyaa
what the fug
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>>21178089
Only used it for anime
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フクヨウ
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あのね、私はゲイ。
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そっか
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了解しました
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>>21178031
Watched one episode of anime, one episode of gaki no tsukai and a couple Japanese youtuber videos. Going to watch atleast another 7 episodes of anime tonight
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20190415/k10011884391000.html?utm_int=all_side_ranking-access_001

>daiweeb down
>see this

hmmmm
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ああ、そうかい
いい度胸だな、そんなことを宣言するなんて。
夜に外を出歩くとき、気をつけろよ。
ホモ嫌い誰かにぶっ殺されるかもしれんぞ
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>>21178148
>被害額は18億円以上
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>>21178157
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imagine going to japan and downloading anime like usual and getting busted and thrown in the brig lol
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>>21178165
He was uploading it. Some filthy 韓国籍の男 touched our glorious anime.
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>>21178172
no i know they always go after the provider but just go with my what if

imagine a dude just torrenting the latest anime and leaves his puter on seeding accidentally and then gets jailed for the rest of his life
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>>21178148
How fucking stupid to you have to be as a Jap living in Japan to run a piracy site? What was this guy thinking?
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>>21177601
then why are you writing in english?
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>>21178191

Clearly not thinking with a VPN
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>>21178191
He was a filthy チョン, not a Japanese.
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>>21178199
why would you bother to make this pointless retort
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imagine getting a life sentence in prison for sharing shitty anime like world trigger lol
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dont you dare share files goy
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>>21178213
why would you bother to make this pointless retort to my pointless retort?
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>>21178207
>VPN
You really think that keeps you safe?
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29
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Question. Have anyone here tried buying Japanese ebooks on google play or Amazon (is this even possible)?

There are certain things that I can't seem to torrent on so I want to know. Or else I'm going to have to force myself to get a physical copy.
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生きてみようか今更
I read that the verb is conjugated to mean will to live with the よう but i dont understand why the み is thier? This is probably stupid but i cant find the anwser
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>どうして?どうして関係者なのにみんな帰っちゃうの?
>why? why did everyone leave despite being related to the event?
am i reading that right?
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>>21178225
cuz ur a fag who tried to "own" me by taking my post out of context just to say "but you speak english XDDDDDD"
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>>21178228
joke's on you i'm behind seven proxies
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>>21178232
it's from 生きてみる
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>>21178157
>>21178164
それは日本人じゃないけど
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>>21178233
>why did everyone leave
>am i reading that right?
No since that sentence isn't past tense.
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>>21178228

I'll stop believing that when Nord and Pia goes out of business.

Also, have fun not getting sniffed on a public wifi network.
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>>21178250
oh fuck me
but besides that did i get the gist of that sentence down?
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Does hating Koreans count as immersing yourself?
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>>21178253
m8
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/hidemyass_lulzsec_controversy/
^ This provider is still in business to this day. There are no end of shitty, awful companies which survive and even thrive in spite of their horrible, unethical business practices.

A company being in business says absolutely nothing about its trustworthiness.
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>>21178231
Amazon works fine, havent tried google. You need to make a japanese amazon account and then add a shipping or billing address to that account. But you can just use any old "valid" address, i think i put in the address of Tokyo Tower and it was fine. As long as you buy only digital goods you're good.

Just note that if you use a Kindle you cant quicky swap accounts, so if you have an account from a different country with books on it you need to log out of that, which deletes all your books from your device and is quite a slow process.
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japs are so backwards they think archiving media should warrant a jail sentence
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Are the fucks at daiweeb too stupid to figure out their hosting or what. At first I thought they might have been taken down, but aparently it's just general incompetence.
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>>21178317
no cute yuri animu today then i guess...

will watch this anime instead
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>daiweeb
>incompetence

pick 2
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>>21178236
are you annoyed? you seemed to take my pointless retorts very seriously
sorry, I didn't think that my dry sense of humor would be this badly received
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>>21177946
Everything is slow in the beginning, you should ease into it and worry about stuff like that later on. My answering times are 7-8s but I've been at it for little over a year now so it's only natural.
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>>21178148
>daiweeb
What?
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>>21177946
>>21178373
I one day noticed i was taking quite long and made a conscious decision to speed up, and have continously lowered my times since even though reviews are going up and now am down to 5.5s (or sometimes even lower) per card. Retention suffered a bit, but has now stabilized at 88 - 90%.
Am 5000 cards in after 4.5 months.

But yeah, definitely gets much easier to speed up as you get more comfortable with readings and worry more about meanings. Wouldn't worry too much about it in the beginning. Or even at all unless you take so long it really stops you from immersion.
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>>21174320
if your study is just reading then halve them for more accurate estimates
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another word that is missing definitions in jmdict

玉体
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>>21178436
Working for me in rikaikun, yomichan and jwpce
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>new sao
>instead of dual wield kirito it's now two kirito
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>watching sao
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>>21178443
I'm saying it is lacking definitions that appear in Japanese dictionaries, not that it doesn't have some definitions
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>>21178436
Stop using outdated dictionary software.
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>>21177233
was that a full size standard maru are we allowed to use it now 〇
>>21177297
main route was good but thinkin about skippin yumi after i finish azusa today even though all routes is in my nature
i think i missed a true end so ill look for that though lol
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only thing i ever hear about sao is how shit it is
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>>21178466
? all j-e dictionaries have the same data from jmdict. it's not a question of software
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i wnna fuck blonde kirito
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>>21178485
JMdict updates on a daily or weekly basis. Some people stick to rikaisama despite it being very much out of date.
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>>21178494
regardless of your little factoid, you can go and check the current entry in the jmdict yourself and see that it's lacking definitions that are in all good J-J dictionaries
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Why are some potential form from words included in dictionaries. Can i add 1 more potential verb transformation on them or they are just indexed like that in the dictionary?
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>>21178535
Probably they are used as nouns, but give an example.
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>>21178547
焼く     ・  焼ける
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>>21178556
that isn't a potential form lol, it's two different verbs, one transitive and the other intransitive. another cases of dumbasses asking dumb questions based on a fundamental misunderstanding
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>>21178611
ok senpai thanks . So i guess only the original forms are recorded in the dictionary wow thats a relief.
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>>21178556
Yeah those are different verbs as other anon said.
What I meant when I said that they might be used as nouns were words like 焼け, which is the noun form.
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>>21178641
Yep yep got it, i encountered a few words like that and they confused me but now i know. Though i knew about the stem being a noun and didn't mistake it
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真実はいつもひとつ、そしてそれは「私はゲイ、お前はゲイ、全員のDJTはゲイ!」
以上だ!
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sou ja na
jibun ha gei ja
onushi mo ja
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>>21178447
Why the fuck would you watch SAO?
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>>21178786
cuz the lns are the best wooo
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>>21178820
then read them
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ああ、そうかい
いい度胸だな、そんなことを宣言するなんて。
夜に外を出歩くとき、気をつけろよ。
ホモ嫌い誰かにぶっ殺されるかもしれんぞ
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アブラゼミになりたい
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>>21178786
Why not?
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>>21178887
爆笑
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>>21178447
>>21178455
Who are you quoting?
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>>21178228
Yeah idk why VPNs are the thing when I really want a proxy so I can set up rules to send certain requests thru the proxy. Like why would you let another party look at all your traffic. I tried to find a good Japan proxy that would let me access the sites that are blocked but I couldn't.
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>>21178963
The post above theirs. Are you blind?
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>>21178965
"watching sao" isn't in the first post. Are you blind?
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>>21178971
There's a post between the two posts you linked. Are you blind?
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>>21178975
No there isn't, and none of quotes in either of those posts are in the thread. Are you blind?
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>>21178515
You should add them.
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>>21178982
Clearly you are the only one here who can't see them
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>>21178887
その場合だったら、私はそちの人をゲイと呼ぶ
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>>21178982
embarrassing
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>>21177293
That's nice but manga isn't reading.
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>>21179023
then how do get what the characters/narrator are saying if you don't read the text bubbles?
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How long should it take me to learn Hiragana?
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>>21179085
1-2 days if you are not a brainlet, 1 week if you are a brainlet.

I recommend you do hiragana and katakana together. Write 1 line of hiragana and 1 line of katakana.
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>>21179092
You are kidding right
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If you can't learn all the hiragana in a week you might as well give up my dude.
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lets take a moment and remember + celebrate the life and times of @sentenceminer
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>>21179085
6-10 months
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>>21179098
"learn" is different from "master." you should be able to learn the kana in a couple days, but it will still be a while until you completely internalize the relationships between the symbols and the sounds and are able to reproduce them without consciously thinking about it.
but that doesn't mean you should "study the kana" until that happens, that would be a waste of time
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shut up retard u are not an educator
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>haven’t been here in several months
>reading level has improved greatly
>realize now you guys just write vulgar trash in here

cool
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Then why you come here? just fly yourself to Japan if you don't like our advice. Kanas are easy to learn if you put work into it. after that is just grammar and grinding novels.
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>>21179128
maybe you got better at japanese but I got way better at shitposting in the meanwhile
あなたはゲイ
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>>21179128
Who are you quoting?
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We don't "greentext" around these places boy, now pull down your pants so you can receive proper punishment.
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>>21179128
congrats on being able to read うんこ and まんこ very 上手い
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>>21179131
that wasn't me.
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>>21179143
>implying I'm not going to write my posts with green meme arrows anyway
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Why is it so easy to spot the /v/ermin?
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>>21179144
Gary Gato Gozaymoss.
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>>21179155
You need to go back to >>>/a/.
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read this or die
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>>21179165
>>21179170
cringe
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>>21179085
https://realkana.com like a day if you just sit and do this all day
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>>21179182
面白くないみたいですけど
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>>21179182
your mom is a whore
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>>21179205
i should have said read this or die silently without crippling every1s nihongo in ur death throes
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>>21179128
some posts are tame but will also permanently cripple ur nihongo
maybe what ur lookin for is what imouto poster can provide
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>>21179208
no way dude
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>>21179211
that's not crippling anyone's nihongo, don't make me bust out some real trash-ass posting because i'll absolutely ruin this thread with my sub n5 prose
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やれよ
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>>21179240
sure gimme a topic i'll freestyle that shit for you
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what's the name of that shit? the one that goes in ga, za , da , ba. you know the one
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There are literally tens of thousands of Japanese words that I don't know.
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>>21179245
水中バスケット織り
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>>21179260
なんでやねん!
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>>21179250
this will never not be true
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>>21179250
There are literally tens of thousands of English words that you don't know.
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>>21179299
That isn't true, I read the whole dictionary once.
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わたしはゲイと書いてある
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>>21179260
senpai!
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私は貴方にうんことは言わない、


うんこはそれを聞けば気を毒。

もし貴方の部分うんこに落ち込めば、

うんこが腐る。

神は貴方の練り粉を

糞と練り合わせて、

貴方のお母さんはうんこをする間に

貴方を誤って産まれてしまった。
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well i hope it was worth it
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how long have u been "studying" nihongo and how much of this do u "understand" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9k9v1_MxgU
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>>21179362
上手だよ、先輩はこれを書きましたか
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>>21179447
いいえ、先輩じゃない。俺の母国の誌です。俺はただ翻訳しました。
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>>21179414
"living japan くそやべぇ"
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>>21179447
いいえ、先輩じゃない。俺の母国の詩です。俺はただ翻訳しました。
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>>21178934
It's shit.
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sao is bad would rather watch literally .hack sign
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>>21179583
.hack//sign owns tho
just because you had different expectations from what the show ended up giving you doesn't make it bad
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>>21179098
it takes 1 like a day for each kana
and a few more days to get it nailed into your head
and idk how long until you start reading them extremely naturally but it happens eventually
i remember starting out and i had to sound them out real slow like a retard
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>>21179588
it's bad on retrospect better than any of the other the world r1 dot hack media though
gu > sign > dusk > etc
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巨大なちんちん
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>>21179639
>i remember starting out and i had to sound them out real slow like a retard
dont make me remember sucking that hard
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Words are a lot easier once you've memorized them.
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words are a lot easier once youve read a lot
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名前の之国は黒猿だよ。
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>>21179831
>名前の之国

之国の名前
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>>21179831
失敗
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>>21179839

ニガルファゴット
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>>21179852
ヤギ
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it's time to for the daily reps
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>>21179888
>888
分かって
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>>21179831
You might want to work on your Japanese, incelくん.
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>>21179987
恐れている
いたずらな先輩
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>>21178743
sooo you tryna have an orgy??
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>>21179791
memorized them and then read them a lot
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>>21180092
memorization is optional
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先輩大変態
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洗濯選択肢
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>>21179987

There is nothing wrong in my post the only error I already corrected it on the following post and the country Niger is spelled as ニジェール since the country Niger can't be spelled as nigger and it doesn't have a kanji name I decided to use the kanji for black and monkey and stick them together since that is the closest I could get to change the name of the country to something racist in Japanese.
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How important is it for me to be able to handwrite every kanji from memory?
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>>21180217
Do you want to know Japanese or do you want to be a kanjilet japaneselet like 99% of djt?
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>>21180217
very important if you wanna master every aspect of your inner nihonjin
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>>21180217
very important if u want to be able to handwrite kanji from memory
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>>21180217
Very important. Else you're just an illiterate and your understanding of Kanji is just very superficial.
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>>21180217
not important at all
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>>21180217

Japanese IS Kanji

If not for kanji there would be a massive horde of weeaboos speaking Japanese.

Also writing in full kanji helps you impress normies.

綺麗看護婦狂三時崎波御壽司遠喰う

How a faggot dekinai would write the sentence above:

きれいな看護婦クルミトキサキはお寿司を食べる
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>>21180380
lmao they're just butthurt because they had to spend 80% of their time in school learning this bluepilled language
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>>21180380
what vid
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>>21180380
is that the same video where he mixes up nihongo and korean
steve is just so fuckin good that he became bad
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やばい

やばい

噴火したっぽい

阿蘇(あそ)

おおきさによっては

あそこはやばい
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親精子丼
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>>21180380
monolinguals are the worst no matter what language they speak. English monolinguals love to circlejerk about how hard and "crazy" English is to learn, despite no language being inherently more difficult than any other
of course most Japanese are also monolingual cucks despite years of compulsory English education so it behooves them to believe the one language they do speak is somehow special
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こんなのでてきた

N2くらいでよめるとおもう
https://gqjapan.jp/culture/column/20160606/mount-aso-the-supervolcano/page/4

>巨大カルデラ噴火を起こした火山は7つあるが、そのうちの4つが九州に集中している。その中でも最大のものが、東西18キロ、南北25キロの阿蘇カルデラである。そう、先日の熊本地震で活発化が懸念される、あの阿蘇山だ。もし、阿蘇カルデラで巨大カルデラ噴火が起こったら、日本はどうなるのか。

>まず、最初のプリニー式噴火によって、中部九州では場所によっては数メートルもの軽石が降り積もって壊滅的な状況に陥る。そしてクライマックス噴火が始まると、巨大な噴煙柱が崩落して火砕流が発生する。軽石と火山灰、それに火山ガスや空気が渾然一体流れる火砕流は、キノコ雲状に立ち上がった灰神楽の中心から、全方位へと広がって行く。数百度以上の高温の火砕流はすべてのものを飲み込み焼き尽してしまう。そして発生後2時間程度で700万人の人々が暮らす領域を覆い尽くす。
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>>21180523
ruin your culture goy
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>>21180391
japanese looks better than chinese, also, if I wanted to write in full kanji, I'd learn chinese
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>>21180582
>japanese looks better than chinese

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plz remember japanese is cute and chinese is scary
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さいあくのばあい

にほんぜんぶおわる
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The fact that 支える can mean two completely different things shows this languages completely useless.
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もこもこしてる
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJXM0P2S4dw
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the fact that 壺 can mean two completely different things shows this languages completely useless
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>>21180718
jar/pot/vase
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>>21180735
read more hentai
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>>21180752
肉壺 returns no results on jisho, does it mean something stupid like fanny
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>>21180718
>>21180752
these words at least share an idea sasaeru and tsukaeru dont
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>>21180758
first time i saw it i thought so
but then i saw 俺のツボを刺激する in the context of a handjob and wondered if that first usage was the same
but i might be mistaken
in that case change my example usage to 思うつぼ
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>>21180783
meant for >>21180768
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>>21180783
>>21180791
>思うつぼ
>〔「つぼ」は,博打(ばくち)でさいころを入れて振るもの〕
I mean it's thin but they still share an idea
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>share an idea
I mean they all have etymologies talking about literal ツボs
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it's the same kogo
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>>21179313
>only one
lol
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>>21180822
that makes sense
but i dont think sasaeru and tsukaeru are that disparate
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>badass tier

>good tier
自分

>okay tier


>ゲイ tier
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>>21180922
And あたし?
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全てを終わりにしてくれ
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>>21179250
There are literally tens of thousand of words in my native language that I don't know.
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>>21180922
where's 儂, the best one?
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早く刺せよ
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>>21180943
あたしにも
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>>21180940
It'a cute when little girls use it.
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>>21180943
ひとがひとを

きずつけることなんて

いらないよ


かざんがふんかしたり

じしんでつぶされたり

たいふうでとばされたり

なつのあつさでたおれたり

さむさでこごえたり

びょうきでだめになったり

するまで

いきれば?
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wow gay thread i only read this for e-celeb
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>>21180976
自然に負ける人間など、人間と呼ぶべきではない。そいつらはただの猿だ。
自然を超えることこそが人間の特徴である。したがって、人間を殺す権利は他ならぬ人間にはある!
知らぬか?人生の醍醐味は殺し合いの刺激にある。
だから、あんな戯言をほざくのをやめい。
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>>21180940
badass when used by men
thot indicator when used by women
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>>21181094
マジレス乙
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こっからはみんな本気出すよ
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>>21181146
4ね
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is 2chan.net the real 2ch?
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>>21181158
2chan and 2ch (2channel) are different things.
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>>21181172
then what is the URL of 2ch (2channel)?
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by the time u learn japanese the chans wont even exist anymore lol
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>>21181211
s-shut up!
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>>21181223
burn...
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>>21180380
>>21180523
>>21180527
俺の日本語はそんな上手じゃないってわかってる。外国人だから、当たり前のことだし、たまに変な日本語でてきたり、アクセントも変だったりするけど、それはやっぱり日本語が母語じゃないから仕方がないと受け入れてるんだけど
君は、多分1ヶ国語しか喋れないよね?喋れるとしてもちょっとカタコトだったり日本語の訛りが強かったりするよね?そのくせに他の人に対して「日本語下手くそ」とか言う立場じゃなくない?君ももしかしたら英語を一生懸命勉強して、突然外国人に「英語カタコトw」とか言われたらどう?あんまり気持ちはよくないでしょ
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>>21181269
quizmaster strikes again
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>>21181279
That's not me fyi.
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あっそさーん
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obviously cuz its not cut and pasted anime phrases
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>>21181307
I never copy and paste. Everything I say is original.
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>俺
>当たり前

>obviously cuz its not cut and pasted anime phrases
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i mean he was nice enough to preface his post with a big dont read me sign in "俺の日本語" but i dont think that constitutes animego in and of itself
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>>21181338
You know how to roast someone!

>nice enough to preface his post with a big dont read me sign in "俺の日本語"
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>>21181325
ppl say 俺 and 当たり前 in real life tho lol
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>>21181200
it's 5ch now
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Anyone use online groups for Japanese culture and language learning? Trying to find more Japanese to practice talking to. Every other group I find is full of desperate Indians and Indonesians
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groups are for zoomers

go on ur own and make ur own special nipponjin no tomodachis and make special omoides lol
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>>21180380
Anyone got a YouTube account? Ask them to comment on Matt's new speaking video.
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>>21181459
>Anyone use online groups for Japanese culture and language learning? Trying to find more Japanese to practice talking to.
If only there was a board here where you could write in Japanese with Japanese speakers.
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>>21181473
"死ぬほどダサい"
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>>21180217
It depends on your goals; do your goals make being able to handwrite kanji necessary? What do you want to do with Japanese?
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I'm going to sleep DJT good night oyapoopy
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一人にさせないでよ : (
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*しないで
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>>21181548
どちらでもいい
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If you are lonely you can quiz me anytime.
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hi how big is ur benis :DDD
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About 16k
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普通
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the wiener is not much to speak of but the balls are of considerable circumference lol
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>>21181568
women must be over you all the time
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Is 頭 as あたま in「頭を振る」wrong?
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>>21181573
as for women こりごり lol
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anata wa gei ka
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>>21181576
whats ur issue

>>21181592
まあたまにね

>>21181599
well its still a good time to invest in hyundai lol
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>>21181576
Uhm, no, that's how it's read ...
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>>21180380
lol, the dekinai yamatojin
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>>21181622
i like the adam comment its literally the equivalent of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA
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>>21181613
>whats ur issue
>>21181619

It is just cause when you google it you get 頭を振る(カブリヲフル)
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i mean if u want the english equivalent just stick with 首を振る
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why do VNs have such long titles?
I mean 「寝取られ男の娘 ~俺の幼馴染みの無邪気な彼女(男の娘)がまさか粗暴な体育教師に弱みを握られて調教されていつの間にか快楽に溺れてアヘアヘダブルピースでビデオ撮影されて喜んでいただなんて!!~」 seems a bit too much, there's more story in the title than in the game
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琉球独立 Free okinawa アイヌ独立 Free Ainu 核兵器 Nuclear weapon 原子爆弾 Atomic bomb 人間宣言 Humanity Declaration 広島・長崎 Hiroshima・Nagasaki 731部隊 Unit731 鳴梁海戦 Battle of Myeongnyang 真珠湾 Pearl Harbor 神風攻撃隊 Kamikaze 慰安婦 Comfort women 戦争犯罪 War crime 南京大虐殺 Nanjing Massacre ダグラス・マッカーサー Douglas MacArthur 憲法第9条 Article 9 of the Constitution 関東大震災朝鮮人虐殺 Kanto Massacre 李舜臣 Yi Sun-sin 沖縄戦 Battle of Okinawa 枢軸国 Axis powers マニラ大虐殺 Manila massacre 東條英機 Hideki Tojo 太平洋戦争 Pacific War 倭寇 Wokou 連合国軍最高司令官総司令部 Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers(GHQ) 戦犯裕仁 Hirohito 戦犯国 War criminals country 部落問題Burakumin 夜這いYobai 竹島Dokdo/Takeshima 尖閣諸島Senkaku Islands/Diaoyudao Qundao 千島列島 Kuril Islands バッキー Bakky Visual Planning 女子高生コンクリート詰め殺人Murder of Junko Furuta 援助交際 Enjo kosai 痴漢 Chikan、 Japino、唐行きさん Karayuki-san、 琉球独立、 アイヌ独立、任那日本府廃棄、 百済、 白村江の戦い、 文禄・慶長の役、独立、主権回復、佐川一政、 食人、 人肉、 いじめ、亀甲船、牟田口廉也、 インパール作戦 、第二次世界大戦、敗亡、敗戦、用薬須知続編、人中黄
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>>21181705
What do you mean "stick with"? 頭を振る comes up in pretty much every book and I just want to know if I'm reading it right.
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>>21181716
nuki games generally have real in ur face titles imagine how much more boring and throwaway it would be if it was just 寝取られ男の娘 lmao
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>>21181716
i prefer when they're funny ones like 俺はツマキラー ~妻5人、娘5人、親娘丼おかわりっ!~ or synopsis of what the plot for it is like 頭に爆弾 ~24時間以内にSEXしないと死んじゃう!~
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>>21181721
based
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>>21181722
well most of the time its not あたま then cuz its an expression but that doesnt mean it cant ever be あたま just most of the time it isnt and honestly it doesnt really matter unless ur like the adam guy in this comment >>21180380
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>>21181576
https://jisho.org/search/%E9%A0%AD%E3%82%92%E6%8C%AF%E3%82%8B
jisho ftw
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「なら話しゃいいんだろ、聞いてやる」what is ゃ?
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>>21181760
話したら -> 話しゃ
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>>21181765
so 食べたら = 食べゃ ?
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lol
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in the case of 食べる it would be 食べにゃ
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>>21181793
Whats the rule i searched everywhere but i couldn't find even a spec of explanation for japanese contractions. Does someone perhaps have resources? What are the rules?
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its called 猫語 its pretty simple
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>>21181805
pretty sure it is a dialect, hataka ben?
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>>21181805
where did you get the sentence from?
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>>21181829
ncode.syosetu elf was speaking . Was just confused why 食べる would be 食べにゃ
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>>21181848
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>>21181839
我は猫ですからにゃん
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>>21181848
https://streamable.com/5d4vm
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>>21181848
simple and effective
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Like this
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>>21181775
I don't think you do that with ichidan verbs. You use the ば form instead and contract to りゃ(食べれば>食べりゃ).

>>21181839
I don't think it would. At least, I don't remember ever reading/hearing it. Pretty sure he's fucking with you.
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>>21181913
problem is u still have anki installed which is like having a empty syringe sitting there

ur gonna eventually do somethin stupid with it eventually and ruin ur life
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>>21181893
this nigga doing sentence cards!
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>>21181924
as long as he keeps it this short i don't see any problem.
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>>21181848
I posted these before but yeah those are my vocab cards (currently only do kanji now though but those cards are not very pretty because formatting with images is a pain)
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>>21181916
Thank you for explaining.
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>>21181884
How do you make these? Also, are those just exposure cards or do you just skip over quickly for the word in the video?
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>>21181933
Note: The font on the kana has since been changed to the font of the kanji, I just was too lazy to make new screens and I threw my newer ones away
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>>21181945
Don't start plz
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>>21181893
>>21181933
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>>21181945
The very left. It's my original card design.
On the front is only the word. I use ShareX, Yomichan and a website. I posted a guide before maybe I'll post it again.
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>>21181953
>>21181893 is mine
i've been doing ajatt for 14 months now and my anki reviews only take 5 minutes a day nowadays. your pic is pointless.
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I thought doing anki was bad...
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>>21181973
Cool. You up for a quiz challenge?
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>>21181953
heh, my cards really are the best
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>>21181973
your post is pointless
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>>21181982
sure. how tho?
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>>21181953
I'm more motivated to do my cards if they look pretty/remind me of something I like, and I don't do them for hours anyway. (mine are the ones with the pic in the background)
If you're in for your eyes, just read with an eInk screen. Which is what I do on a daily basis.
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>>21181989
https://discord.gg/Cc7D6cw
Join this chat.
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i think im gonna install anki so i can make a card that i think is funny
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>>21181984
increase the space between translation and image and it will be indeed perfect
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Date A Live became Date A Loli
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hows my flashcards
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>>21181999
here's a fun one just for you

https://streamable.com/koz81
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>>21182018
thats not a flashcard but that is a funcard shoutouts to yung kage
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>>21182016
Looking good anon, you're definitely gonna make it.
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>>21181954
Please stop posting a defaced version of my image.
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>>21182035
I will if you come to the quiz and beat me.
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if u wanna quiz uve come to the right place
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>>21182027
hey it made me learn that word pretty well
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quiz me outside
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>>21181973
>sentence cards
>5 minutes a day
going to need some broofs my friend

post your stats
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ill quiz u in the parking lot fucka its goin down
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what's the fastest way to look up unknown kanji when reading manga?
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>>21182083
kanjitomo
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>>21182083
>reading manga
No such thing.
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>>21182131
what do you mean?
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At this point I'm pretty sure itazuraneko has some kind of brain damage that keeps him from telling that his designs are ugly. Unbalanced margins and a lack of padding are pretty obvious problems. Not to mention how ugly it is to mix gray and yellow. Really reminds me of someone.
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>>21182135
Manga isn't reading.
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>>21182140
tbqh the site isn't there to look good, he can do what he wants with it as far as i am concerned. It has good resources and that is what people need.
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>>21182151
If it's too ugly then people will close it reflexively right after opening it, just like https://anidb.net/
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>HINT: Don't like the way AniDB looks? There are a number of alternative styles available for registered users.
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>>21178887
Can we go back n just appreciate that the quizmaster is such a dweeb that he literally reposted his own shit just with no kaiki avatar thinking nobody could tell its him
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Registration bait is, also, bad. Leave that shit in the 90s. AniDB's theme is just plain broken.
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>>21182190
Not him but the alternative styles all look like dogshit as well. They're just re-colors of the existing, ugly as shit layout.
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I know is bad, just find it funny lol
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>>21182151
>tbqh the site isn't there to look good
But it is there to help people, which it doesn't do a very good job of when people can't find what they're looking for because of the retarded design decisions.

And god it's so fuckin ugly. Why can't he just stop fucking with it? Everything he does just makes it descend to a whole new level of shit.
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The thing is that even with a bad design idea you can make it look passable by getting the details right. As far as I can tell, itazuraneko is basically going out of his way to pick details that are ugly. It would make me feel bad for him if I didn't know that it's just his way of feeling like he's standing up against something, like the old DoJG deck formatting.
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>>21182232
Why don't you do your own site?
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>>21182238
not him but I'd do a site if I somehow knew that itazuraneko would keep working on the library and CoR, which I have no interest in
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I mean, if you don't like it, make your own or just don't fucking use it.
Why get angry for something you can't control?
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Don't like, don't read! :D
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>>21182234
He's just immersing. We all know Japan can't into webdesign. Presumably that's why /djt/ is overrun with lowercase posters as well.
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>>21182264
I'm not angry. I'm disappointed.
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>>21182268
dont tell this guy that

https://streamable.com/yg0wk
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STOP LOWERCASE POSTING
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or what pussy
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Alright, I can't get KanjiTomo to work, even not through Java.
Any alternatives?
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>>21182315
Program it yourself
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>>21182315
Search by radicals on jisho.
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>>21182316
I'm brainlet
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>>21182320
Yeah, this could help you escape brainlet status
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>>21182315

Just become me.

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1aATcqjXqgG
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>>21182315
Draw it out on Google Translate
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英語は苦手
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>>21182319
That could do.
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are u a brainlet ? click here to find out
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>>21182325
Who asked you, quiz boy?
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>>21182326
yeah no
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>>21182337
google translate actually recognizes kanji really well, jisho does it too but really really horrible so don't use that
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>>21182315
get gboard on your phone and get the handwriting input
then you can just write that shit right into jisho.org
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>>21182331

Quizzing is the new standard. You are a relic of the past. This is our thread now.

https://streamable.com/46ur5
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How well does the camera recognition feature on Google Translate (on phone) work?
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>>21181721
where's comfort womyn
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So, how do I study new words I encounter when reading? Anki or just paper and pen?
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Using ((google)). THeres literally no hope for you people
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>>21182387
You are free to do whatever you like. You going to ask me to wipe your butt next? Christ you need to tidy yourself up a bit man.
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another word in jmdict that's lacking definitions

薄皮
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>>21182394
Thanks, now I know that I can't ask for advice here.
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>>21182398
things like "thin leather" and membrane?
That's in the german jdict. I thought the german one was worse??
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>>21182387
Don't learn them at all, you'll know them once you encounter them often enough.
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>>21182400
You should have known when I single handedly outquizzed this entire chat. Now you can leave this place behind without looking back. Honestly I don't think you ever stood a chance asking something that dumb though.
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>>21182410
There are no dumb questions.
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>>21182387
Depends on the approach. If you already know a handful of words and are not a complete beginner, look it up and read more, you'll encounter it more often and look it up again, and some point you're going to start remembering it. It'll take a while, but you can learn that way.
But if the amount of lookups is way too painful for you to keep reading, then you can put words into anki to memorize them so that you have to look up less. Anki doesn't give you the more natural knowledge of native content though, so it's not recommended to use for a lot of words (speak thousands) because then you have to do so many reviews that you waste way too much time for knowledge that is "synthetic", like maybe you'll have problems recognizing that word outside of Anki and other things like that.
>>21182400
You can ask for advice, surely, but you won't always get an useful answer. Don't take people too seriously.
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>>21182417
Well if you want to be that precise, I suppose the question itself isn't dumb but the person asking it.
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>>21182387
This depends on your skill level and how often you encounter that word.
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I never write down a new word I encouncter.
I just hope it sticks and I know it the next time I see it.
Usually takes a couple of times though.
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Anyone else can't log into Daiweeb?
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I think I know more words that are said in h-scenes than words in normal situations...
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^
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^
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Pretty cool that Japanese TV has basically subtitles, helps a lot.
I guess a lot of people watch TV on mute?
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>>21182278
>doesn't use textbooks for language learning
>uses textbooks to learn programming

he must be the ultimate brainlet
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>>21182465
No, japs are just doing it to flex. They think their autistic scribblings look really cool
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>>21182466
You do actually need extensive reference resources when learning programming. Programming is slow and deliberate, and conscious knowledge is absolutely vital to producing functioning code as a beginner. Without functioning code you can't know whether anything that you've written is remotely correct, and there are things that are objectively right and objectively wrong, unlike natural language. Their structure, syntax, and semantics are also very unusual and unnatural, with edge cases that you're absolutely never going to encounter during natural code reading/writing, that you need to know about in advance from conscious knowledge.
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>>21182480
None of this is true.
t. am software engineer and never looked into a textbook to learn programming
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>>21182480
ex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangling_else
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>>21182480
t. Basedboy 1337 wanna be. tap yourself on the back even more
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>>21182485
Sure thing stack overflow copy-paster.

Programming textbooks are just glorified reference resources.

>>21182490
I am most likely the best programmer to have looked at DJT in the past two weeks.
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>>21182491
>I am most likely the best programmer to have looked at DJT in the past two weeks.
Post your github kid

>ex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangling_else
How is this relevant?
If this type of shit causes a bug in your program you would be smart enough to simply split it apart. (And tbqh few people are retarded enough to come across this in the first place)
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>>21182498
>Post your github kid
lmao fuck no
>How is this relevant?
>If this type of shit causes a bug in your program
>And tbqh few people are retarded enough to come across this in the first place
Congratulations, you have outed yourself as a novice.
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>>21182485
its guys like u that are the reason so many things are coded like shit these days omigoto lol
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>>21182501
>Congratulations, you have outed yourself as a novice.
Name 1 (one) thing I said that was wrong, and explain why

>>21182502
Fuck off lowercase poster
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>>21182485
this is retarded lmao

"I'm a doctor but I never looked at a textbook I just learned by inspecting hundreds of thousands of patients"

hahah
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>>21182465
>I guess a lot of people watch TV on mute?
This is what I'm hearing for forever but I have a feeling >>21182478 is right.
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>>21182506
I can tell you haven't coded a single line of code in your life.
Your analogy is retarded because
a) doctors can't simply practice without profound knowledge. If they make a mistake, they risk the health of human beings. If I make a mistake, I might cause a memory leak at worst which my OS will take care of for me
b) You don't need profound knowledge for programming, and the knowledge you do need is best acquired through practice.
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Heh, I made my own Anki cards, I'm a better programmer than all of you.
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>>21182514
hey guys I'm a physicist I just learned by observing apples falling from trees and shadows from the sun and shit lmao
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>>21182480
What a load of horseshit. You replied to an actual software dev by the way that has developed stuff for pretty much every platform. All self taught by just fucking doing it, not theorising about it.

Coding is easy. There are complicated problems and applications that are more math than programming, sure, but just learning to program is just about the easiest thing i have done in my life.
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How does it feel to know that you will be replaced by pajeets in the next 7 years
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>>21182520
No, more like
>hey guys I'm a car mechanic I learned by fixing a bunch of cars
You think car mechanics read fucking textbooks?
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>>21182521
so you mean to say you just opened notepad and just started typing shit until it became a program ?
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Pack up guys the analogy battle is about to heat up
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I just saw a Japanese ad where they showed a gas stove that shuts its flame automatically as soon as there is shaking going on.
An earthquake-proof stove.
さすが日本!
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>>21182529
everybody can do that
hello word :^)
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i like these youngass devs comin in here talkin about how they dev this dev that never read a book in my life but all their work is undoubtedly trash

ur best work isnt even comparable to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDc3ZEKl-Wc dont kid urself
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>>21182503
All programmers who have produced enough code to be worth their weight in body fat have run into bugs caused by ambiguous syntax and poorly specified language constructs. You would know this if you had enough experience programming for your opinion to matter.

You need to have a conscious understanding of how the programming language works to understand why things are working incorrectly. You're not going to get by on sheer input and context.

Reading other peoples' code is not a good way to develop a good understanding of how a programming language works. Almost all code ever written is broken in some way, incredibly unidiomatic, or hacked together from copy-pasted boilerplate in an old version of Java. It's nothing like human languages.

Don't get me wrong. CS students who think they're hot shit but have no experience actually programming are much, much worse than someone who taught themselves to program by writing random letters into a text editor and hitting "compile" until things somehow magically worked.

But you'd be lying if you said that you, as an experienced developer, learned to program without ever using something designed to guide beginners into how code in some or another programming language, how it's structured, how it functions, and how common tasks are done. THAT'S what programming textbooks are like. They're nothing like language textbooks.

>>21182521
I am an actual experienced software dev. The person I replied to is a novice who thinks they're hot shit for googling the basics for several months instead of reading a tutorial for a week.

People who have a poor conscious understanding of the language they're programming in write very buggy slow code, because they have no idea what the language is actually doing with the statement they construct. This isn't a human language where things basically mean something along the lines of what they mean. Things are rigid and all the tiny obtuse edge cases actually matter.

Is your array getting copied or referenced when you run a for loop over it? Not you! What the fuck is a reference? Not like you'd know!

Of course, these particular things would not be explained in "JS For Beginners", but they're defined out there somewhere, in some reference material, in a rigid and objective form. And you have no choice but to read that reference material eventually, or have things explained to you in a deliberate and logical way by someone who has. Reference material is just the final form of beginner's tutorials.

And nobody is ever going to learn a language like Rust without wracking their brain against a logical description of what borrow-checking is for several weeks.
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天気予報が可愛い。
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>>21182546
please type out some more paragraphs you absolute pathetic child lmaooooo
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>>21182521
Also, I never said it's hard at all. Unlike natural languages, conscious knowledge is actually useful when you're programming, and it turns into an intuition much more quickly. And there's never any real pressure on how fast you are. That doesn't mean that it's reasonable to learn to program by reading other peoples' authentic code (not examples, those count as tutorials) and trying to imitate it. You're just going to have a bad time.
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>>21182546
I'm not gonna read all that shit until you post your github, soiboi
o wait, you don't have one bc you spent all your time jacking off to javascript textbooks
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>>21182555
>asking people to dox themselves on 4chan
as they say on /v/, "not an argument"
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>>21182559
Yes, because I'm not arguing with you
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>>21182546
i actually read ur entire post

its wasted here but god bless
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>>21182562
of course you're not arguin with me you're arguin with him
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>>21182546
Why are you backpedaling?
First you said you need to read textbooks to learn programming properly, now you've reduced it to
>something designed to guide beginners into how code
Which one is it?
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I'm certain the people saying they learned programming "without textbooks" really just used some guide to learn python or something and think that's actually different from a textbook
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What did they mean by this?
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>>21182567
>First you said you need to read textbooks to learn programming properly, now you've reduced it to
>>something designed to guide beginners into how code
>>21182480
>You do actually need extensive reference resources when learning programming

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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>>21182568
>youtube video = textbook
lmao let me just move the goalposts until i'm right
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oh me ? *turns on matrix screen saver* yah im a coder i do the coding
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>>21182571
A beginners guide is not an extensive reference resource.
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>>21182572
ah so you were actually that retarded. programming textbooks aren't substantially different in content from YouTube videos or any other "guide"
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I just imagine NEETs having a LARPing competition.
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>>21182580
They're not?
K&R is the same as babby's first pong tutorial in javascript?
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Take a glimpse at my coding ability i dare you
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>>21182577
Any "coding" book (to find a way to squeeze HTML and CSS into the same category) as thick as the one that guy held up is going to be extensive. Maybe not up to date. But it's going to answer just about any question he might have about the things that it does contain.
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>>21182546
No you replied to a guy that wrote his first code when he was 13 years old and has encountered all of those fancy edge cases (like "ambiguous syntax" looool) you mentioned by now. A guy that didn't cram useless information in order to feel smart about their bumfuck nowhere CS degree, but has constantly kept on top of modern development environments by, you know, using them. All the time.

For someone so full of themselves you sure can't sell it very well. That's most programmers though, pretending that what they are doing is rocket science in order to discourage anyone that could possibly notice it's all just hot air.
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i love zoomers that just go right to youtube thinknig they can learn how to do anything

i guess being second or third rate doesnt mean shit if u never know what the genuine article is LOL
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>>21182589
Okay, please recite a list of the easiest ways to trigger undefined behavior in C89.
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For someone so full of themselves you sure can't sell it very well. That's most japanese learners though, pretending that what they are doing is rocket science in order to discourage anyone that could possibly notice it's all just hot air.
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I wrote my first code when I was 6, I typed some letters on the keyboard. I didn't know it at the time, but that was coding
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Not a single djt anon cares you neckbeards. Stahp
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>>21182595
hahahaha holy shit dude
I can just picture you so well
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>>21182588
That's not what I meant though.
In your post you said something akin to a beginners guide is enough, and earlier you said you need extensive reference resources.
I agree you need at least something to get you started, but I don't need to read SICP to become good at programming.

I love how desperate the lowercase posters are for (You)'s
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most ftw shit was when i edited config.sys to make doom run a little better on a suck ass 386 lmao
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Can we go back to posting "watashi ha gei"?
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>>21182589
>>21182596
based
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>>21182605
Buddy, you might want to look up the book that guy is holding in that video. That's the specific kind of resource we're looking at. It doesn't matter if your tutorial is mixed together into the same package as the reference, because you need both to get started. The only time you can skip the tutorial is when you're transitioning between two similar languages.
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>>21182608
It's actually watashi GA gei because watashi is the object of the sentence
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>>21181933
beautiful cards bro
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>>21182618
is not the topic? fucking nips and their stupid language
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We DPT なう
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>>21182618
Of course, these particular things would not be explained in "Genki I", but they're defined out there somewhere, in some reference material, in a rigid and objective form. And you have no choice but to read that reference material eventually, or have things explained to you in a deliberate and logical way by someone who has. Reference material is just the final form of beginner's tutorials.
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i wish i could post my github because you'd all be soooooo impressed.
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all ur professional coding projects are trash ur not fooling anyone
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>This isn't a human language where things basically mean something along the lines of what they mean. Things are rigid and all the tiny obtuse edge cases actually matter.
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>>21182632
>You need to have a conscious understanding of how the Japanese language works to understand why things are working incorrectly. You're not going to get by on sheer input and context.
Reading fags BTFO'd
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yah not calling it a human language is preetty fuckin lol dude better start writing ur posts in 1s and 0s now to save face
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i program visual novel resource parsers to auto import sound lines into anki cards what does that make me
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>>21182640
An homosex
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Textbook nerds absolutely btfo lmao how will they ever recover.
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>打算めいていて
What does this mean? It looks like it's a calculation?
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>>21182145
youre so fuckin annoying dude
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>>21182636
It's funny because changing it to be about Japanese just shows how absurd it is for a natural language to be treated that way. Meanwhile in the land of code it makes perfect sense because there's no gradient for whether something is right or wrong. If it's wrong it's just completely wrong.
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>>21182640
hobbyists are a-ok in my eyes regardless of their skill and competence because hobbies are fun and ftw
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>>21182647
Yeah, it's really funny. You should post this on r/ProgrammerHumor
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>>21182650
nice self own
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>>21182647
oh, you're still going?
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>>21182650
I don't have a reddit account.
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>>21182620
thanks
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>>21182647
theres varying degrees of right tho which depending on who u ask are still wrong
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This thread needs a 良妻賢母
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How many kanji can fit in a liter?
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>>21182640
share Ur code
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrqO4eSqRC4
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>>21182400
fuck those guys man.they all have their heads up their asses. the truth is the question of how to go about vocab study is one of the most debated topics in japanese and perhaps language learning in general. the process of making and studying anki cards certainly works to move at least general definitions of words into your long term memory, which can then increase your ability to read comfortably and understand more. the problem occurs when making and studying those cards starts taking more time than you spend just consuming native material. thats why many here recommend only 5 to 10 minutes of anki a day, using the rest of your time for input. You can learn around 300 new words a month with 5 to 10 minutes a day.
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its not really much of a debate u either watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and get good or u dont its like coding its either it is or it isnt its either a 1 or a 0 its either ur straight or ur ゲイ
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>>21182690
The first season of naruto is enough right
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I was gonna back you up jamal but you crossed the line the last time you messed me with so nopass
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when did i mess with u
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I've been watching anime since highschool.
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にゃ . YOu dont even remember. Garbage human
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>he started watching anime highschool
hope you're a boomer or else you're not gonna make it
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>>21182714
wait seriously that ? the にゃ thing in this thread ? holy shit that was some of my worst work too

either way if u couldnt tell right away what stupid shit i was doing u deserve it straight up gomennasorry not sorry
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I graduated from highschool in 2010 and started watching anime in 2008.
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>>21182719
U will regret this. I promise
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Why did nobody tell me that や否や can be 略す into just や?
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Why did you post the same shit again?
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You need a reference. It doesn't matter what it is. It can be a textbook. It can be google. It can be some random Indian teenager's blog.

It doesn't matter.

It's not like Japanese where entire categories of resources are pointless or bad. It's not a mistake for someone to decide to read a textbook.

If you don't read what things actually do then you don't actually understand what your code is doing. You have to learn what things actually do. You can do it whenever you want, but you can do it whenever you want, even at the very beginning.

You can sit down and read the a literary adaptation of Common Lisp or Scheme before you write a single character of code and you'll be just fine. It won't do you any harm and you'll learn a lot of useful lessons.

This is not true of Japanese, where intuition is the only thing that matters.

Consider this a lesson on how programmers learn to program being a bad example when it comes to learning something different like Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHk42kDwesM
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Bruh you really got into the wrong thread
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>>21182733
this is an ai post right?
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Can someone explain to a retard like myself the difference between Wo を and Ga が in grammar?
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>>21182740
There isn't one. Have fun!
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>>21182737
SICP posting is a longstanding tradition here on /jp/.
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>>21182740
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/difference-between-wa-and-ga/
congrats takes less than a second to google
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Did you just congratulate yourself?
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>>21182733
Hmm yes very interesting indeed *takes notes* thanks this will improve my nihongo quite a bit
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>>21182746
Isn't that between は and が?
He was asking for を and が
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You cannot play on an even level ground as jamal he has secret 4chan pass posts without captcha
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>>21182751
If your note says "Japanese textbooks might suck" then congrats you learned an important lesson today.
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>>21182756
No no it says watashi wa gei but i will keep your suggestion in mind
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>>21182733
>local man refuses to accept his textbooks are useless
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>>21182761
Never touched a programming textbook in my life.
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>>21182750
wheres the thumbs up button would press it on this post lol
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15 days too late for that
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This thread would be useful if we would only speak in Japanese.
始めます。
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私は
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>>21182741
>there isn’t a difference
I like it! Thanks anon
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>>21182769
わたしはさいこうプログラマーですね
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>>21182774
>Though が is called the subject marker and を is called the direct object marker, there are times when they are indeed interchangeable.
This might provide a little more help imabi.net/gavswo.htm
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>>21182776
お前はじゃないです。
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>>21182780
>imabi.net/gavswo.htm
Where's the l after the htm? This is nothing like my programming manga
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>>21182780
Oh okay. Thanks anon. I appreciate the link
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>>21182782
.htm is from the good old days when file name extensions were limited to a length 3 and you couldn't use any fancy characters in file names either.
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imagine being so young that .htm looks strange to u lol
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gotta say 'NG' is shaping up to by my least favorite word in japanese
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21182793
Imagine being so young that u don't know how to write uppercase letters lol
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>>21182769
what good would that do
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セックスはNG
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>>21182803
Immersion
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>>21182809
immersion in shitty gayjin japanese lol
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If we would help each other when someone says something wrong instead of bullying or shitposting, it wouldn't be shitty gayjin japanese
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why do you want corrections and input from fellow shitty gayjins
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>>21182811
shitty immersion is still better than no immersion.
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OK lets switch topic what happened to carubin?
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there must be someone who is less shitty than others
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>>21182827
no it isn't
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Is the Ane Naru Mono Doujinshi better than the Manga?
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"A vocab list helps towards fluency" is like saying unlocking all the fighting game's characters from the start using micro transactions has made you better at the game
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これ読むと日本語の知識がレベルアップするかもしれない
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Just because you understand all the concepts involved, doesn't mean you're suddenly a top fighting game player.

A guide on blockstrings is not the same as irreplaceable firsthand experience in character matchups.

Watching evo is not practise.
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>>21182839
>知識
That's the only part I didn't undertand.
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I hope you don't think I'm Gary Ben. Nothing wrong the the dude but I don't share his opinions.
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gary is right about everything
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>>21182848
They meant 意識. Don't ask me how I know.
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>>21182848
same, but I also didn't understand why there was a single Hiragana character in an otherwise complete Katakana word.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=r5LgoRcYUxk
how accurate is this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=017y6wiEByg
スシyeet
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subsequent seashell --> assets, resources, capital
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>>21182860
Because there's not a different character for べ in katakana.
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>>21182866
This video is actually great. Holy shit.
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I thought Mattposting was the lowest this thread could go, but then it turned into DPT
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>>21182867
in that song im mentally replacing スシ with ass and it has become rather enjoyable
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>>21182876
I'm always just a single chat message away from coming back to show DJT just how bad things can truly become. A pleasure to be of service.
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>>21182876
theres not much to say about matt hes just a neckbeard who pretends to be better at japanese than he really is

no different from any of us really lets be honest
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whats dpt
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I can't find this Kanji. What does it mean?
It looks really similar to this one 庠, but that's not it.
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>>21182890
daily https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27 thread
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>>21182873
Oh, right.
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>>21182893
痒 itchy
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>>21182893
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美味しい tasty
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>>21182234
>like the old DoJG deck formatting.
?
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Every time I see the word "kayui", I remember this https://vndb.org/v15167
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>>21182818
Depends on who's in here, some people help. You can usually figure anything out online though and you probably should be trying to say something you're unsure of yet.
>>21182825
Because japanese people won't correct you.
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>>21182897
>>21182899
thanks.
Kinda weird that I couldn't find it through radicals on jisho.
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背中が痒い
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>>21182485
How did you do it then?
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>>21182914
>my back is ugly
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>>21182906
that looks like a hentai game
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>>21182908
jisho's radical search is bad
https://jisho.org/search/%E7%97%92%20%23kanji
>Parts: 并 王 疔 羊
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looks good to me
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>>21182922
:O
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>>21182921
that's why you don't use google translate
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>>21182928
oh hey it works anyway even though the data is broken, how funny
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>>21182928
can sheep feel itchy
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>jisho's radical search is bad
no it's just you
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>>21182931
I didn't need to. Just wanted to see the romaji with mecab.
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>>21182928
Looks I was just blind then.
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>>21182939
the radical is sickness the sheep part is phonetic
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kinda refreshing to see some bads just bein bad in this thread was starting to think every1 just knew japanese lol
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>tfw 痒い was the first word of the doujinshi I just started to read
I'll never make it guys.
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>>21182947
what does that mean
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>バーン
>バーカ
It's funny how they always enunciate the fuck out of バ
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>>21182949
Read this https://vndb.org/v15167 and in one scene, the girl will say that word a lot. That will stick with you for your whole life.
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>>21182948
Its a huge spectrum friendo
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Go on nyaa and download atok 2017 . Best input methord you can enter everything handwriting kanji whatever you need. Thank me later
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>>21182952
my explanation was satisfactory
疒 radical 104 sickness
羊 onyomi よう
痒 onyomi よう radical 疒
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>>21182956
why she so itchy ?
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wool itches like fucking hell guys.
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>>21182966
That's the fun part anon. You must see it yourself.
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Pretty bad thread imo but how do we get it back on track?
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*points to dick*
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>>21182964
u lost me
do hitsusheepyou feel itchy or nah
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garyposting
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>>21182982
Keisei moji (形声文字)
Keisei (Mandarin: xíngshēng) characters are phono-semantic or radical-phonetic compounds, sometimes called "semantic-phonetic", "semasio-phonetic", or "phonetic-ideographic" characters, are by far the largest category, making up about 90% of the characters in the standard lists; however, some of the most frequently used kanji belong to one of the three groups mentioned above, so keisei moji will usually make up less than 90% of the characters in a text. Typically they are made up of two components, one of which (most commonly, but by no means always, the left or top element) suggests the general category of the meaning or semantic context, and the other (most commonly the right or bottom element) approximates the pronunciation. The pronunciation relates to the original Chinese, and may now only be distantly detectable in the modern Japanese on'yomi of the kanji; it generally has no relation at all to kun'yomi. The same is true of the semantic context, which may have changed over the centuries or in the transition from Chinese to Japanese. As a result, it is a common error in folk etymology to fail to recognize a phono-semantic compound, typically instead inventing a compound-indicative explanation.
a phonetic component, also called "rebus", Japanese 音符 (onpu), that is, a character with approximately the correct pronunciation.
a semantic component, also called a determinative, one of a limited number of determinative characters which supplied an element of meaning (in most cases this is also the radical under which a character is listed in a dictionary).
As in ancient Egyptian writing, such compounds eliminated the ambiguity caused by phonetic loans (above).

This process can be repeated, with a phono-semantic compound character itself being used as a phonetic in a further compound, which can result in quite complex characters, such as 劇 (豦 = 虍 + 豕, 劇 = 刂 + 豦).

Often, the radical is to the left, but there are many possible combinations, see Shape and position of radicals.
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didnt fuckin read lol
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I'm not reading that wall of text
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>>21182989
>mandarin
bro im learning japanese already no ty
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should've learned english before you embarked on japanese, noobs.
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strongly disagree considering how bad english speakers fail at japanese
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brush up on your onpu
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I should learn japanese in spanish instead.
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自分でもよくわからない衝動に駆られ、莫迦だらけの場所ここのとこをあとにした
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>not learning japanese in russian
They're one of the closest countries to japan but still western. Russian audio + japanese subs, it's the only way.
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>>21183003
lmao europoors are by far the biggest fails, you learned english without even trying so you think you can do the same thing with Japanese when you don't even know how you learned english in the first place.
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>>21183069
huh? ameripoops do the same
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>>21183069
huh
I'm not europoor but that's how I learned english
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>>21183069
>you learned english without even trying
True
>you think you can do the same thing with Japanese
I already did
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>>21183069
All the people who get good at more languages don't really know exactly how they do it either except that you don't do it through studying textbooks and grammar rules.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cMVTAuVafA
imagine having a cute japanese gf to make you osushi every day
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>>21183092
id walk in there and just flip the table then start fuckin her on top of the mess
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>>21183092
imagine being a racetraitor
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oh and id sing the song in rhythm to my pelvis hitting hers
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b-but jamal said i wouldn't have to learn grammar
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u learn grammar by enjoying stuff dude

i just say u dont have to study grammar until ur already proficient

big difference
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>>21183092
cute
why can't girl here be like that?
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cho- panessu
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>>21183166
dafuq
name?
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>>21183186
https://vndb.org/v7070
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I though dekinai was just a meme. I don't think I'm getting any better. If I learn one thing I forget something else. I use to take ginkgo biloba everyday while studying before maybe that's why I reached the level and just plateaued
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>>21183204
*thought
while starting to dekinai in English too....
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>>21183204
It's hard. You won't see your progress. You'll keep forgetting things. But you keep improving, gradually, over time, the more time you spend, as long as you don't spend all your time doing things that are truly useless like collecting studying materials or arguing on Reddit. Eventually you start actually getting good. And then you realize how valuable the practice you've put in really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
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Why do japanese write better erotica than the west?
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Because they are more hentai than the west.
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>>21183239
The language is more suited for describing sounds, abstract sensations, and random changes in state without sounding weird or specifying every little detail.
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i dont read any english erotica so it would be inappropriate for me to comment but lol @ the idea of doing anything erotic better than the west
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No they aren't. Murika has (them)
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gucho gucho
shiko shiko
chupo chupo
pan pan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpWuxvoMRWY ftw
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koki koki

imouto ashi saikou
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>>21183294
muh dick
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>>21183318
thats not ftw
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>射精
learned a new word
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congrats dude
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learned that word even before I started studying seriously
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Starting to read エロ was a pretty good decision for me.
Way more motivation to continue.
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>>21183294
i dont want to go to japan anymore...
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>>21183378
good
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>一卵性双生児
learned a new word
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>触手の髪
Guess what I'm reading.
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>>21183411
uhh if gis is to be trusted its hentai shit
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>>21183336
i guessed what this word meant
thanks RTK, I think i'm going to make it bros
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>>21183488
i guessed that ur a fuckin nerd thanks to RTK too
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why are the japanese so rude to white ppl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpXQKdKJwU#t=392
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>>21183547
what about this is rude?
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white ppl dont act like that and they just make up whatever they wanna put there that makes them sound how they want them to

bravo japan real mature haha metal fans are just a bunch of circus freaks
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based japan, fuck metal
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>>21183579
i mean the left side of the image is deffo trash but come on now this shit is practically beethoven tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3QJtY214CM
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btw both ppl in that pic have no idea how to even dress themselves i wouldnt take their opinion on anything seriously
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>>21183595
>>>/fa/
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>>21183595
not "icy" enough or no "swag" eh jamal?
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>>21183615
fuck swag just try not looking like a clown
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wtf can someone please explain how this makes sense? why would this be 矛盾? it doesn't make any sense at all.
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>>21183640
because women belong in the kitchen
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>>21183648
uh no. that doesn't sound right. only dekirus (quizmaster approved) answer please
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>>21183640
>>21183652
shes commenting on her manner of speaking in contrast to what would be expected
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>>21183652
>i'm a pretty little girl so I don't need to cook
>that's a contradiction (=women should cook even if they are pretty)
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>>21183665
but women shouldn't have to cook lol.. that's just simply 常識 and wouldn't have such a misogynistic thing in a game. you're obviously wrong and just using your 4chan incel brain here
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>>21183652
quizmaster here
i recognized all the kanji words in 0.5 seconds though i have no idea what the sentence means lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4DxPeLNVuw
second best song ever
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>>21183673
i mean its a game from japan dude come on now
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jibun mo futon ga daisuki

atatatakutte kimochii
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>>21183673
>wouldn't have such a misogynistic thing in a game
welcome to glorious nippon
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quizmaster here
i once sucked a cock and liked so much I do it all of the time now, that is all
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quizmaster here

im actually doing some really good things like enjoying anime but im also a huge obnoxious faget who doesnt know japanese yet but i prolly will get decent someday
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>恨みはらさでおくべきか
I'M TEARING MY HAIR LADS
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>21183727
>この恨み、はらさでおくべきか
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this is all of U lmao weeb ass niggas
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>>21183731
dont think thats gonna help him im pretty sure hiragana is like airman to these new age kids lol
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>>21183727
beats me man
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この恨み…地獄へ流します…
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>>21183727
https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/6039470.html
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>>21183733
nice self own
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>>21183752
てか自爆装置なんじゃない
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てかわたしはゲイなんじゃない
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Unsubbed JAV.
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What kanji is this?
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>>21183791
出会えてよかったって
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I got a bad ending in angel beats. There were words I didn't know but I got what they were saying. Such a sad ending...
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>>21183791
you some kind of dancing monkey and this is from your teacher? very nice, happy birthday. too bad they think you can't read kanji but I guess they were right to avoid it after all!
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>>21183805
i told u to just go play baseball btw theres alot of bad ends angel beats the game is like the dark souls of visual games
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>>21183819
But I wanted to see what happens if you refuse to join SSS. And joined the baseball club anyway.
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is there a fully japanese sadpanda? or a fully japanese torrent site like nyaa?
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amerikkkan weebs stay taking Ls lmao

そんな人もいるね
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>>21183802
That was my first thought but the word 出伝 doesn't not exist

>>21183803
Oh now it makes sense and I feel idiot cuz it was that easy. I just had to tilt my face 45 degrees

>>21183818
No it wasn't for me. I'm not 曜
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>>21183838
>tfw anon actually tries the game you recd him
Damn this is a new feel
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Will I die if I go for two days without reviewing my anki deck?
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>>21183857
I'm feeling tricked because it's definitely gonna be some weird high school drama shit and not real shonen but it's funny so I forgive you
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>>21183873
I took a month of and a return to form is totally possible and I think it's healthy. You just chip away at them for a few weeks without adding new words and you actually remember them even better. There will be a lot you half forget and you'll get like 30% retention for a while but the return is inevitable and you'll be even better especially if you used the down time for immersion.
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>>21183873
It happens if you're unmotivated and undedicated, and it's a sigh that you're not going to make it. But practically, if you set aside enough time on the 3rd and 4th days (if necessary) to catch up, the damage is not too bad.
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>>21183873
thanks for reminding me I almost spent all day reading and forgot to do it
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>>21183896
I read all day yesterday and it never feels nearly as productive as grinding vocabs and immersing in anime. I'm finally getting to the point reading can be fun though and I think once I'm at 90% comprehension I'l start figuring out words more from context.
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someone get me a link to dengeki stryker, i can only find it in english in nyaa and AB. does the manga gamer version come with japanese option?
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How come graded reader 3 and 4 aren't available on amazon? Anybody know where to get them? I did the first two and they helped.
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>>21183911
I just used some random public torrent I found on Google
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>>21183910
I can enjoy reading pretty anything and just pick up words from context except the really chuuni shit so I'm just avoiding it until I'm at 20k vocab from reading stuff that's average difficulty that has new words every 5k characters instead of every line like Muramasa
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>>21183945
When I dipped my toes into the shallows of Muramasa I was running into words I knew I didn't know pretty much constantly but I still knew what they meant and how to read them. I guess this is the power of reading, huh.
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>>21183945
Nice, yea I'm at 6k and not even close to trying any of the hard shit. 10k is where I think I'll start prioritizing reading more. I'm hoping around then I'll at least be familiar with all of the basic kanji.
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btw hope ya'll are playing CHOU dengeki stryker which has a bunch of extra shit and upgraded visuals
tho im not seeing a non-english version anywhere oddly enough
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>>21183920
>graded reader
oh no no no no
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>>21183971
>10k is where I think I'll start prioritizing reading more
what do you mean by this
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>>21183981
I'm reading 1 hour a day if I don't count subs or comments etc. and when I get to around 10k I'll make it about 5 hours a day because I'll be better at reading around then. I'll also be better at kanji so I won't need to review as much. Like I'll know the readings instinctively and whatnot.
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chou ukeru
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>>21183966
Chuunige love to use neologisms that don't really exist but are super obvious to understand and know the reading of. like 轟哮 or something
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>>21183972
im playing that dw. im actually gonna make a torrent and upload it to AB and Nyaa if anyone wants it
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>>21183994
man what are you doing how much time does your anki take lol
knowing a lot of words is a small part of reading
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>>21184009
i'll dl and help seed it just post itt when it's up
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>>21184020
Few hours. 1 hour for rtk, 2 hours for vocab. Most of my time goes to watching/listening to content. I feel like the immersion in content is the best way to start. I'm at 6k vocab and can hand write 1k kanji already. Only 8 months so far so I'm doing good.
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>>21183999
Muramasa is not a chuunige, it's true art.
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Posted here a week or so ago about learning 1000 kanji over summer break (4 months) but I can't find the post anymor