New guide:https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/Learn:https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.htmlhttps://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.htmlhttps://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/sakubi.htmlOld guide for those afraid of change:https://djtguide.neocities.org/Rules: No e-celeb faggotry.前スレ: >>21166398
So are the study hours estimates for each JLPT level accurate in your experience?
>>21174320no. no hours estimate is going to be useful, just learn Japanese and worry about stuff like this when you're ready
https://jsfiddle.net/pbL26rt9/1/embedded/resultaozora formatting subset/dialect to HTML Ruby. someone on Reddit was asking for a fucking hotkey to insert html for them instead of just asking for a better formatting tool of some sort. i don't actually use Reddit so here you guys go here's what i made today. just as useless as my life.
X 日本語O 漢語
>>21174282Stop making new threads while there's already one up, fucking newfag crossboarder.The current thread isn't even on page 10 yet and will survive for hours still.
>>21174916Calm down autism. 1100 replies is close enough.
>>21175001At the current rate it's half a day from disappearing.I'm sure you can make another thousand shitposts in that thread before it goes.
>>21175001That's how it's done. Shouldn't have to tell you.
>>21175038That girl looks like my ex that I still love and I don't want to learn japanese anymore because of youBack to spanish
>>21175044Your ex is pretty fugly.
I wish I could at least read sentences of kana, but this grammar is fucking my shit. Even in English I sucked with particles and verbs and adverbs, objects of verbs, subjects, etc.
>>21175089Particles are in English. Never heard of a dangling participle?
Why is this thread up? Anyway, fun little thing I saw yesterday: あわよくば (うまくゆけば。好機に会えば。)
looking for manga by >Maruo Suehiroall I was able to find were translations and みどりany sites where I could possibly find something like this?
Keep fighting the good fighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf9m4cRMVJw
I never consciously thought about this but 痕 having the kun-reading it has makes perfect sense if you think about it.
The quiz is the most accurate (and least detrimental to your anonymity) tool for determining who is a shitter and who isn't and maybe I'm being obnoxious about it but someone has to keep people aware that this thread is inhabited by nothing but beginners.https://streamable.com/zm165
>>21175400lets be real if you actually need to ask and take advice from random people in this thread you're not even high functioning and you will never get good anyways.
sabishisa no bangers
>>21175422>also can't reveal his voice in a recordingNobody on 4chan should be expected to reveal their voice on a recording for literally fucking anything.
>>21175422Fuck off and read the rules.>No e-celeb faggotry.
Anyone have any accurate chapter specific anki Tobira decks I could nab please? Or just a spreadsheet maybe? The official ones have cards missing and its a pain in the ass. Also the mega link for the decks on the guide are broken.
>>21175486I hope this is in every OP from now until the end of DJ.
Are these weird words in NHK News actual common words or newsy words? Stuff like 悲願、輩出、対象 just seem like very specialized words to me.
>get into JAP cos you can't find translations of a lot of shit>start learning JAP>can't find actual raw materials in JAP eitherI found a scanlating group to contact them about the original materials, but they have no contact to themwhere do I find that shit, it's not on nyaa, not in the DJT library - it must be either on some private tracker for raw manga or maybe Japs have a site like that with manga?looking for eroguro stuff
Fapping and reading at the same time is difficult.
>>21175735Not as going 寸前止め through several chapters in a VN.
>>21175579they're common as fuckgit gud
>>21175579All super common so that even I knew them and I can't even speak Japanese.
>>21175638>looking for eroguro stuffI was going to help you out but you need to absolutely neck yourself my man
>>21175856so you assumed im some sick fuck because im interested in reading it for whatever reasonremember that people may think the same about you browsing 4chan despite your good intentions
The most important daily reminder: わたしはゲイ
>>21175972I meant バイ
shitposting a word works better than ankiI remember when someone posted in every thread a tom&jerry pic and "と思う", if you're reading this, thank you for helping me memorize
>>21175638Scanlation groups usually don't share their scans anyway
>>21175089They don't function the same as in Japanese but basically almost every language has some grammar mechanism called particles.
How many cards had you gone through, when you realized it's a waste of time and dropped it?For me it was after around 700.
>>21174550>he can't read
Occasional reminder that you don't need to understand linguistics to have a valid understanding of language acquisition. It's perfectly valid to share your experiences with other people and make arguments based on incomplete knowledge as long as you don't step into pseudoscience. There are lots and lots of academics and armchair academics out there with strong opinions on things they have faulty understandings of, especially in linguistics. Life ain't a frat house.Krashen is right though.
nazeka epwing dictionaries from the last threadhttps://mega.nz/#!NQ8E1AwA!N1mdThi8AsUEdhZ3yAz3E5vuiUxEAdprkyZm5KaoZ08
>huge library in the guide>no Nagatoro
>>21175089Japanese particles are almost all basically postpositions that are called particles because it's unclear whether or not they're binding to the last word of the phrase they attach to.English has a bunch of prepositions that turn into particles when used in particle verbs, a special type of phrasal verb. It also has a few true particles, called such because they're grammatical function words that don't fall into any clear category and obviously aren't adverbs or conjunctions, like "not" and "to" (infinitive marker).Basically >>21176127
>>21176333watch lots of japanese, read lots of japanese, make cards out of words you dont know while doing thatthere i solved the riddle and if you disagree with this get gassed
>>21176421(mining technically optional even though it helps)
>>2117625120000 before I realized that I don't feel particularly enthusiastic about japanese media, so I switched to chinese. That was over ten years ago now.
>>21176675Chinese media must be way better!
>>21176251I do 20 minutes a day and it's good enough to spend exactly this amount of time on it.
>>21176684You'd be surprised at how the chinese language enables some pretty creative writing that just isn't possible with a language like Japanese. Not to mention that the sheer amount of chinese media being produced almost guarantees that a large amount is high quality media. To be honest I only mastered japanese as something to do on the side as I studied for my university degree, I never actually cared much for the country or its' culture.
>>21176699>mastered japaneseYou know the drill. Toradora dramatic reading now.
you mean there's chinese media besides state propaganda, uncensored porn and state propaganda uncensored porn?
>>21176713I say "mastered" but I stopped after I got to kanji kentei level one. To be honest there are probably still some grammar points I wouldn't be able to wrap my head around.
>>21176718Well yeah, its called shit from Taiwan and shit from Hong Kong. Note that all Hong Kong dubs are shit. Seriously, for some reason, it is like they can only hire maybe six voice actors for any work and pretty much sound all the same.
So, technically speaking, I could just learn japanese by learning hiragana and katakana, learning grammar and then just reading a lot of content in japanese, right?
>>21176742Pretty much. The best part about it is once you've laid the foundation all that otherwise meaningless anime is going to build your vocabulary and language skills instead of just going to shit as they do if you didn't understand the language.
>>21176742Yes, learning grammar takes more effort than people usually anticipate though. There's more patterns here than you initially might think.However sometimes I'm not sure where people draw a distinction between what constitutes specific vocabulary use and a grammar point.Realistically the most time goes into expanding vocabulary. On average people seem to underestimate grammar and overestimate Kanji in terms of effort and importance.
>>21176742if everything you read has furigana on everything, sure.most things don't.
>>21176783Well you can always look up the readings in a dictionary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mUhCtquQUhow's my Japanese?
holy fuck that accent
>>21176810need to watch more anime/10
Yamato Nadeshiko means woman right?So what does yamato and nadeshiko mean on its own? Nothing? All I’m getting is that they are names, but maybe Nadeshiko can stand on its own and mean the same thing?
Question.What Japanese dictionary app do you guys recommend?
>>21176866qolibri and JP-JP only
>>21176839just quit now
>>21176839I knew what was a yamato nadeshiko even before I started learning japanese.
why cant i see anything other than dekinai here?
Choose この素晴らしい世界に祝福を！for my first novel to read. What am I in for?
>>21177091you see yourself in dekinais
What exactly does おマ〇コして mean?
＞亡なくなりましたwhy is yomichan telling me its pronounced as 亡くなったplease explain
>>21177250i meant 亡くなりました
look to the right retard
>>21177270i dun ge eet
>polite pastif you can't correlate mashita with polite you haven't even wathed any anime what are you doing on this board
>>21177287I don't like anime I only read manga in english.
wheres growlanser guy and nanarin guy how r u guys doing
>>21177287but why does the り becomes a る
>>21177302This is like one of the very first things covered in any grammar guide. What the fuck are you doing?
>>21174282haven't been here in over two years, what the fuck is with that layout for the new guide? the minimalist look of the old one was fine
>>21177302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhyrskGBKHE&t=1sVerb stems, watch your Dollys.
>>21174535I don't need it, but good work! Keep on going, anon :)
>>21177308They told me to read vns as soon as I finish learning my kanas.
>>21177169you know thats not true, right?
Watch 東京独身男子 for secret techniques.
oh no, itazuranigger has fucked with the site again.and once again, he hasn't fixed a single problem with the design in the process.
>>21177326he made the extra navigation more obvious, that's an improvementit's obviously way more ugly but now there's also bigger cute girl in the background so that's cool
>>21175522Tobira offers official decks! You can get those here: http://tobiraweb.9640.jp/contents/漢字・語彙教材/とびらankiデジタルフラッシュカード/
>>21175977私はアセクシャルDoes that even work? Who knows
>>21176866App as in on PC? Tagaini Jisho and Takoboto.On phone? I don't use one, so I can't help you with that.On kindle I just installed JMDICT (https://github.com/jrfonseca/jmdict-kindle)
>>21177317that's a dude
>>21177336>it's obviously way more uglyso why didn't he just make drop down menus that appear on hover under the top links? his design decisions are just so baffling. and the navigation is still wrong because you have some grammar guides placed under "learn" and others under "grammar" for god only knows what reason.not to mention those redundant, misleading "learn" and "read" links on the landing page. "learn" needs to be changed to "guide" since that's where it actually goes and "read" needs changing to "learning resources" or something since there's more than just manga and books there.
>tfw had a date all day saturday and spent all of sunday recovering>tfw just remembered to check anki100% still worth it
>>21177389he really just needs an offline site generator. I'd make him one but I don't know the guy or what he wants out of his web design. his HTML and CSS are super bad but that's to be expected of anyone who hasn't been writing it for like a decade so it's not really a point against the guy
How many hours of eng subbed anime do I require to reach N2?
>>21177408~700,000hrs in my experience
>>21177408idk dude i cant really give u an estimate of how many hours of eng subbed anime it takes to get to some arbitrary level of not knowing japanese sorry
What kind of cards do you do and what's your answer time per card?
>>21177456v2k shit sorry I mean vncore
Damn, I started reading angel beats and there's so much words I don't know...I don't want to be a dekinai...
>>21177550get back to studying bro you're not ready to read yet
>>21177550just join the 野球部 and dont worry abotu shit : )imagine readign angel beats and not understanding how bad maeda is at comedic relief lmao
>>21177558>>21177569I somehow understand what they're talking about because I watched the anime when it came out and I remember everything but...Back to studying, I guess...
>>21177575its not really like the anime tho other than obviously the main plot
>>21177575reading the same stuff you've watched seems like a good strategy i was just kidding man studying is bullshit
>>21177581The beginning appears to be the same though. Maybe some new dialogues here and there.
i watch anime with jp subs once, then i rewatch it with jp subs and english subs. will I make it bros
>>21177598english is useless
english is actually good as hell in the beginningif u throw away ur native language u have 0 chance of getting anywhere in another language by urself
How do I ask a japanese guy if he is gay?
>>21177691anta homo desuka
One of these things is not like the other...
>>21177712china girl, geisha and gaijin
>>21177707its not gay to fuck
>>21177720it kind of is though mate
>>21177712the one on the left doesnt belong tell her u cant understand her and to go back to her country
>>21177722kind of isnt actually tho
Still so many cards due. Life is hard.>>21177777This is a quote from the future.
>>21177729Just do German by reading/consuming content. Honestly. It shares the same alphabet and isn't that far from English.Viel Erfolg!Also what's inside of "ZZZ"?
>>21177729this is beyond drone status
>>21177733Decks I have no interest in maintaining presently, but which I may get around to at some point.
>>21177729Why are you doing that to yourself?
>>21177722>>21177728actually i take it back https://streamable.com/atnby
>>21177712corrected a couple mondais for you m8
https://jsfiddle.net/957x6vqw/embedded/resulthttps://jsfiddle.net/957x6vqwthere I fixed your HTML and CSS, now look in to offline site generators so you can make every single page look the same without manually rewriting them
erm i dont need you to fix my html and css https://streamable.com/yg0wk
>>21177778bud that looks shit
>>21177807yea it looks like shit it's what itazuraneko is trying to make it look like tho i'm just making it not broken
>>21177778Looks too simple.
lmao kanji is a traiwreck. What a joke of a language.
>>21177817no bud it looks worse narrow the screen and see how yours falls apart
>>21177837kanji is easy
>>21177798Guess we write in romanji now.
>>21177778oh i'm missing a close div tag before <div id=bottomicon>, fix that>>21177839sorry i don't use phones
>>21177847Reminds me of me crying because I suck and making proportions / positioning.Add one element and everything is different.
>>21177859that usually just means that your html is too nasty/long to edit directly and you should be using a static site generator instead, not really your fault
im reaching enlightenment on the anki question>my sentence cards may as well be vocab cards cuz i don't read them>definitions are pretty worthless as long as i know the pronunciation i'll probably find out the meaning through readingseems like what khatz had in mind was taking your cards very seriously and spending hours on them when i wanna get done in 20 minutes
>>21177875You're going to make it.
>>21177863Yeah, it was my second time doing something with CSS and stuff, the first time were my anki cards ... and I was on a time limit I had NOT set for myself.I'm going into a different area with design anyway, but I learnt a bunch of stuff doing it
>>21177882Just do what nippon does and make all your websites jpgs
itazuraneko is maintained by a shoshinsha? Must be a lot of work, seems like a lot of content.
>>21177315No. This layout is great. Minimalist is for teenage contrarians. Keep it up, webdesigner.
>>21177895and still no Nagatoro somehow.
>>21177456core 2k/6k optimized (I know vncore is better, but I like the quality native audio and the well made sentences of the 2k/6k deck).answer time per card: 14 seconds, is it bad?
https://jsfiddle.net/k7nfxvmr/embedded/resulthttps://jsfiddle.net/k7nfxvmr/embeddedthere, now it responds to tiny screens, are you happy
oh i guess i should remove the vertical margin on the central navigation on tiny screens lol
>>21177456RTK deck 80% done with avg answer time of 23.7 seconds
https://jsfiddle.net/x2t540fz/embedded/resultthere, that should be all
Does 助ける sound like "DA su ke ru" for anyone else?
>>21177980Sounds like task-eru for me, with the 'u' in su dropped.
>>21177980you're looking for word-initial aspiration to indicate that the consonant is unvoiced, but this aspiration is optional in japanese, unlike english
>>21177983yeah that actually happens good job you're hearing it properlythe s should feeits own syllable though like ta-ss-ke-ru
honestly i'd set up my own neocities with the non-pirate stuff and keep the styling stable if i didn't feel like it would make itazuraneko feel like i'm trying to steal the site from him and make him either break again or stop working on collecting reading materials
>>21177456I currently do:front: KanjiBack: Kanji, picture with meaning I associate with the character, meanings of the kanji, example word with furigana.Goal: Recall the meaning of the character.Current answer time: 4.2sec, but I'm pretty new into the deck.Pic related (back of card). It can be really funny sometimes.
theres nothing funny about that u are fucked
>>21177467>>21177946>>21177946When I said "what kind of cards", I meant as in sentence, vocab, reading, kanji (recognition/production), etc., not "what deck" (e.g. mining, core, whatever).>answer time per card: 14 seconds, is it bad?Yeah, that's pretty slow. Vocab cards (like in the Core deck) should be taking you under 10 seconds per card.
Where should I get manga that isn't in the guide library?
>>21178012Different people, different humor. And I'm not fucked in the least because I remember "plan/intention" by knowing that the image ties that someone (at least you think that) is planning to do something.
>>21178026google or jcafe24
You did your listening today, right anon?
>>21178032Oh, I didn't know there was manga on nyaa, thanks.
gary made an account just to btfo rarepotato
>>21178031i try to do my 24 hours a day every day desu but sometimes my headphones fall off in my sleep
>20 minutsenot going to make it
lmao tse tung
>>21178040>I didn't know there was manga on nyaawhat the fug
>>21178089Only used it for anime
>>21178031Watched one episode of anime, one episode of gaki no tsukai and a couple Japanese youtuber videos. Going to watch atleast another 7 episodes of anime tonight
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20190415/k10011884391000.html?utm_int=all_side_ranking-access_001>daiweeb down>see thishmmmm
imagine going to japan and downloading anime like usual and getting busted and thrown in the brig lol
>>21178165He was uploading it. Some filthy 韓国籍の男 touched our glorious anime.
>>21178172no i know they always go after the provider but just go with my what ifimagine a dude just torrenting the latest anime and leaves his puter on seeding accidentally and then gets jailed for the rest of his life
>>21178148How fucking stupid to you have to be as a Jap living in Japan to run a piracy site? What was this guy thinking?
>>21177601then why are you writing in english?
>>21178191Clearly not thinking with a VPN
>>21178191He was a filthy チョン, not a Japanese.
>>21178199why would you bother to make this pointless retort
imagine getting a life sentence in prison for sharing shitty anime like world trigger lol
dont you dare share files goy
>>21178213why would you bother to make this pointless retort to my pointless retort?
>>21178207>VPNYou really think that keeps you safe?https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29
Question. Have anyone here tried buying Japanese ebooks on google play or Amazon (is this even possible)?There are certain things that I can't seem to torrent on so I want to know. Or else I'm going to have to force myself to get a physical copy.
生きてみようか今更 I read that the verb is conjugated to mean will to live with the よう but i dont understand why the み is thier? This is probably stupid but i cant find the anwser
>どうして？どうして関係者なのにみんな帰っちゃうの？>why? why did everyone leave despite being related to the event?am i reading that right?
>>21178225cuz ur a fag who tried to "own" me by taking my post out of context just to say "but you speak english XDDDDDD"
>>21178228joke's on you i'm behind seven proxies
>>21178232it's from 生きてみる
>>21178233>why did everyone leave>am i reading that right?No since that sentence isn't past tense.
>>21178228I'll stop believing that when Nord and Pia goes out of business.Also, have fun not getting sniffed on a public wifi network.
>>21178250oh fuck mebut besides that did i get the gist of that sentence down?
Does hating Koreans count as immersing yourself?
>>21178253m8https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/hidemyass_lulzsec_controversy/^ This provider is still in business to this day. There are no end of shitty, awful companies which survive and even thrive in spite of their horrible, unethical business practices.A company being in business says absolutely nothing about its trustworthiness.
>>21178231Amazon works fine, havent tried google. You need to make a japanese amazon account and then add a shipping or billing address to that account. But you can just use any old "valid" address, i think i put in the address of Tokyo Tower and it was fine. As long as you buy only digital goods you're good.Just note that if you use a Kindle you cant quicky swap accounts, so if you have an account from a different country with books on it you need to log out of that, which deletes all your books from your device and is quite a slow process.
japs are so backwards they think archiving media should warrant a jail sentence
Are the fucks at daiweeb too stupid to figure out their hosting or what. At first I thought they might have been taken down, but aparently it's just general incompetence.
>>21178317no cute yuri animu today then i guess... will watch this anime instead
>daiweeb>incompetence pick 2
>>21178236are you annoyed? you seemed to take my pointless retorts very seriouslysorry, I didn't think that my dry sense of humor would be this badly received
>>21177946Everything is slow in the beginning, you should ease into it and worry about stuff like that later on. My answering times are 7-8s but I've been at it for little over a year now so it's only natural.
>>21177946>>21178373I one day noticed i was taking quite long and made a conscious decision to speed up, and have continously lowered my times since even though reviews are going up and now am down to 5.5s (or sometimes even lower) per card. Retention suffered a bit, but has now stabilized at 88 - 90%.Am 5000 cards in after 4.5 months.But yeah, definitely gets much easier to speed up as you get more comfortable with readings and worry more about meanings. Wouldn't worry too much about it in the beginning. Or even at all unless you take so long it really stops you from immersion.
>>21174320if your study is just reading then halve them for more accurate estimates
another word that is missing definitions in jmdict玉体
>>21178436Working for me in rikaikun, yomichan and jwpce
>new sao>instead of dual wield kirito it's now two kirito
>>21178443I'm saying it is lacking definitions that appear in Japanese dictionaries, not that it doesn't have some definitions
>>21178436Stop using outdated dictionary software.
>>21177233was that a full size standard maru are we allowed to use it now 〇>>21177297main route was good but thinkin about skippin yumi after i finish azusa today even though all routes is in my naturei think i missed a true end so ill look for that though lol
only thing i ever hear about sao is how shit it is
>>21178466? all j-e dictionaries have the same data from jmdict. it's not a question of software
i wnna fuck blonde kirito
>>21178485JMdict updates on a daily or weekly basis. Some people stick to rikaisama despite it being very much out of date.
>>21178494regardless of your little factoid, you can go and check the current entry in the jmdict yourself and see that it's lacking definitions that are in all good J-J dictionaries
Why are some potential form from words included in dictionaries. Can i add 1 more potential verb transformation on them or they are just indexed like that in the dictionary?
>>21178535Probably they are used as nouns, but give an example.
>>21178547焼く ・ 焼ける
>>21178556that isn't a potential form lol, it's two different verbs, one transitive and the other intransitive. another cases of dumbasses asking dumb questions based on a fundamental misunderstanding
>>21178611ok senpai thanks . So i guess only the original forms are recorded in the dictionary wow thats a relief.
>>21178556Yeah those are different verbs as other anon said.What I meant when I said that they might be used as nouns were words like 焼け, which is the noun form.
>>21178641Yep yep got it, i encountered a few words like that and they confused me but now i know. Though i knew about the stem being a noun and didn't mistake it
sou ja najibun ha gei jaonushi mo ja
>>21178447Why the fuck would you watch SAO?
>>21178786cuz the lns are the best wooo
>>21178820then read them
>>21178447>>21178455Who are you quoting?
>>21178228Yeah idk why VPNs are the thing when I really want a proxy so I can set up rules to send certain requests thru the proxy. Like why would you let another party look at all your traffic. I tried to find a good Japan proxy that would let me access the sites that are blocked but I couldn't.
>>21178963The post above theirs. Are you blind?
>>21178965"watching sao" isn't in the first post. Are you blind?
>>21178971There's a post between the two posts you linked. Are you blind?
>>21178975No there isn't, and none of quotes in either of those posts are in the thread. Are you blind?
>>21178515You should add them.
>>21178982Clearly you are the only one here who can't see them
>>21177293That's nice but manga isn't reading.
>>21179023then how do get what the characters/narrator are saying if you don't read the text bubbles?
How long should it take me to learn Hiragana?
>>211790851-2 days if you are not a brainlet, 1 week if you are a brainlet.I recommend you do hiragana and katakana together. Write 1 line of hiragana and 1 line of katakana.
>>21179092You are kidding right
If you can't learn all the hiragana in a week you might as well give up my dude.
lets take a moment and remember + celebrate the life and times of @sentenceminer
>>21179098"learn" is different from "master." you should be able to learn the kana in a couple days, but it will still be a while until you completely internalize the relationships between the symbols and the sounds and are able to reproduce them without consciously thinking about it.but that doesn't mean you should "study the kana" until that happens, that would be a waste of time
shut up retard u are not an educator
>haven’t been here in several months>reading level has improved greatly>realize now you guys just write vulgar trash in herecool
Then why you come here? just fly yourself to Japan if you don't like our advice. Kanas are easy to learn if you put work into it. after that is just grammar and grinding novels.
>>21179128maybe you got better at japanese but I got way better at shitposting in the meanwhileあなたはゲイ
>>21179128Who are you quoting?
We don't "greentext" around these places boy, now pull down your pants so you can receive proper punishment.
>>21179128congrats on being able to read うんこ and まんこ very 上手い
>>21179131that wasn't me.
>>21179143>implying I'm not going to write my posts with green meme arrows anyway
Why is it so easy to spot the /v/ermin?
>>21179144Gary Gato Gozaymoss.
>>21179155You need to go back to >>>/a/.
read this or die
>>21179085https://realkana.com like a day if you just sit and do this all day
>>21179182your mom is a whore
>>21179205i should have said read this or die silently without crippling every1s nihongo in ur death throes
>>21179128some posts are tame but will also permanently cripple ur nihongomaybe what ur lookin for is what imouto poster can provide
>>21179208no way dude
>>21179211that's not crippling anyone's nihongo, don't make me bust out some real trash-ass posting because i'll absolutely ruin this thread with my sub n5 prose
>>21179240sure gimme a topic i'll freestyle that shit for you
what's the name of that shit? the one that goes in ga, za , da , ba. you know the one
There are literally tens of thousands of Japanese words that I don't know.
>>21179250this will never not be true
>>21179250There are literally tens of thousands of English words that you don't know.
>>21179299That isn't true, I read the whole dictionary once.
well i hope it was worth it
how long have u been "studying" nihongo and how much of this do u "understand" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9k9v1_MxgU
>>21179414"living japan くそやべぇ"
sao is bad would rather watch literally .hack sign
>>21179583.hack//sign owns thojust because you had different expectations from what the show ended up giving you doesn't make it bad
>>21179098it takes 1 like a day for each kana and a few more days to get it nailed into your headand idk how long until you start reading them extremely naturally but it happens eventuallyi remember starting out and i had to sound them out real slow like a retard
>>21179588it's bad on retrospect better than any of the other the world r1 dot hack media thoughgu > sign > dusk > etc
>>21179639>i remember starting out and i had to sound them out real slow like a retarddont make me remember sucking that hard
Words are a lot easier once you've memorized them.
words are a lot easier once youve read a lot
it's time to for the daily reps
>>21179831You might want to work on your Japanese, incelくん.
>>21178743sooo you tryna have an orgy??
>>21179791memorized them and then read them a lot
>>21180092memorization is optional
>>21179987There is nothing wrong in my post the only error I already corrected it on the following post and the country Niger is spelled as ニジェール since the country Niger can't be spelled as nigger and it doesn't have a kanji name I decided to use the kanji for black and monkey and stick them together since that is the closest I could get to change the name of the country to something racist in Japanese.
How important is it for me to be able to handwrite every kanji from memory?
>>21180217Do you want to know Japanese or do you want to be a kanjilet japaneselet like 99% of djt?
>>21180217very important if you wanna master every aspect of your inner nihonjin
>>21180217very important if u want to be able to handwrite kanji from memory
>>21180217Very important. Else you're just an illiterate and your understanding of Kanji is just very superficial.
>>21180217not important at all
damn look at these japanese natives dragging the shit out of steve for saying japanese is easy
>>21180217Japanese IS KanjiIf not for kanji there would be a massive horde of weeaboos speaking Japanese.Also writing in full kanji helps you impress normies.綺麗看護婦狂三時崎波御壽司遠喰うHow a faggot dekinai would write the sentence above: きれいな看護婦クルミトキサキはお寿司を食べる
>>21180380lmao they're just butthurt because they had to spend 80% of their time in school learning this bluepilled language
>>21180380is that the same video where he mixes up nihongo and koreansteve is just so fuckin good that he became bad
>>21180380monolinguals are the worst no matter what language they speak. English monolinguals love to circlejerk about how hard and "crazy" English is to learn, despite no language being inherently more difficult than any otherof course most Japanese are also monolingual cucks despite years of compulsory English education so it behooves them to believe the one language they do speak is somehow special
>>21180523ruin your culture goy
>>21180391japanese looks better than chinese, also, if I wanted to write in full kanji, I'd learn chinese
>>21180582>japanese looks better than chinese否
plz remember japanese is cute and chinese is scary
The fact that 支える can mean two completely different things shows this languages completely useless.
the fact that 壺 can mean two completely different things shows this languages completely useless
>>21180735read more hentai
>>21180752肉壺 returns no results on jisho, does it mean something stupid like fanny
>>21180718>>21180752these words at least share an idea sasaeru and tsukaeru dont
>>21180758first time i saw it i thought sobut then i saw 俺のツボを刺激する in the context of a handjob and wondered if that first usage was the samebut i might be mistakenin that case change my example usage to 思うつぼ
>>21180783meant for >>21180768
>>21180783>>21180791>思うつぼ>〔「つぼ」は，博打（ばくち）でさいころを入れて振るもの〕I mean it's thin but they still share an idea
>share an ideaI mean they all have etymologies talking about literal ツボs
it's the same kogo
>>21180822that makes sensebut i dont think sasaeru and tsukaeru are that disparate
>badass tier己>good tier自分我>okay tier俺私>ゲイ tier僕
>>21179250There are literally tens of thousand of words in my native language that I don't know.
>>21180922where's 儂, the best one?
>>21180940It'a cute when little girls use it.
wow gay thread i only read this for e-celeb
>>21180940badass when used by menthot indicator when used by women
is 2chan.net the real 2ch?
>>211811582chan and 2ch (2channel) are different things.
>>21181172then what is the URL of 2ch (2channel)?
by the time u learn japanese the chans wont even exist anymore lol
>>21181269quizmaster strikes again
>>21181279That's not me fyi.
obviously cuz its not cut and pasted anime phrases
>>21181307I never copy and paste. Everything I say is original.
>俺>当たり前>obviously cuz its not cut and pasted anime phrases
i mean he was nice enough to preface his post with a big dont read me sign in "俺の日本語" but i dont think that constitutes animego in and of itself
>>21181338You know how to roast someone!>nice enough to preface his post with a big dont read me sign in "俺の日本語"
>>21181325ppl say 俺 and 当たり前 in real life tho lol
>>21181200it's 5ch now
Anyone use online groups for Japanese culture and language learning? Trying to find more Japanese to practice talking to. Every other group I find is full of desperate Indians and Indonesians
groups are for zoomersgo on ur own and make ur own special nipponjin no tomodachis and make special omoides lol
>>21180380Anyone got a YouTube account? Ask them to comment on Matt's new speaking video.
>>21181459>Anyone use online groups for Japanese culture and language learning? Trying to find more Japanese to practice talking to.If only there was a board here where you could write in Japanese with Japanese speakers.
>>21180217It depends on your goals; do your goals make being able to handwrite kanji necessary? What do you want to do with Japanese?
I'm going to sleep DJT good night oyapoopy
一人にさせないでよ : (
If you are lonely you can quiz me anytime.
hi how big is ur benis :DDD
the wiener is not much to speak of but the balls are of considerable circumference lol
>>21181568women must be over you all the time
Is 頭 as あたま in「頭を振る」wrong?
>>21181573as for women こりごり lol
anata wa gei ka
>>21181576whats ur issue>>21181592まあたまにね>>21181599well its still a good time to invest in hyundai lol
>>21181576Uhm, no, that's how it's read ...
>>21180380lol, the dekinai yamatojin
>>21181622i like the adam comment its literally the equivalent of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA
>>21181613>whats ur issue>>21181619It is just cause when you google it you get 頭を振る(カブリヲフル)
i mean if u want the english equivalent just stick with 首を振る
why do VNs have such long titles?I mean 「寝取られ男の娘 ～俺の幼馴染みの無邪気な彼女（男の娘）がまさか粗暴な体育教師に弱みを握られて調教されていつの間にか快楽に溺れてアヘアヘダブルピースでビデオ撮影されて喜んでいただなんて！！～」 seems a bit too much, there's more story in the title than in the game
琉球独立 Free okinawa アイヌ独立 Free Ainu 核兵器 Nuclear weapon 原子爆弾 Atomic bomb 人間宣言 Humanity Declaration 広島・長崎 Hiroshima・Nagasaki 731部隊 Unit731 鳴梁海戦 Battle of Myeongnyang 真珠湾 Pearl Harbor 神風攻撃隊 Kamikaze 慰安婦 Comfort women 戦争犯罪 War crime 南京大虐殺 Nanjing Massacre ダグラス・マッカーサー Douglas MacArthur 憲法第9条 Article 9 of the Constitution 関東大震災朝鮮人虐殺 Kanto Massacre 李舜臣 Yi Sun-sin 沖縄戦 Battle of Okinawa 枢軸国 Axis powers マニラ大虐殺 Manila massacre 東條英機 Hideki Tojo 太平洋戦争 Pacific War 倭寇 Wokou 連合国軍最高司令官総司令部 Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers(GHQ) 戦犯裕仁 Hirohito 戦犯国 War criminals country 部落問題Burakumin 夜這いYobai 竹島Dokdo/Takeshima 尖閣諸島Senkaku Islands/Diaoyudao Qundao 千島列島 Kuril Islands バッキー Bakky Visual Planning 女子高生コンクリート詰め殺人Murder of Junko Furuta 援助交際 Enjo kosai 痴漢 Chikan、 Japino、唐行きさん Karayuki-san、 琉球独立、 アイヌ独立、任那日本府廃棄、 百済、 白村江の戦い、 文禄・慶長の役、独立、主権回復、佐川一政、 食人、 人肉、 いじめ、亀甲船、牟田口廉也、 インパール作戦 、第二次世界大戦、敗亡、敗戦、用薬須知続編、人中黄
>>21181705What do you mean "stick with"? 頭を振る comes up in pretty much every book and I just want to know if I'm reading it right.
>>21181716nuki games generally have real in ur face titles imagine how much more boring and throwaway it would be if it was just 寝取られ男の娘 lmao
>>21181716i prefer when they're funny ones like 俺はツマキラー ～妻５人、娘５人、親娘丼おかわりっ！～ or synopsis of what the plot for it is like 頭に爆弾 ～24時間以内にSEXしないと死んじゃう！～
>>21181722well most of the time its not あたま then cuz its an expression but that doesnt mean it cant ever be あたま just most of the time it isnt and honestly it doesnt really matter unless ur like the adam guy in this comment >>21180380
「なら話しゃいいんだろ、聞いてやる」what is ゃ?
>>21181760話したら －＞ 話しゃ
>>21181765so 食べたら ＝ 食べゃ ？
in the case of 食べる it would be 食べにゃ
>>21181793Whats the rule i searched everywhere but i couldn't find even a spec of explanation for japanese contractions. Does someone perhaps have resources? What are the rules?
its called 猫語 its pretty simple
>>21181805pretty sure it is a dialect, hataka ben?
>>21181805where did you get the sentence from?
>>21181829ncode.syosetu elf was speaking . Was just confused why 食べる would be 食べにゃ
What do DJT's cards look like?
>>21181848simple and effective
>>21181775I don't think you do that with ichidan verbs. You use the ば form instead and contract to りゃ（食べれば＞食べりゃ）.>>21181839I don't think it would. At least, I don't remember ever reading/hearing it. Pretty sure he's fucking with you.
>>21181913problem is u still have anki installed which is like having a empty syringe sitting thereur gonna eventually do somethin stupid with it eventually and ruin ur life
>>21181893this nigga doing sentence cards!
>>21181924as long as he keeps it this short i don't see any problem.
>>21181848I posted these before but yeah those are my vocab cards (currently only do kanji now though but those cards are not very pretty because formatting with images is a pain)
>>21181916Thank you for explaining.
>>21181884How do you make these? Also, are those just exposure cards or do you just skip over quickly for the word in the video?
>>21181933Note: The font on the kana has since been changed to the font of the kanji, I just was too lazy to make new screens and I threw my newer ones away
>>21181945Don't start plz
>>21181945The very left. It's my original card design.On the front is only the word. I use ShareX, Yomichan and a website. I posted a guide before maybe I'll post it again.
>>21181953>>21181893 is minei've been doing ajatt for 14 months now and my anki reviews only take 5 minutes a day nowadays. your pic is pointless.
I thought doing anki was bad...
>>21181973Cool. You up for a quiz challenge?
>>21181953heh, my cards really are the best
>>21181973your post is pointless
>>21181982sure. how tho?
>>21181953I'm more motivated to do my cards if they look pretty/remind me of something I like, and I don't do them for hours anyway. (mine are the ones with the pic in the background)If you're in for your eyes, just read with an eInk screen. Which is what I do on a daily basis.
>>21181989https://discord.gg/Cc7D6cwJoin this chat.
i think im gonna install anki so i can make a card that i think is funny
>>21181984increase the space between translation and image and it will be indeed perfect
Date A Live became Date A Loli
hows my flashcards
>>21181999here's a fun one just for you https://streamable.com/koz81
>>21182018thats not a flashcard but that is a funcard shoutouts to yung kage
>>21182016Looking good anon, you're definitely gonna make it.
>>21181954Please stop posting a defaced version of my image.
>>21182035I will if you come to the quiz and beat me.
if u wanna quiz uve come to the right place
>>21182027hey it made me learn that word pretty well
quiz me outside
>>21181973>sentence cards>5 minutes a daygoing to need some broofs my friendpost your stats
ill quiz u in the parking lot fucka its goin down
what's the fastest way to look up unknown kanji when reading manga?
>>21182083>reading mangaNo such thing.
>>21182131what do you mean?
At this point I'm pretty sure itazuraneko has some kind of brain damage that keeps him from telling that his designs are ugly. Unbalanced margins and a lack of padding are pretty obvious problems. Not to mention how ugly it is to mix gray and yellow. Really reminds me of someone.
>>21182135Manga isn't reading.
>>21182140tbqh the site isn't there to look good, he can do what he wants with it as far as i am concerned. It has good resources and that is what people need.
>>21182151If it's too ugly then people will close it reflexively right after opening it, just like https://anidb.net/
>HINT: Don't like the way AniDB looks? There are a number of alternative styles available for registered users.
>>21178887Can we go back n just appreciate that the quizmaster is such a dweeb that he literally reposted his own shit just with no kaiki avatar thinking nobody could tell its him
Registration bait is, also, bad. Leave that shit in the 90s. AniDB's theme is just plain broken.
>>21182190Not him but the alternative styles all look like dogshit as well. They're just re-colors of the existing, ugly as shit layout.
I know is bad, just find it funny lol
>>21182151>tbqh the site isn't there to look goodBut it is there to help people, which it doesn't do a very good job of when people can't find what they're looking for because of the retarded design decisions.And god it's so fuckin ugly. Why can't he just stop fucking with it? Everything he does just makes it descend to a whole new level of shit.
The thing is that even with a bad design idea you can make it look passable by getting the details right. As far as I can tell, itazuraneko is basically going out of his way to pick details that are ugly. It would make me feel bad for him if I didn't know that it's just his way of feeling like he's standing up against something, like the old DoJG deck formatting.
>>21182232Why don't you do your own site?
>>21182238not him but I'd do a site if I somehow knew that itazuraneko would keep working on the library and CoR, which I have no interest in
I mean, if you don't like it, make your own or just don't fucking use it. Why get angry for something you can't control?
Don't like, don't read! :D
>>21182234He's just immersing. We all know Japan can't into webdesign. Presumably that's why /djt/ is overrun with lowercase posters as well.
>>21182264I'm not angry. I'm disappointed.
>>21182268dont tell this guy thathttps://streamable.com/yg0wk
STOP LOWERCASE POSTING
or what pussy
Alright, I can't get KanjiTomo to work, even not through Java.Any alternatives?
>>21182315Program it yourself
>>21182315Search by radicals on jisho.
>>21182320Yeah, this could help you escape brainlet status
>>21182315Just become me.https://vocaroo.com/i/s1aATcqjXqgG
>>21182315Draw it out on Google Translate
>>21182319That could do.
are u a brainlet ? click here to find out
>>21182325Who asked you, quiz boy?
>>21182337google translate actually recognizes kanji really well, jisho does it too but really really horrible so don't use that
>>21182315get gboard on your phone and get the handwriting inputthen you can just write that shit right into jisho.org
>>21182331Quizzing is the new standard. You are a relic of the past. This is our thread now.https://streamable.com/46ur5
How well does the camera recognition feature on Google Translate (on phone) work?
>>21181721where's comfort womyn
So, how do I study new words I encounter when reading? Anki or just paper and pen?
Using ((google)). THeres literally no hope for you people
>>21182387You are free to do whatever you like. You going to ask me to wipe your butt next? Christ you need to tidy yourself up a bit man.
another word in jmdict that's lacking definitions薄皮
>>21182394Thanks, now I know that I can't ask for advice here.
>>21182398things like "thin leather" and membrane?That's in the german jdict. I thought the german one was worse??
>>21182387Don't learn them at all, you'll know them once you encounter them often enough.
>>21182400You should have known when I single handedly outquizzed this entire chat. Now you can leave this place behind without looking back. Honestly I don't think you ever stood a chance asking something that dumb though.
>>21182410There are no dumb questions.
>>21182387Depends on the approach. If you already know a handful of words and are not a complete beginner, look it up and read more, you'll encounter it more often and look it up again, and some point you're going to start remembering it. It'll take a while, but you can learn that way.But if the amount of lookups is way too painful for you to keep reading, then you can put words into anki to memorize them so that you have to look up less. Anki doesn't give you the more natural knowledge of native content though, so it's not recommended to use for a lot of words (speak thousands) because then you have to do so many reviews that you waste way too much time for knowledge that is "synthetic", like maybe you'll have problems recognizing that word outside of Anki and other things like that.>>21182400You can ask for advice, surely, but you won't always get an useful answer. Don't take people too seriously.
>>21182417Well if you want to be that precise, I suppose the question itself isn't dumb but the person asking it.
>>21182387This depends on your skill level and how often you encounter that word.
I never write down a new word I encouncter.I just hope it sticks and I know it the next time I see it.Usually takes a couple of times though.
Anyone else can't log into Daiweeb?
I think I know more words that are said in h-scenes than words in normal situations...
Pretty cool that Japanese TV has basically subtitles, helps a lot.I guess a lot of people watch TV on mute?
>>21182278>doesn't use textbooks for language learning>uses textbooks to learn programminghe must be the ultimate brainlet
>>21182465No, japs are just doing it to flex. They think their autistic scribblings look really cool
>>21182466You do actually need extensive reference resources when learning programming. Programming is slow and deliberate, and conscious knowledge is absolutely vital to producing functioning code as a beginner. Without functioning code you can't know whether anything that you've written is remotely correct, and there are things that are objectively right and objectively wrong, unlike natural language. Their structure, syntax, and semantics are also very unusual and unnatural, with edge cases that you're absolutely never going to encounter during natural code reading/writing, that you need to know about in advance from conscious knowledge.
>>21182480None of this is true.t. am software engineer and never looked into a textbook to learn programming
>>21182480t. Basedboy 1337 wanna be. tap yourself on the back even more
>>21182485Sure thing stack overflow copy-paster.Programming textbooks are just glorified reference resources.>>21182490I am most likely the best programmer to have looked at DJT in the past two weeks.
>>21182491>I am most likely the best programmer to have looked at DJT in the past two weeks.Post your github kid>ex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangling_elseHow is this relevant?If this type of shit causes a bug in your program you would be smart enough to simply split it apart. (And tbqh few people are retarded enough to come across this in the first place)
>>21182498>Post your github kidlmao fuck no>How is this relevant?>If this type of shit causes a bug in your program>And tbqh few people are retarded enough to come across this in the first placeCongratulations, you have outed yourself as a novice.
>>21182485its guys like u that are the reason so many things are coded like shit these days omigoto lol
>>21182501>Congratulations, you have outed yourself as a novice.Name 1 (one) thing I said that was wrong, and explain why>>21182502Fuck off lowercase poster
>>21182485this is retarded lmao"I'm a doctor but I never looked at a textbook I just learned by inspecting hundreds of thousands of patients"hahah
>>21182465>I guess a lot of people watch TV on mute?This is what I'm hearing for forever but I have a feeling >>21182478 is right.
>>21182506I can tell you haven't coded a single line of code in your life.Your analogy is retarded becausea) doctors can't simply practice without profound knowledge. If they make a mistake, they risk the health of human beings. If I make a mistake, I might cause a memory leak at worst which my OS will take care of for meb) You don't need profound knowledge for programming, and the knowledge you do need is best acquired through practice.
Heh, I made my own Anki cards, I'm a better programmer than all of you.
>>21182514hey guys I'm a physicist I just learned by observing apples falling from trees and shadows from the sun and shit lmao
>>21182480What a load of horseshit. You replied to an actual software dev by the way that has developed stuff for pretty much every platform. All self taught by just fucking doing it, not theorising about it.Coding is easy. There are complicated problems and applications that are more math than programming, sure, but just learning to program is just about the easiest thing i have done in my life.
How does it feel to know that you will be replaced by pajeets in the next 7 years
>>21182520No, more like>hey guys I'm a car mechanic I learned by fixing a bunch of carsYou think car mechanics read fucking textbooks?
>>21182521so you mean to say you just opened notepad and just started typing shit until it became a program ?
Pack up guys the analogy battle is about to heat up
I just saw a Japanese ad where they showed a gas stove that shuts its flame automatically as soon as there is shaking going on. An earthquake-proof stove. さすが日本!
>>21182529everybody can do thathello word :^)
i like these youngass devs comin in here talkin about how they dev this dev that never read a book in my life but all their work is undoubtedly trash ur best work isnt even comparable to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDc3ZEKl-Wc dont kid urself
>>21182503All programmers who have produced enough code to be worth their weight in body fat have run into bugs caused by ambiguous syntax and poorly specified language constructs. You would know this if you had enough experience programming for your opinion to matter.You need to have a conscious understanding of how the programming language works to understand why things are working incorrectly. You're not going to get by on sheer input and context.Reading other peoples' code is not a good way to develop a good understanding of how a programming language works. Almost all code ever written is broken in some way, incredibly unidiomatic, or hacked together from copy-pasted boilerplate in an old version of Java. It's nothing like human languages.Don't get me wrong. CS students who think they're hot shit but have no experience actually programming are much, much worse than someone who taught themselves to program by writing random letters into a text editor and hitting "compile" until things somehow magically worked.But you'd be lying if you said that you, as an experienced developer, learned to program without ever using something designed to guide beginners into how code in some or another programming language, how it's structured, how it functions, and how common tasks are done. THAT'S what programming textbooks are like. They're nothing like language textbooks.>>21182521I am an actual experienced software dev. The person I replied to is a novice who thinks they're hot shit for googling the basics for several months instead of reading a tutorial for a week.People who have a poor conscious understanding of the language they're programming in write very buggy slow code, because they have no idea what the language is actually doing with the statement they construct. This isn't a human language where things basically mean something along the lines of what they mean. Things are rigid and all the tiny obtuse edge cases actually matter.Is your array getting copied or referenced when you run a for loop over it? Not you! What the fuck is a reference? Not like you'd know!Of course, these particular things would not be explained in "JS For Beginners", but they're defined out there somewhere, in some reference material, in a rigid and objective form. And you have no choice but to read that reference material eventually, or have things explained to you in a deliberate and logical way by someone who has. Reference material is just the final form of beginner's tutorials.And nobody is ever going to learn a language like Rust without wracking their brain against a logical description of what borrow-checking is for several weeks.
>>21182546please type out some more paragraphs you absolute pathetic child lmaooooo
>>21182521Also, I never said it's hard at all. Unlike natural languages, conscious knowledge is actually useful when you're programming, and it turns into an intuition much more quickly. And there's never any real pressure on how fast you are. That doesn't mean that it's reasonable to learn to program by reading other peoples' authentic code (not examples, those count as tutorials) and trying to imitate it. You're just going to have a bad time.
>>21182555>asking people to dox themselves on 4chanas they say on /v/, "not an argument"
>>21182559Yes, because I'm not arguing with you
>>21182546i actually read ur entire postits wasted here but god bless
>>21182562of course you're not arguin with me you're arguin with him
>>21182546Why are you backpedaling?First you said you need to read textbooks to learn programming properly, now you've reduced it to>something designed to guide beginners into how codeWhich one is it?
I'm certain the people saying they learned programming "without textbooks" really just used some guide to learn python or something and think that's actually different from a textbook
What did they mean by this?
>>21182567>First you said you need to read textbooks to learn programming properly, now you've reduced it to>>something designed to guide beginners into how code>>21182480>You do actually need extensive reference resources when learning programmingHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
>>21182568>youtube video = textbooklmao let me just move the goalposts until i'm right
oh me ? *turns on matrix screen saver* yah im a coder i do the coding
>>21182571A beginners guide is not an extensive reference resource.
>>21182572ah so you were actually that retarded. programming textbooks aren't substantially different in content from YouTube videos or any other "guide"
I just imagine NEETs having a LARPing competition.
Take a glimpse at my coding ability i dare you
>>21182577Any "coding" book (to find a way to squeeze HTML and CSS into the same category) as thick as the one that guy held up is going to be extensive. Maybe not up to date. But it's going to answer just about any question he might have about the things that it does contain.
>>21182546No you replied to a guy that wrote his first code when he was 13 years old and has encountered all of those fancy edge cases (like "ambiguous syntax" looool) you mentioned by now. A guy that didn't cram useless information in order to feel smart about their bumfuck nowhere CS degree, but has constantly kept on top of modern development environments by, you know, using them. All the time.For someone so full of themselves you sure can't sell it very well. That's most programmers though, pretending that what they are doing is rocket science in order to discourage anyone that could possibly notice it's all just hot air.
i love zoomers that just go right to youtube thinknig they can learn how to do anything i guess being second or third rate doesnt mean shit if u never know what the genuine article is LOL
>>21182589Okay, please recite a list of the easiest ways to trigger undefined behavior in C89.
For someone so full of themselves you sure can't sell it very well. That's most japanese learners though, pretending that what they are doing is rocket science in order to discourage anyone that could possibly notice it's all just hot air.
I wrote my first code when I was 6, I typed some letters on the keyboard. I didn't know it at the time, but that was coding
Not a single djt anon cares you neckbeards. Stahp
>>21182595hahahaha holy shit dudeI can just picture you so well
>>21182588That's not what I meant though.In your post you said something akin to a beginners guide is enough, and earlier you said you need extensive reference resources. I agree you need at least something to get you started, but I don't need to read SICP to become good at programming.I love how desperate the lowercase posters are for (You)'s
most ftw shit was when i edited config.sys to make doom run a little better on a suck ass 386 lmao
Can we go back to posting "watashi ha gei"?
>>21182605Buddy, you might want to look up the book that guy is holding in that video. That's the specific kind of resource we're looking at. It doesn't matter if your tutorial is mixed together into the same package as the reference, because you need both to get started. The only time you can skip the tutorial is when you're transitioning between two similar languages.
>>21182608It's actually watashi GA gei because watashi is the object of the sentence
>>21181933beautiful cards bro
>>21182618is not the topic? fucking nips and their stupid language
We DPT なう
>>21182618Of course, these particular things would not be explained in "Genki I", but they're defined out there somewhere, in some reference material, in a rigid and objective form. And you have no choice but to read that reference material eventually, or have things explained to you in a deliberate and logical way by someone who has. Reference material is just the final form of beginner's tutorials.
i wish i could post my github because you'd all be soooooo impressed.
all ur professional coding projects are trash ur not fooling anyone
>This isn't a human language where things basically mean something along the lines of what they mean. Things are rigid and all the tiny obtuse edge cases actually matter.
>>21182632>You need to have a conscious understanding of how the Japanese language works to understand why things are working incorrectly. You're not going to get by on sheer input and context.Reading fags BTFO'd
yah not calling it a human language is preetty fuckin lol dude better start writing ur posts in 1s and 0s now to save face
i program visual novel resource parsers to auto import sound lines into anki cards what does that make me
Textbook nerds absolutely btfo lmao how will they ever recover.
>打算めいていてWhat does this mean? It looks like it's a calculation?
>>21182145youre so fuckin annoying dude
>>21182636It's funny because changing it to be about Japanese just shows how absurd it is for a natural language to be treated that way. Meanwhile in the land of code it makes perfect sense because there's no gradient for whether something is right or wrong. If it's wrong it's just completely wrong.
>>21182640hobbyists are a-ok in my eyes regardless of their skill and competence because hobbies are fun and ftw
>>21182647Yeah, it's really funny. You should post this on r/ProgrammerHumor
>>21182650nice self own
>>21182647oh, you're still going?
>>21182650I don't have a reddit account.
>>21182647theres varying degrees of right tho which depending on who u ask are still wrong
This thread needs a 良妻賢母
How many kanji can fit in a liter?
>>21182640share Ur code
>>21182400fuck those guys man.they all have their heads up their asses. the truth is the question of how to go about vocab study is one of the most debated topics in japanese and perhaps language learning in general. the process of making and studying anki cards certainly works to move at least general definitions of words into your long term memory, which can then increase your ability to read comfortably and understand more. the problem occurs when making and studying those cards starts taking more time than you spend just consuming native material. thats why many here recommend only 5 to 10 minutes of anki a day, using the rest of your time for input. You can learn around 300 new words a month with 5 to 10 minutes a day.
its not really much of a debate u either watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and get good or u dont its like coding its either it is or it isnt its either a 1 or a 0 its either ur straight or ur ゲイ
>>21182690The first season of naruto is enough right
I was gonna back you up jamal but you crossed the line the last time you messed me with so nopass
when did i mess with u
I've been watching anime since highschool.
にゃ . YOu dont even remember. Garbage human
>he started watching anime highschoolhope you're a boomer or else you're not gonna make it
>>21182714wait seriously that ? the にゃ thing in this thread ? holy shit that was some of my worst work tooeither way if u couldnt tell right away what stupid shit i was doing u deserve it straight up gomennasorry not sorry
I graduated from highschool in 2010 and started watching anime in 2008.
>>21182719U will regret this. I promise
Why did nobody tell me that や否や can be 略す into just や?
Why did you post the same shit again?
You need a reference. It doesn't matter what it is. It can be a textbook. It can be google. It can be some random Indian teenager's blog.It doesn't matter.It's not like Japanese where entire categories of resources are pointless or bad. It's not a mistake for someone to decide to read a textbook.If you don't read what things actually do then you don't actually understand what your code is doing. You have to learn what things actually do. You can do it whenever you want, but you can do it whenever you want, even at the very beginning.You can sit down and read the a literary adaptation of Common Lisp or Scheme before you write a single character of code and you'll be just fine. It won't do you any harm and you'll learn a lot of useful lessons.This is not true of Japanese, where intuition is the only thing that matters.Consider this a lesson on how programmers learn to program being a bad example when it comes to learning something different like Japanese.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHk42kDwesM
Bruh you really got into the wrong thread
>>21182733this is an ai post right?
Can someone explain to a retard like myself the difference between Wo を and Ga が in grammar?
>>21182740There isn't one. Have fun!
>>21182737SICP posting is a longstanding tradition here on /jp/.
>>21182740http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/difference-between-wa-and-ga/congrats takes less than a second to google
Did you just congratulate yourself?
>>21182733Hmm yes very interesting indeed *takes notes* thanks this will improve my nihongo quite a bit
>>21182746Isn't that between は and が?He was asking for を and が
You cannot play on an even level ground as jamal he has secret 4chan pass posts without captcha
>>21182751If your note says "Japanese textbooks might suck" then congrats you learned an important lesson today.
>>21182756No no it says watashi wa gei but i will keep your suggestion in mind
>>21182733>local man refuses to accept his textbooks are useless
>>21182761Never touched a programming textbook in my life.
>>21182750wheres the thumbs up button would press it on this post lol
15 days too late for that
This thread would be useful if we would only speak in Japanese.始めます。
>>21182741>there isn’t a differenceI like it! Thanks anon
>>21182774>Though が is called the subject marker and を is called the direct object marker, there are times when they are indeed interchangeable.This might provide a little more help imabi.net/gavswo.htm
>>21182780>imabi.net/gavswo.htmWhere's the l after the htm? This is nothing like my programming manga
>>21182780Oh okay. Thanks anon. I appreciate the link
>>21182782.htm is from the good old days when file name extensions were limited to a length 3 and you couldn't use any fancy characters in file names either.
imagine being so young that .htm looks strange to u lol
gotta say 'NG' is shaping up to by my least favorite word in japanese
21182793Imagine being so young that u don't know how to write uppercase letters lol
>>21182769what good would that do
>>21182809immersion in shitty gayjin japanese lol
If we would help each other when someone says something wrong instead of bullying or shitposting, it wouldn't be shitty gayjin japanese
why do you want corrections and input from fellow shitty gayjins
>>21182811shitty immersion is still better than no immersion.
OK lets switch topic what happened to carubin?
there must be someone who is less shitty than others
>>21182827no it isn't
Is the Ane Naru Mono Doujinshi better than the Manga?
"A vocab list helps towards fluency" is like saying unlocking all the fighting game's characters from the start using micro transactions has made you better at the game
Just because you understand all the concepts involved, doesn't mean you're suddenly a top fighting game player.A guide on blockstrings is not the same as irreplaceable firsthand experience in character matchups.Watching evo is not practise.
>>21182839>知識That's the only part I didn't undertand.
I hope you don't think I'm Gary Ben. Nothing wrong the the dude but I don't share his opinions.
gary is right about everything
>>21182848They meant 意識. Don't ask me how I know.
>>21182848same, but I also didn't understand why there was a single Hiragana character in an otherwise complete Katakana word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=r5LgoRcYUxkhow accurate is this?
subsequent seashell --> assets, resources, capital
>>21182860Because there's not a different character for べ in katakana.
>>21182866This video is actually great. Holy shit.
I thought Mattposting was the lowest this thread could go, but then it turned into DPT
>>21182867in that song im mentally replacing スシ with ass and it has become rather enjoyable
>>21182876I'm always just a single chat message away from coming back to show DJT just how bad things can truly become. A pleasure to be of service.
>>21182876theres not much to say about matt hes just a neckbeard who pretends to be better at japanese than he really isno different from any of us really lets be honest
I can't find this Kanji. What does it mean?It looks really similar to this one 庠, but that's not it.
>>21182890daily https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27 thread
>>21182234>like the old DoJG deck formatting.?
Every time I see the word "kayui", I remember this https://vndb.org/v15167
>>21182818Depends on who's in here, some people help. You can usually figure anything out online though and you probably should be trying to say something you're unsure of yet.>>21182825Because japanese people won't correct you.
>>21182897>>21182899thanks.Kinda weird that I couldn't find it through radicals on jisho.
>>21182485How did you do it then?
>>21182914>my back is ugly
>>21182906that looks like a hentai game
>>21182908jisho's radical search is badhttps://jisho.org/search/%E7%97%92%20%23kanji>Parts: 并 王 疔 羊
looks good to me
>>21182921that's why you don't use google translate
>>21182928oh hey it works anyway even though the data is broken, how funny
>>21182928can sheep feel itchy
>jisho's radical search is badno it's just you
>>21182931I didn't need to. Just wanted to see the romaji with mecab.
>>21182928Looks I was just blind then.
>>21182939the radical is sickness the sheep part is phonetic
kinda refreshing to see some bads just bein bad in this thread was starting to think every1 just knew japanese lol
>tfw 痒い was the first word of the doujinshi I just started to readI'll never make it guys.
>>21182947what does that mean
>バーン>バーカIt's funny how they always enunciate the fuck out of バ
>>21182949Read this https://vndb.org/v15167 and in one scene, the girl will say that word a lot. That will stick with you for your whole life.
>>21182948Its a huge spectrum friendo
Go on nyaa and download atok 2017 . Best input methord you can enter everything handwriting kanji whatever you need. Thank me later
>>21182952my explanation was satisfactory疒 radical 104 sickness 羊 onyomi よう痒 onyomi よう radical 疒
>>21182956why she so itchy ?
wool itches like fucking hell guys.
>>21182966That's the fun part anon. You must see it yourself.
Pretty bad thread imo but how do we get it back on track?
*points to dick*
>>21182964u lost medo hitsusheepyou feel itchy or nah
>>21182982Keisei moji (形声文字)Keisei (Mandarin: xíngshēng) characters are phono-semantic or radical-phonetic compounds, sometimes called "semantic-phonetic", "semasio-phonetic", or "phonetic-ideographic" characters, are by far the largest category, making up about 90% of the characters in the standard lists; however, some of the most frequently used kanji belong to one of the three groups mentioned above, so keisei moji will usually make up less than 90% of the characters in a text. Typically they are made up of two components, one of which (most commonly, but by no means always, the left or top element) suggests the general category of the meaning or semantic context, and the other (most commonly the right or bottom element) approximates the pronunciation. The pronunciation relates to the original Chinese, and may now only be distantly detectable in the modern Japanese on'yomi of the kanji; it generally has no relation at all to kun'yomi. The same is true of the semantic context, which may have changed over the centuries or in the transition from Chinese to Japanese. As a result, it is a common error in folk etymology to fail to recognize a phono-semantic compound, typically instead inventing a compound-indicative explanation.a phonetic component, also called "rebus", Japanese 音符 (onpu), that is, a character with approximately the correct pronunciation.a semantic component, also called a determinative, one of a limited number of determinative characters which supplied an element of meaning (in most cases this is also the radical under which a character is listed in a dictionary).As in ancient Egyptian writing, such compounds eliminated the ambiguity caused by phonetic loans (above).This process can be repeated, with a phono-semantic compound character itself being used as a phonetic in a further compound, which can result in quite complex characters, such as 劇 (豦 = 虍 + 豕, 劇 = 刂 + 豦).Often, the radical is to the left, but there are many possible combinations, see Shape and position of radicals.
didnt fuckin read lol
I'm not reading that wall of text
>>21182989>mandarinbro im learning japanese already no ty
should've learned english before you embarked on japanese, noobs.
strongly disagree considering how bad english speakers fail at japanese
brush up on your onpu
I should learn japanese in spanish instead.
>not learning japanese in russianThey're one of the closest countries to japan but still western. Russian audio + japanese subs, it's the only way.
>>21183003lmao europoors are by far the biggest fails, you learned english without even trying so you think you can do the same thing with Japanese when you don't even know how you learned english in the first place.
>>21183069huh? ameripoops do the same
>>21183069huhI'm not europoor but that's how I learned english
>>21183069>you learned english without even tryingTrue>you think you can do the same thing with JapaneseI already did
>>21183069All the people who get good at more languages don't really know exactly how they do it either except that you don't do it through studying textbooks and grammar rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cMVTAuVafAimagine having a cute japanese gf to make you osushi every day
>>21183092id walk in there and just flip the table then start fuckin her on top of the mess
>>21183092imagine being a racetraitor
oh and id sing the song in rhythm to my pelvis hitting hers
b-but jamal said i wouldn't have to learn grammar
u learn grammar by enjoying stuff dudei just say u dont have to study grammar until ur already proficientbig difference
>>21183092cutewhy can't girl here be like that?
guys might enjoy this if you like NG
I though dekinai was just a meme. I don't think I'm getting any better. If I learn one thing I forget something else. I use to take ginkgo biloba everyday while studying before maybe that's why I reached the level and just plateaued
>>21183204*thoughtwhile starting to dekinai in English too....
>>21183204It's hard. You won't see your progress. You'll keep forgetting things. But you keep improving, gradually, over time, the more time you spend, as long as you don't spend all your time doing things that are truly useless like collecting studying materials or arguing on Reddit. Eventually you start actually getting good. And then you realize how valuable the practice you've put in really is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Why do japanese write better erotica than the west?
Because they are more hentai than the west.
>>21183239The language is more suited for describing sounds, abstract sensations, and random changes in state without sounding weird or specifying every little detail.
i dont read any english erotica so it would be inappropriate for me to comment but lol @ the idea of doing anything erotic better than the west
No they aren't. Murika has (them)
gucho guchoshiko shikochupo chupopan pan
koki kokiimouto ashi saikou
>>21183318thats not ftw
>射精learned a new word
learned that word even before I started studying seriously
Starting to read エロ was a pretty good decision for me.Way more motivation to continue.
>>21183294i dont want to go to japan anymore...
>一卵性双生児learned a new word
>触手の髪Guess what I'm reading.
>>21183411uhh if gis is to be trusted its hentai shit
>>21183336i guessed what this word meantthanks RTK, I think i'm going to make it bros
>>21183488i guessed that ur a fuckin nerd thanks to RTK too
why are the japanese so rude to white pplhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpXQKdKJwU#t=392
>>21183547what about this is rude?
white ppl dont act like that and they just make up whatever they wanna put there that makes them sound how they want them tobravo japan real mature haha metal fans are just a bunch of circus freaks
based japan, fuck metal
>>21183579i mean the left side of the image is deffo trash but come on now this shit is practically beethoven tierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3QJtY214CM
btw both ppl in that pic have no idea how to even dress themselves i wouldnt take their opinion on anything seriously
>>21183595not "icy" enough or no "swag" eh jamal?
>>21183615fuck swag just try not looking like a clown
wtf can someone please explain how this makes sense? why would this be 矛盾? it doesn't make any sense at all.
>>21183640because women belong in the kitchen
>>21183648uh no. that doesn't sound right. only dekirus (quizmaster approved) answer please
>>21183640>>21183652shes commenting on her manner of speaking in contrast to what would be expected
>>21183652>i'm a pretty little girl so I don't need to cook>that's a contradiction (=women should cook even if they are pretty)
>>21183665but women shouldn't have to cook lol.. that's just simply 常識 and wouldn't have such a misogynistic thing in a game. you're obviously wrong and just using your 4chan incel brain here
>>21183652quizmaster herei recognized all the kanji words in 0.5 seconds though i have no idea what the sentence means lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4DxPeLNVuwsecond best song ever
>>21183673i mean its a game from japan dude come on now
jibun mo futon ga daisukiatatatakutte kimochii
>>21183673>wouldn't have such a misogynistic thing in a gamewelcome to glorious nippon
quizmaster herei once sucked a cock and liked so much I do it all of the time now, that is all
quizmaster hereim actually doing some really good things like enjoying anime but im also a huge obnoxious faget who doesnt know japanese yet but i prolly will get decent someday
>恨みはらさでおくべきかI'M TEARING MY HAIR LADSWHAT DOES IT MEAN
this is all of U lmao weeb ass niggas
>>21183731dont think thats gonna help him im pretty sure hiragana is like airman to these new age kids lol
>>21183727beats me man
>>21183733nice self own
What kanji is this?
I got a bad ending in angel beats. There were words I didn't know but I got what they were saying. Such a sad ending...
>>21183791you some kind of dancing monkey and this is from your teacher? very nice, happy birthday. too bad they think you can't read kanji but I guess they were right to avoid it after all!
>>21183805i told u to just go play baseball btw theres alot of bad ends angel beats the game is like the dark souls of visual games
>>21183819But I wanted to see what happens if you refuse to join SSS. And joined the baseball club anyway.
is there a fully japanese sadpanda? or a fully japanese torrent site like nyaa?
amerikkkan weebs stay taking Ls lmaoそんな人もいるね
>>21183802That was my first thought but the word 出伝 doesn't not exist>>21183803Oh now it makes sense and I feel idiot cuz it was that easy. I just had to tilt my face 45 degrees>>21183818No it wasn't for me. I'm not 曜
>>21183838>tfw anon actually tries the game you recd himDamn this is a new feel
Will I die if I go for two days without reviewing my anki deck?
>>21183857I'm feeling tricked because it's definitely gonna be some weird high school drama shit and not real shonen but it's funny so I forgive you
>>21183873I took a month of and a return to form is totally possible and I think it's healthy. You just chip away at them for a few weeks without adding new words and you actually remember them even better. There will be a lot you half forget and you'll get like 30% retention for a while but the return is inevitable and you'll be even better especially if you used the down time for immersion.
>>21183873It happens if you're unmotivated and undedicated, and it's a sigh that you're not going to make it. But practically, if you set aside enough time on the 3rd and 4th days (if necessary) to catch up, the damage is not too bad.
>>21183873thanks for reminding me I almost spent all day reading and forgot to do it
>>21183896I read all day yesterday and it never feels nearly as productive as grinding vocabs and immersing in anime. I'm finally getting to the point reading can be fun though and I think once I'm at 90% comprehension I'l start figuring out words more from context.
someone get me a link to dengeki stryker, i can only find it in english in nyaa and AB. does the manga gamer version come with japanese option?
How come graded reader 3 and 4 aren't available on amazon? Anybody know where to get them? I did the first two and they helped.
>>21183911I just used some random public torrent I found on Google
>>21183910I can enjoy reading pretty anything and just pick up words from context except the really chuuni shit so I'm just avoiding it until I'm at 20k vocab from reading stuff that's average difficulty that has new words every 5k characters instead of every line like Muramasa
>>21183945When I dipped my toes into the shallows of Muramasa I was running into words I knew I didn't know pretty much constantly but I still knew what they meant and how to read them. I guess this is the power of reading, huh.
>>21183945Nice, yea I'm at 6k and not even close to trying any of the hard shit. 10k is where I think I'll start prioritizing reading more. I'm hoping around then I'll at least be familiar with all of the basic kanji.
btw hope ya'll are playing CHOU dengeki stryker which has a bunch of extra shit and upgraded visualstho im not seeing a non-english version anywhere oddly enough
>>21183920>graded readeroh no no no no
>>21183971>10k is where I think I'll start prioritizing reading morewhat do you mean by this
>>21183981I'm reading 1 hour a day if I don't count subs or comments etc. and when I get to around 10k I'll make it about 5 hours a day because I'll be better at reading around then. I'll also be better at kanji so I won't need to review as much. Like I'll know the readings instinctively and whatnot.
>>21183966Chuunige love to use neologisms that don't really exist but are super obvious to understand and know the reading of. like 轟哮 or something
>>21183972im playing that dw. im actually gonna make a torrent and upload it to AB and Nyaa if anyone wants it
>>21183994man what are you doing how much time does your anki take lolknowing a lot of words is a small part of reading
>>21184009i'll dl and help seed it just post itt when it's up
>>21184020Few hours. 1 hour for rtk, 2 hours for vocab. Most of my time goes to watching/listening to content. I feel like the immersion in content is the best way to start. I'm at 6k vocab and can hand write 1k kanji already. Only 8 months so far so I'm doing good.
>>21183999Muramasa is not a chuunige, it's true art.
Posted here a week or so ago about learning 1000 kanji over summer break (4 months) but I can't find the post anymor