Apparently, this is all a metaphor for Yasu fighting herself with mutilated penis.Wait, do we trim roses with our penis again?
>>20995681Its some delusional anon ignore them move along.
>>20995681"Deflowering" is an expression for taking a woman's virginity.
>>20995681I don't see how you can interpret this scene any other way once you know the truth. Episode 2 in general is just one big Yasu self-hate wankfest.
>>20995784>Episode 2 in general is just one big Yasu self-hate wankfest.Indeed it is.
>>20995773>>20995885>Yasu is bullshit, Ryukishi obviously changed his mind on the answers!Why were people so retarded in 2011
>>20995773>>20995885Someone post the dialogue of Kanon dilating.
>>20995885The most disturbing part is Kanon fingering his "wound" in front of Kumasawa and Nanjo.
>>20996140>>20996138I see. Umineko is a tale about a transexual maid who went around Rokkenjima's dilation stations, trying to cut roses with hir mangled penis to the point where all the humans on the island, in a gesture of goodwill and common decency, decided to blow up the island and their tainted selves with a giant anti-degeneracy bomb.Yes, this truly is a tale of love.
>>20996157U would go similarly insane if you were in his place. People really take for granted healthy genitals and their sex drive.
>>20996157Where do the loli anime battles come in?
The moon merely reflects the sun's light...But it is still light, nevertheless
Oh shit guys.
>>20997080Why did no one notice that that weird servant kid looked half European?
>>20995885When I see that I really want to read umineko again one day. There is so much I missed in every chapter.
>>20997118technically 1/8 european
Just finished Higurashi chapter 6 last week and it was amazing. Rena a best.
>>20997925I'm french and I've read it, what's your question?
>>20997670ho shit no it's 1/4
>>20997939You're a blessing. You read the french translation right ? By Pierre Bancov.I want to know if it's a good translation, I'm thinking about buying it.
I'm training a neural network to generate text based on the scripts of Umineko episodes 1-6. Sample output>"Aww, it's useless.">"I have enough of being a witch, but I haven't had enough of being a witch either. So, I want to be a witch right now. But if I were there, I'm sure I'd be able to escape if I don't. ...Will you surrender first, or will I have you staying behind me? ...What happens to those who talk to me? And what do you think, when I'm not around, it'd be that simple and boring? And yet...">"...Not bad. ...If we're even close to surrender, that just automatically gets on the line between game and game board.">"Hahaha... That's good. Otherwise, I'd be able to defeat this one challenge if I kept on playing in the game. ...But when I get bored, I guess you have always been on the edge of losing, and it's getting pretty difficult, right? Wahhahahahaha, *giggle*!">Beatrice laughed, almost as though she was making fun of me...>"...Hahahahaha. That look suits you. You've got all served me, haven't it. ...Just for the first time, I haven't really been bored of you six years. ...*giggle*.">"Hahaha~. That's just like you, princess. ...*giggle*.">As Beatrice laughed, she looked down on the balcony...>...The witch, Beatrice.>"...You're there. ...I've just been looking around the portrait on the stage. ...Ah, that's true. Aaah, wait a while!">"...Beatrice. ...You're in the portrait of the witch, Beatrice. ...Do you really have any idea?">"Yeah. ...Beatrice exists. She is practically like a working manager to Battler-sama and Onii-sama.">"...What does she really like?">"...I don't even have a clue what Beato's like about.">"Beatrice has a really bad portrait. ...I have always heard of her from Battler-kun and Battler-sama.">"Hmmm...">Beatrice's portrait was a portrait that's inside the mansion.
>>20997977>"Yeah. ...Beatrice exists. She is practically like a working manager to Battler-sama and Onii-sama.">"Beatrice has a really bad portrait. ...I have always heard of her from Battler-kun and Battler-sama."
>>20997956Yeah Bancov's a god. the translation is a good 9,5/10, way, way better than 90% of japanese games translated in french. Only grip with it is that he changed Rika's "Nipah" with "Miaou" for some reason but otherwise everything's pretty much perfect, to the point that every game/vn french translation looks stale in comparison.He's a very professional translator and it shows.
>>20997992Okay thanks for sharing your experience. I'm used to play to VNs in english so I'm a little unsure about reading it in french. But if we have good translations sometimes, it would a waste not to read them.Bankov looks like a great guy, I saw some interviews of him, he did an incredible work alone on Higurashi.A last question about it j'ai vu un screen ou deux où il utilisait le vouvoiement, pic related, c'est normal selon le contexte ou c'est son interprétation ? je trouve ça bizarre.
>>20998026C'est le contexte, dans l'original Satoko parle très souvent un japonais formel et soutenu forcé. A part elle, les personnages se tutoient et se vouvoient de manière naturelle et normale.
>>20997673hottest umi fanart desu
>>20998064Okay. Thanks a lot. I'll buy it.
>>20998104Nice, I'm sure you won't regret it.
>>20998130Did you give a shot to the french translation of Kanon by chance ?I will probably read it soon. I don't expect a professional work obviously.
>>20998341Not yet, the only other VNs I've read in french for now are Narcissu and Saya no Uta which had fairly good translations, Mahoyo which had an okay one and Danganronpa V3 which had a pretty shit one.
>>20997977>>20999516>The more violently she kicked and smashed her face, the more violently she threw up.>"Jessica, ...Jessica-sama, ...Please forgive your foolishness!!">"M, ...my apologies, ...I am..., ...the culprit...">"Jessica, ...knew he has, ...soaked...the culprit...!!!">"...I'm the culprit..., ...the culprit, ...the witch...">"You idiot, ...please give up... I'll get in your way...!!">...>"I'll kill you..., ...I'll kill you..., ...and you'll probably kill me...! I'll kill you...! I'm not the culprit...! I will kill you..., ...Jessica, I'll kill you..., I'll kill you...! I'll hate you...!!">"...I...want to kill..., ...Jessica, ...why, ...why did I kill you...?! Wh, who, ...what the hell...! What's wrong, ...that bitch...!!">"...Jessica-sama...! ...I want to believe in you... again...! ...Even if I kill you, ...I still can kill you...!">...I can only look at Jessica's expression.>...And despite, ...Jessica's still with me.>And even so, ...I want to believe...!
>>20997956to one up on the previous anon's response, I can also say that the french higurashi translation is one of the best french translation of any japanese works, all the dialogues feel incredibely naturalI can't praise the french translation enough, all the work and love for the original story transpires so well into the text
>>20999693why do you eat snails?
Ange is my fiancee.
>>20999812It's not that bad especially once you factor in that they're covered in a ton of garlic and butter, it doesn't have any particularly strong taste and you get used to the texture
>>20999820I want to bang your fiancé
>>20999604I see, that neural net has nice taste
Ahh, nothing like a nice cup of black tea
Oh wait, duh.Even if we go by the red, Beato simply being Yasu makes little to no sense. She knew Battler was not Ushiromiya Asumu's son.
>>21000406There's no way you actually believe that servants on a western mansion of all places can't know about the family's secrets.
I'm tyrying to read the manga but the aerly part is kind of hard to get through since I've alreayd read the VN
>>21000780Just skip ahead then
>>21001919now these are some quality shitposts
>>21001919Whomever made that should unironically off themselves.
>>21001919The Umineko fandom has way too many normalfag tumblr retards. You don't see this shit with Higurashibros
>>21002199You're right. The Higurashi fandom instead has way too many edgy teenagers that only watched the anime for the insanity and violence.
>>21002245no such thing
>>21002241You aren't wrong. But both of those type should be lined up against the wall and shot, because they're secondaries and haven't read the source material.
>>21002291>beato>no such thingRude.
>>20997977Do you have the plaintext for all of the episodes? Could you share it?
I keep hearing people in these threads talk alternatingly about how 07th expansion is pretty niche and about how there's way too many normalfags and not only are these statements mutually exclusive, they're both wrong.
>>21002579You created a logic error anon, prepare for an eternity of torment
>>21002604I'm OK with that as long as "an eternity of torment" refers to sexual torment by Erika, but I also don't see how I have created a logic error
>>21002606mutualy exclusive statements can't be both wrong thus you deserve your eternal pegging session
>>21002622Yes they can be. Imagine I have a blue object and I make the following statements about it:>This object is green>This object is redClearly these statements are mutually exclusive (they can't both be true) and also both false.
>>21002622how come he gets such a good end
>>21002622>>21002626The phrase you're looking for (where they can't both be false) is "collectively exhaustive", by the way. Taken from the wikipedia article for "Mutual exclusivity":>In logic and probability theory, two events (or propositions) are mutually exclusive or disjoint if they cannot both occur at the same time(be true). A clear example is the set of outcomes of a single coin toss, which can result in either heads or tails, but not both.>In the coin-tossing example, both outcomes are, in theory, collectively exhaustive, which means that at least one of the outcomes must happen, so these two possibilities together exhaust all the possibilities. However, not all mutually exclusive events are collectively exhaustive. For example, the outcomes 1 and 4 of a single roll of a six-sided die are mutually exclusive (both cannot happen at the same time) but not collectively exhaustive (there are other possible outcomes; 2,3,5,6).
But what if the witch had a gun?
>>21002989I want 3d beato to step on me
>>20999693Okay thanks to you too, I'm relieved now.I'm surprised to see we're that many frogs on /07th/.
>>21003173the french higu translation is what got me into vns in generalit used to have kind of a cult following on JVC
>>21002630In italian mutual exclusive (mutualmente esclusivi) and indipendent are logically one the opposite of the other. english is fucked up
>>21004069I asked a friend who speaks Italian about this and he told me that not only are you wrong, "mutualmente" isn't even a word (it's "mutuamente"). You're lying to me anon, to the pit of eternal dispair and intellectual rape you go!
>>21004822oh god you're right, i've always said it wrong. the substance doesn't change tho, the things anon said can't be wrong at the same time.I'm even a fucking mathematician, fuck I'm retarded
Disgaea's healer looks like Beatrice.Beato an healslut.
>>21004897ooo anima efimera
>>21004922b-but the substance!!
Why is there literally zero (0) Zel/Hotaru hentai out there?
The humiliation of a cute! Of an actual cute!
>>21005191we need more RGD yaoi the whole VN is pretty much homo sexual tension
Satoko is a Satoko!What a loser!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm-t11FZ-kw
>>21005882based and rikapilled
Rereading and there's one thing I don't remember. The painting was ordered the year Kinzo died, but do we know for sure if it was ordered before his death? Could Yasu have ordered the painting afterwards to spread the legend of Beatrice even more?
Ow the edge.
>>21006223What is it
>>21006189Taken from the wiki:>In his final years, he made the epitaph, in the hopes that Sayo would reveal themselves to him as at this point he had suspicions Sayo was his lost child due to the scar on her foot. After it was solved by Sayo (dressed in her mother's clothing), Kinzo realized her to be his child he was searching for and apologized to Beatrice and told Sayo that her birth name is 'Lion'. He died afterwards, and his death would be covered by Natsuhi, Krauss, Kumasawa, Genji, Shannon, Kanon and Doctor Nanjo afterwards in 1985 and 1986, to create the illusion that he was still alive.According to the wiki, Kinzo had to have been the one to order the painting, because otherwise there would be no epitaph for Sayo to solve.One question that I have though has to do with the painting and the epitaph. I seem to remember that the painting was put up first and then later on the epitaph was added. Or perhaps the painting was replaced with another one or something to that effect. Does anyone else recall something like this happening or am I just misremembering things?
>>21006414also if the manga is canon sayo got her blonde hair after the beatrice portrait, and it's probably a meta only thing, so why does beatrice have this right hair on the portrait
>>21007958I prefer pre-Hanyuu
At least the mentally deficient ghost is good for something
stupid sexy ghost
>>21008368How much must one offer to draw a fortune from her bountiful blessings?
>>210085741円 for everything
Do not fear I am finally here to hornypost about Lion.
>>21008853Bern bless you anon
>>21008853Well? Go on...
Lion and Will were mistakes.I understand the point of Lion's character but I couldn't give a fuck about her/him/it, neither for Will.
>>21009339Lion is fine, albeit a tad forgettable in the grand scheme of things. Will was pretty much a fill-in character. If you wanted an Episode without Battler, you could've always picked a new POV character from the preexisting ones. Like Dlanor for example. The same position as Will and with similar qualifications, while already having a pre-established connection with the fans. Plus it could fill in the gaps between her suddenly changing sides between Episodes 6 and 8.
>>21009361I hate pinching. I have PTSD from it so when I read chapter 7 I wanted to break his/her/it arm every time.
>>21009361>The same position as WillShe's not male. That's a pretty important qualification for filling Battler's role for Clair/Beatrice.
>>21009432This. The point is Will is a perfect meta Battler to Lion as the perfect meta Yasu.
My biggest objection to Will is that his constant "think of the motive" feels like a stumbling point of the series. All the tricks, deceptions, and accidents are presented skilfully, but the (important) motives don't feel like things I could figure out from the question episodes.It's right at the end of the story, and suddenly a character shows up and points a really big finger at the weakest part of it, so it's easy to transfer some dislike to that character. I guess it was meant to prepare me for the "it's not a mystery, it's a tragedy, and it happened this way because the cast enjoy mysteries" argument. Or maybe I still don't understand.
When did Ange start being associated with humiliation and loss of dignity?
>anon..>give me your foreskin
>>21009534About 2 years back when Humiliation anon started spamming it daily.
>>21009649I don't have one.
>>21009691repeat that in red
>>21009691I'll have to confirm that with my own eyes.
>>21009677Imagine being here for 2 years.it's my life goal
>>21009755You see a lot of odd things come and go.
>>21009677To be fair, the fact that Ange is a human teenager is pretty fascinating. She has so much pride and attitude, and yet.. she's a lewd ass mammal creature!
>>21009807Is this an edit or was there an actual Manga piece about this
where can i torrent umineko?
>>21010035steal a copy from ryukishi's basement
>>21009988It's an edit of a page from Forgery of the purple logic.>>21010035https://nyaa.si/view/911641
Did you buy Umineko ?I didn't butI'll do it when I'll be richer.
>>21010138I didn't buy it then bought it
>>21010138I contemplated buying the PS3 version while I was in Japan but I decided not to since I don't speak Japanese anyways. In hindsight I kind of wish I did, but by then I hadn't finished it yet so I didn't love it as much as I do now. I did buy the steam version.
>>21010138When I first played it I pirated it, but now I've sunk over $2000 in merch.
>>21010138I bought it AND made the money back with umineko emotes
>>21010175witch of shekels
>Saku's op mentions hell, and that we will paint shit black with illusion and liesMASAKAARE WE GONNA INTRODUCE...THE "BLACK" TEXT?!
>>21010193The black text is shit Ryukishi pulls out of his ass at the last minute. It was hinted at in the original but you couldn't read it because it was black text against a black background.
>>21010087>"I highly suggest avoiding this download. I only checked the Questions Arc but it comes with 2 English patches for no apparent reason, and the better of the two is still shit, because it has a locked resolution of 640x480. Search the Steam/MangaGamer release instead."What the actual fuck did he mean by this? Get a load of this faggot.
>>21010138I pirated every single thing Ryuukishi ever made, but I genuinely admire him as a writer and plan to buy it all for real when I finally get a job.
After finishing Iwaihime I am now convinced that Ryukishi is an actual christian writer.
Literally the only flaw of Umineko and Higurashi is that the credits scroll way too fast. It's not that bad in Umineko, but the Higurashi EP8 credits are literally impossible to read completely unless you take a screenshot.
Should I master fucking French in six months so I can read the French translation of Higurashi? Or should I spend 2-3 years grinding Japanese so I never have to worry about translations again?I already read Higurashi a couple of times, but both of Mangagamer's translations have been sloppy and feel more like throwaway translations, far from perfect. It feels bad to only be able to read it in English, since the translation is so mediocre.The little I've managed to read of the French translation is pretty damn good. The localized wordplay is clever as fuck so far. "Le SANGlot des cigales" is a pretty good way to give the title a double meaning. I think "Minagoroshi" was localized as "the final resolution" or something like that, which is pretty clever too. It sounds like it's referring to the fact that it's an answer arc but it's actually referring to the plan to kill all the villagers if something goes wrong with Rika.
>>21010300Based frogs didn't censor Satoko.
>>21010300>"Minagoroshi" was localized as "the final resolution"fugg, I should have taken french in school instead of learning a literal dead language.
BLUE STAINED MYSTERY RED STAINED FANTASYGREEN STAINED ????BLACK STAINED ????
>>21010317>learning>implying you still remember a language you don't use
Why did Lambda adopt Satoko's personality so she could get closer to Bern? That's creepy as hell.
>>21010345Imagine their cosplay sex.
>>21010373Do you think Bern takes the Chiester sisters and has them dress up as Mion and Shion?
>>21010332I can painstakingly translate latin sentences if I have a dictionary, but you're right of course. You can't actually learn a dead language in the way you do one you can integrate into your daily life.
>>21010323truth and love seem like the obvious options
>>21010345Cheap ass theory.
>>20997823>>21002440>>21007907The way Rena's clothing clings to her makes me feel things
Ryuukishi confirmed that his characters are all actors and that the Higurashi All Cast Review Sessions are the highest level of meta. But which characters are supposed to be played by the same actor? So far, the only semi-confirmed ones are:Furude Rika - BernkastelTanashi Miyoko (as a child) - LambdadeltaUshiromiya Battler - Philip ButlerOkonogi Tetsuro (Higurashi )- Okonogi Tetsuro (Umineko) - Maurice MononobeTomitake Jirou - James TomitakeSakutaro - Sakunoshin (some people suspect that the same actor played Houjou Satoshi, but maybe they just look similar).All the ages match up. Miyoko and Rika are 10-11, while Lambda and Bern appear to be around 13 or 14. Butler is played by the same actor as Battler after 5 years or so.I suspect that Tomita (that one kid from Higurashi who got bribed by K1 in every chapter) eventually got his big role as Nonomiya Takeshi in Higanbana. He did a pretty good job, he's one of my favorite characters in the novel."Nomura" from Higurashi and Hachijo Ikuko are OBVIOUSLY the same actress. You can see her face in the manga and the anime, and she's identical to Ikuko. She plays a big role in both stories but her characters are always manipulating shit behind the scenes.Meryl and Stella in RGD are obviously an intentional reference to Lambda and Bern. Same with Yukari and "Reiko" in Higanbana. But they are obviously different actresses with completely different faces, and they aren't even supposed to be incarnations of those witches in-universe or anything of the sort. It's just a reference, it doesn't mean anything.It's possible that Renoir the youkai also played the weird EP7 Manga version of Yasu.And no, Mion and Shion are not the same person. They are legit twins IRL and you can even see them interact in the All Cast Review Sessions.
>>21011316That nurse is so fucking hot and she doesn't even get a name. Her character raises a lot of questions too, because one of the chapters shows her drunk as fuck and hanging out with all the school youkai. She seems to be able to sense the supernatural.
>>21011316There is this one bitch in WTC5 that appears to be Erika. Not just the hairstyle, they have literally the same face. And one of the battle nuns is clearly Cornelia, which is fantastic because she's hella cute and I always thought her design was wasted in such an irrelevant character.
>>21011316Your post is bad mister I'm sorry. >All the ages match up. Miyoko and Rika are 10-11, while Lambda and Bern appear to be around 13 or 14. This is the level of arguing about bust sizes all over again.>And no, Mion and Shion are not the same person.Since when they were supposed to be considered the same person ever?I am perfectly aware how my post looks rude but I don't know. These are just your headcanons right? If so it needs so much more brewing.
Why are most WTC main characters virgins?Literally all the club members in Higurashi are virgins. Even Shion is a virgin, despite being nearly 17 and a fucking slut.Literally all the cousins in Umineko are virgins, including George (the 23 year old ex-incel who is planning to MARRY a woman) and Battler, who is supposed to be a jock/chad. Even adult Ange is a virgin somehow.RGD, on the other hand, is full of literal prostitutes who fuck and sell their asses for a living. Even the most innocent-looking girls turn out to have a past of sex slavery, complete with those crazy my-whole-body-is-a-clit drug injections you often see in mindbreak hentai.And the protagonist of Higanbana is a non-virgin who got her asshole humiliated and degraded on a daily basis for half a year, even though she's literally 11. A literal KID is less of a virgin cuck than ANGE, the biggest loser in the entire metaverse.Why is Ange so pathetic? A girl with her looks should be able to get Amakusa to fall in love with her. But instead, she gets killed without remorse.
>>21011467How can you be so sure that they are in fact virgins?
>>21011467>tfw Shion is so loyal to Satoshi that she will never fuck another guy>it will take years to cure him from the madness, plus a few more years to make his body healthy again after such a long coma>Shion will literally spend her teenage years NOT fucking anyone at all>she will kill herself by the time she's 25 after realizing that she just wasted her youth waiting for a guy who literally doesn't know or give a fuck about her
>>20996018Because they hated the idea of their waifu originally being a man.Additionally, people have problem with characters who are genuinely flawed, and VN readers are pretty big on the wish-fulfillment anspect.
>>20997118Generally the whole deal with her face and voice is kinda weird. She's supposed to look European as Beatrice, but clearly Japanese enough as Kanon and Shannon?
>>21011467Rose is pure and innocent until that one scene in season 2
>>21011535She never actually looks like Beatrice up close. Battler only sees her twice and her face is partially obscured by the rain/shadows.
>>21000524What's up with Ange not knowing the truth in Ep. VI? She definitely does in Ep. IV.
>>21011546I was thinking of meta-version, but fair point.
>>21009465I think the motive in general is the hardest thing to figure, probably due to the lack of proper answer you always ended up wonder if you were correct about some things. Battler completely forgiving Beatrice also really made things confusing.The "How" is easy as piss, but then again basically exists to make you question they why.
>>21011467Hanyuu is not a virgin.
>>21009339>I understand the point of Lion's character but I couldn't give a fuck about her/him/itYou don't care about Yasu?
>>21011530Yasu was never a man, though. A baby so young that its balls didn't have the time to influence its development in any way is not even a boy in my book. And he became an eunuch soon after that. Chromosomes don't really mean anything. Yasu is neither a boy nor a girl.I mean, we are all girls in the womb before going through with it or switching to male. That doesn't mean all men are really girls.It would be different if Yasu got fucked up as a young kid, because even at that age he would look slightly more masculine than a girl. But as a baby? That's just a step away from being still in the womb, so it's not really a big deal.George would tell that fucking crazy eunuch to fuck off, but not because she was originally a man (which she wasn't). It's because he wants to have a proper female waifu, not a weird in-between undeveloped fuck with no gender.
>>21011594>Yasu was never a man, though.Semantics, you know what I mean. People wanted Beatrice to be their perfect blonde waifu with huge breasts with no flaws>George would tell that fucking crazy eunuch to fuck off, but not because she was originally a man (which she wasn't). It's because he wants to have a proper female waifu, not a weird in-between undeveloped fuck with no gender.No, he wouldn't. R07 confirmed he would have accepted him. George rejecting Yasu would have gone with the message of the story anyway.
>>21011467>the protagonist of Higanbana is a non-virginIt's fucked up because all the other lolis are fantasizing about Kanamori, since he's a fairly attractive and popular teacher. But the one girl that actually gets to have sex with him is being raped, blackmailed and humiliated to the point of wanting to kill herself.
I love FredeRika Bernkastel!!
Midori simply loves ___________!
Post your TRUE 07thExpansion waifu.
>>21011535Let's ignore what the fake me said about purity and storks not being able to cry.What are storks most well known for in terms of mythology? Delivering babies, of course. Now, if we view WTC as one connected work, then perhaps it is as my dear Bernkastel said."Both the past and the future are... superscriptions of data."The future has already been written. But when we get to that future, perhaps the past itself shall change.And in the heavens, red and blue clash. But what is the purpose of the clash, the duel? Does it not seem strange that that nitwit, Furude Erika, used her blue truth as a single shot in the duel against Battler and Beatrice?The blue truth is meant to be used like a machine gun. And yet, Erika...
>>21011679She's my one and only witch of miracles.
>>21011676What came first: Miyoko's design for the anime or Lambda's design for Umineko?
>>21011692Bern is objectively the best because you know she's blessing you when your miracle doesn't come true
Why didn't Keiichi, Mion, Shion and Rena just throw rocks at Teppei, vandalize his house every day, fuck up his motorbike or just beat the ever-loving shit out of him in broad daylight? It's 4 vs 1. Eventually, the guy would be forced to leave town.Even if it got them arrested, it would be a better solution than committing murder or waiting for the authorities to find proof that he's abusing her. Dude is just a lazy fuck who can't do house chores, so I'm sure he'd just leave if staying in the village got him beaten up every other day. It's more trouble than it's worth.I guess he's a pretty scary guy and probably dumb enough to actually stab someone during a fight. But they could catch him off-guard with minimal witnesses and permanently break his fucking legs using metal bats, without him ever knowing who the fuck did it.It's not like a Hinamizawa villager would just turn Mion in. They'd probably just pretend they didn't see anything because nobody likes that guy anyway.
Kek, I never realized they literally described Rosatrice fans in Ep. VI. R07 is a genious.
>>21011822>Why didn't Keiichi, Mion, Shion and Rena just throw rocks at Teppei, vandalize his house every day, fuck up his motorbike or just beat the ever-loving shit out of him in broad daylight?How many days would that take? If it's longer than a week than Satoko would break and then they are all screwed.
>>21011822Also it would cause the abuse to Satoko to get worse, and she would probably tell them to stop and call the cops on them because she thinks that if she doesn't put up with the abuse Satoshi will never come home.
>>21011826"Yasu... did it all.""The promise... with Battler. It was... Yasu. It was... Yasu.""All other theories... are pointless. R07 said it... he confirmed it. The truth is what the author says is the truth..."The goats repeated the phrase, like a mantra. After all, the true author of the work, R07, said that Yasu was the culprit. The truth was there, for all to see. What use was there looking at the work in any other angle?
>>21011857>the true author of the work, R07, saidIt's irrelevant what he says. You're not that retarded so as to misrepresent the entire argument as being contingent just on his words outside of the story.
>>21011822>implying he's not fucking Satoko's tight little anus every night and forcing her to walk around the house naked on all fours like a dog to entertain his drunk friends as they play mahjongDude's got life all figured out. A bunch of teenagers can't stop him. He could probably send some of his gangster friends after the families of those kids.
>>21011854She's not that delusional. The problem is that Teppei is threatening to burn down Satoshi's room.
>>21011873>misrepresenting arguments using GoatsYeah, who would ever do such a heartless thing?
>>21011876Why would anyone want put their dick anywhere near the hole Satoko poops from? She's a human! Lolis are human! Ewww!
>>21011857>was the culpritDo you actually believe that this has any importance?
>>21011892Don't see anyone else doing it right now but you.
>>21011885Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the timeline for Tatarigoroshi was only a few weeks. When you factor in Teppei boosting the abuse up as he gets targeted, you can bet that Satoko will probably break before then.
>>21011902Not all lolis are dirty fucking humans. Not even close. Many of them are 2hus and other non-human creatures.
>>21011822I can't believe the motherfucker is a free man at the end of the story.
>>21011885>She's not that delusional.Isn't she?
>>21011910Do you actually believe it doesn't?
>>21011980Yes. I don't see how the identity of the culprit on the island that day matters to the main mystery of the story (the nature of Beatrice's existence) to the point where some people think it's somehow more important to explain that instead of providing actually coherent thoughts about the main characters of the story.
>>21012032Well, who do you think Beatrice is? Do you think she's JUST Yasu? And if so, why?
>>21012052>BeatriceThere are multiple characters with that name created by a single person (Yasu) for different purposes. This fact, and what those purposes are is pretty much outright stated in black text in EP6 and EP7 (unless the author was randomly lying for no apparent reason).>JUST YasuI don't know what you mean by this.
Ange should cover her thighs.
Ange should cover my face with her thighs
Ange should cover her thighs with my sperm.
I want to lie to Ange and tell her I know where her family really is, but will only tell her if she does sumata and lets me cum in her stockings.
>>21012052>Well, who do you think Beatrice is?Is that suppose to be a trick question? Which Beatrice are you talking about?
>>21012114What is black text ? I don't remember any of that.
>>21010300do it for the memes
If someone threw me off a cliff and I landed on a jagged rock genitals first I'd probably have some issues, too.
>>21013197Depends how cute you end up being
>>21013197Plus that'd just be the start of it. You'd also be raised as an orphan and made to work as a servant for the very person who threw you from said cliff, who would go about their life as if nothing had ever happened. Then there's the matter of falling in love only to be left behind, falling in love AGAIN and worrying the same will happen, and falling in love a third time for good measure just to give you more conflicted feelings. Also having no friends besides a 9 year old girl whose abusive mother was responsible for the death of your own mom, who was imprisoned and raped by your father, who was also her father, to sire you. Then there's the fact that everyone you've ever loved is actually related to you, and that your dream of starting a family of your own to make up for a life's worth of loneliness can never be fulfilled because you're unable to bear children.
>>21013405Then there's the fact that the only people who'd ever shown you any familial love were actually lying to you about your identity and purposefully raised you as the wrong sex to keep you hidden from said rapist dad.
Is this the tranny general?
>>21013530without love it cannot be seen
>>21013192Who the actual heckerino is this?
>>21013546Some chick from Trianthology. Lambda insert maybe?
>>21013536we respect them here
>>21013133Don't listen to the witches. Black text isn't real, just like them.
>>21013702*as long as they're cute
>>21013708I have realized that I said that in black text. And I'm saying this in black text, too.
Just how much humiliation does Shion deserve?
>>21013715they're always cute
>>21011467I'd rather be a virgin than a humiliated loli, thanks.
>>21013721I wonder what a taser shot on the testicles feels like
>>21013724It's not fair, they never look so cute in 3d
>>21013724Lion is not trans.
>>21007962What is pre Hanyu
>>21013996Lion is a magic character that represents a "miracle" version of Yasu, that's why his/her world is literally full of magic bullshit, golden roses and stuff like that. Hell, Will can interact with the family despite being a non-existent meta man.The "real" Lion never existed in any fragment, but he would definitely be a relatively normal dude. Magic Lion looks androgynous as fuck because it's more comfortable for Yasu to imagine. Lion's entire philosophy about gender and shit is something that s/he came up with at some point in his/her life, but that life was conjured up by Yasu's imagination anyway.Lion can be whatever gender you want, that's the whole point of the character. They are a fantasy character just like the others.
>>21014080Are those desserts supposed to be lewd drawings?
>>21014089>The "real" Lion never existed in any fragment, but he would definitely be a relatively normal dudehow do you know thatone of the point of lion's character is that even without the genital mutilation, Yasu would still struggle with her gender identity
>>21014132>Yasu would still struggle with her gender identityThere is nothing about that picture that suggest that. The point of that picture is to show that Willard doesn't care, making him the perfect partner for Lion. Lion is Yasu's dream, Yasu dreams to be complete, the fall is the point in which Yasu's life fell apart. Lion is "complete" in a way Yasu isn't.
>>21014089That sounds like an interesting interpretation, but to me Lion being a fantasy character would go against the point of their existence. They're supposed to show that a happy life was possible for Yasu, not just as an imaginary outcome, but as a real, tangible world. That's what gives it weight when it's revealed that even in such a miraculous world, they still end up dying.As for the fantasy elements, the golden Roses could easily just be ornamental ones covered in gold leaf. Will's probably been placed on the board in a similar manner Erika was. Kinzo being alive can be attributed to having a stronger attachment to life with Beatrice's child still there for him.
>>21014191>There is nothing about that picture that suggest that."I've developed a bit of a complex about it". I agree that this doesn't necessarily indicate self-doubt about his gender, but it's still closer to that than to being a relatively normal dude or being "anything you want".
>>21014223Yeah, no shit, he looks like both genders, of course he'd have a complex about it.
>>21014194>That sounds like an interesting interpretation, but to me Lion being a fantasy character would go against the point of their existence.Not him, but it really depends on how you see the story and the various meta/fragments levels.
Bottoming for Lion.
>>21014257I see Lion's world as a fragment from outside the catbox. But now that I think about it, it'd be weird for Bern to be able to make something like that into her gameboard. Then again, it could just be Featherine ignoring the rules again, like making Bern game master even though she doesn't know the answer to the mysteries.
>>21013719Literally just switch the style to midnight bro
>>21014194>Lion being a fantasy character would go against the point of their existenceDepends on what you mean by "fantasy character". Lion representing an achievable happy life for Yasu doesn't necessarily imply physically existing in some fragment with more ideal circumstances. It doesn't even matter since all magic scenes still talk about "reality". That world doesn't need to exist outside of fiction/fantasy to still be real and tangible.
>>21014253people that look androgynous dont automatically question their gender identity
>>21014327He's not questioning his gender identity. He's keeping it hidden because he has a complex about his look and it allows him to be Yasu's dream, someone who is accepted by his partner regarding of his sex.
>>21014322I guess. Stuff like that is often left pretty vague so you're free to interpret it how you wish. The true nature of the meta world, how it relates to reality, the sea of fragments, the catbox, etc.
>>21013536It's the tranny appreciation thread (but only if she, or at least her projection on the abstract plane, is cute)
>>21014132>one of the point of lion's character is that even without the genital mutilation, Yasu would still struggle with her gender identity>tumblr filenameOf course.
>>21014415And only if they exist on a higher plane as a cute girl with big tits.
also I've been wondering but what's the deal with the idea that beatrice is "a witch that lives 1000s of years" a lot of the stuff in umineko has double meanings and when I read it initally I thought that was because the OG beatrice was born 1000 of years ago but it isn't the case and the 1000 year old witch stuff is never mentionned in the later chapters
>>21014493>One-winged eagle braLooks like Natsuhi's not the only one with the eagle emblazoned on her heart.
>>21014518It's a hyperbole. The 6 years spent waiting for Battler felt like a thousand. In reality she's 19.
>>21014538Which is kinda silly to be honest because R07 is implying Yasu's life was worse than Bern.
>>21014634Where are you getting this from? The only thing he's implying is that it felt like 1000 years for her.
>>21014194The fact that Lion's world ends in tragedy suggests that the androgynous blonde Lion with a perfect life that we see in EP7 is in fact a magical character existing in a fantasy world.Why does Lion's world still end with the Rokkenjima massacre? How the hell does it happen if there is nobody there to explain to Rudolf and Kyrie that there's a bomb to rewrite the events of that night? Why would they even do it if there is no Yasu and therefore no 2 billion credit card? They'd be blowing up the gold and get nothing out of the deal. And why can't other versions of Lion exist in worlds where the siblings don't fight each other? Why is this doomed version of Lion the only one that can be Yasu's miracle?It all suggests to me that Lion and his/her world, as presented in EP7, is all fantasy. The reason it ends in tragedy despite it barely making sense and there are no other worlds where Lion survives... is because Lion is the dead cat."Lion" never existed in the real world, Natsuhi fucked him up and turned him into Yasu. His world and every possible timeline he exists in as "Lion" are all imaginary and trapped in the catbox ANYWAY. Lion's world can only end in tragedy because that's what happened IRL. He's a fantasy that gets overwritten by the reality of what actually happend on the island.That's why Will tells Lion to "resist" and not acknowledge the fact that s/he was shot in the chest, even though it would make no sense for any other character. This version of Lion is not bound to any particular world, s/he is literally FANTASY and has the potential to ignore reality, the whole catbox shit and what happens at the end of each fragment.Any other character, including the gameboard pieces or someone like meta-battler, has to accept the fact that they can't live past October 6, because the catbox situation ends after the second day and there is only one result: the island exploded. But Lion is different, because he's a fantasy version of Yasu existing in a perfect fantasy world where everything is perfect. He's not tied to reality and doesn't have to accept Bern's shit. He can live beyond that day and have the happy life that Yasu desired, just like all the other fantasy creatures have their own worlds and lives. He can even be of either gender, unlike the "real" Lion/Yasu.Will says it himself near the end of EP7. Bern is trying to apply mystery logic to a fantasy world. She is trying to lock Lion's world up inside the catbox, tricking Lion into thinking he belongs there. But once he realizes the truth, he doesn't have to deal with any of that shit and can live on. At least until EP8 when all the fantasy creatures on Rokkenjima are put in danger.
>>21014653Because Bern calls herself a 100 years old witch.
>>21014667>The fact that Lion's world ends in tragedy suggests that the androgynous blonde Lion with a perfect life that we see in EP7 is in fact a magical character existing in a fantasy world.Lion exists in the sea of fragments. Depending how you see the story - the sea of fragments is either a bunch of stories or real parallels universes.>Why does Lion's world still end with the Rokkenjima massacre?I mean, that assumes Bern was telling the truth.
>>21014667All the different gameboard worlds are part of the catbox. They are all possible results of Beatrice's roulette, but they have to end the same way.But Lion's world isn't part of it. It's a complete fantasy from beginning to end, since Lion was never a thing to begin with, so it doesn't have to adhere to the catbox rules or "match the result" of the island exploding at the end. Lion's world exists on the level of the "fantasy narrative" of the regular gameboards, not on the level of the "mystery narrative" where the human pieces actually perform the tricks.
>>21014702It says a thousand year too
>>21014757what's the deal with lambda and bern anywayin tsubasa it's revealed that bern manipulated takano but it's hanyuu that made rika suffer the same fate over and over again and the game was left with no goal because she forgot the rules halfway through, was it lambda that gave hauhau her powers ?
>>21014789>in tsubasa it's revealed that bern manipulated takano but it's hanyuu that made rika suffer the same fate over and over again and the game was left with no goal because she forgot the rules halfway through, was it lambda that gave hauhau her powers ?I think you are confused
>>21014705>Lion exists in the sea of fragments. Depending how you see the story - the sea of fragments is either a bunch of stories or real parallels universes.The sea of fragments is an infinite collection of possible worlds that can exist as a result of even the smallest change in variables.But it's implied in both Higurashi and Umineko that those "possibilities" only become real parallel worlds once they are EXPERIENCED by a consciousness and become real. Until that happens, they are just possibilities. Imaginary worlds.Rika and Hanyuu turned hundreds of "possible worlds" into actual parallel worlds by travelling through them and experiencing them. That's why those worlds alone resonated with some of her friends and gave them strange deja-vus that allowed them to avoid commiting the same mistakes again.But they don't experience even the faintest echoes of memories of other possible worlds, even though ANYTHING, no matter how bizarre, could happen within the sea of infinite possiblities and completely change their lives, the way they were raised, the people they met or how many siblings they have. They only occasionally have presentiments and deja-vus about things that happened in worlds Rika went through (meaning they were made real and exist as parallel worlds).Literally every possible variable that could have been different since the beginning of the universe leads to a completely different possible world in the sea of fragments. But only a few hundreds of those possible worlds were actually turned into REAL alternate universes by the act of Rika experiencing them (and in turn, making every person in that world experience them too).
>>21014798I mean Lambda maniuplated takano
>>21014805Higurashi/Umineko parallel worlds doesn't seem to work in the same ways as typical parallel words too, see for example Lion's world being such a low probability instead of a yes/no choice.In the same fashion, Takano's parents seem to die in every scenario but one.
>>21014810Hanyuu literally a Kami nobody gave her powers. It was uncertain if Rika ascension was planned or not because what she experienced was one process of ascension.
>>21014814I think that takano's parents die in every scenario that hanyuu can jump intoin my headcanon, hanyuu can only go into the world where the disaster can happen, because she needed rike to die for her powers to be used fo the first timejust like bern searching for a very rare fragment where lion is alive, bern searched for the fragment where 34's parent didnt die, since takano still got on the train
>>21014789It's all a metaphor. Takano never interacted with any sort of paranormal entity like Lambda. Even the Hanyuu scene was a bit sketchy.It most likely wasn't even a "game" in the first place. They call it a game, but it was more like a thing that happened. Lambda noticed Takano's strong will and used her powers to guarantee that everything would go her way if she never lost her willpower. It's just a metaphor, a magical interpretation of what actually happened. Of course someone so devoted to a goal would reduce the chances of failing to almost zero, you don't need a witch rooting for you from a higher plane of existence.As a result of that, Hanyuu tried to save RIka and ended up in a century long struggle against this one persistent human whose strong will and determination accounted for every possible obstacle and guaranteed that even bad luck wouldn't be able to fuck up her carefully crafted plan.It wasn't a literal witch game. It was just a struggle between a human who literally shaped fate and a god who wasn't happy with it. Lambda just watched it all unfold eating popcorn.
>>21014805Does this mean that dozens of alternate versions of Satoko had to experience torture at the hands of Shion, all because of Hanyuu?If she had just let Rika die the first time it happened, no alternate fragments would've been made real. The possibility of Shion going nuts would've been there, within the fabric of space-time, but it would just be a scary possibility that never came into fruition, rather than a literal real parallel world actually experienced by humanity as a whole that will forever exist in the higher planes alongside the original world.No wonder RIka feels guilty about all the shit that happens to her friends. None of that shit would've had a chance of happening if she didn't keep bringing alternate worlds from the imaginary plane into actual existence in the metaverse.
>>21014839>It most likely wasn't even a "game" in the first place. They call it a game, but it was more like a thing that happened. Lambda noticed Takano's strong will and used her powers to guarantee that everything would go her way if she never lost her willpower. It's just a metaphor, a magical interpretation of what actually happened. Of course someone so devoted to a goal would reduce the chances of failing to almost zero, you don't need a witch rooting for you from a higher plane of existence.To be fair magic literally exists in Higurashi.But it literally depends on how you see the story, really.
>>21014875hanyuu litteraly comes from the moon
>>21014871I feel like it's kinda implied that hanyuu is at fault to a certain extent, like in ep 7 and rei
>>21014814That's the thing. Anything could happen within the sea of fragments, including a world where Miyoko's dad had a hard life growing up and ended up raping his daughter in the ass after coming home drunk. If you change the right variables, you could make that world a reality. It's out there.The thing is, such a world literally doesn't exist as a real world that anyone has actually experienced and lived through, because the only beings capable of turning those possiblitities into real split timelines never made it happen. Hanyuu didn't have the power to go that far back in the first place, let alone the motivation or the knowledge to make Miyoko's dad turn out that way.So no version of Miyoko in the entire multiverse has ever experienced such a thing, ever. Despite the fact that it's technically a possible world and that fragment is out there, waiting for a witch to experience it as a story and, by doing that, make it real.
>>21014839>guaranteed that even bad luck wouldn't be able to fuck up her carefully crafted plan>gives Shion the scrapbooks to fuck with her>she goes insane and kills Rika, ruining her entire plan and exposing grandpa as a fraud
>>21014871>Satoko had to experience torture at the hands of Shion, all because of Hanyuu?>no alternate fragments would've been made real.>No wonder RIka feels guilty about all the shit that happens to her friends. None of that shit would've had a chance of happening if she didn't keep bringing alternate worlds from the imaginary plane into actual existence in the metaverse.What the fuck am I reading. I can't understand if you are theory crafting or implying that its what exactly was happening in the story. >>21014887Where is that confirmed? So she is Kaguya? That explains the horns.
>>21014875As opposed to metaphorically depending on how you see the story?
>>21014936higurashi hau is a wild ride
>>21011659Why do lolis bully other lolis? Do they enjoy humiliation? That's too perverted to be true.
>>21014978Everybody enjoys humiliating the cute, even if you are a cute girl yourself.
Humiliation is overrated.
>>21015394Any kind of BDSM is overrated now even normies think that shit is normal.
>>21014431it's kinda in the text tho
>>21002490Not that anon, but I removed all the code from the script files for both parts of umineko, and uploaded it to mega a couple months ago: #!VPJ1QYbD!3fRfVZUaVki9B_erhR3-oNHSXKAxIvwxSf_w8JW0y2MIts 1.2m words so depending on your text editor it may lag. Make sure to turn off spell-check.
>>20997977>no "it was only natural">no "UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>>20997977Is this legit?
Why do Americans call Beato "Bido"?
>>21015781We say 'bayatriss'
>>21015781I call her Bee-ah-toe or beh-ah-toe
If Saku is truly a fanfiction, then the official Saku OP won't reflect its nature, but rather, a fan made video.Also if we're going to be corny about the phrase fanfiction, Jessica literally wrote a "fan" fiction
What is "Jessica and the killer electric fan" even about?
>>21015816What's the fun in that?You have to say BEATORICHEEEEEEEAYLMAO
Ryukishi07, who was interested in video games, anime and manga, studied at a vocational school that specialized in art. During that time, he wrote doujinshi. During his time in college, he tried to write manga and novels, but he came to realize that "No matter your passion for something, without skill, you can never make it as a professional." One day, he met with a colleague from a theatre troupe, and he was inspired to write a play called Hinamizawa Bus Stop (雛見沢停留所 Hinamizawa Teiryūjo) which he submitted to a contest that he later lost.One of Ryukishi's younger brothers, who was inspired by the success of Type-Moon's visual novel Tsukihime, suggested that he and Ryukishi create their own sound novel. Ryukishi would ultimately restructure Hinamizawa Bus Stop into the episodic visual novel series, Higurashi When they Cry.After graduating from the vocational school, he dreamed of becoming a video game developer, so he focused on finding a job at a video game manufacturer. However, none of his attempts at this were successful. Reluctantly, he took up a position at a menswear store, from which he got inspired, but after a few months, he tentatively took up an offer for a civil service position based on the civil service test that he had taken during the job search.In a 2012 interview with Damien Bandrac for the Journal du Japon, Ryukishi07 said that:Initially, my audience was otaku who attend Comiket, which are a very small fraction of Japanese otaku, themselves a small part of Japanese people in general! I never thought for one second that I could be read, published, edited at the other end of the planet, in France... As for Higurashi, I never thought that people outside Japan might be interested. Umineko in particular is a text that even Japanese people can have difficulty reading. So, to imagine that foreigners have made the effort to read it, understand it, and translate it, is an indescribable happiness to me.His writing has been described as alternating between "macabre scenes and schoolboy humor". He has said that, "a story should be like a roller coaster. That is to say before writing a really cruel scene, I have to lift the people's spirits, for example, with a fun scene... Before writing a scene of pure despair, we must go through scenes of hope. And indeed, when I write, all of this amuses me very much."
Post your favorite 07th expac wallpaper.
The humanbeingness of Oosheeromeeya Satoggo!
>>21016469Satokoは.She justは.She just, like, totally fuckingは.She wasn't proud of it, but was going to be hard not to は when she's such a lewd ass roree keed.
Is it still possible to download the old RGD demo from 2012? Where?I'm curious about it.
Saku's logo is covered in thorns. Ergo, it will be edgy."Every rose has its thorns."
>>21016638Does Beatrice smoke a single time in the VN?
>>21014810yes and no, lambda in the real world is an abstract concept, more than having manipulated her she acted/manifested herself through her
>>21016879She does in the manga at least but I don't remember in the VN
Ah Umineko, that weeb game about witches, right? The white haired one was my favourite
>>21016926I'm pretty sure they mention her blowing a cloud of smoke at least once. Maybe in Episode 2 when she makes Kanon's body disappear.
>>21016879Tomitake literally smokes in Tatarigoroshi.I didn't expect that at all.
>>21017141Wait is Tomitake Beatrice?
what if ryukishi draws a sprite of someone turned around
>>21014565This is a nice Erika
>>21018034We need to go lewder.
Respect Ryukishi that he had an eye on favourite community's memes
>>21018420og beato sprites are definitely better.I still believe it was small bombs
>>21018560How about meeting halfway?
>>21018826this is PERFECTO
>>21019117Thanks. It's a bit hit or miss, but Beato's fits perfectly.
>>21014875Now we get into the "WEIRD SHIT", where Battler and Beatrice's game might actually have impact outside of Rokkenjima.That is, for each game Beatrice wins, magic does exist. But if Battler manages to deny her, he might actually get to deny magic.This would make things very weird because essentially Bernkastel is spending all her time trying to eliminate magic, and therefore, herself.But it was always somewhat questionable that Hanyuu intervened to save Rika from her destiny in the first place, and in such a bizarre way, too.
>>21019762>That is, for each game Beatrice wins, magic does exist. But if Battler manages to deny her, he might actually get to deny magic.If you understand what magic is, it already exists.>>21019762>This would make things very weird because essentially Bernkastel is spending all her time trying to eliminate magic, and therefore, herself.Bernkastel exists beyond magic. Umineko's world is just a small island in the sea of fragments.
>>21019234>>21019281I love them. Are you the one doing them ? Do you have more ?
>>21020006Yeah, I am. I've made like one or two more. Might make more in the future.
>>21014839Hanyuu actually saved Takano too. She gets to live a full life, while in all the other worlds she is probably killed off by Tokyo to eliminate any possible witnesses.
>>21020208This looks like he has down syndrome.
>>21020414he looks pretty cool.>>21020208please do. We need people like you to make humanity progress.
>>21020453Let me know if you have any requests for certain expressions for characters. I'll keep them in mind.
>>21020857I have to ask for Erika.
>Saku comes out>it's unironically a Battler and Jessica fanfiction
>>21021359>Saku comes out>it's the answer arc to ciconia
>Saku comes out>R07 was actually Nasu all along
>Saku comes out>Ryukishi07 reveals that we were the culprit all along
>Saku comes out>Ryukishi07 comes out and murders us in a finale closed room mystery
>Saku comes out>R07 traps us in purgatorio in order to force us to solve the final locked room mystery of his heart
>Saku comes out>It's a Rokkenjima battle royale
>Saku comes out>R07 walks the dinosaur
>>21021594it didn't need to end like this
>>21021658the real thousand year old witch was R07, didn't you know? he was waiting for us to solve umineko, even after all this time he continued to believe, but we failed him.
Has anyone ever written a paper analyzing the musical themes and leitmotifs in umineko? I'd love to read something like that.
>>21021247Erika's troll face looks almost identical.
>>21021976Nope. Only ones on the narrative techniques.
>>21021976Well the moon is, funnily enough, associated with Jessica. As much as Kanon goes on about milady shining like the sun.I suppose the symbolism there would be Kanon is the sun, and Jessica is just a reflection of his own brightness?Well, Kanon is the only one of the Yasu personas with love in it. (Yoshiya, in addition to being a Jesus name, has "ai" in it)Jessica's association with the moon also ties into the theme of illusion. In that moonlight is an illusion, it's just a reflection of the sun.But then again, the moon itself isn't an illusion. You can see it during the day.I don't know. Remember how much of a banger dreamenddischarger is and then we follow up that moment with Lambda and Bern saying it was merely an act on Beato's part?The music too might just be a pointless illusion
incase you degenerates werent awarehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=AvvTbgdqj1M
>>21022379>tfw its dead
>>21022206>tfw Jessica will never moon the goats to disrespect them, not realizing that she's humiliating herself by showing off her ass like that