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Guide
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>20989068
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op=fag
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There's already a thread up.
>>20994651
ACTUAL THREAD
>>20994651
>>20994651
>>20994651
>>20994651

sage
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we need a redo on this thread its already over

also lmao @ matt
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labrador retriever
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>>20994687
There's a lot of people who never use RTK and reach fluency. And the gap between when I finished RTK and when I learned vocab for each kanji in RTK was so long that I had forgotten most of RTK's keywords so it's basically as if I hadn't done it. And I learned words fine.
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do you think the tears well up in matt's eyes when he reads djt and sees people making fun of him
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why would he cry about djt he doesnt even read comments about myself
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if ur gonna make a shittier op than me can u at least put a minute of effort into it
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i had a new OP image ready to go but he beat me to it
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>>20994881
lmaoooo this needs to be used at some point
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last time on dragonballz

https://streamable.com/6hm1z
https://streamable.com/q9ke3

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t035_8aHY1Q
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>>20994867
>>20994881
Well I hate making new OPs because I don't wanna get a number wrong or something. I only do it because you faggots take too long. 2 minutes without DJT and I start hyperventilating.
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that aint a minute of effort either
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>>20994881
i think itscool were really to talk about erromango island again in tyool 2019
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>>20994855
But at least you can write characters from memory. Who cares about the keywords, that's not the improtant bit.
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>>20994904
>But at least you can write characters from memory.
I can't write most anymore because I've forgotten. And I was OK with forgetting because writing is a worthless skill that I could learn later more easily.
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matt not knowing what a labrador retriever is makes me think hes just retarded in all areas of life
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i bet matt sama's accent is WAY better than anyone's in this thread
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>>20994930
what if in his mind he was doing it on purpose to try and make himself seem more japanese but then the huge lol is that japanese ppl know what labs are too but he wouldnt know cuz he spent all his japan time in the toilet lmfao
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>>20994930
you can seriously tell he is. there was another part where he couldnt give a translation for 恵まれている without looking it up in english
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a certain someone just tweeted that he's having a hard time with bopomofo and is hoping childrens songs will help
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>Kana wasn't that bad, because every single sound was familiar. But Bopomofo....omg. I'm having a hard time with it. There are so many sounds that sound foreign to my ears. I'm about to search for some kids resources and learn through songs along with my deck.
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im fuckin dead man. the guy seriously needs to listen to 10,000 hours of english surtitled peking opera before he starts on this shit
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>>20994930
How can anyone who claims any familiarity with Japan not know what a labrador retriever is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzdhDr4t84I
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzdhDr4t84I

If only Matt had seen this
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>>20994887
im already better than matt i never thought the day would come so soon it only took 4 eroge
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>>20994972
>>20994976
fukken hivemind
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>>20994976
>>20994972
based AKBros
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just chatted with two esl japanese students at my daigaku, i got the jozuu so i guess i'm still madamada desu...
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well now i know theres 2 of u and u both use uppercase

very fitting
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>>20994991
u shoulda just asked them if it was the real jozu or the fake (see ryan boundless vid) jozu
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calvin's next move is "i'm not gonna learn how to read yet i'm just gonna listen to raw chinese so my accent is perfect like matt says" i guarantee
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>>20994995
joke's on you i switch between upper and lowercase all the time
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>>20995017
its no joke on me i already know i just look for the posts that really blow and it leads me right to u
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>>20995013
my money is still on "i should have listened to matt about heisig im gonna do rth before bopomofo"
>>20995017
weak
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パイズリ大乱交
30本チンポを抜きまくる
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>>20995017
unf
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>>20995016
you're not wrong but we don't allow explicit racism here dude.
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>>20995005
It's not the real jozuu, my pitch was probably all over the place and I made some grammatical mistakes. At least I didn't say i want to become the isshiban suyoi though.
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>ur face when you realized djt was trumps initials
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>>20995017
wtf kind of dog is that in the background? never seen it before
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are there more tv streams like dsgstng? something like disney or fox but japan's version of it
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>>20994954
>a certain someone just tweeted that he's having a hard time with bopomofo
can someone just inform him that things you haven't learned yet tend to be hard and need practice?
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>>20995013
his next move is "...si hago cosas como esta... no tengo que... pensar sobre nada... decidir nada.
.. y me hace recordar... que aùn estoy viva..."
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>>20995005
wait is there a real jozu
>>20995035
if he figures that out hell have too much power
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>>20995035
is this what these NPC retards who are like "i was a gifted child and now i cant learn anything because if i dont understand it instantly i give up" are like?
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>>20995043
yea but u need a pretty high level in a certain stat for that dialogue option to unlock
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ive never had a sincere jouzu only something else after 20mins of talking to them like "日本語本当にうまいっすね” or some shit and im like yeah i eat it all the time
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calvin doesnt strike me as a "gifted" child
"special", maybe
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>>20995017
Why is that sweetheart freaking out?
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So the only e celebs you can listen to are dogen, khatz, and possibly brit now?
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>>20995040
oh calvin why
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the only eceleb i listen to is xiaovin motherfucker
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>>20995054
is there any bigger tragedy than getting ur told ur jozu in earnest but being too cranially crippled to understand it lol
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>>20995059
dogen=blowgen
khatz doesnt even exist so no fun name for him
brit=shit
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Yoga isn't happen
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The other trump thread links to jamals gay NEET crew I think.
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How am I supposed to get this right
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>>20995058
she's afraid of dogs
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>>20995074
>happen
happy
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havent u guys seen the hentai games where the cute girl gets dogged ?
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>>20995074
never thought i'd say this but based
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>>20995077
desu just delete that card its not a common usage at all
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>>20995074
yoga strikes me as severely autistic
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>>20995077
wording >>20995089
i don't think i've ever seen this used
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>>20995095
its not like you can literally hear it in his voice or anything
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Do you guys even read anything besides your stupid anki cards?
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>>20995074
yoga strikes me as that kid in school that literally everyone didnt like and he also smelled like shit cuz br LOL
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>>20995089
u might say its not the kogo
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>>20995099
i just read an article about japan-korea relations it was a pain in the ass
>日韓の軍事情報包括保護協定
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which one of you is this
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>>20995100
the yogapants pic needs to be above the other 2 for maximum lmao
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>>20995107
i mean tbf General Security of Military Information Agreement is a word salad to me in english too
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>>20995074
>Well, yeah. Mandarin is Mandarin. People from the mainland and folks from Taiwan can communicate without too much trouble. Similar to how I, an American, can communicate with people from the UK with no issue whatsoever. I like Taiwan more than China, so I will learn that variety.
How will Yoga recover? His autistic ass needs to go back to making yomichan dictionaries or w/e he does.
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>>20995128
dang all the mia shitters gettin destroyed today
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why is 電波教師 translated to Ultimate Otaku Teacher but 電波女と青春男 is Electrowave Girl and Youthful Boy
what does 電波 mean, aside from radio/electromagnetic waves?
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> I like Taiwan more than China, so I will learn that variety.

"Taiwanese Mandarin makes use of the traditional Chinese characters as opposed to the simplified Chinese characters used in the PRC. "

this should go well
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>>20995128
Isn't all the interesting Chinese media from China though? The Taiwanese output must be tiny compared to it, even if you only compare to mandarin
It'd be like learning Japanese while only immersing with Tsugaru-ben
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>>20995138
i think u gotta literally read more or smth on this 1 to fully appreciate teh 電波h
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>>20995138
have u tried google
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>>20995138
see with 10k eng subbed anime you wouldnt be asking questions like this
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>>20995138
its not "translated" its a localisation decision that has not much to do with the original japanese
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to think i told som1 to read more and some1 else told him to watch 10k hours of eng subbed anime

djts in a real fuckin good spot rn
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>>20995138
denpa man, denpa!!!
You're here in /jp/ and dont know what denpa is?
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>>20995138
even wikipedia denpa song page can help you:
"The term "denpa" (電波, "electromagnetic waves") originally arose in the 1990s to describe quirky individuals who often daydream and live in their personal fantasies, and derives from the Fukagawa Street Murders in 1981."
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>>20995150
>>20995166
where or what do I read?

>>20995152
no, google is bad and confusing to search japanese stuff

>>20995158
I already did that

>>20995164
so it's a rewrite?

>>20995180
I want a better explanation
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>>20995191
ah, thank you, that's all I needed
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>>20995192
ur not gonna get a better explanation than eng wiki theres a little more than the other dude posted
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>>20995196
lmao
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>>20995192
even the wiki page for the fuckin thing youre talking about answers your question. this is how bad you are at the internet
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its ok dude hes basically up to speed now
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>>20995202
chill he said google is bad and confusing so obviously theres somethin wrong with him
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if it was matt hed read it as dengo
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>>20995077
逆上
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>>20995202
I usually don't use wikipedia when searching about anime and mangas
anyways, thank you

>>20995208
you are interpreting my words wrongly but I will not refute your comment
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>>20995234
you're too polite to be here
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By the way tomogakis learning japanese has made my life happier than it was before. I need to express my gratitude for this reason to you djt. Thank you.
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lol matt liked yoga's tweet about calvin learning taiwan mandarin
how about you actually help your boy out instead of sitting on twitter like a faggot when hes paying you 10 bucks a month
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>>20995258
>itazuraneko
And I love itazuraneko website. My love to the guys who worked on it.
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thats it im starting a patreon
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>>20995261
shameful. shameful.
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>>20995275
Do it you fucken pansy
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>>20995261
maybe he stopped paying
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>>20995280
what and end up like this guy fat fuckin chance
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>>20995283
didnt he post his into in discord like yesterday or two days ago? crazy sh1t
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calvins just one huge african mess
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傷 疵 瑕 創
luv this language
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nvm lol
https://www.kanjipedia.jp/sakuin/doukunigi/items/0001334000
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>>20995286
its like his mandarin journey is compressing his japanese journey from a year to three weeks
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>>20995301
wait this site is so nice actually
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>>20995144
Taiwan and maybe Hong Kong are the only parts of "China" that have unrestricted global internet access, and I'm not even sure about Hong Kong anymore. If you want to talk to Chinese people online, Taiwanese is the way to go.
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anyone know where I can pirate atok?
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>>20995337
Took me a moment to figure out that this is a fantasy setting
Now it makes sense
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>>20995356
What is an atok?
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You could have prevented the public humiliation of Tae Kim and the gradual obsolescence of his guide. You could have prevented it. But you didn't. You twiddled your thumbs and cheered him on, hoping everything would resolve itself. But you should know better. A single person can't fight back against a circlejerk of eternal beginners alone.

You could have prevented the death and obsolescence of DJT and the end of the filtering-out and fixing-in of sane learning materials. You could have prevented it. But you didn't. In the name of fairness and neutrality, you filled the guide with garbage, triggered hundreds of hours of arguments about RTK, redistributed terrible anki decks and kanji books made by people with negative amounts of understanding of Japanese, and exposed it all to the wider internet, attracting political spam so bad the thread got banned from /a/. But you should know better. Neutrality attracts conflict, of all kinds, intellectual, ideological, and civil.

You could have prevented the rise of Matt and MIA and the degradation of input-based learning methods. You could have prevented it. But you didn't. You pointed and laughed, saying, that's hilarious, nobody's going to buy that. But you should know better. Underage weebs and mentally unwell young adults don't have such clear judgment as you.

All we've got left is George, our nico nico douga memes, and our porn. Lots, and lots, and lots, of porn.
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>>20995393
Once a thread is sufficiently shit nobody wants to seriously engage with it anymore.
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Was gonna mention Steve but he's just having his brain rot away due to old age, nothing special there.
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>>20995378
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATOK
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what r u talking about the guide is perfect look at this guide
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>>20995397
That doesn't have anything to do with my post. DJT was cozy on /a/ before the OP site got too "good" and the thread started attracting people from other boards and sites.
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>>20995408
that is so good
do you have a parteon perhaps?
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On another note, I'm glad my エロマンガ先生(薄い本などに関係がない。島です。) shilling finally started paying off.
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>>20995393
>You could have prevented the rise of Matt and MIA and the degradation of input-based learning methods.
But MIA is input-based, and pretty much everyone here advocates for input-based learning anyways
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>>20995393
not gonna lie i dont care about saving dudes like this and they deserve their fate

https://streamable.com/ay43z
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>>20995422
You have bad reading comprehension.
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>>20995408
the best part about this image is all the people who edited it used the default font in paint dot net so it looks completely coherent
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>>20995428
Are you saying it's degraded just because it's part of MIA? That's kind of silly
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>>20995439
People are silly.
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>>20995423
he clears his throat before saying his laptop is for japanese
punk bitch might be hiding eroge
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Why is Ika Musume recommended for beginners? でゲソ is very complex and advanced Japanese grammar.
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>>20995457
えろかわいい
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>>20995455
u know he is hiding GBs of eroge with that kind of pause
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>>20995393
tae kim is sufficient. djt is just like every other 4chan thread and "learning materials" from here don't matter. matt and mia don't matter and if anything it helps popularize input.
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>>20995463
low gbs though cuz when u get past a certain threshold u dont pause anymore
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>>20995465
You might want to wander outside of 4chan some time.
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my dad found out i'm making the monolingual transition and kicked me out of the house
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>>20995393
Who cares? Any general thread is doomed to go to shit sooner or later (assuming it wasn't already shit to begin with). The "solution" is obviously to make non-general, non-template threads about the Japanese language. But that would be too hard, wouldn't it?
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陰核(へのこ) - testicles, penis
陰核(いんかく)- clitoris
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>>20995471
i do. people don't mention mia because it doesn't matter.
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if japanese threads stood on their own without a general we could focus on what really matters with a banger general
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>>20995477
Go back to your IRC circlejerk or wherever you guys sit around now. Your views on how communities work and how information gets around the internet don't reflect reality.
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>>20995478
They are basically the same thing after all.
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>>20995478
Nips know their anatomy.
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>>20995484
I don't think they would delete your nihongo banger general, but you might have to make many threads before you start to get bumps.
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>>20995488
its good u 2 got somethin in common
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>>20995337
Change your fucking font you god damn stupid foreigner pig.
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>>20995488
If you want to make a thread that functions as an entirely separate entity from the board it's on, go ahead, but don't be surprised when the board's users feel alienated from you while outsiders flock like flies.
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>>20995515
If you actually looked at this site, you'd understand that it's your own fault, not the fault of people posting about getting closer to the media the board is for.
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what's a more specific aspect of japanese learning that a thread could be made about??
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>>20995531
I don't even know what you're talking about. This thread has been filled with people who don't care about anime, VNs etc since the /a/ days, and it's because generals are cancer.
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this yojijukugo goes out to carbin
初志貫徹
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Yeah I'm glad this thread's residents don't liveblog their anime and VNs and manga and light novels and games that would be really annoying. That doesn't mean they're not consuming them or that they don't drop recommendations on other people.

Alternatively: Oh no, the thread isn't filled from top to bottom with bad image memes made by people who watched three episodes of some show and spent twenty hours shitposting about it in a template thread with its name in the subject field, it must not have anyone who cares about actually consuming media in it.

I know you've felt this way for a super god damn long time, but get real. The reason that 4chan is full of paranoid boogeymanning, eceleb trash, and ideological spam is bad moderation. It doesn't matter what thread it is. If it's interesting, bad posters will come. You have to deal with them. Self moderation has never worked. And it's never going to work. No matter how much you think it should. Don't pin the management's failures and willful ignorance on the attendees.
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On that note, I'm going to go devour a delicious volume of エロマンガ先生, topped with mayonaise and apple cider vinegar. Farewell.
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Someone convince me to stop listening to music and study more kanji, pls
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>>20995575
Listen to more music and stop studying kanji. And stop listening to whoever told you to study kanji. Watch anime and read porn instead.
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キャンセル
Expected meaning: cancer
Actual meaning: cancel
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>>20995596
another one bites the dust
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>>20995596
If you were serious about Japanese you'd know that loanwords ending with an /r/ sound use a 長音符
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Its been a while since I brushed up on grammar. Its also been a while since I even realized I even needed to note down unknown grammar despite not understanding what I'm reading.
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self-moderation would be 100% possible if we gave OPs the same level of control over their threads that they have over on 2chan but that'll never happen
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as long as i get to be the op
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>>20995615
>needed to note down unknown grammar despite not understanding what I'm reading.
why do so many of u post about doing this dumb shit
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>>20995393
>You could have prevented the death and obsolescence of DJT
This happened as soon as DJT was moved to /jp/. That alone cut new blood coming in from /a/, which before you get board-elitist about, means far less new learners and less people learning Japanese. Activity on this thread got cut in half, more than half. Maybe it's about 1/4th as active as it used to be if that. Anyway, instead of a huge flow of people coming in and learning Japanese, it's just a couple of /jp/ rejects. Hell, 50% of the posts in this thread are Jamal sucking his own dick. DJT is less a place for new learners nowadays and more a general thread for regulars to have fun in. Barely anyone's actually learning Japanese like they used to.
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>>20995613
Not all of them, though.
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>>20995643
u cant learn japanese in a thread maybe u should stop living in ur bubble and come to terms with the ice wall dude
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It's literally one retard responsible for turning DJT into a shitposter blog and we all know who it is.
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its fine i already know i saved a couple of lives and thats all that matters its worth it
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まあ初老と引き換えにだけどね
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jamal isnt a person jamal is a state of mind
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Why would you even want new blood?

Circlejerking with you faggots is vastly preferable to giving newbies the same advice (i.e fucking with them) day in, day out.
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the guy that wants new blood is the guy that gets off on literally perma crippling ppl

thats why im seen as his mortal enemy
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>>20995643
are u supporting having a constant influx of new kids who watched a couple episodes of hxh asking how many more months it will take them to learn their hiraganas
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>>20995615
This is an interesting phase to be in. Fight through it and you will be closer to fluency than ever.
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>>20995678
did you read his post right
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I've just noticed the Yen use the "old" numerals

i.e. 壱万円

I was bored so I was reading stuff off my bank notes, so here's a new interesting thing:

Fukuzawa Yukichi, the dude on the 壱万円 note, is written with 福沢諭吉, but his O.G. name is 福澤諭吉.

壱 is a 新字体 simplification of 壹, while 沢 is a simplification of 澤.
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>>20995696
>"old" numerals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_numerals#Formal_numbers
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>>20995696
It's called 大字. I learned about it from anime.
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'bout to pull a xiaovin cuz i just read the first and second opium war wikipedia articles cya nerds
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>>20995662
There is definitely also a person. There can't be more than one black person.
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>>20995720
Being black and wishing you were are not the same thing.
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oh have we finally entered the jamals not black meta wew lads its about time lol
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Black people are better than us

Well better than you, since I ain't no howaito piggu
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pocky >> hello panda
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whats with this wishin u were shit do i hear projection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFCW3PHBws
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>>20995713
lol he watches anime that isn't fighting shounen

what a fucking nerd
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>>20995692
>>20995634
What I'm doing is simply just inputing and going back to guides as reference for a grammar, I write down grammar just as a reminder to look through those points because I know I'll forget what I'm looking for later.
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わたしは何もbut gay
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can we stop being racist toward whites and just appreciate some good ol classic calvin?
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Can't wait to try some wagyu teppanyaki, and some delicious immoral gayniku. And oysters, tons of oysters.
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*imagining calvin listening to babymetal while doing flashcards*

lmao
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>>20995750
>file name
heh beat matt by a couple months
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watashi no pasokon wa ecchi de afureteiru
uwa- kimochi ii na mon da
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And basashi

Definitely basashi

Ahh can't wait for the trip
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>>20995750
>So, I'm short.
nice freudian slip lmao
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>>20995746
i dont understand
do u not look up what ur tryin to understand when ur tryin to understand it
or do u think that u need to look a second time out of context for some reason
have u tried just lookin shit up when ur readin and not givin a shit beyond that
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what was his deal with the GPU and arcade stick anyway why did he keep selling them when you can just pirate 100000 gbs of japanese shit and get fluent
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How often do you need to anally fist yourself while reading Japanese books for maximum retention? I've been doing it 3-5 times per sentence for about 3 months now, but the looser I get the harder it is to not shit myself when I have diarrhea.
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>>20995779
to keep himself from becoming image here >>20995060 which he became anyway
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>>20995771
you’re not gonna remember if you do that
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>>20995781
post ur gape
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>>20995779
if it was about money he wouldnt be able to sell japanese shit back to buy them again
it was about willpower cause if u havent noticed he has none
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>>20995785
have u tried it cuz i have and it works for me
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is anyone else attached to paper books. i mainly only read paper LNs and manga unless it’s エロ漫画
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>>20995797
i read a romeo light novel exclusively on the toilet once

i seem to prefer physical books on the toilet but electronic device everywhere else
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>>20995771
I dont like the idea of switching back and forth between media and guides so I'll offload studying to like one day in a week. Something like this:
>read
>find something I don't undertsand, try to understand
>if still not understood put it on a list; continue reading
>when the list is big enough hit the books
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>>20995788
here's my elongated red fistula
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>>20995805
did you accidentally flush it when you couldn't tell it apart from what came out of your ass?
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>>20995806
whats the difference between checkin a grammar guide and checkin a dic
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thats a big ass ヤガラ科
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>>20995811
but then it wouldnt be an accident
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my shitty ass vocab is really starting to bite me in the ass. guess i shouldnt have dropped anki after 1000 words in my mining deck
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>>20995816
赤矢柄

fistula ria

deep throat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHPpsMpmvQ
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静粛 my dudes and return to your compelling コンテンツ
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suck my dick faget
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>>20995822
I know that feeling. I deleted my 5000 cards self mined vocab deck and I want it back.
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>>20995814
I'd have to look through an entire guide. Of course I use crtl+f but then there's time spent reading the explanation and to be real I'd rather do all the searching later. Mouse over dictionaries take maybe just a second, and I'm being specific to how I read, but I'll read a sentence with no look ups and then reread with lookups using kanjitomo
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kougou
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words are more meaningful when u learn them this way

just stay on the path
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>>20995840
if u look at it right its the wide meaning of the word

kohgoh lmao
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>>20995824
i watched this whole vid and i realized u finally got me 2 watch 1 of this fags cooking vids so fuck u
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he can clean a good fish tho but i think thats a japanese racial skill ur born with
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All the Japanese 40-somethings I know keep inviting me to fish with them. I kinda want to go but I don't want to embarass myself, they have racial affinity to this stuff and they're all experts.
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>>20995870
trying moving out of japan since there's no reason to be there in the first place.
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wtf i wish i had some surly ossans to go fishing with
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>>20995870
stop bein such a self conscious baby and let their expertise rub off on u
ur not gonna surprise them by being shit it can only get better from here
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if theres anything i learned from shokomeza its that u should go fishing
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time to atonisuru this cursed place
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>>20995890
why dont u atonisuru ur dick idiot
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>>20995894
you gotta let down and go up. It's the way.
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this is how the djt circle of elders approaches the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8pd8yfNBxM
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>>20995888
i learned the same thing from tsuritama
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>>20995912
that was a good albeit gay anime too
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>>20995870
All you have to do is put the whale into the crosshair and pull the trigger on the harpoon launcher. It's not rocket science.
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>>20995886
You're right, of course.

>>20995877
Jealous of my 24 hours of active Japanese immersion a day without having to sleep with earphones?
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>>20995918
haha epic edge bro careful w. that there
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>>20995924
I thought it was funny
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>>20995920
You don't need earphones. Just put some speakers next to your bed and play this on infinite repeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBaazb-0c4
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>>20995920
you don't want to immerse in that culture for more than 2 hours tops that's where matt and nick fucked up
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itd be funnier if you posted it in lowercase imo
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>>20995931
thanks
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>>20995796
but you gotta do repeated lookups don’t you. it’s rare it’s gonna stick after that first time alone
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if anyone ever asks what djt is just link them this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Hh0yhvGCA
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>>20995946
u need to repeat it either way
the repetitions mean more when they are associated with unique contexts and are a means to an end of bein compelled
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official nihongo power levels by # of games on this chart played

0-2 - baby xiaovin

3-5 - beginner

6-10 - better beginner

11-15 - aspirations of jozu

16-20 - solid gamer

21-25 - scanlation crew material

26-30 - intermediate

31-35 - better intermediate

36-40 - kinda good now

41-45 - u should prolly know japanese by about here

46-50 - お上手ですね

51-55 - advanced erogamer on top of a giant boob shaped mountain

>55 - i dont really have much left for u lets reminisce about the good old days grizzled hentai gamer
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>>20995837
if you were reading regularly most of those words would’ve stuck right? i’ve studied and deleted thousands of words now but most i still remember bc reading
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>>20995971
does it only count if i beat the game
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>>20996003
if u have to ask that ur already in very big trouble
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>>20995948
this video shows the history of the banger crew from humble beginnings when one man did it for free to the modern state of djt
im hoodie guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TXT4mhhPp8&t=16
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Do I merge my Core6k deck with my mining deck now that I'm done with it? Are there any downsides to merging decks?
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>>20996012
i picture it more like this and ur all my honies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gI1HBsOp3E#t=10
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>>20996027
now thats a banger that takes me back but if i was a honey id be rockin zr
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>>20995971
What am I supposed to count the Nasu pic as?
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>>20996070
1 game is 1 game dont be a retard
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>>20995971
half of my eroge arent on this chart so i drew the short stick
thinkin about doin yu-no next though
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>>20995966
what about words with new readings or new kanji? you don’t even study those?
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>>20996100
i mean u can certainly test out if ur about 50 games deep and know how to read 義 no questions asked
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i know i'm gonna have to double my study time to make good progress but i just don't feel like it
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明日ーあした
明日ーあす
明日ーみょうにち

Whats the difference?
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>>20996124
u’ll literally never see the last two so why are u worried about it
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>>20996131
In one of my anki decks with audio files the guy says it as あす
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>>20996101
exposure is everything
surely uve learned somethin thats not in ur deck by now
do u think natives practiced 膣 in school
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>>20996116
if i ever misread 義 im quitting nihongo
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britvsjapan said it takes "about a year" until you start to truly understand stuff. is that true?
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yea its definitely true if u dont understand something now u might understand it later
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>>20996178
ur already fuckin up when ur measurin in years of study instead of number of eroge completed
speakin of studyin 膣 brit put it in his anki deck
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込む still completely floors me
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maybe youll understand it if you watch some anime
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>>20996202
just imagine it means "come on" I mean it even sounds like ko'mu(n)
like 落ち込む is like dude wtf come on cheer up
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>doing core 2k/6k deck as a side thing
>past 2000 words no more images
Great, now I feel empty
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広義
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>>20996272
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Anyone know if you can text hook
Dies irae ~Amantes amentes~ HD?
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>>20996233
damn, that's so bad.
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>>20996282
Nope, not without a hook code since there's something dodgy about the new malie engine.
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>>20996233
i dont really like this either come on man
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Word of the day.

反物質

Nice!
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word of the day
肉壺
nice !
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word of the day:
ナイス
nice!
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Is using "sono" as a counter for parts, installments, etc. a nonstandard usage or is my dictionary lying to me?

The specific sentence is: 「twitterなどのふとしたネプ落書きをまとめたやつその4。」 => "My collected twitter Nep shitscribbles #4"
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>>20996443
it's not being used as a counter here
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who was the artist with all the blue drawings named その1 and so on
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>>20996443
I've seen その壱 etc for numbering before so yeah, it's used like that. But I'm not sure what exactly is the nuance for using その.
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enkou saiko
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>>20996419
he gets it!
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>>20996443
>>20996473
>4 全体をいくつかに分けた中の、ある部分をさす。「其の一、其の二」
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E5%85%B6%E3%81%AE-554958
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how exactly did 英 come to refer to England? What's the relation?
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how about this y’all
look up a word
1. if you know the readings and the meaning seems easy to remember/logical based on the kanji, just reread it in the sentence and continue
2. if the kanji or reading is new to you, or the meaning is not intuitive, add to SRS deck
3. study that deck for two weeks then throw it away and hope you see it in context again soon enough before forgetting
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>>20996613
because it's full of legendary 英雄 like King Arthuria
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me when I see a kanji outside the joyo set and add it to my anki deck
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>>20996627
same
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>>20996613
That character is pronounced "ying" in Chinese which sounds kind of like "ENGlish", so in Chinese that character was used for that. And then Japanese took it too
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my favorite anime is pupa. what should i watch next for optimal nihongo gains?
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Note: DO NOT try to learn a 50+ kanji each day. I'm 10 days into RTK, and I was doing good for a while, but today I'm so burnt out that I can't even memorize 9 kanji today. :(
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>>20995321
never heard of Wechat eh? lulz
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I just read the first couple pages of re zero today. When I started 2 years ago my reason was to read the ln in original japanese. After reading those pages I learned that the book is written in FUCKING THIRD PERSON. Is my whole japanese learning for naught. Should I just stop, should i just kill myself? I have made such amazing progress and this is a big hit.
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>>20996759
what’s so bad about third person?
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>>20996771
its horrible. Why even read a book if it is just describing scenarios? books are for being able to experience a story from a perspective impossible in visual mediums. I hate third person so much, i gives me the feeling the writer is writing because of the lower overhead as apposed of the respect of the medium.
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>>20994819
flyable heart is tagged on vndb with "nakige," and apparently it has a twist. is it any good? or is it something that only someone brand new to the medium (like me for the most part) would enjoy.
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>>20996759
are you sure it's not just that his neetspeak is completely incomprehensible?
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>>20996801
the prologue was in first person, but the first chapter was describing his appearance and the scenario definitely third person.
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>>20996759
>>20996787
I think what you're looking for are VNs. They are almost exclusively in first person.
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>>20996759
Just drop that kiddie isekai LN trash and read epic eroge instead.
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>>20996810
not really. most of the descriptive shit tends not to be
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>>20996787
im kind of wondering if you've ever read a book in english at this point
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i just read the first chapter of dies irae today. when i started 2 years ago my reason was to read the vn in original japanese. after reading those first few scenes I learned that the book is written in FUCKING LATIN!!! Is my whole japanese learning for naught. Should I just stop, should i just kill myself? I have made such amazing progress and this is a big hit.
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>>20996816
i read assigned reading in high school and like 2 books after high school. I read mostly in japanese tho.
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i just read the first chapter of Romance of the Three Kingdoms today. when i started 2 years ago my reason was to read the book in original japanese. after reading those first few scenes I learned that the book is written in FUCKING CHINESE!!! Is my whole japanese learning for naught. Should I just stop, should i just kill myself? I have made such amazing progress and this is a big hit.
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you guys seem like pretty epic at deciding things, just downloaded some epic raws which should i watch, grand blue, inuyashiki, or re watch k-on?
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>>20996846
>learning japanese
lmao wtf bro
you should be learning traditional mandarinese
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>>20996875
i choose none
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>>20996905
well i watch at least an hour of raws or nip subs eryday so I got to watch something. what to you propose then?
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>>20996846
luckily u can just be xiaovin and be fine except apparently hes learning taiwanese mandarin which is like swiss german or w.e haha
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>>20996906
asobi asobase
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>>20996913
thanks for the req will check it out. it sometimes gets hard to find a constant supply of good anime as i drop most shows i watch. Especially when you have been watching everyday for over a year.
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>>20996913
i wanted to like that show but hten i rage quit at the pee tasting and really the show was pretty 1 dimensional before that only maybe enjoyable by those literally born yesterday
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>>20996875
k on, easy
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>>20996875
inuyashiki
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>>20996875
inuyasha
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>>20996920
>pee tasting
picked up
nah it looks too dumb
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y’all ever get random chills of happiness throughout ur body??
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>>20996947
which eroge
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>>20996945
it was really bad dude like some of the poorest taste when it comes to perverted pee shit
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>周囲の甘い声や、組み敷いた身体の感触が無視できなくなってしまって……
>……俺の意思とは関係なく、身体が反応してしまった。
>【千夏】(……相変わらずだね、甲も……)
>【甲】(本当にすまん……)
>…
>【甲】(もしかして、それが原因で怒っているのか?)
>【千夏】(関係ない……別に甲を怒ったり嫌っているわけじゃない)
>【千夏】(ただ、今の私は、もう男とか女とかどうでも、よくなっちゃったから……)

That last line there is the first time I've been a bit confused in a while. Is she saying that at this point she doesn't care about men or women? As in, she's no longer interested in loving someone?
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>>20995797
Manga isn't reading though.

>>20996875
Something good instead.

>>20996966
Just skip all scenes with chinatsu it'll make the game better.
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>>20996980
I've really enjoyed her in the story so far, and I think it's interesting how they're keeping it a mystery how she ended up this way in the present vs. how she was in the past. Makes me sad that everyone seems to shit on her route, hoping that I at least get some enjoyment out of it (if I ever reach that point this game is so long).
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>skipping scenes
kimoi
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this test fucking sucks, literally every question was either too easy or kanji i literally never seen before.
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>>20996991
lmfao how does it feel to be worse than nuke chan
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>>20996991
if you get questions right you get more difficult questions, if you get them wrong you get easier questions
it's not the test that sucks
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>>20996991
How long you been at dis dawg. I took it last august and got this score. I feel like i am infinitely better than august but i dont want to take it again until this august.

Well the test i feel is kinda bad as it has very few questions to base your score on.
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>>20997004
with a score like that u literally cant even read most of the questions on the test

how can u say u feel infinitely better while the above is true ?
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>>20997008
>ely better while the above
well that was 7 months ago and i have read like 20 books since then.
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>>20996997
yea but i feel like there was no inbetweeners, you know?
like questions kept switching from
これはペンです tier
to some fucking legal documents tier with city names and shit(only knew it was a city because of 市)
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>>20997017
hahahahaha ur actually cute af
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Which one of you was it?
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dont show xiaovin these threads
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nuke is a snitch
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>>20996131
i heard みょうにち in ghost in the shell lol
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>>20997038
why post old shit when theres a fresh update of yoga gettin in his head and karbin switchin gears again while hes gonna spend a fuckin month on bopomofo
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he made a new post btw
>I am beginning to have some second thoughts on focusing on Taiwan and Taiwanese Mandarin
fucking called it
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>>20996966
>>20996966
Anyone? I'm not sitting here stuck on this, have moved on, but I'd still like to know.
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>>20997066
i cant take this rollercoaster i want off boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDR0m0i5Thg
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>I'm starting to reconsider focusing on Taiwan and bopomofo. I know I usually say I prefer Taiwan over China, but ultimately that is due to superficial reasons and preconceived notions that I have of china. The mainland is ultimately the heart of Chinese. It would be more wise for me to focus on that more than Taiwanese Mandarin.
lol
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this guy is a living cautionary tale
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xiaovin never wanted to learn a language he just wanted to belong to something
be glad he ended up in something relatively benign instead of joining ISIS
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>>20997085
definitely dont let xiaovin see this thread
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>>20996996
well nuke chan has been trying for over a quarter of his life so his ability needs to be considered with that perspective.
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>>20996980
>Manga isn't reading though.

and words aren’t language right lol
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>>20997099
they aren't
they're only fragments of language
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ah, feels so good to be appreciated
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Is there a better/different text hooker I could try other than ITHVNR? Most vns ive tried on it, it doesnt get any text from
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ahh ゲイって気持ちいい
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did there used to be a guy on this thread who liked kill me baby or am i remembering wrong?
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>>20997106
theres a fork of ithvnr called textractor that has more built in engine support but you need to remove the dekinai extensions it comes with
either way you need hcodes for some shit help yourself there are two big lists linked in the guide on the op site that you didnt read
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>>20997101
they are both language and parts of language, like a flower is a plant and also part of a plant
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>>20997128
is a finger a person. flower is only considered a plant because people refer to plants like roses as a flower while a flower is just the blooming part before turning into seeds. brainlets my god
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>笑顔
Who's idea was it to write this whole thing vs えがお
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>>20997131
nice self own
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>>20997131
bad analogy dude. a better one would be “is a flower a plant” and the answer is yes, it is. it’s also part of a plant.
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>>20997128
would you call a twig a tree?
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>>20995596
>>20995613
I'm more curious about why they use キャ instead of just カ?
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>>20997155
cuz the former is closer to the actual english sound and the later means u end up with カルビン aka carbin aka xiaovin
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good old 軽瓶 rest in peace
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if he was 重瓶 he could have made it
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>>20997128
>a flower is a plant and also part of a plant
But a flower is not a part of a plant, it is the whole plant. It consists of parts of a plant, which by themselves are also not the plant.
If someone cut off a leaf from a rose (a leaf, not a petal) and presented it to you, you'd never call that leaf a rose, even if someone told you that it comes from a rose.
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is it "you don't even know english" time
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>>20997183
obv flower can mean the whole plant but if ur gonna be even more pedantic than that guy about the other meaning then be right
>the specialized part of an angiospermous plant that occurs singly or in clusters, possesses whorls of often colorful petals or sepals, and bears the reproductive structures (such as stamens or pistils) involved in the development of seeds and fruit : BLOSSOM
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>>20997135
Why would you write three whole characters when you could write it with just two?
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the more you open up your heart, the more enjoyment you will get out of everything
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>>20997201
because all of those strokes would take forever to write
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i honestly feel like im being massively trolled by the xiaovin shit still. like hes taking us all for a ride

its too on point every single time
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>>20997249
yea i mean like i said even if he is a gimmick hes still "pretending to be retarded" but is still actually retarded as a result

i also refuse to believe hes real
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>>20997242
I get that, but you can save a lot of space. The great thing about Japanese is how dense it is.
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japanese hate 白人
everyone hate 白人
fuck 白人
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>>20997119
Who doesn't like it?
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>>20997249
>I delved into other stuff trying to get away from Japanese. I eventually landed on the right language for me.
how can anyone say something like this seriously before learning a single word of the language
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黒人、お願いします
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ねことこねこがねころんでる
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親切ごかし
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japanese girls love 茶色い男の人(南東アジアから)
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>>20997065
>while hes gonna spend a fuckin month on bopomofo
wtf
I took me three days to learn zhuyin, by manually converting all the pinyin I wrote next to my RTH reps.
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may you all be well in your heart, mind, and body
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I wouldn't be here if my heart and mind were well.
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>>20997643
aint that right
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>>20997183
normal roses grow on bushes/trees
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眠る
寝る

huh, thats kinda neat
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why the FUCK would I mine this? Actually now that I've restarted on my mining deck I have to delete 5-6 cards per 25 new ones I learn because there is no fucking reason I should have mined them.
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>>20997643
lol i understand that sentiment. but there are still some good people here and good tips and discussions sometimes. it's not all bad
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>>20997901
What is wrong with that?
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>>20997901
i love noticing words like that where the meaning and reading are so obvious. they're like freebies
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>>20997907
Well first off because of >>20997908

And even if both the reading and meaning weren't obvious, when will I be encountering this word in any of the material I read? I probably mined it from nhk easy or some shit like 5 months ago
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>鍛冶屋や馬具屋どころか、民家の一軒も見あたらない
Does "民家の一軒" mean to convey that not even one house can be seen?
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>>20997918
yep :)
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>>20997918
そのぶんしょうかいたひとは

ごいがすくない
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>>20997929
苺好き?
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Daily reminder that 一服suru is unhealthy and probably even stuns your memorization skills a bit. Do not 一服.
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>>20997970
Can confirm, my retention was 90% consistently and now that i'm high all the time it's barely 80
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMADsgteGQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtMcOvVZtu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et7hHTT0HSQ

anyone got any more banging dnb with nip vocals like this? more on the lighter side, no hardcore shit pls
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>>20997918
そのぶんしょうがどうしておかしいのかというと

まず

>かじややばぐやどころか、いっけんのみんかもみあたらない

おかしくてもこっちじゃないと

これでもおかしいんだけど
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>>20998068
dnb triggers the 14-15 yo in me doing that autism dance
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キャンサー
>>
くっつきかたは

>かじや や ばぐや はおろか
>いっけんの みんかも みあたらない

こうくっついて

しっくりくるとおもうよ
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Please tell me a slution for when you're crashing and burning
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>>20998214
Meditation
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>>20998214
Take a step back and reevaluate. You can take a few days or a week off and think about your learning process holistically. What were your original motivations to start studying and are they still what motivates you? Where are you now compared to where you thought you'd be in terms of aptitude? What aspects of your learning approach are inhibiting you? If you reevaluate all these aspects you can come back fresh without the burden of whatever issues/expectations you previously set on yourself.
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>>20998214
drop anki, watch more anime, read more porn, play more games
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>>20998055
meditate
once you get good at it you can get high while improving concentration at the same time, 一石二鳥
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>>20997120
>but you need to remove the dekinai extensions it comes with
nah keep them. google translate is great when you're a beginner. it's helping me a lot.
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>>20998399
I'm at about the peak of what my brain can do while smoking 2-3 grams per day. Got through the entirety of my bachelors and now half my masters like this lol
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椅子
this is chair? what the fuck.
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u gotta understand japanese ppl sit on the floor chairs are kind of a big deal
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>>20998410
sounds expensive
meditation is cheaper and better for ur lungs, also no brain fog
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>>20998436
i make 3000 euros a month trading csgo skins so im not too concerned
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>>20998415
せいかくには

ソファーだよ
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>>20998415
Based 唐音
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so i wanna go into a bit more detail of what it feels like to get "high" off meditation. 耳を澄ませ

first a disclaimer, if you go into it "trying to get high" you're gonna fuck it up cause your attention will be on the desire/craving to "get high" rather than the actual concentration and awareness necessary to do so

anyway the actual practice of meditation involves concentrating on the breath, confronting whatever your mind poops out as you try to do so (theres a LOT of poop built up in there guys... years worth of constipation aka stuffed-down emotions), clearing that poop through nonjudgmental objective awareness, then returning focus to the breath. you do this over and over.

when your awareness becomes free enough of constipated mind-poop (like anxiety, boredom, distraction, random thoughts, anger, etc) you can access intense clarity and joy that legit feels better than or at LEAST as good as orgasms..... its a delightful tingling sensation you can feel spreading from the head/heart area, throughout the entire body

sometimes i just sit there soaking it in like a 10+ minute orgasm... i just did that earlier and i feel great. a sense of joy and lightness continued even after i got up.
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What does that have to do with japanese?
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>>20998498
>high
>meditation
not reading this stupid shit.
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>>20998514
and you dont have to :)
you are free to do as you choose, random human

>>20998512
someone said don't get high it'll mess up your studying
other guy said he smokes 3 grams a day and it lowered his retention on anki
i said meditate and you can feel very good without mental fog and lowered retention
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weed times over kiddos
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I watched an EP of an anime with jp subs and I fully understood 75% of dialogue and in the rest I was missing like only one word and I don't know how to deal with actually understanding shit
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its ok to just let the nihongo be and get it

its effortless u dont even have to try just be the dry sponge u want that water in u all u gotta do is get near it and it will be
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>>20998606
thats fuckin awesome dude, good job. just let yourself feel good about it and keep going
what was the anime?
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>>20998628
青の祓魔師/Blue Exorcist (2nd Season though), I'm reading the manga too so I know the weird magical words already, but it isn't too dense with those yet (the only one that ep had was the word for miasma).
I'm proud of myself :D I'll anki the sentences / words I didn't know and maybe watch it again later without subs.
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>>20998657
imagine spending all this time studying japanese in order to watch the second season of blue fucking exorcist
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>>20998606
How long have you been studying? Congrats
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Nobody learns japanese to watch anime, dweeb, because literally 100% of them are translated.
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hypothesis: there is a limit to how much you can "take in" a day. people only think reading 8 hours a day is better than reading 4 hours a day because they're smart enough to absorb all the information they take in during that 8 hours. there's a selection bias. in reality if every dekinai attempting to learn japanese started reading 8 hours a day they'd be too stupid to get more than 2 hours' worth of learning from it.
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>>20998675
That's why I'm studying it. I'm not interested in eroge, manga or VNs.
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>>20998674
Hard to tell, I stopped and paused a lot, so very inconsistent ... I learnt the basics about three years ago, but then didn't do anything for a year or so. So in total maybe about two years, but not as intense as I'm doing right now with regular anki.
I didn't take any of the JLPT, so I can't tell where I'm on that. Maybe high N4/low N3? I'm not too sure.
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>>20998662
lmao no. It's just one of my favs and what I decided to pick as the first one to watch since I'm catching on to the manga.
Better than eroge anyway.
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>>20998606
>with jp subs
without them you'd understand 25% or less
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>>20998697
I don't believe you. What's the point? That's like learning English to read Harry Potter.
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>>20998657
nice! thats a good idea. and i don't even know what miasma means in english lmao
like 4 years ago i watched that anime with english subs, trying to understand the japanese in the background and could hardly understand anything. i might try again now but raw and see how far i've come lol you inspired me to go back to it, it was a really good anime
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>>20998685
meditation can most likely increase that limit, whatever it is for anyone. less mental junk/mental noise = more mental resources for japanese
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>>20998685
Yes if you assume those hours are spent consuming material which is challenging to you. Then I'd argue its even not feasible to for 4 hours at one thing, at least not without breaking it up into 1 or 2 hour intervals.

However once your base level understanding is reasonably good you can easily do 6+ hours a day. Of course you won't learn that much, but at worst its good reinforcement.

Overall the importance of reinforcement is bigger than people seem to give it credit for. Everyone seems focused on learning new things and mining new words. I treat reading and watching stuff as the most enjoyable way to practice what I already know. Learning new things along the way is a bonus, but also way more exhausting.
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>>20998715
>What's the point?
Some of my older hobbies had run their course and I liked the idea of watching raw anime so I figure why not. Learning a language isn't some giant odyssey which requires profound motivation or dozens of practical applications. I just do it to pass the time.
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>>20998719
English isn't my mothertongue and I never looked that word up either, but it means like some kind of spores / gas that was believed to cause sicknesses.
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>>20998725
your motivations are valid. do whatever you want

>>20998724
>Overall the importance of reinforcement is bigger than people seem to give it credit for.

agreed. i strongly believe that our input in any given day should consist of materials at different levels of difficulty.

i personally try to have one anime i'm watching raw thats super easy, and one thats medium/hard difficulty that i watch with subs. same for listening -- a hardish book with lots of markings and farming, and a super easy book i can breeze through. that kind of alternation seems to mix things up, eliminate burnout and provide lots of reinforcement.
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>>20998711
Well, maybe. But everyone's got to start somewhere. And I'd rather do things I like with an aid instead of sitting over something boring which is closer to my level.
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>last night, too busy with the happening to watch anime
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>>20998685
It's not a limit, it's diminishing returns. And the useful amount of input increases the longer you've been at it. If you've been reading and listening to significant amounts of Japanese every single day for two years, then every hour you spend on Japanese counts, unless you start depriving yourself of sleep to add more hours of Japanese (don't do this). On the other hand, if you're a literal absolute beginner who barely recognizes the kana and maybe knows like twenty words, then 30 minutes of reading will probably push them beyond their limit, and nothing they do for the next several hours will stick.
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This was better than dolly tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dunBnCI1iP0
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>47:21
Too long.
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>>20998966
at least her makeup is slightly less caked on than in those god awful videos posted a few weeks ago where her face looked shiny and manufactured as fuck.
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shes still greasier than delivery pizza
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>>20998076
お前ってまともに答えた時はそうやって嘘ばっかだし、それ以外でもやっぱり嘘か大袈裟か紛らわしい発言ばかりで、毎回頭を抱えさせられるんだけど、アホな子のロールプレイならちゃんと周知させた方がいいよ。たまに信じてる人がいるじゃないか。
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落ち着けよにいちゃん
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>>20998999
Implying you wouldnt want to lick that grease from her face while you fondle her puffy hairy manko.
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>>20999089
stfu bitch
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>>20999108
that fucks ur issue no i dont have any inclination to do any of that
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心のざわつき:

よく注意して、落ち着きを保っている人は、怒りによって、行いが、言葉が、思いが「ざわつく」ことを、よく防いでいる。

かくして、心の自由をよく保っている。
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Merge my decks yes or no
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>>20999275
ううううん
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>>20999275
What decks do you have rn?
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>>20999292
A completed Core6k deck, my mining deck and the tobira kanji + vocab decks
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>>20999294
Yeah, merge. As long as you can see what is a kanji card and what a vocab card, is that like marked or something? Maybe add a [k] or something to the kanji cards in the front field or smth.
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in anki 2.1 you can just drag and drop your decks onto one another to create subdecks and anki will randomly present cards to you from all the decks, at least if you just click on the top/parent deck.
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>>20999304
>will randomly present cards to you from all the decks
when reviewing
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>>20999308
>>20999304
So how does it handle new cards? Is that random too?
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>>20999314
dunno. not something i'm worried about since none of that matters.
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>>20999330
Not in the long run sure, but I'm thinking I'd prefer to have the tobira cards show up first since I'm more likely to come across them when I'm reading the book
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>>20999337
leaning towards only merging my mining deck and core while doing the rest seperately
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>>20996966
Somebody at least call me a retard or something, how the fuck am I gonna feed my family without (you)s?
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i don't know japanese so i didn't even bother trying to read your post. be glad i never responded. what am i even doing here?
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>>20996966
yes
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I fucking hate my brain. I saw the word 食物連鎖 ONCE one year ago and I still remember it but when I'm trying to learn simple words with anki they don't fucking stick in my brain
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i thought that was 2 words and i just read them cuz i know them lol
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todays nihongo word of the day is kohgoo

lmao
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Ya ever listen to any podcasts or media with actual unscripted conversations between japanese people?
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oh of course i watch terrace house
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whats the equivalent of "hows it going", "whats up" seems like Japanese doesnt have something like that.
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調子どう motha fucka
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>>20999616
Thanks.
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>>20999722
ご機嫌よう
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>>20999711
i watch terrace house and anime so nope.
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>>20999716
that looks kind of corny, but interesting
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>>20999722
お元気ですか?
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>>20999722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIXMf7UxcJk#t=525
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>>20997290
Did he ever even read anything in japanese?

>>20998657
>I'm reading the manga too
No you're not. Manga isn't reading.
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u should stop that it was good when u werent doing that

look just like magazines or the sports page manga is not reading

but u still read all 3 of those things so ur gonna have to just accept that they are things to read
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picked up anki after 2 months and i keep remembering readings but blanking on meanings of cards. this is stuff i mined myself and i've never had this issue before. wtf
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>>20999793
talking about new words, not my review backlog
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>>20999782
I think you're confusing manga with the picture books your mommy gives you.
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Why the fuck does this language have so many words for truth/reality?
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>>20999803
... maybe to prevent you from questioning it? Where's my tinfoil hat?
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>>20999722
お元気かい?
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>>20999722
imagine thinking a language doesn't have a casual greeting
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yah i mean what kinda idiot hasnt ever heard yahho before lol
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>>20998685
>because they're smart enough to
iq poster please leave
>>20998697
this is even more not gonna make it than karbin
>>20999919
as for me its ohha
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>>20999914
Now that I think about it, my native language (Persian) doesn't
We just use the regular hello world in every situation
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>>20999968
...then hello is your casual greeting, genius
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>>20999974
silly you, Iranians do not have casual greetings, they just scream and fuck sheep.
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>>21000000
Nice digits.
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>>21000000
wasted
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>>21000000
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皆調子どう?
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>>21000000
iran btfo
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>>20999974
But then what is our formal greeting?
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>>20999711
i usually listen to hiikibiiki as background noise
and i'm an idolfag so i listen to a lot of radio talk shows for more active listening
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>>21000000
make sure to support japanese nationalism if you want to roll like me.
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>>21000056
whatever greeting you use in a formal setting. your version of hello can be both a formal and casual greeting if it's used in both contexts
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sound the alarms its banger time how long have you been "studying" and how much of this can u "understand" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtxtSFO6br8
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>>21000078
first dude's part was pretty neat, the rest of this song sucks ass
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>>21000078
i understood 0% cuz i didnt click lol
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What's a good book that teaches you the stroke order for every 常用漢字 without telling stories and treating you like a retard (looking at you, RTK)?
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>>21000093
jisho
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>>21000093
the basic kanji book vol.1 & 2 cover a lot of kanji
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>>21000087
i agree ur in the clear
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>>21000103
Thanks. Looks like it's just what I needed.
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>>20998214
learn bopomofo
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>>21000078
I refuse to believe that a native Japanese person can understand what this dude's saying without looking at the lyrics
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>>21000093
be a true nihonjin and read eat manga and watch anime until you are about a 10 yo level then read lns and vns until you are at a 18 yo level then move to japan and work a soul sucking job until you kill yourself.
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>>21000078
ur not quite ready for me to pass the torch just yet but im flattered by the fresh bose
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>>21000162
i dont want the torch im just spreadin the bose in the classic fashion
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>>21000187
i warn you, being jamal ages you immensely, that is why he is looking for a person to take on his legacy despite only being in his 40s.
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america's next top jamal
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i audition
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>>21000196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVLhl6BgrjA
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what is the best vn of all time frens? looking for something good; difficulty does not matter as I have been at it for a while, but i would prefer to be fairly comfy.
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>>21000253
hanahira
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>>21000253
oreimo
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>>21000253
Muramasa
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is that jamal's vn chart really trustworthy or is it just a joke with many hard stuff?
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>>21000330
trustworthy
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it's not that hard but yeah bro
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>>21000330
im not very deep into my eroge ventures but its the best chart ive seen
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>>21000338
>>21000353
thx anons
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>>21000330
Literally the best chart ive ever seen. He talks big shit but he knows what's up.
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So is the /jp/ anon guide, the true guide?
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>>21000442
>learn basic grammar and then start reading
Very lukewarm imo this pic isnt meme heavy enough
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We need more shootings. It's slowing djt spam. We can actually have conversations
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no u cant cuz ur all bad at posting
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btw thx 4 the kind words all re hentai chart i hope u can find a great hentai game that changes ur life on it
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would persona 3 or 4 be too difficult for an n4 dekinai like me?
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>>21000093
why would you even attempt to do this without rtk. just do the stories method faggot stop trying to take shortcuts that don't work.
to learn stroke order:
>do rtk
>while doing rtk put everything into jisho.org with the #kanji function and after a few hundred you will be able to write pretty much anything with correct stroke order
learning proper stroke order is a drop in the bucket
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>>21000507
just play 1 of them if u wanna play it to play and not to be critical of japanese text
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>>21000488
it's more likely that a shooting in nz is to blame as opposed to it being friday night?
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>>21000507
the schoolshit is quite easy
just ignore what igor says
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>>21000507
P4 was just right for me when I played it at N2 level last year, I don't think I could have done it when I was N4.
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>>21000513
>Friday night
>4chan
>usual demographic
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>>20999711
i used to listen to this show, GUGU MANGA FRONTIA. they discuss manga, its pretty fun. i might get back into listening to it again now that i remembered it exists lol
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/podcast/id592396593
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Where do y'all find vns when it is not on nyaa? looking for subarashiki hibi
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hentaigames.com
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>>21000550
Are you sure it's not on nyaa?
Are you searching for the japanese title on sukebei.nyaa.si?
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there's like 4 different uploads of subahibi with active seeders on nyaa
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>>21000570
The one i see is in english. sorry if I am being stupid
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>>21000550
animebytes ',:^3c
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>>21000575
hope you are a cute girl otherwise all this handholding will feel awkward
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/?f=0&c=1_3&q=%E7%B4%A0%E6%99%B4%E3%82%89%E3%81%97%E3%81%8D
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trying to install hanahira and got this wtf
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>>21000586
need to set unicode regional settings to japanese.
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>>21000586
he doesn't know how to install a VN
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Is anyone else here an alcoholic? Is it better to try to do my reps and read while drunk or try to catch up while hungover?
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>>21000591
Thanks anon.

>>21000628
I only ever played 沙耶の唄 until now
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>>21000638
I don't know about alcohol, but I rep better while wearing my sister clothes.
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>>21000093
>What's a good book that makes it harder to learn the stroke order...
stopped reading there
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>>21000653
That's interesting anon, I'll keep that in mind.
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>>21000156
But who took the photo?
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>>21000653
you should invest in a pair of language acquisition socks, it significantly improves your comprehension
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>>21000639
>沙耶の唄
so many years later and I could still use some therapy for the mental scars my young self suffered because of this
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>>21000713
that was the first real VN i was ever exposed to lol, good times
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>>21000713
that shit was wholesome heres some scars for u
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>>20998960
this is the only good post in this entire thread.
which speaks volumes about the deteriorating quality of djt threads
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>>21000832
you should thank me for baiting these kinds of posts out of people to help the beginners who don't believe in themselves
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>>20997017
>yea but i feel like there was no inbetweeners, you know?
There's no in betweeners in language, you either know something or you don't.
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difference between 昨年 and
去年? waah
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>>21000841
if ur here instead of playing japanese videogames cuz u have mad 探求心 then ur already a xiaovin waiting to be born
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>>21000868
also 2 supplement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dFQ5OxV72M#t=32
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i'm afraid i'm xiaovin 2.0 and i will demonstrate this within one of the next few threads
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karbin already is karbin 2.0 and the rest of the unreleased product line
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>>21000639
you know you're about to read the most boring shit ever? it's not even ironically fun. surely, there's something that won't leave you sleeping while still being easy.
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Day 5 - This Is Gonna Be More Difficult Than I Thought
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>>21000948
boring shit will burn you out and make you stop reading but when someones lookin for easy shit instead of compelling shit your warnings prob wont reach them
only after theyve made the decision on their own to read a compelling eroge will they learn
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>>21000849
same meaning. 昨年 is more formal and used in writing. people on TV would use 昨年.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiaVr9h8Uvw
tottemo kawaii DESU
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>>21000586
Just imagine how many dekinais failed because of filters like this laid out by the nihonjin to bougaisuru the gaijin where possible
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get this fucking addon for your anki it will change your life. ANKI SPEED FOCUS MODE https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1046608507
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I know djt will prevail but this is really satsubatsu if you think about it
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>>21001029
i used a similar addon for 2.0 but couldn't find one for 2.1 when i moved to it. then i realized i could roughly tell when 3-5 seconds pass without using an extension so they're pointless.
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>>21001049
i dont see any reason to move to 2.1 it seems like it just makes a lot of stuff not work

but yeah having to think about how much time is passing is different than it happening automatically, there isn't really that same racing against the clock feeling. for example like the kanji game on kotobaweb if you've ever played it. its a lot less fun/addictive with no time limit set
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lolling at the idea of someone writing romaji text in elaborate cursive
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if you're a girl you don't belong here. get out.
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if you're a girl please come to brasil baby please i treat you so right i give you kiss
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>>21000998
I'm feeling things
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>>21000638
while drunk
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征く
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So... it comes to this.
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入口より、中のほうが高くなっている
I didn't know this meant "the inside is higher than the entrance" until I threw it into google translate.
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>>21001109
i recommend getting them all out of the way within the next 2 minutes. if you take 3 months to get through them then that's just too much wasted time.
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>>21001109
just remember the point of doing reps is doing them not to "get them done"
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>>21001110
That's like a textbook sentence.
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>>21000998
pomf
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>>21001108
制覇する
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>>21001134
What through me off was 中のほう because it's the first time I've encountered it. Now I realize it just referred to the "side" of the "in" but I had forgotten that ほう can mean that.
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>>21001147
nice
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>>21000948
that is why you start with yotsubato and other easy manga then go straight to mid tier eroge.
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>>21001152
thanks, just recently learned it :)
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>>21001150
It's just the <X>より<Y>のほうが<adjective> set phrase.
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>>21001168
No idea what that is. Been like 3 months since I read tae kim though.
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i finally made my anki just the way i like it and im fuckin stoked
- found out how to bulk-import words from my phone's dictionary app in like 5 minutes
- downloaded addon that auto-inserts sanseido definitions
- downloaded speed race focus mode add-on that auto-fails me if i don't pass the card in 10 seconds, greatly increasing review and learning efficiency

smooth sailing from here guys
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>>21001174
It's time to re-read it, that's basic of the basics.
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how do I not mix up 糧 and 糠
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>>21001150
if you read more you'll get used to that usage of の方 soon. its everywhere
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>>21001188
they're not the same kanji and don't look similar
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>>21001189
Problem is I've been reading a good bit and this might be the first time I've seen the construction.
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This guy is just roleplaying
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I think I'll just hand write these two kanjis a hundred times. I feel this might help.
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how do I not mix up 人 and 鬱
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>>21001217
I'm not. It might be that I've encountered it a bunch but I was able to figure it out in the moment and didn't get tripped up until this time for some reason. Unless you meant the kanji guy.
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>>21001181
all you need to do now is delete anki. I remember when i used to use anki and do all these weird things, after quitting june last year i was so euphoric and am still super happy with reading and watching epic nipponese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52gvscii7nk
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>>21001224
it won't
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>>21001233
Do you constantly look up every word when reading tho? Like if someone were to use the reading method and not use anki at all. How could you possibly remember what kanji is what, when you see a couple hundred before seeing the same one again in such a short time
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>>21001225
the one on the right is wolverine with a shovel in a forest with a tin can that makes you sad or something
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>>21001245
I read for like an hour today and looked up like 4 words. I was reading 素晴らしき日々 dont know if that is considered hard but i find it quite easy.
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>>21001233
anki is definitely not necessary but i still think it's a good tool for "perfecting" your skills with less common words
the most important thing is that you keep reading
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>>21001233
lmao weird things
honestly im really enjoying it right now because the balance i have between reading/listening is great. 3 hours of reading and listening to every 20 minutes of anki.

and nowadays literally every time i read or watch anime for >10 minutes, i encounter a word i recently learned via anki. feels great

so as long as it keeps paying off ima keep doing it. ill likely take a break from it when i stop seeing real life gains
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>>21001261
I view anki like cigarettes, there are useful aspects of it like how with smoking you get breaks and get to make friends while smoking, but it gives you cancer. anki is similar in how it can introduce structure and goals to a person who is not very motivated or interested in japanese, but the mentalities it gets you in and the time it wastes means that i can not think of it as anything but harmful for japanese.

Honestly I never felt like anki was helpful at all back when i used it, like i would see a word a lot in anki but i would associate it with the deck as you are aware of intervals and what cards are in your deck so when i saw the word naturally i would not remember it, plus i just simply was miserable using anki. I would put off everything for hours every day because i needed to do anki first thing and it would waste and ruin so much time.
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>I view anki like cigarettes
Stopped reading right there lol
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>>21001347
literally same
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anki aint all bad if u dont overdose but the people who most highly praise it are people like >>21001245 who have not yet discovered that their brain is capable of learning through natural exposure
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>>21001307
sounds like you just got obsessive and didn't know how to balance it adequately with input. thats not really a problem with the tool but your mentality around it. all anki is supposed to do is tag new bits of information (words, grammar structures) between exposures until they're healthy enough to survive on their own.

my process is input --> anki --> back to more input (which i can then get through more of faster because i know more). it all reinforces eachother.

i don't use premade decks and haven't since i began. comparing anki to cigs is like calling water poison because you can die if you drink 10 gallons at once. well, yeah.. but in moderation its great for you.
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>承る
Hm. Don't like that.
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>>21001382
well i am better than you so suck my cock.
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reminder to occasionally check translation you can find online for manga you're reading as a good motivator as to why you should learn japanese and to have a few good laughs
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ankis fine if u know japanese

if u dont its not
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>>21001387
司る
奉る
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>>21001390
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おくびにも出さない
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how to use anki: do it when you feel like doing it and want to take a break from reading

how not to use anki: slogging through hundreds of core 10k reviews every day
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>>21001421
if you want to take a break from reading you don't actually want to learn japanese.

>>21001412
opening wide in preparation i see.
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>>21001428
>if you don't want to do the same thing all day you don't actually want to learn japanese
what are you doing here shouldn't you be reading
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>>21001436
i don't take breaks, i just call it a day then watch some anime, Living your life to learn japanese is pretty pathetic.
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>>21001446
i don't know what your point is anymore
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>>21001436
i dont want to take a break from reading either but im here for the same reason that other anon smokes



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