This thread is for the discussion of Nogizaka46, Keyakizaka46, Yoshimotozaka46 and topics relating to them and the members.>News(02/07-17) Zambi~Theater's end (Ito Riria, Ishimori Nijika, Ushio Sarina, Sakaguchi Tamami, Oda Nana, Matsuda Konoka, Iwamoto Renka, Watanabe Rika & Sasaki Kumi) at The Galaxy Theater(02/21-24) Nogizaka46 7th Anniversary LIVE at Kyocera Dome Osaka(02/26) Takayama Kazumi 2nd Photobook (Monologue)(02/27) Keyakizaka46 8th Single (Kuroi Hitsuji) Hirate Yurina center(02/27) Magia Record Magical Girl Madoka Magica Gaiden Stage Play BD/DVD release(03/13) Kobayashi Yui 1st Photobook (Title TBA)(03/23) LAGUNA MUSIC FES.2019 (Hiragana Keyakizaka46)(04/10) Watanabe Risa 1st Photobook (Title TBA)(05/31) Zambi Stage Play BD/DVD release(TBA) Nogizaka46 Zambi Movie>LinksUpcoming Sakamichi TV appearances: https://pastebin.com/c8tMgEmhSakamichi Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17eKIpPGgBA1YUV5bI3yyKyQYcW9hqM9iLaFZcZP3mLA48/46 Group Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1HFVF5iQBgvjDrPnmwfbq0Iz6VvaOmDep0C2x8yoMoSakamichi H/S: http://ameblo.jp/seto-kasumiLODs and Live Shows: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnKp_AEeGUNTNePfY3C3AO4veiVi7frza82lRo44ejQNogizaka46 blogs: http://blog.nogizaka46.com/Keyakizaka46 blogs: http://blog.keyakizaka46.comYoshimotozaka46: http://yoshimotozaka46.comSakamichi on Showroom:https://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/nogizaka46_srhttps://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/keyakizaka46_srPrevious Thread: >>20792226
>>20804157Now THAT'S a good fucking OP.
>>20804181A good OP was long-overdue.
Manamo a slut
>>20804217Imagine not whoring yourself up when you're surrounded by too many cuties.
Manamo a cat
Thread is now fixedNo need to thank me
>>20804272Stop replying to yourself
>>20804244The greatest Ikuchan =)
>>20804244It really improved this place
Nothing but ban evading spammers, shitposters and samefagging. Name a worse general, you can’t.
>>20804354Who took the pic?
>>20804354I want Manamo to help me study for my tests!
I want more Bingo series with the new girls and actually make it fun this time.Do you think they'll stop Keyabingo and just reboot it as Hirabingo?
>>20804386How will can ya focus on studying with a raging, blood-filled boner?
>>20804390You just linked to NSFW stuff.... do you not see the irony? or did you just want to point out the pics that YOU posted?
>>20804439Right because that was the point. Not the fact that someone is in this general deleting NSFW posts but leaving the ban evaders to post freely.
>>20804450What ban-evaders? How do you even know if people are banned or not?
>>20804450Still bragging you got away with it?
>>20804335Yummy pair of Ganas
>>20804456If they don't concur with him they must be because of reasons
>people are now defending showderpGreat.
>>20804497Did you mean to quote >>20804494?
>>20804500>all that rubbingeroi...
>>20804509Now this is what Kanji should've been.
>>20804507For some reason this gives me a raging boner.
Fellas, I must say... I really love Reno-chan. What a cutie she is, so underrated!
>>20804507My nuts are empty now, thank you.
>>20804678Ah, I See You're a Man of Culture As Well
Hori will be the center of 23 single
>>20804272Why was this deleted
>>20804244real idols surely trigger in here
>>20804881why was what deleted?
>/saka/ shitposters try hard to make an /asp/ environment>doesn't try to make an undercarder copypasta beyond that Zuumin oneShower. Weights. Clue.
I love you Anon
>>20805099Thanks. I really needed to hear that today.
>>20805115Low tier Nogi equal to Neru confirmed.
Erika can get all but she can not get me
>>20805115I recently rewatched doko and chuu and I started to find Kawago really attractive.
Excited for keyakakke for the first time in a long time.
What is this, anon
>>20805231dafuq is this
>>20805148>Every 2nd gen girl is seen taking a selfie with HonoIf that’s ain’t an indication.
>>20805698Yeah, we've known that she is a member for a while now, genius.
>>20805548I want to fuck Ringo while Maiyan is watching
erika ikuTa TiTTies
>>20805736Dont talk this shit to her
>>20805717I want to f*ck you while they are watching.
I don't know what Ikuta's parents think about her photobook?
Gana emergency SR tomorrow. They'll probably show the MV and announce something (unlikely to be debut single as they haven't released keya 8th yet).https://twitter.com/SHOWROOM_jp/status/1094551687493087232
>>20805826What makes you think they are uneducated people who can't appreciate fine art?
>>20805831>emergency SR35chan did make it in!
>>20805834No, I dont think they are uneducated.
>>20805831>emergency SRKage coming back!
>>20805831Return of Neru.
Kageyama is starting to get cute.
>>20806111Go jerk off, come back and share if you still feel the same.
>>20806111She's always been
>>20806101This video has 62.7 k likes on Twitter
>>20806145I cringed the first time I watched it, but then I watched it 10 more times
>>20806153Kumi's always been a major cutie
>>20806153>2019 - 3
I hope Nogi will do a bikini mv
>>20806174Only if there micro
Short hair needs to be banned.
>>20806192Excuse me, I dont understand
>>20806174They need to drop their pretense of being "pure" first.
>>20806196That's okay, sea friendo
>>20806273I miss her
>>20806273>>20806282I just realized this is the first time I remembered Yone is gone since she left. I don't even remember when she left. I used to like her too, but it's like she never even existed... Which reminds me, what happened to that Aoi girl?
>>20806282I really miss her smile
>>20806299>I don't even remember when she leftI can't blame you, she did her farewell on Keyaki, only to still perform on a few lives afterwardsAoi is still studying
>>20806314I miss her everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXaMiSaZpwtell me whotell me who little red riding hood-chan isand post a powerful pic about herthe black one tooand the maido
>>20806382So beautiful Asuka.
I want a Mayu PB.
What went wrong?
>>20806585Literally everything and then some.
>>20804985woah, marry me
>>20806299Same, had that exact feeling. I guess I always anticipated her leaving, so it never really hit when she finally did.
>>20806153Jesus I love her but Iguchi's lazy eye is ridiculous.
I should be enjoying this episode but for whatever reason I'm not.
>>20806661probably because you don't understand what they are saying
>>20806674How did you know?
>>20806678because neither do I
oh found some old webm
>>20806719I don't knwo why the scene, this is just a normal face massage item, any girl could have
>>20806674No, I realised soon after that's it's because it's a clip show episode
where to watch the show?
>>20806744live ? do you understand japanese?
>>20806744youtubeok.ru from link in the OPor http://poooo.ml/0929quality varies based on the week
>>20806741It was a Nogi quiz episode. Nogi fans were asked to submit quiz questions to the show for Nogi members to answer. Part two is next week.
>keyakizaka ichiban sukiI don't believe this for a minute. All of them wanted to get into Nogi.
>>20806802Kayaki is more popular among teen girls.
The should list these girls' heights
Hono so cute.
HONO BEST GIRL IS HERE
>>2080682417 or 18 when the group started
>>20806844You win this round
>>20806850Everyone wins when Neru is posted
Poor Hono looked genuinely worried
Karin next week!!!! AHAHG!!! NOOOOOOO!!
A 14 member welcoming group? Stay classy, Kanji.
Hikaru next week and they make her stand next to Habu!
>>20806866At least 2 Rika oshis and Rika isn't there.
That was another good episode
>>20806753Sadly next week
what's happening in this thread right now exactly
Will Hinano always wear a different uniform to all the other members. She really is Neru.
I have no idea what is going on in Hiraoshi this week.
Where do all the keyaki posters go the rest of the week?
Why they put Hinano next to Manamo? She will corrupt Hinano's purity
>>20806961I'm here 18/7
I don't know anything about kinnikuman.
This is great, Imagine having a room full of cute idols indulge you in your interests and fulfilling requests. Lucky man Kasuga
That was the most boring episode of ganaoshi I've seen but at least keyakakke was good this week.
>>20807006Bizarro world innit
Rika's probably glad to have missed this episode. She would have probably been the one to get spiked in the face instead had she turned up.
Wish the 1080p of this ep was subbed then I wouldn't be using that indo group's video
>>20807006Well it was like an ametalk episode about a subject you're not interested in. Still enjoyed it though because the girls were genki as always
Ganas got hiraoshi and kinnikuman trending on twitter.
>>20807044>>20807058I love her
Gana debut announcement tomorrow. I can feel it.
>>20807077Don't play with my feelings
She was planning to hit Naako from the beginning
>>20807077Doesn't make sense when they have just started promoting the 8th single as part of it.I think it might be a birthday live or some other concert (that will then have the announcement there).
>>20807172That makes way too much sense, I hate it.
>>20807075Konoka's a blessing from the universe just like the other members
I fucking love kanji 2nd gen.
>>20807228They seem like really great girls. And unsurprisingly they're cuter in motion too
>>20805573Is this, dare I say, the best gen ever?
I want to lick Sugai's __toes__
>>20807228They seem nice
>>20807332Only time will tell.
>>20807228I really like Yui
>>20805573They all have nice legs
>>20807305No she's mine
>>20807565>join very popular group>first appearance on their TV show>smack your senpai that's popular with the fans in the face with a volleyballI probably would have passed out
>>20807565some girls just live to fail
>>20807580No, it was just Naako
>>20807604Naako is one of the fastest HS sellers in all of Keyaki. The wota love her
>>20807580Good job she's cute or it would have been over.
>>20807565>>20807607My sides. I spilled my orange juice all over my monitor.
>>20804985Those toenails though
>>20807659You see a picture of a beautiful woman and you focus on her toenails?
>>20807661It's his personalized gimmick, what did you expect?
PBs people really need to buy right now and upload to A!O:1. Sayunyan's PB2. Berika's PB
>>20807673I think it's called a fetish
>>20807685You can have a fetish without signing your posts
Suppin Hori still cute af.
>>20807695what's the point of revealing you're suppin if you're gonna use filters
Stupid sexy Hori.
>>20807771Finally a good looking webm
Why is Hori so smug?
SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED??!?
>>20807851It's clearly a wig and/or it was shot long ago. Her hair was still black and shorter on the last SOL and I doubt they could produce an entire thing between now and then
>>20807859korea has nothing as sexy as habu
>>20807859It's funny when you realize the girls that look like giants aren't even 170cm tall. The small girls are fucking tiny.
pls help >>20806359
>>20808049They are tall
>>20808063You know that we know that you know who they are.
>>20806359>>20808063Left to right - Shiraishi Mai, Hashimoto Nanami, Ikoma Rina, Ikuta Erika
The ill intentioned fake photo made of Ikuta makes me think Bunshun is just going to extort Sony forever with deepfakes when that tech gets more developed.
>>20806359fuck nogi used to be so good
>>20808225And now they are great
Yoda is superior to all the first gens
Gana>Kanji there's nothing you can do to prove me wrong
>>20808333A group that's been going strong for years>FOTM
>>20808338>FOTMHow many months has it been now?
i was looking for the full music video of kimi no na wa, but all ive found was this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HcLxPV79Tcis this the actualy pv?? because i've seen shots of them in what looks like a pv here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke8qIqzDShkat 1:57, 2:02, and 2:05and they look like its from a real music video.
>>20808472There are 2 versions of the Your Name is Hope MV.Version 1, around 23 minutes long - Nogi practicing one of their old stageplays in the dance practice roomVersion 2 (Dance & Lip), around 5 minutes long - Nogi in uniforms in the lobby of a concert hall, with light shining on them in solo shots showing how pale and white they are
>>20808482do you know where i can find version 2? Its not on youtube, and I couldn't find it on dailymotion. maybe one of the chinese sites?
>>20808077>>20808131fantastic. thanks, will fap later
>gana oshi got droppedTheir one and only show has no subbers now. Is this the end of hiragana?
>>20808496watch out not to pass out. Oshis are not supposed for that. Oshis are supposed for improving yourself relentessly trying to conquer her heart
>>20808622It got dropped because someone else started subbing it at a slightly faster pace. It's a bit of a dick move to compete with other subbers but as long as it gets subbed who cares.
>>20808622It was getting subbed way faster and in actual readable English by someone else.The other guy only started doing it because they dropped it before anyway.
>>20808622theres another guy who was subbing it toopretty sure they came to an agreement since desubs have a fuckton of keyaki shows to do
>>20808484I've wanted to see that too but I guess nobody has uploaded it
>>20808820I'm usually in favor of short hair but long hair suited her much better
sayunyan graduation oncoming
>>20808945Don't joke about that.
>>20808727>>20808742I miss mona
>>20808943>he doesn't get it
>>20809061Ok this is epic
>>20808945my money is on reika for the next big graduation
Hiyotan is extremly brown and it's glorious.
>>20809289I love Hiyotan
>>20809327The only acceptable stance.
>>20809327>>20809289Almost a replacement for Harada.
>>20809337the upgrade version of haradaI even think making a webm of hiyotan
I think things about Hiyotan that I shouldn't think
>Aoi has almost been gone for a year
>>20809381Hiyotan is pure!
>>20809370My brown sugar princess.
>>20809384Is this two indirect kisses?
>>20809403She's dead and in hell.
>>20808622Honestly I don't mind since there's the other dude subbing the show. Haven't been able to see his subs on one of the episodes yet but should be able to soon. Is it really better than DPS?
>>20809412>>20809425What episode was this? I wanna re-watch it again.
Hori Miona pink nipples
>>20806359Two of them are gone now ;_;
>>20808785What other shows?
>>20809528Where's the original video from?
>>20809580my gf in the back
>>20809507Momo-chan is so cute!
>>20809412She's the best
>>20809468The other person is working alone and is faster in subbing the show. Go to his site, he already finished until ep 41
>>20809645Don't usually do it to Maiyan but this might make me start
>>20809672when she smiles it's so fucking cute
>>20809683Her laugh is the best, the low pitch fufufu
>>20807565Highlight of the week
Hiragana stream with an announcement in about 3 hours
Hiyotan is an absolute treasure. To think she barely made it in, thank God they dropped the girls with bfs despite their audition ranking.
Kuroi Hitsuji choreography leak
>>20809711What happened to her? I'm not familiar with her backstory.
>>20809715you just know she would be wild between the sheets
>>20809720Not much. She was like ~12 in the SR ranking so it's a miracle she got in. Two girls (6 and 17 iirc) ranked in the top 10 but didn't make it into the group, probably because during the SR streams their twitters leaked with pictures of them with their BFs.
>>20808484Download the Nogi All MV Collection Blu-ray on A!O, that has both of them.
This newspaper seems run out of money so they try to create some bullshit news
>>20809746here have another
>>20809755The Nogi discussion we've all been waiting for
reminder that your girl will NOT spend valentine's day with you
>>20809755Inapooh is fucking Ikuchan too? Even Tegoshi could only seal the deal with an Unders like Kanarin.
>>20809759I've been looking for this forever
>>20809777go back to your dead thread
>>20809715I love her
Go back to sleep please.
>>20809702So curious about this
>>20809412Cracks me up every time
>>20809645it's from the netflix serie?
>>20807797The future is bright
One of you keyafriends should write up a webm tutorial so we Nogibros can join you in making quality webms too and spend less time shitposting.
>>20809958You're being redundant, but I'll allow it.
>>20809949the easy/dumb way
>>20809951Best nogi, best sailor senshi
>>20809994Reading comprehension innit
>>20810011Why call her mommy?
If I was Ikuchan, I'll sue this newspaper
>>20810099>>20810100>>20810104dam she is so cute
>>20810078I love Maaaaaya.
>>20809994>how 2 maek gud webum?>just b lazy/dumb>10q
>>20810078Is it weird if I think she's hot?
>>20810130oh you weirdo
>>20810078Nice extra frames at the end retard
>>20810095I really want that to be Ikuchan's ass because IDGAF about the love ban and love nekkid idols but I have my doubts.
>>20810095Why is our Nogi-related discussion always so pathetic?
>>20810148Apparently this Kyuudere guy got obsessed with Ikuta's PB to the point that he got permabanned for shitposting and now spends the day dumping random lewds from his phone and denying fake rumors nobody even bothered to look into in the first place
>>20810155still waiting for her to face Miho on a street basketball challenge
>>20810201Teen girl really likes an entertainer and copies some aspect of that entertainers style. Not that strange an occurrence.
Shit is going down
>>20810261>live streaming a press eventnani
>>20810261I'm not watching that.
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING!
>>20810261WTH is Katoshi doing in that still shot?
hiragana debut with a special guestthe special gest is Techi center
Our girls fucking did it
>>20810302These are the only real big ones in Nogizaka. Everyone else is tricks and lies.
>>20810321Even Mukai and Higuchi?
>>20810302Tits alone will not make a girl attractive. One of the least important features tb h.
>>20810261Nao is the only 2nd gen present. It's a sign.
>>20804157>(03/27) Hiragana Keyakizaka46 1st Single (Title TBA) >(03/05-06) Hiragana Keyakizaka46 Debut Countdown Live at Yokohama ArenaSingle will be a tie in with Mechakari.Hiragana are also getting their own site, twitter and fanclub.Happy Independence Day.
>>20810363It was pretty obvious that she was going to be the first to be pushed, was it not?
Flash in the pan Hiragana can only manage 85k viewers for their emergency announcement.
HINATAZAKA46GET FUCKED KANJI
Finally our girls break free.
Well, this is interesting.
>>20804157>(03/27) Hinatazaka46 1st Single (Title TBA) >(03/05-06) Hinatazaka46 1st Debut Countdown Live at Yokohama ArenaHAPPY FUCKING INDEPENDENCE DAY
The era begins
>>20810401What is it?
Hinata Oshi is the best variety show
>>20810408Hiragana are now a fully independent group under the name of Hinatazaka46.
Good for them.
>>20810410It would be amazing if they get a new, better timeslot as well
So what's Hinatazaka for those of us not watching the stream? Is this a thing now?
>>20810412Sweeeeet. I wonder how Neru feels.
>>20810416Hiragana independent from Keyakizaka
So... No more Hiragana Oshi? It's Hinata Oshi now?
Almost 3 years.Our girls are finally free.
So the Saka groups will be outselling AKB and sister groups with half the groups and like 1/8th of the idols.
These girls, through their own hard work, won themselves independence.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHTHE STATE OF KEKJI
>>20804157>This thread is for the discussion of Nogizaka46, Keyakizaka46, HInatazaka46, Yoshimotozaka46 and topics relating to them and the members.
FUCK KANJI AND FUCK TECHI#HINATAZAKA46
This is the end of Keyakizaka.
>>20810432It's fucking beautiful.
>>20810434This, but unironically. If only Zuumin stuck around to switch. Never did like Kanji's cringey "we are targeted towards edgy teenagers" vibe.
>>20810438go back to your dead thread
New profiles are absolutely based.
>>20810432>>20810440Compare them to Keyaki profile pics for a good fucking laugh
>>20810432Better non blogspot looking website
finally a non angsty non permacenter group!
>>20810451I like how the Japanese are slowly getting better with their retarded webdev but never actually update their old sites.
Hinatazaka doesn't want to pay Techi tax anymore.
>>20810453Best Group Ever
>>20810454Yeah something that always irked me too
Remember to not buy Keyakizaka's single and save your money to support our Hinata's instead.
>>20810465Now that's a profile picture
>>20810405Is this for real? I'm really happy for this
>>20810484It's for real >>20810432Debut single next month.
Nogizaka > Hinatazaka > Kekyakizaka
>>20810446Probably picked by the girls instead of a biased staffu
Hinatazaka >>> Every other idol group > Keyakizaka
Happy Independence Day
>>20810433Neru is a kennin now?
>>20810499Had that same thought too. Kinda wished Konoka picked having a pic with the library in the background but still definitely fine with her current profile.
>>20810505my gf top right
ひらがな独立日の感じ。The day is finally fucking here. Happy Aura all around bitches
>>20810433Give me singles, mvs and group pb!!!!
>>20810505>>20810516Happy Independence Day brothers!
Sekai wa Hinatazaka Shika Nai
It's nice that everyone in the thread is happy together for once.These girls deserved this. I hope they do incredibly well.
>>20810497(kanji) finally can join the satan cult
What happened? Why are all the Indonesians so happy today?
finally, happy independence day
Why didn't Kanji draft a larger 2nd gen? A net loss of 12 members is pretty bad.
>>20810545Well, 11 seeing as Hinano never took part in any HS events. They lost 20 handshakers and added 9.
>>20810543They fell for the Western fanbase meme that their edgy music is the no.1 factor of their CD sales.
Hiragana oshi will become hinata oshi
>>20810534we're all white here
>>20810405>that logo>not overlaying Keyaki's logo but Nogizaka's insteadKEK. THEY WERE LIKE, KEYAKI WHO???THIS IS SO BASED XD
>>20810553>we're all Nogizaka fans hereReally?
>>20810548maybe because they think not all girls can keep up with their edgy music, so they just draft the girls that really meet kanji's criteria
>>20810543IDK, the drop from the 8th to 9th single is going to be pretty drastic if they lose half their HS slots. In the same way Hina will see sales roughly equal to an SKE or HKT if they only have ~20 girls with HS slots.
Today's a good day.
>>20810503Nogi’s are till cuter.
No one is stopping you from spamming Kyuudere
>>20810529I'm glad they will not get stained with hirate's awful chara
Just change the Yoshimotozaka logo to this and... we're clean finally
Tecucks absolutely btfo'd
>>20810569Nogibabas wish they were as cute as our Hinatas
Keyakizaka needs to drop the zaka and become "KEYAKI", then all will be right in this world.
>>20810587In this thread as well
>>20810577Ganas/Hinatas? wish they could compare with this.
>>20810589Won’t stop Ikudrone from spamming so unfortunately not.
but... the handsign...
>>20810599Fuck the handsign
>>20810593>posts a SEA>>20810601>posts a korean
I love the new name, probably because there's a n in it
what a shame. what is the point of comparing nogi to hinata/gana? they are on the same level, and definitely better than (kanji) keyakizaka
This as well.
kyuudere seething lmao
>>20810612>posts a man
>>20810610Yeah, I like both nogizaka and hinata
>>20810607Wow, mad because not as a cute, so you gotta go and make some kinda fake excuses. SAD!
>>20810610>they are on the same levelNot really. Nogi is the most popular idol group in Japan. HInata is a new group. Keyaki is shit.
Only degenerates like Keyakizaka
Don't let these Nogifags ruin Independence Day. You were shit when it was Gana and ya still shit now it's based Hinata.
>>20810610Being better than Kanji isn't really an accomplishment tb h. Feel sorry for good girls like Sugai and Kobayui tho.
>liking nogizaka and hinatazakaIt's a good feeling.
>>20810629>ya still shitI see you forgot your Techi picture again.
This is literally the death of Keyakizaka, do people realize this? This is what we should be celebrating. No way they can survive without Hiragana lmao.
>>20810629Lets face it, Hinatagana is just an inferior version of Nogizaka. Not trying to be rude, just stating the facts here.
>>20810645Nogi is trash just like Keyaki and 48G. Hinata is the on true group. God's group.
>>20810643Techifags probly scouting out the highest building in their local area to jump off of rn.
I'm opposed. Damn opposed
what's ukifune's reaction? appalled? exhilarated?
>>20810652Same. People are happy about Sakamichi becoming 48G 2.0? Waiting on the Sakamichi rival group.
>>20810648Imagine actually believing this garbage.
>>208106604 busus KEK
>>20810652>>20810657How many times are you going to reiterate the same point. I mean you have filibustered your position at least a dozen times already. Cut it out.
>>20810664Keep spamming Ikuta.
Good to hear the news about Gana. They're trending too on their announcement.
This sucks. Nogi and Keyaki had a good rivalry brewing on 5ch and now they fucked it up, probably going to have more disgusting group mixing.
>>20810662Wrong. Being in denial must be hard on you.
>>20810673Why do you keep posting SEAs?
On second thought let's not give (You)s to the most obvious falseflag of 2019.
>>20810643If I had a nickel for every time some mouth breather predicted the death of Keya on here I'd $15.35. It's the end of them selling a million copies of their singles but they'll still move between a 1/2 and a 3/4 million units. Just can't move a million units with out 40+ members Nogi couldn't do it with ~20 members either.
>>20810664gets me every time xD
>>20810669I hope they get a major push like Keyakizaka did. These girls deserve it.
>>20810676Please stop bullying and lying.
Just woke up. O lawd, is it Christmas already?
>>20810688If there's no chance of increase, they're dead. In one move Sony just killed Keyaki. They're no different from any other 48G subgroup now.
>>20810695They've had their own album, have their TV show, have had several commercial endorsements, a couple of stage plays, played Budokan and just did a big to do on Showroom announcing their first single, a concert and a name change. I'd say the push has and is happening.
>>20810688>>20810671>>20810707This is what happens when you make an insufferable girl like techi center forever. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
>>20810707except they'll have double the sales of any 48 sister group with a 1/5th or less girls and about half the sales of Nogi with less than half the girls and I'm up to $15.40
>>20810707More like they have given up hope on keyakis being an idol group and they are just going to get even edgier.
Can’t you see that you’re becoming what you’ve always hated? What’s next? Sakamichi Sousenkyo?
The profile pics look gorgeous, even Iguchi's
>>20810718>he's keeping track
>>20810718If an idol group has no chance of becoming the most popular in Japan, there’s no point following them. Even if Keyaki had a 0.1% chance before it’s now an even 0. Sony has given up on them.
If the name refers to a real place, there's a Hinatazaka in Minato-ku, near Keio University and some embassies. Here's a page with some pics and a link to a map. Doesn't look as upscale as Keyakizaka, but maybe. Anybody been there?Hinata (日向) means "in the sun," or "sunny place." The Hinatazaka in Minato is also pronounced "Hyuugazaka".Interesting thoughts from everyone, and particularly just now from MasToppu. They can use the same hand-sign. And what will they use as their enjin shout? (And who will decide?)@kanjo: It's too early for me to have solid thoughts, but thanks for the offer. I'm sure we will all have ideas. It does seem that we should just make a third Sakamichi section with similar threads, and transfer this thread and the member-threads to it. But beyond that...not sure. In the short term, I'd love this thread to have "Hinatazaka" at the front of its title, so I can identify it more easily in a tab. But in the longer term, we're used to the titles we have and can just use the same ones from Keyaki??I'm sad, like I'm imagining Memi is (she also doesn't want to be too far from Neru and Techi, perhaps). But this is so exciting. This group can establish itself and its own personality. And the amazing wealth of personality and talent can bloom.So is next Sunday's show now "HinataOshi"?
Hinatazaka about to lay the smack down on IZ*ONE
Let's just hope they keep Takahiro far away from our girls. I want traditional idols.
>>20810493Techi doesn't even deserve Memi.
>>20810756It’s the ultimate end game. Following an idol group which can’t achieve this would be like watching a movie with no ending. There’s no climax, no point.
>>20810758don't wish that hell on us
>>20810761Winning doesn't matter, anon. It's enjoying yourself that really counts.
Anyway it’s all down here for Keyaki. To think they peaked in sales with Garasu wo Ware. In two years time they’ll be selling 200k.
>>20810767I enjoy winning.
>>20810761No, the ultimate end game is the graduation of all the original members. That is when the story truly ends.
漢字終わったGotta spam this on twitter
>>20810767That’s going hard seeing as Sony has basically stopped pushing Keyakizaka.
>>20810761let me reiterate.
>>20810771Well, that’s on you.>>20810780Just because this happened doesn’t prove that Sony has stopped pushing Keyakizaka. You need to be more optimistic.
So this is what Americans felt when they gained their independence
There’s obviously going to be a large decrease in sales which is going to lead to a quality decline in their music and PVs, larger gap between BDs and photobooks, increase in graduations, eventual cancellation of their variety show etc. This is the beginning of the end. The only light at the end of the tunnel is that when the group hits this hard decline TAKAHIRO is probably going to want out.
>>20810771How can you enjoy something you've never done?
>>20810780Yeah they're treating Hinata like Nogis with the budget they use on their show, website and trimmings, meanwhile Keyakis film their show in a tiny studio that sounds like an empty warehouse. Though I follow the other two so I can't complain
>>20810800I'm gonna save this
So those 18 or so from the audition, are they going to be added to keyaki and hinata?
Hinatas hitting a victory pose after winning independence
>>20810814I like how they basically said they always wanted to split but were never willing to admit it while they were still under the Keyaki name
>>20810818They knew that they were being held back and had no chance to break through.
>>20810818Biding their time like the wise idols they are
Someone make virgin (kanji) Keyaki vs Chad Hinata please with this image if possible >>20810814
>>20810818don't want to piss off Aki-P's girlfriend
>>20810806Good that way when it happens you can’t say I didn’t warn you.
Isn't Hiragana Keyaki still represented in Keya's next single?
>>20810835Hiragana Keyaki is dead
Expect Keyaki variety to get even worse. These girls have seen nothing but sucess since their debut, when they notice Keyaki is slowing dying there’s going to be a lot of depression among the members. Also Nijika will be gone by the end of the summer.
>>20810814New drama when?
love the sky blue, Hinatazaka has such a sleek but light aesthetic
I love how this is now the most lively thread.
>>20810853>memi crying of happiness>"n-no! she must be sad just because I am butthurt and sad!!"kek
b-but where is the green slope in Hinatazaka's logo
>>20810863they are sky blue for the sky(duh) and purple for the cosmos, they are above the rest
>>20810744Hinata single will debut higher than that group did.
>>20810866that's exactly what i meant
>>20810869Nothing but good and healthy girls
>>20810865>>20810869Finally real idols~
Is this why Neru's been off color lately?
>>20810882It was a surprise to the Hinatas so I doubt the Keyakis knew it was coming
>>20810879Poor Neru. Who knows, maybe Kanji will find the error in their ways and make her center for once.
How long do you give it before Hinata outsells Keyaki?
>>20810888I wonder if there's a higher chance Kageyama returns now.
Based (director of remind btw)https://twitter.com/KOROYASU/status/1094860611391873025
>>20810883I think Kyonko knew beforehand.
>>20810895Haha nice seems they had the same reaction as us
Why can't we just like all three groups?
>>20810866It'll be interesting based on the sales of their album I expect their first week sales be in the 200-300k range where in that range will determine if they beat IZ*ONE or Keya's debut single sales.
>>20810912Tribalism, us vs them mentality. Following idol group is similar to following sports teams.
>>20810912I do, but there are a lot of whingy faggots on here who consider it literal violence against their person if someone likes a group and they don't.
>>20810916not really, it only is if you go full retard and we all know the rule about that.
>>20810914They will easily because they are an established group with already popular members.
>>20810919But most people in this thread are full retards.
https://twitter.com/gaogaoman915/status/1094876931579772928Hiragana Oshi announcement too? If it's just a name change I feel like they would just say it. Fingers crossed for an earlier timeslot.
>only started watching shows recentlyDo I have to pick up Hiragana Oshi right now
>>20810927It's the best show so yes.
>>20810927hira oshi is really good so you should still watch it either way
>>20810929>>20810937will do lads, thanks
>>20810405YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS!@@!!!!!! FUCK YES FUCK OFF TECHI NEVER HEAR YOUR SHIT NAME AGAIN!!!YEAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
>>20810516my love miku today is our best day alive!
>>20810922The only thing I have to go on is their album sales which were good, but were also very front loaded. It sold 60k more than the Nogi under album it's first day, 50k more it's first week and 40k more in total sales and Nogi sales are more front loaded than Keya sales. They'll need to be well north of 200k first day sales to beat Silent Majority's first week sales.
>>20810827fuck i'm crying!!!
Didn't hiragana only pick up one girl from the audition? They should've gotten at least 4-5 if they knew they'd split
>>20810968They're at 21 which is enough, Keyaki are the ones who needed more to keep the current member count the same but it seems Sony doesn't care about Keyaki anymore.
>>20810968Hinano is the equal of 4-5 girls.
>>20810968It looks like they are going with Keya and Hina having 20 or so girls, so no unders and Senbatsu selection is about placement not getting in.
>>20810976Keyaki is at an odd 27 girls. Probably going to start an undergirls system.
>>20810973Keya just added 9 girls so they have 26 or 27 girls depending on what ultimately happens with Aoi.
>>20810981Wonder if that means we'll see some smaller senbatsus? 16 member senbatsu and 11 member under would work.
Ok, but what's the best pokeman? we've got all the experts present
>>20810988With Kanji 1st gen and Hiragana they had 38, so it's a pretty big decrease. I guess 1st gen Keyaki members are going to have a lot more hands to shake next single if they intend to maintain their sale numbers.
>>20810993I'm pretty sure Keya holding their numbers went out the window with the split, unless they are gonna dump 10-12 of the girls that passed the audition but have yet to debut on them before the 9th single.
>>20811010Now that I wrote it out I'm thinking that is the plan
>>20811013Sounds too good to be true. Probably just going to let Keyaki sit selling a steady ~600k and put all their effort into pushing Hinata.
>>20810992Whichever one Memi likes
>>20810992until now I'm not sure if memi is ugly cute or pretty cute
>>20810923Do not expect too much from this general where 90% of people think that all nogis are pure and don't suck dicks
>>20811023yiff in yakuza hell
>>20811027none of my favorites do that but everyone else does
>>20811027Maybe the 10% should go back to their /vp/ thread.
>>20811018If there are 18-20 girls being held in reserve that's a lot of girls just to cover for sudden graduations.If the plan was do the split then and make up the lost HS slots over 2 singles and keep 8-10 girls in the bullpen then it makes more sense.
>>20811040I think they’re going to be the new “hiragana keyaki”, stay there for a couple years, and debut themselves. Kanji might become the training ground for new sakamichi groups. Otherwise management just fucked with about 200k+ of keyaki sales.
>>20811049The loss in 200k Keyaki sales doesn't matter too much because it can be made back with a successfully selling Hinatazaka single.
Who Will Center The First Hinatazaka46 Single?
Hopefully Katoshi is the center for their first single.
>>20811065I hope she centers the first graduation single.
>>20811055Yea but it looks bad, and in japan businesses are all about appearance
>>20811049So make Hiragana the Keya term for the unders makes sense, point being Keya will maintain about the same number of HS slots.>>20811055The question is why have 18-20 girls in reserve the only reasons I can come up with is either Keya's going to get half or so of them to maintain their HS slots and the rest are there to debut as girls graduate (from Nogi mostly) or Sony is planning another Sakamichi group.
Is there a source on them having members in reserves?
>>20811069Please go back to keya. We dont want this sort of negativity in Hinatazaka.
>>20811063>>20811067>>20811065I think they'll want to put their best foot forward or best vocalist at least and give it to Kyoko but Nao would be my 2nd guess Memi my 3rd.
>>20811087>SEA daisuki saito kyoko desuAnyone but her
>>20811080It's based off of the number of girls who passed the auditions vs the number who actually have had their debut.
>>20811098So it's an Iguchi Mao center for you then.
>>20810952H NONON NONON OH NO NO NO NON ONO NO NO WHAT DO WE D O TECHI BROS
>>20810857Where are the people implying she is sad? Next to Sakurafags?
>>20811087Memi would be a great choice. I think they will go with Nao as they are pushing her a lot. I hope we don't end up with another permacenter though.
>>20811104I aint sweating, don't buy your own bullshit. Keya's fine and Sakamichi as a whole looks rock solid well in to the future unlike AKB which looks to be sinking faster than the STU boat.
>hiragana wouldn't exist without neru>neru wouldn't have joined without harada mayu scandalingGot to give it up to that teacher, he really directed us into the best timeline.
>>20811102That would be preferable compared to a Kyoko center
>>20811063I have a feeling its either mirei or miho
>>20811118I dont get why they push Nao, she's boring.
>>20811121They'll just throw more girls at the problem. AKS seems to be the problem since SKE members are getting lots of work after breaking off from AKS. If it wasn't for the scandal NGT girls would be doing fine as well. All SONY groups do good.
>>20811118They already have eschewed the perma-center thing. It works for Keya no matter or perhaps because of the amount of butt hurt it causes.
Obviously Hina is going to center Hinatazaka
>>20810847Keyaki variety has been solid since the start of the year though
>>20811118>another permacenterI see no reason why Hiragana's management would suddenly become incompetent after a name change.
>>20811127She sells well and she's getting lots of modeling work, I thought Mirei centering the MV for the album was a curve ball because she had kinda of middling sales so maybe they throw another curve for the single and have Hiyori center.
>>20811122I started watching Keyakitte from the start recently to try get into them and I have no clue why Neru's mother would let her audition then forcibly fly her back to Nagasaki when it became clear she was in the running to debutThat just seemed like a waste of time and/or money
>>20811150Partly thanks to Habu for sacrificing her dignity and taking over from Ozeki and Oda who have become boring.
>>20811167How much dignity can a 170cm tall giantess have?
>>20811164The whole thing was probably made up.
>>20811177I was thinking that but mostly out of hope that no parent would be so stupid to powertrip AFTER that passed like 3 auditions
>>20811167Habu is carrying the group at the moment yes, but also the actual themes of the episodes are better than they were compared to last year; the members are actually DOING shit rather than sitting and listening.
>>20811162>Hiyori centerDont play with my heart anon
>>20811122>>20811164Though I did find it funny that the change happened in the middle of the "physical training episodes" so Episode 1 has them ranked out of 21 then inexplicably it's down to 20 in the 2nd episode
>>20811203wtf never noticed they had zuumin techi and suzumoto sit like that from the beginning. had the silent majority front row chosen from the start.
>>20811200one can only hope
They're gonna need a new overture. Hope it's as cool as the keyaki one.
>>20811200If she wasn't so autistic on camera she would be a solid choice, not sure how good a singer she is but this is idol so it hardly matters. She's tall, attractive and has a dance background so would make an impression on stage maybe she centers the b-side don't have to promo too much for that.
>let's have the girls watch a tape of a location shoot for the last episode of the day>girls are falling asleepMy favourite variety episodes. Every single group has them.
>all that new merchandising due to the change of namebased management
>>20810847>Nijika will be gone by the end of the summer.What? Why?
>>20811232They all have the same producers and presumably the same budget in a fiscal year.
>>20811231Her voice is pretty decent. It's quite deep and distinctive. She is quite immature though so it will be a while if she centers anything.
>>20811235Keyakizaka management have been shit with merch. No birthday shirts and new merch only once in a blue moon.
>>20811231>>20811244shes been improving recentlyshe used to not say anything or even look at audrey
>>20811235Might actually buy something for once.
>>20811242It's literally just naysayers; Nijika just got a job with Zambi, why would she graduate now.
>>20811261She has gotten better and moved a notch ahead of Mei-chan, but she's not the best choice to be interviewed on Music Station and that among other reasons is why I'd put my money on Kyoko getting center for the debut single.
>>20811242People are stupid and think that HS sales are all that matter in the idol world. They do not. She's the best actress, one of the best dancers, and a decent singer in a group of shit tier ones. She's fine. People that actually go to her lanes say there's always lines, she just doesn't sell out.
>>20804157Here's a draft for the next OP. Hinatazaka's blogs are still redirecting to Keyakizaka's site, so I just added the website. Also some of the links didn't work with https, so I left them as http.This thread is for the discussion of Nogizaka46, Keyakizaka46, HInatazaka46, Yoshimotozaka46 and topics relating to them and the members.>News(02/11) Hiragana Keyakizaka46 changed their name to Hinatazaka46 and announced their 1st Single and Live Concert (02/12-17) Zambi~Theater's end (Ito Riria, Ishimori Nijika, Ushio Sarina, Sakaguchi Tamami, Oda Nana, Matsuda Konoka, Iwamoto Renka, Watanabe Rika & Sasaki Kumi) at The Galaxy Theater(02/21-24) Nogizaka46 7th Anniversary LIVE at Kyocera Dome Osaka(02/26) Takayama Kazumi 2nd Photobook (Dokuhaku)(02/27) Keyakizaka46 8th Single (Kuroi Hitsuji) Hirate Yurina center(02/27) Magia Record Magical Girl Madoka Magica Gaiden Stage Play BD/DVD release(03/13) Kobayashi Yui 1st Photobook (Title TBA)(03/23) LAGUNA MUSIC FES.2019 (Hinatazaka46)(03/27) Hinatazaka46 1st Single (Title TBA) (03/05-06) Hinatazaka46 1st Debut Countdown Live at Yokohama Arena(04/10) Watanabe Risa 1st Photobook (Title TBA)(05/31) Zambi Stage Play BD/DVD release(TBA) Nogizaka46 Zambi Movie>LinksUpcoming Sakamichi TV appearances: https://pastebin.com/c8tMgEmhSakamichi Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17eKIpPGgBA1YUV5bI3yyKyQYcW9hqM9iLaFZcZP3mLA48/46 Group Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1HFVF5iQBgvjDrPnmwfbq0Iz6VvaOmDep0C2x8yoMoSakamichi H/S: https://ameblo.jp/seto-kasumiLODs and Live Shows: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnKp_AEeGUNTNePfY3C3AO4veiVi7frza82lRo44ejQNogizaka46 blogs: https://blog.nogizaka46.com/Keyakizaka46 blogs: http://blog.keyakizaka46.comHinatazaka46: https://www.hinatazaka46.comYoshimotozaka46: http://yoshimotozaka46.comSakamichi on Showroom:https://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/nogizaka46_srhttps://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/keyakizaka46_srhttps://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/yoshimotozaka46Previous Thread: >>20804157
When the Hinatazaka mobame comes out, they better have a way to move the old messages to the new one.
>>20811269I'm a Kyonko oshi and I don't mind if she centers or not. Would like to see her get plenty of solo songs though.
>>20811274in most of aki-p idol groups, the face is more important than the singing/dancing/acting skills
>>20811274There's this one twitter user who never shuts up about HS sales as though they're the most important thing, it's annoying as shit. Could be very likely that it's the same person.
>>20811274Even being low selling Sakamichi means long lines and shaking hands all day this aint 48 where 2/3 of the girls are twiddling their thumbs waiting for someone to show up.
>>20811286And Naako isn't good at any of those and yet she's the top hs seller.
>>20811280She just hits all the points you want for a debut single, she's a great singer which could be showcased in the song, a good enough dancer and I trust her more than any other center candidates (except maybe Mirei and Miho) in interviews and her distinctive speaking voice will garner attention.
I wonder what happened to the 12th member. She had recorded her introduction and everything.
Good now Hinatazaka is going to make the kpop they love so much now.
>>20811329You have to remember it's an idol group. I think the group would benefit if they put a visual member up front.
>>20810432Everything is so light, calm and comfy.
>>20811332Hopefully! They have a rapper and members that can hit high notes. (I'm being semi-ironic here)
>>20811366They do have a rapper.
I think it's very likely going to be Katoshi. I'm almost certain though that Miho will center one of the the first three singles.
>>20811332>making music that's actually popularSounds like a great plan to me.
>>20811332AKI-P is too cheap to hire people talented enough to make k-pop level music.
>>20811399Sony not Aki-P does the hiring, I'm sure he has input and his song writing sweatshop provides the lyrics but I'm certain Sony has people in house who compose and produce the music.
>>20811332>tfw Koreans tore them apart for thishttps://youtu.be/jaXysiJMhHU?t=99
>>20811366>Paripi rapping while Nao is shaking her assYikes
>>20811412Go look at the music credits between Nogi and 48s. It's a lot of the same people. Keyaki has been notably had new fresh people doing them and it's been to their advantage. But it's still literal who's doing it. K-pop groups can get big names to produce their songs.
>>20811291it is not about hs selling, it is about how long she will be in the group
>>20811424>Keyaki has been notably had new fresh people doing them and it's been to their advantageThat's a new narrative to make Keyaki stand out as something different and special. Shame it's not exactly true.
>>20811442They changed their narrative after people laughed at them when they tried to convince us that the girls (usually techi) wrote the lyrics and created the songs
>>20811524Techi is Aki-Ps ghostwriter for Keyakizaka
I HATE IT
>When Memitan realized that she's separated from Techi foreverI felt sad seeing her on the verge of breaking down while the others were ecstatic.
>>20811645They can still meet secretlyiykwim
>>20804157So, have you analyzed all the themes in the new video of Techizaka, Blacksheep?
>>20811645You have a vivid imagination.
Haha, I'm here. What happened?
>>20811728Hori is cute
>sky blueWe Manchester City now.
Next on the table is Sakamichi's own SSK. Also I thought complete rebrandings are generally considered to be a complete nightmare
What a day to be a HinataCHAD.
>>20811749Who's Chelsea then?
>>20811774You have to fuck off.
>>20811764literally nothing worse than having two completely different groups with the same name
>>20811822t. Assblasted NogiSEETHE
Does this mean that Hinatazaka46 can win a MAMA International Newcomer award this year?
Hinata hiragana still bores me and i hate techi too.All girls look boring.
>>20811855Fuck off nogicuck
>>20811774/ourgirls/ looking good!
>>20811890Yay, Nogi discussion!
>>20811894Post more Hinanos
post more nogiwhores
Yay, blog reposts
>>20811894Hinano blog when? Don't tell me we're gonna wait until the end of March?
>>20811918We're gonna wait until the end of March
I've been out of the loop, any new Nogi scandals since Sayurin?
Keyavids will still have Hinata content because they started as Keyakis but is there a site like that for Nogi
>>20809755Imagine if this was really her
>>20811920Nah, since Hinata blogs are still part of the Keyaki we're gonna get her blog by next week once the Keyaki 2nd gens finish.
>>20811923This! More Nogi content please!
I've been out of the loop, showderpfags still shitting up this general because they are bored with theirs?
>>20811963Yes.Just ignore them.
>>20810302Thanks for contributing!
What a qt.
>>20811959I hate that it came to this. They should have been unders at most from the very beginning, able to get into senbatsu and rotating in and out of it. But nope, AkiP has to be (You)nique with everything so he needed muh dark and muh light. I'd be surprised if anything about Neru's debut was true and if she wasn't just told she'd debut slightly later to give a dramatic story. But if this is how both of the ships can course correct then that's how it will be, and it may turn out even better for all of them in the long run
HE HATES IT
>>20811935>>20811980I hate group-mixing but I love both. It hurts.
>>20811998That's fine. As long as it's not Nogishitters, it's fine.
>>20812000I like that they're actually pure and not just fake pure :3
>>20812000True that!From now on I'll be supporting Keyakizaka46 and Hinatazaka46.
>>20811963What does it look like?
Based masssterchief. https://twitter.com/masssterchief/status/1094963924837912577
>>20812000As someone who always loved Kanji and Hiragana, I welcome this group mixing. Finally a a TRUE sister group.
>>20812021I am glad that these two are friends in private because that means they will still see each other
>>20812020He really is the best
>>20812020This day can't get better.
>>20811928I can not imagine
>>20812036Why not kyuu?
>>20812021>Finally a a TRUE sister groupWell said, bruh. Well said.
>>20812000Well said anon
>>20812038Wwhat iss Kyuuu
Don't call it a raid.