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I'm not the usual OP, but there has been an announcement that we EOPs are finally getting IkaBey on February 28th. There is no /sbg/ so I'm making it myself.
https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1094008211366178818

Rejoice!
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Rejoice! I'm already informing the (non-existent) german fanbase of the wonderful news!
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>>20797643
Don't do this. If you really want to do this still, at least copypaste the regular oppost. But ideally just don't do this until the end of the month.
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>>20797730
What does Germany have to do with anything?
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>>20797776
I'm german and write news for a german eroge/vn website. Also, thats a cute Kaguya.
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A mere announcement isn't enough to suddenly revives us, we need the actual game to come out. Just be patient, I'll be sure to make a proper thread on the 22nd, then we just need to wait a week.
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>>20797781
Can't you guys just read English? You're doing God's work anyway
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>>20797794
>>20797767
I guess I got too excited and acted rashly. Oh well. Consider this thread a prequel to the great thread we're bound to have when IkaBey comes out.
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>>20797781
Hata?
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>>20797810
もうバレちゃった。。。
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>Fans will be pleased to know that the company has ongoing plans in the west,
nice can't wait for senshikan, also someone need to ask them if they also translate the Ikabey Drama CD's
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>>20797821
>>20797781
Please don't ruin /sbg/, thanks. We have enough shitposters already.
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It's time to support light, brothers. So we can have all their games in english.
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>>20799940
tfw i'll probably torrent the game like i did with dies irae
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>>20800137
based
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>>20799940
>>20800137
Sometimes I wish I wasn't poor and could barely afford to pay my bills as it is so that I could support my chuunige fantasies. That being said, I hope this does well so that we get Senshinkan and KKK.
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>>20799940
I mean, I want to buy their games, but steam man. I buy all my games here but DRM is especially frustating when it comes to VN.
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>>20800612
Agreed. I hate buying stuff on steam and try to avoid it. I wish they'd sell it on GoG or some other non-DRM platform.
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>>20800612
>>20801731
Just buy it from mangagamer then.
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>>20800328
im not trying to sound cool and i would prefer not to pirate it, but i just cant bring myself to spend money on anything anime related
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looks better than dies
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>>20799940
sadly i'm a poorfag in a borderline 3rd world shithole
maybe if i get out of here i'll buy it
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>>20797730
Hey, we're at least like 5 or so.
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You damn 便座厨s.
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>>20799940
If you want to support Light, EOP, you should learn Japanese and buy directly from them. By buying shitty English translations you're supporting faggots like Conjueror and ReadingSteiner.
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>>20805627
retard
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>>20805845
Fuck off, RS.
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>>20805902
Dude, suck my cock.
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>>20799940
Don't support light, they're a dumpster fire of a company and they can literally burn in hell. Masada and Takahama are obviously cool, but fuck them.
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>>20805627
>By buying shitty English translations you're supporting faggots like Conjueror and ReadingSteiner
I hope they've improved, for the sake of anyone who wants to read and enjoy the vn.
On that note, stop shitposting man.
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>>20807741
Oh, it's you.
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>>20807858
W-what does that mean?
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>>20807891
Aren't you that guy that always post with Senshinkan and KKK screenshots, sometimes suddenly losing his shit at EOP?
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>>20807903
>Aren't you that guy that always post with Senshinkan and KKK screenshots
Yes
>sometimes suddenly losing his shit at EOP?
I've literally never done this
hell i translated some bits from the pantheon prolouge
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>>20807919
The bit about Hajun? Huh, haven't seen your usual filenames in a while now. Busy with uni, I take it?
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>>20807938
>Busy with uni, I take it?
Yup, doing work as we speak and found the thread active whilst i was procrastinating
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>>20807919
Yeah? Sorry then , must have been another guy, just assumed since he also ranted with KKK cgs and had similar post style. My bad, and thanks for the work.
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>>20807741
>866
What the hell, man, you have more senshinkan screenshots than me. And I thought I'm weird for screenshotting everything.
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>>20808100
I screenshot almost everything, reaction images, cool quotes, nice lines which don't mean anything without context, etc .
I'm ashamed to admit that I got into that habit when I first started reading untranslated vns for maximum shitposting
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>>20808139
>nice lines which don't mean anything without context
My favorite honestly.
One day I'll stop shitposting in /sbg/ with unrelated Shumon stuff. But not today.
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>>20808964
I try to keep it light related over here
我が始まりよ、灰になれ
is one of my favourite phrases from ikabey, but i guess if you haven't read it, it has no meaning to you
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>>20809482
Yes, I also remembered that line quite well. Well, pretty much the whole final part of ikabey was really well-written.
Actually, I think both dies/KKK and senshinkan have a lot of lines that are pretty meaningless by themselves, but are insanely strong in the context.
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Still wondering what the hell was this about. Could it have been Steiner teasing us?
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Is it just me or is the KKK ending like really bad

I feel like all the great buildup fell flat on it's face
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>>20809583
Obviously? They did actually release Ikabey and the chances of KKK coming too are now pretty high.
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>>20809696
how the fuck would you even translate KKK without destroying everything that made it what it was?

honestly I'd even be satisfied if you told me how they plan to translate several sentences that are written in unreadable font and can only be made out through audio. I for one legitimately don't know.
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>>20809732
Dunno, re-purpose each jindai moji to have an alphabet equivalent? Like, one character represents the letter A, some other the letter B, and so on. That would make it one hell of a pain to decipher/read, but it's kind of a solution, I guess.
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>>20809774
Or just put a ruby text on it. Kind of defeats the purpose of those lines, but nothing else one can do about that.
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>>20809774
how is it a solution if japs are able to understand what is said through audio and english readers aren't? the only real solution would be partial english dub
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>>20809794
Subtitle the audio?
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>>20809826
at that point you might aswell write it directly into the text boy, ruining the entire point. I have no doubt they'll do exactly that though.
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>>20809873
I don't understand how that ruins the point, it's less mysterious and crowds the screen a little yes, but I don't see what bothers you? That now it's too easy to understand what is said?
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https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1094915655051239424

Is this accurate?
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>>20811356
Although Ikabey has some nods to Kajiri, there are no explicit references, at all. The most obvious nod is, probably, the scene with the rosary in the end (I think it was the last scene in Ikabey? Don't have it installed right now so can't check), but it's not something that doesn't have a meaning by itself.
So, yes, it is fairly accurate. But if Kajiri is ever to be translated, you might want to reread Ikabey afterwards.
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>>20809794
In original (not Akebono) KKK there was just noise instead of normal audio in those lines until you fully complete game and reread it again.
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>>20811356
I don't know if Steiner is trying to do damage control, but no one said that it would spoil KKK, but rather that it would have more of an impact if you read it before hand. Almost similar to KKK and Dies Irae. At its core Ikabey is a continuation and conclusion of Wilhelm's character arc, which to no surprise, KKK had the greatest importance to.
That's why I posted a few times that it would be really weird for them to release Ikabey before KKK.
but then again it could be the jews at light trying to wring out a market whilst they can
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>>20811742
https://twitter.com/__maomi__/status/1094967329790672896
Huh, it's true. Guess they could to the same thing in a possible translation, leave it as it is on your first play-through, translate it normally (or use ruby text) on your second.
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>>20811919
That's genuinely stupid, just about as stupid as them actually doing it in the first iteration of the game though.
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>>20811919
They could leave it with the distorted voices for a first playthrough and use a cipher alphabet for people to read it if they want to decode it. Then on a second playthrough it could unlock and read normally.
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>>20809794
here's a solution and something dumb enough that steiner and conjueror might actually do
MaKE thE ChaRACterS TaL liKE tHiS LiKE tHEy DiD WiTH TUbaL CaIN
and it was pretty dumb then too
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>>20811933
That wouldn't be a solution since it's meant to be unintelligible, not just weird/out of place. What would you have done for Cain?
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>>20811937
left it the same, he's just speaking in katakana in lieu of where hira would be used.
but then again, i'm autistic and that style of writing vexes me
but it could also let english readers know what's being said like for the japanese readers , rather than complete white noise where there's nothing. some of the most impactful lines come from behind the old language like yato grieving shirou and micheal or him thanking tokoyo
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>>20811962
Best solution would be to create a new cipher font to replace the jindai moji. Then players can half-read/decipher it.
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who cares about KKK, senshikan or vendetta is next
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>>20812210
you wish
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>>20812210
watch them bring over a moege next instead.
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Beatrice is best Girl.
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>>20812210
>senshikan
Jesus, good luck to the poor bastard who has to translate all the taoist, buddhist and literary references whilst also adapting all the plays on kanji into English.
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>>20805403
Six..

There can't be to much People from Magna Germania, who enjoy Dies Irae.
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https://twitter.com/_szrf/status/1094902129364328458
I know it's 3DPD, but that's a pretty nice Longinuslanze.
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>>20812806
please do not post anime screenshots
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>>20813875
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>>20811742
they made it in an opition in akebono at the start of the game.

if you check "I posses knowledge of the old world" it has audio, otherwise it's noise.
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>>20812880
not like KKK would be any easier
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>>20812880
Was there even some actual kanji fuckery in senshinkan aside from the regular double meanings?
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>>20813945
how did every shot managed to look off-model
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>>20814070
akebono kinda looks like it was made for returning fans and didnt care about avoiding spoilers, they just show off the tenma and I swear on the official page it says that Yato is ren
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>>20814879
if light cared about spoilers the pantheon website wouldn't exist
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>>20814879
>it says that Yato is ren
tbf Yato is a color swapped Merc, hard to no connect the dots.
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Is it true that Marie gets cucked in KKK?
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>>20816680
Yes.
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>>20816680
not even only in KKK, even in the route that only exists in masada's head.

no true happy ending for marie at all. even if the pantheon protag ends up summoning her because muh gacha, ren marrying rea still happened.
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>>20816680
yes Ren true love is only Kei
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>>20817024
Kei almost gets almost as much cucked as marie considering masada keeps making her a fucking loli.
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>>20816849
Which is funny considering that most of Ren dialogue/narration outside of ranting like an autist about time and nichijou is muh marie.
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>>20817172
makes merc look like even more of a hikki loser too.
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>>20816849
>even if the pantheon protag ends up summoning her because muh gacha
Anon, did you miss Pantheon's prologue that came out last year?
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>>20817382
Don't try to reason with a shitposter. Chances are that he didn't even read Kajiri, let alone the pantheon prologue.
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>>20817382
I finished kkk last week so yes. I have it bookmarked though if it makes you feel better
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>>20812806
Saber-chan is so cute!
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Rusalka love?
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>>20820205
Rusalka is by far the least interesting and likeable character in Dies Irae. "waah a few villagers lynched me so I'm going to spend the next 200 years of my life torturing people and chasing a shadow". Stupid hag.
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>>20820234
But she's cute, so it's okay!
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>>20820241
You're correct but you're not right.
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>>20820234
She should have had a route, where Ren and her kiss and have wholesome sex in the classroom with the sunset shining through the windows, that ends with them settling in a distant comfy village.
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>>20820865
That won't work. All the LDO are too old and have a self-destructive urge. Rusalka held hers off for so long only due to sheer autism and her desire to find Mercurius. She won't be able to settle down, not for long at least.
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>>20820889
Let me dream anon.
Didn't Triffa mention a way to stop the degradation of/repair the soul ? He did plan to keep doing his retarded plan for as long as necessary too.
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>>20823201
Rude and worst boy.
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Let it die anons, we'll be back next week with a proper OP.
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I expected this thread to die much faster.
Well, either way, have some Satanael before dying.

https://pastebin.com/qYPjXTWK

With that I'm going back to reading nukitashi, so don't expect something else any time soon. Though we'll be dead until ikabey anyway.
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>>20826445
>The fact that the one who took the Throne after me, the Mercury, was the embodiment of the self-destructive desire — I cannot call it anything but irony.
Kek. Fuck, Satanael is growing on me; how am I supposed to choose which God to re-roll for when they're all great?
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>>20826636
You don't re-roll, you're just satisfied with whatever you get.
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>>20826636
Accept the purification of the show-white salt.
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>>20826636
>><implykig you can getgod
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>>20826445
Was about to tl his section myself but holy fuck God bless you
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>>20828025
For reference, if you still wanna TL something, this is what has been translated so far:
https://pastebin.com/5TvydkdN
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>>20814876
Shitty studio. Their only previous recent work was Freezing. Also, apparently like half the budget of a single cour for 18 episodes
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I wasn't going to do this, but it somehow happened, so here's Hajun.

https://pastebin.com/pd3SLGCU
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What happened at Katyn forest(other than massacre of poles)?
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>>20832452
Nothing else historically important. There are some ancient (roughly X century) cemeteries relatively close, but that's about it.
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>>20832526
i saw something about it on dies irae twitter page
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>>20832543
Oh, that. You'll see in ikabey. Basically a Masada's version of Katyn massacre.
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>>20832593
oh good lord i'm afraid
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Wish I wasn't such a poorfag so I could buy a few copies of IkaBey to give it away here.
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how much is ikabey going to be anyway? anymore than 15 bucks for a 5 to 6 hour vn is a joke
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>>20833398
VN always go something in the range of 35 to 50 bucks.
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>>20833450
That's normal length VNs, though
Not something even marketing acknowledges as a short side story
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>>20833450
most vns that are in that range last longer than 10 hours, it sucks but i guess i'm pirating ikabey
though i don't feel too bad about light
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What the fuck happened to this thread?
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>>20833779
What do you mean?
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>>20833788
Don't mind me, I'm just retarded.
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Reminded by the shitstorm in /vn/, I decided to do the part where Muzan attacks Hajun. It's a very cool fragment actually, probably the best part of the whole pantheon prologue, and now it's ruined by my terrible translation.
Enjoy.

https://pastebin.com/a7DnUaM6

Also someone please save me, I don't want to translate the whole thing almost alone.
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>>20834220
>Reinhard: They haven't clashed once. Thousand times, ten thousand times, or maybe even more.
Holy shit. Also:
>shitstorm in /vn/
Not really, it was actually quite civil. Just a few misunderstandings here and there.
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>>20834220
Take it easy ruski bro, it's not like we're pressed for time or anything.
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>>20834220
So Hajun is still the strongest God and the others still remember how they got their shit pushed in by him?
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>>20835393
with how hajun is written masada would need to pull out eldritch gods or some shit to overpower him.
his whole thing is endless power. his one and only wish is to get rid of every other form of life and just wants more and more power to exterminate everything and finally be alone. he basically just bruteforces through every kind of techinique you throw at him by sheer powerlevel. If you check his "abilities" page in KKK you'll see that he doesn't even have anything on his own, he just fights you like a chimp of steroids.
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>>20835393
No, the point is exactly that they're roughly at the same level, at least for now. Hajun still has his ever-expanding power, so after some time he might become the strongest in terms of the raw destructive power. Though we obviously have no idea what will happen when he'll try to attack one of those five entities.
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>>20835916
Why is everyone amazed at Muzan being able to hurt him and why are they all like "this nigga crazy" when he attacks him then?
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>>20836299
Have you missed the whole line about "testing their strength"? Until Muzan actually attacked Hajun, and until Ren tried to stop then, none of them knew their own level of strength. If Hajun was actually as strong as he was in the past, Muzan probably would've been annihilated in a split second.
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>>20836299
>>20836537
He is obviously not as strong or Ren's time stop wouldn't have worked against him.
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>>20836608
>Ren's time stop wouldn't have worked against him.
>what is kkk
>what did ren do for 8,000 years straight
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>>20836776
Hajun could still act no? From what I understood in the prologue Ren completely stopped both of them, which is the reason they stopped , Muzan in particular, attacking each others like the autists they are.
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>>20836791
>Hajun could still act no?
No? The most he did was have a conversation with Yakou at the end of his route and that's because Yakou was one of his hunting dogs. Hajun could only start acting after Yatou died, and only then did he even notice Habaki. which caused him to freak the fuckk out
>From what I understood in the prologue Ren completely stopped both of them, which is the reason they stopped
Haven't watched in a while but from what I remember Ren simply stopped Hajun from btfo'ing Muzan by stopping time for a split second, causing Hajun to go back to his Naraka daze, thus defusing the situation.
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did the naraka fucks pull Ren out of the 7th heaven? the prologue doesn't straight up mention it.

fucking ren dates marie, then she get's killed so he marries Rea, and now he's back to flirting with marie. chad thundercock.
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>>20836960
Not the anon you're arguing with, but I have no idea what the hell are you talking about. Yato couldn't affect Hajun in any way after he was thrown out from the singularity. He just created a small domain with his power, stopping the Tengudou from being complete that way. The only reason he wasn't crushed by Hajun is because Hajun simply didn't see him, just like he didn't see anyone else in the universe.
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>>20836960
That's >>20837208
what I thought too, no saying you're wrong but that's what I remember too.
Now
>what I remember Ren simply stopped Hajun from btfo'ing Muzan by stopping time for a split second, causing Hajun to go back to his Naraka daze, thus defusing the situation.
If someone could enlighten us on what actually happened.
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>>20837429
>what actually happened.
It's really simple though.
Muzan forces Hajun to notice him.
Hajun's Metsujin Messou activates and Muzan attacks. According to the Reinhard's comment, they've clashed more than ten thousand times in a split second. Hajun crushes Muzan's right hand, Muzan cuts off Hajun's finger.
Ren timestops both of them.
Muzan stops his attack.
Hajun no longer sees Muzan, so he goes back to looking at Naraka (and four others...something?).
Hajun's finger and Muzan's hand both recover.
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>>20837542
>Ren timestops both of them.
So yeah, he does TS both of them completely, so Hajun is indeed not even near his KKK powerlevel.
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>>20837567
Just in case, the original line that states that
>そしてお前は、完全と言えぬまでも俺たちを止めた
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>>20837588
I see, thanks anon.
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It has been a while but i haven't seen it, did they finally release a good quality images of the other thrones? (Reinhard, Ren, etc)
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>>20840157
Nah, they're really shitting themselves with pantheon.
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I saw many people say Kei's route wasn't really good, but holy shit that whole school scene was fucking madness. Loved every second of it.
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>>20837542
Wasn't Muzan's arm btfo by some throne mechanism rather than Hajun himself?
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>>20840319
the route is fine but the ending was super anti-climactic and abrupt
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>>20840319
Kei is best girl and her romance was the least bad. Romance as a whole isn't D.I's strong suit but Kei's was cute. I hate how quickly she went from Tsun to idolising Ren, but otherwise it was pretty good. I also really like her character. Compared to her, the other romances were pretty bad. Kasumi is boring and worst girl, while Marie and especially Rea are completely overshadowed by the chuuni stuff in their route. I straight up skipped Rea's parts because I wanted to get to the fights.
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>>20840164
best case scenario they just give up and release it as a standard VN to finish the plot.
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>>20841246
>Kasumi is boring and worst girl,
fuck off
>straight up skipped Rea's parts because I wanted to get to the fights.
disgusting
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>>20840483
There's no line that states or implies that. Muzan says that his hand recovered on its own — but nothing about how it was damaged. And according to Reinhard, before Ren stopped time, Muzan and Hajun actually fought, Reinhard says that Metsujin Messou activated, which is probably what destroyed Muzan's hand.
If for some reason you want to believe some speculation (I honestly have no idea where this theory came from) rather than the actual narration, well, then it's up to you to decide what happened.
>>20841246
>skipped Rea's parts
Disgraceful.
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>>20841910
Who needs Rea when we get to see the REAL best girl?
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>>20843839
>Who needs Rea
Me.
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Can't wait to win the giveaway tomorrow. I wonder what the A-tier prizes are going to be.
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>>20845317
Rea:
> part gaijin, and a g*rman at that
> The Big Gay her grandpa has might be genetic
> pathetic short and flat body
> weak
> Idiot savant who can't even fight but knows useless shit like theology and arithmetic
> Her family is awful
> has been abused as a child by a paedo
Best Girl Kei:
> pure nipponjin blood
> Her only family member that we know of is a man of supreme taste and has been groomed for /ss/ by Kei's onee-chan so she must have good taste too and isn't gay
> Ideal yamato nadeshiko figure
> strong
> Knows many practical skills like fighting and dressing well
> excellent upbringing where she traveled the world and has been tutored by clever people.
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>>20845517
>yellow monkey blood
yeah, don't use blood here, the other reasons are fine but don't get blood involved when there's based german blood involved
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>>20845939
G*rmans:
> Weren't even a state until the mid 1800s
> Descend from Barbarians who leeched off of Rome
> No culture beyond "muh sausages"
> Couldn't exterminate the single most hated ethnic group on Earth
> Got raped by Soviets
> Have been sowing discord and ruining Europe ever since they became a country until present day
Grorious Nippon:
> Have the longest serving dynasty in the world
> Cultural heritage is a mix of their own inventions and China, one of the world's most ancient and enlightened cultures
> Rich culture, language, and art
> Don't need to fail at exterminating juden because their country is already homogenous
> Culturally enriched by America willingly
> Largely peaceful country until they got into the colonial game because they wanted Europa-senpai to notice them, and Senpai really did notice them.
Ironic shitposting is not shitposting. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't
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What's the difference between Ahnenerbe and Ewigkeit? The former is just a tool while the latter is the sorcery that's being carried out , i.e the Briah and Atziluth stuff, right?? Does that mean that an Ahnenerbe can facilitate a different craving than the ones we see the characters do? For example, would Beatrice's sword be able to pull off Kei's craving if Kei were to have it?
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>>20841246
>I straight up skipped Rea's parts because I wanted to get to the fights.
based
rea route is overrated
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>>20845517
based Keibro
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>>20847277
>For example, would Beatrice's sword be able to pull off Kei's craving if Kei were to have it?
Theoretically, yes, but Ahnenerbe choose their wielders. For all we know, Beatrice's sword might not like Ahotaru.
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https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1097151331700260864
Winner of this retweet contest gets a custom shikishi by G Yuusuke apparently.
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>>20848915
Want want want want want
I'm not even sure which character I'd request, but damn it's better than I expected for this release.
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>>20849155
Seems like they're going all out. They did hire steiner as the brand manager and all.
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>>20848915
I'm guessing as-of-yet unrevealed Pantheon characters are out of the equation. Goddamn it, I'd kill for one of the Demon Lords, so I guess I'll have to settle for Muzan if I win.
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>>20847277
>>20848760
Weren't Ahnenerbe users all given their weapon by Merc anyway? He would chose the most fitting one for them.
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>>20849913
> Weren't Ahnenerbe users all given their weapon by Merc anyway
Beatrice's sword is a family heirloom, Eleonore's Schwerer Gustav and Schrieber's Zündapp were presumably regular tools that the two used during their days as mortals, and Kei received her sword long after Mercurius and Reinhard departed. I suppose it could've all been arranged by Mercurius but I doubt he would care enough for that.
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>>20845517
>Kei
>strong
>>20847277
Relics have different affinity for different people, but looking at how Ren managed to use Beatrice's sword with another craving, and Yusa used Rusalka's relic, it's probably possible to use some relics with nearly any craving.
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>>20851070
Kei stands up to Reinhard while all the other LDOfags cower before him. She defeats Wilhelm despite being his junior with less than a quarter of his experience. She's functional despite being a huge baka. She's very strong.
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>>20851137
>Has to maintain his Briah when Ren, Rusalka, Kei and Cain are there
>Still can maintain his shit with the addition of Triffa, and the Battalion
>Get backstabbed by Triffa
>Only then does Kei win with a sneak attack
And that's without taking into account the narration making Wilhelm not killing her despite having hundreds of occasions to. The only reason she even stood up at then end was because of Bey willingly motivating her by talking about Beatrice.
But maybe you also think Shirou "won" against Bey and Ren agaisnt Rusalka in Kasumi's route.
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Today I learned there is an LN called "Dies irae: Song to the Witch". Did any of you read it? Is it good? Because I've been here for a while and I've never seen it mentioned.
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>>20851234
If you want to be that way then comparing strength doesn't matter since most of the story happened under Snek's Law anyway.
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>>20851234
>But maybe you also think Shirou "won" against Bey
Do you mean Kasumi's route? Because he definitely did win.
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>switching dev company AGAIN
>release will take atleast a year if they find a new one right now

lol
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>>20852596
Rusalka and Marilyn Monroe have a slut off.
If that sounds good to you go ahead and read it.
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>>20853415
>atleast a year
Far more, if they changed company and the "demo" they showed last time was roughly the state of the game then the chances are high that build was completely scrapped.
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>>20853306
no
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>>20853306
>O MY FOREKNOWLEDGE
>coveniently don't summon blood spikes continuously to skew Shirou
>just let me, the vampire, fight you on top of a burning church near a cross
>O MY DUST EXPLOSION
I mean, I like Dies very much, but many of Shirou's fights and most of Kasumi/Kei's route fights are some bullshit asspullery.
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how do you even get invested in chuuni fights

It's always so obvious when nobody is going to die because they need to save that for later in the game

and then you reach that point and know who wins anyway because they spent the whole game setting it up
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>>20854369
I




don't know





bro
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>>20854369
I love the spectacle of it. The powers themselves, and also how they're like a very violent and over the top form of character interaction beetween characters I enjoy.
I don't need someone dying every time or not knowing who is gonna win.
Talking about not knowing. The specifics of how it gets to the expected result are more unknown and part of the entertainment for me
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>>20854082
>most of Kasumi/Kei's route fights are some bullshit asspullery.
no most are in Marie/Rea routes
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>>20854369
We know the outcome not only because it's a VN, but also because Mercurius, the person we are explicitly told is behind everything, tells us that he's setting up everything for Marie and that Ren is going to win. I enjoy it anyway because the watching the characters' futile struggle and learning more about them is interesting.
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>>20854934
Well yeah, pretty much this. I mean, that's the whole point "blablabla the script sucks dicks blablabla the actors tho!!!! I LOVE MARIE!"
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>>20854082
I love both Wilhelm and Shirou but lol youre being buttblasted, Wil was being a cocky dick and got btfo by a guy without an Ahnenerbe
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>>20854934
>>20855090
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>>20857277
And I love both Wilhelm and Shirou but you're being dishonest, Shirou has some high level plot armor and a serious case of gary stu.
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>>20854369
I love the chuuni writing style, the music, the voice acting that give the character so much passion behind their motivations and struggles, is such a joy to watch.

The more it focuses on those things and less on SoL shit, the better.
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>>20857688
Poor little loser
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>>20853415
Only Cygames can save us
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>>20857919
Klab could also be a decent choice, Bleach Brave Souls is actually pretty good.
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>>20857830
It's funny, I looked up Acta est Fabula and Rusalka is actually the one with the most sex scenes.
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>>20858462
I'm not sure who the person who made that decision is but I do know that he's fucking based.
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>>20854369
good chuuni are not always predictable, sometime the antagonist dies by someone else or one of the characters dies etc. the development of the fight can have many twists even if you know the main character will survive, its not that difference than other media, you can predict a general outline, but not the content
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>>20852596
Rusalka and Beatirce are the Protagonists, so it can be only good.
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Does Naraka hate Muzan for killing his waifu?
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>>20857919
one of the companies that stopped development told light halfway through the project that

"we see no future for this game."
good look getting big companies on board after that + a failed anime.
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>>20859366
>"we see no future for this game."
Based
i got over the initial hype from the switch scenari and have went back to absolutely loathing the prospect of dies irae going mobage
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>>20859386
light is retarded for even releasing the prologue without having the game ready.
the series could have ended after every single mainline entry and there would have been little complaining because they all provide closure.
then they throw it all in the trash and go "the real ending awaits you after years of mobage grinding! please look forward to it!"
and now they are failing to complete the fucking game, and even if they manage to all the dev drama has only increased the already huge chance it'll crash and burn within months.
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>>20857524
yeah but shirou is badass and if it wasnt for his showing in kasumi's route i mightve dropped the VN
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>>20859366
source? kinda hope this is true
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>>20859405
was that "if Pantheon fails I'll release its story as a VN" thing from Masada actually real?
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>>20860408
It all depends on light and whereto they're willing to take a loss from all the shit that went into pantheon, two troubled development, what i assume to be an ungodly amount of character designs and etc.
And light is not a company to be trusted in general for shit like '07 and back in October
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>>20859366
>literally who company thinking they get to be picky
If they actually wanted to build a name for themselves, it would've been smarter to expand their portfolio with lesser known projects like Pantheon. They must have been expecting an FGO-tier jackpot, I guess.

>>20859386
I bet 5 bucks you'll start getting excited again when we begin getting news once more.

>>20860408
At the very least, Steiner confirmed it when he answered some questions in one of our threads some months ago.
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>>20860992
>I bet 5 bucks you'll start getting excited again when we begin getting news once more.
I'm dying before the year is over, so no.
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"My castle is cold and dark, lies at the ground of the world tree, in my realm, there are no heroes, only the end of dreams..."
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>>20859366
Steiner?
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>>20860957
IIRC they said all the assets are done, they just need a company that doesn't go full retard, SuperAppli didn't do shit and the other one they tried it with bailed on them, so I'm guessing they had no development costs for those two.
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>>20861752
They said development was going smoothly during the HLC stream when they showed the gameplay. Although word on nip sites said that shit fell through beforehand.
If that's true, light was lying to consumers, AGAIN.
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>>20861752
>IIRC they said all the assets are done,
>so I'm guessing they had no development costs for those two.
stop being silly
>>20862316
pretty much this
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>>20861439
Go on
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>>20862348
Who I am?
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Are there any VNs that are comparable to the Shinza Banshou stuff in terms of chuuni spectacle?
> inb4 F*te
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>>20862384
Demonbane is the closest I can think of
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I'm a bit late to the party, but if no one minds me giving my 2 cents on the Hajun vs Muzan clash:
>>20840483
>>20841910
I assume it's because people can't read shit and trust any translation they find without double-checking it. I remember seeing a "My hand was destroyed by itself" TL of this line in replies to one of the release day video tweets, though now that those are deleted, I can't be too sure.

Imagine seeing no difference between 潰す and 治す...
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>>20862425
You said literally nothing
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>>20862452
I was trying to say that the theory of Muzan getting his arm crushed by some Throne function most probably comes from a mistranslation around the time we only had bits and pieces of the scenario, so no one bothered to correct it.

The point of them being Naraka's puppets still stands, it's just that even if Hajun or Muzan slaughter everyone, they will probably just come back to life, so there's no point in blowing up their limbs in hopes that'd stop them.
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>>20862425
>I remember seeing a "My hand was destroyed by itself" TL of this line in replies to one of the release day video tweets
If it actually was like that, then it's pretty weird. Wasn't it Zack who translated some of those bits? I'm pretty sure he knows Japanese well enough.
>>20862384
There is a secret dies sequel.
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>>20862481
Eh, considering the overall hectic state all of us were in, I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely mistook one kanji for another.
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>>20862316
>>20862322
I mean, I'm guessing the ones making Pantheon don't get paid unless the product is delivered unless light paid them in advance, right? Isn't that how it usually works?
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I feel like, if pantheon ever comes out, the Muzan wanking will get quite insufferable.
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>>20862524
Reminder that the first Throne full of shitheads was unanimously in favor of everything he did.
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>>20862524
Stop thinking of it in terms of wank and it won't annoy you.
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>>20862316
Nah, I think things definitely fell through in december; remember Masada was still tweeting about Pantheon until late november, then he abruptly stopped. Honestly, I believe the most likely reason things fell through was thanks to a disagreement between light and the developers about how profits should be split. It's pure speculation on my part, of course, but it would make the most sense.
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>>20862384
the thing you mentioned and shinza are pretty much the only thing when it comes to "grandeur" chuuni shit. atleast before the mushroom fucked it all up.

must chuuni VNs you can find are just wish fulfillment with self-insert MCs and cute girls.
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If they had decided to develop the game inhouse they would probably be almost done by now.
2d gacha games really aren't difficult to code if you have prior experience, and going by FGOs horrible android port you don't even need to opitimize. gameplay is gonna be shit regardless so no point in having game designers on the team.
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>>20862898
They apparently chimped out because they didn't know shit about mobage.
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>>20862481
>tfw can understand most of what's being said in that screenshot
>never seriously studied Japanese aside from some grammar and looking kanji up on rikaichan
Maybe I should grab a text hooker and start reading simple untranslated stuff. It would take some time, but maybe I can become JOP, too.
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>>20862425
So can you explain what actually happened? Hajun blew up his arm or the Throne did? Is 潰す or 治す the correct one
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>>20863789
>潰す or 治す
Look at the image for god's sake
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>>20863797
My bad I was looking for a す instead of scanning for kanji and there wasn't one so I thought it was a different image.
So he's saying the arm healed on it's own, after Hajun destroyed it I assume?
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>>20863815
Yup.
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>>20797643
alucard is that (you)?
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>>20862384
Other light VNs - Senshinkan, Silverio, Zero Infinity, Vermilion.
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>https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1097151331700260864
So what would you request anon?
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>>20868175
Casual-wear Satanael.
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>>20868175
Spinne dabbing.
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fuck light
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>>20868175
Beatrice and Kei in Bikini
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>>20868175
Ren.
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>>20868175
reinhard prob, maybe valeria
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What would it take for these retards to release Pantheon as a VN instead?
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>>20870490
>he doesn't realise the state of pantheons development isn't actually a meta-commentary
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>>20870490
they only have the first 2 chapters written anyway and aren't working on more till they get a new dev.
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>>20868175
Helga.
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https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1098532515181199361
IkaBey is 20 bucks.
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>>20871294
It was like, twice as expensive when it released in Japan.
That's pretty good, even when you consider that Jap companies jack their prices to take advantage of their hyper-loyal consumer base.
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>>20835912
Stalker was already an eldritch god and he got flattened.
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>>20868175
I’m autistic enough to try and request my waifu in an LDO uniform even though she’s entirely unrelated to anything Dies Irae.
Failing that, Trifa.
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>>20871675
Im talking about a real one.
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>>20871972
You can't just say that and not tell us who your waifu is.
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>>20871294
>20 bucks
>for 6 hours
that's a epic meme my dude
i was going to pirate it anyway but now i won't feel bad about it
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>>20868175
I like the idea of requesting an unrevealed Pantheon character, but if that's not allowed, I'd be fine with requesting a character we haven't seen for a while, like Yakou or Ast (with Satanael?).
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>>20868175
The Hadou gods as high school students with a little panel of Hajun being a Hikki hidden in his room.
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>>20868175
A picture of Kazumi beating up Muzan to own the Muzankeks.
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>>20871294
day 1 pirate
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>>20871430
Nice try Steiner, other full length vns go for that price and I still pirate them. I'm not going to feel bad about pirating this "short side story"
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>>20872157
Phosphophyllite
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>>20862358
death
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>>20872841
You were never gonna buy it anyway so it's not a lost sale.
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>>20873808
Damn, this could be pretty good actually.
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First 20 minutes of IkaBey are out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jis-VQc4xxQ
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>>20874370
So, could any JOP with some free time check it out to see how's the translation?
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>>20874465
I get where you coming from and it's good to have multiple opinions, but : it's 4chan mate. You will already have the fact people translate things differently or don't agree on certain meaning/ turn of phrases but it's more than likely they're weebs who don't like localization and tends to really not be objective to outright lie.
So I would advice to take any opinions you get from here with a grain of salt and not take it as gospel.
But that's just me of course, you do you.
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>>20874465
Speaking purely about the voiced lines, it's decent. It has a couple of questionable translations, but I'd say generally it's fine. I don't have enough time to dig up the original script and compare the narration, maybe someone else would be willing to do so.

Also, it's pretty nice that they decided to do the countdown. Look forward to Eleonore on day 4, that one is the best.
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>>20874564
What's questionable?
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>>20874564
Welp, that's good to hear. Gotta wonder if all those people still holding onto grudges against Steiner are going to let it go now. Thanks anon.
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>>20874579
Like translating 馬鹿な女さ as "stupid bitch" or いい女 as "a fine piece of ass". I get that it's to make Bey's speech manner more distinct, and Bey is surely not the most polite character, but I don't really understand a reason for making it sound even more crude.
But then again, I'm not a professional translator, so my opinion is fairly worthless here.
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>>20874608
I'm an EOP and even I found some of the translations in DI odd. Like changing Bakasumi to Twitsumi, at first I didn't even get what they were trying to convey with the latter. I'm not a huge fan of localisations a a whole.
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>>20874608
To be fair as someone who doesn't know Japanese, the way he's speaking in this preview felt consistent with the Wilhelm I know from Dies irae. So if some terms are coming out cruder, it matches up well with what I'd expect from him.
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>>20874465
Uhhhh, I don't really have much time but I'm going to have to be honest, I'm probably not going to like a lot of the translation since I'm a literal autist who learned a language to read porn games. My biggest gripe with the translation from the original Dies, from the parts that I saw, was how the translators tried too hard to make the script more grandiose in a way which bothered me but you could put that on once again, my autism. Also, using profanity as a way to translate crass speech. But that's my personal autism at work, and i'm probably not the intended audience.
Also, kinda disappointing that they gave up on ruby texts.
Kiss in the Dark = 闇の贈物 The same ruby text which accompanies Wilhelm's Qlithopth Backial, which was what he was referring to when he said that he had something with the same name as the cocktail in his soul. That's not something that would got picked up in the translation.
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>>20874633
I picked up on that just fine at 0:42 and 17:44, though.
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>>20874617
> I'm not a huge fan of localisations a a whole.
But that's not localization, it's translation. Baka is a japanese word so it has to be translated. If you didn't know what twit means then blame your knowledge of english.
I'm not trying to be agressive but that kind of comments tend to rile me up.
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>>20874647
Fair enough, maybe I was overthinking things.
Anyway the translation's reception comes down to the people who will actually read it. Everything I wrote is my own opinion so others will surely feel different about it.
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>>20874668
Nah it's cool. Good to have your opinion, thanks. As an EOP it read pretty good in English and Wilhelm sounded suitably assholish, but I have no frame of reference. From what you're saying it sounds like there might be an issue with tone, but the meaning of the words is still there? In which case it sounds fine to me.
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>>20874689
>From what you're saying it sounds like there might be an issue with tone, but the meaning of the words is still there?
Pretty much.
I'm going to use the other anon's example where Wilhelm uses いい女 to describe Dina
What he's saying is that she's good woman in the sense that she has piqued his interest hence why he agreed to do her interview
What they translated it to was that she's a fine piece of ass
They both fundamentally mean the same thing, but the tone is clearly different. I suppose the translator felt the need to overcompensate with Wilhelm's lines in order to convey his colloquial Japanese. Like I said, it's something that would probably bother a JOP but I doubt EOPs care about that type of stuff.
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>>20873839
More or lesser correect.

Hel
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How much Screentime have Eleonore & Beatrice in IkaBey?
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>>20875436
Why don't you read and find out?
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>>20875436
Eleonore gets decent amount I. Mercurius and Beatrice get the most out of all the LDOs though.
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>>20873808
which phos? i'm partial to long hair laphos, shame it didn't last long
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>>20874617
I never understood why they didn't translate it as Kasumidiot or Dumbassumi
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>>20874496
Sure thing, Steiner
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Been a while since I posted here. That Satanael and Muzan TL was interesting. Any more news.
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>>20874633
>make the script more grandiose
You know, I think it might just be a Steiner's thing. I mean, a pretty simple Taigi's line about paintings on the NN's hello lady page became like two times more flowery translated.
I'm not sure if it's such a bad thing though, at least for dies or shinza in general. I've read dies both in Japanese (though a long, long while ago) and in English, and the general feel I got was roughly the same.
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HLC starts in less than an hour, get ready for a whole lot of Campus news and not much else.
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>>20874608
top fucking kek feels good knowing japanese and not having to put up with retarded "translators"
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>>20874650
hello steiner.
making a simple 女 into bitch just because you want the character to talk even more rough isn't a translation.
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>>20876830
Good thing you can read Japanese and don't have to worry about these things, then. You're not his target audience.
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>>20876830
That's kind of stupid, though. There's no such thing as 1:1 mapping of words in translation. You couldn't just translate every 女 as "woman", you'd have to take character and scene context into account.
From what it looks like, that's just what he did here.
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>>20876745
so what happened
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>>20877256
Nothing.
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>>20877256
Campus only.
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>>20874496
>it's more than likely they're weebs who don't like localization and tends to really not be objective to outright lie
Except that the 3 JOPs in this general have been nothing but cool dudes who translated stuff for us and answered any questions we've ever had regarding Shinza and Senshinkan.
I guess Steiner is going to be stalking this place and shilling his work
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>>20877682
Is there any proof he's actually here? He's said on twitter he doesn't really come to 4chan anymore.
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>>20877687
He has reposted some stuff from around here, so even if he isn't, his friends are.
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>>20877733
You're making it sound a bit like a conspiracy. It's not unusual to think the translator of Dies irae might be friends with some fans of Shinza, and those fans might come here.
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>>20877750
Yeah, that's basically what I meant, didn't mean to sound all paranoic.
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>>20877687
With the way Steiner used to be
I wouldn't be surprised if he did come here to shill his work under the guise of anonymity
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>>20877772
What would he be shilling, though? Fans of the series are going to be in this thread so there'd be nothing to gain from shilling to an audience that is already captive.
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>>20877779
The quality of the translation, like he did in numerous other threads to people who were already fans of the series.
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>>20877791
I am the one who you think is Steiner, and I'm acting like that because I come from /a/. I'm tired of translation drama bullshit where everyone shit on a perfectly fine translation because a random, most likely a weeb that wants baka to stay untranslated, who knows a bit of japanese starts bashing it when he has no idea how translation/localization work.
I'm sorry if I made it sounds like otherwise but that's all there is to it.
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>>20878099
You need to chill, you're taking shitposting way too seriously, you need to ignore it.
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Beatrice and Rusalka need own Spiin-Off VN....
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>>20878485
based incest vampire
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Say what you want about Steiner but he's dedicated. Apparently he financed the weekly IkaBey countdown videos out of his own pocket.
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>>20879331
>Apparently he financed the weekly IkaBey countdown videos out of his own pocket
>yo i'll give you 15 bucks if you translate those few voice lines
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>>20879341
I assumed he translated them and paid for the videos to be made.Even if it's only 20 bucks it's more than some PR people would do on their own initiative. Guy clearly cares.
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>>20879331
It's okay, Steiner, you're a cool guy.
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She fucked Kei's grandma
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Guys stop talking shit about Steiner he's a really cool bloke, great translator and I've heard that he has a massive dick. Anyone who talks shit about his translation doesn't know Japanese. Also if there are any actual mistakes Steiner didn't translate it, it was someone else, but if it was good it was him
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Mercurius dressed like pic related



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