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>What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read this shit some damn time:
https://4chanint.fandom.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Totally not a virus, but rather, lots of free books on languages!:
https://mega.nz/#F!x4VG3DRL!lqecF4q2ywojGLE0O8cu4A

Check this pastebin for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua

Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:
>>>/t/language

FAQ U:
>How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects?
Read the damn wiki
>Should I learn lang Y so I can learn lang X?
No
>What is the most useful language?
Slovakian Gothic
>What language should I learn?
Celtic Cree

Old thread >>106675099

Old challenge >>106711343
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Currently 2 years into german and am enjoying it so far. I can read most things well enough but am still working on listening comprehension. Ive been thinking about picking up a 2nd language. I am a big fan of history, so would greece be a good language to try out?
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>>106755763
Learn Macedonian
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>>106755681
Is it worth to learn Esperanto?
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How does one even learn arabic? I've learned the alphabet and a couple of phrases but I feel like giving up. I haven't even gotten to the grammar yet. What do?
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>>106755870
How long have you been trying to learn it?
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>>106755972
Like a month or so, I don't remember exactly because I also learn other languages
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>>106755834
Any good places to learn it? Duolingo doesnt have it which is why i went for greek
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>>106755854
No.
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>>106755854
I dont think so, it doesnt seem like there are enough people who speak it to make it useful, nor media and books
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>>106755854
>Is it worth to learn [insert special snowflake conlang for autists]
no
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>>106755834
zošto bi učil makedonski?
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>>106755854
Poor man's Latin
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What level of profiecency or fluency should you switch to a second language?

For me since I value quantity over quality i'd say B1 level in order to have the most time to study as many languages out there
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using duolingo and memrise for russian. any third free source i should use?
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my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife
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>>106756066
>I don't remember exactly because I also learn other languages
sounds like a winning formula
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>>106757779
Michel Thomas. Pimsleur. Read the wiki.
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Hey everyone. I wanna share again the Japanese language learning materials the Japanese teacher from my university gave us.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7z925are8hwa7/Jap_materials
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>>106758884
upload to mega pls , mediafire is being a nigger
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>>106758126
based and chinopilled
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Got the achievement!
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>>106759334
Congrats! Which language?
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>>106758805
Those repeat after me courses seem stupid to me. Can it even improve your listening and speaking skills. It seems just useless cramming and you don't learn to organically learn to build sentences or speak in everyday manner. It is better to do role play with someone.
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>>106759437
French with a bit of Russian. How far is your streak? And what languages are you learning?
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>>106759577
I've got a 31-day streak and I'm learning French and Italian.
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>>106759688
How far are you along your tree? I am bit farther than half way?
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>>106759763
not him
but i had a friend in high school from south africa who could speak english afrikaans dutch zulu french german and italian. cool lad. is this common there?
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>>106760172
Generally white Afrikaners can speak English/Afrikaans, English people are monolingual generally. Africans can speak many languages usually, afrikaans ,English and native language. Generally speaking the majority of Saffers are trilingual. But desu languages like Xhosa and Zulu are more like dialects than real languages. But it's pretty easy for Afrikaners to learn Dutch. Most Afrikaans teachers have at least two years experience of Dutch. But yea your friend is rare but I think it's more common here to be polygot than other countries.
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translation challenge.

>mmm yes chino chan yes very good while I was being challenged by the Chino

>please chino your scent is so fragrant let alone your taste must be superior
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has anyone here gotten a good grasp at how to speak a language when learning it but still found it difficult to understand other people using it?
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>>106758884
>Minna no Nihongo
>Genki
wow it's fucking nothing
You can get those anywhere for free extremely easily, you dumb faggot.
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>>106760603
opposite for me. can understand anyone talk about anything but struggle to string a sentence together myself. probably just need a gf
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>>106756313
Why would you want to learn Bulgarian? You said you were interested in Greece right? If you're not the same anon then forgive me but I'm just letting you know that "Macedonian" isn't a distinct language. It's almost identical to Bulgarian.
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>>106760964
Can I ask you a favor, file?
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>>106761168
Sure why not
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>>106761522
Please check this out and tell me what you think:
>>106714138
>>106719649
>>106719827
>>106720052
Much obliged.
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>>106732261
No, i'm in high school.
>inb4 reported for underage
Calm the fuck down, i'm 18 and i will finish high school at 20 years of age
It's not even a high school, it's a "technical middle school".
Apparently people on 4chan can't comprehend that the education works differently in other countries.
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>>106761765
no one cares retard
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>>106760535
Seek help
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>>106761765
He literally asked me
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>>106761765
Thanks for making me feel old
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Why is it so difficult to find somebody from japan who learns russian?
I'd like to find a partner who studies russian, is native japanese, and knows english at least at the B2 level (preferably better)
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>>106762406
Why do you need your partner to know English?
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>>106761605
>Easy
>What day is today?
ΤΙ μέρα είναι σήμερα?
>I have no choice.
Δεν έχω άλλη επιλογή
>We are good friends.
Είμαστε kαλοί φίλοι
>This boy has no job.
Αυτό το αγόρι δεν έχει kαμία δουλειά
>Your hand feels cold.
Το χέρι σου είναι kρύο

>>Medium
>Do you have any suggestions for me?
Έχεις kαμιά πρόταση για μένα;
>Did you miss the bus?
Έχασες το λεωφορείο;
>It's against the law.
Είναι παράνομο (I would say it like this cuz it's easier than the other way)
>He invited me to dinner yesterday.
Χτες με προσkάλεσε για βραδινό.
>Suppose it rains, what shall we do?
Στην υπόθεση ότι θα βρέξει, τι να kάνουμε;

>>Hard
>Certain fungi are much better at extracting phosphorus from the soil than plants.
Ορισμένοι μύkητες είναι πολύ kαλύτεροι στην εξαγωγή φωσφόρου από το χώμα σε σχέση με τα φυτά

If you have any other questions tell me. I wrote these based on how I would personally say them so I didn't try to translate them literally, but in a way that sounded natural in Greek
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>Another weekend of social obligations that mean I won't be able to study much
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>>106762708
>Στην υπόθεση ότι θα βρέξει, τι να kάνουμε;
*τι θα kάνουμε;
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>>106762708
I appreciate this mate, I should have been more clear though. My question was whether my corrections/suggestions were as wrong as the Burger made them out to be.
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>>106762842
Well they weren't huge mistakes but they would be noticeable nonetheless.
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>>106755763
Learn Bulgarian
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>why yes, I am learning Scots. How did you know?
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>>106762970
Ok :).
I don't mean to sound like I know better than you (just trying to understand why I'm wrong on my reasoning), but doesn't να βρέξει suggest that we're talking about a situation where it is no longer raining?
And the wikipedia link (if you correct the kappa in it) is fairly clean on the fact that τελιkό νι is always retained for τον.
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>>106762688
Because I'm not good enough at japanese to understand something, and they could be likewise
It's more convenient than resorting to ooga booga ways of explaining difficult stuff, like "A bad, B good"
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>>106763052
Scots? You mean bastardised English with a bit of borrowed Gaelic in it?
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>>106760964
I am interested in learning greek. I never said i was interested in macedonian necessarily. I wanted to check it out but im not good with slavic languages nor was it the language of the ancient macedonians
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>>106763180
Yeah you're right about that. Αόριστος is about something that happened in the past and it stopped. In my example though, I didn't use αόριστο but μέλλοντα συνοπτιkό (at least that's how it's said when I looked it up. We weren't taught about this in school). "φαντάσου να βρέχει/βρέξει" are both correct though. Regarding the νι, you're right on that one. Your biggest mistake was saying ποια μέρα. That's only used for sentences like "ποια μέρα θα πάμε παραλία;". As you can see, I don't know grammar perfectly but neither will any other Greeks know it perfectly. It's not a problem if you make some mistakes while talking, only the big mistakes are are a problem
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My motivator gave up and only got 50xp today. Sad
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>>106763686
Get good then. If you can't even explain basic concepts with the language you have no reason to be having entire conversations with people.
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>>106763734
YIKE!
I guess I must educate you. Scots developed out of Middle Anglic and so did English. I could just as well say English is bad Scots.
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>>106763791
Alright I understood you now. I would recommend learning Greek only if you're REALLY interested in Greece. It's not an easy language and has many confusing rules and grammar, not to mention the fact that it's quite useless. If you like learning the language though, go for it
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>>106761959
How
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>>106763920
I can explain shit but in english I can do that while asleep, but in japanese I'll have to take 10 minutes to research and find shit
Even then if it's just japanese-russian exchange it's still very difficult to find somebody
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>>106763971
Yes, im really interested and wouldnt pick it up only to drop it sometime later. I would like to read ancient stories like the illiad in the original texts as there is much meaning lost in translation i would presume.
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>>106755681
Great, great picture, OP. I'm going to make it my wallpaper and gaze at it for half an hour because it's just so beautiful. I can see you're an individual of great taste who likes to share beautiful and precious images with the rest of the world. Insane that there's so much negativity on this website when there's well-crafted drawings with true meaning and purpose like those to cheer us up. I challenge anyone to even try and think of an argument against posting the mutated feels man on every single board and every single thread. Protip: you can't.
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>>106763950
None of that changes the fact that it's just English with Gaelic in it. It's equivalent to me learning Portuñol and claiming to have learned another language. If you want to be a larper so bad go learn a real language like Scottish Gaelic instead, then at least you'll be able to talk about it without being laughed at.
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>>106763833
Thanks again.

>>106763971
>>106764207
>It's not an easy language
Perhaps not the easiest, but I'm sure it would be much easier for an Anglo to learn than some Slavic language. I've never studied French, but it looks much harder to me...

Greek vocabulary is super interesting and fun to learn, noun/adjective/pronoun declension fairly simple, but verb conjugation can get tricky sometimes. Pronunciation is kid stuff, even though Greeks themselves sometimes talk a little bit too fast.

>I would like to read ancient stories like the illiad in the original texts as there is much meaning lost in translation i would presume
The above applies to modern Greek. If reading the Iliad is something you'd want to do, then good luck, because you're in for a world of hurt. Ancient Greek is an entirely different beast in terms of Grammar.
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who are some comfy language youtubers
for me, it's langfocus
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>>106764351
Thanks for the insight. Perhaps once i become proficient in modern greek i may teach myself the ancient form. But thats likely many years away
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>>106764207
Ancient Greek compared to modern Greek is almost like a different language but if you want to read the classic Greek epics as close as possible to the original text, modern Greek is just fine. I wish you luck on your journey learning Greek φίλε μου
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>>106764292
>NO, NO NO! THAT ISNT A SCOTTISH LANGUAGE! AND EVEN THOUGH NONE OF YOUR ANCESTORS HAVE SPOKE GAELIC YOU SHOULD REALLY LEARN THAT!
>NO! YOUR ANCESTORS HAVENT SPOKE ANGLIC AND SCOTS FOR THE PAST 1500 YEARS! THEY SPOKE GAELIC UNTIL 1900!
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>>106764451
Every now and again NativLang's video gets recommended to me and they're always interesting.

>>106764508
That's a good plan I think. You'll be able to get enjoyment out of modern Greek in the meantime and it should be (I think?) a good base to build upon.
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>>106764549
Well...Scots is a germanic Germanic...Scots are not a Germanic people... Seems like a cover up, make you feel uncucked while you in fact are still cucked, that sort of thing
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>>106764545
Thank you
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>>106764892
Technically Gaels are German, they were Celtic Germans who emigrated here after the Roman invasion.
But us lowlanders have spoke Cumbric for a short time and Scots/ Anglican for longer than Scotland has existed, the language was literally created in this land.
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Make a challenge already. We should be obligated to make a challenge within the first 10 posts. If we do it this way where we wait until 150 damn posts, we actually get less responses from native speakers.
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>>106766003
challenge: pull my foot out of your ass
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I would have made the challenge back then but I was banned.
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>>106761765
sick do you want to join our discord server lad
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>>106766059
I wish I could join the Discord server, but I imagine I'm quite useless in this context as a native English speaker. Well, I guess I could help out French learners but I'm not fluent.
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>>106766053
Make it now then. It's not too late.
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>>106766173
why would it be useless we have plenty of americans and some australians in there
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Learning standard Kalaallisut and Scots. Thoughts?
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>>106766264
thanks for replying
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Can someone set out a guide on learning ebonics?
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>>106766427
yeah
the it's not hard

basically just say "FUCK WHITES how are you today?"
or "hello, FUCK WHITES, bro"
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>>106766194
My challenges always suck, but I guess.
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>>106766264
Good, don't know much about them but you seem to enjoy learning. That's all I got as a reply :)
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>>106766260
Everyone already knows English there, presumably.
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>>106766514
How can you even be bad at making challenges? All you have to do is type a couple of gradually complex sentences and grade them by difficulty.
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>>106766542
thanks BRO
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>>106766264
>Kalaallisut

You're triggering my NAIL boner
Tell me more about this experience
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>>106766554
thats not the only point of it lol
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>>106766849
>Tell me more about this experience
He learned to say "hi" and "thanks".
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>>106766940
Well that's more than most white men ever did
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Challenge

Easy
>Excuse me, do you have any forks?
>I like this pink and white dress.
>Do you have this dress in a bigger size?
>I don't want a car, I want a truck because I am a man.

Medium
>Why yes, I do prefer to order my steaks well-done, how could you tell?
>NO!!!!! WHY WOULD YOU ORDER A DISGUSTING RUBBERY STEAK? YOU BELONG IN HELL, YOU MONSTER!!!
>For me, it's pizza with pineapple and ham. Hawaiian pizza is an amazing invention; only fussy eaters with the palate of an eight year old can't appreciate the complex mix of flavors.
>NO!!!!! YOU RUINED A PERFECTLY FINE PIZZA, JUST SO YOU COULD FEEL SUPERIOR TO EVERYONE!! I AM GOING BACK TO REDDDIT WHERE I CAN'T SEE ANYMORE OF THESE WRONG OPINIONS!!!!!

Hard
>Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
>Jupiter is the fifth planet from the Sun and the largest in the Solar System. It is a giant planet with a mass one-thousandth that of the Sun, but two-and-a-half times that of all the other planets in the Solar System combined.
>When viewed from Earth, Jupiter can reach an apparent magnitude of −2.94, bright enough for its reflected light to cast shadows, and making it on average the third-brightest natural object in the night sky after the Moon and Venus.
(You have to write out the number including the negative sign in letters.)
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>>106767339
Wait, I think I should have said *any more, not anymore here.
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>>106767339
I take it back, that's fucking awful
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>>106767547
Shouldn't have asked me to write it, retards.
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>>106767339
>Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
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>>106764219
Have sex incel
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>>106766041
Kek
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>>106768024
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo
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>>106766508
Replace bro with nigga and speak using more melanin.
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>meet a Norwegian, have a conversation without noticing she’s speaking Norwegian
>she tells me she’s Norwegian, stop understanding what she says
Wtf
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>>106767339
Autistic canadians are a rare sighting, you’re so cute ^^
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>>106768530
Summoning the "Norwegian and Swedish are dialects of the same language" anon
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>>106768719
>Autistic canadians are a rare sighting,
Really? Are we really? Our entire culture is autistic.
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>>106768769
Well I mean yeah typical canadians on 4chan seem autistic but you were more like an american silly boy there
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>>106767339
Tschuldigung, gibt es hier Gabeln?
Mir gefällt dieses pink-weiße Kleid.
Haben Sie dieses Kleid auch eine Nummer größer?
Ich will kein Auto, Ich will 'n LKW, weil ich ein Mann bin.

Ja freilich bestelle ich meine Steaks am liebsten well-done, woher wusstest du das?
NEIN!!!!! WER BESTELLT DENN BITTE SO EIN LABBRIGES STEAK? DU GEHÖRST IN DIE HÖLLE, DU MONSTER!!!
Mein persönlicher Favorit ist Pizza mit Ananas und Schinken. Pizza Haiwaii ist eine großartige Erfindung; nur pingelige Esser mit dem Geschmackssinn eines Achtjährigen wissen diese komplexe Geschmackskombination nicht zu schätzen.
NEIN!!!!! DU HAST EINE EINWANDFREIE PIZZA RUINIERT, NUR DAMIT DU DICH BESSER ALS ALLE ANDEREN FÜHLEN KANNST. ICH GEHE WIEDER ZURÜCK AUF REDDDIT WO ICH KEINE FALSCHEN MEINUNGEN MEHR SEHEN MUSS!!!!!

Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel
Der Jupiter ist der von der Sonne aus gesehen fünfte Planet und der größte des Sonnensystems. Er ist ein Riesenplanet. Seine Masse entspricht einem Tausendstel der Sonne, ist aber zweieinhalbmal so groß wie die aller übrigen Planeten im Sonnensystems zusammen.
Von der Erde aus gesehen kann der Jupiter eine scheinbare Helligkeit von -2,94 erreichen, was so hell ist, dass vom ihm reflektiertes Licht Schatten wirft. Damit ist der Planet nach dem Mond und der Venus der dritthellste natürliche Körper am Nachthimmel.
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>>106769147
>Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel Büffel
Grammatically incorrect. See >>106768479
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>>106769356
I know about the meme bro.
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>>106769402
Yeah what’s your point huh huh
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>>106760734
quit being a nigger
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>>106769597
>moortugese calling me a nigger
oh ha WOW it's gonna be one of those days huh
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>>106767339
Gabh mo leithscéal, an bhfuil aon fhoirc agat?
Is maith liom an gúna bándearg agus bán seo.
An bhfuil an gúna seo i méid níos mó agat?
Níor mhaith liom carr, ba mhaith liom leoraí mar is fear mé.


Had to take the concept of "in a size" literally because I have no idea how to phrase that otherwise
Truck fucked me too because in context it clearly means a pickup truck but apparently yuros don't have that term? And desu idk if "lorry" means the same thing
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>socialize all day
>continuu praten met mensen die een relatie hebben en geen echte problemen
>moet nog socialiseren
ik wil dood oetz
ik moet echt uit Europa of tenminste uit West-Europa dit is hel ik wil gewoon een vd
gelukkig kan ik uiteindelijk van mijn pak af

maar ik moet zeggen, Zweden zijn minder normaaltjes dan Nederlanders
kaasvreters zijn officieel turbonormaaltjes allemaal
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>>106767339
>>Excuse me, do you have any forks?
E iai lau tui fa'amolemole?
>>I like this pink and white dress.
'Ou te fiafia 'i le ofutino pīniki ma pa'epa'e lenā
>>I don't want a car, I want a truck because I am a man.
Ou te lē fia 'i se ta'avale, ou te fiafia 'i le loli
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Do you all usually fully complete a single duolingo lesson before starting another, or do you do multiple at once?
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>>106771325
I don't do duolingo because I'm not a soycuck.
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any non-monkeys care to answer?
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>>106767339
>Excuse me, do you have any forks?
請問你有沒有叉子?
>I like this pink and white dress.
我喜歡這件粉和白色的連衣裙。
>Do you have this dress in a bigger size?
你有更大的連衣裙嗎?
>I don't want a car, I want a truck because I am a man.
我不要一輛汽車,我要一輛卡車因爲我是男人。
>Why yes, I do prefer to order my steaks well-done, how could you tell?
對,我喜歡吃全熟牛扒,你怎麼知道?
Why are there two different terms for steak in Chinese - 牛扒/牛排?
>NO!!!!! WHY WOULD YOU ORDER A DISGUSTING RUBBERY STEAK? YOU BELONG IN HELL, YOU MONSTER!!!
不可以啊!!!!!爲什麽你點這麽噁心的牛扒?像橡膠一樣。你屬於地獄裏面,你妖怪!!!
>For me, it's pizza with pineapple and ham. Hawaiian pizza is an amazing invention; only fussy eaters with the palate of an eight year old can't appreciate the complex mix of flavors.
對我來說,我喜歡比薩跟菠蘿和火腿。夏威夷的比薩是很棒的發明;只有挑食的人才了解不了夏威夷比薩的複雜的各種口味。他們的味覺跟八歲小孩兒的差不多
This one doesn't belong in medium.
>NO!!!!! YOU RUINED A PERFECTLY FINE PIZZA, JUST SO YOU COULD FEEL SUPERIOR TO EVERYONE!! I AM GOING BACK TO REDDDIT WHERE I CAN'T SEE ANYMORE OF THESE WRONG OPINIONS!!!!!
不可以啊!!!!! 你浪費了一份不錯的比薩就因爲你想感覺比別人優越!!我回去REDDIT,在那兒我念不了錯的意見!!!!!
>Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
水牛城的水牛被別的水牛城的水牛欺負了,可是他們也是欺負另外的水牛城的水牛。
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>>106770598
>And desu idk if "lorry" means the same thing
A lorry is equivalent to pic related, it cannot be used in the context of a pickup truck in English at least, don't know about Gaelic though.
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>>106771531
nobody who's serious about learning a language uses soylingo
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>>106772050
it can be useful for vocab desu
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>>106769743
The moor joke never fails to make me laugh

>>106771531
>>106772050
Based

>>106771531
Cringe
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>>106772493
what?
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>>106772050
Why? apart from you trying to feel superior?
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>>106773260
Lmao nice comeback soy. Duolingofags literally think half an hour of studying per day is "Insane", if that isn't not taking language learning seriously then your mom is a whore.
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>>106773477
So you're triggered by some strawman who you see as inferior to you? it's not as if duolingo actively harms your learning, it's not everything though
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>>106773550
What is the strawman here? Or are you trying to tell me people who use Duolingo aren't majorly mouth-breathing retards who think accumulating virtual good-boy points and playing a matching game for 30 minutes a day is a valid language learning method?
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>>106773752
You answered your own question pretty well there
Good job, hue
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>>106755870
Maybe start studying the grammar you brainlet
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>>106755854
Esperanto is only useful for the free hospitality service for traveling and to make friends at your local Esperanto club
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>>106766059
Well, yesterday i finished my adventure with german, as it's discontinued in 4th grade. But i can join anyway, maybe i'll ironically learn the most german after being done with it in school.
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>>106773903
I don't think you understand. That was a rhetorical question. You can look it up if you don't know what it means. Basically, it means there's nothing be answered here. I was saying that people who use duolingo are human potatoes, that's all, plain and clear. You didn't even have to respond to it and make yourself look stupid. You just had to soak the facts in: duolingo is retarded and ineffective. Then you can proceed masturbate to your soy green owl while you ritualistically sit on your chair for 30 minutes (or maybe that's too INSANE XDDDD for you) and play a matching game for lobotomised 5-year-olds, not being able to reflect on your own lifestyle choices because that is precisely what you are, a lobotomised 5-year-old. Which is precisely Duolingo's target market anyway.
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>>106774276
I think there's only one person making himself look stupid here m8
And it's got nothing to do with duolingo
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>>106773240
Duolingo is ass. It’s interface just makes people more satisfied with ‘learning.’
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>>106774276
Heh
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>NOOOOO stop criticising muh green language bird!!!!!
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>>106774276
quit being a bitch and stop derailing the thread

>>106767339
>Excuse me, do you have any forks?
извинитe, y тeбя ecть вилки?
>I like this pink and white dress.
мнe нpaвитcя этo poзoвo-бeлoe плaтьe.
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>>106755854
No.

It was invented by the elite as a language for dumb slaves.
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>>106767339
ITALIANO
Facile
>Scusami, hai quache forchette?
>Mi piace queso vestito rosa e bianco
>Hai questo vestito in una taglia piu grande?
>Non voglio esto auto - voglio un camion perche sono un uomo

Medio
>Perche, si, preferisco ordinare mi bistecche ben fatte, come potresti direlo?

ESPANOL
Duro
>Júpiter es la quinto planeta desde el sol y el más grande en la sistema solar. Es una planeta enorme con un masa una milésima eso del sol pero dos y medio veces que de las otras planetas en la sistema solar combinado
>Cuando se ve desde la tierra, Júpiter puede alcanzar un magnitudo aparente de ~2.94, suficientemente brillante para su luz reflectado echarse sombres y haciendolo, en promedio, el tercero más brillante objecto natural en el cielo del noche siguiendo la luna y venus
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>duolingo bad
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>>106760603
Spanish has a ton of unintelligible accents.

What Spanish speaking counties give uncommon Spanish or non Spanish names?

I've been dealing with many of them lately.

Why can't you have something simple likr Juan Gomez for fucks sake?
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>>106774013
gimme your name and i'll get you in, there's no public invite
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Duolingo is the only thing I can get into a new language fast with.
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>>106775226
>duolingo GOOD
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>>106755870
Its don't
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>>106775291
Dear discordfags, please stop trying to kill this thread.
>>106775322
Then you're stupid.
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>>106775387
>le based krashenpill
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>>106775470
Or maybe I'm smart for being able to use an ineffective program so efficiently.
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>>106775470
most active members of this thread are in the discord, hope you realise that
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>>106775533
No, that just means you're wasting your IQ points on a highly inefficient method because you're too lazy to find a better programme.
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>>106775573
no wonder the thread dies because you discord trannies ruined it
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Guys, I want to improve my english grammar. Can you suggest me sources?
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>>106772027
No.

Lorry can refer to what we call in the States, a straight truck.
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>>106774690
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>>106775657
or maybe it's just more convenient to be able to ask people directly, dont be a pussy
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>>106775180
>Scusami, hai quache forchette?
"qualche forchetta"
>Mi piace queso vestito
"questo", but you got it right in the sentence below so i guess it was a typo
>Non voglio esto auto
"questa auto" (esto is spanish i think)
But to preserve the meaning of the original it should be "Non voglio un'auto"
>Perche, si
We don't use perchè that way
If you want a word to use as an initial exclamation like how the original uses "why" you can say "ma"
"Ma sì"
>preferisco ordinare mi bistecche ben fatte
"le mie bistecche ben cotte"
>come potresti direlo?
"come lo sapevi?" or "come facevi a saperlo?"

Also, "più", "sì" and "perchè" need an accent at the end
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>>106775322
It doesn’t properly teach grammar. I think their idea might be to make picking up the grammar intuitive but they really just don’t cover it well.
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>>106775834
Yes, esto is Spanish and I didn't even use it right; it should have been este. It's very difficult not to mix up the two languages because they're so similar. It was bound to happen at some point as hard as I tried not to mix the two

I'm aware of the accents but it's more convenient just to skip them lel
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>>106775291
I never used discord though, I'll have to make one tommorow.
I'll let you know when i can join you, but i'm going to a grill party at my grandpa's tommorow (well ok, it's actually today but you know what i mean)
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>>106776405
das coo , have fun laddie
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>>106775573
>most active members of this thread are in the discord
really?
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>>106776325
Look at Tips & Notes and use the Discussion feature and Google for more help with grammar while using Duolingo.
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>>106777100
>really?
Yes.

t. Sven
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>>106777286
i’m on here basically 24/7 and don’t dven have discord
is it worth getting?
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>>106777521
No
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>>106777521
Maybe
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How autistic is the discord? I've joined one /int/ discord and it's pretty 'tistic
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>>106777521
>is it worth getting?
idk, I can't say if you think it's worth getting or not.

I joined many years ago because my frens and I wanted to move away from Skype for our group chat, and then I spent many years in our little server only. Then I joined /lang/ and then another server, and another, and another and accumulated more frens along the way. So ask yourself this: do you want get a Discord account? If yes, then go ahead. If not, then don't. Simple as.

>>106777822
Way less than this thread, believe it or not.
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>>106777822
Think about it this way
>It's discord
>It's a 4chan discord
Pretty fuckin autistic but you're already here so might as well.
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>>106769743
you started it by calling my a dumb faggot for sharing materials even though there was legit interest in them as some of them have 10 downloads even though I only posted them on a /lang/ thread once before and not any other place outside of /int/. quit being a faggot ass gay nigger
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>>106778929
I'm trying to help you bro, not only are you wasting your time by uploading shitty beginner-level books that could be found absolutely anywhere but you're also wasting the time of the two or three people who clicked on the shitty books by mistake.
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>I'm trying to help you bro, not only are you wasting your time by uploading shitty beginner-level books that could be found absolutely anywhere but you're also wasting the time of the two or three people who clicked on the shitty books by mistake.
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For me it’s brazil
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>>106773997
This. And if anyone knows how to learn Arabic, it's a Swede.
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>page 7
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>>106758884
Thanks bro, ignore the huezillian monkey
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>>106755870
It's not really simple to learn Arabic like it is to learn Spanish after learning english, or other Germanic languages, since they share similar vocabulary and usually grammar.
Arabic is a whole different language with a different logic structure that changes between dialects.
It's really hard to learn and will take years longer if you don't have someone to practice it with or a source to hear it from.
I'd say reconsider the reason as to why you want to learn Arabic. It's a big commitment, and you wouldn't want to waste years learning it only to quit midway.
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>>106758884
How long does it take to learn Japanese? From 0 experience to intermediate fluency?
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>>106780366
I don't know, I haven't got to intermediate level yet, but in my experience, I learned oral and spoken Japanese much faster than I did the written language.
I guess with some effort, you can reach intermediate level within 2 years in both writing and speaking
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>>106780711
I will have easier time with writing since I am already at an intermediate level in Mandarin
0 experience in oral and reading however, I might just try it out for fun
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>>106780779
if you already know some Mandarin, your learning curve will decrease A LOT. I think you should really try, the spoken part is much easier than mandarin, there's no tones and you can catch the words more easily than in spoken mandarin
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>>106780366
I passed the N3 with around 1 year and 3 months of studying, so I guess you should aim for that
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How hard would it be to learn e.g. German without an accent if your native language is Swedish (southern)? I don't think German has any sounds that Swedish doesn't, short of /x/.
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>>106780711
>faster than I did the written language.

Might file that one under "No shit, sherlock"
Japanese has the most obnoxious writing system of anyone
I don't know how their kids ever learn to read
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I lurk /deutsch/
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>>106780828
>>106781090
Thanks for input

It's actually kind of easy
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>>106781294
>>106781211
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>>106781278
Get good, little baby.
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>>106777822
I think it's pretty bad, and I dislike a lot of the people there at the moment. There is a lot of whining and not much actual language discussion going on. That being said, some people are helpful and it can introduce you to native speakers.
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>>106775657
The people actively creating, participating, and bumping these threads are from the discord.
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>>106771666
obligatory "your chinese sucks"
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>43% of the world's population is bilingual while 40% is monolingual.
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>>106782229
Let me fix that:
>43% of the world's population is a slave to America, and the other 40% are Americans or America's pets
Thanks for learning American, yurocucks.
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>>106782673
Please delete this post immediately.
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>>106782796
cope
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>>106782673
More like
>the British Empire had the most strategically placed colonies around the globe, and when they seceded that guaranteed that the English spread in the world was way more evenly distributed than any other language, which turned it the lingua franca
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I am an American.
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>>106782673
Absolutely based
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I have reached B2 in french and now starting spanish from scratch. Any opinions on learning spanish through french vs through english?

Since I put my phone in french a long time ago the duolingo app is working as if french was my native language, not sure if I like it but I have to decide pretty soon or I'll start building bad habits
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>>106783312
Just have sex mate it’s really not that hard
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>>106782909
England played the long game t b h
They may not be numero uno anymore, but they made sure they'll never go full Rome
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>>106783354
i don't think you are using that meme correctly
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>>106783463
Have sex
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>>106783463
I know, I was hoping that would instigate a bigger reaction..
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хaв ceкc
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Mьяy
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Бapк
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>in UK
>try to practice my mandarin with chinese people
>they're all cantonese
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>>106783906
Do Cantonese speakers emigrate a lot more than Mandarin speakers, or is that just me trying to read a pattern into my anecdotal experience?
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>>106784044
It's just that people from Hong Kong happen to speak Cantonese and usually they have an easier time emigrating for obvious reasons.
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>>106783312
I'm at B2 Spanish, but I never learned any French, but I've got a number of mates that speak French.
My recommendation would be to simply learn Spanish through English, but that doesn't mean that French will be of no help at all. You'll soon find that learning things like the subjunctive mood won't be as difficult because you already understand it on a conceptual level through French.
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>>106784044
Yes, and southern Chinese people in general from Guangdong and Fuzhou provinces mostly.
They are the biggest diaspora groups in Southeast Asia (Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, etc) and historically the first waves that came to USA were also from southern Chinese, especially Guangdong.
Most of the dialects Southeast Asian Chinese speak are from Guangdong and Fuzhou provinces, especially Cantonese, Min nan, Hakka and Teochew
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Sorry for the jumbled explanation, but can I please get recs for beginner French books (like textbook style, with explanations of concepts etc, not full-on French novels like the Little Prince) that are in epub/mobi etc. format? little to no graphics, color not necessary, consistent format etc. Basically I want to read on an e-reader but normal pdf textbooks look borderline unreadable. I don't know how to phrase this any better
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>page 9
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>>106785864
>page 5
Slayyyy
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>>106784044
A lot of Cantonese speakers in the California area, if you're near there.

>>106783906
If you're the annoying brit here, I'd like to remind you you are a fucking retard and I bet you can't speak for shit.
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>>106784830
whats wrong with peanuts theyre easily among what makes this shit even worth buying, dam ass raisins are the real enemy
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>>106787156
Have sex
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>>106787496
your mommy suck me thru my jorts
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>>106787616
Jorts? Is that some kind of blood vessel?
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>>106787760
Jorts are jean shorts, as the wrestlers Stone Cold and John Cena wear.
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>>106788396
have sex
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>>106788637
Have sex
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>>106788866
have sex
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>>106788866
oh holy kek , pepe memers!! this guy got DUBS !! ugh how based
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>>106789452
This, simple as.
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Ser väl ut som hans bror är en jude

också
>sida n
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>>106791012
Stupidest fucking exercise type in the history of ever.
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>>106791169
yea i hate that you cannot enable manual keyboard insertion on phone, it makes this completely worthless since if you understand the least bit of grammar you can easily put the answer together, it's a shame.
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>>106791232
fuckn oath, ended up deleting that shit it was so worthless
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>>106783312
If you're using Duolinguo you'll likely find that the Spanish-through-English and Spanish-through-French courses differ a lot in length and quality, so check them both out first.
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>>106771325
I keep 5-6 going at once, otherwise it'd be both way too repetitive, and you wouldn't have time to 'absorb' the latest lesson you'd plow through it so fast. YMMV.
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>>106792185
>YMMV
Young men make vore?
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>>106791853
i think they threw that overboard by now too, but on mobile you used to be able to go on the website, where you could indeed use your keyboard instead. there was never really amy reason to use the app other than the fact that it runs smoother. therere still so many things wrong with it, like how the apps been around for years now and they still havent managed to implement tips like on the site. this way youre getting dumpe into the cold water without the ability to find a proper rule to what youre learning, so if you dont get the pattern, you have to use your browser to look it up anyway, which makes the app completely redundant.

but at least theres an esperanto, a klingon, and a high valyrian course because retarded shit like that gets priority.
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>>106793521
yeah man I tried, but the constant adds, shit interface and poor mechanics threw me off. I tried pc, but it's just shit now. Mostly just use anki and textbook plus a few other programs here and there now.

>but at least theres an esperanto, a klingon, and a high valyrian course because retarded shit like that gets priority.
fuckin based. this shit is not important, it just shows how little they care and how desperate they are for more money
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>>106793772
cute :^)
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>>106793702
i mostly download grammar guides and read a lot online now and use duolingo on the side. i wish i had a higher tolerance for suffering through textbooks. a1-b1 textbooks are almost always utter shit and dreadfully boring so i dont even bother using those since i could just do a beginners course with a phone app and then once i got all basic grammar down i can just read things and listen to podcasts, but for more complex languages its nearly impossible to do that. sadly.
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>>106794073
same desu
I spend a lot of time on buses so I use that time to read textbooks and practice flashcards, then use programs and other shit on my computer when I'm at home.
I understand what you mean with beginner-intermediate textbooks being complete shit. Most of it is just 'most important phrases for travellers' or days of the week or some shit
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>>106794231
>desu
fuck me everytime
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can somebody translate these 4 for me?
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bump
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>>106784830
>but can I please get recs for beginner French books (like textbook style, with explanations of concepts etc, not full-on French novels like the Little Prince) that are in epub/mobi etc. format?
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/140Vms51VOL-F8sLqAtQph1cPo8XCWInE?usp=sharing
I have a couple epubs in there if it helps.
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>>106795898
Japanese
Traditional Chinese (Hong Kong)
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese (Taiwan)
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whats a good book on english grammar for people who know english from the internet very well (i got c1 certified in uni) but never learned any grammar
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>>106799231
>(i got c1 certified in uni) but never learned any grammar
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>>106799287
yes indeed
i had english in high school obviously but never cared about any grammar and got 97/100 on finals
the only tense i know how to form is present simple
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>>106799506
>i had
>never cared
>and got
>to form
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>>106799613
in my head these are just "fancy" tenses i dont know how to call them or consciously form them i just learned from the internet
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There are at least 2 Brits here learning Chinese, why?
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>>106774721
>извинитe
plural
>тeбя
singular
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>>106800633
what? Sorry can you not write like a dyslexic retard for a moment please
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>>106800633
The basedest tv show
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how do i start chinese
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>>106801264
The same way you start all other languages, learn the phonology, the writing system, and then i+1.
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>>106783312
Why the hell do people use this "B2" crap?

You really think there is such a précisé method of gauging your language proficiency?
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>>106799287
Kind of sounds like the college and university minor programs for French in the USA.
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>>106801967
yes
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>>106799730
They're submitting to their new overlords.
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is learning german/dutch worth it?
have brought it up several times with people I know but they always tell me they're dying languages.
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>>106803891
Are you friends possibly of the melanin-enriched kind?
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>>106802178
shouldn't the one in the middle have yellow star to show french acadia?
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>>106804081
fuck, meant canadian acadia
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>>106803891
I'm currently learning German, I like it.
In my case i'm doing it for a pointless reason: I want to understand Wagner's operas. But it's still fun.
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>>106804033
we are all pasty irish faggots, seeing anyone here who isn't white or asian is like seeing a unicorn
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>>106804081
>>106804109
That image only shows places that are currently using French flags. In history there are a shit ton of places that had French flags
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonial_flags
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>>106803891
>dying languages
???
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>>106805022
Well Holland and Germany do have an ageing population plus the kebab question, so in a way he's not wrong.
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>>106805022
Dutch will be replaced with Turkish
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>>106805230
>>106805465
>This is what new worlders think about Europe
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>>106805509
Holland is famous for its kebab shops now.
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>>106803891
They're just trying to prevent that you try to learn it and inflict your accent on us
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>>106805571
>Says the country that's famous for tacos
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>>106805706
The Netherlands is comparable to a single state. Mexicans always stay in the South. I don't see to many Mexicans in the North (where I live)
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Anyone here learning french ? I'm a native and I just started a Youtube channel where I read text slowly with an english translation, I'll drop the link if you want to check
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>>106806691
Please do
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>>106806691
I'm not learning French but I'll be in Paris in October so I'm wondering if I have to learn any French. What do you think? Should I learn the basics?
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>>106806924

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdSagSNn6NIc9En56wvbXsA

I started last week so the editing ain't perfect, but it'll become better.

And if you have any review or suggestions, please tell me !
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>>106807067

I think that french is pretty hard, so I don't really know. You should download an app like duolingo or something and practice a little bit everyday, so you can have an ok level in october. Assimil's is also very good, it's a book with half an hour lesson to do everyday. If you stick to it you can do good : lots of vocabulary is similar to english
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>>106803891
It depends. German is much useful, especially if you work in business, tourism or some other shit that has to work with foreigners in Europe. Dutch is pretty much useless unless you live there (and even in that case you could live in an expat bubble and probably not lose much anyway). So, why would you be learning a foreign language?
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>>106807067
The most basic thing you should learn is: "Excusez-moi, parlez-vous anglais (grèc*)?"
Politely asking if they speak English (or Greek but good luck finding someone speaking it) is the best way to not come across as an obnoxious tourist.
That being said, you can easily visit almost everywhere in Paris without a single word of French, but you can learn the very basic word and how to pronounce so as to ask for directions.
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>>106803891
>they're dying languages
Actually, scholars recommend spelling participle of dye as dyeing.
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>>106807498
*the present participle
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>>106807070
What accent is that?
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>>106805022
To be fair, German greens want to introduce English as a second official language for some fucking insane reason. I doubt it'll ever come to pass, and even if it does it'll take many decades (if not centuries) for English to really start replacing German, but it shows that there is something of a problem with the mentality of German people with regards to their language. You certainly would never see anything of the sort in any Romance-speaking country, for example.
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Awaiting Aramaic anon
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>>106808174
Not sure what "official language" entails in the German legal system, but it is perhaps a practical move
Western Europe is moving closer and closer to becoming a single nation. You might as well have everything in English when it's what everyone uses anyways.
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>why yes, this is page 7, how could you tell?
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>>106808921
why english? only ireland is an english speaking nation

why not make german the official language?

it's used in luxembourg, belgium, austria, germany, all EU members
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>>106809722
>second official language
>second
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>>106807454
Nice that's exactly what I was thinking about doing. French is the hardest romance language for me personally, so it would be troublesome if I had to learn a lot of French.
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>>106807498
well then how would you do the pres part of dye?
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>>106809653
>Yes I do wait until/Lang reaches page 10 before bumping, how could you tell?
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>>106808921
>You might as well have everything in English when it's what everyone uses anyways.
That's exactly the attitude I'm talking about. Even if the EU federalized tomorrow morning with English as its sole official language, countries like France and Italy would never roll over so easily. Germans (along with Dutch, Swedes, etc.) seem to have little to no attachment to their language, which might make said language vulnerable in the future. I imagine that his is what the other poster might have originally meant with "dying languages".
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>>106810123
THE SEXUAL THRILL
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Bump
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>another fleeting interest with a language i will never use in my entire life
Here we go again.
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>>106811473
Please post here and get this old thread over with.
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>>106811473
Which one?
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>>106807498
>prescriptive grammar
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>>106811861
Malaysian for no particular reason. It probably won't even last a week.
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>>106812055
Pretty based choice, If you consider Malaysian and Indonesian the same language(which they are), you're onto a Lang with more than 200 Million speakers, Malaysia is also reasonably developed, so you're not stuck with a language of which all speakers live in caves. I also have the added benefit of living in a country with a notable Indonesian minority, but it's still based
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>>106811950
>not joining the fray and spelling it "grammer" already
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you have your own caviar? wtf?
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New thread gamers



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