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This guy's review of Kingdom of Heaven
>Europeans wouldn't allow illegitimate heirs
>implying Peasants have any power over whom gets the throne and ignoring all the inbreds and usurpers who have ruled their kingdoms
>this portrayal of Muslims is completely wrong they were super aggressive
>assuming he's talking about the Ayyubids massacres of POWs
>he starts talking about stuff the Seljuk Turks did
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>>7227168
Not sure I really understand the last 3 points you made?

Is he saying the Muslims were super aggressive, if so in what context? In this case they were the aggressor to an extent no? Either way the film does give an overly positive portrayal of Saladin compared to the ‘evil nazi crusaders who want to rape and murder the peaceful innocent Muslims’, when in reality they’re were basically no different from each other.

Saladin founded the Ayyubids. Did he bring this up? Why was he wrong?

What’s wrong with bringing up the Seljuk Turks in the context of a broad review of crusades history?

History Buffs does get things wrong all the time, but I’m not sure I understand your use of greentext here. Like are you quoting what he got wrong, or stuff he missed or what?
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>>7227168
>step back history
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>>7227168
There is this one memer who always spams his videos on here, just a bunch of meme edits(wojak, Chad, etc) he trys to pass off as OC. That shit is pretty cringe.
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>>7227224
I have no problem with him claiming Muslims were expansionist and aggressive but he literally starts talking about the Turks when speaking of the portrayal of the Ayyubids.
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>>7227272
Sounds like he just got his info from Medieval Total War or just researched ‘Muslims in Crusades’ and found Seljuks.
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Historia Civilis.
Nigga straight up tryin to make my boy Caesar look bad.
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Alternative Hypothesis is by far the worst. I'm 99% sure he or his butt buddy posts here.
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>>7227256
The spam was some falseflagging cunt pretending to be him
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potential history
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>>7227168
>YouTube Historians
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There is no good video oriented history to be had.
Read. A. Fucking. Book.
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>>7228302
What if I cant read
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>>7227256
Dovanhatty?
The fact so many of the faggots here seem to gobble it up gives me little hope for this dumpsterfire of a board.
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>>7228302
what's reading
t. zoomer
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>>7228351
He's unironically based though. Rough Roman memes are ALWAYS a good thing.
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>>7229508
He's cringe as fuck. I don't care how much of a Romaboo you are.

4chan outside of 4chan is always cringe.
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>>7228351
He's /ourguy/
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>>7229514
That opinion merely betrays your lack of experience. It can be done well but it requires a careful synthesis, nothing that can be explained in terms of solid rules, not too much the one way nor the other. Channels like that Dovanhatty guy pander too much to this "sekrit club" notion, it's completely overboard and lacks any subtly behind the appearance
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>>7227517
he was a Caesarboo himself in earlier videos, now he's woke

sic semper tyrannis
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There's a couple retards like history buffs, nella, etc.
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TIK History is godawful and an anti-German shill and contrarian just to be contrary. Total faggot
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>>7230344
TI "All government is socialism" K
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>>7230373
Yeah his political videos are fucking embarrassing to watch and I don't understand why he keeps insisting on making them as he gets ripped apart in the comments every time. He says he is going to continue doing them though in addition to a series "Proving the Holocaust happened once and for all"

Historian Nigel Askey wrote an essay debunking one of his videos (one where TIK 'debunked' the myth of German fighting superiority on the Eastern Front) on his operationbarbarossa.net site and TIK said in the comments he is going to make a video debunking Askey's debunking of himself in the next week or so
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Okay so there seems to be a lot of history YT channels and a lot of /his/ threads complaining about them

does this mean it should be relatively easy to make decent-quality history vids for YT?
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>>7227524
What)s wrong with him?
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>>7227256
Goddamn this. It's fucking laughably bad. From his neckbeard ass voice, to the poorly researched and written content, to the shitty meme edits he puts as clickbait and his creepy ass donut steel he's too cool to say why he uses it.
Whenever i see threads about it having a gorillion posts and tons of people come to the poor wannabe e-celeb's aid whenever you call it out for the blatant advertising and begging it is, i'm 70% sure all of it, or at least a good chunk is him schizoing it up and samefagging. I'm also pretty sure he has connections with mods since his shill threads never get deleted and i've gotten banned for critisizing him.
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>>7230377
Did he really? Do you know by chance which video that comment is on?
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>>7228302
no thanks, I pefer Audiobooks since I don't have the time to read when I have projects to finish.
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>>7227168
I can't tell if the channel you are complaining about is legitimately bad, or if you are a crusader larper who got buttmad about factual review of these campaigns in the east.
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>>7230436
Perhaps, but getting an audience is another matter
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Does anybody else remember this guy as a cohost from spill.com's gaming podcast? Those were good days.
I remember when that all went to shit and he started this. I never thought he'd explode in popularity from that shitty little youtube channel.
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>>7230514
I can try to find it and screencap it for you. He mentioned it two different times I believe to someone who often leaves comments calling him Rabbi Bartonstein and shit like that lol... First one said he would be addressing it in a video then the other one said he was planning to make the rebuttal video in the next week or so and something like "From what I've checked so far Askey seems to prove himself wrong and me right in his own sources" or something like that
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>>7230514
Well I found this one, it is in reply to this guy Die Geister unserer Kameraden arguing with someone and mentioning TIK said he would cover the essay and TIK replied with this. I am pretty sure I saw a comment on an earlier video before this too where he said it would be in the next few weeks

Sorry on my phone so that is as much as I can fit in the cap. That's the only comment he makes in those particular replies (to the calling him Rabbi)
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>>7230512
It's supposed to be bad history. He has pointed out many times in the comment section
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>>7227168
Extra Credits has pretty shallow videos, which I have seen debunked multiple times in >Plebbit's Bad History. Although I do give them a nod for promoting a lot of less known history from all around the world, including things like Mahapajit Empire.
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>>7230512
The fuck is donut steel, also
>connections with mods
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>>7230344
>anti-German shill and contrarian
You say that like those are bad things. The Germans fucking deserve it and contrarianism is good for finding new prospectives to argue from. Something that there is nothing wrong with.
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>>7227517
He uses BCE/CE so i just ignore his trash videos.
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>>7231064
>contrarianism is good
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>>7231064
Let me make this clear: TIK's main talent is digging up obscure, often contradicted sources that are largely discounted for good reasons but presenting them like they're the Gospel. His narratives are stupid, and his analyses were often based on nonsense.

He has always been a crappy historian at best and an outright liar at worst. He just does it in a field where most people didn't know enough to call him out on his bullshit.

This is illustrated quite well in historian Nigel Askey's essays debunking one of TIKs videos that was mentioned earlier in the thread:
http://www.operationbarbarossa.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Essay-alt-view-TIK-presentation.pdf
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>>7230761
Yeah, I found this channel in my recommendation box a good number of years ago and did a spit take when he said he was Nick Hodges. Hardly remember the video game show but I remembered him being a guest host for LDT since I loved that podcast. Double Toasted is cool but I miss the comfy days of binging Spill stuff after school at the turn of the decade.
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Hes not bad but his Braveheart video was cringe
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>>7230486
I don't know, maybe the endless strawmanning, disingenuity, white supremacy, and genocide denial?
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>>7231011
Lurk moar
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In his Agora video he basically pulled out this chart and blamed Christians for us not being in space right now since the library of Alexandria was burned down.
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>>7230943
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT
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>>7231782
>genocide denial
>pointing out that the Congo shit was largely carried out by native auxiliaries and not actual Belgians
REEEEE NO MUH EVIL LEOPOLD NARRATIVE
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>>7231011
I don't know if its connections with mods but he sure is allowed to make whole threads to shill his shit.
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>>7232035
You're one of the few ones here that seem to actually dislike it. And the fact he gets such a positive response from a place as eager to shit on anything as this one, it's rather impressive
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>>7232046
>pointing out
You mean basically doing everything he could to absolve Belgium of its responsibility and blame the victims because they were racially related to some of the mercenaries hired by Belgium?
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>>7232058
>you should like it because /his/ likes scarfing up recycled memes
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>>7232061
No, because the black auxiliaries literally did do most of the atrocities.
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>>7232069
And here come the shills.
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>>7232058
Maybe the Romaboos since he panders to them, but then again it's not too hard to cater to that niche here since they lap-up any info on Roman history that isn't a book.
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>>7227517
>nigga straight tryin
Imagine how you look saying this in real life, that's assuming of course that you actually do and aren't just full of shit
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>>7232072
>opinion
>shill
Newfag
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>>7232133
Cope
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>>7227168
>watching history channels
>ever
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>>7232007
I remember LindyBeige once said that you could tell how middle class a person was by how much they “grieve” over the loss of the library of Alexandria.
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>>7227524
literally the opposite
go back to plebbit
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>>7227517
If you think that then you haven't read much about Caesar. Nothing in that video was inaccurate.
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>>7232423
>t.Cato
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>>7232472
Point out an inaccuracy, Fagrippa.
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>>7232294
Butthurt
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>>7228302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8
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>>7227517
Despite his leftism which occasionally creeps through, Historia Civilis is great, fuck off Populares.
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>>7232074
Non-academic Romefags are the fucking worst.
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>>7232058
You're a fucking faggot and you're also paper thin to see through when you're samefagging.
Unironically leave this board and do something irl, get a job or something or kill yourself if you can't do that.
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>>7232046
>>7232069
Oh, so you mean guys still working for Belgians
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>>7231068
>being this fucking spergy
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>>7231068
You have to understand shit like that is done not because of any malicious intent but because if he didn't, normies would tear him apart for it.
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>>7233488
No they wouldn't.
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>>7233447
b-b-but they were black so it's not Belgium's fault!
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>>7233488
Actually it's only larpers that really give a shit about BCE or BC. Most history professors will tell you just keep your usage consistent throughout your paper.
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>>7232058
He doesn't get that positive of a response proportional to the people with actual interest in discussion, as opposed to shitposting. His subscriber count reflects that well. Some vocal autists just have an urge to howl whenever they see a Chad edit it's vague relation to history. He's like an like an even low effort Sseth.
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>>7227524
some of what he says is true
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>>7232120
lmao this nigga really wildin
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>>7232248
He is right
low class
>Alexandria? Like, in Virginia?
Middle class
>Oh yes, it was such a tragedy, so much progress lost!
High class
>Lmao who gives a shit
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>>7233725
There's sometimes a grain of truth in it, but he's not in any way shape or form a trustworthy or reliable source.
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>>7230377
For TIK, economics and libertarianism is his true passion. He likes history, but only because he can read about WW2 and nod his head thinking
"Roight, of course, more reasons why all governments are shite."
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>>7232069
Not him, but
>the Belgians hired natives to do their dirty work
isn't really saying anything. That was the standard in most colonies. If the point he was trying to make is 'technically it was blacks killing blacks when you ignore everything else, therefore Belgiums dindu nuffin', then that's flimsy as fuck. Especially when you consider the FP had a shit ton of foreign black mercenaries alongside the white ones, and those that were 'Congolese' were mostly drawn from the most remote corner of an arbitrarily and recently drawn-up country the size of Europe.
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>>7233488
Literally no one gives a shit except autists on the Internet
t. BA History
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>>7233687
>>7234232
That's the point of the post innit?
No academic would throw a fit for it but those very loud autists on the internet would. He's just playing it safe so he can focus on making videos and not damage controlling some faggots melting down over a word.
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>>7232007
Kek. This always makes me laugh, how laughably inaccurate.
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>>7234365
Yeah they never post the full image.
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>>7233488
Normies do not care a single shit about which one your use, they're fine with either.
The only people who throw a fit are Christ LARPers, either American boomers on facebook or 4chan crossposters with Deus Vault profile pics
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>>7234243
>No academic would throw a fit for it but those very loud autists on the internet would.
Why indeed, I'm replying to one right now.
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>>7227168
Protip: if you're trying to get any serious information from talking heads on YouTube, you're a fucking brainlet, plain and simple.

Reading books is apparently too challenging for you, hence why you're trying to get information pre-digested and recited at you.
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>>7230512
>connections with mods
Nah, mods just don't bother with /his/. There's a few boards they don't touch, /his/ is one of them. /asp/ is another that I know of, and I'm sure there's more. Their main focus is /tv/, /vg/ and /pol/.
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>>7234799
based
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>>7235260
If the only that care about it are Christians then why make the change away from BC/AD to begin with?
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>>7235426
Good history channels like History Time Al Muqaddimah and stuff serve as good overview providers to give you a basic idea of what you're getting into. Great ones like the Great War have almost as much information as a book for beginners. That said very little beats an actual book if you have what it takes to read them all the way through.



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