New warrior aesthetics thread
>spam random osprey illustrations with no contextepic style
>>7211782>>7211776Africans have always had these aesthetics
>>7211330big bloody girl, pssh, look at him.
Spear and shield is always underrated.
>>7212020Trust africa to only get to the aspis in the 19th century.Pretty cool though.
Macedonian soldiers from a tomb from the 4 century bc
North-East Georgians, same garment was mentioned and described by Pompeus during his conquests.
Some guy dressed as a foot soldier from the songhai
Most of these we'rent actual Brigandine the Chinese soldiers just like the comfort of them.
>>7212182look like shepherds
>>7211294Armies never looked like this, especially english armies>>7211299
>>7211831Was africa behind on bow technology? Why do they all wear gambesons
>>7212182why do the guys on top look like pale nordoids and the guys on the bottom like pajeets?
>>7212684Because its fucking hot and extremely humid Do expect random foot soldiers to run around in full plate armor or something?To also add the Sudanese adopted composit bows early on and long bows were the dominant weapon in the sahel.
>>7211294>poor fags and foot soldiers>in full plate
>>7212720Yeah no but you would think they'd fins something to protect their valuable warriors from bowfire
>>7212727>being an uneducated retard and posting on /his/ anywayYou and 99% of this shit ass board
>>7212762Except the garmets do protect from bow fire do you think gambsons are just shirts?
>>7212684Gambesons are fairly good against arrows and if you've got a shield then that's basically the armour of a poor early middle age European you've got, not bad going to be honest.
>>7212727English armies would often fight on foot. And usually in an army they would group people together so your line wouldn't randomly break because you had John the peasant with a club next to Sir Chad. As a rule, all armies fielded their best soldiers at the front, or at least their capable men-random 'poor fags' as you call them wouldn't be expected to face down knights in normal circumstances. The Aztecs tried doing the opposite once, sending their poor first to take the arrow shot, but they routed, ran back into their capable men and fucked up the whole line and got everyone killed. From then on the shorn ones (elite) went first, followed by the eagle-jaguar warriors, and the rest learnt from observation and less intense exposure to war.
>>7212966I think his point is that the majority of soldiers didn't wear plate armor
I've got tons of pictures of people with weapons. Bit of a hobby to collect them. If anyone has any I will trade 1:1 on photos. Most are roughly described and dated.For a start see pic related: only way to get ahead.
>>7212994As do I
>>7212985I was trying to say that they've probably put all the well armoured knights in one place and the others somewhere else. Giving the artist a lot of unwarranted credit I know, but it's a possibility.
I must say the simple skull helmet and aventail combo is the best for me nothing fancy but beautiful
>>7213207I especially like Turbans
>>7213207Bloody hell I've got a mace just like it! Funny how things are common like that.
>>7213257oooo very nice bro
>>7213264Thank you. A reproduction, got ripped off for it but I plan to use it as a mold, then cast my own.
>>7213195It really is beautiful. Byzantine/Roman cataphract had the most aesthetically pleasing armor in history IMO and the helmet+aventantail plays a huge part in that for me. And the scale/lamellar horse armor.
>>7213356Pic related btw
What do you call this?
>>7213564>>7213458>>7213452I believe that is hausa
>>7213452>>7213593Most likely padded cloth
>>7211294i'd stab his sexy lil chin
>>7213452a rich nigga
Why are Greeks so aesthetic?
Most of you won't be able to tell which era and geographic location this portraits
>>7215840Franco-Prussian war 1871
absolutely BASED byzaboos itt
>>7215840Some Teutonic battle? Or Scandinavian Medieval Era. Could also be Baltic.
>>7215840Chilling stuff, that Sekigahara battle
>>7215840Lion says Norway.
>>7215840I mean, it's fine trying to be proud of Sweden, but literally backwaters Russia dunked them into the dirt while they were at the height of their power, so it's kinda sad
>>7212169those two in the back are Celtic warriors, but what is the nigga squatting with that particular non-Celtic sword and holding a cut head?
>>7216225You got it right although the image takes place before Russia existed back when they were Novgorod instead. Well done. Also sad but true.
>>7215840https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaget_vid_HerrevadsbroA battle in 1251 between Birger jarl and some other twats
STOP POSTING PLATE ARMORPLATE ARMOR DIDNT EXISTED ALL THESE IMAGES ARE FAKEITS A WELL KNOWN FACT THAT PLATE ARMOR WAS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR A COUNTRY TO AFFORD HAVING MORE THAN HALF A SET FOR MORE THAN A CENTURYSTOOOOOOOP
>>7216372Also don't show maps with Corsica inhabited before the 15th century.Ships couldn't sail to those Islands before renaissance era navigation techniques.
>>7213452Chad from Chad
>>7216447Chad from Nigeria actually
>blocks your path
>>7212671Hate to tell you but 99.99999% of ALL historical depictions are highly idealized
>>7215996May the blessings of the emperor be with you my son
>>7216884Psssh nothing personal kiddo
>>7216996>closed eyes whilst shootingkek
>>7217196bullets travel faster than arrows, you can close your eyes just before firing without much loss of accuracy
>>7216246My guess is Dacian
anyone got late 19th century turkish, turkic, central asian aesthetics?
>>7217369do you think the arrows will change their path if you dont stare at your target
Take the Bell-pill
>>7217518>>7217513Ignore the nogs, I just typed turk in the search bar so they came up.
>>7217523why did people forget how to make full plate after antiquity?
>>7217513These are Georgians. There was a story about how the some real backwoods, middle of fucking nowhere, Georgians heard Russia declared war on the Turk and so these highlander Georgians turned up for a crusade armed to the teeth in their medieval war gear demanding to know where the war was in 1915.
>>7217588Checked (heil) and thanks. Will rename.
>>7217523oh HELL YEAH!
>>7211284how did i miss this one earlier
>>7217787>>>7217777 (You)>CHECKED!stay away from me with that iron spearhead!! *runs*
>>7217387Very similar sword... accurate depiction of clothing, logical geographical placement between the two, I guess you might be right, anything you could tell me about them? Are they later Scythians, western Scythians, Celt-Scythian hybrids, what are they? And wher does that sword come from? The design looks extremely midle eastern/non-IE to me.And, any idea why they wear the Phyrgian hat that also the Persians, Scythians and Phyrgians wore?
>>7217588>>7217513we niggas straight ballinin the land of Stalingot these chains on my facecuz we look out for spallinnowif this ain't the ancient metre then I interpret it newlyjust try to spit rhymes with "gabrts'q'invebuli"if you wanna roll in Colchis I tell you this trulyI pray to God that y'all have watched some fuckin FLCL
>>7217812Brazen it be!Look closer and see!Another here is for thee!
>>7217852tell me, is this a Celtic sword, did I got it right?
>>7217850Just came to my head now that white people (especially ANGLOs) invented rap battles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting
>>7217860I think that be so, since it is from EnglandBut before the English, so of a Celtic brandA sword not common, but broad in rangeIt's a lovely thing, but nothing too strange.
>>7216246they are all dacian
>>7217893Then why do they look so Celtic (Cape, tartan, that sword, that shied) but the other dude doesn't
>>7217917Errr...are you one of those people who thinks 'Celtic' means 'Scottish and Irish from the 1800s to present'? Kek. Also, they don't have a monopoly on that pattern.
>>7217917Those are dacian shields, the Getae also used celtic longswords and ''tartans'' . The dacians had erly contacts with the celtic tribes , and they even genocided the Boii and Taurisci when they invaded.The scale armour and the phrigyan helmet are representative for the dacian tribes, as it is shown on Trajans Column
>>7217932Well, I get that Dacians, eventhough they are unknown to me, are right in that territory in between Celts and Scythians. But Scythians never wore tartan (that I know of) and Celts never wore Phyrgian hat (again, that I know of). So I was trying to understand what's going on here.
>>7217945>>7217917Trajans Columm; you can clearly see the dacian draco, the shield, the scale armor and the helmet
>>7213436What is the one to the left?
>>7217945Do those Dacians have anything to do with Scythians, quick rundown on Dacians? They seem to be like some Scythians that sort of absorved some Celtic culture or something.
>>7217961>>7217958>Do those Dacians have anything to do with Scythians, quick rundown on Dacians? Thraco Dacian tribes lived in todays Romania, Bulgaria , Hungary and Ukraine. They traded with the scythians, , but were completely different . They had decent fortresses and GOAT walls called ''murus dacicus''Decent mythology, decent methalurgy, decent wars against romans. Ovid wrote about them in his exile at Tomis. Jordanes links them to the goths, but it might be just some germanic LARPING
>>7217943Doesn't mention anything about it there.>>7217953fair enough.
>>7217992really interesting niggas, thank you very much, today I just discovered a distinct people living right between the Celts and Scythians, both my favourite cultures
>>7217819They were not a product of celts or scythian, rather they, like the celts and greeks, appeared during the bronze age. They were influenced by scythian and greek influence and multiple celt migrations, they were never a cohesive state but rather just a lot of tribes so they were subjugated by the persians, alexander and later the romans
>>7218067> they were subjugated by the persians, alexander and later the romanspoor lil' dudes
Love me some Cossacks
>>7218073>>7218062>>7218056>>7218052>>7218051>>7218047>>7218042>>7218039>>7218035>>7218031>>7218023>>7218022>>7218011>>7218005>>7218003Is this like sudanese/Sahelian?
Has anyone seen a flight for a javelin like this before?
>>7218100>only one wheelwere they retarded?
>>7218218To be fair he was in command of the unicycle brigade.
The pre-WW1 look is peak for me (pictured are soldiers of the eight nation alliance which intervened to put down the Boxer Rebellion in China, 1900)
>>7216246That type of sword is called a rhompaia. You might be able to tell from the illustration, but the distinctive feature of these swords is that they have a single edge on the inner curve. I assume this makes it suited to lopping-off of extremities or heads. There is a smaller variant known to speakers of Latin as a flax, which has a more pronounced hook. This is how it gets its Latin name, which refers a tool like a sickle or scythe.>>7218218You have to assume that it's mostly just for resting on -- it would have been easier to just lift the litter than it would be to roll it around. The general wouldn't have much comfort bouncing across the ground on that thing, defeating the purpose.
>>7218253My apologies, "flax" is a useful crop, while the sickle is actually a falx
>>7218029>Doesn't mention anything about it there.Because you either didn't read or are so unfamiliar with the history of raps origins in Afro-American culture that you couldnt put 2 in 2 together. It was the fusion of oral storytelling and music in West African griot professions, coupled with traditions such as sanankuya. Which survived in a crypto form amongst slave populations. Almost ever king in West Africa had a personal griot. Whom would literally pump up the crowd with his stories or feats. Or on his command throw insults or create a preemptive derogatory song. This goes back thousands of years.https://youtu.be/jlGbs2h2YqE
>>7211284where's this one from?
>>7211268Notice the lack of negriod armor?Really says alot doesn't it?
>>7219497Are you blind or just racist?
>>7219556>baggy donkeyI want one
Some Thracian stuff
>>7219788me on the left
>>7213207>>7213257 made by tod?
>>7219497>you mad whiteboi?kek
>>7219885Yes it is! The Cutler range (for us poor people). Perfectly fine piece, very light but fits well onto a shouldered shaft, set it in with a large wooden wedge (or a wooden wedge and two small metal wedges). His hafting prices are absolutely ludicrous though, wanting double the price just to put it on a shaft, so just buy the head and mount it yourself. I've got pic related also, it's good enough but it's not like a tool knife at all-put it to too much work and it will take a set, not stabbing humans mind, but don't be hitting wood or anything. I mind the mistake of throwing it, sticks well but the handle causes sag. Had to straighten it out. Obviously that's my fault, but I'm just warning you that these aren't 'beaters'. Also, if you buy from 'cutler' the sharpening service is really inadequate, so be prepared to sharpen it at home even if you have it ''''sharpened'''' by them. If you've got a few stones and a bit of time I wouldn't even bother paying the £10.I also have his stiletto. I think the steel is too soft personally but overall it's a really, really, good piece for the price. The blade goes to a a really acute point, could fit the last quarter of an inch on the nail of your little finger by width. Need to sharpen it yourself though.Good overall. I'd recommend buying if you're hesitant, you probably won't get much better for the price.
>>7220332> Examples of flyting are found throughout Norse, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon and Medieval literature involving both historical and mythological figureshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting
>>7217523im thinking this guy is based
>>7217569ill take a gambeson with mail over that any day
>>7217960flamethrower, not joking they had flamethrowers
>>7217943>>7218454>>7220338So essentially the origins of rap can be attributed to both Northwestern Europeans and westernmost West Africans. Specifically from Norse, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, Mande, Fula and Wolof cultures. Cool stuff anon. It seems like it's no coincidence that the fusion of these 2 similar traditions evolved into modern rap within the US
>>7221027Tell me more
>>7221110They made devices which could shoot flammable liquid, and ignited it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire
>>7221107>It seems like it's no coincidence>modern rapIt's coincidence. And rap IS modern, it really doesn't have antique counterparts because recorded music is central to what hip-hop is. It was born out of disco. Afro-Americans weren't channeling Mande, Fula or Wolof cultures when it occurred to them to talk about macaroni and cheese over the beat from Chic's "Good Times". They weren't shoutin' out to the griots. They likely didn't even not know what a griot is. It just seemed like a good idea. The music lends itself to it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUqvPJ3cbUQNo particular race or nation has claim to speaking in rhyme, or to making fun of people in rhyme. Anglo-Saxons have as little to do with rap as almost anybody in the world, as much as they like to read snide poems in the House of Commons. "Flyting was the first rap battle" is the same schtick as the hip teacher telling you why Shakespeare was actually the Drake of Elizabethan England. It's all well and good to draw comparisons, but let's be sure to stop well short of drawing a genealogy
>>7221222Actually rap cap from the Jamaican tradtion of toasting which came from griot tradtionshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deejay_(Jamaican)
>>7221407Modern ''''jamaicans'''' are niggers from Africa. Give the CARIBbean back to the Caribs.
>>7221407Aight, you showed me up, thanks for the knowledge
>>7212720>Sudan and Sahel regions are extremely humid
>>7221407Based. Good save. I knew that griots influenced rap through crypto traditions but Jamaicans involvement is new to me. >>7221421Get fucked>>7221419You get fucked as well
>>7221572>what is the wet season
>>7222456Say it again nigger
>>7221572Its humid over almost all of SSA africa
>>7212671A) That is not the entire armyB) Those are dismounted knightsC) Landsknechts certainly looked like that
>>7216098 stfu Mitsunari
>>7212139thats not even in africa anon
>>7225103The anti-african posters get more and more retarded every week. The worst part about it is summer breaks over. But it continues. Meaning it isnt children
Anyone else also never sick of looking at plate armor?
>>7225141Yeah he is stupid, must be a nigger.
>>7211294>Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
Plated maille. Why was it not used in Europe, they just wore their plate over the maille, and later put voiders on the doublets,but never integrated the two.
>>7218032I hate so much that I've been away from this board for like three months, and that I'm pretty sure I recognise the exact anon who made this post
>>7215840Landscape plus the fact that most of the opposing army is on foot says Hastings, but that's way early for the greathelms.
>>7216251Rus' existed circa 8th century CE
>>7227620>CEDo you mean AD? Why do you change a perfectly good term for another? There is nothing 'common' to this time, arbitrarily selected, unless one goes by the dates decided by the users of AD and BC, and if you do that, why not just use those terms?
>>7227890AD and BC aren't perfectly good terms. They're inconsistent. They aren't even in the same language.
>>7217588mind giving the sauce on that
>tfw there aren’t historical martial arts tournaments>like For Honour but in real lifeJust imagine all these people leaping in semi ceremonial battle gear duking it out. Imagine the banter. Some Zulu fighting an Aztec larper
>>7226515Is that fabric or metal?
>>7228249Based. Fuck the Olympics. I want this
>>7212727Know your stuff before commenting. THe english knights/men at arms were known for dismounted combat in battle, as compared to continentals>>7212985This isnt the whole army numbnuts, its just a division of men at arms, mixed unit tactics were not a thing at this time. The knights grouped with knights, the laymen with laymen and their officers.
>>7228015BCE and CE are completely nonsensical. What's 'common' about the era we're in?
>>7229413Exactly, and there's no point putting a peasant in with the knights because he'll just get destroyed by the opposing knights. People think the peasants were used as cannon fodder but really they were used to support the knights and other men at arms proper in combat.
>>7213333MORE DAKKA BOYZ! I WANNA SEE MORE SPIKEY BITS!
>>7213207>>7213246>>7213260Is this more turkic or more Persian style armor and how did this style spread to Indian subcontinent??
>>7229774It spread via turkic Persian conquestBy the mughals and Dheli sultanate
>>7211294The price value of all that armor in that single image is probably worth 5-8 gold bars and 4 arrange royal child marriages.
>>7217569They didn't. It was just plate was uncomfortable as fuck on marches and wars become less local so they needed lighter armor.If it were a war with your nextdoor neighbor, sure go full plate but if it's across the country you're better off with thick cloth and a shield.
>>7217742I honestly wouldn't be able to differentiate this between vietnam war militia pictures.
>>7226496Just imagine this coming down a dark hallway towards you
>>7230987Jin Dynasty General armor
>>7230991Jin heavy cavalry armor
>>7213207>>7213257what the fuck, they're way too small and especially to light to do real damage
>>7230998Mongol heavy cavalry armor
>>7231003Well just go back in time and tell the soldiers that. I'm sure they'd appreciate your insight.The one I own I've got on a shaft about two foot. You can swing it the same speed as a stick but it concentrates all the force on a small point. It will kill an unarmoured man with a blow very easily, I guarantee.
>>7212720is that aluminum?
>>7215840It's a medieval setting and the helmets are medieval. The lion is from the Swedish Bjälbo/Folkunga dynasty, so maybe the battle is from the second Swedish crusade against the tavastians?
>>7233729Oh didn't see the other replies until now, my bad
>>7213440>>7213444Everything about parthian/persian uniform is aesthetic except that tumor ball, it's even goofier than the phrygian smurf cap or the atrophied corinthian helm
Needs more cataphract
>>7235808There's already enough
>>7234055there are some real qt oldschool maori pics. shame they get obese these days
>>7235808got you senpai
>circles your position
you're on a raid with the boys and this giy slaps your bro>what do