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Are there any cases of mommy gfs in history?
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>>7086377
I too would like to know
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>>7086377
The prophet Muhammad's first wife
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>>7086377
No, women only like strong confident dominant men with the best social standing possible who will take care of everything like daddy used to.
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Where is the Khitan expert when you need him
>>7086401
t. Pleb
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>>7086377
Like most of Muhammad's wives are MILFs.
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>>7086377
no, and it never will happen. Your stupid fetish bullshit makes you weaker and effeminate and so degenerates like yourself need a strong with to take charge, since they lack so much self hope and don't have the will to change. disgusting.
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>>7086392
Came here to post this
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>>7086377
Catherine the Great and her favorites, also, the she was literally called mommy when addressed by subjects
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>>7086467
>she was literally called mommy when addressed by subjects
proofs?
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>>7086487
tsars and tsaritsas were commonly affectionately called batyushka/matyushka = more or less daddy/mommy
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>>7086495
i mean... it's MOTHERland russia after all
lmao
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>>7086495
Tfw no tsarina gf
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>>7086506
identifying earth, soil or land with teh female principle is an extremely common and pretty intuitive trope
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>>7086518
i kno
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>>7086495
>calling the tsarina as mommy
Oh jeez
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>>7086377
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukhai

Manduchai was the daughter of prince Corosbai Temür from the Engküd otog der Tümed and already in young years the widow Manduul Khan (ruled about 1463-1467, died heirless). When the Oirats attacked the following Khan Bayan-Möngke Jonon (Bolkho Jinong, ruled about 1467-1470) and robbed his wife Siker taiqo, his 5-year-old son Batu-Möngke was given into their care. After the murder of his father, he was considered the last heir to the throne from the house of Genghis Khan in Mongolia. Thereupon she is said to have taken the initiative, raised her childlike protégé Batu-Möngke to the throne as Dayan Khan and personally attacked the Oirates, which led to the victory at Tash bürti and Tash Turandu respectively. After his majority she married him in 1481 despite an age difference of about 16 years and gave birth to eight children. In several negotiations and campaigns she succeeded in the rise of the Genghisides again.
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>>7086377
>de dubuutu wubbuta derrr derrr
This is what you sound like
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>>7086392
I unironically got feels after reading the prophet's early life.

>after gabriel comes with the revelation the prophet thinks that he is going mad
>Khadija supports him and reassures him that he isn't
>when he is losing faith in himself and his ability as a prophet Khadija again supports him mentally

How can I get such a supportive and loyal wife bros?
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>>7086377
Blessed Virgin Mary Magdalene
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>>7086377
Empress Josephine
Diane de Poitiers
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Cao cao had a milf fetish that was well known and got a loyal retainer killed. He was invited too drink and feast at some noble's castle but got to drunk and started hitting on the guys aunt. The guy called in his men and Cao cao and Dan Wei had to fight thier way out.
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>>7086888
Most religion founders had someone believed in them like that, I would even say those guys are more important for religions/cults to flourish than the leaders.
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>>7086467
Unfortunately Catherine the great was a massive THOT
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>>7087108
That just makes her a better mommy though...
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>>7086377
Did someone mention Theodora yet?
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>>7086495
The meaning of that word isn't the same as the English "mommy".
It rather shows respect, as in adressing an elder person.
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>>7087282
hence "more or less". it is affectionate though, it's respectful, yes, but not formal and distant.
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>>7087304
It's not "more or less". It's just not the same. Period.
"mommy" or "mother" necessitates a family realtionship.
Matushka/Batyushka, for one, do not.
The differences are subtle but quite big.
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>>7086377
Stratonice of Syria was married to Seleucus but he divorced her because his son Antiochus was in love with her and was suicidal or something. Seleucus had a daughter with her and Antiochus had five kids. When you combine Greek and Persian culture you get peak degeneracy
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>>7087265
>whore
>mommy gf
No.
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>>7087321
>"mommy" or "mother" necessitates a family realtionship.
it doesn't. as proofs see this very thread
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Why on Earth is /his/ posting about it's filthy Oedipan complexes?
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>>7087378
Same reason they post about dead Dutch Jewish girls
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ITT: niggers who don't know what a "mommy gf" is
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>>7086888
Muhammad was really lucky and probably a great guy to be around, he had a lot of awesome and supportive people around. Can't imagine a better bro than Ali.
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DUMMY THICC
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>>7086401
This.
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Rousseau and Madame de Warens. He was 15 and she 29 when they met.
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>>7086392
earliest sources (Ibn Ishaq) say that she wasnt even 30
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>>7086888
She was dependent on him and she had to secure his wellbeing so he can earn and support her. Purely a strategic move.
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>>7087894
>Can't imagine a better bro than Ali.
This.
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>>7088156
Khadijah was far far richer than Prophet Muhammed though, she didn't need him.

>Khadijah became a very successful merchant. It is said that when the Quraysh's trade caravan travelers gathered to embark upon their summer journey to Syria or winter journey to Yemen, Khadijah's caravan equalled the caravans of all other traders of the Quraysh put together
>Khadijah did not travel with her trade caravans; she employed others to trade on her behalf for a commission. In 595 Khadijah needed an agent for a transaction in Syria. She chose Muhammad ibn Abdullah for the trade in Syria
>The experience that Muhammad held working with caravans in his uncle Abu Talib's family business had earned him the honorific titles Al-Sadiq ("the Truthful") and Al-Amin ("the Trustworthy" or "Honest")
>Khadijah hired Muhammad, who was then 25 years old, sending word that she would pay double her usual commission
>She sent one of her servants, Maysarah, to assist him. Upon returning, Maysarah gave accounts of the honorable way that Muhammad had conducted his business, with the result that he brought back twice as much profit as Khadijah had expected
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>>7088206
>Khadijah entrusted a friend named Nafisa to approach Muhammad and ask if he would consider marrying. When Muhammad hesitated because he had no money to support a wife, Nafisa asked if he would consider marriage to a woman who had the means to provide for herself.
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A thread started by degenerates has turned into a holy Islamic thread. I like what this has become.
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>>7088156
Not at all true, she owned the caravan he worked as a mere laborer on. Her wealth enabled him to become a full-time poet. Then when he was in power he turned around and barred women from owning property. Reactionary bastard.
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>>7086377
Eleanor of Aquitaine. She was 30, he was 19. She brought half of fucking France as dowry.
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>>7086392

The internet was so much more likeable before muslims started innundating it with their incessant propaganda; always with the endless butt kissing with you lot.
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>>7086377
The Khitan nomad Empress who defeated the Chinese, castrated 100 pretty Han Chinese boys and made them into her eunuch slave boys.
>The Khitan were a Mongolic steppe nomad people living in Mongolia and Manchuria.
>Khitans founded the Liao dynasty which ruled most of Inner Mongolia, Outer Mongolia and Manchuria.
>Khitan women served in the Liao army and trained in horseback mounted archery.
>The Khitan Xiao Yanyan was chosen by her father over her sisters to become empress because when she was a girl she swept the floors thoroughly, was artistic, and intelligent.
>She was described as beautiful.
>Her father said she was a high minded girl who would become great one day.
>Khitan Empress Xiao Yanyan became regent of the Liao dynasty for her underage son after her husband the emperor died.
>The Empress had a personal army of 10,000 Khitan cavalry which she led into battle.
>Khitan Empress Xiao Yanyan invaded Song dynasty China, defeated the Chinese army in every battle and then kidnapped nearly 100 of the most attractive, prettiest and good looking Han Chinese boys that she could find who were all under 10 years old.
>She brought them back from Song dynasty China to Liao dynasty Mongolia and she did a mass castration on all the boys to make them into her personal eunuch slave boys.
>One of the 100 Han Chinese boy eunuchs was Wang Ji'en from Dizhou and he was a favourite in the Liao palace.
>Empress Xiao Yanyan's armies in another raid kidnapped another Han Chinese boy Zhao Anren from Shenzhou who was castrated and became the favourite personal eunuch slave boy attendant of Khitan Empress Xiao Noujin, a distant cousin of Xiao Yanyan.
>Xiao Yanyan's regnal name was Empress Chengtian and her posthumous name was Empress Ruizhi.
The source is History of Liao (Liaoshi) chapter 109. It calls her Empress Ruizhi. It calls Empress Xiao Noujin as Empress Qin'ai. After the boy eunuchs grow up they were given official duties and titles outside of being servants.
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>>7090511
>Khitan Empresses Xiao Yanyan and Xiao Noujin were both part Turkic from the Uyghur Khaganate.
>Xiao Yanyan's great-grandmother was Shulü Ping. Shuĺü Ping's great-great-grandfather Shulü Nuosi was Turkic man of the Uyghur Khaganate and Shulü Ping's father Shulü Pogu joined the Khitan. Shulü Ping married Khitan Emperor Abaoji.
>Khitan Empress Xiao Noujin was a great-great-granddaughter of Shulü Ping's younger brother Xiao Aghuzhi.
>All Khitan royalty had Turkic Uyghur Khaganate ancestry from the Shulü family.
>Tang dynasty China had destroyed the Uyghur Khaganate of Mongolia in a war forcing the Shulü family to flee to the Khitan and leading to the rise of the Khitan Liao dynasty in Mongolia in the place if the Uyghur Khaganate.
>Xiao Yanyan got revenge for the destruction of the Uyghur Khaganate.

>Xiao Yanyan also forced Song China to sign a treaty paying 200,000 taels of silver, 100,000 bolts of silk every year to Liao Mongolia and send diplomats to the Liao congragulating them on her birthday and new years.
>The Song Emperor had to refer to her as aunt.
>China paid the annual tribute to the Liao for over 120 years after they signed the treaty.
>The Liao dynasty lasted for over 200 years in Mongolia and another 100 years in Central Asia because of the succesful consolidation efforts and victories of Empress Xiao Yanyan. >Empress Xiao Yanyan became Empress Dowager when she was 29 years old after her sick husband Emperor Jingzong died and she becale the official regent of the Liao dynasty for her underage son Emperor Shengzong for over the next thirty years.
>She led her personal Ordo Khitan cavalry army against the Song Chinese when she was in her 30s.
>Xiao Yanyan reformed Liao law by applying the same law code everywhere.

>The eunuchs were deliberately kept around to serve her when Han Chinese Song diplomats arrived at the Liao so the Song were reminded their boys were castrated slaves for Khitan empresses and they could do nothing.
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>Han Chinese eunuch boy Zhao Anren became the Liao Khitan Empress Xiao Noujin's personal favorite eunuch slave attendant and managed domestic palace service for the empresses and concubines.
>Empress Xiao Noujin and Empress Xiao Pusage hated each other so Xiao Noujin ordered Zhao to spy on her.
>After getting caught spying Zhao Anren tried to run away back to Song China because he missed his brothers, mother and father but was caught and returned to the Liao.
>Empress Xiao Yanyan's niece Empress Xiao Pusage tried to have him executed for spying on her on behalf of Empress Xiao Noujin but Xiao Noujin saved him and later forced Xiao Pusage to commit suicide.
>They were from the same Uyghur Khitan Xiao family.
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>>7086377
Manchu women in the Qing imperial palaces had a fetish for castrated Han Chinese boys under 10 years old to use as their personal toilet and bedroom slaves, for very innappropriate duties. Castrated Han Chinese boys under 10 were called tongzhen 通貞 which meant "thoroughly pure" in the palace and they were the only ones allowed into the private apartments of Manchu women in the imperial palaces. They Qing palace preferred atttactive boys to become tongzhen for the women's sake. George Carter Stent said in his article on Chinese eunuchs in the Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society what the women did with the boys was so innappropriate he could not describe it in writing. Each Manchu princess had 30 Han Chinese eunuchs while Empresses, Dowager Empresses and concubines had different numbers of eunuchs according to their ranks. If there was an oversupply of extra eunuchs to the palace the Manchu ladies could select and take as many eunuchs as they needed according to their ranks.

Sometimes Manchu palace maids were married to Han Chinese eunuchs after their service was over. The Manchu maid He Ronger (Hešeri Ronger) married Han Chinese eunuch Liu Xiang (adopted son of eunuch Li Lianying) and there were other cases of eunuchs marrying palace maids. Another Han Chinese eunuch was married to a personal handmaiden of Empress Dowager Cixi and rented a house to the foreigner George Norbert Kates. (Palace maids are not concubines, they are servants like eunuchs and work for the concubines. Concubines never get released from the palace.) Ronger said she didn't mind her husband was a eunuch but hated his smoking addiction. The Qing dynasty didn't count eunuchs and palace maids in it's ban against Banner people and Han civilians marrying. These marriages involved tons of pussy licking.

The Manchu Empress Longyu was rumored to use her younger Han Chinese eunuch Zhang Lande (Xiaode Zhang) as a sex slave. He was eight years younger than her. She had other boy eunuchs.
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>>7090567
This is what George Carter Stent, the British diplomat wrote about them when he was stationed in the Qing.

https://people.well.com/user/aquarius/stent-chineseeunuchs.htm

>All eunuchs are considered pure (chên, 貞 or ch'ing, 清,) but boys who are made eunuchs when under ten years of age are termed " thoroughly pure" (t'ung-chên, 通貞). These are specially prized, and are employed by the ladies of the palace with as much freedom as if they were girls; performing such offices as ought only to be done by women—some of them of a nature it would be impossible to describe here. These boy eunuchs are supposed to be free from the least licentiousness— even in thought;—in fact, they are considered to be devoid of all feeling of that kind whatever. They are commonly called "little eunuchs" (Hsiao-t'ai-chien, 小太监); as they grow up they are not allowed such freedom of intercourse, being replaced by others younger than themselves, while they are employed in such duties as do not bring them into the more private apartments of the ladies.

https://people.well.com/user/aquarius/section1.htm

>There was a distinction between those who were deprived of their sex in childhood and tose who gave it up in their manhood. The latter were called ching or cheng, both words meaning 'pure of body,' and the former were called t'ung cheng, which meant 'pure from birth.' Favored by the court ladies, the t'ung cheng had no work assigned to them and behaved like young girls. Stent hesitates to say what their actual roles were in regard to the ladies, and this is left to the reader's imagination. They were replaced of course by younger ones when they grew older.

Zhang Lande was chosen to be a eunuch for the empress because he looked prety and had delicate fair soft skin.
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>>7090567
This is what George Carter Stent, the British diplomat wrote about them when he was stationed in the Qing.

https://people.well.com/user/aquarius/stent-chineseeunuchs.htm

>All eunuchs are considered pure (chên, 貞 or ch'ing, 清,) but boys who are made eunuchs when under ten years of age are termed " thoroughly pure" (t'ung-chên, 通貞). These are specially prized, and are employed by the ladies of the palace with as much freedom as if they were girls; performing such offices as ought only to be done by women—some of them of a nature it would be impossible to describe here. These boy eunuchs are supposed to be free from the least licentiousness— even in thought;—in fact, they are considered to be devoid of all feeling of that kind whatever. They are commonly called "little eunuchs" (Hsiao-t'ai-chien, 小太监); as they grow up they are not allowed such freedom of intercourse, being replaced by others younger than themselves, while they are employed in such duties as do not bring them into the more private apartments of the ladies.

https://people.well.com/user/aquarius/section1.htm

>There was a distinction between those who were deprived of their sex in childhood and tose who gave it up in their manhood. The latter were called ching or cheng, both words meaning 'pure of body,' and the former were called t'ung cheng, which meant 'pure from birth.' Favored by the court ladies, the t'ung cheng had no work assigned to them and behaved like young girls. Stent hesitates to say what their actual roles were in regard to the ladies, and this is left to the reader's imagination. They were replaced of course by younger ones when they grew older.

Zhang Lande was chosen to be a eunuch for the empress because he looked prety and had delicate fair soft skin.
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>>7090568
Norman A. Kutcher in his book on Qing eunuchs in 'Eunuch and Emperor in the Great Age of Qing Rule', page 12 published by University of California Press.

>There also seems to have been an aesthetic preference for young eunuchs. This is mentioned in a well-known and often-cited article by a Westerner in China, George Stent, who noted the physical attractiveness of young eunuchs, in dramatic contrast with older ones. He also wrote that boy eunuchs were considered completely pure, and were especially prized by female members of the household for duties that were “impossible to describe.”42 This was likely a reference to the boy eunuchs dubbed “earrings,” who were used by the female members of the imperial household for sexual gratification.43 Since these boys were considered pure, such actions were not labeled lascivious.
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>>7087818
What is it?
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>>7086377
Irene of athens
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>>7088150
I'm a Muslim and this is the first time in my entire life that I've read this. All my ancestors probably haven't read anything like this in their lives either. I was taught that she was 45
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>>7091181
>she will never blind you because she wants to rule instead of you
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Tfw you’ll never be nurtured by a shrewd realpolitik mommy gf who will secure your future throne and set you on the path to become the most powerful man in Europe.
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>>7088336
That's not true, pagan arabs made it very hard for women to inherit and the Prophet gave them more rights regarding that and marriage.
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>>7091586
The prophet had several daughters with her so she shouldn't bee too old. She was much older than him when he was 25 but aside from that not much is certain.
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>>7091650
He had no children with any of his other wives except Ibrahim and even he doubted Ibrahim's paternity, seeking "reassurance" from Allah and having Ali check on a potential suspect.
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>>7092913
What is this fanfiction
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>>7086377
The Chinese pirate Zheng Zhilong and his Japanese wife Tagawa Matsu were one of these couples. She was older than him by years according to most accounts of their birthdates and one account says she was a widow before meeting him. Zheng was eighteen when he came to Japan and Tagawa was in her twenties, he was said to have very good looks according to a Japanese account. An account says she met Zheng Zhilong when she saw him crying on the road outside her house after he lost his three coppers which was all she had. She asked him why he was crying and when he told her, she told him his talents were so great that he coule easily earn 3 million so why would he cry over 3 coppers? She then took him into her house for sex that lasted all night and helped him achieve success.
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>>7086888
Have breaking your marriage threaten her life and create a state in which she cannot be self sustaining without you providing for her. This will afford you a moral loophole so that you can convince her that everything she has is there because you graciously gave it to her.
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>>7094691
Zheng Zhilong's son was Zheng Chenggong (Koxinga) and Koxinga's son Zheng Jing loved sex with MILF women when he was a teenager. He had an affair with his baby brother's wet nurse.
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>>7095466
The Chinese pirate Zheng Zhilong's son with the Japanese woman Tagawa Matsu was Zheng Chenggong (Koxinga). Zheng Zhilong had other sons with second Chinese wives in China after he married Tagawa Matsu in Japan.
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>>7090593
>eunuch
how did the young eunuchs satisfy the women if their balls had been cut off?
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>>7086377
Its this faggot again
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Semiramis changed Assyrian law so that she could marry her own son
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>>7096520
decent bait
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>>7086392
Too bad he wasn't loyal to his wife
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>>7096844
He was loyal to all his wives.
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>>7096844
I thought he didnt marry anyone else until she died
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>>7086888
Muhammad got it by working so hard and being such a great merchant that his OL boss married him.
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Madame Pompadour
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>>7096520
Chinese eunuchs didn't have penises either. They had to use their fingers and mouths to orally pleasure the women, dildos, or rub their crotches and bodies with the women.
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>>7087321
>subtle but quite big
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>>7094458
Hadith, Seerah etc.



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