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If the Indo-European world united as one empire, what would be the capital city?
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>>7085465
Either Kiev (since Ukraine is essentially the Aryan homeland) or Tehran (Iran being culturally significant to our race)
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A new city would be built near the site of Arkaim and it would be called Subhumania
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Moscow
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>>7085470
It's Russia, not Ukraine. And it's either right next to the Caucasus or further East near the Caspian and Volga region (Khvalynsk).
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>>7085465
It would be a fucking mess.
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>>7085465
Rome
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According to one theory Indo-European language is a result of Caucasian substrate in proto-Uralic language. Basically PIE were some northern HGs that met Caucasians which caused their language to tranform into PIE (proto-Uralics that did not meet said Caucasians developed into Uralic languages).
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Volgograd or Kiev
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>>7085623
nope
see: >>7085238
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>>7085465
prague - it was the largest and most cultured indoeuropean city for the majority of time
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>>7085806
Kys christcuck. Your LARPbook isn't a credible source.
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>>7085465
Delhi, as it is the only place where Indo Aryan culture is retained today
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Jerevan
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>>7085470
>>7085666
This, it helps Ukraine was famous for being super fertile
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>>7085465
Salt Lake City.
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I think creating a new city just north of the caucasus would be ideal.
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>>7085601
By all measures, Italy makes the most sense.
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>>7085623
That is possible, but the people who support this theory have to drop all pretentions of a south of the Caucasus input. The Caucasus input would have come from CHG living north of the Caucasus just after the ice age ended. Perhaps them being freed from the Caucasus ice sheets translated to the thunderer defeating the ice serpent.
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>>7085465
London.
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>>7085465
Stevaspol, or Panticapaeum if we're going archaeic. It's been home to most of the important IE's: indo-Iranian Scythians, Greeks, Romans, Germanic Goths, and Slavs
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>>7085601
Quebec doesn't speak Indo-European? Well shit. I thought they were speaking French there.
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Damn bros... Just imagine if we united and built an Aryan capital supercity in our ancient homeland on the Northern part of the black sea...

We could reclaim Hungary, Turkey, Central Asia and Western China for our ancestors...
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>>7086766
The larp is getting sort of cringe now. Most of your ancestors weren't who you think they were.
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>>7086766
>>7086791
That being said, I wouldn't be upset if you retake Istanbul, the only issue is that it would suddenly make Greeks a minority in their own country.
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>>7085470
>>7086525
>ukraine
No such thing.
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Something like Johannesburg or Los Angeles, because it would be as muttified as IEs are.
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>>7086791
>>7086797
I'm just shitposting honestly. Isn't globular amphora Indo-European derived?
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>>7086835
>>7086791
Also I wouldn't say its completely a LARP, considering how much IE admixture there is in the modern populations, plus how prevalent the IE paternal DNA is also, and then considering how all our ancestors adopted IE derived culture. Which kinda slowly evolved in to different cultures in Europe/Iran/India.
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>>7086835
Globular Amphora was like 3/4ths ENF + 1/4ths WHG.
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>>7086806
>>7085588
Better get used to it being THE Slavic country you m*scovite mutts and I'm not even an ukrop
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>>7086918
What's interesting is that there were half WHG half ENF in 3550 BC.

"sample": "DEU_Blatterhohle_MN:Average",
"fit": 2.3604,
"WHG": 56.67,
"Anatolia_Barcin_N": 43.33,
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>>7087010
What culture was this sample from?
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>>7085465
wherever the largest bank is
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>>7086533
god damn mormon scum
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>>7086687
Where exactly CHG came from it's hard to tell. Hunter gatherers living on the steppe acquired from someone domesticated animals. Looking at other examples, it seems like such change in life always occurred after mixing with original farmers/herders. Hunter-gatherers didn't just pick herding by looking at actual herders. I think we should test more Khvalynsk samples and especially steppe groups with bones of domestic animals. Because I'm almost certain that this technology came from the South.
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>>7086797
>implying we'd let the Turks stay
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>>7086989
Try /x/.
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Volgograd.

You can even say that the battle of Stalingrad was a battle between Aryans and subhuman farmer Germanoids.
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>>7087018
Not sure, google "Blatterhohle".
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>all those retards fetishizing the absolute shithole that is Russia because of muh PIE
lol
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>>7087089
The Aryans were led by their CHG emperor. The Germans were led by their ANA leader. The CHG emperor won and caused the ANA king to commit suicide.
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Somewhere near lake Baikal, of course we'd need to remove the locals.
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>>7085465
Tabriz
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>>7086835
arent they just corded ware?
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>>7087508
Genetically they are very different. We have now plenty of GAC samples and they are all similar to other farmers unlike CWC which is mostly steppe-like.
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>>7087569
CWC itself has substantial EEF admixture and is close to being half farmer.
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why all the obsession with indo-europeans? they're steppe niggers who turned you all into rape babies
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>>7087608
>more than half of the world speaks their language
>R1b and R1a are probably the most wide-spread paternal haplogroups in the world
And then there is Germanic autism from 19th and early 20th century.
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>>7087748
>Germanic autism
It's time to go lad.
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>>7087748
>more than half of the world speaks their language
Nobody speaks PIE today. Everyone speaks a creole language compared to them.
>R1b and R1a are probably the most wide-spread paternal haplogroups in the world
They are quickly declining. It seems that O2, O3, E1b1a will dominate the numbers.
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>>7087769
R1a is still the most common haplogroup in India.
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Lahore, Delhi or Dhaka
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>>7087841
It's not. It's 5-10% of total Indian population.
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>>7087848
It's around 20%, which is some 200 million people.
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>>7087859
Nope, wrong again. It's 20% among the Brahmin caste and Kalash. You have to remember that r1a is a minority haplogroup even among Indo-Aryan Indics, including Dravidians and Assamese, it sinks to 5-10% total.
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>>7087866
It's literally the most common haplogroup in India.
>20% among the Brahmin
Some Brahmin groups are 70-80% of R1a.
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>>7087946
It's a small minority haplogroup. Among Brahmins it's only 20%, I'm sure if you find a family of r1a brahmins you'll find 70-80% there. In total r1a is the haplogroup for 50 million Indians. Haplogroups like C, J, L, etc are more common, but no haplogroup has a majority in India.
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>>7087962
What is even your source? According to Wikipedia your numbers are completely wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_South_Asia

Trivedi 2007 and Sengupta 2006 seem to include most Indian groups. Both show similar results:

R1a - 28.3/27.3%
H - 23/26%
O - 18/23.9% (obviously thanks to the expansion of Munda people)

And only then there is L (17/18%), R2 (13/9%) and J (9%).
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>>7087769
BTW O2 and O3 birthrates are crashing as well.

>>7087841
Depends on the caste in question.
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>>7088011
It's one of the most common in virtually all castes - and also in both South and North India. But of course it dominates upper castes. Most Indian populations are at least 15-20% R1a.
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>>7085465
What era is it? That's pretty much the primary determining factor.
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>>7087997
The studies are disagreeing with you. Brahmins and upper castes are only 20%, Indo-Aryan speakers are almost 20% r1a, but r1a is nearly nothing among the other groups like Dravidians, Munda, Assamese, etc.
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>>7088011
>BTW O2 and O3 birthrates are crashing as well.
It'll take longer for them to be harmed by that.
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>>7088141
And I asked you what studies. Please post them.
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>>7087596
We latvian bvlls are no farmers. My ancestors were warriors and conquerors.
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>>7088164
Cordaux 2004 and Zhao 2009.
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>>7088179
Your ancestors were Baltic HG's and EEF who got conquered, your steppe input is the same as the rest of Eastern/Northern Europe's 1/3.
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>>7085465
Helsinki
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>>7088187
Lies. My ancestors beat the steppe n*ggers and bred their women. There's a reason why my people where the last to surrender to semitic death cult.
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>>7088183
The numbers are somewhat different in Cordaux, but R1a is still the most common Indian haplogroup (16.9%).

And from Zhao:
>Haplogroup R1, which was observed 133 times, was the most frequent (23.8%) and was found in all five populations. The frequency in each population was 24.0% (Bhargavas), 23.9% (Chaturvedis), 29.7% (Brahmins), 15.6% (Shias) and 28.8% (Sunnis), respectively (Figure 1).
15-30% in every group.
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>>7088261
Even still
H - 20%
L - 20%
R1a - 16%

It's a minority haplogroup and not the most common like you falsely stated.
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>>7085603
The Eternal City is the only correct answer.
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>>7086791
LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUU
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>>7088179
Baltic troglodytes didn’t conquer shit
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>>7088869
They conquered Slavic women didn't they?
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>>7085588
It would be essentially a bit inland from Astrakhan
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>>7086791
>Peak Yamnaya is a Uralic speaker

wew hahahahaa
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>>7085465
Athenes
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>>7087596
They were 80% steppe.
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>>7086718
The lower part does the rest speaks Inuit
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>>7091159
The lower part's not included in that image, either, though.
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>>7086533
Based and redpilled
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>>7086791
As expected, Russians are the true descendants of the steppe.



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