ITT: Wars where the good guys lost.
>>6916856They were only the 'good guys' because their win would have been a fast one(Schlieffen plan success) andnnot the catastrophe it ended up being
>>6917102American "revolution" was a counter revolution by the slave owning elite to the British who wanted to end the salve trade and make peace of the Native Americans.
>>6916920they crimes of the Anglo were too numerous to count and they wanted to destroy Germany as a potential economic threat.
>>6917122Napoleon II was the bad guy of the 19th century.Germany was the good guy during that war.
>>6916861Neither the French Republic or Napoleon were the good guys. The only sad thing about this war is the England hegemony, but thanks to the French defeat the World have a good time before WW1 and modernist destroyed everything.
>>6917132You can literally call Napoleon III anything from an idiotic fool to one of the greatest French statesmen but you certainly cannot call him a bad guy.
>>6917132>Prussia orchestrates à war with Denmark, followed by a war with Austria followed by a war with France which they also orchestrated.>all for some kind of pseudo scientific ethnic hardon.Yeah sure sound like the good guys
>>6917151>but you certainly cannot call him a bad guy.>pre-Napoleon III in power>Europe is at peace>after>was basically Augusto Pinochet, both economically and domestic>CRIMEA>MEXICO>ITALIAN WARS OF UNIFICATION>STARTING SHIT WITH PRUSSIAFrance started shit with Prussia and got it's shit slapped
>>6917132>Napoleon IIHe had been dead for 40 years.
>>6917160>followed by a war with FranceFrance started the Franco-Prussian War.
>>6917133In what world was Napoleon not the good guy?
what are the best books on austria-hungary?someone here has to have good recs
>>6917164Oh yeah 1848 was a peaceful year if I’ve ever seen one. And let’s also disregard Spain, and Portugal, and Belgium, and the Balkans...>was basically Augusto PinochetThat’s one of the oddest comparisons I’ve ever seen. Even Porfirio Diaz would be a better comparison if you are South American, and even then Napoleon III was much more socialy minded and interventionist in his economic and public policies than those two.>starting shit with PrussiaYeah they hadn’t been starting shit with basically all their neighbors, and Bismarck is a saint I get it
>>6917169keyword : orchestrated
>>6916861Beat me to it. Based reply though.>>6917235I smelled this reply coming the moment I saw the post.
>>6917215pic related is the "quintessential" book.beyond that, For God and Kaiser is bretty good, though the author's austriaboo tendencies shine through in a number of places. It's still interesting reading military history where Austria is the protagonist rather than everyone else's punching bag.
Saddam was the good guy in all of these wars.
>>6917263are there any books that talk about austria-hungary specific things that disappeared after it separated or things in that vein?
>>6916856>war mongering idiotsNo.>>6917122I hate krauts but Bimarck is based, so no.>>6917235I agree, Japan should have won.>>6917439>>6916861Based.
>>6917439>Guy who toppled Saddam's statue had his brothers killed by Saddam but he wishes he'd come back for how shit the country is nowWrong timeline
>>6916856The thirty year war
>>6916856the hundred years war
>>6917108Those slave-owing elites like John Adams and Alexander Hamilton...Walt shit
>>6917164>basically augosto pinochet But napoleon III did care for france
>>6917235>>6917262>>6917468Morons. I’m sure you’d love a world of Nazis and Nips.
They lost 90% of their male population but fought on to the bitter end against impossible odds.
>>6919254seriously, we would be speaking german if these bigots got their way, could you imagine
>>6919578someone post the article about all the fags and trannies in the wehrmacht
>>6919578what makes this worse than the millions of women and children who were raped and murdered by krauts in their great 1939-45 chimpout?
>>6919601because one is horrible acts committed during a war that would have ended eventually either way and one is 24 hour a day 7 days a week nightmare that you cant wake up from that will never end for the rest of human existence, barring the unlikely successful rise of another challenger like hitler i suppose
>>6919578If germans had they way, i doubt i would be speaking at allt. Russian
>>6919611>millions of civilian casualties, rapes, murders, atrocitiesI sleep>A small percentage of degenerates being degeneratesREAL SHIT?
>>6919631>Small percentage even if we except that blatant attempt at minimizing the situation, were talking about for the rest of human existence here vs 5 years, even if it was only a small percentage of people who have fallen prey, it will add up, hell, has likely already added up to a lot more than a few million
>>6919640>exceptbait or retardedalso>implying that degenerates are a new thing and haven't been around foreveronly reason we focus on it today is because it's easier to interact with the retards
>>6919652>it's easier to interact with the retardsHeh, you got him good. Because right now you are interacting with retard from /pol/.
>>6919652by all means provide evidence western society has always been as deeply dysfunctional on an individual basis and self destructive as it is now
step aside, unironic answer coming through.
>>6917108>end the salve tradesadly the southern ointment factories continued to produce cheap, effective creams and balms which left the entire region extremely smooth and moisturized for several centuries
>>6919667There has always been gaysThere has always been tranniesThere has always been weird peopleIt's just that now they can get exposure via mass communication.I would bet to say that you think crossdressers are self destructive/degenerate. Crossdressers have been around forever, and were prominent in the so-called anti-degenerate wehrmacht (See that book that is posted on this board every other thread). The only difference between now and then is that back then we either killed em or shamed em.To be honest the only degenerate here is you because you're a massive faggot
While the Kingdom and the modern Islamic Republic are both authoritarian regimes with democracy as window dressing, the Shah wasn't half as batshit crazy as Khomeini.
>>6919701i never said these things literally never existed at all, i said society has never been as deeply infected with the problems it faces now, and the problems go well beyond just state enforced lgbbq shit anyway
>>6916856Rome. I know its not a singular war but I'll lump it all together. Fucking barbarians ruined one of the greatest places of all the world.
>>6919254Can you imagine the horror?
The Great Northern War
>>6919614We're all grieving, trust me
>>6920698I know, right? Whole board was created for grieving losers who can't accept that german subhumans were BTFO. By the way, you have to go back on that board :)
>>6919684Yup, this set Russia in the line of eurasian-turkic civilization to this day.
>>6916856Every war the germans and turks lost was a war the good guys lost desu.
>>6916856Why two flags behind Willy?
>>6920799One is the national flagThe other one is the war flag mostly used as the navy flag
>>6916856>Ottomans>Austria>Good guysAnon I-
>>6916856I know Yugoslavia was socialist but they didn't deserve what happened to them in the Yugoslavia civil war...