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ITT: Wars where the good guys lost.
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>>6916856
They were only the 'good guys' because their win would have been a fast one(Schlieffen plan success) andnnot the catastrophe it ended up being
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>>6917102
American "revolution" was a counter revolution by the slave owning elite to the British who wanted to end the salve trade and make peace of the Native Americans.
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>>6916856
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>>6916920
they crimes of the Anglo were too numerous to count and they wanted to destroy Germany as a potential economic threat.
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>>6917122
Napoleon II was the bad guy of the 19th century.

Germany was the good guy during that war.
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>>6916861
Neither the French Republic or Napoleon were the good guys. The only sad thing about this war is the England hegemony, but thanks to the French defeat the World have a good time before WW1 and modernist destroyed everything.
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>>6917132
You can literally call Napoleon III anything from an idiotic fool to one of the greatest French statesmen but you certainly cannot call him a bad guy.
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>>6917132
>Prussia orchestrates à war with Denmark, followed by a war with Austria followed by a war with France which they also orchestrated.
>all for some kind of pseudo scientific ethnic hardon.

Yeah sure sound like the good guys
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>>6917151
>but you certainly cannot call him a bad guy.

>pre-Napoleon III in power
>Europe is at peace

>after
>was basically Augusto Pinochet, both economically and domestic
>CRIMEA
>MEXICO
>ITALIAN WARS OF UNIFICATION
>STARTING SHIT WITH PRUSSIA

France started shit with Prussia and got it's shit slapped
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>>6917132
>Napoleon II
He had been dead for 40 years.
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>>6917160
>followed by a war with France

France started the Franco-Prussian War.
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>>6917133
In what world was Napoleon not the good guy?
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Karl XII
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what are the best books on austria-hungary?
someone here has to have good recs
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>>6917164
Oh yeah 1848 was a peaceful year if I’ve ever seen one. And let’s also disregard Spain, and Portugal, and Belgium, and the Balkans...

>was basically Augusto Pinochet
That’s one of the oddest comparisons I’ve ever seen. Even Porfirio Diaz would be a better comparison if you are South American, and even then Napoleon III was much more socialy minded and interventionist in his economic and public policies than those two.

>starting shit with Prussia
Yeah they hadn’t been starting shit with basically all their neighbors, and Bismarck is a saint I get it
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>>6917169
keyword : orchestrated
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>>6916861
Beat me to it. Based reply though.
>>6917235
I smelled this reply coming the moment I saw the post.
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>>6917215
pic related is the "quintessential" book.

beyond that, For God and Kaiser is bretty good, though the author's austriaboo tendencies shine through in a number of places. It's still interesting reading military history where Austria is the protagonist rather than everyone else's punching bag.
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Saddam was the good guy in all of these wars.
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>>6917263
are there any books that talk about austria-hungary specific things that disappeared after it separated or things in that vein?
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>>6916856
>war mongering idiots
No.

>>6917122
I hate krauts but Bimarck is based, so no.

>>6917235
I agree, Japan should have won.

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>>6916861
Based.
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>>6917439
>Guy who toppled Saddam's statue had his brothers killed by Saddam but he wishes he'd come back for how shit the country is now
Wrong timeline
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>>6916856
The thirty year war
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>>6916856
the hundred years war
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>>6917108
Those slave-owing elites like John Adams and Alexander Hamilton...Walt shit
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>>6917164
>basically augosto pinochet
But napoleon III did care for france
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>>6918700
This
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>>6917235
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>>6917468
Morons. I’m sure you’d love a world of Nazis and Nips.
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They lost 90% of their male population but fought on to the bitter end against impossible odds.
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>>6919254
seriously, we would be speaking german if these bigots got their way, could you imagine
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>>6919578
someone post the article about all the fags and trannies in the wehrmacht
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>>6919578
what makes this worse than the millions of women and children who were raped and murdered by krauts in their great 1939-45 chimpout?
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>>6919601
because one is horrible acts committed during a war that would have ended eventually either way and one is 24 hour a day 7 days a week nightmare that you cant wake up from that will never end for the rest of human existence, barring the unlikely successful rise of another challenger like hitler i suppose
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>>6919578
If germans had they way, i doubt i would be speaking at all
t. Russian
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>>6919611
>millions of civilian casualties, rapes, murders, atrocities
I sleep
>A small percentage of degenerates being degenerates
REAL SHIT?
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>>6919631
>Small percentage

even if we except that blatant attempt at minimizing the situation, were talking about for the rest of human existence here vs 5 years, even if it was only a small percentage of people who have fallen prey, it will add up, hell, has likely already added up to a lot more than a few million
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>>6919640
>except
bait or retarded
also
>implying that degenerates are a new thing and haven't been around forever
only reason we focus on it today is because it's easier to interact with the retards
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>>6919652
>it's easier to interact with the retards
Heh, you got him good. Because right now you are interacting with retard from /pol/.
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>>6919652
by all means provide evidence western society has always been as deeply dysfunctional on an individual basis and self destructive as it is now
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step aside, unironic answer coming through.
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>>6917108
>end the salve trade
sadly the southern ointment factories continued to produce cheap, effective creams and balms which left the entire region extremely smooth and moisturized for several centuries
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>>6919667
There has always been gays
There has always been trannies
There has always been weird people
It's just that now they can get exposure via mass communication.
I would bet to say that you think crossdressers are self destructive/degenerate. Crossdressers have been around forever, and were prominent in the so-called anti-degenerate wehrmacht (See that book that is posted on this board every other thread). The only difference between now and then is that back then we either killed em or shamed em.
To be honest the only degenerate here is you because you're a massive faggot
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While the Kingdom and the modern Islamic Republic are both authoritarian regimes with democracy as window dressing, the Shah wasn't half as batshit crazy as Khomeini.
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>>6919701
i never said these things literally never existed at all, i said society has never been as deeply infected with the problems it faces now, and the problems go well beyond just state enforced lgbbq shit anyway
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>>6916856
Rome. I know its not a singular war but I'll lump it all together. Fucking barbarians ruined one of the greatest places of all the world.
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>>6919254
Can you imagine the horror?
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>>6917122
t. fr*nk
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The Great Northern War
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>>6919614
We're all grieving, trust me
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>>6920698
I know, right? Whole board was created for grieving losers who can't accept that german subhumans were BTFO. By the way, you have to go back on that board :)
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>>6919684
Yup, this set Russia in the line of eurasian-turkic civilization to this day.
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>>6916856
Every war the germans and turks lost was a war the good guys lost desu.
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>>6916856
Why two flags behind Willy?
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>>6920799
One is the national flag
The other one is the war flag mostly used as the navy flag
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>>6916856
>Ottomans
>Austria
>Good guys
Anon I-
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>>6916856
I know Yugoslavia was socialist but they didn't deserve what happened to them in the Yugoslavia civil war...



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