it's true that gangs had been a normal thing through history.
>>6913929Is this a question or a statement?
>>6913936Then yesLike the basically hooligans that supported the various chariot teams in Constantinople
not 'normal' but yeah there have been gangs and organized crime for many years
>>6913929so yous be sayin blood and cripz been here foreva muhfugga?
>>6913929>organizations of men linked by common blood/origin/or credence banded together to defend themselves against violence, or do some pillaging themselves for glory and richesYes>criminal drug smuggling syndicatezNk
Sure. In Ancient Athens, it was Common knowledge that some there were gangs that organized in „workshops“ to commit mostly fraud.
>>6913929Define 'normal'. Criminals who work together have been around for pretty much as long as we have records for criminals.
>>6913929For most of human history there was no difference between gangs and regular people. Every tribe or clan was a gang. Every king started as a gang leader.
>>6913929Gangs were mostly organized high IQ sociopaths not the wild animals in American or Latin American ghettos.
There has only been criminals for as long there has been laws.Chekmate satists, this proves anarchy rigth.*tips fedora*Drop acid, get back to nature, you are just energy flowing through universe.
>>6913929No. Criminal gangs showed up only when a settled society built on laws showed up.A piratical tribe of sea-nomads may look like organized crime, but they aren't.
>>6915960>pirates>not organized criminalsYou cant be serious
Caravaggio was involved in one
>>6915925Gangs in America (including Latin America) are ruled by highly intelligent sociopaths. The dumb fucks are just muscle, the average soldier isn't particularly bright anywhere.
>>6915960>people who work together to commit crimes, with clearly established ranks and specialities, isn't organised crime
>>6913936Yes. Even the Roman Republic had them.
>>6913973>>6913929Compounding this, many other primates, monkeys in particular, form "gangs" of young males at prime breeding age who don't have offspring yet. These gangs harass one another for mates and food and prime leisure spots. Im trying to think of the particular species i watched in a nature documentary, i believed its the Tibetan Macaque.Chimpanzees are also known to be incredibly violent and tribalistic. This sort of behavior just seems engrained in us primates.
>>6913980>tattoo gang bad>sword gang good
>>6916202That depresses me
Yes. People organize into common interests. Some gangs are "legitimate"
>>6916046I said "piratical tribes" shit like Vikings, my picture, or Sea People.Are Nomad armies on a raiding campaign bandits too?
>>6916322they're just pretending to be friendly and united but in reality they are all at each others' throats and don't give a shit about each other
Yes. Governments started out as nothing more than legitimized gangs to whom the most people pay protection money too.
>>6916063How the fuck do they rule anything without being shanked by some nigger brute?
>>6916383Because they’re smart
>>6916383Same way as any other ruler: cultivate loyalties through distribution of wealth and social privileges, maintain image of strength and invulnerability, appeal to us vs them grug brain dynamics. There is a reason a lot of the people swept up into these groups throughout history are listless younger men with insecurity problems and no opportunities and these tactics help appeal to that very human sense of belonging and social prestige.
>>6916214exactly true, because swords are cool and tattoos are notthat a change of aesthetics renders your movement unappealing is one of the key problems of barbarism
>>6916383You never get shanked by a brute. You get shanked by another sociopath who wants your spot or your stuff. If some dumb brute actually starts getting any funny ideas the boss will put him straight once he finds out.
Gangs are the natural result of ethnic groups not feeling safe in society and thus feel a need to protect themselves.
>>6916344wow just like a street gang
During the last years of the Roman Republic politicians like Clodius would use gangs to intimidate other politicians and their clients.
>>6913929They are totally normal, yes. But only normal in larger urban environments. Smaller farming communities might have a criminal family, but that's all it is: one bad family. Roman gangs had graffiti akin to what we had today, and the urban slums produced large amounts of members. Problem is, capital punishment was very much a thing in the pre-modern world, so the number of "gangsters" never got above a certain amount. The fact that we have several cartels on each continent with thousands of core members and tens of thousands of auxiliaries is unheard of in history
>>6913980cringe and wrong
>>6916758Which outsider ethnic group do the Cammora, Yazuka and London Firms come from?
>>6916758Explain all the black gangs in black nations then.
>>6916383It depends on the environment, if we look at some Bronze Age war band then the leader is probably at least as physically imposing as any brute under their command but they probably had superior intelligence that allowed them to avoid being trapped alone with a discontented physically superior subordinate. With modern mafia organizations its different intelligence is required to organize grey market and large scale trafficking operations, to interface with owned politicians, law enforcement, legal professionals, financial managers. If you kill them then the whole system collapses or the smart vicious psychopath who was waiting for a power vacuum will simply take over.
>>6916676Have you not seen yakuza tattoos?
>>6917067>CamorraItalians under Spanish rule>YakuzaKoreans and Burakumin>London FirmsAnglo-Saxons under Norman rule
>>6917069Niggers aren't monolithic you retard
>>6917407They use microkernels? Based.