I know beauty is subjective, but it seems to me that there are certain things that are universally considered "beautiful" traits in humanity, no matter the time period or the cultureI believe most humans see wide noses, very short hairs(with women), dark skin(with women), and prognathic jaws as "ugly". Light-hairs and eyes are also widely considered beautiful because of the purity that it inspires.My claims are mostly supported by the data, especially those about skin pigmentation. A 1986 report published in the journal Ethnic and Racial Studies, anthropologists Pierre van den Berghe dusted off some understudied ethnographic archives contained in the Yale-based Human Relations Area Files, and found that in the great majority of societies for which there is data, lighter skinned females do in fact feature as the beauty ideal, whereas no clear pattern emerges for female’s preferences for male skin tone :https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01419870.1986.9993516Thoughts?
>>6767571I'm from the middle east and here for men the best skin tone is light-medium caramel. Too dark and they'll call you a laborer but if you're too light and they'll call you a woman.
Facial symmetry and sexual dimorphism determines beauty. Everything else is subjective preference.
>>6767620>straightened hair>plastic surgeryCurly hair is objectively ugly which is why 99.99% of black women straighten it
>>6767571>I know beauty is subjectivePeople who believe this make the world an ugly place.
>>6767756>straightened hairSome Africans have naturally straight hair.>plastic surgerySource for your claims.
>>6767921>Some Africans have naturally straight hair.Citation needed, the only ones without super curly hair are east African arab mutts>Source for your claimsCommon sense
>>6767905People who don't believe this to he true are retarded. There are many cultural standards throughout history that we'd find completely alien or disgusting, like Japanese blackened teeth.
>>6767992I don't think the blackened teeth are ugly at all, I think it's more about how open minded you are desu
>>6767992Blackened teeth aren't particularly ugly from an objective point of view.
>>6767571>I believe most humans see wide noses, very short hairs(with women), dark skin(with women), and prognathic jaws as "ugly"You aren't very good at hiding your racism.
>>6767571>but it seems to me that there are certain things that are universally considered "beautiful"Like me.
>>6767571Humans are not beautiful, thats your simian egoism talking. A marble statue is beautiful, a tundra is beautiful, and the gaseous remains of a supernova are beautiful but humans are not beautiful.
>>6767620You have a white piece of paper and a brown one, which color catchs your attention first?
>>6767992>Japanese blackened teethYour pic is a vietnamese woman t.vietfag
>>6768152>Humans are not beautiful>A marble statue is beautifulSo not a marble statue of a human being then ?
>>6767992Thats fetish not beauty.
>>6768185A lone marble rock is already beautiful. The marble statue of a human is only beautiful because its made of marble not its human shape.
>>6768196If you can make the human shape beautiful by building it from another material, it means it has an inherent potential for beauty. For example a marble shit will never be beautiful.
>>6768210Yes a marble shit would be beautiful. You know something is beautiful when its visually pleasing and you get any sexual feelings towards it.
>>6768224*dont get any sexual feelings
>>6767571>I know beauty is subjectivethats just a cope, that girl is cute everywhere in the world at any point in history
A piece of shit spray painted gold or silver would be beautiful.
>>6768157Depends which color paper I'm unaccustomed to seeing.
>>6767571Facial symmetry is probably the only universal (in terms of different cultures) trait that is considered beautiful
>>6768157It depends, background? Time of the day? Lighting? I'm sure white bed sheets and the brown one would make for a lot of contrast.
>>6768076Bait has grown impotent these days.
>>6768279>arab mutts>Citation neededWhy are you even in this board if you don't know basic shit like that dumbass?
>>6767980> arab muttsCitation needed>Common senseIf that's what you call it then common sense isn't so common as is believed.
>>6768294>Caucasoid admixture means arabDon't embarrass yourself further
>>6767571It's not all that subjective; the wisdom of the crowd has already answered this question. Look at pornography; that will generally tell you what people want.If there's one singular constant, it's pretty faces. Look at drawn pornography: ugly women are very, very rarely created on purpose.
>>6767756that's a white thot in blackface, fucking racist bitch
>>6768259>the only universal (in terms of different cultures) trait that is considered beautifulNot true. Studies have shown that all men find certain features like a certain hip-to-waist ratio, youthful features, clear skin and shiny hair attractive regardless of their background.
>>6768294According to you Bantus are the only real blacks. Too bad reality debunks you. Not surprising the people with the most diverse gene pool would possess different phenotypes.
>>6768152This. I saw the thread about cavemen, then I look in the mirror and realize that I do, in fact, look like a chimp
>>6768330She's south Sudanese.
>>6768338I'm talking about faceBut yeah smooth skin is another one i forgot
>>6768321This is going to shock you but...a woman can be beautiful while not being sexy, and a woman can be sexy but not be beautiful. Also pornography is a pretty poor indicator of what people find beautiful. IT IS, however, a good way of finding out what people find sexy.
>>6768338>all menI doubt it. >over half of menMore believableI'm gonna need the study, anon. Things like hair shine and youthful features I'm skeptical about being universal. Tons of guys prefer women who look a little more weathered or even masculine. I remember a thread on /s/ dedicated to "handsome" women with stronger features and bearing the signs of maturity. It had just as much attention as any other thread. Hip-to-waist ratio is a sexual signaler which is correlated, but not interchangeable with beauty.
>>6768374I find greek statues beautiful but not sexy, i find cute sexy
>>6768152offering a ridiculous and unsubstantiated opinion with no explanation whatsoever? i like it .
>>6768321porn is fucking disgusting after you bust the nut
>>6768394does this arouse you?
For the non pedos which gets your attention visually more? A black child or a blonde child?
>>6768471Why children? You could have easily asked about black and blonde women. Steath pedo kys.
>>6768471fuck off CIA glow in the dark nigger
>>6768471Black, they're rarer here
>>6768487Because you arent sexually attracted to children so asking this question for women would lead to muh dik bias. Its simple which one would get your eye attention more or steal the show to say.
>>6768224>You know something is beautiful when its visually pleasing and you get any sexual feelings towards it.
>>6767620Except she'd be more attractive without black skin.
>>6768076That's not racism it's just the truth. Even Black Americans tend to say that North-East Africans and Fulanis are the most beautiful people in Africa, because sub-consciously they like Caucasoid features. The other day I was on a Discord and the Black Americans there were talking about how "them redbones and them mixed girls are bad asf, much more than them dark skin girls" and some dude responded "yes especially them latina redbones from Cuba they bad asf".Pic related. Do you prefer the Congoid girl or the Somali Caucasoid one? Tell me honestly
>>6771365fuck off zoomali literally everybody in africa hates youthis is also a zoomali girl btw:https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZviBt5Uy7Uc
>>6771439>The exception is the rule.
>>6771365Proof that the person to the left is not a man?
>>6768346>According to you Bantus are the only real blacks. Which is true, Ethiopians are mixed with middle easterners and they're less than 50% black on average and we all know that they're the best looking """blacks""" because of that
>>6772765>Which is trueSo this non-Bantu person isn't Black?
>>6772776If he has non-black admixture he's a mutt
>>6772786You said only Bantu are real Blacks. The guy I posted isn't Bantu. Is he Black?(pic related, another non-Bantu African, is he also not Black?)
>>6772865They aren't Bantu, and they don't have non-Black admixture.Your original statement :>Bantus are the only real blacks>Which is trueAre those non-Bantu blacks not "real Blacks"?
>>6772886>and they don't have non-Black admixture.proofs?
>>6772926One is Mandinka and the other is Dogon, groups that are not known to have non-African admixture most of the time. Pic related are Yoruba guys who are also not known to have non-African admixture and are usually used as samples for "African" ancestry in DNA studies because of this (and they are not Bantu)So again, do you stand by this statement :>Bantus are the only real blacks?
>>6772992See >>6768294, only the ones without caucasian admixture are black
>>6773009You said :>only Bantu are real BlacksDo you stand by your statement?
>>6771365Black Americans are heavily exposed to western beauty standards. Kek.
>>6770663Yes that is beautiful and sexy at the same time.
>>6773057African blacks like light skinned blacks the most though.
>>6773009Why is it assumed that Africans have Caucasian admixture and not that it's Caucasians that have African admixture? Afterall,the consensus is that blacks came first before migrating out.
>>6771062This is what is known as an opinion. You are entitled to it.
>>6767756>Curly hair is objectively uglyCurly hair is hot as fuck!Especially on white women(and no, i dont mean mullatas)t.Euro
>>6774709How curly you talking? I can't see a white woman with an Afro.
>>6767756im black with naturally straight hair though... (im Somali)
>>6771365Oh its zoomali bro comparing random girls to models with covered in makeup and beauty products
>>6768299somalis are an ancient mixture, it happened thousands of years ago. these groups are now extinct, and we've stayed within our own ethnic group since then so, were pretty pure lol, thats also why we look sooo alike bc thousands of years of no admixture !
>>6775982that girl is a youtuber and is a pretty underaverage somali girl
>>6767571Light skin implies someone who can afford to stay out of the sun. Like a full figure once implied a wealthy woman, and still continues to be a mark of beauty in some cultures.
>>6775982>>6775989These girls are dark skinned but their skin is similarly light as noted just above. They don't get any sun. No wind or sun damage. They're fucktoys, trophy wives.
>>6776000>underaverageShe's super cute, no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>>6776000What ever helps you cope
>>6776014>their skin is similarly light Not him but wtf? How are they light?
>>6776014Black don't crack
>>6767571only retarded people base their claims on statistics
>>6771365Black Americans'd probably say that American culture has cemented those ideals in their subconscious. Unless you can find a way to raise people in a cultural vacuum you have no way of knowing what people are instinctively attracted to, and if you do manage to raise people in a cultural vacuum you will probably just end up with a small horde of beasts that only look like humans.
>>6776146Really speaks to how much of a shithole this place is when a post that simply displays common sense and basic logic looks like a 200 IQ post and genuinely surprises me.
>>6771365Even with makeup still has lightbulb headKek
>>677623Her head shape is very normal.Not sure how makeup can change the shape of a person's head anyway. You didn't put much thought into this joke anon
>>6772786Damn near every fucking human being in sub-Saharan Africa has non-black admixture, you stupid fucking faggot.
>>6775852He means curly as in type 3 hair. Afro-textured/kinky-curly is type 4.
>>6776014>that >light skinIs this you?
>>6775995Inbreeding also helps.
>>6767571Yeah niggers are ugly.
>>6767571Those who believe that beauty is subjective imply that pic related can be considered beautiful.
>>6779700Beauty is subjective, ugliness is univseral
>>6773009Caucasians are black though
>>6780062This. The original inhabitants of southern Europe(and most of Asia) were black.