How should West Asia's borders be fixed?
>>6626071Obviously by creating a big muslim caliphate
fixed europe as well
>>6626088Uhh, that would actually be a great thing because the Caliph could tell his Akhbar Entourage to pause their Jihad and chill out with all the terrorism and shit. The Ottomans did this until their collapse.
>>6626106top fucking kek
>>6626071Restore the Byzantine Empire.
>>6626071This is the only "fixed map" I've seen that I can actually agree with.One small critique though:It's not a huge turn off for me, but personally I would give Persia's Arab holdings back to Iraq (the small plataeu by the coast occupied by Arabs).
>egyptGiving Israel the Sinai makes no sense. It has historically always been a part of Egypt, even long before the Israelites and never had a significant Jewish minority. Egypt's borders are fine the way they are.>israelTake away the Sinai and keep only half of Jordan including the Dead Sea. Too much Arabian land.>phoenciaBasically fine although that border jut in with Assyria bothers me.>greeceThey should only have Thrace, Western Anatolia and Cyprus. Central Anatolia was never Greek.>armeniaToo much land. They only ever populated Eastern Anatolia.>assyria/iraqMesopotamia shouldn't split and all Arabs should be in Arabia. Include Iraqi land and Assyria's borders are good.>kurdistan/iranKurdistan already exists in Iran so no independent state for the Kurds. Just have them reunite with their fellow Iranians. Iran should also have Azerbaijan.>arabiaTake southern Jordan and other Israeli lands in the peninsula and you're good.
>>6626071ITT: arap LARPer
>>6626071What is the reason for partioning Turkey? And giving that much to Israel? A jew triggered by the kara bogs memes?
Unironically by creating a pan-islamic union. Pretty much all problems there are caused by the ottoman empire being dissolved badly. Let them keep most of their local autonomy and within 1 or 2 generations war between them isn't realistic anymore, akin to the EU
>>6626152Should go with their full territorial expand
>>6626071Remove that gay logo from the Finnish flag in Egypt and we'll talk
The United Arab Republic governed by the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party as a secular one-party state with a strong security intelligence service and military.
>>6626106Who could be behind this post?
>>6626071Bring back the ottoman empire at its height.
>>6626071that looks real good
>>6626071Bring back the Turks or bring back the Greeks. Someone who knows how to fight. Caucasians are small in numberArabs are cowardlyPersians are manletsSemites are SemitesEgyptians shouldn’t be called West Asian.
>>6626071WILLY WAGGLING MAN MAD MAN WAGGLE" "MY WILLLy YESS AH CUM RELIEVEEEEE
>>6626329i will split your fucking skull open
>>6626071Give Israel to Egypt or Phoenicia and we're good
The map above is a 2006 proposed plan to redrawn the borders of the Middle East by Ralph Peters, a retired United States Army lieutenant colonel, author, and Fox News commentator. It was original published in the Armed Forces journal in an article titled Blood borders: How a better Middle East would look.
>>6626410>Armenia>Pakistan>Middle EastI know muricans have their own globe but such retarded
"Peace in our time"
>>6626733>broken germanyonly good thing in this entire awful map
>>6626733close, close, but no cigar
Czech this out
>>6626905>When you accidently drop your phone and the glass cracks
>>6626083>literally the only functional modern civilization in the region
>>6626939I feel like that video is supposed to be false flagging or satire.
>>6626952It is flippant, of course, because you'd be burned at the stake if you tried to say it otherwise. But it is very true regardless, the best thing the world could do is turn most of the ME into glass and let Israel rebuild it.
>>6626557Middle East is an artificial construct as it is. What kind of a dumb fuck gets offended by this? I am guessing a pajeet?
>>6626905the autist who made this map had no idea what he was doingalmost all of these dynasties in norf africa are long dead
>>6626905>Hungary and Hungarian KingdomIts the same fucking thing why split it up?
>>6627008I don't think he cares considering he's fine with putting ancient states that have been gone for thousands of years
>>6626071Wipe Israel off the map and should be ok
>>6626071Turn it back into Ottoman and Sassanid Empire.
>>6626944This racism is why no one likes you Israel.
>>6627538t. Ülügyz Yündrüzgan
>>6627029Is a shit hole. Come back when you have basic things like human rights for women.
>>6627698It's really not that many honor killings bro
>>6626410there's no need to bully Iran so much
>>6627698Womens are being treated good in Jordan
>>6626410>be iran>russians conquer northern territory in early 1800s>russian empire falls and northern territory becomes an ssr of the new soviet union>soviet union falls and ssr gains independence>now people claim that this artificial tiny state tha was originally annexed from your own nation should rightfully rule the even larger azeri population still remaining in Iran...
>>6627893That map I fair to all ethnic groups though
>>6626138>Kurdistan already exists in Iran so no independent state for the Kurds>Kurdish land is already occupied by someone and this is the reason why they should be occupied by someoneWe got the worlds top scientists working 24/7 trying to figure out just how low your IQ has to be to have this "logic"
>>6627971All countries are artificial, Azerbaijanis are their own nation they deserve a country
>>6627999you realize most of the lands the kurds live in isn't actually theirs? it's mostly armenian/assyrian.
>>6628061you realize most of the lands the armenians/assyrians live in isn't actually theirs? it's mostly caveman
The best answers in the field of politics are usually based on the principle of sovereignty. When it comes to foreign affairs, the more the better: if there is an overriding concern about the stability of the world community, no international organisation can stand in the way of it, whether in the United States, NATO and Russia. If it is about security of states or international relationships, it should be decided on the bases of sovereignty. One has to think that the security of each country and its external neighbours (and of course other groups outside the US and NATO) is absolutely essential for a successful international relationship. It is therefore necessary to understand what exactly is the "balance of power" in global affairs according to a theory laid down by former US diplomat James Baker.This is the core of a concept called sovereignty theory, which was developed by Harvard University professor William C. Wilson. His idea is that each state has the right to unilaterally decide and to declare, through the constitution itself or by a declaration published by the highest civil or state authority, its fundamental principles for establishing its own national boundaries
>>6626071>Kurdistan>Northern IranMakes zero fucking sense since its mainly Gilaks, Persians, and Azeris that live there and Kurds have no historical claims on that part of Iran at all.
>>6626071>Saudi Arabia intact>greater Israelsloppy job, mossad
>>6626325>Persians are manletsNot really compared to Semit*ids around them.
>>6628008Absolutely retarded post.
>>6628200>Kurds have no historical claim to anywhereKurds=Aliens theory confirmed?
wa la*kisses fingers*I have single handedly stopped war through the entire Old World.
>>6628149ok genocide supporter.
>>6628230You are mistaken, im not a Turk
>>6626071Almost perfect. But you have Iran as the Islamic Republic, instead of based Shah rule.
>>6626944>At who's expense I wonder
>>6626071Fixed it for ya
>>6628378Based and Zoroastrianpilled
>>6628212I'm completely right Azerbaijanis are Turks and deserve a country, they were the ones that created Iran and rule it unitl 20th century
>>6628432Iranian Azeris are not "Turks", their language got Turkified and regardless you should eat shit, cockroach.
>>6628287>totalitarian american puppet who tortures political dissidents and replaces his country's culture with western degeneracy>based
>>6628432>WE WUZ ANCIENT PERSIANS N SHIEEET
>>6628436What happens to political dissidents under the ayatollah? More Iranians have left the country post revolution than pre.Also the Pahlavi were just upstarts. Frankly if we are going full blown fantasy I'd like a Zoroastrian dynasty, but the Qajar works as a distance second choice.
>>6626071Get ride of Sykes-Picot, give all of Iraq to Iran, deport all the Sunni from Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine to Jordan and Saudi Arabia, create a Christian State in Lebanon/Syria called Neo-Assyria or the Levantine Republic, give the Sinai to Israel and start the Partition of Egypt by creating a "shelter" state for the Copts.
>>6628378>Oh god I love it
>>6628208Semites are pygmies average Persian is under 6
>>6626138>They only ever populated Eastern Anatolia.They did, look up lesser Armenia.
>>6626116You mean khuzistan? It's not as Arab as you might think as they're not the majority.
>>6628460Political dissidents aren't treated well under the current regime either, not a good reason to like the previous one though. The Qajar dynasty was a humiliation, pic related.
>>6628361The US spends far more on the war on terror or bribing Pakistani officials from going full retard than it does on Israel, and gets almost nothing out of it by comparison.
>>6628435Iranian Azerbaijanis are Turks ! Get over it racist Austist Persians>>6628457>Modern Iran exist because of Persians Do Persians actually read history ?
>>6628499It is >>6628508Beautiful ! if only Russia took south Azerbaijan from Iran, we will be a happy united nation, Ahwas belong to Iraq
>>6628544What? The role of the Turk throughout Iranian history has been the brute, or as they themselves called it, 'People of the Sword' whilst the Persian were 'People of the Pen.' From Seljuks to Qajars, Persian viziers/vakils have been actually governing the state and creating the modern Iran as we know it today, whilst the Turks, heavily Persianized as they were, held the military and even sucked at that considering how much territory they lost. Making 50 sentence threads on Iranian history with bad English doesn't make you an expert on it.
>>6628530They also pay a lot to arm terrorists
>>6628611>bruteToday Turkic people are more Civilised than Iranic people, yeah they were savage in the some part of their history but not always>Persian viziersMany of them weren't Persiansalso Turks were governing most of Iran regions>sucked at defenseUnIronically better than Iranian military, your country was split twice in WW1&2 >your EnglishMy points remain right you silly racist Persian
>>6626071>>6626083Jerusalem is rightful spanish (catholic) clay.Look it up.
>>6628544>do persians read historyNo>>6628583t. Turk/Persian mutt in denial>>6628697Get out of my thread history denying roach, the Persian empire's administration and organization was far past its age and even during the Umayyad, Abbasid and Ilkhanate eras Persians were philosophers, civil servants and high ranking government officials. Only the Safavid "Turks" contributed to Iranian history.
how are any of these maps an actual improvement rather than being the fullfillment of some autist's fantasy
>>6628697>Today Turkic people are more Civilised than Iranic people, yeah they were savage in the some part of their history but not alwaysNice deflection, we're talking history. And even today, despite all westernization efforts, Turkey is slipping back into theocracy just like Iran did.>Many of them weren't PersiansThe governing class was almost exclusively Persian, as was the culture, because Turks had never governed before and had to adopt Persian administration just like the Arabs did. Not only that, they were so Persianized that they took Shahnameh, the Persian epic to be their history in an attempt to forget their tribal beginnings. The word 'Turk' was literally an insult to them. >UnIronically better than Iranian military, your country was split twice in WW1&2 Qajars still ruled in WW1 genius, and Iran didn't '''split''' in WW2, almost no blood was shed. On the other hand, when Persians were in charge of defense, mainland Persia was not breached once during 600 years of war with Rome.
>>6628729>t.Turko-Arab mutt in denial>Only the Safavid "Turks" contributed to Iranian historyThey were Turks, Seljuks Khwarezmians saved Iran languages and cultures from extinction
>>6628731but isn't the real world map just the fulfillment of some autists fantasies
>>6628740We are still talking about history though Turks took the best parts of the Arab and Iranian culture, in many parts of history they were more Civilised than botg groups>Turkey is slipping back into theocracy just like Iran didTurkey will continue being secular/Moderate Muslims majority of Turkic people aren't zealous in anyway, also I'm talking about all Turks not just Turkish peopleThat True, still many of them were Persians Most of the late Qajar military were Iranians not Turks, and these events are humiliating to Iran military history>when Persians were in charge of defense, mainland Persia was not breached once during 600 years of war with RomeDid you read about Roman invasions of Azerbaijan ? Or nomadic invasions of east Iran ? After the short independence from the caliphate Iran was occupied by Seljuks and Ghaznavids who destroyed all Persian states of Iran
>>6628748Iranian culture was never in any danger. The man who made the biggest impact in medieval iranian culture was an iranian named ferdowsi
>>6628807Yeah my friend let ignore the part where the Seljuks saved Iran languages and cultures by promoting them
>>6628008They have one, its called The Republic of Azerbaijan. If t*rkroaches want to live with their brethren they can live there.
>>6628882Why should they leave their ancestral homeland ? They should just unite with ROA
>>6628829Saved from what? Like I said it was never in danger. Ferdowsi did more for Iranian culture than Turks did.
>>6628889He preserved it and Turks promoted it, if they didn't promoted it most of Iran will be speaking Arabic
>>6626071>Greater Armenia and AssyriaHow are you going to populate all that land though, those people are dead lol
>>6628906How illiterate are you in Iranian history? Persians never stopped speaking Persian, and the ressurcture of Persian culture is credited firstly to Samanids and then to Saffarids. Seljuks spread Persian culture outside of Iran to Anatolia, Persian culture and language inside Iran was never in danger by the time they arrived.
>>6628966>ByzantineDisgusting white empires should never have filthy non european land.
>>6626071God, so based
>>6628912The populations of Greeks, Armenians and Syriacs/Assyrians that got wiped out of what is now Turkey still exist after relocating elsewhere, following their endangered original customs and language, this being one of the biggest effects of the 'genocide'. For instance, at least 30 rural villages were created in the French Mandate of Syria to house Assyrian refugees from the southeast corner of Turkey where they were once practically independent, before the 1840s. These villages were recently targeted by I.S.I.S. More areas were used to house them elsewhere, and the "Assyrian Pope" even was relocated to the U.S. for 70 years with two of them buried there. The same goes for former Turkish-residing Armenians and Greeks who also spoke dialects different from the people indigenous to the current Greece and Armenia.
>>6628432Holy shit is this how retarded the average Turk is?
>>6628906Iranian Intermezzo period was already well underway centuries before Turks were in any position to dictate anything in Iranian lands for centuries. Like this anon said here >>6628939, a revival of Iranian and Persian language, traditions, culture, festivals, and identity was going strong under dynasties and states like those of the Samanids, Buyids, Tahirids, Saffarids, etc...Turks only promoted Persianiate culture outside of Iranian lands. So the idea you cockroaches "saved" Iranian languages and culture is laughable.
>>6626248>>6626110he's a jew
>>6626071complete and utter balkanization
>>6628008>All countries are artificialI hope for the death of every single Canadian
>>6628008Iranian Azeris don't even want their own nation or union with retarded Azerbaijanis, you moron.