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Why was Churchill so unreasonable towards Hitler? He seem to be willing to forget and abandon any other obligations or ambitions to ensure the destruction of Hitler's Germany. Why did he hate him so?

>If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.
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>>6460322
Maybe it had something to do with Hitler being a genocidal dictator.
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>>6460330
But at that stage, nobody knew that, to most people Hitler seemed like somebody who got a little greedy, which snowballed into a war. Which is true to some degree, he was never interested in western Europe, only the east.
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>>6460322
>churchill was 1.65cm
now you understand
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>>6460330
yeah thats why he sided with another genocidal dictator
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>>6460333
Who?
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>>6460333
It's a fight a survival in ww2 for the allies,And churchill hated stalin ever heard of ''operation unthinkable''' you strawmaning pol tard
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>>6460375
>get offered peace multiple times
>nazis invade neutral soviet union
>side with soviet union even though you hate bolshevism

cmon man just admit churchill had a hard on for hitler
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>>6460322
ch*Rchill was a half-american traitor
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Somebody post it.
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>>6460354
FDR.
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>>6460333

>begins preparations to go to war with the other dictator as soon as the first is defeated but is voted out of office before anything comes of it
>country spends the next 50 years fighting proxy wars against dictator and his successors

What did they mean by this?
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>>6460383

>the Nazis attacked the Soviet union even after making a peace deal with them

Do then think this helps your cause?
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>>6460322
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>>6460322
Because Hitler acted like a mad dog that needed to be put down.
Had Hitler honored a single treaty, then maybe other countries would have trusted him with a peace treaty.
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>>6460322
>>6460331
>>6460332
>>6460333
Churchill wasnt unreasonable, he knew perfectly well what to do and how to treat the germans.
Churchill was specifically a wartime leader, not a hippy designed for peace-time.

>But at that stage, nobody knew that

literally everybody knew that, anon, a decade before WW2 started countries like USA were already loudly declaring shitler is an agressive nigger.
The "Man of the year" article in the Time magazine is proof--- the entire article was bashing Hitler for his retarded "WE WUZ KANGS" larping and general constant attempts at antagonising everybody else on the continent.

Churchill and the UK not budging to any retarded german demands has to be the only thing the British did right in the entirety of World War 2.
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>>6460383
Soviet union would invade anyway hitler attacked first.
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>>6460441
Wait hitler was ''we wuzzing'' How?
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>>6460331
>he was never interested in western Europe
>implying
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>>6460475

Do you seriously have to ask?
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>>6460472

Citation needed
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>>6460475
Are you baiting or just retarded?
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>>6460322
there is no point reasoning with a narcissistic autist who wants to play AoE in real life
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>>6460482
The Third Reich recognized the Franco-German pre-1940 border.
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>>6460475
tell me you're fucking baiting.

>>6460481
thats a fantastic and hilarious example.
>>6460483
that too.
>>6460490
exactly.

Ill just add what the Nazis put in their history books--- thats peak WE-WUZZING.
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>>6460511
Everbody we wuzzed rome but you're just foucsing on germany?
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>>6460531
Germans were the original Roman WE WUZers
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>>6460531
not really, the biggest and saddest WE-WUZZERS were always the germans--- starting with possibly the most meme state in all of history--- the HRE.
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>>6460322
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>>6460475

Probably the most defining element of fascism over other right wing authoritarians is the construction of a national mythos. The Nazis hearkened back to an Aryan super race, Germanic superiority and adopting Roman iconography. Mussolini did similar things for Italy, as did the Japanese.
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>>6460330
But anon the interment camps and typhus outbreaks didn't happen until after the war started
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>>6460714
Das right germans dindu nuffin holocaust nuffin they were good boys
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>>6460481
'roman salute' wasn't real
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>>6460710
But those iconograhy belong to italy,Cant hitler admit that his race were dwelling savages,And yet he admire the germans for detroying rome.
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>>6460405
this
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>>6460749

The Germans ostensibly adopted Roman traditions after the fall of the Empire, just look at the HRE. There's a reason many nations appropriate Roman traditions, from the Ottomans to the Germans to the Russians. Rome is the idealised European power.
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>>6460710
And thats the saddest thing about it, even Mussolini and Italy who wanted to put back the Roman Empire on the map didnt WE-WUZZZ and LARP for the old Romans as hard as the pathetic germans did.
If a bunch of autistic germanoids LARP for the Romans harder than actual Italians, we know there's something wrong going on.

>>6460744
Reminds me of this, pic related.
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>>6460500
Just like they recognized Austria as an independent nation
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>>6460755
>B-but anon hitler is a good guy right?
t.pol
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>>6460755

Rome is the inspiration for pretty much every European land power. Napoleon did the same thing. The Turks did the same. Proclaiming yourself the next Romans just gives legitimacy to your conquests.
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>>6460773
My friend, quite literally NOBODY, EVER larped and WE-WUZZED for the Romans as HARD as the germans.
NOBODY.

It reminds me of the american woman politician that said she's a Cherokee Indian because her DNA test showed she has 0,000001% cherokee blood.
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>>6460773
There's a difference between taking inspiration from somebody and completely copy/pasting literally everything they ever made.
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>>6460780

The Russians claimed a 'Third Rome', the Turkish Sultans called themselves 'Sultans of Rome', the Spanish took the Emperor of Rome title and appropriated Roman iconography.

“I am a true Roman Emperor; I am of the best race of the Caesars – those who are founders.”
– Napoleon Bonaparte, 1812.
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>>6460780
>>6460781
>>6460787

I love a /his/ smackdown
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>>6460787
Exactly, the germans took all this LARPING to a whole new level, making the russian and turkish larping look like a warm-up.
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>>6460787
"Holy ROMAN Empire of the GERMAN nation".

Just reading this oxymoron out loud makes me chortle.
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Apollo Creed was a nigger.

Prove me wrong.

Pro tip: You can/t.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH68Pprx1Xs

>5 Sinister Deals with the Devil in History
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>>6460500
Which is why it was incorporated in to the Greater German Reich.
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>>6460333
He wanted war with USSR, that's one of the reason he was thrown out of office after WWII ended
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>>6460330
>Fear of a global Germany
>Germany runs the EU globalist venture
Wow I'm sure glad we beat Hitler. Truly the right side won history that day. Thank God for those big bombs that indescriminately incinerate anyone within miles of the blast, or we'd be speaking German and have a few less BASED Jews!
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>>6460331
Japan: I need resources
Russia: Neyt mine are those
USA: Japan, stop
The end

Germany: Stop killing Germans, Poland
Poland: make me fgt
USA, Britain, France, Russia: APOLOGIZE, DROP YOUR GUNS NOW *tacticool rollan*
Germany: stfu *rocks Poland and France gives up*
Russia: Infininigger tactics, engaged
USA: *bombs islands*
Everyone: ok nvm
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>>6460708
>ah yes this strawman will btfo the racists
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>people still assblasted ever since germany existed
damn it hurts to be this superior.
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>>6461033
It's not a strawman, it's literally what happened. The OP asked why Churchill was """unreasonable""" toward Hitler, and it was because he was a backstabbing piece of shit who was notorious for not honouring alliances or treaties
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>>6461003
imagine believing any of this is true.
also how old are you, fucking 5?
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>>6461003

I'm sure you have excellent proof that Poles were killing Germans?
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>>6461312
Imagine being so enraged from a joke online you immediately start insulting people lol
>>6461368
Polish death camps. Danzig. Why would Hitler invade for no reason? He gave reason and you're simply denying it here.
So my evidence is as solid as evidence of the Holocaust. Enjoy any further mental backflips this might cause you.
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I remember an exchange on /tv/ for a Stormfag that went something like:
>Hitler invaded to protect the Germans. The Poles were slaughtering them. Stop buying into Jew lies
>Can you name one of these massacres that prompted invasion? There's Blood Sunday and shit but that's after the invasion
>No I can't
>What the fuck? You have no argument then
>Why should I need an example? Hitler said the Poles were killing Germans and that's all I need
Stormfaggotry... not even once.
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>>6461385
>Danzig was a Polish death camp!
I bet you thought you were being real poetic and clever with that shit. Like how Stormfags thing Versailles think they are being clever souls when they claim the Treaty was slavery and bondage.
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>>6461401
That's not even what I said haha you must be trembling right now. Take a breather.
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>>6461385

That's not evidence. Prove those things happened.
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>>6461429
>trembling right now. Take a breather.
You're projecting. Only cause these threads get you all sweaty and twitchy doesn't mean the rest of us do.
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>>6461385

>Polish Death Camps

So Hitler attacked Poland to save the Jews?
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>>6461385
>you immediately start insulting people lol

where's the insult?

>Polish death camps. Danzig.

the what now?
what Polish death camps?
What about Danzig?

Got anything else besided /pol made up memes to back your shit up?
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>>6461394
>Hitler said Germans were being genocided, and that's enough for me
Lol
>Churchill said Jews were being genocided but he had edited photos and lots of stories with shoes
Woah
Both are too true imho my dude
In fact, there might have been secret American death camps too! Picture taken circa Japanese internment camps post ww2
It's true because I said so and I have a picture here proving it. That makes me a highly cited source btw.

If you don't agree, you deny the Holocaust and racism against Asians. Are you ready to take the final red pill, goy?

>Try to upload shoes
>Blocked
Oy vey, this is anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial!
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>>6461443
Maybe :3
>>6461454
I know it might be difficult for you to understand, since you're most likely a hyper intelligent millennial far beyond the use of commas, but a comma represents division between two different things, often being mentioned in tandem (that means in a row). So I said death camps, Danzig - that would mean Death camps [pause for a new word] Danzig. They're two separate things. Understand?

I came to talk history, not grammar but if it helps...
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>>6461459

>stormfaggot crying about editted photos

Absolute poetry.
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>>6461478

>Maybe

Did he or didn't he?
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>>6461385
>>6461429
This isn't /pol/, stop talking like a 15 year old and back up your claims.
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Churchill was a Jew on his mothers side.
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>>6461480
>Pictures can't be edited
>Especially if they're old
Musical chairs but you're the only one and there's only one chair and the song never ends.

*Stalins magical shapeshifting photograph*

But no, the Holocaust was very real and if you don't agree, I'll insult you further. See, I've won.
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>>6461492
I won't stand for this blatant anti-Semitism and disrespectful Holocaust denial
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>>6461508

>incoherent babble

Your kind are intimately familiar with editing photos.
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>>6461524
All I ask is that you believe my words. The Holocaust was real. I was gassed 17 times. I survived by using my rags as a makeshift gas mask and I hid from the gas by crouching in the corner. Zyklon is a very round gas, so it couldn't reach me there. I'm Albert Einstein's twin brother btw.
So you have to believe me because if you don't, that's a literal crime lol
Hitler was a terrible person, okay?
He killed my grandmother while my mother was still being born. No remorse, no sympathy. In fact he sang and danced while he did it. A very bad goy!
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>>6461539

>yet more incoherent babble

The Stormfags are no longer sending their best...
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>>6461504

>Jerome's father was of Huguenot extraction, his forebears having emigrated to America from the Isle of Wight in 1710, while her mother is believed to have had Iroquois Indian ancestry

Why do you tell easily verified lies?
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>>6461368
The Katyn Forest Massacre.
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>>6461596

>The Katyn Forest Massacre.

Lolwut
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>>6461524
>>6461559
>I'll deny the Holocaust and then laugh when I trigger someone
>Oh, then I'll call them Nazis
Brilliant. Another win for communist /his/ professor! Good show, lad! Xoxo
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>>6460322
Why was hitler so gay?
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>>6461478
he specifically posted both danzig and death camps as separate things.
what the fuck are you talking about, then?
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>>6461561
Because that's what they do on /pol/ to sell their propaganda. People come here regurgitating lies expecting it to work.
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>>6461385
>Polish death camps. Danzig.
Hey retard. Danzig was a free city that was under the protection of the league of nations. They elected their own NSDAP party there as well. Polish murdering Germans there would have been a well documented event with Poland getting into trouble with the LON.
> Why would Hitler invade for no reason?
For living space you colossal tard.
>He gave reason and you're simply denying it here.
Because it was lies that got disproved and only stormtards and retards believe it.
>So my evidence is as solid as evidence of the Holocaust. Enjoy any further mental backflips this might cause you.
Don't really care for the H, so meh on the mental backflips. However, the H actually has evidence supporting it, while Polish murdering Germans before September 1939 is nothing more than hogwash from propaganda that is over 60 years. The difference here is you're such a massive retard that you fell for propaganda over 60 years old that was debunked.
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>>6461684

>even more incoherent babble

Pathetic
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>>6461784
>Hitler was a gay man with jewish and african blood
Damn. Why do straight white guys get compared to him so much?
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>>6461385
...you realize the "danzig polish death squads" was a propaganda even more obvious than the gleiwitz radio provocation?
i mean, there is seriously not a single shred of evidence any of this happened.

and what do you mean by Polish death camps?
what does this even mean?
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>>6461604
It was a massacre against Poles by Soviets. I guess the stormfag was so triggered he thought Poles were Aryan babies and Soviets were Polish satanists.
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>>6460511
How is this we wuzzing? Most Roman emperors had blonde hair, also pharaohs too :)
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>>6462010

There was a thread a while ago that claimed it was NKVD death squads killing Germans in Danzig...
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>>6460482
he really didn't give a shit about Elsaß-Lothringen, even said the place became racially worthless after centuries of French occupation.
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His creditors were Jewish
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>>6460322
>instigate war against germany under the pretense of protecting poland's independence
>let poland fall under soviet dictatorship postwar
>all while committing objectively worse examples of imperialism on dozens of countries around the world
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>>6460405
>1941 history happened in 1938 now
okay
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>>6460482
took advantage of the situation
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>>6460405
funny meme but its really such a strawman
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>>6460511
I mean if you just move the origin point to ukraine its a historical fact
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>>6465187
>no new id
Hmmm



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