Why was it so much more advanced, so much earlier than northern europe? Was it because of their proximity to africa.
>>6301554civilization came from the middle east bud
The fertile crescent and Mediterranean were really good starting locations for humans, because they had a good climate, lands and resources (food, etc) to take advantage of, meaning you could build up bigger populations and tribes much more easily. Compared to North Europe which was way harder to live in and much, much smaller populations, basically coming out of ice age conditions.
>>6301972>Mediterraneanthe med sea is also great to trade and spread ideas and techniques from far away lands.
>>6301554Because we had overall favorable climate and we had Greeks around
>>6301554>Why was it so much more advanced, so much earlier than northern europe?it wasnt.>Was it because of their proximity to africa.to a giant library in egypt? maybe, but they werent more advanced
>>6302437>we had Greeksbased
>>6301990Here's your right answer, right hereIn the ancient times, it was vastly quicker, cheaper, and safer to barge trade goods across water than over land (it's still like that) and the main limiting factor was maritime technology.Trade first flourishes along major rivers like the Nile and the Tigris and Euphrates, and as maritime technology matures over the course of centuries, trade across the Meditteranean gradually develops until it reaches its high mark during the Roman Empire, but eventually, power shifts to coastal powers as maturing maritime technology finally allow for ocean-worthy vessels
>>6302710Anon China and Persia is a mass of land so this theory doesnt work at all. The real reason is because the Medi area is warm enough for farming tribes to spawn civilizations in the early bronze age.
>>6302719>ChinaAn empire formed around two great rivers: the Yellow River, and the Yangtze River. Throughout China's history, these two rivers are its most important landmarks.>PersiaLiterally sits on the crossroads of all land travel and trade across Eurasia, being the middleman that everyone was trying to avoid by seeking water routes.>The real reason is because the Medi area is warm enough for farming tribes to spawn civilizations in the early bronze age.farming is intrinsically tied to trade because most people aren't growing food on their farms, they're growing and selling cash crops on the open market, and trade happens in wet areas close to a source of fresh water, which means river networks, and later, sea powers. It's no coincidence that when ocean-worthy vessels become practical, power shifts north in Europe, towards powers that border the Atlantic Ocean like Britain, France, and Spain.
>>6302766Wrong faggot, farming had nothing to do with trade originally just pure survival. Also I mentioned China and Persia because they have no inland sea like Europe.
All the oldest civilization formed in areas with drinkable water and decent climate. That's all
>>6301554Northern Europe were Steppeniggers. Meds mixed with the native farmer population, allowing them to climb the ladder of civilization faster
>>6302779feeling salty, aren't we?>, farming had nothing to do with trade originally just pure survival.do you even know how a cash crop works? You think Greeks and Latins were growing olives to eat them, and not make olive oil by the boat-load? They sold their crop at centralized markets and bought their foodstuffs at the market like everyone else. Subsistence farming was usually a sign of how shitty and backwater your society is.Egypt and Mesopotamia had intensive farming for far longer, yet the Mediterranean powers later eclipsed them, even while Egypt remained the breadbasket of the entire Roman empire. Why do you think that is?> Also I mentioned China and Persia because they have no inland sea like Europe.And you deftly ignored my counterpoints. China arose thanks to two mighty rivers, and later extended its influence all over the South China Sea and beyond, and it was precisely China's refusal to engage in Maritime trade that gimped them while the European powers were expanding into the Atlantic Ocean and beyond. And Persia is in the unique position of being the land-power in the greatest position to capitalize on land-trade, which is comparatively slower, and more dangerous, hence why the industrial revolution did not happen there, first.
climate was different, agriculture was different