Glorious ANE admixture.
David Reich says IE is related to Dravidian and Nakh-Dagestani
>>6122614>>6122617Proof that Kuriles is ancient Russian land.
>>6122620>David Reich says IE is related to Dravidian and Nakh-DagestaniHe isn't a linguist.
>>6122638He's pretty convinced that IE spread through Iranian-Armenian warrior women who civilized steppe savagesHe's got 10k samples to prove thisAnatolians got IE language from Iranian-Armenian women without EHG
>>6122614Fucking steppe niggers were really lucky they met advanced Middle Eastern people. Giving them metallurgy and domesticated animals was a mistake. Indo-European/Turkic/Mongolic - the rape squad
>>6122650Doesn't prove anything about languages. What are those IE samples without EHG?
>>6122663>do-European/Turkic/Mongolic - the rape squad>>6122630
>>6122670Hittites from 3500-3000 BC
>>6122685>Hittites from 3500-3000 BCName of samples and study?
>>6122663It's kinda funny how a bunch of Siberian fucks conquered and raped the entirety of Eurasia destroying more advanced civilizations over and over again. If only horses went extinct faster the entire world would be completely different.
>>6122663>>6122746What’s with bitter farmoids cuckposting about steppe conquerors lately? In all probably you were fathered by them and you’re culturally appropriating their language atm
>>6122630Ket and the yeniseian languages are closest related to Native Americans, in particular Na-Dene. Funnily Heinrich Werner considers a comparison to Indo-European though. Edward Vajda on the other hand writes that the Yeniseians originate from further south and the Ket and their closest relatives the Yugh are actually yeniseified rather than purely indigenous. Furtescue places the Urheimat of his Siberian macrofamily, consisting of Uralic, Chukotko-Kamchadal and Eskimo-Aleut within the Yenisei-basin.
>>6122663Caucasus groups were barbarian rapists that replaced Anatolian and Levantine people just like IEs did.
>>6122746>>>6122663It's kinda funny how a bunch of Siberian fucks conquered and raped the entirety of Eurasia destroying more advanced civilizations over and over again. If only horses went extinct faster the entire world would be completely different.Mongoloids and many Middle Easterners avoided most of it. Only Europeans and South Asians got cucked wholesale.
>>6122832They didnt. CHG abd Iran N are both heavily ANE. Iran N also has additional East Asian ancestry.
>>6122839I doubt it. It seems more like ANE is ANS+low Basal Paleolithic Iran, with relatively low actual ANE in the later and more Basal-rich CHG and Iran_N.
>>6122839>Iran N also has additional East Asian ancestrySouth Asian not East Asian.Arabs have CHG and Iran_N mostly from Iran and to lesser extent Armenia/Geotgia.It's not proper steppe admixture which consist mostly of EHG.
>>6122879Anyway ANE hapas clearly cucked everyone.
>>6122872What is ANS?
>>612288829k BC Yakutia. More West than East Eurasian but mixed. They had haplogroup P1 which is ancestral to Q and R.
>>6122872Anatolians are the pure ones while CHG are just another flavor of northern rapist from the metal ages. Dont try to fight it.
>>6122823>>6122746At least, Europeans have blond hair from them.>barbarian rapists that replaced AnatolianHapas can be savage. Abkhasians can be 60%+ CHG.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7bvtIm8Am8orojL-MceafjY7B5s2tp8m8byJ9BnlDk/edit#gid=0
>>6122898They werent mixed, they diverged from East and West Eurasians. Your cousin shares some of your ancestry but is not mixed with you.
>>6122907The point is that ANE seems to be really, really overestimated in Iran and CHG because of what appears to be gene flow to ANE rather than the other way around. That's not to say it's entirely absent there as it's not.
>>6122898>29k BC YakutiaIs this Yana_UP? Do you hve ADMIXTURE results for it?
>>6122965>>6122898>>6122930Did they have australoid and middle eastern components like aurignacians/gravettians?https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/k-14-admixture-analysis-of-early-holocene-alaskan-genomes/
>>6122885they were west eurasian
>>6122983>they were west eurasianIt means nothing. They were 45% mongoloid+australoid,
>>6123005Cluster like hapas
>>6122965>>6122975They didn't do ADMIXTUREhttps://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/10/22/448829.full.pdf
>>6123008Aurignacians were even more ENA (Indian) shifted however.
>>6123026Kostenki clusters with modern Sindhis, Makranis, and Punjabis.
>m-muh driftBullshit. It's obvious that Villabruna is a result of something new coming to Europe, probably from the Middle East. Those Paleolithic fucks were all strongly shifted towards Asia compared to Villabruna.
>>6123074Are those Hungarian Beakers even Indo-Europeans?
>>6123084It's drift though. Paleolithic Europeans had little shared drift with other West Eurasians.No doubt that WHG came to Europe but it happened in 30k BC.
>>6123092Sicilians Bell_Beakers were even more West Asian than them with Natufian and Iran N admixture. Bell Beakers, Corded Ware etc were just cultural constructs.
>>6123187>Paleolithic Europeans had little shared drift with other West Eurasians.UP Europeans are ~50% WHG+MENA and ENA genetic components. They either were mixed or not fully differentiated and evolved into full WHG later on or both,
>>6123207What's interesting is that UP Europeans despite having so many components lack ANE specific component.
Yana really, really hates CHG and Zagros farmers even more than Anatolian farmers. Bichon WHG is surprisingly high up which may be related to that.
>>6123232>Mal’ta was also successfully modelled as a 2-way mixture of Yana (72 ±4%) and CHG (28 ±4%) (p=0.22) using qpAdmwith a set of 9 outgroups (Mbuti, Yoruba, Mota_N, Onge, Papuan, Ust_UP, Kostenki_UP, Sunghir_UP, Zagros_EN). But if para-CHG had much less Basal it could be something like 50-50
>>6123218https://www.eupedia.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33695.html>>6123232>>6123279Can you post qpgraph from this study?
>>6123232>>6123349D/f stats are unreliable for prehistoric populations that's why they often give bullshit results.
>>6123384I don't see bullshit results though
>>6123232How read this one?
>>6122663>Indo-European/Turkic/Mongolic - the rape squadbased>>6122799their personal psyochology and founding myth is fundamentally cucked, it has very negative effects on their mental health.
>>6123537>basedIn modern times the more Steppe/EHG (but CHG alone doesn't seem to cause it) a population has the more feminist it is.
>>6123576that's literally untrue. Russia and Poland have the most Steppe/EHG. Feminism increases with western hunter gatherer and farmer admixture, see the entirety of Western and Southern Europe.
>>6123576Ever notice how it’s the stereotypically “Aryan” blonde haired blue eyed types who seem to absolutely bend over backwards with white guilt, Marxism, and all manner of leftist hogwash? Those are the offspring of the farmoids whose light features are a genetic adaptation to agriculture. That, and the ANF types were proto-feminists
>>6123713Yes, so I've heard. Are you going to correct me or what?
Uhhh so yeah the reason why Aurignacians do not cluster as closely with modern Euros is simply because they diverged off the broadly ancient west Eurasian group (~45,000 years ago) very early on (not too long after ancient west Eurasians diverged from ancient east Eurasians over 50,000 years ago) but Aurignacians are still MUCH closer to Europeans than they are to east Asians. A few thousand years after that (a bit over 40,000 years ago), the Gravettian ancestors of WHG diverge from the remaining common ancient west Eurasians and soon after that the ancestors of ANS diverge from ancient west Asians hence ending the existence of a single common ancient west Eurasian group (this would be around 38,000 years ago). Then 25,000 years ago, the eastern Anatolians (the to be Anatolian farmers) separated from Caucasians (primary ancestors of CHG). Then starting around ~10,000 year ago, the various differentiated descendants of ancient west Eurasians started mixing together to form the more recognizable west Eurasian populations.If you look at it this way, the idea of broad ancient west Eurasians and all of the groups withing its descendant classifications more or less correspond to the 19th century idea of the "Caucasoidal race". Its strange how old guesses can turn out to be right every now and then.
>>6123728It's Polish fiction in the same vein as them being SarmatiansIf Poles loves steppe DNA so much they might as well let a Ukrainians fuck their wife
>>6123764It’s been established that for the brief period that the Germanic tribes were on the steppe that they absorbed a huge amount of cultural influence from the Sarmatians. Hell you can even find Sarmatian influence in England from when the Romans exiled some there. Why should we be surprised at all that there might be sarmatian influence on the Poles when they have historically lived adjacent to the steppe and we know of Sarmatian tribes moving all the way across Europe to North Africa via Spain? There is also a number of linguistic, cultural, and even fashion related pieces of evidence which suggest that the Poles had enough contact with the Sarmatians to have borrowed from them even if they were not descended from them directly. And many scholars still believe that the Serbs and Croats were originally Sarmatians based on their etymology. This would suggest that at least some Sarmatian elements were absorbed by the Slavs as a whole. And also try to explain to me why my mother’s family (who are descended from nobility and are genetically normal Poles according to multiple tests) are tall, fairly swarthy and resemble Turks when we have no dna evidence of Turkish, Tatar or ghost admixture.
Reminder that blond hair is ultimately derived from abos. Abos show decent blondism rates and MA1 had abo admixture.
>>6125368Abos have a completely different blond hair mutation in TYRP1. Not at all related to the Eurasian KITLG.This is the problem with his, way too many brainlets who think like that.
>>6125439>mutationExactly. The allele mutated over time. Hence why it's not the same today. That's how evolution works.
>>6125457Oh my fucking god youre stupid. Its a different variant, in a different loci, coding a different thing, leading to a different trait that is only cosmetically similar. Europeans dont carry the Oceanian blondism variant, and the aBos dont have the Eurasian variant. Its a completely separate mutation witt no relation.But thamks, you understand genetics even less than I thought.
>>6125463It could be different today due to evolution. We don't know how ancient abo admix in ANE was.
>>6125486It would need to disappear and reappear as a completely different variant. Not plausible.
>>6123700>Russia and PolandBoth Russia and Poland hve highly eminist law. In Russia women can't even get life sentence (they only can get 21 years whereas men can get full lfe). Both also have little to no father rights so prove my point. Whereas basal-rich populations are far more patriarchal which suggests that pure basal eurasian would be more so. Indians also have very feminist laws. Perhaps more than any Europeans buy they are ANE-rich (including significant steppe)+ASI.
>>6125561>>6123700>Both Russia and Poland have highly feminist lawAnglos are of course huge cucks also, but they have steppe on south asian level who tend to be beta manlets.
>>6125566Moreover, Slavic women are most hypergamous in Europe (I suspect Baltic women are similar), whereas men are ugly as fuck. Which proves that high steppe admixture=cuck.
>>6122799>In all probably you were fathered by them and you’re culturally appropriating their language atmI wish i wasn't. Makes me feel like a fucking savage
>>6122614I wish there was no bronze age collapse, and steppeshits would've been wiped out instead
>>6125576You mean copper age collapse
>>6125576THAT'S TIME YOU'LL NEVER GET BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>6125570Slavs are a population born out of chattel slavery. The women were bred to sexually satisfy their brown masters while the men were bred to carry huge charge like donkeys
>>6125570Keep telling yourself that when steppe ydna is like 50% of the worlds men.
>>6125570No, no, it's R1a = cuck. R1b are the Chad conquerors and R1a are the cucks who get raped by everyone.R1b:>Roman Empire>Spanish & Portuguese Empires>British Empire>Napoleonic Empire R1a:>poo in loos and Slavs who get raped and enslaved by everyone
>>6125630>the most common hg in the second largest nation on the planet by population and the largest geographicallyAhahaha. Slav pajeet union will wipe out the R1b imperialists.
>>6125561>>6125566>>6125570>unironically applying lookism vocabularyYikes... Everything you mentioned is apocalyptically worse in western/southern europe without debate, by the way. Farmer/WHG admixture is synonymous with being irredeamably pussywhipped. Please contain your bitter sperg rage at the fact that steppeBVLLs (righteously and justifiably) slaughtered your objectively non-human farmoid relatives.>>6125630if they got raped by everyone then obviously their haplogroup wouldn't still be around, retard.
R1b - totally non-cuck -
Let's face it. The rape of R1b will, within a century, probably surpass the Mongol rapes.
WE WUZ EMPIRE N SHIET
Now there was an ANE mongoloid shill in the thread, but he probably doesn't know that the non-Caucasoidal admixture in early ANE samples comes from native south Asians and not from east Asians. This "south Asian" component ends up decreasing over time as you can see AG2 and AG3 gravitating back towards the west Asian/European populations.
>>6126456ANE seems to not exist. ANS is basically European related HG+some kind of Asian which is basal to both Onge and Han.MA1 is ANS+CHG with a South Asian shift.
>>6126477I mean, isn't that basically what ANE is? Like the "ANE" group is primarily descended from caucasoidal HGs from western Eurasia who moved around Asia (starting around 38,000 years ago) and picked up some Onge-like admixture on the side as it migrated here and there. I would like to think that it might have followed a "cul-de-sac "-like roundabout path going through the (now submerged) bits of Sundaland as well.
>>6126520In the near future I think ANE as a concept will be replaced by ANS and something from Iran or Turkmenistan which is a big component in Caucasus HG and deeply unrelated to ANS. If not ANS will define ANE instead of MA1.
>>6126456>>6126477>>6126520>>6126607Good post and BASEDVIVA LA CAUCASOID ANE/ANS
>>6126456>>6126477>>6126520>>6126607Jomon/Ainu "Caucasoid" is the Australoid that mixed upto 15% with some ANE population.ANE is fully Caucasoid and a few small subset of ANE mixed with Jomon Australoids>>6124672
>>6123008Nope is australasian admixture coming from paleolitic india convined with paleoeuropeans
>>6126819I guess your post is off-topic m8
>>6125612>The women were bred to sexually satisfy their brown masters while the men were bred to carry huge charge like donkeysNo, Slavic men are soft and feminine like their female counterparts. They were bred to sexually satisfy their masters too, although I'm not sure why you think they were only brown since they were often enslaved by Scandinavians and Uralics.
>>6126456Basically this , look afontova gora 2 10000 years more recent that malta boy and cluster much closer to europeans
>>6123724Those are the offspring of yamnaya , sintashta , andrnovo.... the ones who conquered the entire world from portugal to wrstern china and from what aryans is known for
>>6122614Ane raped all east asians that how amerindians born
>>6127116Wrong, Asians dont have ANE. Native Americans derive from the Ancient Paleosiberians, who were ANE + East Asian. They are represented by groups like the Na-Dene, Chukotko-Kamchatkan, Itelmen, Ket etc.
>>6122630>Implying tajiks are mongoloid
>>6127239Well ane raped paleosiberians really close to today east asians
>>6125675>the most common hg in the second largest nation40% isn't large.
>>6123764t. seething retard
>>6122650of course a jew would want that