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It seems ethically and economically right. It prevents people from wasting money on useless degrees. It prevents low IQ people to be used as a cheap labor force after high school. Our businesses would be much more profitable if these low IQ people would be working full time instead of part times because they need to write an essay on intersectional feminism.
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>>5947493
>It prevents low IQ people to be used as a cheap labor force after high school.
I meant that it allows
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Imagine, coming onto a board dedicated to the humanities, and being unable to conceive of any merit to education that isn't able to be immediately instrumentalised
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The problem with social sciences is that you need to be mature before you can appreciate them. Trying to teach them to highschoolers and college students is foolish.
There should be some educational institution for 30+ year olds that specializes only in humanities.
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>>5947493
Who was in the wrong here
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2018/10/17/hungary-officially-ends-gender-studies-programs
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>>5947510
There is no merit in being an unemployable failure that's a burden to society.

>>5947527
It only matters if social sciences can pay your taxes, if they allow you to start a business or if employers can appreciate them
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>tfw on my way to a PhD i can't afford and don't really want
I got my bachelor's and just kept going because I was too scared of the real world.
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>>5947493
>Removed
Just curb them, tbeh. It's OK if there's like 10-30 smart people getting a degree in literature or art history, but it's ridicolous if there's 100-300 people that don't give a fuck and just want to study something.
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>>5947532
Absolutely correct for hungary to ban useless degrees that not only produce failures of human beings, but are a threat to the moral fabric of hungarian culture.
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>>5947493
The bottom tier are essentially recruitment for actavist at this point. Critical Theory has ruined academia
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>>5947563
Please learn the language before you use it, thanks.
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Imagine thinking that law, accounting, architecture, and industrial engineering are somehow less useful degrees than mathematics and astrophysics. This list is a joke. Just because you don't like something or the job market is oversaturated doesn't mean we don't need those people to exist. If you excel in any field your degree is worth something.
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>>5947600
>Imagine thinking that law, accounting, architecture, and industrial engineering are somehow less useful degrees than mathematics and astrophysics.
I don't think the list was about "usefulness" only, but about general respectability and intelectual demands.
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>>5947493
>biology that high
Kek. Bio majors are some of the dumbest people I've ever met.
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>>5947623
It's complete nonsense either way, the product of some undergrad STEM kid's wet dream. Respectable to whom? What kind of intellectual demands? It's not even apples to oranges
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>>5947600
it's ranking their intellectual credibility my g. It's not only about economic usefulness and no saying that doesn't make me a stinky campus SJW activist
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>>5947634
that's why biology lags behind a little bit because it attracts the less math-oriented STEMfaggots, but the depth of the field is up there with the big boys
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>>5947668
So you're implying that compsci and nursing takes more mental capacity than law and architecture? Do you live in the real world?
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>>5947493
STEM degrees should be removed from colleges. They don't actually train you for any job, and you'd be better off getting trained by actually doing the work. Humanities degrees, unlike STEM degrees, actually give the rich shits that go to college some modicum of perspective beyond themselves and their daddy's money
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>>5947510
Humanities are a hobby, friend.

It's not a profession.
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>>5947493
Hey i am doing political science, be nice
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>>5947793
Then why am I currently making money as a professor in a humanities field?
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>>5947770
lawyers are often some of the dumbest people alive, I've consulted for them and they're often near illiterate and have the STEM skills of a salamander

architects are color chart selection queens, with no practical value to society, and need firm minders for the real work
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>>5947668
>it's ranking their intellectual credibility
>nursing in the second highest tier
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>>5947493
>math good, writing bad
it's not the humanities department's fault you can't write a five paragraph essay
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>>5947808
I would be really concerned if I found out my professor frequents 4chan.
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>>5947793
How is it a hobby, and not a profession?
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>>5947808
you're feeding at the academic trough, you mean. Let's see what you're doing after we amputate 70% of your tuition drones
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>>5947828
Not that poster but got some bad news for you pal
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>>5947830
How is it a profession, friend?
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>>5947532
>literally enslaves you to chink and french corporations
Well guys at least we don't have gender studies anymore :^))))
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>>5947834
How do you think the humanities have been able to develop, as a field, without support from the university structure? How can you on the one hand claim to value history (by posting on a board dedicated to it) and wish to effectively cripple it by cutting it off at the knees? Have you read anything from "hobbyist" historians? Good research takes time and resources, you fucking idiot
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>>5947493
*ahem*
FUCK public colleges and FUCK state-backed student loans
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What is geography doing above the bottom rung. Are you a fucking momo
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>>5947863
No, fuck YOU.
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>>5947493
I'm starting to think that these threads are actually made by humanities students, who are just embarrassed about their degrees, and want to find validation by baiting peope into answering. Actual Stemfags usually don't usually go around shoving their 'superiority' on other people's faces.
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>>5947874
>Actual Stemfags usually don't usually go around shoving their 'superiority' on other people's faces.
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>>5947770
>>5947816
I didn't actually read the chart lads
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>>5947844
It is "an occupation founded upon specialised educational training"? By virtue of there being knowledge to be gained from higher education in humanities topics, which, at risk of upsetting one of 4chan's most persistent myths, is not the same as auto-didacticism.
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>>5947851
I'm not claiming anything of the kind, lad. The fact that you're creating strawmen indicates you know your position is a vacuity.


Humanities are a hobby, sorry. History is my hobby. If somebody wanted to pay me to research history, I'd do it, and can. Can you?


We don't need academic dolts paid for nothing but a hobby.

The foolishness gets cut, and you'll find that out in less than 2 decades, when your academic fantasyland gets dismantled. This waste is going to have to come to an end soon.
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>>5947828
But no one should be concerned YOU frequent 4chan?

Why the hate for the very site you're on, anon?
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>>5947888
>If somebody wanted to pay me to research history, I'd do it, and can.
>We don't need academic dolts paid for nothing but a hobby.
hmmmmmmmm
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>take you history/humanities degree
>go into the military with it as an officer
Find a flaw
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>>5947828
t. reddit
The mask has slipped sirrah
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>>5947887
No, it is not specialized educational training. Any dolt can do it, and often do as a hobby.

A profession is something entirely other. You might wish to check on licensure, as a partial indication of what a profession is, or what society considers it to be.
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>>5947888
>you'll find that out in less than 2 decades, when your academic fantasyland gets dismantled
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>>5947896
When I say "somebody", I mean somebody other than the academic trough and the taxpayers, saddo.
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>>5947888
You fundamentally misunderstand history as a discipline if you think consistently good research can be performed in a purely amateur setting. Even those outside of academic environment rely upon source collections largely housed/supported by academic institutions. Without the presence and maintenance of these resources, there is nothing to study.

>>5947902
Any dolt can perform medicine as a hobby, it just won't be good medicine. That you cannot distinguish good history from bad (which, to be fair, is a problem on the board as a whole) does not make history as a field a hobby, it just makes you an idiot.
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>>5947898
risk of bodily harm and need for physical fitness.
t. effete bookworm
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>>5947540
>There is no merit in being an unemployable failure that's a burden to society.
>While telling people they should major in chemistry
top lack of knowledge about the contemporary work market
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It is amusing the way that the academics lunge and lash out over all this. They know what's coming, obviously.
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>>5947888
>Humanities are a hobby, sorry.
No wonder the absolute state of this board. It's not that people are retarded, they're retarded *and* uneducated.
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>>5947913
You misunderstand history as a discipline if you think the ivory tower practices good research.
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>>5947493
None of this shit matters anymore when Trump University reopens
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>>5947911
>I mean somebody other than the academic trough and the taxpayers
Do you know who pays for nearly all of the STEM research in America?
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>>5947913
No, not any dolt can perform medicine as a hobby, it's a licensed profession.

You seem rather confused, my academic logrolling friend.
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>>5947493
t.global warmed denier and proud anti-vaxxer.
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>>5947929
pssst that guy doesnt know how fundamental research is funded
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>>5947923
No wonder the absolute state of academia, they're uneducated AND they think they deserve to take others' cash for it.
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>>5947493
>accounting
>bus. admin.
>finance
>industrial Engineering
>law
>i.t.
>meh tier

>astronomy
>linguistics
>geography
>ok tier
Which brainlet made this?
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>>5947932
I can preform Mathematics as a hobby, in fact, I do.
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>>5947929
We're not talking about STEM, faggot. We're talking about you valueless slugs in humanities.
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>>5947932
what if i hypothetically studied medicine for 4 years in my basement and came out with a 99 percentile knowledge of it. Then I could practice medicine
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>>5947932
It's a profession, yet many people still do it as a hobby.
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>>5947943
What is your level of mathematical education, lad? What degree do you carry, if any?
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>>5947946
>We're not talking about STEM, faggot.
>OP says "Should non STEM degrees be removed from all colleges"
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>>5947917
History and Humanities is unironically an area of study for militant patricians and it's co-opting by limp-wristed weaklings was the beginning of the end
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>>5947949
what if martians hypothetically did a brain transplant on you and you weren't a useless academic slug?
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>>5947902
The sad thing is, any dolt can't fucking do it. Most of the research done by hobbyists is shit.
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>>5947925
I don't even have to make so strong a claim, just that historical research requires archives, which in turn have historically been upkept by academic institutions. Without these institutions, you lose access to the sources.

I would, however, be interested in examples of research that you think are "good" that do not make use of institutional (academic) resources, or, just for kicks, your definition of "good" research, without defining it in opposition to the academy.

>>5947932
That's the point. If I read medicine books and gained an equivalent education as >>5947949
suggests, even if unlicensed, would I be practicing medicine when I perform the exact same activities as a licensed doctor?
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>>5947950
No, nobody practices medicine, as fellow professionals wouldn't stand for it. You'd know this if you were a professional.
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>>5947493
>higher education has now become High School 2.0 purely driven by utilitarian considerations
Is there anything they won't ruin?
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>>5947952
I'm actually licensed to teach high school Math in my state, but I choose to teach Social Studies instead.
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>>5947952
What is your level of historical education, lad? What degree do you carry, if any?
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>>5947953
>t. assblasted humanities drone
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>>5947960
Most research by you academics is shit.
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>>5947968
No.

MAs are the new BAs. PhDs are the new MAs. The level of intellect required for a PhD in the past no longer has a reward.
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>>5947984
Give concrete examples of good research that is either a) not performed by academics or b) does not rely on archival material housed in academic institutions
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>>5947977
You sound like some kind of technocratic boot licking Chink.
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>>5947963
you would be practicing medicine but as a hobbyist obviously you couldn't get access to drugs and stuff without the proper licence. You could probably go to med school and show them what you'd know and maybe they'd make an exception and grant your degree because they'd be so blown away
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>>5947959
that's where you're wrong kiddo, I'm not even an academic slug but merely one of the common variety
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>>5947977
>start argument
>completely incapable of clearly expressing your viewpoint or responding to criticism
maybe a few extra writing classes would have helped you with this stuff
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>>5947963
After we fire 70% of you academic humanities slugs, we'll figure out which of you slugs might be worth keeping around. I'm guessing you won't be.
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>>5948011
>we
lmao
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>>5947963
Keep you academic hypotheticals in your ivory tower, lad. That's why you have no value out in the real world, where we professionals work.
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>>5947988
just become drinking buddies with the librarian you can go access archives and whatever you need
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>>5947970
You didn't answer my question, lad.

I assume the answer doesn't support your assertions then, and you have no mathematical ability, and high school mathematics doesn't count as you should have learned by now.
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>>5948018
>archives filled with information gathered by 'academic history slugs'
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>>5948011
are you the Pol Pot anon?
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>>5948011
On what basis are you going to fire 70% of academic humanities staff without even allowing for the possibility of quality? Do you have a serious argument aside from some bizarre choice of insult (slugs? really?) about the qualities of humanities research, or do you just want to keep lobbing shitty insults all day about some cultural revolution that will never come?

>>5948018
How do you think the librarian gets trained and accredited, you fucking idiot? How do you think libraries exist in the way that they do? Have you ever done any sort of higher research?
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>>5948011
>>5947984
Jesus Christ, did your new book get crushed peer-reviews or something?
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>>5948018
the most intelligent comment in this thread so far
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>>5947988
The chop is coming, my friend. You humanities academics are on your last days.
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>>5948031
There is no way this person is even close to peer review lol
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>>5947993
You sound like some logrolling humanities academic, feeding at the trough.
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>>5948023
Which is more becoming, to be a slug of the everyday variety like all the others or to reap benefit from their slug-like labouring for free?
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>>5948033
don't reply to yourself, it's bad form
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>>5948010
>t. assblasted humanities academic slug
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>>5948039
if you fire all of them and stop giving them degrees they'll stop doing all your work for you retard
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>>5948027
please educate me on how libraries came to exist my liege-lord of erudition
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>>5947493
Literally everyone I know, even those with high end stem degrees, do not use their degree for their career.
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>>5948039
You're suggesting getting rid of all these slugs, though, and consequently destroying the possibility of access to these archives/their upkeep/the possibility of any new knowledge being produced
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>>5948043
I'm not even that idiotic dude and the comment was pure sarcasm
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>>5948026
are you the Bolshevik cell leader anon?
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>>5948027
I have a strange feeling the person you're arguing with might be Russian. Not making any kind of judgment with it, there's just something about the grammatical structure that seems off to me, and the insults are also definitely strange (logrolling, slugs, etc.)
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>>5948043
falsely calling samefag is horrid form
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>>5948027
On the basis of what we need, and we don't need academic humanities slugs blowing out the budget.

We need educated people, not more slugs.
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>>5948051
What do you think librarians are trained in?
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>>5948031
>another assblasted academic slug
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>>5948053
I never suggested anything of the kind I love my fellow slugs
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>>5948069
book fuckery
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That's ok, humanities academic slugs. The world needs ditchdiggers, too.
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>>5948061
I suspect I am being trolled, based on how quickly slug guy drops his claim and reverts to insult
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>>5948061
Yeah, the "my friend" always gives me non-western vibes.
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Of course, we the properly educated will create AI ditchdiggers eventually, so you'll have to find something besides that.
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Those evil Russians, they're obviously colluding with somebody, good thing you academic humanities slugs are on to them.
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>>5948071
>>5948082
I'm not even an academic. Who the fuck calls other people slugs? Where are you from?
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>>5948101
>t. assblasted humanities allegedly non-academic slug
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>>5948108
Stop trolling, you're just humiliating yourself.
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>>5948115
>t. even more assblasted humanities slug
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>>5948115
>>5948101
>>5948088
>>5948086
>t. academic cucked soiboy jewloving slugnigger
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Well, it's been fun, humanities slugs. You better make plans, because your day draws nigh, and the drivethrough fryer awaits.
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>>5947770
>compsci
More than law

>Nursing
No, nursing shouldn't even be there
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>>5948121
What are you getting out of this? I'm honestly curious
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>>5947874

Regardless of their field it's pretty clear that OP just wants (You)s.
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>>5948140
>t. slug
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In what language is "slug" an insult? Trying to find out this guy's native language.
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>>5948171
don't you wish you know sluggity slugboi
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>>5948181
Don't let these slugs decrypt the code, they'll turn it into another graduate department.
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>>5947851
History is a hobby because its economically useless. Get back when you raise your country's GDP instead of leeching off my tax dollars earned through my engineering job.
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>>5947824
Writing doesnt design the computer that your debt ridden ass is writing on, bucko.
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>>5948308
*paid
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>>5948308
Why are you on a humanities board if you don't believe that knowledge has a worth outside of economic value?
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>>5948308
>economically useless
People are willing to pay for history books and history documents.
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>>5947493
The fact that america is the richest country while its citizens know very little about history or politics proves that "critical thinking" and "open mindedness" is useless compared to IQ, enterprise and good old american work ethics.
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>>5947493
People who say STEM are invariably nitwits.
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>>5948320
Because its unethical that my tax dollars go to maintaining institutions that generate useless lazy people only worth working at fast food chains.
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>>5948348
But... people make a living being historians?
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>>5948331
And people are willing to pay camwhores. Doesnt make them less useless.
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>>5947848
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/18/the-chinese-communist-party-is-setting-up-cells-at-universities-across-america-china-students-beijing-surveillance/

>let’s cuck out to China because...uh, like,corporations maaan!
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>>5947493
I think Stem and Non stem studies should be more intertwined. I got a degree in history and software engineering(both Masters) and seeing both sides I can say without a doubt that neither side deserves to be alone on a University.
Stem students often lack the wide view on everything and sperg over details while many humanities students are retzardedly oblivious to the great pains many stem students have to go through to get their degree.
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>>5947493
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>>5948358
By your own rigid economism, that they're getting paid demonstrates economic worth
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>>5947493
>It seems ethically...right.
And how do you determine this without Philosophy, which is a part of the humanities you want to get rid of, you fucking imbecile.
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>>5948348
What if open hiring booths for McDonalds and Pizza Hut in front of the Admin Bldg's in every college town?

We could head off a lot of this waste. Have humanities majors sitting at the desks doing the hiring, explaining the waste of walking into that hive of uselessness behind that building's door.
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>>5948376

Put it next to the pajeet explaining to STEM students that the jobs they're hoping for will be outsourced by the time they graduate.
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>>5947493
Degrees that don't fill the needs of the public sector shouldn't be subsidized with public funds.
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>>5947493
>you can quantify "intelligence" with a single number
>IQ is a reliable way to do this
>university education is job training
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>>5948101
I guess it slugs to be you
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>>5948397
No, STEM will always have value, which is the point of this discussion, to get rid of the valueless and get them into bagging cheeseburgers and raking leaves, direct, without the middleman and debt associated.
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>>5948483
>STEM will always have value
So will the humanities.
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>>5947863
This but unironically. National student loans were the worst thing to ever happen to college education.
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>>5948124
i believe it's spelled drive-thru poindexter
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>>5948499
Not after the cull comes.
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>>5948513
There is no cull coming.
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>>5948333
it shows how far the elite minority of brilliant, exceptional people can push all of society given the economic freedom to do so
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>>5947493
>It seems ethically and economically right.
>It seems
>seems
You are retarded. Societies require labor and work forces in all stratas; labor, white-collar, blue-collar, well educated, low educated, or even uneducated to fulfill certain jobs and careers; sciences and mathematics or engineering pipelines also require economics, businesses, finances, administrative, and logistics to function.
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>>5948520
Sure there is, and the drivethroughs and leaf raking jobs will have a fresh pipeline of talent to mine.
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>>5947808
>professor
t. adjutant "faculty"
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>>5948534
There isn't, though.
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>>5948541
There is, though.
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>>5948544
No, there's not.
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>>5947563
All those sanpaku eyes and "stalker" biotypes
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>>5948554
Yes, there is.
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>>5948566
Nuh uh.
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>>5947493
This is the most disgustingly American post I've seen here, neck yourself OP
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>>5948569
Uh huh.
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>>5948570
He'll probably need a STEM guy to tie the knot.
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>>5948572
No
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>>5948579
Yes
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>>5948584
N
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>>5947815
This, even academic tier lawyers are either cesspools of corruption and (((backstabbing))) behaviour, or BarKhoba tier fanatics (commie lawyers, christcuck lawyers, etc) and they are absolutely incapable of developing nany skill beyond that. Literally NPCs
No middle terms for them
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>>5947493
They should not seeing as thinks like Humanities offers an important look on humans. Art, Music, theater and literature has been seen as higher education for a long time. Also why the hell is industrial enginnering on meh tier when it's the building block of our modern soceity?
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>>5947623
>being a judge is less respectable then being a physics proffesor
On what World? in which timeline?
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>>5948570
This one's even worse
>>5948333
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>>5948561
>For thousands of years, people of the Far East have been looking into each other's eyes for signs of this dreaded condition. Any sign of sanpaku meant that a man's entire system — physical, physiological and spiritual — was out of balance. He had committed sins against the order of the universe and he was therefore sick, unhappy, insane, what the West has come to call "accident prone". The condition of sanpaku is a warning, a sign from nature, that one's life is threatened by an early and tragic end

that feel when I have these eyes... what do?
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>>5948587
>humanities slugs are getting incoherent now
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>>5947493
Pathetic thread from an utter retard, no humanities: no archaeologists, no historians, so this board wouldn’t exist

Most STEM babbies such as engineers and biologists could be easily replaced by robots in the near future
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>>5948367
>tfw when im a biochemist and do most if not all the things in the right
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>>5948612
Revel on your Brahmanic spiritual heritage and write poetry
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>>5948709
no you don't
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>>5948679
No, we'll have that, we just won't have brigades of fuckwits larping as that.

I am looking forward to you humanities idiots creating the robots for us though. It's getting tiresome having to spoonfeed everything for you.
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>>5948610
Most anti-Trump jokes fall short of the mark (he's definitely a retard but most people just aren't very funny) but this one is easily the best I've ever seen.
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>>5948959
>he's definitely a retard but most people just aren't very funny)
I agree there. Anyone who genuinely believes Trump is a stable genius after his bumbling Uranium speech and whatnot must be simple, but the humor used against him is so piss poor and low effort that I feel the need to defend the guy.
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>>5948959
I agree
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The humanities dolts always have amusing political views, too.
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>>5947493
No, let people study what they want. They should remove requirements for STEM majors to take bullshit social science classes though. If the class doesn't relate to the field of study, it shouldn't be mandated.
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>>5950733
Actually, no, a undergraduate level degree should require some of that bullshit. If you're incapable of that you shouldn't acquire an undergraduate level degree. It's not hard of course, so not really a problem.


Similarly, an undergraduate degree should include basic math and science. Calculus I of course, as well as Physics/Chemistry with a full laboratory component. That would weed out the humanities dolts and an undergraduate degree would become valuable again.


Heck, it'd clean up the lawyer pool, academia and politics at a stroke. We'd get rid of a whole bunch of dolts, and obtain a bunch of fruit pickers and pizza deliverers to fuel our service economy properly.
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>>5949040
>I feel like I need to defend the positions of the village idiot because the jokes people make about him are not very funny
Are you sure you’re not the retard?
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>>5947493
>I failed eco101
I guess you are one of these low iq brainlets
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>>5947919
*tips tinfoil hat*
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>>5947968
People used to go to college for partying 40 years ago too.
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Name a POTUS with a STEM degree. I'll wait.
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>>5947493
>YEA IM MAJORING IN MARKETING, DO YOU WATCH THE JERSEY SHORE?

^every convo with a girl in 2010
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>>5947493
These ranks only apply at the undergrad level.
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>separating economics and sociology into two separate categories

are you retarded?
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>>5951425
Precisely, most politicians are humanities dolts.
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>>5951479
>the people who run the world are dolts

kek. name a fucking world leader with a STEM degree. oh wait, I can name one. Angela fucking Merkel looooooooooooooooooooooool
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>>5947493
I'm majoring in Business Administration, planning on going to law school afterwards. What do you fags think?
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>>5951505
Brush up on your sociopathic skills and get into Finance.
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>>5947493
>meh tier
>economics
>finance
>linguistics in ok tier
lol, have you ever looked at a lifetime earnings chart for people with those 3 degrees, economists earn as much as plenty of engineers
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>>5947493
No just put caps on accepted majors. Bigger caps for in demand majors like CS and ENG, smaller for low demand or high iq majors with excessive attrition rates
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>>5947493
>nursing
>geology
>geography
>Higher than most business related degrees
But all jokes aside, any modern day degree is just another sham.. I mean let’s take Ocasio-Cortez for example she studied economics and political sciences in Boston and is a outspoken socialist and wants a two state solution. universities are no longer about knowledge, but about learning how to be obedient to the next authority
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Humanities wasnt a mistake, letting higher education become "necessary" and forcing all the idiodic proles who have no need or interest in further education to get it for jobs was.
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>>5951505
Why law? What is your goal with this education? If starting a business is your goal, I would get into finance.
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Is it possible to get a work-from-home job with a history degree?
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>>5947510
If you pay money to learn something which cant make you money then you're either rich or retarded.
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>>5951822
How would you have trained technical specialists then?
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>tfw too dumb for astrophysics
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>>5951847
I'd like to have a practice. My grandfather did the same, and I just think it'd be profitable and respectable.
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>>5948373
based, stemfags eternally btfo
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This is the end result of any “critical ____ studies”

It’s not practically useful, it’s not insightful, and it’s pure belligerent ideology propaganda. Seriously, why is this allowed?
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>>5948610
fucking lol
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>>5951955
If you need trained technical specialists, you'll have to look elsewhere besides the humanities dolts.
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>>5947493
>geology
>OK tier
>architecture and law
>meh tier
>deadmeme_confusedblackman.jpg
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>>5947493
Probably.
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>>5952310
Seriously, how do Marxist rationalize quotes like this with the fact that it’s simply an ideology that is completely absorbed in theory and mental masturbation in academia among intellectuals and psuedo intellectuals alike with no practice applications?

Is it by claiming “Muh materlism, it’s a science!” ?
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>>5952302
Geology has applications in mining and oil drilling industries, as well as the ancillary industries (mostly gubmint regulatory agencies) that work in conjunction with them, while architecture and law are suffering from bloat. Architecture in particular is as much opinionated art as it is hard engineering.
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>>5952310
>The Jewish nigger Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation. (...) It is now quite plain to me — as the shape of his head and the way his hair grows also testify — that he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or paternal grandmother interbred with a nigger). Now, this blend of Jewishness and Germanness, on the one hand, and basic negroid stock, on the other, must inevitably give rise to a peculiar product. The fellow’s importunity is also nigger-like.
Wtf, I love Marx now.
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>>5952321
maybe marx was saying masturbation is an fundamental part of a healthy sex life.
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>>5952329
architecture excludes hard engineering, to be precise, and don't let any of these faggots tell you otherwise. That explains both the ugly faggotry you see around you and the often poor quality of use it provides you.
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>>5952310
Did he really say that? Source?
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>>5947547
>on my way to a PhD i can't afford
Anon, most phd programs are free and pay you. Do not get scammed by a PhD program you have to pay for.
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imagine being a stemcuck and sweating your balls off through college to get a degree in something you think is superior only to get hired by a big IT firm that's ran by its HR department of women who did arts degrees
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>>5947540
>muh survival of the fittest dark triad man larper
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>>5948366
This. Double majoring in a STEM and a humanity is the only true patrician pursuit. It's hilarious how many stem students are garbage at writing, communication, and literature research but still expect to be good scientists.
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>>5952185
that picture is pure kino, the reason satirical shows like SNL and other crap are not funny is because the real stuff is so much more cutting
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>>5947493
yes
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>>5952431
imagine being a white male and taking courses that instruct you on how to chemically castrate yourself and give your women to Arabs and blacks
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>>5952431
Will STEMfags ever recover?
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>tfw STEM fags in /uni/ threads complain about their degrees/gpa's being jeopardized by basic things such as in-class participation and presentations.
Imagine thinking of yourself as intelligent but not being able to interact with others, sad!
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>thinking a STEM degree guarantees you anything anymore
Tertiary education in general is broken, kiddo.
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>>5947493
>Law
>Finance

Engineercucks are salty that those fags receive more money in a year than they will in a life.
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>>5948608
Worse

>Being a judge is less respectable than being an astrophysicist wanker from Discovery channel
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>>5948314
Writing provides technical documentation for said computer, while your spergy ass gets replaced by Pajeet since your literacy levels are about the same.
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>>5948308
> tax dollars earned through my engineering job.

Get back when you will actually be iireplaceable by Pajeet, code monkey.
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Am I crazy for thinking that Archeology should be considered STEM?
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College is a scam and is gay desu
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>>5947774
This, they are glorified tradesmen.
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>>5947844
Try to do some research in your free time and you'll realise. It's historians who dig up the stuff you can wank to and whine about muh Constantinople.
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>>5947874
>Actual Stemfags usually don't usually go around shoving their 'superiority' on other people's faces.
Yes, they do. They are among the most unsecure people in existence.
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>>5955915
Yes and no, modern day archeology works with a lot complex machinery that is used in medicine and criminal investigations, so it became quite the technical profession, but I also heard that a lot of historians criticized archeologists for being historical illiterate when identifying things from excavation sides
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>>5952361
So what do they teach in architecture school? Just pure design?
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>>5947972
He's probably a bricklayer, in my experience they're among the most rabid anti-intellectuals for some reason.
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Traditional university was primarily about what is now called "the humanities": studying literature, art, history, philosophy. They were not a place to train for jobs, they were for mastering cultural capital and becoming contributors to an ancient tradition. That's why university was, for the longest time, the privilege of the elite. Only the elite could afford to spend their time and effort on mastering culture rather than mundane working skills like a common person.

The emphasis on STEM now has come at the cost of cultural capital. College students are becoming automatons. Soulless beings that work for the sake of working and have no purpose beyond mindless consumption and progress for its own sake. The only thing propelling on these sad husks is their total lack of introspection.
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>>5953450
The sad part is that most of them do not even really understand the material, either. They don't even realize how little they understand it until they try to get a job.
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>>5947493
Where does town and country planning find its way into this list?
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>>5956143
You didn't answer the question, anon.
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>>5947493
what is biological engineering about?
Isn't that just called biotechnology?
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>>5956161
they teach faggotry, severed from technical reality and the real world, thus the ugliness of the modern world we have to stare at, and the oft lack of function of it
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>>5956172
>t. humanities drone, trained for fast food industry
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>>5953354
t. ethiclet
>morality is petty
lets see you survive in china
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I had fun in my philosophy electives at college.
In fact I had so much fun that I think this sort of stuff doesn't belong in college. It's fun and games not education
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>>5956764
Not my fault that stem fags aren't great at reading or writing. Just enjoy your work opportunities and high salary, anon.
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>my reaction when reading this thread preparing to start university this year majoring in Peace & Conflict and minoring Russian Language
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>>5957450
Should specify; am I fucked going into these fields of study? Because this thread’s got me thinking I might’ve fucked up
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>>5957450
>>5957505
no it's fine. Have fun anon. Better than studying filthy science that is all work and no fun
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>>5957523
Thanks, I really enjoy this sort of stuff and I’m hoping to go into the foreign relations/defence sectors (be it government or NGO) so I’m hoping I’ll go somewhere and not prove “You-Are-Slug”-fag right
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>>5957104
It's your fault that you haven't answered the question, despite all your blathering, lad.
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>>5947911
So nobody.
>It is okay billionaires will totally spend their money having people research history and humanities
This shit would just create a sterile world devoid of any meaningful culture outside of the most basic ideas such as food. History, literature, philosophy would pretty much die as subjects and British culture or Chinese culture would consist of just fish and chips and kung pow chicken respectively.
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>>5957536
If you enjoy it and are good at it you will find something. It may lead to a circular path of becoming a professor yourself, but the path to success always exists. From personal experience I will say do what you love, not what makes you money (unless you love a career path that will make you rich or love money enough that it is okay to hate your job).
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>>5957536
I don't really respect humanities but I'm telling you to do this anyway because in the future AI is going to take over all the easy and repetitive jobs that science is filled with.
The softer subjects like humanities contain a truly human element that's hard to quantify. But you have to make sure you don't become a deadbeat
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>>5957588
I thought a person should do what they like not what they love.
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>>5957595
>>5957588
Cheers for the reassurance my fellow /his/anons
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>>5957552
Okay, I'll decipher it then: in-depth research needs a dedicated person, better said, a network of dedicated people who rely on each others' work. Becoming a good historian takes decades, and it's not a thing that can be done when you have only a few hours in the evening to do research. All those countless manhours are then distilled into a paper or monograph that can be accessed by others. Is it clear now, or do I need to draw it in CAD too?
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>>5947540
Capitalists are scum
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>>5947600
Law, accounting, finance,architecture don't require as much intellectual rigor regardless of job market.
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SHut up assholes.
You guys made me fall for the STEM meme.
Now I memorize things all day and unemployment looms near because you need social skills to get a job while you get through social sciences
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>>5957841
>STEM
>memorizing
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>>5947600
This

>>5947493
Sorry I'm not good in math and science stuff, I do political science because I enjoy if you don't like that whatever it's not my problem but if you start LARPING on how it's not useful at all and "LOL MUH STEM IS BETTER XDDD" than I tell you FUCK OFF TECHNOCRAT respect my choice because we need STEM but also political science.

Now I live in Europe so maybe it's different from America
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>>5958632
>Admits to be bad at math
Mind explaining why?
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>>5958766
Why shouldn't I? I don't care there are people who like math and are good at it and there are people who don't like it and are shit at it, I'm just being honest
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>>5958766
Dozens of posters here daily show how profoundly ignorant they are of basic historical facts, let alone the historiographical process. At least he's showing some honesty.
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>>5957715
No, you still haven't answered the question, lad. I asked how was that a profession, and you've responded with a description of technical and clerical level work.

Perhaps you should study on what a profession is first, and we can review all this after you've educated yourself a bit, and understand what a profession actually is.

It's sort of the root of this whole thread discussion, by the way. You being a humanities dolt, you're probably not able to rise to that level of understanding.
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>>5958632
>now I live in Europe
Please leave, you're a cancer to this continent
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>>5959500
I thought you wanted more white people
I look like /pol/ dream blond hair blue eyes 6'3 swedish and I'm a bi marxist who supports full integration and immigration within the EU



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