By using services like Grubhub/Instacart/etc., you're enabling and perpetuating the gig economy and ultimately keeping us enslaved under the elites whether you see it or not. STOP USING THEM!
>>74766370Op this kind of job will always appeal to the dumb normie market. you aren't going to stop it like this, you have to make a better service.
What would you rather, we eliminate plentiful and menial jobs for people desperate for income?
implying I care about some broke ass African immigrant
>>74766610Said better service also happens to be automation, so op will be crying about when that takes these jobs too.
My new job turned my life into a huge cyberpunk cliché. It's terrible but I can't stop loving it.I decided to buy a high-end electric bicycle and become an Uber Eats courier. I usually work late night (big city with lots of universities, many students ordering junk food in the middle of the night), zapping around the empty city on my futuristic bicycle, wearing a bright neon-colored jacket (high visibility), a pair of cool bike goggles and fake Chinese airpods through which the Google Maps lady gives me directions straight to my ears.So, my life is pretty much controlled by a shady mega-corp and my manager is a computer program that decides my routes. If I get into an accident/lose my bike/get injured, I won't be able to pay rent. It's also pretty lonely at times.Sounds dystopian and it is... but damn it I love so much the "freedom", the cold night air, the city lights, the stealthy noise of my bike's engine, my synthwave playlist. What a weird future that we live in, that I can't stop loving living a dystopia.
>>74766370Sounds like a personal problem. I'm not poor.
>>74766618>What would you rather, we eliminate plentiful and menial jobs for people desperate for income?This>>74766370>keeping us enslaved under the elitesYou have no idea what slavery is. Unless you are not free to quit, you are not a slave. Simply not liking the other options you have does not constitute slavery.>>74766664>the stealthy noise of my bike's engineElectric whine? Or do you have some loudspeaker blasting faux engine noise just in case a blind person recklessly steps into the roadway?
I like working whenever I want with no commitment and no skills required though.
Did you just come from >>>/ck/13651361
>>74766618>Yes goy, be very grateful for this low paying job. You owe it to us for offering you it!
>>74766370New gig economy idea, don't steal it: I'll call it "Subhub". Latex-encased ladies with chains and collars deliver themselves to your door, but no happy endings for legal reasons.
The whole point of them was for people to take it on as a second job for beer money not to use it as a primary source of income. Then all the broke ass minorities started using it as their main income and started bitching about slavery.
>>74766731Compared to being grateful for being out of a job?
>>74766726I'm sure OP is either a butthurt and unemployed serial shitposter, or an AI bot programmed for "social media influencing" and operated by some socialist cause.
No thanks, I'll continue to force poors to deliver my 50$ sushi dinner for a few bucks
>>74766763>socialistYou don't even know what that means
but they are good
>>74766827>first response to even the mention of the word is literally "THAT'S NOT REEEEAL SOCIALISM" damage controlHoly shit you people are such a joke.
>>74766664Not gonna lie that sounds pretty comfy.
>>74766712ebikes make a small, but noticeable noise whenever they're assisting your pedalling
>>74766370Fuck you communist, I do what I want.
>getting delivery from a jewed menu with tips and fee cucking on topfuck that shit. super market literally drives me groceries every month for $5/day worth of food
>>74766745This doesn't work in practice because no one with a 40 hour job wants to ferry drunks and fuck up their car in their off time.
>>74769473The jewed menu is the most bizarre part. All of the sit-down restaurants have their usual pricing but all fast food ones have their prices hiked up to be more expensive than anything from a sitdown place and with no combo deals either, so there is no reason whatsoever to order from anything but those places.
No, anon, the reason the gig economy is "bad" is because it is going to collapse in on itself eventually, like Moviepass. Very few companies like that are actually functional, like Groupon, and even then it's not worth the initial investment.Most of these companies operate at a loss for years (probably more than a decade) and literally run on investment dollars, then they go bankrupt.This is unironically a good thing because the losers are investors, not the customers, workers, or any business partners (in this case Grubhub's partners are random restaurants around the country). The only loser whatsoever is investors. Another, much more important reason it is bad is because it is disruptive to established systems, which isn't normally a bad thing, but it's definitely a bad thing when a disruptive company is by definition unprofitable and is going to go out of business. Unprofitably disruptive companies are pointlessly disruptive companies. Look at Uber. It's going to go bankrupt as soon as Google decides they're ready to finally push self-driving cars to mainstream public but at the same time Uber is unprofitably disrupting taxi services.
>>74766370I don't. Worth noting, however, that there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.
>>74766664This is less dystopian than spending a third of your time awake in a depressing building and having some manager breathing down your neck at all times.
>>74769711But if Uber doesn't disrupt taxis, when self-driving cars arrive they will disrupt taxis. What's the difference?Taxi --> Uber --> Google carsTaxi --------------> Google cars
>>74770056Profitable company -> unprofitable companies making themselves and other companies also unprofitable -> Different profitable companyVsProfitable company -> Different profitable companyThe second is what a proper economy is built upon. Unprofitable companies are supposed to start small, and then of course remain small and die. Not start big and then die and take everyone around them with them.You are 100% going to see stupid NYT articles in five years talking about the collapse of Uber and how Google is saving the market so investors can stop panicking, all while dancing around the fact that investors created the problem in the first place.
>>74766370I don't because I am too much of a jew to pay delivery fees. Same with pizza I just do carry out not paying $4 dollar delivery fee plus tip for that shit.
>>74770076Sure, but you said it yourself that who is gonna get fucked are the investors.The money will go from taxi drivers to uber drivers then to Google investors. Only who are the workers getting paid will change, no?
>>74766370Na it just needs a Union
>>74770056last time I needed a taxi it took them 3 hours to come pick me up. Pass
>>74770076small time investors and retirement funds will get fucked, the big kikes will cash out before the pop like they always do cause they've got inside info
>>74770136Why didn't you take an uber? Or you did?Is the quality of the service provided by the unprofitable company the problem compared to the profitable old companies?
>>74766370I learn programming at day and grubhub at night. The problem is they are constantly changing things up and it's rarely helpful to ME. and it sucks knowing that an economic dip will kill my employment.
>>74769711Why wouldn't the workers be fucked? With lower end jobs getting automated, when the gig bubble pops I bet its gunna be painful.
>>74770166Uber was quoting they were 45 minutes out so I decided to just stick with it. It wasn't even a busy night but they sent my cab order to the dispatch that covered the west half the city instead of the south suburbs then the cabbie that was coming for me supposedly got into an accident. Not sure if that is true or they were lying but holy fuck it was a bad experience. It was also the middle of the night at a small charter service airport and there was nothing but suburbs around me. Would of been about a mile walk to the nearest hotel which I was debating.They also didn't give me a discount and the trip cost me like 65 buckaroos.
>>74770164Also wrong, gig economy doesn't have growth. The stock quickly settles on a price and only shortselling is a means of profiting from it.
>>74770209I mean to say that the workers are doing jobs that are easily replaceable. If you rely on Uber and they go under tomorrow, you can get that job replaced in days with something similarly paying.
>>74766370Kek. Because working on your own schedule is "slavery". Isn't your "shift" starting soon, wagecuck? Better get ready for work don't want your "boss" to get mad!
>>74766894>first response to criticism of nebulous claims is to screechpost autisticallywew
Grubhub supports local restaurants, making them more accessible to stupid consumers who otherwise pay twice as much money for some shitty TGI Fridays dish. Who cares if some bottom class floater has a shitty gig because of it when they otherwise would remain unemployed?
>>74766370>STOP USING THEM!I want chicken noodles at 2AM. Bring it to me wagie.
The major problem I see with the gig economy is how government uses it to mask unemployment statistics. They take giggers out of the unemployed rate and pretend they have happy jobs with all benefits and that the gov can kick back and relax instead of actually trying to invest in whatever generates actual jobs.
>>74771126Well, if you want a serious answer, the key issue with a workforce full of people that you are describing is that there are only 24 hours of the day, a defined number of working age people in a place, and you therefor have a limited amount of useful work you can get out of them.We live in post-industrialism. It is the leadership's job to provide jobs and use the workforce's time to complete something useful, and then pay the workforce while still ensuring the leadership makes a profit.Except the leadership would rather just assign people to 20 hour/week delivery jobs at best. The most charitable thing to say about this arrangement is the leadership is willfully wasting billions of workhours a year for, uh, reasons?
>>74771166My mayor actually straight said this to me. He just told me "oh, no, actually the unemployment rate is way higher than 3%." He told me that they just don't know cause nobody will truthfully check, and he was clearly mad about it.I dunno, he wasn't running for reelection so maybe he felt like being honest.
>>74771180People have far more useful work in them than they will ever give. Workforce utilization metrics are borderline Marxist. It's simple. "Have task X, willing to pay $Y for it." The Gig economy is just people willing to do task X for $Y.You think "Leadership" is a group of Illuminati people with control of everyone's life? No, Grubhub's leadership is a team managing dev teams working on the software, regulation teams working on all the legal paperwork, and support teams dealing with driver training, and driver and passenger complaints. To Grubhub, their drivers aren't employees that they, they are customers. They have no leadership over them; they just have rules that they enforce to try and herd cats. Like forum moderators.
>>74771207>People have far more useful work in them than they will ever give. Irrelevant, all that matters is optimal numbers in a given tax cycle, which every first world nation is running far below.>The Gig economy is just people willing to do task X for $Y.No, it's leadership offering a stupid, useless X.>You think "Leadership" is a group of Illuminati peopleI didn't read the rest of your post. Leadership in an economic sense is any force the directs work by any means. What a stupid comment.
So when will GrubHub and JustEat merge?
>>74771276>merge More like acquisition. My mistake fucking hell I didn't know Grubhub was that fucking huge.
>>74766664>t. redditor early 20s faggot nigger who is depressed but thinks he's cool and living in some kind of futuristic dystopia. Get a grip of yourself, this is embarassing.
>>74766370I don't and I will not. Also, advocate for yourself. Get paid what you're worth. When you accept a lower wage you hurt us all. Especially the more high profile you are. See: https://twitter.com/dan_abramov/status/1228454264915271683
>>74771309>Also note 40% of that is tax.
>>74766370i get free food at the office
>>74771510Tell what % of your saving will be gone when you have a medical emergency.
>>74766370just for your sake i won't tip my delivery guy when i order some takeout in about an hour
>>74766370I'm against all of this gig shit because it's just one clever shekelberg at the top siphoning money off of people at the bottom while they do twice the work for crumbs and get fired for it. Consolidation is the worst thing for people and small local businesses; yet it always ends up growing fucking huge because of these same people thinking there's nothing wrong with it.
>>74766370don't caredoordashing panda express
>>74771972they already make a fortune by paying people who actually work at McDonald peanuts just so all the profits can go to investors. Boomers are okay with it because they do not understand inflation and think 12 dollars an hour is really good because they got paid less when they were young. Not realizing that adjusted for inflation they were being paid closer to 19 an hour in today's wages for their basic bitch high school job. Majority of politicians are fucking boomers no wonder things are fucked.
>>74766370DoorDash driver hereDon't listen to OP please keep using these services pls
>>74766370All these gig economy companies are a massive bubble anyways. It's all gonna collapse in on itself in due time. None of these companies are making money, look at Uber for example. They're basically on life support with only investor money keeping them afloat. There's a pile of money invested into a industry that can't make money.
>>74766712You do realize that large majority of the lower and middle class workers are in reality free to quit. They live paycheck to paycheck and if they lose their job they lose their home and car.
>>74766370The based chad making the poor virgins bring him food.