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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>How to assemble a PC
https://youtu.be/IhX0fOUYd8Q?t=62

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs
>Athlon 220GE - HTPC, web browsing
>R3 2200G - minimum gaming
>R5 2600 - budget gaming and production CPU, great value
>R5 3600 - great gaming CPU, best price/performance
>R7 2700X - good production CPU
>R7 3700X - great 8-core gaming CPU, even better production CPU
>R9 3900X - best production CPU

AM4 mobos:
>https://imgur.com/qm8xp5w

RAM
>Do NOT use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU, 2x8GB is standard
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended

GPUs
>RX 570 - budget GPU, great value
>GTX 1660 Ti - standard 1080p
>RTX 2060 6GB - higher framerate 1080p/entry 1440p
>RX 5700/XT - best price/performance, 5700 can be flashed with an XT BIOS
>RTX 2070 Super - standard 1440p/budget 4k
>RTX 2080 Ti - best GPU on the market, but very expensive

General
>Adaptive sync (g-sync/freesync) is important for gaming. Generally freesync monitors are cheaper than g-sync monitors. Factor this into your GPU choice if buying both a GPU and monitor. Some monitors support both
>Windows 7 on Ryzen: https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

Storage
>Storage is heavily dependent on each person and your use case, there is no "bare minimum"
>SSDs make a huge difference as a boot drive, as well as for programs and games, avoid DRAM-less SSDs
>Video, Audio and Images do not benefit from SSDs. Put your anime collection on a hard drive
>NVMe does not make a difference in load times for games, however NVMe has reached price parity with SATA SSDs. make sure you have the m.2 slots on your motherboard if you plan to buy more than 1

more
https://rentry.co/pcbg-more
Previous thread: >>73086644
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5700tx or 2060 s.
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>>73093304
at exact same price?
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>>73093304
5700XT
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>>73093304
EZ, 5700XT
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>>73093259
I want to seriously upgrade my gaming rig.
Budget is $16000(yes, I want to spend this amount of cash for upgrade - because I can).
Which parts I should by(I have good big PC case, which is prepared for building of custom water cooling system)?
My PC case is CoolerMaster COSMOS II(pic).
No amd plz.
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>>73093394
look into some overkill builds on youtube
/pcbg/ isn't for people who have more money than sense
you might as well order a 9900k and 2080 Ti now
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>>73093394
You've posted this a few times.
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>>73093304
2060s if you want stable drivers

5700xt if you want to beta test for AMD and Sony
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>>73093415
Okay.
>>73093429
And didn't get answers.
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>>73093394
Pay someone 6k to figure out how to spend the other 10k.
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>>73093471
I want to make the ultimate battle rig.
All games in 4K on ultra settings with 60 FPS.
The most powerful gear(gaming headphones, gaming m.keyboard, kustom gaming mouse, etc).
The Ultra Dominator.
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I have an RX 480 8gb and want to get a new monitor.... I'm looking at the the AOC C24G1. Do you think it would be a good match? It seems like the best deal for 1080p 144hz, but i'm a little iffy about the curved monitor.
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>>73093394
A top tier Z390, 9900K, RTX 2080Ti, 32GB of DDR4 CL14 3600Mhz, two or three M.2/NVMe 2Tb SSDs and then spend the rest on a good ass monitor, preferably one of those 165hz 1440p ultrawide HDR monitors that have come out recently.
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>>73093494
you just sound like a faggot with the way you post
>because I can
>No amd plz
>gaming headphones
there are $2000 4k g-sync HDR monitors, so there's $2k (check hardware unboxed, they have good monitor reviews) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vorAhaiKhS0
get a $1100 pair of stax, they might have a $4k pair or something, ask /hpg/
get a dedicated amp and dac, again, ask /hpg/
buy some air58 for $300 off ebay or amazon

the thing is that you just sound like you want to troll or throw away money. gaming headphones are pure garbage and worse than $70 headphones
I can't imagine how someone so stupid got so much money, so it's more believable you're just being a contrarian anti-AMD fag trying to "flex" on people for being "too poor for intel/nvidia"
look into intel optane as well, find videos of linuscucktips talking about it if you don't know what it is
get a bunch of samsung nvme ssds, and 64GB of 3600MHz CL16 or better
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I have an ssd and hdd (500gb, 1 tb) and I'm doing a complete clean install on the ssd cuz i built new PC.

Back (this shit) up with this shit being programs, games and other stuff on my ssd or just move files from the HDD which isn't a copy but a clone
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who /ufo/ here?
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>>73093394
You're going to want to wait for Intel's next iteration/socket for enterprise computers. Whatever the hell they end up doing to answer the Threadripper-tier competition and pcie 4.0 compatibility. Then
>RAID pcie 4.0 NVME 2TB
>However Titan RTX you care to shove in it, assuming they still have SLI or whatever available
>4k 144Hz 10bit/HDR monitor
No idea if you'll ever saturate that refresh rate, but you can do better than 60fps at that budget.

>>73093494
>"""gaming""" headphones
Don't you fucking dare. Go ask the autists at the headphone general or get a real sound system.
>gaming m.keyboard
At least, don't buy a namebrand gaymer keyboard, they're garbage. You can get a custom one, and the mechanical keyboard general has more info than you'll want to bother with. Maybe they know of a new assdrop keyboard waiting to happen.
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I'm new which one should I download? There's even more stuff on the website https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X470-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/
I asked this question last thread but i wanted to know if they were all the same thing or if I downloaded the first thing it would download everything else for me as well? Sorry for being a newfaggot.
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for 1080p 60fps and holding off 5 years until the next upgrade is the 2060 super enough?
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>>73093745
depends on the games and settings
metro exodus, shadow of the tomb raider and control are all very demanding
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Is the Crucial P1 worth buying?
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>>73093846
yes, it's basically the same as the intel 660p
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>>73093852
Does it have any throttling issues like some m.2 drives do?
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>tfw too poor to do a no-compromise $5000 gayman build including peripherals
>tfw probably wouldn't be worth it considering games are shit now a days anyways
>tfw probably wouldn't be enough difference compared to a value build in the end anyway
>tfw probably would just end up being a shitposting machine most of the time anyway
>tfw it wouldn't fill the void in your life anyway
you know these feels?!
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will a 6700k bottleneck a 2060 super?
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MSI 1660ti Ventus any good?
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case cpu clearance is 160mm but the size of cpu cooler with fan is 171mm.

It's not gonna fit but luckily id didn't buy the cooler yet
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>>73093394
Give me 2-3k for transport and shit, and I will make it for you.
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how much is the difference between 2060 and the 2060 super worth it in your opinion?
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>>73093567
>Run userbench with i3
>UFO
>Run userbench with 3900x
>Raft classification
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>>73094048
take the price of 2060 and multiply it by 1.18.
That or anything less than that price, get the 2060super, not even a question.
Above that price it's more debatable.
How about you list the prices for both cards in your region?
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>>73093567
userbench is worthless
not saying that because of some brand loyalty or something, just that it's algorithms are actual trash
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I need a PC with a bunch of PCIe lanes for not only my GPU, but a bunch of NVME SSDs, NIC, etc. I can get a Threadripper 2920X 12c24t for $300 brand new. Is it worth it?
>inb4 wait for 7nm Threadripper
I'm not paying launch day pricing not to mention being a beta tester for new tech. I do game, however it's at the bottom of my list of needs. I just need muh cores and muh PCIe lanes.
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>>73093394
No point in spending 16k in one go for gayming. Spend maybe 3k now and the rest for upgrades over the next few years.
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>>73094294
Actually I can even get a 1920X for $200 brand new.
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>>73093394
>No amd plz.
a fool and his money are soon parted :)
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I am looking forward to my purchase of a 3700x on Black Friday of 2020. 4c/4t corelet here but I haven't had any issues with it since I only play old RPGs.
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>>73094516
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DX13 whe
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Am I autismo for thinking the research and graphs in pc building is more fun than actually building the thing?
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>>73094704
Lol 1c/1t is actually the most based option of all
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I'm looking for a cheap 27" 1080p monitor for my ps3 that I use as a multimedia/home cinema thing, on top of playing gaems
I can probably fit a 27" in my shelf but no bigger than that, currently using a 20" 768p thing
budget is "as cheap as possible thanks", characteristics do not matter honestly, so far I've had no complaints from people when watching movies on my small cheap monitor
right now I'm looking at the Acer K272HLEbid, Dell SE2717H and ViewSonic VA2710-MH
thanks
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>>73094771
Not really. It's that way for a lot of people's interests. It's the imagination and idea of the thing that's always better than the real thing.
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>>73094294
>>73094336
Bump please help. Is the 2920X worth $100 more than the $1920X?
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>>73094751
Never. 11 and 12 already do everything you need and graphics APIs don't make muh gayms run faster. OpenGL and Vulkan are better anyway.
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>>73094316
this. Making an overkill system is definitely cool and makes me hard, BUT is clearly wasteful (hence the term "overkill"). With 16k ull be able to keep a top tier pc for years with all the upgrades. Or simply paying maintaince costs
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>>73093259
Is the Seasonic Focus+ line good? Anyone had any issues with it? I found a good deal.
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>>73094891
Probably

>>73094983
Yes
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>>73094891
>worth $100 more
Don't think so.
1920x vs 2920x: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_3z0DXsMo
1920x gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPuoM6QY-9c&t=6m14s
2920x gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch41ZLBczOQ
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>>73095086
ok thanks. How's this? I know the GPU is underpowered but want something that can handle multiple monitors (single 4K in center, 2x 1080p on the sides). I already own the monitors.
>1TB SSD is for OS and application installation
>2TB SSD's are for RAID 0 for virtual machines, editing work, and occasional game installation
>4x4TB disks are for backups of everything

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFDt6R
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>>73093567
userbenchmark is useless
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>>73093394
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8QJhMc
now use the 3k+ for your water cooling
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>>73095284
>$16k build
>consumer as fuck 9900k
"No."
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>>73095310
then just swap it those new intel HDT's
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>>73095310
he said gaming though
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>>73095316
>>73095343
here ya go. A full, pants on head, retarded, more money than sense build. Use the rest of the budget for a custom water loop, more RGB cancer, and some pop tarts.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZvMjXv
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>>73095406
>single 27 inch monitor for 2 titans
no
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>>73095454
>size of the monitor somehow means anything
It's 27" 144HZ IPs 3840x2160p. To get anything even remotely approaching high refresh rate, you'd need a Titan SLI for 4K
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>>73095470
the list says 2 titans, if you're gonna spend 16k on a fucking build might as well get a bfgd. go big or go home
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>>73095479
true but now a 4K panel of that nature is over the $16k budget. Everyone knows true PC gamers need a minimum of $20k to get anything remotely decent.
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>>73095505
since I'm assuming the guy who wanted the build is doing this more for epeen points the bfgd makes more sense instead of the ram as 65 inch 4k displays are the new hotness. 27 is really small for enthusiast standards especially with a budget like that. a high end 34 is minimum imho for those kinds of builds
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>>73093259
Is there any real difference between the AM4 mobos listed here?
https://imgur.com/qm8xp5w
I'm trying to choose one rn.
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>>73095529
depends. what's your budget?
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>>73094933
>Never
Lol. DX13 will probably be out 2022 at the latest for Windows 11 have features arbitrarily locked to it, it will not be backwards compatible with previous graphics cards
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>>73095246
>GPU is underpowered
Weaker than the rx 570. But at least you know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm7oyg_s-8k&t=8m12s

>RAID 0 SSD
SSDs have huge IOPs. Raid 0-ing them seems unnecessary.
Without a pressing need I would avoid setting it up such that a failure of one device leading to the other device also being useless.

4 ram sticks looks fine.
Don't know how much heat the cpu spits out and whether your cooler is up to it.
Don't know whether your ssds can handle huge drive writes (eg: copying complete vm images back and forth).

Don't know what is needed for pci passthrough re: threadripper.
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>>73095540
For a mobo i'm going all out to upgrade the ram cpu gpu etc later.
So is there anything between the top AM4s listed that I should look for?
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>>73095573
Anyone have any info on building/buying a rugged PC case?
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>>73095573
the gigabyte x570 elite and the Asus tuff x570 are the go to 200$ "budget" options recommended by nearly everyone since they have good components. the current msi ones supposedly suck, something about the VRM's overheating aside from the upcoming unify board. the asrock taichi is also supposedly really good
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>>73095582
>building
for building a table with pc inside is usually a good path a pc built into a suitcase is also an option
>buying a rugged PC case?
rugged how? industrial design? or do you plan to lug it around?
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>>73095246
Why Raid? Are you really willing to double your risk of harddrive failure to strip a second off your Sims 3 load times?
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>>73095549
>Don't know how much heat the cpu spits out and whether your cooler is up to it.
The cooler is fine, it can actually handle up the 16 core threadripper chips no problem
>Don't know whether your ssds can handle huge drive writes (eg: copying complete vm images back and forth).
Well Sabrent Rockets are TLC based with dedicated caches, so I don't think there will be a problem. NAND write span is good too. Notlike I'm trying to use Intel 660p no cache having QLC
>Don't know what is needed for pci passthrough re: threadripper.
It apparently needed some work at launch, but people got it working. I don't really pass much through to a VM as they're only really used for testing and compiling things (android environment, etc)

And yea I'll probably ditch RAID 0 for the SSDs. As for the GTX1650, I'm getting it because it's the most powerful card I can get for cheap and that doesn't require more power than just the PCIe slot. My gaming is very little and even when I do, it's stuff like some Dark souls, platformers and what not. I'm not looking to do AAA stuff. I also forgot to add an Intel 4x 10Gb/s port card.
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>>73095613
>sims 3
lol no. But yea see >>73095623
I'm coming from using mechanical storage for my VM's so RAID 0 was required for any sort of speed otherwise it's slow as fuck. I underestimated just how quick these newer NVME SSDs are.
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>>73095609
>suitcse
I didn't even think of that.
Also, rugged like pelican cases or specifically
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugged_computer
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>>73095643
you could easily build one in a pelican case
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I want to buy RX 570 4GB but 5500 just go announced. How expansive you predict it to be? Will it be gud? Is it worth waiting few months?
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>>73095663
4gb cards don't really cut it anymore.
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>>73095688
Then give me money for 8GB version.
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>>73095598
Is there any downsides to x570?
eg. If I can assume there will be another addition to the x series of AM4 mobos should I just choose an older model or would I loose features?
>>73095660
Asking if anyone has info on specificly this now or where I would find info on it.
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>>73095546
Wintards and ms pajeets know they don't need another windows to dominate the market. Besides, they know bootcamp brainlets are gonna learn how to use azure and that'll make them money instead. Name one feature d3d13 will have over 11 or 12 that can't just be lumped on as an update to either. Also winblows 10 just has a rolling release update schedule so no windoze 11 for you.
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>>73095700
>Is there any downsides to x570?
eg. If I can assume there will be another addition to the x series of AM4 mobos should I just choose an older model or would I loose features?
x570 has pcie 4.0 if u don't know what it's for chances are you don't need it aside from that a lot of people really don't like the fan found on x570 boards which we currently don't know if they're gonna crap out once the warranty runs out or shit. there's a reason why the b450 max boards are really popular.
>Asking if anyone has info on specificly this now or where I would find info on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBvdOQIRzHw
this should give you an idea on how to start it off
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>Transfer rate capped at 113MB/s over the local network
FUCK I really need to invest into a couple of those Asus 10Gb cards and some faster SSDs. This shit is suffering.
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>>73095688
>4gb cards don't really cut it anymore.
rx 570 4gb vs 8gb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtNEZveIpgs
conclusion: at 1080p, in a bunch of games, no difference
obviously future games might be different, but if you have a backlog of games then a 4gb model is pretty fine.
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>>73095715
Thank all of you.
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>>73093671
Once you get windows running, the only driver packages you need will be downloaded automatically.

The only thing I ever download are bios updates and maybe WiFi drivers.
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>>73095737
>1080p
Oh, you are building a graphing calculator? Carry on then
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>>73095663
Wait for the rx 570's to go on deep discount or get a normally discounted 580 8gb like the sapphire pulse. Right now there's no real harm in waiting for black friday and seeing what 5500 news crops up. Worst case scenario, it's just another 580 that draws less power, but would probably be priced in line with the 570's. I'm hoping however it encroaches on 1660 territory to force a price adjustment. Getting most 1660 models to 200 would be neat.
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I need some recommendation for a laptop for 700€, the main use will be web and office most likely nothing heavier than that. Is intel still preferable on laptops or is amd better? Also in most cheap laptop i saw the hinge would break after a while, is there any brand better on this front?
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>>73095406
Really close to my project, but it needs some changes.
First: I said GAMING build. That processor isn't for gaming - it's more for working in supercomputers.
Second: I hate RGB lights! I love only red lights.
And third: where can I find pop tarts in Russia?
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>>73096194
>I hate RGB lights
You said you were a gamer.
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Should I buy 9900kf or 9900k, is there any difference other than missing gpu?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YyPqq3
>Budget
Around $2500 (USD), but not firm (excludes monitor and external hard drive)
>Purpose
Primarily gaming, but also browsing
How does my build look?
Should I get an SSD just for booting my OS? Should I look into a getting a sound card? Also, you can ignore the external drive, that's for transferring files I have on old laptops.
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>>73096352
3700x
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>>73096330
I am oldschool gamer.
In times of my youth we beat the shit out of RGB lights lovers.
That old good times...
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>>73096386
AMD not an option. Mainly gaming at 240 hz.
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>>73096387
I'm sure you could find someone willing to sell their n64 for $16,000.
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>>73096407
twice the money and twice the power for 5% more fps? ok
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Is crucial P1 good?
How it's compared to samsung 970?
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/pcbg/, I need building for software
development
I don’t play vidya but occasionally watch 60fps sports and movies
Would be Ryzen 5 enough for this task? What gpu should I buy?
Please help.
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>>73096407
>Paying 200 dollars more for a cpu that will be worse in 1 year or so
Enjoy
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>>73096426
15-25% you mean and lower latencies? Ok indeed.
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Building pc for brother. He wants ray tracing. Should I give him 2060S or try to convince him to get 5700xt?
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>>73096413
I have a really old gaming PC, which I bought for playing in classic DOS games.
But I need a monster gaming rig for modern games too.
That's why I came here.
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>>73096177
probably better asking /tpg/, any advice here will be to just make your own pc with much better specs than a laptop
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>>73096479
>will be worse in 1 year or so
Explain why.

Is this thread occupied by AMD shills or what's up?
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>>73096491
Don't be stupid, you don't have to leave it on RGB puke you can set it all to a single color like red.

Also you should do a SFF PC instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7m3SnsigOM
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Best way to clean dust and pet hair out of heat sinks?
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Is spending extra on rx 580 over rx 570 is worth it? Will i notice a difference?
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>>73096451
Brother is in software development. When he asked me to build him a pc a year ago he specifically asked I add more cores. I'm not sure what you're working on but I think the same applies to your case as well. Maybe at least 8 cores.
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>>73096489
what resolution and refresh rate will he be playing at?
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>>73096505
>Software/bios optimizations for zen 2
>Consoles using zen 2
>Intel's infinite security vulnerabilities
Enjoy your buyer's remorse
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Is the 5700XT a good upgrade coming from an R9 Fury? Is it capable of stable 1440p at like 60fps?
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>>73096555
Especially true for C++. Compilers are relatively slow, but they can compile multiple source files in parallel, pretty much as many as you want. So yeah, you want fast storage and many cores. I don't know whether hyperthreading helps or not.
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>>73096603
Pathetic.

Question still stands >>73096352.
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>>73096625
Easily, yes. On average, it should be able to perform +80fps, ultra @1440p
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>>73093304
5700 XT is miles better than 2060 S
I'd recommend getting an after market XT though, not stock blower, they're not the best.
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I need a /g/ approved nvme SSD.
Is plextor m9peg good enough? It's TLC but it's better than QLC thash
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>>73096861

3rd one I guess
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>>73096861
3rd from left
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>>73096861
>hdd (with rubber rings)
>optical
>motherboard and most other things
>fan
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>>73096887
>>73096892
>>73096861
Thanks bros. I tried with the one in the fart left until I noticed it didn't really do the job well. I hope I haven't messed the hole.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kb2hMc

Ordered this on Sunday, some parts already arrived. Monitor is a place holder since PPP doesn't have the 144Hz version I got.
I'm having doubts about the case I got now that I got it. Probably should've got something with a USB-C front connector as well.
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>>73096950
The drive is a bit expensive if you don't end up needing the speed, but otherwise a solid gaming build
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnpf7T

i built this, did i make a mistake?
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>>73096966
Looks like you got good prices on used parts, looks good
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>>73096965

I actually changed that last minute, I had a 250GB initially. I needed a little extra storage space (even though I do plan to get another drive down the line) and I felt like splurging on a really fast one since it's gonna be the main boot drive and the one least likely to ever get replaced.
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My laptop crapped out, looking into building a PC for the first time. Budget is around $1000 CAD (750USD). Going to use for homework and light gaming. Any suggestions?
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>>73096988
cool, i'll make sure to add some meme rgb.
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>>73097086
Are you sure you won't miss the convenience of a laptop?
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>>73096966
no no blin you made good pc, post pictures!
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>>73097142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30fAvrpj18
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>>73097161
I dont carry my laptop to my classes and use the university computers when I need it.
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R5 4600x when?
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>>73097086
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MZzqsk

Unless you need monitor and etc. Also, wait for RX5500, should disrupt the market a little. Used 8gb RX580s are also a good deal if you can get it at 90 USD or lower
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>>73097086
how light gaming? might just want to do a simple box with 2400G/3400G
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fFQ7T
idk canuckbucks but that should be a good baseline, dunno if your budget needs to include a monitor or if your gaming needs a discrete GPU
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>>73097255
I mostly play CSGO. I think the price works well for me
>>73097231
You think I can use cheaper graphics card? My friend is picking up free cards from Craigslist and told me I can have one for free
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>>73093259
Best 8gb gpu card for a poorfag? I plan to use it for gaming at 1080 and photoshop most likely
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>>73097170
i will when i put it together! waiting on one last thing to get here.
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>>73093259
New Ryzen 3500 + New Radeon 5500.
Budget power combo.
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>>73097354
Rx580 i guess there arent many cheap 8gb cards.
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>>73097372
Not out yet.
No performance benchmarks yet.
No prices.
But here's hoping.
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>>73097322
CS:GO should easily run on the 2400G/3400G's iGPU, or whatever free/cheap shitty dGPU you pick up
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>>73097393
Yes, fingers crossed. It's hard to fuck this up.
I'm expecting $150 territory for either.
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>>73097322
You can use definitely go cheaper, CS:GO runs on anything. Which card is your friend giving you?
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>>73097354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPyYTBylm6o
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>>73093522
VA panel. One of the best, but still has moderate black smearing even if you don't use Freesync and lock to 144Hz using the Strong overdrive setting

>>73093561
Program installs will all be borked. Just save your documents / other files and export your bookmarks as html. Of course there might be some other shit you need too save. You can also save your steam games folder and rehash after you reinstall stream

>>73093671
Don't install bloatware

>>73093745
Probably

>>73093888
No

>>73093943
Depends on pricing

>>73094771
Building the thing sucks. Not as bad as disassembling / resembling consoles, which I used to do all the time. Basically like working with a laptop chassis
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>>73097413
Im not sure, he just told me this yesterday.
>>73097397
Thanks for the info
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>>73096352
Whichever is cheaper. 9900k if they're the same price. The iGPU might not be worth much, but it's better to have it than not have it if your primary GPU shits itself for example.
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>>73097449
>NVIDIA
Is not the only option, fortunately.
>>73097354
Your best bang/buck is a 5700xt today (~$400), but probably 5500 (~$200) once the cards are out soon, as 5700xt is overkill for 1080p.
I'd go with a sapphire nitro+ card.
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Just got one of these. Have to wait a few days before I can test it though.
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Ironically, I found a 850W Seasonic that is actually CHEAPER than the 750W one in the same category (both are Focus). What should I do? Even though I don't actually need that many watts, is it a problem if the PSU is too powerful?
I know this is a retarded question, pls no bulli.
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>>73097493
>poorfag
>400$ gpu
Mate thats probably his monthly salary why would you even suggest that.
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>>73097532

550W, 650W and 750W get bought more often so it's not uncommon for shops to have sales where a higher wattage PSU is on the same price or even lower, just to get rid of stock
To answer your question, your computer will only consume as much power as it needs, having a higher wattage PSU won't mean more consumption and it's actually good to use 75% or less of what it can handle. It will run less hot and if it's a hybrid it might not ever get hot enough to even have to spin its fan.
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>>73097532
Any difference will likely be negligible. Although the higher wattage unit might run 0 rpm more often
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>>73097532
if it's the same price you're willing to spend for 750W, go for it. It's only going to draw the amount of power you need, the number is just how much it can pull at max load
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Will 10th gen Intel processors require yet another mb upgrade?
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>>73097563
amd shill unironically
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Can I play 1440p games with 2060 super?
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>>73097616
It's actually slightly cheaper, about 5$ difference. Both brand new of course.

>>73097588
>>73097605
Alright, thanks, looks like I'm gonna go for the 850W one.
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>>73097623
Honestly sounds like it. Only a retard or a shill would suggest high end gpu to a poorfag.
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are there any decent 9th gen Intel ITX boards that aren't the overpriced z390?
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>>73097623
>>73097645
Get a job.
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>>73093259
AMD is a CHINESE company that only got relevant in the last 2 years or so and you fuckers are buying their shit like CATTLE. Intel is a proven company that exists for decades and will always obviously make better products, they're also based in our greatest ally's nation, Israel.

Get Intel and save yourself from sponsoring the chinamen and having slow speeds and low ugly unsupported graphics.
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>>73097668
we can't all get paid to astroturf an anime forum all day
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>>73094125
>>73095274
t. coping boatlets
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>>73097668
not everyone can be employed to shill for a multinational corporation on a mongolian glass blowing imageboard like yourself anon.

next time try looking at all the recommendation requirements before launching into your sales pitch
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>>73097719
>>73097726
Pathetic cope.
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>>73097630
Yes, but optimally but it would be decent.
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>>73097668
Why are you responding to me and not to the anon that asked for a budget gpu? I own a high end gpu myself but dont go around suggesting it to everyone.
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>>73097703
actually they're both almost entirely American
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>>73097758
He's seething anon, I'd never suggest my own card because everyone's requirements are different but in his mind he has linked his self worth to some faceless corporation and can only feel like he has spent his money wisely by having others buy the same thing.
>>73097354
if you're willing to shop around on ebay for used, you can find a decent 1070 or even 1080 for 200-300
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>bought an XC Ultra 2070S from amazon
>its DOA
>send it back to EVGA
>they send me back a 2080 XC Ultra
based?
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>>73097913
Clearing old stock
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>>73097913
nice upgrade, I've heard of EVGA doing stuff like this. Personally I had alot of troubles when LGA 775 first rolled out and I bought one of their motherboards. I kept hamfisting it and had bent pins and RMAs for two months, but bless that company they kept sending me out new boards until the thing finally worked. That's why I'll always buy my GPUs from them.
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>>73097657
anyone with any input on this?
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What's the the best high-end mid-tower case if money isn't a concern? Planning to make it air-cooling focused
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>>73097657
>>73098059
B365 mITX boards are usually cheapish. You're always going to pay a price premium for mITX though.
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>>73097657
>>73098059
there only this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4DBTwP/asrock-b365m-itxac-mini-itx-lga1151-motherboard-b365m-itxac
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Building my first PC in anticipation for Red Dead Redemption 2. Can anyone here give me any insight?
I don't want anything melting or exploding, I'm not sure if this is high-end, low-end or anything. I've asked my buddies and now I wanna see what strangers on the internet have to say about it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n4vpgJ
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Lads, I have a shiny new R3700x with a nice 1440p monitor ready to rock, but I am a bit afraid of buying the 5700xt due to 5800 and etc coming soon, what do?
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>>73098126
Buy a $1525 machine for a $60 shitty game.

Plus,why getting a normal 2070 if you have AMD 5700xt for the same price or go for a 2070 super.
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>>73098126
get 2060 super or 2070 super and 3700x (change mobo, msi tomahawk max)
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>>73098113
that board isn't that bad, but what is that little red and black wire for the computer illiterate and is there a way to hide it?
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>>73098136
>afraid of buying the 5700xt due to 5800 and etc coming soon
rx 5500 is going to be 1080p rx 580 level
rx 5800 is... oem part numbering?
I haven't read any rumors of anything other amd gpus launch in the next month or two.
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>>73097980
That makes sense

>>73098037
That's why I went with them, I heard their customer service was really good and I can see why they have that rep. I hope they start making AMD cards in the future, since they're starting to be competitive again.
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>>73098177
https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-12-radeon-rx-5800-and-navi-14-rx-5700-gpu-specs-detailed/
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>>73098157
>>73098171
I just wanna make sure I can run the game comfortably, I'm unsure I can with my current computer.

Right now my processor is an AMD FX 8350 with an Nvidia GTX 1050Ti

Thanks for the motherboard tip too, I'll swap it right out.
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>>73098206
I went for a X570 mobo, if you can pay it is less stress (mobo BIOS needs to be updated with a compatible CPU before installing new one) and more future proof.
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>>73098071
Cooler Master MasterCase H500M
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>>73098126
>core frozr
That has to be the first time I've seen it in a build list
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>>73098126
ftfy
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V3nYJb

don't forget to set the xmp profile for the memory. i included an extra exhaust fan as well. 650W would be more than enough for the PSU, but for some reason the 750W version was cheaper. you had 2 cpu coolers selected btw
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3900X dedicated encoding machine is finally up and running. Thing is running amazingly well. So nice no longer have to lock up my main machine. Was hoping the 3950X would be out by now, but whatever. Probably wouldn't have been able to get my hands on one at launch anyways.
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>>73098200
I thought the the rx 5500 and mobile varient accounted for the navi 12 and 14 rumors. If not, then what navi number are they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjh52opoCn0&t=6m29s
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>>73098243
based
I have the regular H500 but my fans dont light up
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>>73098238
Money isn't too much of a concern, I have a potential buyer looking my motorcycle.

>>73098244
This is my first time so I'm probably making retarded choices...

>>73098252
Oh thank you! This is a really good price then and I get everything I wanted at 300 less.
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>>73098284
I heard the scythe fuma 2 is pretty good money-wise. I don't have it though
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>>73098238
>>73098284
MAX version of mobo, is compatible out of box with ryzen 3000
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>>73098273
navi 14 vs rx 580 benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7cpe1zdRmc&t=3m50s
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>mfw I'll be able to flash a 5800xt bios to my 5700xt red devil
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>>73098126
Thank you for everyone's advice, I think that I'll go with this build here.
>>73098252
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>>73098348

if it is much cheaper than a x570 then do it. I have been hearing that Zen 3 in 2021 will use DDR5 already, so another mobo will be needed.
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>>73098284
My recommendation:

B450 mobo by MSI or Asrock (these can support non OC 3900x no problem)

CPU:

ryzen 3600 non-x (its pretty much a clone of 8700k, excellent performer all around, games, work work smooth af)

OR 3700x if you multitask+photoshop multiple layers+encoding video files+999 chrome tabs.

OR 3900x/3950x if you can utilize all the cores in one way or another.

IMHO get 3600 and upgrade to next year ryzen 4700x if you would REALLY need more power because the mobo will be able to support AM4 next get chips.

16 GB ram 3200 mhz cl16
SSD nvme 1 TB (for os, programs and games)
HDD Wester Digital Black (if you need one for porn and archiving, size up to you)
PSU 550/600 W Gold (depends how powerfull you want GPU)
Air cooler bequiet/noctua/coolermaster whatever you want.

GPU:
1080p games: RTX2060 super
1440p games: RTX 2060 super on High details or RTX 2070 super on ultra details
1440p ultrawide: RTX 2080 super or better

I don't know Radeon cards so I cant recommend them, maybe someone will say something more about them.

Watch some Techdeals youtube channel to get some idea what would happen if you spend more money and what can you expect to get if you have some free time to spare.
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>>73097703
>only got relevant in the last 2 years
You don't understand computing history at all, retard

>The original specification, created by AMD and released in 2000, has been implemented by AMD, Intel and VIA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
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Hello /pcbg/. My first major PC build in a long time that I only built around 3 days ago is constantly crashing when I give it any sort of encoding job to do. I then tried to have it run prime95 blend test and it failed within 3 minutes. Running
>R5-1600 CPU @ stock clocks
>Stock cooler
>Gigabyte A320 chipset motherboard
>2x4GB of G-skill ripjaw 3200MHz memory
>EVGA 80+ white PSU

The stock CPU only sees around 62C under extreme loads before it shits the bed. The PC would last around 20 minutes of encoding before.blue screening and restarting. Prime95 would result in failure within 5 minutes or less but no restart.

I'm about ready to just fucking return everything to Microcenter. Was just wondering if there's anything I missed as far as testing. Thinking maybe a RAM failure which is why prime95 crashes so quickly? Or could it be something else?
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>>73098496
FYI if you have a gsync monitor, the gsync doesn't work with AMD.
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>>73098754
gsync and etc only really matters if you have fps higher than the refresh rate and with modern games and graphics this is a bit hard desu
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>>73098748
Memtest? Or maybe a bad motherboard.
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>>73098771
While that may be the case he's getting a 5700XT which should be good enough to do that on most games and you don't want to waste something like gsync considering it adds a good $100 to the price tag.
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>>73098798
Yea I have to make a self bootable of memTEST but I'm unsure if I want to bother or just get to the store before they close. I did notice that the CPU seemed reluctant to actually properly load cores 4 and 6 in encoding. All other cores would be locked to 100% but those cores would be bouncing all around from 2% to 86%. Maybe the A320 board I have is just a slouch in the power delivery department? I figured for a stock first gen, it would be enough. Maybe I'm wrong
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>>73093259
Remember when AMD marketed a sharpening filter?
Remember how they tried to imply that it's only possible on Navi without performance loss?
Yeah.....
Seems now that Nvidia has also output a sharpening filter for their gpus because why not.
AMD is forced to add it to vega as well.
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>>73098771
You can always just cap your FPS at your max refresh rate. I experience pretty much zero tearing from all my gameplay with no sync of any kind.
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>>73098865
>Turning it on gives higher framerates
???
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>>73098882
It's margin of error anon, it doesn't mean jack shit.
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>State budget & CURRENCY
Ontario, Canada w/ 2000$ CAD budget

>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
VM work, game dev (including 3D modelling), lighter games like CS:GO, Stardew Valley, League, and looking to Cyberpunk 2077

>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
Don't need monitors or other peripherals.

I'm looking to spend about 2k CAD on a computer that'll last me a while. Budget isn't hard, but I think I'm buying a machine that's more powerful than I need for 2k already.

I do a lot of dev work, and some 3D modelling, I'll be needing a lot of SSD space (500gb - 1 tb) as well as a 500gb HDD to toss stuff onto.
I also want something like 16 or 32 gigs of RAM.

I want to be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 next year so that's kind of what I'm shooting for.

For cases and aesthetics, it'll be on the floor, so not a big deal, something cleaner and unobtrusive would be good though. Don't want something screaming 'VIDEO GAMES'

Also, considerations for streaming?
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I've been eyeing the 1tb adata xpg sx8200 pro for OS/games would my money be better spent on another option?
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Picked up a "broken" EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid for super cheap, it actually works but you have to flip the case upside down and then right it to prime the pump so that it actually circulates.
What would I need to get this issue fixed? I've been trying to find one of the EVGA 1070/1080 Hybrid kits to just swap out the AIO, but I can't find any in stock. Would any AIO drop right in, or do I need a specific mounting size?
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>>73098243
Looks good, might buy it
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>>73093259
Nakadashitai!!
(Can I just slap -tai on everything? It's clear what I'm trying to say even if not grammatically correct, right?)
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>>73098900
if budget threadripper is something you can pull off in CA might want to consider that, but next gen is out in a month, can probably get 24c for $1000, but still uncertain if the platform is backwards/forwards compatible.
if not, this is a good baseline (GPU is placeholder, just get the best AIB you can find for around the same price):
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ynPRBZ
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should I get 3600mhz cl18 or 3200mhz cl16 to use with a 3900x? both kits are around the same price
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>>73099049
Check the datasheet for the 3600 module. Check its CL at 3200 in the timings table.
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Is it a big deal if one of the "clips" on the motherboard's PCIE slot broke off? The GPU is still in place but one of the clips broke when I was putting it in. It ran fine though.
Another thing is I fucked up my CPU when its pins bent as I ripped it out along with the fan while trying to take off the stock AMD fan. Am currently waiting on a replacement CPU. Is there any circumstance in which I should be worried that the motherboard took some hidden damage that makes the PC run deficiently or even dangerously, or is it a case where if it boots and gives the right benchmarks, it's fine?
This is my first homebuilt PC and it's been a really sour experience.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FsqTWb

Feedback? Gonna be used mainly for gaming, hooked to a 27" high refresh rate for multiplayer and to a 75" 4k tv for media playback and campaign focused games.

My max budget is 2500 usd, for the pc and monitor
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>>73098900
>VM work, game dev
>Also, considerations for streaming?

Probably 3700X for the CPU. 3900X is even better, but may/may not be worth the extra 200 dollars or so.

GPU is another key concern -- it primarily drives the advice of "build around your monitor". What resolution and framerate are you OK with or aiming for? In general though, I think >>73098986's list is good.
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If I bought a Phanteks case and wanted extra 140mm fans would they have to be Phanteks as well? Can I use others as long as measurements are the same?
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>>73099241
Yeah you can use others
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>>73099185
Get a TN panel for your monitor. Because of your TV, you don't need the color/contrast features of a VA panel monitor, and with a TN panel, you'll completely avoid fake response times.

An example replacement: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MXQG3C
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>>73095760
>>73097460
Sorry for the late response but what about audio, usb, lan, chipset and GPU drivers? Those are the only important ones right? Everything else is not useful right?
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>>73099185
Looks breddy gud overall, for the same price for that PSU though I'd probably go for a Supernova G3 instead of a GS if you want to stick with EVGA.
If you're alright with the looks I'd go with a Be Quiet Pure Rock (not the Pure Rock Slim) or a Scythe or Arctic Freezer cooler, all are a similar size but will perform slightly better. The 212 will perform fine, I'm not a fan of the mounting, but that's not a big deal.
Agree with >>73099332, either get a TN or go for a proper IPS panel. VA panels have never been great to me
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>have to hit monitor in the back like an old TV to get it to work
well lads she had a good run
What are some good monitors (1080 or 1440p) for $300-$350 price range? I haven’t been display shopping in a while.
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>>73098865
Nvidia's has a bit more flexibility but isn't as optimized
Be nice if AMD could "borrow" some of it's features
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>>73099202
I'm looking for something like 1080p with high frame rate and with a 144hz monitor

>>73098986
awesome! thanks, list looks good, I forgot how cheap storage is nowadays
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>Get my 3900x running.
>God dammit this thing runs hot. Reaching almost 90C in Cinebench at stock and it idles at 50C.
>Either my cooler is ass or this chip is a total housefire like many people say.
>Get the new god tier Noctua NT-H2 paste and try that out of curiosity.
>Wipe off the stock Alphacool shit and repaste.
>Even when overclocked temps are 10-20C lower.
>Now idles at bit above 30C and tops out at 78C after 10 minutes of Cinebench runs. Stock maxes out at 72C.

What sorcery is this?
Almost certain I didn't screw anything up, but I must have somehow fucked up applying the first paste or there was something seriously off with the stock paste.
There's no way the thermal paste alone can make this much difference, right? I often see differences of just few degrees between the pastes.
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>>73096555
Then if that's webdev you have to run your development environment and web server and database which again demands fast storage and extra cores.
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>>73099706
what's your cooler? If it's a small one it'll be bound mostly by thermal interface
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building pc atm, noticed that one of the VRM (?) screws didn't seem to be in place, if was just kinda hanging out on top
I've managed to push it through and I think it's secure but I honestly dk
Am I fucked or am I fine, I've circled the offending screw
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What's a good mouse that actually has an omron switch worth shit not made in China? I got a g502 and it's fucking double clicking left and right not even a year old. Yes I know how you can fix it. I tried doing that on my performance MXes earlier this year and couldn't manage it. I have a warranty on the G502 but I want to find a new mouse for when this issue happens again
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>>73093259
>tfw can't read the temperature sensor for my 1800x on linux so no idea if it's overheating or not
i've had it for years so it's probably fine, right?
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>>73099721
I have the Eisbaer LT360, so a pretty beefy AIO.
I guess this is a good reminder for people to get good pastes going on with their new CPUs.
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In your opinion, what's a good brand of thermal paste? I've heard that Kryonaut scratches surfaces it's applied to. What about Arctic Silver?
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Quick graphics setting question. If I'm down sampling from 4k to 1080p. What settings can I disable that are redundant? Antiscoptic? MSAA? Shadow detail? I read that leaving some settings on will actually make it look worse.
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>>73097499
The Aoc 24G2 has a way better stand.
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>>73099785
Seeing the performance of the NT-H2 in my system, my vote for a great paste definitely goes for this new Noctua.
Arctic Silver is a good brand too though.
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>>73099785
Last time I checked some benchmarks, I think all pastes coming with decent coolers performed more or less the same, so you can probably use one that comes with yours.
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>>73099813
MSAA I think is one or rather it just adds more work for the machine.
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>>73099753
I hate the embarrassing state of affairs in Linux with auxiliary technologies like temperature control or power saving.
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>https://streamable.com/p8riu
>VA black smearing vs IPS glow
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>>73099723
That's just a screw for the chipset heatsink, you're fine. Just make sure its as secure as can be
>>73099360
GPU drivers yes but you get those through nvidia or and. Like I said the rest of that you'll get through windows automatically.
>>73099241
Any 140mm fan will fit, 120mm and 140mm fan sizes are standardized so the mounting holes will be uniform across companies.
>>73099155
Outside of the PCIe clip your motherboard is fine unless you bent the pin and broke it in the socket. How did you manage both those problems though?
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So I've got this blue/green tint on my monitor. It's still there in bios.
I'm guessing that means that either my display cable or monitor are fucked
>Pic related
>Dell S2340L
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>>73100112
When I was putting my GPU into the motherboard the first time the clip thing on one side snapped. I must have not put the clip into the right position for doing it first. It's annoying but the GPU ran fine. I'm only worried about it one day just falling out catastrophically but I highly doubt it will.
The CPU I fucked up at a later date because I didn't realise it would, or could, pull out the CPU along with the AMD fan with its really awkward hook method. As far as I can see no CPU pins came off in the motherboard socket. I'm only praying I don't have to try removing a second fan (noctua this time) from a second CPU, and add the expense of a second motherboard on top of a second CPU. I already overspent on the build, the only way it could get worse is if the GPU breaks, and at that point I'm just accepting it was cursed.
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>>73100153
yikes
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>>73098928
most AIO solutions are made by asetek, so it should drop right in. There will probably be a custom bracket to mount the block/pump on your card now so save that but that should be swappable to any other asetek pump.
https://www.asetek.com/gaming/technology-for-gamingdiy/gpu-cooling
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2F4cf9

Generic Build it seems, but wanted opinions.
Budget is 1k, mostly just want to be able to run every game at 120fps at like. 1600x900
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>>73100206
As long as your GPU is screwed in properly the thing won't just fall out. As for the CPU, if you use the supplied noctua paste it shouldn't have your processor stick to your cooler like AMD's stock paste. Apparently it's a common thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi1cOQhevqE
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>>73098185
>I hope they start making AMD cards in the future,
That's like asking XFX to make Nvidia cards again
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>>73100112
Wow really so even audio, usb and lan drivers aren't that useful I never knew that thanks. Only the gpu is the most important then.
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>>73100220
Anything more than yikes?
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I want a good monitor with Gsync/freesync.
But there are more freesync monitors that Gsync, and the one I really want is with freesync.
So the question is - how is AMD doing in terms of videocards and drivers to them?
Is it true that Intel cpu+AMD gpu is a bad idea?
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>>73099999
holy shit checked
thank you for replying to my post mister fugging QUINTS, i am truly blessed
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>>73100298
Yeah, it being a common mistake doesn't make me feel any better though.
I have the noctua cooler, waiting for the CPU, and the instructions for installation seem far more sensible than screwing around (pun not intended) with hook latches instead of screwdrivers.
Fingers crossed when the new CPU comes it works as if nothing had happened.
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>>73100321
nope, it looks fucked mate
i guess you can try a different cable but to me it looks like a monitor defect
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>>73093259
Budget is around 600

Already have SSD and HDD, Case and Monitor (1080p 1900x)

Is it possible to make a gaming AMD build with a 8GB GPU and 16gb of ram and stay on budget?
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>>73100112
I forgot to ask you about the chipset drivers is that important or does windows install it too?
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>>73100416
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=49wccf
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>>73100397
Nah it's a monitor defect, just connected my laptop to it. Same green tint in the same area.
On that note anyone got any recommendations for a 24' monitor?
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Lads. what can you tell me about the MSI mag271cqr? I've wanted to buy a 144 hz/1440p monitor for a while now but i do not know which one has the best value. Any recommendations in similar price range? Just in case this is my current build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t8RC29.
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>>73100525
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mpg27cq
Its fine. Its high end LCD cancer, but we won't get past LCD cancer for another few decades.
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>>73100254
You'll run everything just fine at 1080p. You didn't post any drives, not sure if you don't need or forgot but I threw one in there just in case and changed to amazon shipping since you'll order everything from there most likely. I also changed the case since the H510 is newer and cheaper, but essentially the same case.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTFzyk
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This looks better than most modern cases. Why don't they make it anymore? I'm sure it would sell.
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>MSI just released ABBA BIOS updates for x470 boards
So, is it worth updating? Obviously been on AB for the longest time, but each consecutive update to the BIOS just fucks with my 3700X, sometimes less and sometimes more.

Just wondering is ABBA will help remedy some of the retarded maximum boost behavior, such as boosting when opening shit like MS Paint.
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>>73100561
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2F4cf9
I was planning on just buying a HDD from Ebay so it was cheaper. I already have 2 SSDs so
But thanks for the case change, didnt know they did a newer and cheaper one
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>>73093259
RX 590 Red Devil or 580?
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>>73100679
580 because less housefire, but I would wait for the launch of the RX 5500
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should i upgrade?
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>>73100766
Hello no, if you're just gaming. 2600 is basically the same as an i7 4770
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>>73100817
so if i would slap on a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 would that be worth the upgrade or should i just sit tight for now?
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>>73100766
>That DDR3 RAM speed.

If I were you I'd go for the 3600 and then OC that and it's basically a 3600x.
It's only 30€ more than that 2600x, but it's fast enough to make the upgrade noticeable.
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>>73100912 yeah i cheaped out on ram when my PSU died and took the GPU with it
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>>73100679
5500 are imminent. They'll fall somewhere between 580 and 590 in performance, but you get navi which is way more power efficient and somewhat more future-proof than polaris (2 generations old).
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best ssd for a laptop thats almost always on and doing stuff?
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Is Gsync a meme??? I'm buying a RTX 2060 and figured may as well update the monitor as well. Is it worth it getting a g sync monitor or one of the freesync monitors you can use with gsync/Nvidia cards??
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>>73099706
>There's no way the thermal paste alone can make this much difference, right?
Usually yes. Thermal paste can make 5, maybe 10, maybe in worst to best case scenario 15C, but 20C? That's really pushing past any limits of what a thermal paste is supposed to do.
Realistically you should have taken pictures of the paste job after taking off the cooler.

>>73099721
this is false, it's really good coolers that can be bottlenecked by shit paste.
Shit coolers are not bottlenecked by shit paste.

>>73099784
The hotter the componenent, and the better the cooler, the more important paste becomes.
If you have a stock intel cooler, no paste in the world even liquid metal would make a difference.
On the otherhand if you have a watercooler with 3 fans or something, then the heat transfer between the heatsink and heat source become more of a factor.
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>>73099785
>In your opinion, what's a good brand of thermal paste?
For most people MX-4, Nocuta NT-H1, GD900.
For high performance people, liquid metal.
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>>73099785
>I've heard that Kryonaut scratches surfaces it's applied to.
Kryonaut and IC diamond both scratch shit up. Other pastes as far as I know are fine in terms of scratching.

Artic silver is not bad as I know, but it has quite a long cure time, like 200 hours by their offical statement. So you don't get optimal cooling until after many heat cycles.
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Looking to get into pc building, what would you estimate it would cost to run a game like Total War Wahammer 2 at high settings+the cost of peripherals
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>>73101122
depends on what resolution you want, 1080p/1440p/4k, 60/120/144/165hz refresh
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>>73101139
Not that anon, but 1080p, 144hz?
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Is a Samsung 970 EVO worth considering, or should I only go with Sabrent?
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>>73100109
>stars literally disappear when you rotate on VA
wew
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>>73093259
>i5 9400f cpu (stock intel cooler)
>gtx 1080 8gb gpu
>2 tb HDD
>480 SSD
>16 gb 2400mhz Ram
>b360m mobo
>RAIDMAX Monster II casing (3 fans).
>Dell SE2717HSC1 27" LCD screen
>win 10 pro
>1100 usd
uses : gaming / surfing the web.

just bought all this,going to turn it on tomorrow,how much fps can i expect for 1080p gaming ? +60 fps ?
also why are 144hz monitors expensive ?
no bait but this is my first time posting here,thanks in advance for tips !
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What's the comfiest case/lights? Something that would look soothing in the dark. Or perhaps a case/software combo?
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I have no idea what motherboard to get with my 3600. I want something that comes with out-of-the-box support for the 3000 series but all the decent X570 options seem crazy expensive and the Tomahawk MAX is impossible to get a hold of.
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>>73100112
the heatsink still has a little bit of wiggle, like i can push it down into its proper pace but it pops back up ever so slightly, am I still ok? gonna be running a 3700x with it
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>>73101266
everything is brand new aside from the gpu,is there anyway to know if it was used for mining ?
the store clerck wich i brought it from stress tested it and benchmarked it using some unity software,it averaged 60 fps on max resolution/144hz.
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Found someone selling a used r9 270x for $38USD incl shipping, good deal or nah?

just want a gpu to swap out with my current one to see if it's my current gpu having coil whine, and to have something to use while I RMA my current gpu if it turns out to be the problem.

I don't have integrated graphics so can't just pull the gpu out to see.
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How much can I sell a 1060? The top tier MSI one
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>>73101164
Well this image is a bit misleading since it has a 2080Ti paired with each CPU, but for 1080p I'd say 3600 with a 2060 or 5700 to guarantee over 100fps
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>>73100817
can you show this graph but with 2070super?
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>>73101054
The paste job did seem just fine when I removed the cooler.
Had full coverage and everything. That particular Alphacool paste has 2 stars on Amazon though, pic related.
Since it's fine in tests I guess there are some quality control problems with that XPX-1 brand.
But if it's actually possible to pull that 10-15C improvement with paste alone then I guess that's the answer, rather than a big fuckup when applying it.
Honestly I thought the temp differences would be only like 6C between best or worst pastes.
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>>73100987
crucial mx500, sabrent rocket if it has an m.2 slot and supports nvme
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Is it a good idea to sell my 1080 ti s and buy a 5700 XT?
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>>73101544
Technically you can at gameGPU, but the results are probably synthetic. In general, you can look at the framerate that a 2070 Super would provide, and if that's below the CPU you want, you're good

>>73100910
With a 60Hz monitor there's no point
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>>73100361
pls respond
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>>73101401
>r9 270x
$38 for something to keep your PC running is fine, dont expect to play games on anything but low but you should be ok
>>73101269
H500/H510 with a purple theme looks really nice at night, see pic
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>>73101804
Yeah i'm just gonna be using it to keep it going and play simple games like modded minecraft.
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>>73101794
>he doesn't know
Freesync work on Nvidiot cards now (from the 1xxx series of gpus), although it's a case by case basis and there may be some issues, for the most part it works, most reviews will talk about the compatibility
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>>73100361
>>73101794
freesync/gsync isnt that much of a deal breaker anymore since some freesync models are certified to run on nvidia cards, and most will work to a certain degree. Drivers are another story, just go through the last few generals and you'll see AMD has ways to go to get their drivers working as trouble free as nvidia.
>>73101773
1080ti still performs better than the 5700XT in most benchmarks, your only upgrade path for now is a 2080S or Ti
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>>73100361
>how is AMD doing in terms of videocards and drivers to them?
significantly better than previous gpus, although still had problems at launch

gsync and freesync won't matter that much with any gpu except at lower framerates
>Is it true that Intel cpu+AMD gpu is a bad idea?
no
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>Freesync on Nvidia
I'm also seeing a ton of people saying they have flickering issues though
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>>73101340
is $200 too much? I just got a 3600 and a ASUS X570 plus.
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is there a point in updating bios if "it just works" so far ?
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>>73101804
>Ruining your cases negative airflow design with front fans
What are your gpu temps under load anon
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>>73101006
If possible go "G-sync compatible" so that you're not locked to one vendor. If you get a good deal on a used G sync monitor or if you're looking for a high end monitor, it might be worth it.

>>73101122
Maybe $700 or less for something great at that game

>>73101401
Is what it is, I don't think you can get a dedicated graphics card for much cheaper than $20 (e.g., GT 710)

>>73101910
Always check reviews

>>73101982
Nope
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>>73102041
>check reviews
Reviews are fucking useless, they don't actually test this shit. They say it just work but then you see actual buyers having issues.
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Planning on draining someones custom loop and replacing the coolant with my piss. Their case doesn't have a tempered glass/plastic window. How long will it take the piss to destroy the loop?
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>>73101804
Keyboard? Mouse? Monitor?
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I know this build looks like blatant trolling but hear me out.
I want to create a tower that three users can use at once for lan parties and low intensity games (e.g. overwatch). Is there a better approach for this? Any suggestions? https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/PinPlab/saved/xHvGcf
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Nobody sane should buy the 5000 series from AMD, the 6000s will all have hardware raytracing.
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>>73102205
>>73102205
>>73102205
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>>73102031
not my pc, I just pulled that photo off pcpartspicker from finished builds
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>>73102163
The playstation 5 (with hardware raytracing by amd) will be november next year. That's 12 months away.
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>>73102087
honestly you're better off having everyone make a SFF pc so they're easier to lug around over one massive pc you're all centered around.
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>>73102299
is this viable at €400 a person? what kind of performance should i expect at that price range
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>>73101266
>9400F
>Intel stock cooler
Congrats on getting memed
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>>73102062
TFTcentral, pcmonitors.info, rtings, in that order
User reviews
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>>73102482
Thanks
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>>73101773
Better wait for fat navi.
5700 is midend. The high end isn't there yet.
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>>73093394
>>73093443
>And didn't get answers.
Are you trolling?
You were told zen2 Threadripper and 2x Titan RTX or a Quadro RTX 8000.

You insisted on getting a low end Intel CPU and now posted the bait again.



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