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>Gets completely and utterly BTFO in literally every single benchmark
Why should I switch to Ryzen again?
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because amd good guys intel bad guys
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>>71841687
>Trusting anything this lying autist shill shits out
Haha nice
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amd profits go to toilets in india
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>1080p medium
Thanks Goldstein!

Sage
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>>71841687
>OC performs worse than stock

amazing
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>>71841724
That's how CPU benchmarks are supposed to work you mouthbreathing fuck, you take the load off the GPU so the CPU can actually works its ass a bit.
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>>71841687
>Why should I switch to Ryzen again?
because ur poor
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>lose 4% in gaymes
>gain 50% more cores for everything else
>better upgrade path
>don't have to buy a shekelboard for overclocking support

I'll take it.

>>71841751
If you leave it stock it'll boost higher on a few cores than you can get on a stable all-core OC. Overclocking Zen 2 for anything that isn't heavily multithreaded is usually a hindrance.
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>>71841788
>>don't have to buy a shekelboard for overclocking support
Pretty rich when you take a look at the X570 mobo prices.
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>>71841687
>1080 medium
nice try shlomo
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>>71841810
If you don't care about PCIE4.0, why would you get x570? Plenty of B450 and X470 boards that'll handle anything from Ryzen 3.
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>>71841758
Come back when you have a benchmark that says something about current or future performance. This does neither.
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>>71841788
daily reminder that you are seeing gaymen benchmarks run on the M$ W*ndows OS whose CPU scheduler is literally poo-in-loo tier
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>>71841687
Because you don't have a 2080 Ti and you don't gayme in 1080p
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>>71841687
>1080p
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>>71841876
I like how they supposedly fixed it but you get noticeable FPS gains in many games by disabling hyperthreading.
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>>71841758
Why do Inturds shit on "synthetic" benchmarks like Cinebench when all they post are unrealistic low graphics 2080 Ti benchmarks? Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
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>>71841930
>implying you don't buy a 2080 Ti to play on medium settings @ 1080p
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>>71841930
Cinebench is not synthetic because rendering tests are not synthetic.
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Ryzen 3 is DOA
The platform only has 6 more months in it
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>>71841788
World War Z and Metro Exodus are AMD-sponsored games...and 9th gen Intel just destroys it
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wtf is this whea errors shit i'm hearing about. problems with nvidia cards but also radeon with zen 2.
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>>71842194
They're more Radeon sponsored than AMD sponsored, the GPUs perform above expectations.
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>>71841687
>Why should I switch to Ryzen again?
I really dont get it. It's the same "in few years games will use threads" etc that has been the mantra for the 10 years now.
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>>71842194
>Metro Exodus are AMD-sponsored game
are you actually retarded?
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>>71841687
>3700x versus 9900k
>3700x is 17% slower on average
>3700x is smoother (better minimum FPS)
>9900k has no heatsink cooler in the box (just the CPU despite the fancy packaging)
>9900k requires that you purchase a good heatsink cooler to avoid thermal throttling
>9900k is 47% more expensive
Intel Corporation is dead.
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the 3700x and 9700k are both $330 at microcenter
i'm beginning to question my 3700x purchase.
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>>71842461
oh shit, thanks for telling anon. Driving there right now to buy a 9700k
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damage control is a bit late to the race i see
the processor came out last sunday
and its flying off the shelves

looks like you might need to look for another job pajeet
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>>71841826
that gn faggoy always tested at high settings until zen 2, now it's medium. medium geometry, less draw calls. what a faggot.
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>>71842461
>>71842476
Look at the video. The 3700X is behind in every single game at every single settings.
No reason to buy Ryzen if you're a gaymur.
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nooOoOOoo buy intel
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>>71841687
>2080ti
>1080p
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Why would you play at 1080p in 2019
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>gamers
review discarded
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>>71841687
You shouldn't. What are you, some racist anti-semitic homophobe?
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>>71842483
Yeah it sucks. I thought I could get a cheap 2600 now that 3000 is the new craze but the prices are still the same. Buy more Intel you sloppy cunts, I want a cheap 2600.
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>>71841687
>he thinks average is more important than lows
>1080p medium
>2080ti
yikes
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>>71842557
144Hz monitor you fucking retard
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>>71841687

Don't switch. Nobody asked or even cared about you.
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>tfw been hearing Intel and Nvidia are finished since 2006

You guys never learn.
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>>71841810

You must be used to Intel.

Zen2 works on everything from b350 to x570.

Unlike intels a socket a year mentality.
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you should commit suicide and encourage all your fellow /v/ermin to do the same
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>>71842624
The pic says nothing about 144Hz. In fact
>medium
most likely it was locked to 60Hz.
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>>71842636
Face it, in any real setup a 9900k won't be better than a fucking 2700x because games are much more dependent on GPUs.
Practically, AMD CPUs provide better game experience because they don't choke themselves when something's running in the background.
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>goymers nexus

Will never watch this fat shill again. Get out.
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>AMD using slow preset is MISLEADING! Its not practical or realistic!
>*benches 1080p medium with a 2080ti*

(((Steve Burke))) is not to be trusted.
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>>71841841
>implying pcie4 wont work on some older motherboards
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-3000-asus-opens-up-pcie-4-support-for-selected-x470-and-b450-boards.html

As for op, believing anything that comes of gn when guy tests intels with mce on and 3200mhz ram as "stock" while not turning on pbo and refusing to run with amd supplied ram or ignoring bios version he should bench the cpu with... you have to be retarded. I totally expect the guy to change "methodology" to 720p low for ryzen 4000s. :)
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>>71841788
>completely and utterly BTFO
>4% behind on a cherry picked shill test, on a meme resolution you wont play on anyway
>we know from kabylake that Intels minimal advantage will disappear in a year or two as game studios learn to utilize more cores
>meanwhile 3900x completely annihilates the 9900k, often with 1-200% in productivity workloads
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>>71842900
> Intels minimal advantage will disappear in a year or two as game studios learn to utilize more cores
Don't forget the new vulnerabilities to be patched along the way
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>>71841687
Listen, the 9700K is still the best bang for your buck if all you care about is high end gaming. However:
>9700K is $370
>3700X is $329
>In this particular benchmark, 9700K is 16.8% percent faster while being 12% more expensive.
The price/performance of the 9700K isn't that much higher even in exclusively gaming situations. At that point, even if all you care about is gaming, trading off superior application performance (Blender, compression/decompression, Premiere, encoding) for slightly higher gaming performance feels like a waste to me.
Also if you wanna buy a Ryzen for gaming you should be looking at the 3600, since it has near identical performance to the 3700x. In that case, the gaming price/performance argument is a lot easier for AMD
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>>71842920
But it's 1080p on a 2080 Ti running a garbage game
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>>71842920
>>71842461
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>>71842920
No it isnt. The 3700x is better and comes with a cooler and will age better. At high end gaming (not 720p on low) it will be fantastic
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>>71842811
>when guy tests intels with mce on and 3200mhz ram as "stock" while not turning on pbo and refusing to run with amd supplied ram or ignoring bios version he should bench the cpu with... you have to be retarded

He did what? That hippie fuck lost what credibility he had left after the OBS x264 thing.
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AMD fans truly are reprehensible and contemptible. Not even worthy of a spit on the face.
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>>71842811
Who can you even trust anymore. Toms Hardware ran their review with a bad bios revision. The only thing you can do nowadays is look at all the reviews as a whole and disregard the outliers.
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>video games
post a real benchmark about something not made for children
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>>71842960
Coreteks seems good but hes new to reviews. His 3700 review was honest
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>>71842932
I'm not arguing it's not a great product.
You're right I didn't account for the price of the cooler in the 9700K. Assuming a $40 CPU cooler, the 9700K is 16.8% faster while being 24% more expensive.
Also forgot to mention other added perks like the fact that you can run a 3700X on a B350 board with mostly no issues (https://youtu.be/oRaZ2Txv13M)
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>>71842980
>16.8 percent faster

Does this translate to where it actually matters? Like 1080p good settings or especially 1440p? From what I see it does not.
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Just a reminder buy 3600 and not 3700x/3800x/3900x if you are just looking for gaming.
Any card other than 2080Ti or maybe 2080 and super will end up in a GPU bottleneck so if you are looking to play at 1080p or 1440p don't pay more.
Inb4 I own 2080Ti then just get 9900k because you have already invested so much in a card you should pay premium for CPU too.
In future companies will be moving to vulkan so CPU requirement isn't going to be so high like it is nowadays.
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>>71842929
If you're lucky enough to find a 9700K at that price point and all you care about is gaming then it's pretty much not even a contest.
But it's hard to find it at that price as of now.
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>>71841687
>overclocked CPU are better then non overclocked CPU
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>>71843000
It doesn't. Most of these benchmarks exhibit artificial scenarios (720P low on a 9700K rig?) for the sake of CPU bottlenecking. For most intents and purposes, many of these CPUs will perform very similarly as you'll most likely be GPU bound rather than CPU bound (as long as you pair your CPU with a sensible GPU)
This is still the best way of testing, because it's the only way to know which CPU is best, even if you won't notice it in real life scenarios.
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>>71843050
I dont get why they even put their golden sample overclocks on the chart

At this point even linus cuck tipps makes better benchmarks
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>>71843060
But you can just as easily say that the 3700k will far outlast the 9700k in real life scenarios because of its far greater capability. Buying a 9700k when it exceeds only in one pointless area seems silly.
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>>71842159
OK but AMD outperforms Intel in Cinebench, so it can't be a "real" benchmark.
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>>71843076
I mean, I personally agree, but it ultimately comes down to how much you care about gaming vs. how much you care about professional applications
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>>71842960
>Who can you even trust anymore
The Aussies from HardwareUnboxed?
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>>71842960
Boomer from tech deals is legit.
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>>71842773
>>71842786
>yes I own stocks in AMD, no I don't see a conflict of interest
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>>71842811
>>71842936
>>71842960
Got any proof of anything? Because you amd shills are doing a lot smear campaigns right now but don't provide any proof other than your own words and insults.
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>giving fuck about CPU perf in a gpu bottlenecked game with shit optimisation
Wait for the vulkan and dx12 port
Dx11 doesn't always play nice with Zen
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Intel macacos out in full force kek
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Friendly reminder cat owners are mentally ill.
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>>71841687
>>71841788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssuqhyqah2k
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>>71843533
I'm a cat owner and I dont like Steve. Also Lovecraft was a catman
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>>71842461
Microcenter is GOD-Tier for CPUs and their combo deals. I pitty all the retards that don't live near one. Intel is still shit for security though and costs more if you don't already have a cooler, which will run you another hundred plus.
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>>71841687
>gayming
Post the blender, x265, x264 and compiling benchmarks anon.
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>>71843918
Why do you want him to post about 3 things you don't use your computer for?
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>>71842917
This. ZombieLoad patches aren't even out yet.
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>1080p
>medium
kek. The only graphical settings intel can actually compete in
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>>71843933
I encode using x264 almost every day you tard, I filter the video on vapoursynth and encode it with x264.
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>>71841788
>better upgrade path
Is it better? I thought the next CPU generation from AMD was going to be AM5 or some other new socket.
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>>71843969
That's what I said, you only do 1 of the 4 things you mentioned
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>>71843986
Yeah but is still a valid reason to buy a cpu and according to >>71842965 a 330US$ AMD CPU BTFOs a 500US$ Intel CPU.
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>>71843968
This
I fully understand you are trying to CPU bound a game to see which one is better but the results are completely fucking moot when it's done at settings that no one in there right mine would play in
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>>71843950
Zombieload patch wont affect games. Itll impact heavy i/o and threadswapping. Games load a load every once in a while and use threadpools because the volume of work is relatively well known.
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>w*ndows benchmarks
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-3700x-3900x-linux&num=1
intcel btfo
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>>71843983
They claimed AM4 until 2020, so I'm expecting a 7nm refresh at the very least before they move to 5nm/DDR5 or something like that.

Even ignoring that, you could still drop a 3950x in.
>>71844024
>>71843950

You'll probably see a few percent in some standout CPU bound games like Witcher 3, but the impact should be minimal.
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>>71844230
>They claimed AM4 until 2020
I know, but I'm afraid "2020" only means Zen 2 APUs which will not come out this year. Getting a refresh for the proper CPU lineup would be nice.
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>>71843533
There is a key difference here you are missing. Perhaps intentionally.
You realise that 10000Kbits/s is not the only setting right?
For instance 10000Kbits at Fast preset or at slow preset is not the same thing?
Right you realize this right?

I mean even if you knew NOTHING about this subject, youd look at this image here >>71843533
and see that the 7700k is encoding 62% of frames, a fucking 4 core 8 thread.

NOW if you think that the shit you found is the same compared to the current SLOW PRESET and 10 000kbits settings, ask yourself, why is intels 8 core, 16 thread CPU suddenly encoding 2% of the frames.

HMM, GE I wonder why indeed.

It honestly pains me that there is retards/shills like you out there grasping at straws, trying to do what is essentially a smear campagin and why, because he dared to point out misleading shit AMD was doing?
IF he did the same thing for any other company you'd be praising him and calling him based.
Fucking biased assholes.
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>>71843533
>>71843579
>>71844430
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>>71844430
Cool story, definitely gonna buy Intel CPU, thanks intel marke- I mean anon.
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>>71844596
>giving out free $10 coupons
based intel
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>>71844634
Nice shitposting to divert attention. But you have been caught numerous times, don't think you can freely shill here.
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>>71841876
ah yeah because those games would run much better on Linu-
oh wait.....
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>>71843415
>t. just for shitposting here, didnt watch any of guys videos
well, I dont blame you, guy is dumb, but why insult other anons over stuff he admitted himself or you can obviously see in his graphs then?

>>71843024
oced 9600k is already stuttering in some games, same fate awaits 9700k in two years, 3700x will last much longer and you will be able to put 4950x 16/32 core with top of the line pcie4 gpu along with 5GB/s ssd in (if you wish)
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>>71844843
Your shilling is in vain gaymernexus faggot shill.
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>>71841687
performance/price
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>>71841687
>stock 3900X never dropped below 84.2 fps
O O F
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The only reason anyone will use AMD over Intel is because Intel is owned by Jews. For some it is a good enough reason, but that depends on you
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>>71846000
Please don't be too harsh on corelets. Intel CPUs are constantly struggling to not choke themselves, their lives are already hard enough.
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>>71845153
>oced 9600k is already stuttering in some games
what are you talking about gaming it largely GPU bottlenecked. Any processor stuttering specific to the 9600k is happening at some ancient resolution and is like 20fps drop at 120fps at worst.
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>>71841687
Intel= High refresh gaming
AMD=Anything else

Now, they discovered some nasty shit on Intel CPU's but that doesn't mean AMD is 100% secure, they haven't found vulnerabilities because like it or not Intel was the mayor player on most fields, now when AMD gets the throne they are gonna get analyzed as much as Intel and they are gonna find something for them in the meantime, but right now AMD has a very appealing lineup for gaming and for productivity and you are "secure" somehow even tho the NSA spies on us whatever hardware we use so get was cheaper for you unless you are doing 144hz gaming of course go intel.
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>>71847221
>Intel= High refresh gaming
With 2080ti in 1080p medium.
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>>71847274
Some people prefer the frames instead of the graphics quality, and believe or not there is a market for people like that.
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>>71841715
>>71841724
>>71841826
>>71841893
>>71842557
>>71843533
>>71842773
>>71842786
Basically this
>HIGH QUALITY STREAMING IS MISLEADING
>but 2080ti with golden sample delidded 9900k at 5.2GHz with the biggest watercooler is definitely realistic since a lot of people do this right?
That faggot is an absolute faggot kike
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>>71846000
Even the stock 3700X has better 0.1% than a 5.1GHz 9900K.
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>>71841687
>can barely beat the 9600, a 150 dollar cpu
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>>71841687
>not buying a super cheap Ryzen 5 1600

It's like you don't even /performance per dollar/
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If you're a gaymer, the 3600 makes sense at its price point because it has better frametimes than the i5 despite having a slight fps decrease, that means significantly smoother gameplay.

Basically the best gaming CPUs are 3600, 9700K and 9900K at their price points.

If you do actual work, then the Ryzens are superior at their price points, if you're a casual streamer then the Ryzen is also superior.

If you have a 144Hz or a 240Hz display, it's worth getting a 9700K or 9900K to squeeze every last frame.

Personally I'm planning on building a 3600 system because it's really good value for money and I do a bit of production work on my PC.
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>>71844532
Fat fuck Steve didnt list the preset you retarded shill. Kill yourself he's MORE misleading than AMD.
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High refresh gaming doesn't matter guys.
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>>71850509
>still tries to damage control when your shit tactics are exposed for everybody to see
You know self denial does nothing to convince others, right?
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>>71848708
>that means significantly smoother gameplay

Nah not really bro.
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>>71850594
>no argument

Just fuck off Steve you egotistical bastard. Anyone with a brain knows what a joke you are now. You misleading cunt.

Go back to benching games on 1080p medium and a 2080ti. That certainly is practical and not at all misleading right? People do that all the time!
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>>71850613
Most gamers prefer high refresh rates you utter and absolute fucked up mong.
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>>71841687
Nice house fire stutter fest.
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>>71850626
>1080p medium
>2080ti

Youre an absolute fucking mong pretending like that is what high refresh players with a 2080 fucking ti play on. Piss off. Also it isnt even competitive games most of the time its shit like gta. Give it up Steve.
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>>71850652
If you want to hit 144 Hz or 240 Hz (most monitors today are 240 Hz) you're going to need a 2080ti, you'll have to drop all your settings to low and you're going to have to play at 1080p. I know this pisses you off because you bought a Ryzen and you'll never get to experience high refresh rates but this is what people do.
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>>71850679
>most monitors today are 240 Hz
lmao
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>>71850679
And no ONE does that you retard. People will put up with 100-120 vs 144 if it means settings that dont look like playdo

>most monitors are 240hz

The lying fat fuck shill strikes again.
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Real world tests would be 1440/ultra or 4k. A miracle they moved on from 720p low benching lol
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>>71850699
>>71850713

https://prosettings.net/cs-go-pro-settings-gear-list/
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>>71841788
>gain 50% more cores for everything else
enjoy unzipping those files
>better upgrade path
am4 is dead bro. new mobo with new socket for zen 3 and there probably won't be a zen2 refresh, or is there is one it will be on am5.
>don't have to buy a shekelboard for overclocking support
zen 2 doesn't OC, I'm sure you will say that's a good thing because intel gave people the max 4ghz ootb.

>>71845153
>same fate awaits 9700k in two years, 3700x will last much longer
>an 8 core is going to fall behind another 8 core that clocks much lower just because it has SMT which actually lowers game performance

stop deluding yourself
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>>71850613
>>no argument
The argument is here >>71844532
Good luck shitposting enough to make people forget that you got exposed and BTFO.
Then again based on your responses, I'd guess you are an automated bot.
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>>71850723
You fucking IDIOT. WE ARENT TALKING ABOUT PRO PLAYERS PLAYING CSGIT I ALREADY MENTIONED THIS
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>>71850744
>having your channel raided by an army of coping AMDrones means you got exposed

Damn son
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>>71841876
>performance will get patched in!

lmao
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>>71850745
>competitive gaming doesn't matter

All right, add it to the list.
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>>71841687
At least it beats the 7700K in that one kek
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>>71841687
> conveniently didn't bench CS:GO and PUBG
typical Gay Men's Next Ass benchmarks.
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>>71850766
Even those pro players plenty use 144hz. You ignorant fool. And the average person isnt a pro gamer. Many whom play on 4:3 stretched and other hideous shit.

You dont need a 2080ti for pro csgo.
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>>71842415
9700k is just as much as a 3700x and can be cooled on a $40-50 cooler which you should already have you poorfag. it also performs better in more games than every CPU out except 9900k and even then it's usually a draw or something the 9700k is ahead. also most will hit 5ghz easy unlike zen which struggles past 4. zen can't even claim productivity because some are frequency bound.
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>>71850789
>dude just buy old technology that you'll need to replace later lol why would you want to buy the thing that most people are already switching to
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>>71850799
>old technology

I'm not the one telling people to buy Intel CPUs.
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>>71841687
>84 min fps on 3900X
BASED shitel pozzed stuttering housefires.
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>>71850807
I have to admit, you can probably unzip files faster than me.
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>>71850817
I'll admit you can probably burn your house down faster than me.
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>>71843902
>which will run you another hundred plus.
a macho will cool any consumer CPU including 9700k and it's $50:
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-814256001052-Macho-Rev-B/dp/B00PKJ21LW

I wouldn't use the stock for ryzen either because the noise is shit on anything but idle. a good cooler stays in the 20s db even on load.
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>>71850817
No I have a 6700k I'm just not retarded enough to recommend Intel now.
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>>71842612
it's cheap at mc, 2700x is $200 with mobo/card combos.
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>>71850826
ok motherfucker
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I'm buying a Ryzen for my next build. I don't care about high refresh rates I game at 50 fps and 95% of the time I just unzip files anyway.
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>gayming
Some of us actually work anon
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>>71841687
but its winning in those benchmarks.
it has much better 1% lows.
if you had actually watched the review would would understand that incel has shit stuttering issues. and that is why the r3000 is strongly recommended over i9
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>>71850838
Nice try kike.
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>>71842773
>>71847391
NOOOOOOOOOO AMD BROS, MY CHERRY PICKED BECHMARKS AREN'T STANDING UP YOU CAN'T HAVE INTEL PERFORMING LIKE IT DOES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME WITH A COOLER GIMPED RYZEN IS BETTER CAUSE IT COMES WITH ONE WE DONT NEED PERFORMANCE JUST LOTTERY BOOSTS! IM A (((((CREATOR)))) I SWEAR!
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>>71850878
Wow it runs so cool, I bet every laptop in the world has a Ryzen in it
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>>71850878
Source?
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>>71841687
Unless you like to fall for /g/'s meme.

Thank god, I didn't. AMD shills and shareholders BTFO as fuck.
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>>71850903
>cherry picked
>has to only pick ridiculous scenarios like 1080p medium with a 2080ti to "win".
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>>71851025
>high refresh gaming doens't matter
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>>71851051
>strawmanning too
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>overclocking doesn't matter
>high refresh gaming doesn't matter
>chipset fans don't matter
>latency doesn't matter
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if you pirate a lot of games decompressing times do matter
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>>71851060
You literally said that high refresh rate gaming is a "ridiculous scenario"
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>>71850732
>MULTICORE DOESN'T MATTER
>UPGRADING TO A 16 CORE CPU DOESN'T MATTER
>AM4 SUPPORT UNTIL 2020 DOESN'T MATTER
>LOCKING OFF OVERCLOCKING/HYPERTHREADING DOESN'T MATTER

Are you reading from a script? It's literally always the same.
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>>71851090
>1080p medium is required for high refresh 2080ti
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>Value doesn't matter
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>>71851119
He set it to medium and he can't even hit 144 Hz you literal mouthbreathing mong
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>>71851131
High refresh isnt limited to 144 you mong. Its not even a competitive game.
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>>71851102
Updated
>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!
>1771w cooler doesn't matter!
>Server space doesn't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>Free RAID doesn't matter!
>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!
>IPC doesn't matter!
>7nm doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>HEDT doesn't matter!
>Stock coolers don't matter!
>Security doesn't matter!
>Games don't always matter!
>Enterprise doesn't matter!
>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!
>VMware doesn't matter!
>MySQL doesn't matter!
>Unix doesn't matter!
>Linux doesn't matter!
>Wafer yields don't matter!
>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!
>Asian markets don't matter!
>Own fabrics don't matter!
>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!
>Cray doesn't matter!
>Cisco doesn't matter!
>HPE doesn't matter!
>AZURE doesn't matter!
>5nm doesn't matter!
>TDP doesn't matter!
>10nm doesn't matter!
>Cache doesn't matter!
>Integrated graphics doesn't matter!
>PCIE 4.0 doesn't matter!
>Mindfactory doesn't matter!
>Processors doesn't matter!
>Custom Foundry Business doesn't matter!
>Stock voltage doesn't matter!
>Framerate doesn't matter!
>Amazon sales don't matter!
>Prime95 AVX doesn't matter!
>Large corporations don't matter!
>Your DATA doesn't matter!
>Context switch duration doesn't matter!
>*NEW* 202x market outlooks don't matter!
>*NEW* VRM doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Single core performance doesn't always matter!
>*NEW* World records don't matter!
>*NEW* Socket support doesn't matter
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>>71841722
Intel's profits go to the JIDF.
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>>71851147
This. I'm playing at 60 fps and that's high enough for me. When you factor in how fast I'm able to unzip files it's a no brainer.

Buy Ryzen.
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>>71851124
Already on the list as "price/performance doesn't matter"
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>>71851177
More like 80 fps - 100 fps.

In non competitive games you can't expect 144hz from anything. Because of engine alone sometime
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>Caring about frame rate instead of frame times.
The absolute state of Intards.
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>>71850910
>what is image search
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>>71843023
Vulkan will have the same fate as OpenGL. Supported by id and two or three more companies.
DirectX is the mainstay because windows and xbox and PlayStation uses a proprietary graphics API.
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>>71851192
Exactly. You shouldn't play at 144 fps anyway because your eyes can't see that fast.

Pic related is an unzipping benchmark with Ryzen at 3,9 GHz. As you can see, it's faster than Intel.

Buy AMD
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>btfo in literally every benchmark
>posts one benchmark
ok nigger
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>>71851162
Saved
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>>71851192
shut up bitch
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>>71843023
>In future companies will be moving to vulkan so CPU requirement isn't going to be so high like it is nowadays.

Nobody is going to both using Vulkan. It's a trash API riddled with bugs, vendor specific oddities, and lack of portability.

For hobbyists opengl is perfectly fine and works almost everywhere, for professionals they can invest the time in developing for APIs that have real usability and good tooling (d3d12, gnmx, metal).
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>>71842773
>attacking a random jew who peacefully practices freedom of religion

are you not worse than the people you hate?
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>>71851230
What backwards worldline did I just step into where Photoshop is using >8 cores?
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>>71851279
>peacefully

Their religion requires them to mutilate infants. I'd rather see him hanging from a tree than kicked on the street. Kill yourself Abrahamic filth.
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>>71850609
Yes really, the i5 has frametime spikes that the 3600 does not have despite having higher average FPS.

Which sums it up at a tie at that price point for gaming. I don't know about you but stutter is more annoying to me and it's more noticeable than say a 5fps difference (typically unlocked FPS - no vsync and GPU bottlenecked at higher 1080p/1440p settings). But despite being a tie, I think the 3600 is superior at gaming just for the better frametime consistency anyway.

For production workloads the 3600 is just simply better, don't even need to explain this one.
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>>71851307
lol fag
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>>71851318
lol cope
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>>71851364
kill yourself you filthy rat.
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>>71851384
I think somebody needs a nap :)
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>my jewish processor is better than your jewish processor!
dilate, retards
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>>71851380
>present unbiased facts
>lol cope XD
When did this board turn into such shit?
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>>71851421
>present assblasted whining
>lol cope

lol cope
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>71851417
Feels good to defend the mutilation of infants does it? I can only hope someone ties you down and slits your throat. No (((you)))
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>just pay $300 extra for 15 fps plus a house fire goy!
LMAO the absolute state of these fags that are trying not to cry about buying that garbage 9900k
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>>71841687

Can someone explain to me why Steve ran SMT tests for both the 3600 and the 3900 which substantially improved gaming performance on both in some games and then completely ignored doing it for the 3700?
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>>71851567
Because hes a literally incompetent shill
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>>71851567
Hes not a very smart guy I remember him shilling his stupid mat while trying to show viewers how to sand down your cpu for better temps ignoring the fact that when you do that you don't want a soft surface you want a nice hard and flat one.
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>>71851581
HAHAHAHAHAHAH OH WOW


NOW YOU GUYS ARE TELLING ME YOUR tech jesus IS AN INTEL SHILL ????????????????????????????????????????????????

THE SAME GUY THAT HAS BEEN SHILLING ZEN AND VEGA FOR YEARS

KYS
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Bought the 3900X to encode some studio-tier work, not to play Ubishit games or any current gen games for that matter
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>>71851684
>studio tier
>posting a nigger

Y I k e s
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>>71851697
have sex
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>>71851697
>has a job
>not a faggot gaymer
kys
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>>71851788
>has a job
>buys AMD

pick one



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