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Whats the required IQ to be a programmer?
What about webdev?
What about embedded/MCs?
t. 125 brainlet having a though time with Python and sQL
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Tough time with the two easiest langauages to pick up? Oh boy
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JS and Python only require a double-digit IQ
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IQ means nothing compared to an absolute refusal to give up
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>125
>trouble with python
maybe you shouldn't rely on web quizzes to tell you how "smart" you are.
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>>71833238
Having trouble with Python and SQL? Sorry but you're sub 100, might as well change careers because it won't get any easier than this. It's ok, not everyone is cut out for it.
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>>71833260
This path is long and painful, but for some it's the only way. Best of luck if this is what you choose.
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It is not about IQ. Some can code, others not. It seems to be some way your brain is wired according to studies. I persnlonally think it relates a little to all the NPC study in how you (maybe abnormally) need to visualize things to be able to understand how code flows
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>>71833257
>JS
>promises
>asyncs
>bubble up vs capture down
>js.query
>Js frameworks
It's 110-120 at least
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>>71833238
IQ has nothing to do with it. Programming is about organisation and training yourself to approach problem solving in a structured way.
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>>71833238
About 80 should work. You are way too smart for that shit. Try something more intellectual - gender studies or altermodern art.
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>>71833238
bellow 115. More than that nobody except suhumans swallow with working for and with idiots for a bunch of peanuts. (((Refugees))) in Europe get aprox the same wage only for being nigger or brown.
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>>71833238
in the age of googling shit you can be brainlet and code shit
Every issue you will ever have has already been a'swered what coding will boil down to in the end is can you put other people's scripts together really
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I'm literally one of the dumbest fucks I know and I have no problem understanding Python and SQL. Maybe you're taking a fucking number too seriously, OP.
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>>71833238
who
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>>71833331
I've heard jordan peterson say you need an iq of at least 90 to understand and follow written instructions
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>>71833396
t. junior koder
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>>71833238
Read a book on logic first. I started with logic book first and foremost before I even knew how to program. Logic helped shaped my mind into seeing how to organize my thoughts/arguments. It will help you immensely in shaping your code.
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troll thread
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>>71833453
same
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>>71833238
>Whats the required IQ to be a programmer
I don't know, what I do know is that by posting that thot you have proven that you don't have the minimum required IQ.
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>>71833618
She is an artistic brazilian female artist with interests in manga and anime.
Pls respect her
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>>71833238
>having a though time with Python and sQL
you are not nowhere near 125
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About 90, exceptions being made for women and trannies
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>>71833453
Man, but you know...
You have those complex queries in SQL... them generators...
I get frustrated too esily.
I sometimes pinch my keyboard and become angry when the logic is not clear.

I dont have a job, maybe in a working environment you have to deal with pressure
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>>71834010
My point is .. I understand small chunks.
When functions depend on functions with varied names that depend on classes and selfs... ugggghhhhh
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>>71833314
>js.query
please let it die
js is indeed more difficult compared to python, but not in a good way
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>>71833238
>t. 125
>saving pictures of underage goths and otherwise mentally ill girls.

you're not fooling anyone.
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The ideal IQ is much higher than that of a retarded waifuposter (i.e. you).
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BEGONE THOT!
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>>71833238
100. Literally anyone can program. It's not cognitively challenging 90% of the time.
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>>71834037
much of it is just practice like every craft
start small and in time will understand more and more
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>>71833238
web development (language-less) = 80 - 100 (i know literal high school dropouts who have "tech lead" careers in web development)
scripting language = 100 - 110
general-purpose language = 110 - 120
close-to-the-machine languages = 120 - 130 (pointers seem to be the limit for most otherwise competent programers)
130 - 140: esoteric languages. lisp family, specialised functional/object-oriented languages
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>>71834010
>>71833981
>>71833238
sauce pls
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how is python difficult lmao
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>>71834044
Very high concurrency by virtue of being the scripting language that runs the web indeed adds a lot of complexity, but I'm glad that it is now very painfree to deal with with modern JS
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>>71833238
IQ is bullshit, man. First steps in programming are hard for every one, just don't give up and always be sure that you are capable of doing it. If some other human bean done it, you will make it too.
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>>71834083
Liwi.g aka kelly nazario
She lives in the worst part of Brazil but managed to develop a patrician weaboo sensibility
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>>71833238
sql is nothing don't bother with sql
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>>71834079
>he thinks graduating highschool/college is an accurate representation of intelligence
never gonna make it

>lisp: 140
gee I wonder which language is your favorite
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>>71833238
IQ is a measurent of intelligence for toddlers.
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>>71833238
Drive is far more important than IQ.
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>>71833238
imagine falling for the IQ meme

if you're struggling with a toy language like python you're definitely not smart enough to write code
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>>71834160
>worst
Where?
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>>71833238
does she still post on that other website or has that other website truly been shut down? I won't even visit there desu
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>>71834079
hahahahahaha
aaaaaaaaahahahahhaha

fucking faggot
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>>71834179
Sql is the most used forth-generation programming language.
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>>71833238
If you're having issues with picking up programming, you're probablly better off taking a logic 101 course, even if it's just Kahn Academy you tube videos, then go back to programming.
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>>71833238
I wish she was my gf. Or I was her.
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>>71833238
Sorry to tell you this buy you failed at the very start by assuming that IQ is a definite, fixed number.
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>>71833238
I want to rip that nose ring right out of her face
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>>71833470
lywi.gr
>>71834981
Can you imagine her face after an MRI?
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>>71835020
>Can you imagine her face after an MRI?
they don't actually do that much to a piercing, unfortunately
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>>71833320
Of course IQ matters, why do you think comp science has a fucking huge drop out rate
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>>71833238
doesn't matter, just dont be a retard and have friends
networking > everything else
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>>71835397
Because kids underestimate both the work it takes and their own capacities to understand new material. Also, many people drawn to the paycheck with no love for computer science drop out too if they find they can't work hard enough.
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>>71834211
it's actually C but whatever pal
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>>71833238
>tough time with Python
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>>71833269
i don't know about sql. I am not a master programmer, but i can program opengl with c or c++. sdl however makes me want to tear my hair out, i can do some simple querries, "give me the id of item bla bla with the biggest bla bla", but i can not do any more advanced stuff. Using sql feels more like fighting with syntax to me.
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>>71835698
I meant sql not sdl
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>>71833238
>125
>though time
Yeah, so how long did you spend on that free internet IQ test that's designed to hand out 130s like candy?
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>>71835511
M8 I've seen good friends drop out due to stress and outright lack of ability especially regards math. First half of first year saw out most of the people that weren't serious. But others, damn they got wiped out. Some work in IT others in sales. Don't understand estimate the IQ required to pass 4 years of comp sci especially compared to other non STEM subjects. I've seen people who's degrees required knowledge but not intelligence walk around like they're God's gift until they went job hunting
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>>71835740
What do you think a good iq for programming is? I am faily good at math and i scored 123 at an official iq test at school when i was 16. I wan't to do some low level stuff, working with microcontrollers, C, digital circuits that stuff. I don't see my self doing high level stuff like coding for some stupid web browser or desktop environment.
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>>71833320
>IQ has nothing to do with it.
of course it does you fool

all the things you said like problem solving ability correlate with iq
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>>71835810
lol wtf is that "wan't" typo i made..
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>>71833260
You need to put that shit on a T-shirt and sell it.
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>>71833260
Assuming you don't go into academia yea this is true. There though everyone has autism-backed obsessivness AND high IQ, you can't win
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>>71834270
Brazilian here, probably northeast.
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>>71835810
Wrong attitude. Do programming tutorials, follow and code along with them. If you enjoy this you are suited to it. People who find learning programming tedious are fucked.

Low level is great but don't knock high level languages, especially scripting- automating things is awesome and even the easiest to learn script language "powershell" is very powerful.

Basically programming should feel like problem solving with feelings of stress, defeat and elation after successfully getting something working. If you don't enjoy that other not for you regardless of IQ.
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IMO Op is learning the tools rather than problem solving, python is so basic but the way its taught is completely retarded, kinda like starting programming with c++ which leaves you crippled as a programmer unless you unlearn it.
Do something more basic like C# or a lisp
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>>71835914
I am the guy you replied to. I can program in lua and i am working on a small project in C. I am making a small 2d engine for sdl2, something that can handle entities, do some basic physics etc, i am working on this as a project to practice the C syntax i learned. I just don't see myself working on stuff like this till i am old. It's a fun project but i don't find it very interesting. My experience in javascript and html was horrible tough, i made a small chat room website for a school project, but i didn't enjoy it at all, there was no problem solving for me whatsoever. Anyway i haven't worked on anything low level yet but it looks very interesting to me, i just don't know it is something for 140+ iq geniuses who aced university.
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You want to be 130 to go to uni.
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>>71833238
>2019
> people still think IQ means being intelligent
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>>71833485
This is something I never really understood about IQ. Why isn't it a bell curve? 100 is average, 110 is common, but 90 is fairly rare? I thought this shit was scaled.
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>>71833314
>promises
>async
>bubble up vs capture down
>JS frameworks
But they're trivial. Seriously anon I'm not able to sympathize to this level. I feel we're too distant in the phylogenetic tree.
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>>71833238
>>71834103
Pretty much this, please don't take any advice from /g/. All of these anons will claim you have to have a super IQ to program only to boost their own self esteem. Literally any average person can learn even the more "advanced" programming concepts. And it's not about learning programming, but learning to solve actual problems with programming, many of which don't even remotely require a high IQ.

t. absolute brainlet that knows a lot of C, C++ and ASM.
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IQ is a relative measure of intelligence within age groups.
Of you're underage 125 IQ doesn't really mean you're smart in an absolute sense. It just means you're ahead of your peers.
Don't worry. If you're 125IQ and not some 80IQ that thought the online test he took was being nice you should manage a programming career just fine.
Keep at it though. It's better than wasting your time on videogames.
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>>71836206
i don't know where you got this idea from but is far as i know it is a bell curve with 100 in the middle, so 90 is just as common as 110 is.
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>>71836206
>110 is common
>90 is fairly rare

Source?
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>>71836206
I think the curve is just starting to shift, and the people are in general becoming "more intelligent" i wouldn't say the average id atound 100 these days, it probably gets closer to 110.
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>>71835397
Compared to other STEM fields I think the difference is mostly due to video games.
>I like video games so I'll make it a career
Well it turns out writing code is significantly less fun than playing video games.
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>>71836206
I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Maybe you shouldn't listen to Jordan Peterson.
The IQ scale is absolutely normalized. But that doesn't imply a perfect bell curve. Every measure with a sufficient number of randomly picked people does show the bell curve however. It's just the nature of most complex traits.
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>>71833238
Bruh , IQ doesnt mean anything , its about the will and the passion
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>>71836232
anecdotal
Turns out it is a bell curve with a standard deviation of 15.

>>71836237
as I recall 100 is defined as the average (age adjusted) score.
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>>71836237
hmm, wel iq is based on compairing intelegence between people, so the avarage should always be 100 by definition, unless you are also compairing with old test results, but since the iq tests change that would not be a very good idea.
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>>71836323
The perfect bell curve has to be there by definition, and where you are on it is decided by compairing your score with recent scores of other people, not old scores.
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>>71835439
>just dont be a retard and have friends
Scrap that "don't be a retard" part, it's entirely redundant.
When it comes to money, retard with friends >>>>> genius with no friends.
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>>71836309
M8 I've got a friend who's determined to get into cyber security. He's repeating 2nd year for he 3rd time. He ain't smart enough for comp sci and he works in construction during the summer. He should keep doing that but I do t have the heart to tell him. IQ matters more than you think, real life is not Disney and employers will fire him when they figure out he's a paper tiger (barely passed degree with a tech cert or two)
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>>71836413
Can confirm. Have a rich friend whose dad owns a construction comapny. Chucks always come on to him when they meet him at his massive house. not so much attention when we're at the pub. Not even hating on women here, a lot of his friends are just using him for parties at his holiday homes
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>>71836206
90 is fairly common, just as 110. The thing is people would never admit in public that they have an IQ of 90, because it's hard to admit you're dumber than the average Joe.
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>>71836090
If you can use sdl, who cares what your IQ is? All you have to do is pass calculus and linear algebra. The rest of the classes will be doable with any IQ (except maybe advanced algorithms, but those aren't required).

That's only if you go to school. If you don't go to school you won't be taken seriously, and your IQ will matter a lot.
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>>71834010
Take your time. Eventually it will click.
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>>71833260
Based and accurate
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>>71833260
I have seen enough people ruin their lives through stubbornness to know exactly how wrong you are.
32 kilowrongs, to be precise.
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>>71836777
People don't realise they lose IQ over time. Sure you gain more knowledge, but your ability to learn new things decreases after he brain starts to harden after just 26 years of age.
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>>71836206
>>71836226
>>71836237
>>71836319
>>71836323
>100 is average
100 is the average IQ of US/UK whites and other scores are normed to this. I don't understand why but it's how they do it.
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>>71836178
Yep.
IQ literally doesn't represent willpower and knowledge.
You can have an IQ of 135 and have no actual useful skills.
High IQ is a luxury, not a requirement to learn complex subjects.

>>71833238
It's the same with athletics, anon. I am not 6'2 and benching 300+ pounds in my two years, but I easily bench 250-275 and I was a total skellington before.
It takes time. IQ is pretty much just processor speed. It doesn't actually say what programs are being run on that machine, make sense?
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>>71837165
racist detected
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>>71837243
>It's the same with athletics, anon. I am not 6'2 and benching 300+ pounds in my two years, but I easily bench 250-275 and I was a total skellington before.
It's not the same order of magnitude.
The difference in ability to learn complex ideas between 120 IQ and 80 IQ is more like the difference in strength between 5' micro-skeleton and 7' giga-lanklet mutant Andre with so much testosterone you will go bald just by breathing the vapors he gives off.
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>>71837165
Is anyone scared of China now? 1.4 billion people and a higher IQ than the US and others.
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>>71833238
Attitude and perserverance is more important anon.
Expect that for the first few days it will be incredibly hard to grasp, but dont give up, it will become clear and clearer day by day, C, C++, Python etc doesnt matter what you start 1st soon you will have the ability to understand all short of different language.
If you are ESL like me you will have a chance to achieve IELTS 7.5 after 1 year reading code. (I did)
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>>71835810
130 IQ can be successful in ANY career. You overestimate how much IQ is required to perform tasks. 90% of jobs can be performed with 110 IQ. 80% with 100...
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>>71837292
you're racist
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>>71835895
nope, she's from South
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80 should be enough. Being retarded just means that you have to spend a lot of time for even the most basic shit. Programming is basically foolproof nowadays, you don't need to know anything about anything anymore. Just use Google/YouTube
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>>71838354
Sounds hard to believe. Is there any research to support this?
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>>71838443
>doesn't even understand averaging
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>>71838291
I hate all races equally, so fuck off back to where you came from.
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>>71837685
That depends. In your figuring you're probably leveraging teamwork a moderate amount. You can reduce the amount of new things each person has to learn by spreading the work over more people. However even in large businesses there comes a point where a person isn't worth keeping.
That said I worked for a government once. And they would rather reskill employees than let them go to higher someone relevant.
Back to the point, the IQ requirements for small businesses are much stricter. Nobody will help you and you can't afford to pay someone to do your work for you.
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>>71837165
>I don't understand why but it's how they do it.
white """people""" made the tests.
>t. spic with above average IQ
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>>71838616
What I meant is if they put the global average at 100 it would stop people's misconceptions about what 100 means.
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>>71838320
Then the other guy is probably just a salty shitskin.
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>>71838773
That would require testers to be far stricter. None of that communist lying, nor any of that giving illiterate Africans a zero.
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>>71833238
105 IQ for SQL highly doubt you are 125 if you are struggling...
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>>71838320
but the south has better hdi, education, and services
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>>71838991
You sound like a filthy left join subqueerest
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>>71833238
170 minimum
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>>71833238
>Get a job assisting head of IT with barely any college background under my belt
>Show some interest in programming
>Boss notices and gives me some smaller programming tasks
>Teaches me the bare foundation, tells me to Google whatever I don't know
>Year passes
>Prove that I'm a hard worker
>Boss keeps gradually giving me more complex programming tasks
>Another year passes
>Get promoted and start make programmer pay
>Get put on some of the bigger more important projects for the higher ups
>The actual real programmers with years of college and practice under their belts literally seething at the sight or mention of me at work
>Won't associate with me at all because they resent my lack of education
>Mfw

Remember diligence trumps all
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>>71833238
>programmer
90+
>webdev
80+
>python
95+
>sql
100+
>embedded
110+
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Is SQL really that high IQ?
I kinda got forced into it at work and it's always seemed piss easy to me compared to other languages.
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>>71839110
How well do your write SQL?
Do you have a country column in your person/store table?
Do you join 10 tables together for every query?
Do you select everything then sort in your general purpose language?
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>>71833238
Iq is irellephant, it's about how your brain works. a high functioning autistic kid could easily outcode all of /ghee/
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>>71839110
It's easy to use at basic level, but mastering it takes a ton of brainpower.
Though a great deal of SQL skill is just skill, the "wisdom" of an experienced dev who memorized common patterns.
There are plenty of counterintuitive implementation details that you can't "logic up" but have to know.
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but IQ tests don't assess math slills let alone programming skills anon
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>>71833579
That sounds interesting anon, any good books to recommend? Programming is just my hobby, I'm kinda bored.
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>>71833238
A person with an IQ of 90 could learn basically any language with enough repetition and motivation. Quit this IQ meme shit.
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>>71834010
Yeah but no matter how complex it is you start with basics. First you need a clear picture of what you want to achieve.
Then you brake complex problem into subsets of more simple problems to solve and you just solve one by one until you have a solution...
It's just way of thinking about things
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>>71834070
Yes and no. Depends what are you doing. Most of the time you just read the documentation and compose functions like a puzzle to solve the problem.
That is easy, I started to wonder how are those things made in the first place and tried to implement algorithms myself. That was some 10 years ago but knowledge you gain from it is invaluable.

In short, coding is easy ie. being code monkey, but to do proper design that takes into account pros and cons of different technologies, scaling, maintaining requires proper engineering.
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>>71833238

Literally exist/ be absurdly stubborn;
javascript/java/python/cake
C/C++/shell scripting/ruby

your IQ shouldn't be the limiting factor, just your desire to defeat the problem is; also your first language is always going to be pain. But programming is generally painful unless you do it alot.
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>>71834079
I don't agree with your scale and honesty think it's bullshit.
I find Lispy languages easier than than let's say Javascript. Mostly because it doesn't interfere with my way of thinking if that makes sense.

Instead of learning multiple frameworks, fighting with syntax to mold the problem to fit, I can just mold the language itself to fit the problem.
Sure Python is great for rapid prototyping but I mostly choose Chicken Scheme. Small, fast, compiles to C. Awesome

Fuckload of libraries is great for beginners but after a while you come back to basics. When you realize that with just few simple primitives you can build highly complex systems. Does it take longer? Yes. Is it worth it? Absolutely.
Why? Because now you don't depend on anyone, you can create your own library instead of searching the web.
That's just my opinion.
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>>71833238
don't know about the others, but I work in embedded and we're all pretty much retarded
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>>71834255
True to some degree...
If you compare someone with higher IQ who isn't really interested or have no drive with someone less intelligent but interested and willing to advance.
But the fact is that more intelligent person will pick up things way more easily and with a bit drive they can run circles around less intelligent people. Don't you agree?
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>>71839390
This is true for university. But when you get a job and your boss is telling you your productivity is lower than everyone else's what are you going to do? Work overtime for free so you can pretend to be high IQ?
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Please please PLEASE tell me that's a boy.
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>>71834179
Sure if only thing you will be doing is writing short scripts for automation but every piece of software more complex than that will require some sort of DB and keeping track of data.

You would know that if you ever had a job of actually building something of value.
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>>71833238

less creative and more logical ... if your strong suite isn't logic/math you're not going to have a good time
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>>71835698
One advice. Don't try to force your way of thinking and try to fit it to SQL. Adapt, be like water my friend.
Problem solving mind can adapt to somewhat different rules to do things but regardless, if you know how to solve a problem, learning the syntax is easy.
Don't start coding without the spec.
First think about the problem, then choose technology that fits best. Then put everything on paper, like a mind map. Visualize how different parts will fit together. Then start.
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IQ doesnt matter so much as your willingness to do it
dropped out of a cs after one semester because i fucking hated trying to learn it and nothing made sense to me
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>>71833238
My IQ is 121. Nothing to write home about. I know 4 programming languages, only counting the ones I know well enough to actually say I know them. C, C++, Python, Lua. Others I've played with in no order: Perl 5, C# at work, Ruby, oldschool Pascal, old JS for a bot in a game I like, etc. You can do it anon.
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>>71833238
>125
>Trouble with python and sql
Don't lie like that anon, you have to be retarded to struggle with python.
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>>71834160
What the fuck is this. I can't find her by any of both names. Where did you even get them from?
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>>71839673
That's a lie and you know it.
Python failed in its attempt at simplicity.
You basically have to know C just to understand Python's quirks.
Perl is a pain for anything big and can be hard to read. But at least it can be simple.
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>>71833243
To be fair, when I was a kid I struggled with python early on because programs worked but I felt like I didn't really understand why.
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Focus on getting crystallized intelligence rather than IQ. That means spend alot of time programming and consuming programming content. Even if you dont really understand it. Listening to talks and such alot. At a certain point you will see that the more you know the easier it is to learn and you'll feel like the complexity of what you want to learn no longer matters but rather the only thing that matters is if your interested in putting in the time.
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OK I know just enough html/css/javascript to make sellable webpages. Should I have go for Go(lang), or C#? I have some nebulous ideas of projects I want to do with these two languages, but I wonder if Go is naturally more related to web dev stuff? Since it's used in backend/networking projects. Meanwhile c# seems more associated with boomer office work. I know there's dotnetcore/razor pages, but that's a real new development and not mature yet.
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>>71839946
>cool chang vs. 'muh rape SJW
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>>71833238
Don’t rely on online IQ tests. Get an actual IQ test done by a psychologist. Or pay 70 or 90 dollars to do a Mensa IQ test.
t. Mensa member
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>>71834785
Sorry to tell you this but you failed at the very start by apparently not having read a single study on the consistency and significance of IQ.
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Don't worry, I'm sure in the future there would be even more easy languages than even the most let of the brainlets would be able to become a programmer.
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>>71840148
Mensa tests (at least here in Germany, I’m told every country’s Mensa handles shit differently) are a scam. Their results are super inflated towards higher scores. Makes sense too since they obviously profit from handing out higher results because higher scores -> more people passing the 130 mark -> more members -> more money.
Do a proper Full Scale IQ test at a psychologist if you wanna know your real IQ.

t. IQ 118 brainlet who scored 129 on mensa’s test despite guessing half the answers.
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>>71840279
Have you considered the idea that there's no conspiracy and you're just really are 129?
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>>71833260
Kek. Attitude alone is not enough. You can't compete with natural-born autistics and masochists with high IQ.
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>>71833238
>Whats the required IQ to be a programmer?
Double digit
>What about webdev?
Double digit
>What about embedded/MCs?
Triple digit
>t. 125 brainlet having a though time with Python and sQL
You are double digit IQ OP. Python is like pseudo code I could write it in my sleep.
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>>71841678
While I’d certainly like to think so, a professionally administered WISC-IV, which is the gold standard for IQ tests, easily beats Mensa’s crap – ISA-S, which I couldn’t find but a single study on – in accuracy and reliability. Also I’m a complete and utter moron, no way I’m anywhere near 129.
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>>71833238
I'm a brainlet and I have no problem programming. Hell, even thinking recursively still fucks me up.

Just have fun and break things down into smaller problems.
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>>71833257
is js really easy? it looks like java and java is fairly hard with all those interfaces and types and shit, I am comfortable with python.
and in js I see a lot of weird use of lambda functions and shit.
is python actually comparable to js?
people compare it with everything like kotlin, go etc and go have nothing common with go
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>>71835397
Because people flock to it for the wrong reasons (money or 'hurr durr I wanna make viyda!'). When I went into my junior year I was still seeing peers who had barely touched programming (first two years were basically theory only) and plenty of them couldn't cut it when the 'real' programming courses started.

A lot of them just went over to Infotech.
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>>71833260
based and currypilled
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>>71840279
Maybe guessing the answers is just a high IQ move.
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>>71833260
>Monkeys and Shakespeare
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>>71839718
https://funnyjunk.com/channel/animemanga/This+is+way+too+gay/scxvLfp/11
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>>71842126
This unironically might be the reason. The tester seemed kind of disgruntled when I remarked that guessing would be an objectively better course of action than leaving it blank, as he’d advised us to do.
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>>71842366
It depends whether you wanted to be known as someone who couldn't answer the question or someone who simply made up an answer.
If they believe you think that guessing is a good strategy they might doubt your commitment to truth/accuracy/objective facts.
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>>71837165
>tfw fingol
Suck it nerds
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>>71839946
What's wrong with the w*stoids in a webm. Get me out of here. I'm tired of these roasty hags
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>>71833238
95
75
110
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at least 10
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>>71839153
>Do you have a country column in your person/store table?
I have a separate address table because this is most likely a 1-N relationship
>Do you join 10 tables together for every query?
Depends on how the database is structured but this seems standard in a relational database?
>Do you select everything then sort in your general purpose language?
"Hey bro bring me the yellow hat"
Sure man here's the whole fucking hat cabinet, pick it up

Isn't situation above retarded? You should filter before sorting and should only select what you actually want.

How did I do?
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>beginner, reading algos
>just wasted an half an hour figuring out basic Ford–Fulkerson algo as I didnt realize why max flow was reached
At least youre not dumb as me OP
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>>71837165
>US/UK
>Chart does nothing to make these exemplary
This is Anglo bias. See it and eliminate them.
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>>71837415
Yes you can be sure that a balanced sample of the Chinese population takes these tests.
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>>71839456
that's because you're unironically in the 130 - 140 range, likely higher.
do you realise just how hard most people find any sort of problem-solving? Moulding the language to fit the problem is by no means an easy task for most people to handle because it requires keen creative problem-solving ability, which is incredibly difficult to teach.
People have enough of a hard time learning to apply pre-designed routines for solving problems. No way in hell you're going to get the average programmer to even think in a way that allows them to mould a language to their problem.
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>>71833238
If your IQ is not 125 at least, you should stay out the fuck of programming
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>>71846684
This, t >>71846325

My IQ is way lower and I cant solve problems alone. Calculus, physics, programming etc all require me to see and/or memorize an example close to the problem.

Take basic shit like Thevens theorem. I had very hard time understanding it without seeing multiple examples.

Lifes hell for low IQ
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>>71833260
>>71836309
>>71834255
bait, IQ is everything. Youre a science denier if you even try to claim anything else
>>71841926
>>71836218
>>71834103
I guarantee you have high IQ compared to most people.

>but I made it
Because you have high IQ. Every time you see someone claim IQ doesnt matter they always have high IQ or unverified one. You NEVER see someone tested at 90 or 110, working at some technical white collar job claiming IQ doesnt matter. No, its always some faggot with 130 in the clock because IQ does matter, these people cant admit that their success comes from being born right way instead of hard work.
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>>71833238
higher than yours if you think iq is the only thing you consider.
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>>71847145
And you just want to blame the world for your own incompetence.
Even if score a high number in an arbitrary measurement system, it doesn't mean you are qualified to this kind of job, or any other one.
High or low IQ people, still have to work their ass off to develop meaningful skills, you aren't born knowing how to program, and neither do you learn it just by reading a book.
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>>71847240
>And you just want to blame the world for your own incompetence.
Its just natural since that incompetence is thanks to the world and a shitty selection of genes.
>Even if score a high number in an arbitrary measurement system, it doesn't mean you are qualified to this kind of job, or any other one.
Of course not, one requires education for it. However, IQ does determine if youre capable of attaining said education or otherwise able to do the job with it. To put it simply, IQ is your capacity to learn things, if its too low then some professions are simply out of your reach.
>High or low IQ people, still have to work their ass off to develop meaningful skills, you aren't born knowing how to program, and neither do you learn it just by reading a book.
True. However high IQ might not have to work for something low IQ has to. One might get 1200 points in SAT with 100 hours of study while someone else requires 300 hours thanks to lower IQ.

Studying something is what makes IQ so unfair. you learn things slower if youre lower on the scale. The difference just gets bigger the more complex problems youre dealing with.
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>>71833238
Stop trying to memorize shit.
Go have fun with the shit.
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>>71839153
If any of these situations are considered advanced SQL then I must be 300iq
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with 120 should be enough. Bill gate IQ is 170 and he made a computer. i am the only person on planet with 300 IQ, and i really hate when people now it because i am not trying too kill too curious people. Edward Snowden niggers started to make business with me when i did not even knew i was the smarter person on the planet.... i just hate government niggers.....
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some people just cross the line the should respect....
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oh, true, should have 170 IQ, not 300 any more, because some too curious psychiatry and psychologist almost fuck may head 4 times......
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>>71847145
>>71847358
based and redpilled.

The world is unfair, deal with it. Your genes determine your worth as a human being, at least in today’s society, and IQ matters more than anything else. Sure, determination and drive play a role too, but only if you have a moderately high IQ to begin with. If you’re below 115, or perhaps 110, you might as well give up all hope of ever mastering a cognitively demanding skill like low level programming without expending insane amounts of effort.
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>>71847744
in a few months i will drop 0.5% of the USA economy without breaking the rules...... :) maybe...i don't know if will be able to do it.
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>>71847744
Only reassuring thing is that if you dont have low IQ you probably wont go through these notions
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>>71833314
Promises are pretty sweet.
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>>71847145
>>71847744
You guys have it all figured out, I've yet to see geneticists speak with this much certainty in their tones
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>>71847928
literally just read the literature on IQ, it’s clear as day to anyone that isn’t blinded by ideology or deluded by their self-importance.
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>96 IQ
>Picked up programming at age 22 after failing engineering school
It's not fucking hard to understand this shit.
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>>71847982
>literally just read the literature on IQ
Care to mention a few titles you've read?
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>>71833981
What the fuck I thought she was Russian.
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>>71848019
>>71847982
These
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>>71833238
nose rings are fucking unattractive and that one in particular looks disgusting bitch didnt even try
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>>71846242
How. Did I. Do?
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>>71833238
You may in fact be too intelligent for pythonshit
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>>71848019
Anyone can pick up even basic programming. Getting good at programming, however… Also, what test did you take? If it wasn’t WISC or WAIS, your anecdote is worthless anyway.
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>>71833238
nice humble brag thread
*validates you*
there, now post more of this slut
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>>71847821
what? how?
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>>71848376
Not him but define basic programming skills
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>>71848879
Being able to automate trivial tasks and solve simple logic problems, let’s say for example any year’s first 10 Advent of Code tasks.
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>>71833269
lol sql is the biggest shitshow ever. Go, Java and even fkin php way easier. Even the annoying to learn MongoDb querries are easier to understand. Nothingg else uses so manny google searches than sql
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>>71833981
damn im in love
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>>71833260
This
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>>71848994
lol no, most people cant do that. I cant do that and I have low iq
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>>71834010
sql has no logic, its just fucked
idk how people even get up and learn shit like that
never was interested in learning sql and i use it daily
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>>71833238
IQ is a garbage concept and doesn't work, anyone who claims IQs or anything related to it is """"science"""" is a retard and their opinion should be discarded.

The key to learning how to program is to start with something you can actually understand, and work up, and only move on to the next thing when you actually understand the thing you're currently working on.

Copy pasting code without understanding it is the sure fire way to not learn and be stuck a script kiddie forever.
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>>71847744
AI is more difficult than low level programming
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>>71849108
>IQ is a garbage concept and doesn't work, anyone who claims IQs or anything related to it is """"science"""" is a retard and their opinion should be discarded.
t antivaxxer
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Honestly anyone with an IQ above 95 can do it. Being "good" at it probably requires at least 120, but your basic 35-40k/yr code monkey job doing menial tasks like for loops to update some mundane database can be learned by most people with time.

People overestimate IQ over the internet. It's really only when you start entering the IQ<90 territory do things like basic reasoning skills start to break down to the point where you are left with a completely useless human being that can't understand jack shit.
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>>71837165
that's the highest i've ever seen cambodia
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Actual mensafaggot here.

IQ is severely overrated and really only acts as a good estimate for the speed at which you learn. It doesn't account for things such as intellectual honesty, or the ability to accept reality for what it truly manifests as opposed to what you desire it to be. I've met plenty of other members who were brainless mouthfoaming SJWs due to their inability to accept that their feels are not reals.

Would a high IQ help coding? Certainly. Being able to quickly identify logic systems is going to be a huge competitive advantage over someone who is slower. But it doesn't automatically translate to good code, and occasionally someone who is totally "average" can stumble upon a more efficient solution than the current meta.

TL;DR code more worry about your IQ less.
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>>71833238
I've felt (and perhaps literally been on some level) half brain damaged for the last 10 years or so, and have had a number of problems actively crippling brain function and wasting my time. I just started writing C-like programs in MS batch, taught myself C++, learned to work with video, learned avisynth, taught myself photoshop.... in the space of like 2 years. That was 6 or so years ago. I've been barely able to eat, sleep, and have constant nerve pain. That's the animal that is literally BTFO'ing you RIGHT NOW. I have done BETTER THAN YOU. Think about that.

Look, here's the deal. You guys ain't even trying. Get the hell off 4chan, stop eating trash, ELIMINATE exposure to microwave radiation like wifi, bluetooth, cell phones, smart meters. Period. They cause brain damage and via cholinergic changes cripple memory formation. Eat some cacao or something, get yourself lerned real good.

Do it. Now.
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>>71849519
> t. rural subhuman troglodyte monkey of a mouth btreather
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>>71849634
I don't follow. I mean I do, but I don't.

You're addicted.
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>>71849669
(and scared of realizing how trapped you are, of course)

Don't worry, it's only slightly better out here.
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Is IQ the 'penis size' for retards who pretend to be smart people?
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>>71833238
IQ is not important as your ability to commit to something and persevere

What is is the work you are willing to put in. If you believe in yourself you will be amazed at what you can accomplish.
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I wish I was mathematically apt as Lain
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>>71849760
It may well be we are all Lain anon, I actually do think Lain was nonfiction at its core, it is now us who are the programs. Regardless you can be. Eat lots of cacao, get some exercise, and you shall realize this in short order. Your mathematical ability will increase tenfold.

Just have to find a mental space where you can focus yourself onto it.
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>>71849519
Go into detail.
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>>71849881
About what.
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>>71833238
>>>Python
Any subhuman mongolian shitposter is okey , probably your kind of stuff
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>don't enjoy the actual coding itself
>get euphoria after seeing some progress in the program, even if it's regression
iscthis normal?
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>>71849886
How to have 1 billion IQ.
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>>71849519
>learned to work with video, learned avisynth
faggot anime encoder detectet
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>>71848376

Took out WISC as a kid . Result said 145 . Yet I'm an absolute brainlet when it comes to logical stuff , including Maths. IQ is bullshit desu.
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>>71849519
dilate
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>>71850013
IVTC'ing etc anime was the purpose of that, yes. I used yatta and everything :^)

I still have the files for Texhnolyze I never finished. Been on my list for a long time. VFR video was a pain in the ass back then and I couldn't obsessively rescue every orphaned field, so I eventually moved on to other things.

>>71850067
(You)
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>>71835810
You cannot even use proper punctuation or grammar, yet you somehow expect to be able to handle low-level programming? Get over yourself.
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>>71837165
>nepal
>60

Isnt that barely able to function
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>>71833238
100 or less, if your IQ is higher than this you are either a doctor, engineer or a businessman.
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>>71847145
t>>71847145
this
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>>71834079
imagine calling yourself a webdev when you can't write fucking JS, PHP, or .net. CSS and HTML are not programming languages. Weebdevelopment might not be as 1337 as programming PLCs, but at least it's programming.

Also, the post I'm responding to was written by a legitimate moron. Who thinks you need a genius IQ to learn languages no one uses?
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>>71837415
I mean, I'd say China ranks higher than most on that list, but the Chinese are notorious for cheating.
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>>71847145
High IQ successful guy here. My paternal lineage is high IQ af, with a PhD physicist father with both of his parents being PhD mathematicians. IQ matters, and I have a genetic advantage. Thats the truth, and it's been the source of my confidence back when I had nothing else.

But theres so many much to being a successful person that it's kinda dumb to say that IQ is the only thing that matters. I don't really respect intelligence anymore since it's easy to be a dickwad that sits around thinking but never acting.

Be smart enough, challenge your weaknesses, and be willing to iterate on your own mistakes.



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