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/mkg/ - Capacitive Buckling Springs edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG (embed)
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL (embed)
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp (embed)
>Group Buys
https://deskthority.net/viewforum.php?f=50
https://www.massdrop.com/
>Keyboard wiki
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Last thread: >>70490273
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What is the point of keycaps where you have a large key and only a small 'raised' bit like in OP pick
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Anyone know who makes a Low Profile TKL Chiclet keyboard?

$120
willing to order globally
low profile linear switches
flat chiclet keycaps
tenkeyless
single color backlight at least
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>>70537837
Apple Magic.
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>>70537868
Those don't even have linear switches, try harder next time
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>>70537881
Just take out the rubber domes lmao
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Finally built my first DIY board.
PCB is a KBD67 (USB-C) with Kailh BOX Whites and the Tada68 plastic case because I'm a cheap cunt, and purple 1.8mm LEDs because backlighting is nice.
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>>70537916
How difficult was it to do? I'm thinking about it
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>>70537954
If you know how to solder, it's not that hard. I watched a ton of videos and did a couple months of researching into everything I needed beforehand so I could be sure that I was doing everything correctly and in the proper order. IMO the hardest part is just waiting for everything to show up. That and desoldering a switch if you put it in the wrong hole like I did.
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>>70537976
Yours turned out really nice. Is there an advantage to getting the solder version over hotswap?
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>>70537998
Honestly, no. Hotswap tends to be more expensive and like I said, I'm a cheap fuck. I got the solder-in version because I don't ever plan on changing switches, and if I do, I'll likely just build a new board knowing how easy it is to do.
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>>70538022
thank you for holding my hand
also where did you get the PCB from
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>>70538033
I got the PCB, case, plate, and switches from KBDFans, got the LEDs from flashquark, and I got PCB-mount stabilizers from novelkeys because the KBDFans 65% plate isn't compatible with plate-mount stabilizers.
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>>70538033
>>70538065
Oh and I got the keycaps from pimpmykeyboard because I wanted those custom colours and that 1.75U Escape key
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>>70538065
>>70538086
thanks anon good info and yours turned out well
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>>70537868
Are they PC compatible? I also need wired for better input
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Whats the best looking split which is atleast 50%
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>>70537702
https://github.com/BenRoe/awesome-mechanical-keyboard/blob/master/README.md

found this link while lurking, we could ad it to the General and replace the zombie link
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cute
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>>70538248
>he bought a sig knockoff
>still using filco
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>>70540098
>he bought a S&W knockoff
>still using domes
Whuttup muh boi
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>>70540240
>.40 SNAP & Welfare
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>>70540240
yeah i can't hear you over my triple action that i don't use bc i don't trust it

bet you've never even felt oneness with the cup rubber
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>>70537789
It was a cheaper and inferior alternative to stabilising larger keys with something like a wire or a second “dummy” shaft/switch. The idea is, if there's nowhere to really press off-centre relative to the switch, there won't be any binding from pressing the key wrong. IBM were heavily criticised for it even at the time of release, because it just looked fucking weird.
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>>70540351
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The pleasure of returning to the same switches every day, mmm, molto bello.
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>>70540637
yeah, the best switches
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>>70539752
would look ok if not for those awful leds
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>>70538248
>>70540098
>>70540240
>>70540637
>teehee lemme do show and tell with all of my super badass toys to impress a bunch of anonymous people on the infamous internet hacker hate matchine edgelord forum, 4chan

nice keyboards though, faggots
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For me it's lubed blacks
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>>70540553
Thanks anon. Seems a little odd to make a big key when you can only press a small amount of it.
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Anyone here owns a Varmilo keyboard?
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>>70540835
>lubed blacks
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>>70540954
You can meme all you want about it, but doesn't change the fact that they're the best switches
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>>70541018
Sorry, I only use stock cherry blues on my razer blackwidow gaming keyboard :^)
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>>70540954
kek'd
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>>70540826
what are you a fucking yuropoor
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>>70540793
I usually have them off just turned them on for the pic
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I'm looking at getting a switch tester so I can get some kind of idea as to what switches I'll want. I'm looking at the Novelkeys 25 slot tester, and of these, what would you guys recommend so that I get the best sampling of the major clickies, tactiles, and linears?
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>>70541585
https://kbdfans.cn/products/kbdfans-72-switches-tester-all-in-one
go big or go home
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So anyone go to the Boston meetup today? I got to tryout tons of switches, and even a working selectric 2. My favorite switches were Holy pandas. I liked them better than zeal v2s and box royals. I also got to try out zilents and they are so quiet it was unbelievable. I just wish there were zilents v2 there.
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>>70541621
>>70541585
Massdrop has a drop for this FYI for $4 cheaper if you're in the US
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Thinking about getting a Ducky One 2 (TKL) with cherry brown switches. What do ya think?
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>>70542341
>Assdrop
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>>70542485
Not a bad choice, but
>Browns
Just solder in some Halo Clears or Zealios and you’re good to go.
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I've always heard PBT is a lot better at enduring wear than ABS but exactly how good is it? Can I use the same key caps for 10 years and expect the tops to not get shiny?
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>>70543146
Possibly. Look at the old Model Ms on ebay: very few of them are shiny. Granted of course most haven't been used continuously for the 30 or so years of their life, but rather have likely spent some time in storage. But you can be almost sure that the majority of them have spent at least a few years seeing daily use in an office.
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>>70540637
You're either taking new photographs of one single keyboard every thread or you're stockpiling dozens of pics of one single keyboard.

I don't know which option is more autistic.
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>>70541621
doesn't come with Zealios V2
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>>70543146
Yes.
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>>70543146
depends on how often you use them. PBT does eventually get shiny, but that takes a much longer time when compared to ABS since PBT is a harder plastic. Even if it does you can sand blast your keycaps to get them nice and rough like people do with GMK's ABS
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>>70543335
Wouldn't the legends get messed up if they're not doubleshot, I've never done sand blasting before.
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>>70543404
Dye-sub will be fine since the legends are burned into the keycaps becoming a permanent part of it.
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>>70543424
>burned into the keycaps
youre describing lasered keycaps, dye sub is different
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>>70543471
no they use heat to transfer the ink burning it into the keycap
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>>70543480
heat yes, burning no
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>>70543584
you have to burn the material to skip the liquid phase tho
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>>70543600
again, heat not burn, the dye is sublimated not burned, if it was burned it would be oxidised and the chemical composition would change. also burning dyes also ruins the intended color.
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>>70543701
burning is just layman's terms for an exothermic reaction. the initial transition from solid to gas is indeed endothermic, however the ink needs to adhere to the materials which is an exothermic reaction
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>>70543885
uh, no burning is specifically an oxidising chemical reaction, its not a layman's term for anything
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>>70543921
Burning is a chemical process by which two atoms or molecules will combine with each other. In burning, the two atoms or molecules will combine and release energy. Usually one of the two molecules is oxygen or something else chemically like it called an oxidizer. When the molecules combine and release energy, it is released in the form of heat and often light.

Even though we are familiar with things like paper or wood burning, actually, the simplest burning process is the burning of hydrogen. Hydrogen burns with oxygen and produces water. It is strange to think about it in this way, but water is actually burnt hydrogen.
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>>70543039
What the fuck is with this general and halos all of the sudden?
They're uber mediocre, imo.
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>>70544161
They're more tactile then zealios for less money
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>>70544203
They literally aren't though.
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>>70544161
i got them because i liked topres and heard they were designed to mimic topres. after getting them i like them more than topres
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>>70544235
They're not even as good as the hakos
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>>70543195
>I don't know which option is more autistic.
I do.

You commenting on it.
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Need a good silent cherry mx
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>>70544800
>good
>cherry mx
Pick one and only, one.
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MK noob here, which switches feel the absolute best when typing?
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>>70544800
Same, want something to use in the office but I know people will bitch. TKL preferred
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>>70544821
IBM Beamspring.
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>>70544821
Topre
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Which do I buy?
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>>70544821
MX Brown
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>>70544834
Membrane shit makes noise too.
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>>70545041
The one without LEDs and stupidly heavy switches.
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>>70545041
Leopold FC750R
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>>70537702
>that enter key
why
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Nyquist or iris
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>>70545228
Dactyl-manuform :^)
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>>70546458
No
The 3d printing is ugly as shit and I am not ready to do the hell that is wiring the entire thing

Is that a clover key?
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>>70546555
Just a !windows key. I could wire it up for you, can't help if you don't like the look though m8.
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>>70544821
Kailh Cream
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>>70540925
I'm looking forward to owning one but I need to know if they have fully programmable boards and their official email doesn't answer me.
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>>70546458
How does that feel?
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I have a Ducky Shine 4 with MX Browns right now, and I'm getting really tired of never knowing if caps/num lock is on because the LEDs don't shine through my PBT caps. I'd also like some other switches, are there any that are more tactile at roughly the same weight? ISO is a must, standard cap sizes are a big plus. I haven't been up to speed on MKs since I got this like five years ago.
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Bought 205g0 and 3024 from switchmod, will I even notice a difference between either?
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>>70548062
you should've just gotten $10 oil and grease off amazon and mixed them for the right consistency
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>>70537998
Hotswap is vastly superior because you never have to desolder all your switches to fix or make adjustments plus you can swap in and out switches on the fly for easy sampling
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>>70548288
My friend lives in a place with really terrible air, like he gets grime buildups from a bunch of sulfur, and his switches have acted up because of it. He told me the only reason his board still works is the fact he can remove switches to clean them.
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>>70548730
Where does your friend live at? Chernobyl?
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Do NOT fall for a vintage keyboard(switch) meme.
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>>70549145
Close, Indiana
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which switches are:
-most quiet
-tactile bump (like topre)
-have the least key wobble
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>>70550012
Zilent v2
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Do I want cherry clears if I want silent blues
I know jack shit about switches other than cherry
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>>70551347
It's not a bad option actually yeah
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>>70547929
More comfortable than an ergodox. The curved columns and angled thumb cluster really help. That and the pinky columns being more offset means I can actually hit the q and p keys with my pinky comfortably.
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>>70550032
This.
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>>70547982
wtf do you need iso for.
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>>70552150
He's a dum third worlder. Go easy on him
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>>70550012
Topre-S
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>>70552283
Any sound dampening for the upstroke? I have topres already, most of the noise is from the key snaping back into position.
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Has anyone here ordered anything from lfkeyboards? Do you know how long they take to get to in the US?
It's been a month since I ordered from them...
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>>70552350
That's the only difference with the topre-s. They added some thin o-rings to dampen the upstroke.
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>>70544821
personal preference.
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>>70545228
iris is more comfortable
nyquist has more keys, but if you're going for a split ortho with more keys, just go for a bfo-9000
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>>70544834
Depending on how hard you mash your keys, mx clears can be good. The tactility is not clicky, and the springs are stiff enough that you probably won't bottom out. At least, that's the experience I've had. This is on my built board (GH60, generic cheap alu plate and plastic case, thicc PBT caps).

Much quieter in general use than all other cherry switches I've used.
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would any of you know where to buy those split pcbs? preferably asia.
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Alright /g/aylords, where is the best place to buy kits/parts in the UK?
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>>70553581
Your local sweatshop
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Trying to flash my tada68 with qmk, I hit the reset button and it flashing like it's meant to, but I'm not seeing it showing up under /dev/sd* nor does it show up with fdisk. wat do?
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>>70544821
Scissor
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I wish I could get to match my keyboard but it's out of stock :c
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4269
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Hot take; 65% is the absolute minimum for anything even remotely close to productive use.
60%s lack arrow keys and other nav keys on the primary layer, 40%s put numbers under a Fn layer on top of that, and anything less than a 40% is a useless meme altogether. If you want a small board, go 65% or get a bigger keyboard.
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>>70554449
just works in windows, triggered
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What's the opinion on BOX Pinks? I have sissy fingers and Whites are my favorite BOX clicky switch (out of white, pale blue, jade and navy) but I haven't tried Pinks. I heard they're improved Whites, so I get them instead to build my new board?
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>>70554719
I wrote my legal studies thesis paper with a 40% keyboard without issue
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>>70554719
I'd rather use a layer than move my hands more than 1 row away from home row
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How do you ship keyboards and keycaps? Do I take my stuff to the post office and they have materials there? Do I have to pay for boxes and packing material?
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Looking for a full size mech keyboard with cherry mx brown under $100. Any suggestions?
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>>70554719
>muh arrow keys meme
go back to imgur
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does logitech offer any solid mks for under 100 bucks?
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>>70556984
Why does it have to be logitech?
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>>70557047
Just asking, been looking around and they haven't really come up anywhere
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Is there anywhere that sells black on white PBT cherry keysets?
Only place I've found them is stock on Leopold keyboards
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>>70540826
lemme guess you're a no guns fag
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>>70557052
logitech keyboards and switches suck, get a Ducky or Coolermaster if you must
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>>70557358
anything in particular that you recommend?
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How is Rosewill? I'm looking at the RK-9000V2
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>>70557883
They're okay/10.
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>>70557883
they're costar made and have almost the same case as filco, so really its just a discount filco
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does anyone know of somewhere that i can buy a bunch of full sized ANSI or ISO layout rubberdome keyboards for like a dollar each?
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>>70537916
What keycaps are those?
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>>70556961
>not using arrow keys to scroll while you jerk off
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>>70557999
pimpmykeyboard's custom dye sub DSA set. I got the 60% base in BFV, the TKL modifiers in RCG, and the "Sorry" keycap is a unique thing they sent me to make up for the fact that they sent me 3 Ctrls and only 1 Alt, so when they sent the other Alt cap, they sent an apology cap in the same colour that I decided to use as my modifier.
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>>70556799
lol how do you function
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>>70537702
why dont these threads have recommended buys for different price ranges>
>up to 100$
...
>100-200$
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>200-250$
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>250-300$
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>300$+


etc.
make it happen
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>>70559700
Because the OP hasn't been updated in 3 years and no one wants to do it
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Alright lads, I'm going to pre-order the SA Symbiosis 2.0 off Kono, but I need to figure out the best parts to go with it. I want maximum THOCCery, but I'm not sure if I should go with box royals for pleasant typing or box pinks for more crispness. Jades/navies are out of the question because fuck typing with that debilitating level of tactility. I'm also pondering whether or not to get a brass plate. Is the sound difference noticeable, or will an alu plate be fine? Also, Where the *fuck* do you get proper retro-looking cases, because all I can fucking find are ~artisanal~ wood cases and milled-alu cases in the 250$ range. Outside of finding an old mechanical at a yard sale and desoldering everything, what options are there?
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>>70559700
>under $50
Literally anything, try to get Outemu switches
>under $100
Tada68, GMMK for larger sizes but shittier quality
>under $200
Large choice here, fill in the template for proper recommendations
>over $300
A good Model F
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>>70559700
You gotta do the updating by the book
You know you can't be lazy!
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Does anyone here have Holy Pandas or even one of the DIY similars? How heavy are they? The spring is 67g so is it comparable to 67g V1 or V2 Zealios? Or is it lighter/heavier? Asking because 67g V1s are borderline okay for me and V2s are too heavy.
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Any recommendations for use in an office? Half my job is typing.
>Budget
Probably $100 - $150 AUD?
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Not too sure. I'm thinking clear. I want something tactile but near silent.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Preferably no, but a dim white would be fine. Again, use in an office so I don't want something distracting.
>Previous/current keyboards
Utter garbage. My Mac keyboard and a bunch of really cheap membrane keyboards.
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>>70560212
>A good Model F
those are ugly as fuck , lack super-key and are all 2nd hand meaning someone probably rubbed his dick on the keys
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>>70560241
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/
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Ordered my first mechanical keeb, it's coming in tomorrow.

Ducky One 2 Skyline Cherry MX black.
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/mkg is just another thread in a long string of generals on 4channel that cater to NPCs (don’t like that term but idk what else to call it) whose personalities consist of what media they consume and what products they buy. Purchasing keyboards is a not a skill, it’s not a hobby, it’s not something that can be translated into enriching experiences. It goes along well with the other “hobbies” such as:

>watches
>headphones
>iems
>crt monitors
>video games

They’re not real hobbies. They’re just ways to spend money. I mean, the nerds of this website are just doing their typical 6 hours of browsing a day, and they see a general from this board, and they do just enough research to where they can find the best “starter keyboard”.
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”what’s the least amount of money I can spend that will make me superior to the plebs who haven’t discovered this niche community like I did (20 minutes ago)???”

The answer is usually a Ducky One 2. It’s $90, available on Amazon Prime, and has a cherry switches. CHERRY MX MECHANICAL SWITCHES, GUYS. This means that I am far superior to the idiots who still buy membrane keyboards *scoffs*.

I mean, programming is a hobby. Building new gadgets is a hobby. Repairing old electronics is definitely a hobby. But buying keyboards is not. It’s just an activity that we all like. We’re all just slightly more advanced than the dipshit who browses this thread and reads the pastebin and determines that he needs a HHKB. The advanced version, of this dipshit, by the way, is the richer dipshit who buys the empirically boring Model M. It buckling springs for max tactility, lads. I'm so retro!!!

This general is just a crowd-sourced machine that allows people to verify that they have the right opinions, the right tastes. It’s not a hobby. It’s barely even an interest. It’s just a way for us to spend money. But spend money with the approval of other people who have been suckered into spending money to impress other (anonymous) suckers. No one will ever recognize your snowflake 60%. No one you meet in real life will ever know what a holy panda is. The only people who will are other anonymous who participate in a niche general.

The only keyboard you really need is a $5 membrane one and you didn’t need to waste hours and hours on this site to figure that out.
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>>70540637
Why are you still posting the exact same keyboard after at least 2 years?
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>Budget
up to 150-170 euro
>Location (continent at least)
west europe
>Preferred switch type
cherry blue, i want something clicky
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
not sure, have leds in my mouse but i barely use them or play much with them.
if they dont up the price too much sure, otherwide doesnt matter
>Previous/current keyboards
shit 20buck keyboard,
>Aditional notes
i want something exposed like pic related, i like the look
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>>70540826
wtf is wrong with the retards posting guns. I hope you die by one.

And the taste in keyboards is normie retards class. Does ISIS propaganda appeal to you too?
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>>70560241
Look at this retard. Who broke you?
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>>70560425
Anon this is a commercially-fueled retard shitshow with idiots memeing each other. I have a model F and a model M that I got for 2 bucks when they were not cool. I also used macs in the 90s with the apple extended keyboard II. I have used all that's revered as the cream of the crop by these idiots. I am free of their posing and of their insecurities. I am free of the purposeless search for the perfect whatever it is they are searching.

I wouldn't be surprised that these imbeciles have also done the rounds searching for the perfect "writing instrument", because god forbid using bic pens. Another playing ground for idiots is "time pieces".

Keep searching anons! That sure improves your writing skills!
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>>70541031
based
>>70544821
buckling springs
>>70554719
it’s easier to have the arrow keys on the home row in a function layer than moving your hand back and forth from the home row to the arrow keys
t. Pok3r
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Thoughts on the Redragon K556 or K582? Looking for a cheap mechanical.
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Hi /g entleman

What switch type do you advice for ad sys / Code guy ?
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>>70561033
whatever is enjoyable for you to type on. that's the only thing that matters, unless volume is a concern
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>>70561040
>unless volume is a concern
well
i work on an open space
so i need to be quiet :/
what are the the quieter switch ?
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>rubber dome model m
Why even live
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>>70561076
Silent red, silent black or whatever else that has silent in the name, they are way quieter due to having rubber washers dampening all the problematic parts, but as a result they also feel duller to type on, some people like them, some don't.
Generally just try to avoid clicky switches like MX blue since they're the loudest.
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Need advice on switches to slap on a hot-swappable board.

What are the best linear, silent switches?
What are the best clicky, tactile, loud switches?
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Thanks to whoever recommeded me the Ducky Shine 7 last week. It arrived today and I love it!
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Any good TKL PCBs? I can find a lot of 60% boards and kits, but that's too small for me.
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>>70561327
Tealios (swap spring and add lube, to taste)
Box navy
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>>70556908
check out offerings from ikbc
I personally have had two 87 ones and they are good value for money.
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>>70560476
bump
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What is the general consensus on cheap chinese keyboards with Cherry MX switches?
I don't feel like shelling out so much on a simple keyboard but I want to try out the mech way, and a cheap chinese one looks affordable.
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>>70560476
CM MK750 I guess. Better caps are a must though.
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>>70562490
I'd use linears for vidya. Tealios seem to be kinda heavy.
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>>70563196
That's why I said spring swap to taste
Get some 10g sprit springs and enjoy typing by blowing on your keyboard
Also get gateron silent linears and lube them for an almost equivalent experience at a fraction of the cost
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>>70562755
>”what’s the least amount of money I can spend that will make me superior to the plebs who haven’t discovered this niche community like I did (20 minutes ago)
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>>70562755
They're fine, you won't get the best case or keycaps but who cares about the former and the latter can be changed.
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>>70560431
Because it's perfect requiring no upgrade.

The first flaw I've had is the left alt key dropping random presses. Gotta fix that switch.
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>>70564476
is that real money?
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So I recently got a GMMK board and some Navy switches, but I also kinda want some regular tactile switches for typing later at night when my partner is asleep.
Only tactile switches I've tried are Cherry Brown and Romer-G. Cherry Browns were kinda lackluster, and the Romer-G were kinda nice, but no longer have a keyboard with them, and am just after the switches.
With tactile, is the bump generally the actuation point? Have tried Dark Yellow, but it's a little weird getting used to typing with them.
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>>70564941
Most tactile switches will have the actuation point right after the bump.
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redpill me on topre/topre clones as an mx-type switch user
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>>70565103
stock domes suck. BKE is the way to go
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Should I just skip the bs and shell out for a FC980C?
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>>70565528
no topre sucks
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>>70565661
How are the Cherry versions?
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>>70565697
only heard good things about leopolds if you're going for a prebuilt keyboard
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>>70565528
Yes.
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>>70565528
get the full sized version instead
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>>70564784
is it odd to have some savings in cash?
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>>70566346
Yes, because inflation exists
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I need some php help
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>>70566346
no im just a poorfag and ive never seen that much real money at once
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>>70564784
>implying anyone here has any reasonable amount of money
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>>70560476
GMMK and box jade switches. Cherry blue switches can not compete with other switches in terms of clickiness. Search up box jade sound test and cherry blue sound test and you'll be surprised
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>>70560221
Quietest MX switch is either zilents or silent reds.
The reds come in Leopold keyboards, which are extremely nice but you miss out on the tactility.

If you want quiet + tactile that's acceptable for an office, you either have to build/mod a keyboard with zilents or get an extremely overpriced Topre-S board.
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>>70560216
Anyone?
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>>70566707
Ask me in about a month when assdrop ships the new meme pandas.
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>>70566726
I ordered them too. Just wondering if I should get a batch of V1 62g Zeals instead and resell the Pandas when they come. Guess I'll just wait another two months
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>>70566734
No point in the V1 zeals imo. If you want something kinda similar to the meme pandas then get V2.
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>>70566754
I have 67g V2s and I don't like how harsh and heavy they are. I already know I like 62g V1s. I prefer light typing and the V2s don't actuate 100% of the time for me unless I hamfist my strokes. Just wondering if HPs will be similar.
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>>70566764
From what I've read the bump on the pandas isn't as large, but still very rounded and starts near the top.
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https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01D3BDN60

Will this ever go down to $100 USD or below? :(
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I haven't tested holy pandas yet. But I'm getting yok mint pandas and halo switches this week (I have some 67g spirit springs too) I'll finally be able to test out how I feel about all of the best tactile switches. For compatison here's what I have so far.

Kbdfans t1 - feels like a sharper tactile bump from the zealio v2s. Feels EXTREMELY similar. A bit more tactile, but the return is slightly delayed than the v2s so if you're looking for responsiveness then v2s are still best.

Zealio V1s - not very tactile, reminds of of a alightly more tactile mx clear, but they are far smoother than any modern mx switch. They feel good to type on but at weights above 67g the tactility is reduced due to the actuation requiring more force. Above 67g they remind me of heavy mx browns almost.

Zealio V2s - My gold standard for tactility. They and the t1s feel almost lile a tactile box thick click. The feedback is at the very top, unlike the navies tho they don't require so much force that you bottom out immediately when you pass the click. They have a notably faster return than the t1s and are much smoother. Unlike the v1 zealios weights beyond 67g do not have a very noticable effect on tactility. They remind me a lot of bke heavies but a bit less activation force.

Box navies - Good switches, very tactile, feedback is at the very top, but the activation force will make you depress the key due to the thick clickbar. This is sorta remedied in the box jades, but the click bar is so thick it is offputting when typing because the click and the actuation are on different elevations and unlike the navies your initial force won't always depress the key immediately after clearing the clickbar.

Topre 45/55g - feels good to type on, very tactile despite being fairly easy to actuate.
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>>70567048
Bke domes - stick with light / heavy. For the weight the lights are at there is nothing more tactile. The heavies remind me of zealio v2s but a bit less tactile and return immediately. Heavies are bad for anything with repeated keypresses like games / backspace spamming.

Hako trues - feel a surprising amount like topre 55g but waaaaaay heavier. They arent as tactile but the tactile bump feels similar. All the hako switches have weird bottoming out feels. After you clear the tactile event the spring gets progressively harder to depres.

Hako clears - these remind me a lot of the zealio v2s and the kbd fans t1s. BUT their tactile events feel shorter and they bottom out like the hako trues. If you plotted them on a curve (a function of force over time) they'd have a gradual rise and fall and after a bit rise up before being fully depressed
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>>70567102
You mean the hako royals not the vanilla hakos right?
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>>70567116
Whatever the ones are with the box salmon stems.

The clears are the box white stems I believe.
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>>70560417
that's where you're wrong. idk about those watch/headphone/monitor guys making their own
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>>70564784
Of course.
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>>70567142
The difference is the leaf that actually actuates the switch is thicker on the hako royals, so it's more tactile. On the outside the switches look the same.
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>>70567203
Are both of those box switches? Both hakos of mine are box switches.
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>>70567218
Yes. The only visual difference is the hako royals have black bottoms.
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>>70567237
My Hako Royal Clears have white stems and a white base.
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>>70567237
Ah both of mine are the black bottomed ones. I wasnt aware there were 2 versions of the hakos in addition to the halos. I'd be tempted to try them, but i think Zealio v2s are best for me if not holy pandas which ill have before the week is over.
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>>70567290
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>>70567320
It's what KBDFans sent me. Tactility is quite rounded and doesn't start at the very top. I much prefer clickbar tactility so some T1s may be in my future.
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>>70566926
I think it went out of production, so I doubt the price will come down much further. A Ducky One 2 is built better and cheaper at that point.
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>>70566384
it stays the same in or out of a saving account
having some cash around is a good idea
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>>70538248
Do you every get bored posting the same 3 pictures every fucking thread?
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>>70567361
I'm just looking for a mech board with cherry mx brown switches $100 and under.
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>>70566926
>>70568747
What are you waiting for?
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>>70568747
A non-backlit Ducky One 2 is 99 bucks.
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>>70568433
That's not what's happening, pay attention.
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>>70569002
>a couple of glocks
Hey wait a minute...
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>>70568768
>used

I dont trust it
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>>70567179
that cute scorpion!
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Hello /mkg/. I already have a basic bitch Corsair mechanical keyboard and it works well. However I play World of Warcraft and other games and I'd like to get a keypad like pic related, except you know, not membrane and cheap garbage. I have a budget of $250 I'm willing to spend. Can these sorts of things be bought or do I have to build it?
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>>70569858
There are a few companies out there but for a somewhat niche (and meme) device like this you might actually save money building it. I almost never say that because saving money building is a pipe dream at best, but the tiny half-sized gaming boards are so niche and expensive that it may be worth a shot.
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>>70569858
Why the fuck do you want one of those anyway? You'd still need a real keyboard to do literally anything else.
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Opinions on GMMK boards?
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>>70569958
Easily available, reasonably priced, decently built hotswap boards.
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>>70569925
>>70569943
hmm. Maybe I'll just buy some China garbage. I use it for macros and spells. I play a healer in mythic raids and being able to toss out a quick spot heal with a single buttons vs Shift + button, Ctrl + Shift + button is a pain in the ass.
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>>70569858
For that much I'd get a knockoff VE.A from taobao and just use the left half
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>>70570082
Is that a sata cable connecting the two half
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>$150 for dsa keycaps for a 96 keyboard if using pmk
wtf. that's more than how much the PCB+case+switches cost me
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>>70570097
Yes. It doesn't make much sense to be honest.
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>>70570097
it is, the knockoffs use USB or TRS
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>>70570109
why are you buying from america? you know that country has labor laws, taxes and shit like that. buy from china instead
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>>70537916
>PCB is a KBD67
looks cool, whats the deal with these?
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>>70571121
>whats the deal with these
How do you mean?
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>>70570082
that's a really sexy keyboard
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>>70571121
>>70571332
Lack of response notwithstanding, they're good compact DIY PCBs. They can support a variety of physical layouts and run QMK firmware so they're fully programmable. You could set it up like mine with 2 1.25U modifiers between the spacebar and arrows, or you can set it up with 3 1U keys in that space. It supports a split spacebar in a lot of different ways that I haven't toyed with and frankly never will. On top of all that customisability, they're cheap as far as PCBs go, and as of now they come with USB-C connectors, a feature a lot of Chinese manufacturers haven't seemed to move forward with yet.
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>>70570082
>wasd cluster
>dragon dildo keycaps
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What are some light weight but tactile and clicky switches, say about 30-35g? Preferably something that doesn't lose the clicky after a while like cherry blues.
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sorry, i was looking them up on Aliexpress, they look sweet and the fact that there programmable is cool
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Since most split keyboards are either not what I want, out of stock or hyperexpensive, what's a good minimal 60%?
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>>70571512
got a link?
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>>70571594
I have KBParadise v60, pok3r, and gk64. All are decent but I'd recommend the gk64 with hot swappable pcb.
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Reminder that Massdrop is a complete scam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k84K-FESAc
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>>70571737
If you're buying stuff that's available in other places, you're doing it wrong.
Also that bitch is retarded, what part of "macropad KIT" is hard to understand?
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>>70571881
the funniest part is they give you an option to buy it constructed.
it costs $5 more.
She ended up spending more than that on a soldering kit and then does a terrible job and burned her hand.
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any recommendations for a "cheap" keyboard?

i have a set of keycaps already picked out and a cable
im looking for a really basic plain black full size mechanical keyboard with either browns or clears
preferably with a removable cable, important because it will be coming with me back and forth from my desk at home to my desk at work every day
(and because i found a nice coiled "landline phone cord" style cable available in mini, micro, and type c)
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>>70572005
GMMK
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>>70572010
not a fan of the leds and definitely not a fan of the "bezel-less" design
it is really cheap though, so i will put it on my list in case i cant find a better alternative
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>>70572024
never mind, just realized that the listed price was without any switches installed
even with the cheapest switch option and no keycaps it is still $90
i'm looking for $80 or less if possible

when i say basic i mean really basic
as in plain black box with switches in it
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>>70572005
tada68
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Yo, anyone know where to find rubber key caps for Cherry MX?

I can find normal sized keys easy enough but I need the main Enter key and numpad Enter key for ANSI US specifically.
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>>70562755
i have two ikbc tkl keyboards with cherry switches
bought both two years ago on ali, no issues, use both almost every day (home & work)
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>>70550012
Topre type-s (fijutsu released a type-s realforce 87u
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>>70553156
Should be noted that the type-s has bigger sliders to account for the o-rings

so it's better than a mod for example
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so i got Kailh tester and Whites / Jades are huge improvements over the Cherry clicky switches. Whites especially are awesome, they feel almost linear. However, after mashing them for 15 minutes I'm already annoyed by the high pitched click. I just really prefer linear switches, I guess. I couldn't tell much of a difference between Box Reds and MX, so I guess I'm just using MX Reds until I die. am i retarded?
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>>70574212
Not really, ideally linear switches shouldn't feel too different from each other other than the weight, I believe.
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>iris
>only clear and black acryl in stock
>nyquist
>only black acryl in stock
>helix
>too fucking expensive

Why is life such suffering
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>>70572197
>asks for full-size
>recommends cuck-sized soi shit
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>>70574212
The only real differences between linears are varying degrees of smoothness, stem wobble, and spring weight.
Contactless sensing switches would be the smoothest of the bunch, think optical or hall effect. The downside is that these require specialized PCBs.
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>>70574212
linearchads rise up
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>>70574212
No my friend, you are based and redspilled.
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>>70540925
I'm typing this on a varmilo keyboard with clears. it's pretty lit if i do say so myself
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>>70569858
basically get any split board and use half.
keeb.io has some good options like the bfo9000 or quefrency. I've been using a gat brown xd75 for games and the ortholinear layout is pretty good
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dfasf
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What's a non-cherry but cherry stem silent alternative to cherry blues
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>>70577166
nothing. there's no such thing as a silent clickey switches. You can have silent tactile and linear switches tho
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>>70577191
Yeah, I'm aware, but arent clicky just tactile switches with sound?
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>>70577210
So any brown clone?
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https://play.typeracer.com/
post results
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What's the best place in Burgerland to buy those "bumper rings"? The little black bands that shorten the throw....
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>>70577210
Depends on the switch
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>>70577597
Amazon, but if you're scared of Amazon, go to a hardware store, take a keycap with you, and look for the smallest O rings you can find.
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>>70577597
Any hardware store should have o-rings
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>>70577634
>>70577635
Thanks.
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>>70577210
Sort of. If you want dampened MX-style tactiles and don't mind a very small tactile bump, look at Gateron silent browns or Aliaz switches. If you want a bigger bump, you'll have to shell out for Zilents.
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Anyone here used KBD75? Or should I wait for KBD8X mk2? The problem is, I like both TKL and 75% layout.
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>>70577966
It depends on whether or not you like having the separation between your nav cluster, F keys, and alpha cluster. I use a 65% which is in essense a 75% less F keys, and the smooshed together layout took a little getting used to but I came to really like it. If you don't feel like spending a little time to readjust, wait for the 8X II, if you value the (admittedly minimal) space saved, then the 75 will be fine so long as you don't mind spending a little time with it to readjust so a slightly nonstandard layout.
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>mfw nobody makes big-ass/asian enter keyboard anymore
I know they're not standard and hard to find keycaps for and all that shit but I just want a big ol' enter key to press.
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>>70537702
>Budget
Around 100€ preferably, 150€ might be my hard limit
>Location (continent at least)
Germany
>Preferred switch type
Currently using blacks. I tried typing on the razer green ones which felt nice, but I don't know which cherry ones that would translate to.
>Layout
Always used ISO so far
>Form factor
Full, but tenkeyless would be an option
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Current one is a Steelseries 6Gv2

I know it's a gaymer keyboard I am using, but at the time of purchase, there was almost no alternative here in Germany without importing. Had it for over 8 years now, but just cleaned it yesterday and the plate beneath the keys starts to rust, mainly because I had scratched it a few times when cleaning it. I would probably just rebuy it if it was still easily available, but I don't mind branching out. I'm also less averse to import now, but would prefer if I didn't have to.
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>>70578777
Horrible.
I use linear switches (blacks with 62g springs) as my daily driver, but I think silvers are awful. The higher actuation combined with the lighter weight means you misstype constantly, and the higher actuation doesn't even help for gaming unless you need to double tap. They're less scratchy than their Cherry counterparts but otherwise retain all the stupid shit.
If you're just after the shorter travel, get choc reds, avoid silvers.
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>>70579535
I'm looking for a good vidya linear switch for vidya

choc reds? don't think I've heard of them
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>>70579543
All switches are usable for vidya.
If you want the standard "gaymer" switch get gateron/kailh reds.
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>>70579567
regular reds, or box reds?
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>>70578415
Dell still makes them to cater to the old boomers
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>>70579582
Box reds are arguably better but they're harder to find in a prebuilt keyboard.
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>>70579634
thank you very much
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>>70579582
Just get regular mx reds. You can get them in better boards for less money. You can get a PBT Doubleshot board like a Ducky One for like $90. I have box reds and mx reds on my desk right now and can't tell the difference.
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>>70547982
Just use swerty.
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>>70578777
For vidya they're fucking great, although I only use them on WASD because I like some tactile feedback on other keys so I put in bronzes.
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>>70580358
doesn't the difference in feeling throw you off when typing?
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>>70580419
It's in a dedicated pad, I don't type on it. I wouldn't type on speed switches period, to be fair.
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>>70580532
got a pic of it, by any chance?
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>>70540098
What's with the suica card? Souvenir? Everyone can tell that you're in Murica
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>>70580547
Here's an old an poorly lit one. I've been meaning to add switch leds for ages but still haven't gotten around to it.
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>>70580668
looks pretty awesome
did you build it, or did you buy it somewhere?
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>>70580547
>>70580668
Oh here's a slightly less horrible one
>>70580680
It's a YMDK pad, hold on
https://aliexpress.com/item/penispad/32812732361.html
That's the one. You can buy it assembled but I chose the kit to have the freedom to fuck about with the keycaps, leds, and switches. If you know exactly what you want though you can probably get the chinks to do it for you, just ask
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>>70580735
thank you, my dude
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>>70580745
No problem. Having a small pad I can reposition completely freely is so much more comfy than using a large and bulky keyboard, not to mention of course the tailored switches. (The left column are box jades, by the way.)
The only downside is the lack of a fifth row, which can make some button-heavy games awkward, but I've searched far and wide for a decent 5*6 pad and sadly not found anything so far.
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>hop on the mechanical train a few years ago
>$150
>A key fading/looked like shit in two days
I'm still mad, didn't give a shit about brown switches either. Been using the same dell keyboard for over a decade, I want to upgrade but I just get so fucking mad because I start to think of the incident. Think I'm just going to buy the same dell KB on amazon... no LED gaymen TKL for me I guess.
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>>70581019
You can just get keycaps that aren't trash. Anything doubleshot will never wear out, and dye sublimation is really durable too. Lasered, pad printed, and other printing methods are generally trash and will end up wearing off relatively quickly.
Also ABS plastic yellows, PBT does not.
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>>70581019
Keycaps are easily replaceable. You bought a keyboard with shitty ABS keycaps. Nowadays you can buy PBT doubleshot keycaps (that will never wear off) for $30.
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Is there any good source for replacement keycaps for a Cooler Master Quickfire TK? I got a second hand one for £10 with a few keycaps missing in otherwise fantastic condition, but the only listings for replacement caps are on ebay for like £3.50 per cap, which is fucking ridiculous, I stuck some generic blank ones on for the time being
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>>70581501
Blank caps would look better, fuck these gayman companies and their boner for wide transformer style letters.
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>>70581019
>he bought a 150$ keyboard without PBT caps
lmao, was it a razer?
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>>70544821
zealios or topre
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>>70581501
Go have a look at those sets on KBDfans with modifiers in various sizes and extra numpad keys.
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Should I buy linjar switches or retooled blacks

Is the wobble on gaterons really that signifigant?
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Fucking make a new thread.
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>>70582459
you do it
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>>70582471
not your personal army lol
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New Thread
>>70582544
>>70582544
>>70582544
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>>70545041
fuck wasd keyboards.
never again.
the v3 firmware isn't done and they're selling them as if they were finished products. no support for dvorak or colemak (even though both are explicitly listed on their website) and no way to program any keys.
fuck wasd keyboards. never again.
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>>70568433
That's not what's happening, pay attention.
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>>70543195
how to spot a gafwen

you've probably never even seen the old asian lady driver.



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