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Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds; click on blue titles to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs
>i7 8700/K or i7 9700K - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti
>R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p
>8GB RX 570, RX 580, and GTX 1060 6GB are standard choices
>GTX 1660Ti or RTX 2060 for very high framerates if you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>RTX 2060 is standard
>RTX 2080 for very high framerates if you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2080 is standard
>RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless
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Previous >>70156766
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Any ATX cases with this aesthetic?
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who's waiting for Navi in here?
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>>70166062
For me it didn't seem to be.
Here is 1660Ti vs my 960 >>70165166

And pic related is 2060 vs 960.


for a $50-60 price savings it didn't seem worth it.
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Should I get this second hand for 635$?
Ryzen 2600x
Asus Rog Strix B350-F
Nvidia GTX 950(It will work for now, I guess.)
Corsair RM550x
SanDisk Plus 240GB
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200
Fractal Design Meshify C
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>>70166315
If the system works and isn't very old it seems like a pretty good deal. You can always put the parts into PCpartpicker and see how much they are brand new and then make a decision. Meshify Fractal cases are usually pretty nice too.
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>>70166347
The thing is that I'm not sure if 2600x is bad compared to 2700x. I don't want to buy a soon to be obsolete cpu. Though yeah, the computer seems really well(its bought in aug 2018) and its parts are actually not some offbrand chink shits but quality ones. Though I'm still not sure.
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>>70166387
2600x is absolutely fine. It's slightly faster than the 2700 at the cost of higher TDP and heat. 2600x is an absolutely fine CPU. As is the 2600 which I'd still recommend you'd get if it was in that package.
2600x to 2700x difference is negligible other than the 2700x is more efficient and has more cores or something.
Ultimtely it comes down to like .1 or .2 GMhz between them both stock and OC'd.
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>>70166315
Not if you don't want to put some more money to upgrade it. Pricewise it is fair, but overall a shit build. You could do better for $635.
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>>70166387
>Ryzen
>Just came out
>Worried about bing obsolete
I've been using this for 10 years and I play all modern games at 60fps you wimp.
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>>70166425
is 2600x fine with stock cooler? ive seen some people it runs hot
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>>70166438
>You could do better for $635.
Can you help me on that, video card is the least important to me for now.
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>>70166453
Yes it runs hot. Yes it's fine with stock cooler because you're not going to be an idiot and attempt to OC it with the stock cooler. If you want to OC a 2600x or 2700x you need to get a Noctua or an AIO watercooler minimum.
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>>70166022
So does the 1660 replace the 1060 6gb on the OP now or?
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>>70166460
No, I don't care about Oc'ing it. Just worried about it dying faster because of the heat.
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>>70166509
It's designed that way. The x stands for it being factory overclocked and comes with a better cooler than the 2600 to compensate for it. Will it die in like 5 years? No. I'm not sure why you're panicking about this. It's just a CPU sold by a manufacturer who use good materials and techniques in making it. These things will last much longer than any chips before them.
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>>70166456
Oh, if you don't care about vidya, that isn't a bad build then. You just aren't going to be playing anything other than Dwarf Fortress on it with a 950
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>>70166527
I care about vidya but the 950 will do fine for a few months.
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>>70166506
yes pretty much.
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Im considering building my first decent pc and would like some help from people that know what they are doing, is this good?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m389D2
budget is around $1500
im planning on using it for muh gaymes, video editing, etc.
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>>70166527
So what should I get minus the GPU.
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>>70166695
Seems fine. I'd check to see whether the stock 2600x cooler is better or worse than your chosen after market cooler. Why do you have 2 SSD's? You save like milliseconds on load times with an ssd. It's really not worth it. Get a high rpm 2tb or 4tb drive and just use that.
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>>70166742
>You save like milliseconds on load times with an ssd


Comparing SSD to M.2 NVMe SSD, sure.

Comparing HDD to SSD however is miles difference.


You can see loading times cut in half in some cases.
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>>70166748
Bullshit. And if a 30 second load timer turns into a 15 minute one is it worth fucking spending a couple of hundred bucks for it? Probably fucking not. If you wanna waste your cash then buy it. Or you could not be a huge retard and get a good HDD for cheaper and put the cash elsewhere.
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>>70166742
>Why do you have 2 SSD's?
because the example build i the op had that, honestly
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>>70166695
Don't buy 2 ssds. Just get the m.2 one for now, and use the savings to get a 1440p monitor. Your build is 1440p ready, so might as well use it.
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>>70166775
>Bullshit
Where have you been for the last decade?

In 2019, ANY drive you're installing applications, games, etc to, should be an SSD.

For data storage, obviously HDDs make sense. But for programs? SSDs all the way.
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>>70166804
>adobe
>excel
>photoshop
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>70166775
Pls everyone ignore this retard. SSDs for operating systems and vidya is absolutely worth it.
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>>70166815
>>70166804
Op trying his best not to look like a fucking retard.
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>>70166828
lmao, retard
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>>70166791
>Just get the m.2 one for now
so should i get the 256gb one or upgrade it to the 512gb one?
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>>70166022
What do when windows bluescreens on startup on brand new hardware with only the bear essentials plugged in? I've tried to reinstall it multiple times, but no help.
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>>70166837
>that awful color scheme
>f12
HMMMM
I bet next there' will be two posts at exactly the same time professing they're different people.
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>>70166846
Honestly, ignore that retard.

M.2 NVMe SSD for boot and programs and SATA SSD for games.
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>>70166846
256gb. You just need your OS, and most played games on it. If you find you need more, you can always buy a second drive later. But I have had a 256gb ssd + 3tb in hdds for years now.
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>>70166861
why are you agreeing with him?
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>>70166860
here is a WEBM for you with me refreshing the page to reload everything just to prove it.

Turns out, when you're a fucking retard, multiple people are willing to call you out on it.
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>>70166861
A 1440p monitor is going to be better than 512gb extra storage space.
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>>70166887
Who?

The retard saying to buy one? I'm not.
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>>70166889
>shows nothing except that he's hovering because he can't webm properly
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>70166861
NVME SSDs don't actually boot faster because they run off the PCIe interface which needs a moment longer to initalize. You can do it but it serves you no purpose on startup, and I'd guess that having windows on the faster NVME also doesn't make a difference in response.
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>>70166896
Take your final (you) and leave the thread while you can.
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>>70166902
it does make a difference in response, especially for heavy applications like adobe shit.

If you're a normie that does literally nothing with their computer, i guess it wouldn't matter
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>>70166909
Thanks for conceding to me faggot.
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>>70166918
Which OS is "adobe shit" a part of you dumb fuck? Didn't come with my windows installation.
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>>70166896
huh? the webm looks exactly how he's describing.
He refreshed the page in the first second of the WEBM, then he hovered over to show it was obviously not messed around with locally by inspecting the page in chrome or whatever.
I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to imply with this post, you just look stupid.
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>>70166930
Are you retarded?
>>70166861
>M.2 NVMe SSD for boot and programs

I said boot AND PROGRAMS

Adobe would fall under PROGRAMS

do you need mental help?
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>>70166932
>he
Oooo caught you out again didn't I fag.
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Whats the difference between 16gb of ram and 32gb of ram and does it make any difference?
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>>70166938
>imagine being this paranoid
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>>70166955
Nothing unless you are doing something that specifically requires a lot of RAM. And if you were, you'd know.
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>>70166963
>editing this much
>actually making a webm that doesn't show shit
>being this mad
I love it.
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>>70166974
If you think the WebM doesn't show anything then do yourself a favor.

Edit the (you) next to this post to remove it.
THEN refresh the page
Is the (you) back? Congrats, now you know why you look like a retard here.
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>>70166988
HAHAHAHAHA!
Damn fag you mad as hell? first time on the board lil fagboy?
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>>70167003
>i'm just pretending to be retarded in order to troll you guys, how mad are you!? LELELELEL

You must pretend to be retarded a lot, you've gotten good at it.


Or maybe, you're actually just a retard and can't even realize it.
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>>70167012
It's like arguing with conservatives, it doesn't matter if you're right, even if you prove you're right, just by replying he "wins" because he never planned on being right to begin with.
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>>70167012
Nah fag. Your webm doesn't show shit. And it's only you that's replying. Which is funny to me. You jewish? You sound like this is the first time you've been caught out and called out as a huge fucking liar. Jew.
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>>70166892
but arent the 6gb vram going to fuck me in 1440p?
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>>70167030
Do you see the dotted orange and solid orange lines on the left-hand side of each post?

Those denote replies TO me, and replies FROM me.

The post you're claiming is me, is NOT one of those.

This is not something I can edit particularly easily since it's burried in 4chanx/oneechan.


If you still want to insist that's me, go right ahead retard. I'm done arguing with a moron too stupid to realize he's been proven wrong twice.
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>>70167036
Yup, but fuck SSDs
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>>70167067
>the jew attempts to continue to lie by html fiddling
AHAHAHAH come on son. Listen. I know it's in your nature, your blood to lie. Because you're a coward and cowards can't face up to people. It's alright. Just some people are cowards and you are too.
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>>70167036
Wont even fuck you in 4k.
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>>70167075
Nigga, you can't even edit that shit in HTML like that, at least I have no idea how to, it's FAR more complicated than just deleting a (you).

Also, jewish? You nazis really need to calm down with that shit, jews make up a tiny part of the population yet somehow anyone you disagree with is suddenly so jewish you'd think they were a majority religion.
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>>70167096
>I don't know how to goyim trust me
Why are you jews such prolific liars? Why can't you just be honest for once and not be a coward? I'm honestly interested in what it is at the genetic level that makes you a weak person.
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>shitting up the thread arguing about who's the bigger retard
>don't realize they're both equally retarded
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take a room retards
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>>70167118
If you know how to do it, show me.

Here is the code for the post box, go ahead and show me there where I would delete the orange line next to the post. I'll wait.
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>>70167126
Equally retarded? Ehhhh, I think one is for sure leaning more retarded than the other. Both retarded for sure though.
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>>70167135
>Huuuurrr I dunno!
>IM JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED ANON
No but seriously. Why are you a coward? Do you sweat when you think about confrontation? Why do you lie to people? Is it because you're weak. Yeah... Yeah I think it's because you're a weakling now that I'm talking to you.
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>>70167168
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>>70167036
No. There is basically no game you wont get at least 60fps at 1440p with a 1660.
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Best HDD manufacturer for longevity?
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>>70167135
>>70167239
Why did you continue to argue with him? Are you stupid?
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>>70166022 (OP)
OP revision
1080p
>RX 570 8GB for value with good performance
>GTX 1660 is standard
>RTX 2060 for very high framerates if you have a CPU and monitor to match

>>70166506
Basically yes. I'll be updating the OP as written above. Seems a little awkward so I might revamp the format
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>>70167262
Is the 1660 out yet?
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>>70167293
Yes, it's definitely on US newegg for 225
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>>70167179
Jews gonna be cowardly wimps who can't take being called liars. Just like you kid.
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>>70167072
>>70167079
>>70167212
So what 1440p monitor can i get without getting jewed out? i suppose 75hz is okay?
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>>70167235
HGST or Hitachi. But mostly, if a HDD is going to fail, it fails early or years later

>>70167036
No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfnzHA3-MhM

>>70166861
>>70166783
I agree (as OP, full disclosure), because it's often helpful to have two physical drives instead of a single physical or multiple logical
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I have my PC connected to my computer and television. I would like to be able to sit on my couch and use headphones with televisions. What kind of equipment would let me broadcast audio from my pc to a receiver that I mount on my couch that I can plug headphone into?
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>>70167332
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/27--chg70-gaming-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lc27hg70qqnxza/
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WP5nLFMk8
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>>70167375
nothing affordable with the latency you want.
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>>70167400
>https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/27--chg70-gaming-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lc27hg70qqnxza/
>800 bucks in my country
wew lad
>also yes my country is a shithole
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RX580 for 180 euros
or 1660 for 235.

Or should I just stretch my budget and get a 1660ti? Gaming at 2560x1080.
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>>70167478
1660ti would behoove you.

2560x1080 is ~30% more pixels than 1080.
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>>70167365
>HGST or Hitachi. But mostly, if a HDD is going to fail, it fails early or years later
TY
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Sapphire Vega 56 for €320 or MSI 1660Ti for €315?
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>>70166695
here's what I would do
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qmz6WD
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>>70167645
1660ti, no question.
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Isn't the rx 580 still worth it just for the two free games that come with it?
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I'm planning on building a computer for gaming, I mostly play paradox games such as EU4, CK2 etc. It's something I have only recently started researching, so if you are going to reply calling me a faggot and telling me how shit this plan is at least give some feedback on what I should do better.
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>>70166443
I have a similar build but upgraded to an Xeon W3690 for £42 recently, now it flys.
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>>70167661
forgot to take off wifi card. the mobo has wifi
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>>70167699
>going incel
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>>70167699
get a gigabyte ud or elite based on your budget. maybe get a ud board and replace 1060 with 1660ti? don't know euro prices
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Hello /pcbg/, pastabro here.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2LTw4q
This is want I wanna build, but, and I'm already hearing boos, I still didn't pick a monitor.
I wanted a decent one, 1080p with 144hz. I looked at MSI Optix MAG241C, but maybe you have better suggestions in mind.
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>>70167765
*gigabyte ud or elite mobo
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>>70166315
Uhhhh uh can get better NEW with an RX570 for around $650, as linked in the last thread. The Thermaltake G3 build.

That seems worth maybe $450. The SSD and GPU are worth pretty much nothing.

Why not just buy a used GPU and buy the rest new? That'd probably come out to $500-$550.

>>70166506
1060 has been terrible value for over a year and not worth buying.
1060 never should have been in the OP if it was except for people in SEA and shit with loony prices.
1660Ti and 1660 are better.

1660 tends to be slightly above or below the RX590. Depends whether you want the games or not.

>>70167036
>arent the 6gb vram going to fuck me in 1440p?
Yes.

People telling you otherwise are the same shill faggots who said 3Gb was enough for 1080p 3 years ago when that garbage doesn't even get 20fps 1% minimums in some cases.

There's already a few games which want more than 6Gb at 1440p now. And there will be even more over the next console generation.
They're trying to trick you into having to upgrade your GPU in another year or two and hoping you're dumb enough to buy another planned obsolescence Nvidia GPU like that yet again.

>>70166783
>>70166742
2 SSD are fine.

NVMe for a scratch disk, or to use with StoreMi to increase the speed and longevity of your large SSD.

Anon has Ryzen so can use StoreMi after all.

>>70167478
Don't get ultrashort. It's trash.
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>>70167765
>>70167790
Why those motherboards?
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>>70167769
Zotac is my favorite brand, but you can get a gpu with a higher boost clock for only $20 more (msi ventus). you could go with the wd 1 tb m2, which is roughly have the price of the samsung and get a case with better airflow. I'd get a seasonic psu. the optix looks pretty nice desu
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Rate my £1500 build pls.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mvFs3b
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>>70167827
better vrm and durability, but I guess you don't have to worry about that with a 9400f, although you probably don't want to buy a new mobo just to upgrade from the 9400f
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Today i got my new monitor. Its a Lenovo P27q, is my IPS glow unusually bad and if so should i get it replaced? It looks brighter in the pic then in IRL but den difference between bright spots and the normal dark in the middle is proportional to how it looks IRL. The most annoying part is the upper left
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>>70167671
I'm looking at benchmarks and they seem to be about equal, with the Vega being better at many of the games I play. Any reason you said "no question" as if the 1660Ti was unquestionably and vastly superior? I heard the Vega cards require a lot of fiddling or some shit
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>>70167885
>is my IPS glow unusually bad
It looks pretty bad there, but it really just depends if you can notice it in real world situations.


I for example, don't use my desktop without having various desk lamps turned on, this means it's pretty rare for me to every notice ANY IPS glow just due to the ambient brightness level.
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>>70167900
Not having to deal with AMD is easily worth any sort of performance hit in the games you might play.
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>>70167858
How do you spend so much money on a 75hz 1080p build? And also only have a 250Gb SSD for all that money?

>>70167699
Get a secure and better CPU and better GPU. You were told this already.

>>70167885
That is awful wtf.
Why didn't you get a good monitor instead?
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>>70167915
Why would I want any more than 250gb for booting?
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>>70167885
better pic of it helps
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>>70167862
Does the rest of that parts all seem ok for gaming at a decent level?. I'm not doing anything extreme I just want it to run smoothly.
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>>70166150
It isn't the worst. 2060 is still decent value if you don't overmind paying a little. Maybe, just maybe, raytracing won't be complete garbage in the future.
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>>70167811
Do you sleep for 4 hours and then come back to shill really hard for amd every day? Or do you have a team of akd pajeets and you guys take shifts using the same name?
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>>70167947
yeah that's about the only reason i could think of why someone would spend more for the 2060, is if they really wanted ray tracing support with the idea it would be useful down the road.
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>>70167858
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xJrv9J
I'd do this instead
>>70167939
don't know about the case or psu, but it looks fine to me
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>>70167913
I've been using AMD for the last three years with barely any issues
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>>70167645
>>70167900
The person telling you 1660ti over Vega56 is just an unabashed shill and troll.

Vega56 is MUCH higher performance than the 1660Ti. It's in a whole nother league as a 1440p card.
The 1660Ti is between the RX590 and Vega56 and mostly just has power efficiency going for it.

Also AMD drivers are actually better than Nvidia's for more than the past year. That's another thing they fume about and try so hard to obfuscate. Nvidia's have gotten far worse and AMD's have gotten far better.

>>70167928
Why would you want applications to load slow and hang from loading, textures to pop in and games, games to disconnect from loading too slow like PoE, etc?

Do you seriously boot multiple times a day so faster booting is all you need? That's a fuckload of money for a PC you just use for web browsing. But even fucking web browsing is slow on a HDD lmao.

>>70167955
Why don't you ask this to the people blatantly shilling Intel and Nvidia when it's worse for the use case?
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>>70167984
could you put on a trip code? It would be bad if someone impersonated you.
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>>70167957
I mean, if you want a little more performance without getting completely jewed on with a 2070, it is about the only card you can buy right now. Personally, I'd go for a 2060, even though 1660 Ti is better value.
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>>70167963
Noctua's are fine, but they look shit. Once you chroma it out, you're spending more than you'd pay for an all in one. Fully Chroma Noctua's look great, but at 30 each for black fans and another 30 for the white heat sink covers it's not worth it.
>>70167984
I use a HDD now for games and an SSD for booting and don't have slow applications, hang from loading or texture pop ins. I've used SSD for gaming before and didn't notice much of a difference. So no thanks I don't need a bigger SSD.
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>>70167984
>Vega56 is MUCH higher performance than the 1660Ti.
Not according to any real data. >>70166549 ~10% performance difference
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>>70167965
Same here, but with constant issues.

HD 5850, R9 390.

Both had tons of issues but everyone told me when I was looking to get a new GPU in 2015 that AMD was better than it was back in 2009.

They were wrong, ended up dropping the 390 during the mining craze and picked up a 1070. Haven't looked back.
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>>70168015
yeah i'm an autist so I reccomend without thinking about aesthetic. Although I don't think it's within pcbg's domain to reccomend a certain aesthetic, I get that it has value
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>>70168034
https://babeltechreviews.com/the-gtx-1660-ti-oc-showdown-vs-the-rx-vega-56-rx-590/3/
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>>70168089
My 390 ran like a fucking champ, maybe you shouldn't get cards from terrible OEMs.
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>>70168108
>terrible OEMs
Lmao, Asus?
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>>70168097
Noctuas are probably the best fans around at the moment and are probably better than AIO. But I think they personally make them look like shit with beige so people will get the overpriced chroma fans and heatsink covers. If I had the cash wiggle room I'd go for a nice fat Chroma Noctua block in a heart beat. Aesthetic as fuck but too expensive.
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>>70168034
>~10% performance difference
Comparing an OC axial fan 1660Ti to reference blower Vega 56 because Nvidia has paid off so many reviewers to do that.
AIB Vega56 are about 10% higher. So ~20% difference.
1660Ti is about 20% above the RX590. So again, the 1660Ti is right about in the middle between the two.

Note that Nvidia also paid off reviewers to compare the 1660Ti to 1070 FE blower cards instead of AIB cards which also tend to be around 7-10% higher performance, making it look better compared to the 1070 as well.

Even babeltech used 1070 and vega56 reference blowers, but at least they did OC results as well which are more typical of AIB cards. You can see the 1660Ti well behind Vega, there.

>>70168113
Yeah ASUS makes a lot of terrible GPUs. Like their Dual model.
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>>70168089
Sorry to hear bro but my Sapphire 380X has been running pretty much flawlessly
I've had a few tiny problems with drivers (nothing that needed more than a few minutes or a reinstall to fix) but never with the hardware
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>>70168184
390 here. Same deal.
Returned the first card cause I thought there was a heating problem, but it turned out it was the CPU.
FX 9590 never had a chance to overheat until I upgraded my GPU lol.
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How good of a deal is a 380€ Vega 64 Strix in the year of our Lord 2019?
I feel my 2 fan GTX 1070 struggling with 144h 1440p and I want to put it quietly to sleep.
What would be the best alternative to dropping 700€ on an RTX 2080?
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>>70168284
Unironically, just wait. Up-/sidegrading from a 1070 is a really, really bad idea you'll regret later on. With that being sad, 380€ for Vega 64 is not a bad deal, depending on the model. So, if you really want to drop 400 bucks on a new GPU, go for it.
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>>70166022
Are ultra wide monitors a meme?
Wanted to get one instead of 2 monitors.
Can you play on an ultra wide on one side and watch youtube on the other side?
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>>70168348
>Are ultra wide monitors a meme?
yes. just get 2 monitors.
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>>70168354
but why are they a meme?
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>>70168354
>doesn't use 2 ultrawides
never gonna make it. I can shitpost without most of the text wrapping.
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>>70166695
ANON! Listen up! I have 1070ti (almost if not better than 1660ti) and 1440p monitor... I have hard time playing games at decent frames on high settings. If you really want better looking games at higher fps, get 1080p monitor. Not joking. To get 100fps+ in modern games I have to put everything on low.

tldr: 1440p resolution means more real estate (for editing and stuff), better looking, but is bad for gaming without an expensive card.
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>>70168342
>if you really want to drop 400 bucks on a new GPU, go for it.
I really don't. I wanted to sell my 1070 for around 300€ and then pay 500€ for a decent GPU or so , but it seems like the only GPU worth upgrading to is an 800€ RTX 2080. And there's no way I'm paying 800€ for a GPU.
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>>70168411
>>>11
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>>70168034
>pajeetpowerup
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I bought one of these because I needed more SATA ports for a new HDD. My computer sees it in BIOS, but not through my file explorer. diskmgmt.msc didnt see it either. Did I buy the wrong expansion card?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07868VM1Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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>>70168487
If Bios sees, it works. Try to format it in bios.
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>>70168487
Install drivers
Check device manager to make sure it's functioning properly

>>70168464
>it doesn't agree with me so they're pajeets :((((
Nice one, genius.

>>70168284
Bad, a V64 isn't much of an upgrade over a 1070. If you can hear the 1070 struggling, just think how happy you'll be when your PC generates enough lift to fly away when you start playing a game with the V64
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OH NO NO NO NO
$220 FOR A 20% FASTER 580
DRONES ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>70168668
Thanks anons. for whatever reason my drivers didnt install, and going to device manager fixed it.
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>>70168703
So what's left and what's right? These guys always confuse me.
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>>70168909
well it's a review of the 1660
so the difference is against the 590.

Higher is better for the 1660, lower is worse for the 1660.
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>>70168939
>well it's a review of the 1660
>so the difference is against the 590.
>Higher is better for the 1660, lower is worse for the 1660.
Why is hwu so retarded?
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>>70168703
It clearly comes down to whether someone wants the games or not. 590 and 1660 are similar price and performance. Just depends on what games are tested.
GN's review seems to show the 1660 like maybe 1% ahead of the 590 at 1080p and worse at 1440p. Though it does have more OC headroom.

DmC5 and RE2 are actually good games so the 590 is effectively more like $150 for anyone who can do basic math and budgeting.

>>70168909
>>70168967
As retarded as HWU is with their changing testing methodology every single week to make biased clickbait garbage, their graphs are clearly labeled.

Also, a fact that people like to hide, is that HWU do their own "special" non-benchmark benchmarks. Steve has found spots in the games where he just stands idle that get better FPS on Nvidia cards. That's why his GTAV result is such an outlier from others, for example. Not that built in benchmarks are always ever good, but his shit is worse.

>>70168284
V64 is slightly better than a 1080 but uses a bit more power.
There isn't much alternative to a 2080. Radeon VII is fairly loud, unless you want to replace the cooler yourself. The prices are pretty shit, though.
Can't you just turn down settings and JUST WAIT? Now is a terrible time to buy a $400+ GPU. The price/performance of them becomes worse than they've ever been in more than 2 decades of GPUs.

It's the 580, 590, 1660, 1660ti, 2060 which are stupidly close together. 1070 and Vega64 are pretty far apart, but when you already have a 1070 it's pretty eh.

>>70168408
You can turn settings down.
1440p on high settings is going to look better than 1080p ultra/max.
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>>70169051
>DmC5
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>>70169051
Hi Steve.
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>>70166695
after some thinking, ive changed some things to my build, here´s the changes.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dr6QHh
i do plan on buying a big ssd in the future, but in my country ssd and hddprices are royally fucked for some reason
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>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202327
Sapphire SE RX590 on sale for the price GN said it should come down to in order to match the 1660.
Comes with the 3 games.

>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814932030&ignorebbr=1
[GIGABYTE] Vega56 for $280 plus 3 games.
However, you'll need to replace the thermal paste. That's why the user reviews are so garbage for this Gigabyte model.

>>70169098
you caught me

>>70169170
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dr6QHh
>i do plan on buying a big ssd in the future,
What is your country?
I'd also recommend you just get a 1660Ti. It's not much slower than 2060 but a lot cheaper. Or Vega 56, but I'm guessing you don't have the same sales on them as EU and US.
Why the low profile cooler in the large case? wtf? Just get an Arctic Freezer 33.
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recommend me a 64gb usb3.0 stick that balances not being shit with not being overpriced
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>>70168158
Aright, here's stock to stock. ALL reference designs can achieve stock boost, whether blower or not; that's why they're called REFERENCE

>So ~20% difference.
Rating: False.
Evidence: pic related

Side note the difference is actually less than 10% because the basis value is 114%; therefore an additional 10% of that value would be 11.4%
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>>70169228
sadly, prices of most things are totally fucked here, i live in tacoland so the "3rd world shithole" tax limits my options for space and cooling, also the vega 56 is a no-no unless newegg global goes on sale because pic related
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>>70169248
Wow amd is screwed. 1650ti will soon drop and make the 570 worthless too
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>>70169228
>Sapphire SE RX590 on sale for the price GN said it should come down to in order to match the 1660.
Still not cheap enough $250 when the slightly faster 1660 (proof >>70169248) is at $225. The games are nice, but only if you want them. They're a pain in the butt to sell, especially since they're all attached to one rewards account.

>inb4 one fan
That's because the 1660 is 2.5X as power efficient as the 590. Actually then, rounding up, the RX 590 would need THREE fans to compete.

>inb4 your source proves me wrong so it's garbage :(((((
Get fucked, little dick.
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>>70169228
>Vega56 for $280 plus 3 games.
What the fuck, retard? I opened the link and it's at $440 plus 3 games
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>>70169248
>it's not fair that AIB Vega56 cards are so much better
>PLEEEEASE sir only look at reference blower Vega56 benchmarks WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN BUY THOSE CARDS ANYMORE
>IT'S NOT FAIR WHY WON'T ANYONE BUY MY BULLSHIT MANIPULATION
>Nvidia PowerUp results

AIB Vega 56 match the 1070Ti. They're the whole reason the 1070Ti came out.

>>70169299
Yeah I know sometimes it's cheaper for Mexicanons to import.
I'd just recommend looking at the 1660Ti instead of 2060. It's better value unless 2060 is disproportionately cheaper for you.

>>70169237
namebrand on alibaba

>>70169352
>$220 + 3 free games = $250
Imagine being this much of a brainlet to not know the difference between $220 and $250 yet replying anyway.
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Can anyone identify this card? Nothing on Newegg matches up.
https://i.imgur.com/4qh6QgF.png
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>>70169407
When I posted it, it was $280.
Too slow, jr.

>>70169441
It's EVGA. Probably a 1050/ti or lesser.
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>>70169409
>mfw i just checked and the difference for the 2060 and the 1660ti on the taco stand is more than 100 burgers
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fz6QHh
I just want something for linux computing and light gaming. I don't want to spend a lot of money and I don't intend to upgrade anytime soon.
1. Should I buy a CPU cooler?
2. How overkill is the monitor?
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>>70169409
The price said $250 when I first clicked on it. Even at $220 it's still a bad deal for the reasons outlined in my previous post: The 1660 is faster than the 590 and WAY, WAY more power efficient for an extra $5. And no I don't give a fuck about games that I don't want and are a bitch to sell.

Nice to see that you have nothing but greentext drivel and nitpicking to respond with. Get completely rekt
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>>70169468
>When I posted it, it was $280.
Yeah sure, liar
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AMD BTFO
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>>70169409
>source: my ass :^)
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>>70169485
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fz6QHh
>I just want something for linux computing and light gaming. I don't want to spend a lot of money and I don't intend to upgrade anytime soon.
That's pretty much the perfect build for your purpose.
Though if you're doing windows pass through, having a second SSD really makes virtualization A LOT easier.

You're going to be gaming at really low settings at that resolution. Might even have to play some at 1920x1200 even on low-medium settings.
But obviously the APU can run desktop at that resolution perfectly fine.

>>70169471
$70 dif USA, and at $70 dif, 25%, the 2060 is really bad value in the US as it is imo.
Seems like 1660Ti would be better for you.

>>70169491
I looked again after you said $250 and it still says $220. Hard refresh and it's still $220.
$220 and $280 according to these posts as well https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/b0xlhl/gpu_sapphire_nitro_rx_590_se_21999_3_free_games/
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/b0zc5p/gpu_gigabyte_radeon_rx_vega_56_3_games_280/
Though the Gigabyte on went up after I posted it here.
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>>70169597
>links r*ddit threads and posts r*ddit memes
Kill yourself
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>>70169597
Like I said, even at $220 the 590 is a bad buy for these reasons >>70169491. You're up a shit creek without a paddle.
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>>70169597
guess ill stick with this instead, thanks anon
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nqb2sZ
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>>70169637
wait i forgot to change the cooler
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BMwYD2
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>>70169485
Poo friend, save some cash. Don't get a 1440 monitor since you won't be able to run games on it at that resolution at 60fps anyway. Get a nice 1080 in 24 or 27inch, put the saved cash into a reasonable GPU.
Came up with this. It's a hundred bucks more expensive though. If you really need wifi just get a cheapo thing. 60 bucks for a wifi pci card seems ridiculous.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdrMWD
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>>70169628
>i live in my mom's basement and only pirate games. No one could possibly want DmC5 and RE2 included.

>>70169637
>>70169660
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151186get this PSU instead. Hurry before it ends, though, so you don't turn into a shitposting smeglord for missing a sale like those raging anons above. It's been on sale for like 3 days so will probably end soon.
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>>70169717
For actual WORK, I really wouldn't recommend lower than 1920x1200.
It really depends what games pooanon is going to play. It'll run 2D games and CSGO and shit at that resolution fine. Even Dota2 and shit at low settings, afaik.
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>>70169725
I pirated both of those single player games. Youre a retard to buy a 590 and justify by getting these games. But shilling so hard its pathetic
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>>70169725
I sure as hell don't want DM5. RE2 I'd want but I have a backlog so I don't want it now. I'll buy it later for cheap
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>>70169743
1920x1080 is perfectly fine amdfag. When you get into weird resolutions and aspect ratios you can run into problems with games which is what happened when I got a 3440x1440 screen and none of my old games would run and the new ones had UI and other issues. 1080 is fucking fine for a good gaming experience.
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>>70169725
>sorry, we cant find this item
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>>70167843
What case do you suggest?
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>>70169725
video game codes for video cards are always the titles that publishers invested too much money into and need to inflate sales numbers for their shareholders
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>>70169748
Sorry, but I don't pirate games; if it's not worth buying, it's not worth playing. So your "advice" doesn't apply to me and many other anons. Insisting it does makes you an even more tremendous retard than you've already exposed yourself to be.
Some might want The Division 2 as well. I found it to be trash, but whatever.

If you haven't noticed (since you've intentionally blinded yourself to it), I DO recommend the 1660 and 1660Ti. They are good cards and reasonably priced. I just also recommend the 590 as well for anyone who cares more about the included games than the higher power consumption.

>>70169771
without the get at the end. Missed a space. Seasonic Focus Gold 650W on Newegg.

>>70167769
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2LTw4q
>case
Your whole build is fairly bad.
No reason to get a 9400 over an R5 2600 when the 2600 is secure, will handle background processes better, has a longer living platform,
No reason for that NVMeme. You can get a 1Tb regular SSD which you won't be able to tell a speed difference in outside of scratch disk usage for half the price.
Get a better quality PSU. That Focus Gold is $16 more for a far better one.
If you're getting a wifi card, get an actual good one (which are around $80). Instead of a cheap one, you're better off just getting a board with wifi built in for even cheaper for the same shit.

Thermaltake G3 and Fractal Meshify C are two of my favorite cases. Silverstone makes many good ones as well.
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>>70169717
>>70169743
The monitor is mostly for work and study as I want to be able to read pdfs and websites side-by-side without splitting them across two monitors.
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>>70169770
this is what you always sound like fanboys that literally do not understand how to use a computer telling people why their completely uninformed choice was better
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>>70169877
You're going to have to make a decision. Either get a single screen for gaming or get two cheap 1080 screens. In either case I wouldn't go 1440 since you just can't utilize it well. You wanna play cyberpunk? Well guess what you have to play it on low because your rig doesn't handle that resolution particularly well and even then you'll get stutter and ghosting because the frame rate fluctuates and your monitor isn't able to regulate itself to it.
>>70169882
Why'd you take your trip off?
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>>70169770
>1920x1080
You don't work, so what would you know?
Professionals rarely use 1080p. Some exceptions were back in the 90s when it was bleeding edge before professionals adopted 1920x1200 instead as 1080p was a downgrade for programming and some other cases over 1600x1200.
>Weird resolutions
More content and software has been made on 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 than your squashed brain can even dream of.
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>>70169875
well, its not on sale anymore or nto on newegg global, still, thanks anon
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>>70169924
>Professionals
He's not a professional or he wouldn't be buying an 850 dollar rig. You seem to get really upset when people don't agree with you. I've been wide screen gaming for 10 years. Got my first triple screen in 09 and have moved onto 21:9 aspect for a while now. There are problems with games even today in non 16:9 aspect ratios. The fact you don't know this makes it obvious you don't play at wide screen and therefore shouldn't be advising people on it. You can continue to get mad if you like I'm honestly not that impressed.
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>>70169957
Someone can still do professional work without having "made it". They could also not be purchasing more than they need. A 2400G, 16Gb of RAM, and a good sized SSD can be all someone really needs for a lot of workloads while it's the resolution of monitor to work on that really matters a lot more. It absolutely makes more sense to spend more on monitor than PC in such a case.

Why do you make so many (ignorant) assumptions while being so rude to people who have been nice?
I only call people retards after they've shown themselves to be retards; that's different.
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>>70170019
You've not been nice. You're acting like a little prick Mehmet. He's probably not a professional. If he is he's buying a completely wrong monitor for a professional setup. If he wants professional setups for editing he needs to be spending considerably more on a monitor. And I specifically mentioned gaming to him which seems to be what he's talking about. You will not be able to game properly at that resolution. Going outside of 16:9 is a bad idea for gaming. If you're going to be using the machine as a work machine then he needs to spend probably double or triple on the monitor for good true color representation if it's in a visual field. He didn't mention that. Everything I've said is factual. You just don't like it because I'm right. This is your last (you) because honestly my respect for you has taken a nose dice. Try to learn not to be such an anus when people disagree with you who have more experience than you on a topic.
t. Someone who actually does professional photography and editing
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>>70169875
you do realize when you talk like this it just makes it really obvious to everyone that you are being paid far more than your time is worth

nothing is worth paying for if you can get it for free. if you have some sense of ethical superiority over people who don't waste their time, and by extension money, then perhaps the issue is not in the ethics of the behavior but in your perception of your own value of your work and how it is at the whim of market forces much like that of software developers rather than some kind of ethical framework
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>>70166022
What’s a decent atx motherboard that won’t disable any sata ports after an m.2 is installed?
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>>70170193
asus is probably the best atm. gigabyte and liars but there boards are alright.
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>>70169924
anon I'm working as a dev right now using two 1080p monitors just fine
it's way better than just ONE high res monitor
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>>70170019
>>70170080
Alright guys, thanks for your input. I'll go with the high-res monitor for productivity, and I might buy a cheap 1080 as a backup/gaming monitor. Much obliged.
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>>70165207
Sorry for the late reply, but thanks for the advice.
I'm going to sit on it for a few days and decide if I want to take that risk to save $40. Either, way, I appreciate you taking the time to help out a simple question like mine!
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>>70170193
It shouldn't disable the sata ports. It will use the sata express capability and remove the express capability from the sata express port on the mb.
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>>70169951
huh, i see, it ran out, is the platinum one overkill?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151192
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Wouldn't the 580 still be better than the 1660 since the 580 performs nearly identically to the 1660 and has 2GB more VRAM?
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>>70170280
20% is not nearly identical
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>>70170095
I'm glad you realize I can command a high salary, even if you think it's more than I'm worth. That has really brightened my day, Anon.

>>70170221
Why is the choice between 2560x1600 and 1080p x2?
I use one 2560x1600 and one 4K. Going to add another 4k and put the 2560x1600 in portrait mode once I find a good primary 4K monitor, though.
>>70170222
based

>>70167769
>>70170261
Overkill is relative.
It's more apt to say like... a 2080Ti for 1080p is overkill. You'll be way over the framerate limit of your monitor, or a game is just going to be engine limited to not run the GPU at 99%+.
But for things like how much storage you have, and specs of the PSU, it's more relative to various needs.
But when looking at $100+ PSUs, I'd be looking at fanless. That's what makes it worthwhile, is lowering noise.
You could also go the SFF route... SFX PSUs are pricier, but being smaller form factor is nice. Thermaltake G3 uses SFX PSU. I use a SFX PSU with a SFX-to-ATX adapter bracket with my Silverstone FT-02 in order to make the cable routing cleaner.
Pic related, though outdated.

>>70170280
RX580 performs 10-20% weaker.
The 8Gb of VRAM doesn't matter in 1080p. 6Gb is fine for 1080p.
But for a budget build, yeah you can find 580s for like $180 or less plus the games so that makes sense for someone who doesn't care about running everything maxed.
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>>70170323
>The 8Gb of VRAM doesn't matter in 1080p. 6Gb is fine for 1080p.
Even for 1440p, 6GB is fine.

4k is where 6GB will fall apart though.
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>>70170323
Because I'm not going to spend a shitton of money just for hi res if I can code all right in 1080p
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WTF AMDBROS How can NVIDIA kill the RX 580 with the 1660???? This isn't fair! Next thing you'll tell me is that the 1650 will kill the 570!
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>>70170323
i see, but buying the gold + one at 750w also seems like overkill, but having that full modular is tempting, ill wait and see if theres a restock for the 650w one
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>>70170323
>I'm glad you realize I can command a high salary
>$8.50/hr is a high salary

>being paid by time >>70170095
>salary

tl;dr: it's obvious to everyone you're a lowagie
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>>70170363
No, 6Gb is not enough for EVERYTHING in 1440p. A few games do currently use more.
Consistent performance matters, not just averages.
It's really going to struggle when the next generation of console games come around. Even these tail end of games on the current generation are getting demanding and really pushing utilizing all that 8Gb the consoles have mostly toward VRAM.
Also many engines from the past few years don't necessarily NEED more VRAM, and will run fine with 4-6Gb, but if more is available they preload to reduce the chance of texture popping and/or they load in higher quality textures. So while 6Gb might work, you wouldn't notice without seeing side-by-side that the quality and/or texture popping is worse or goes from non-existant popping to existant.
>How much VRAM is enough
has become a lot more complicated the past 8 years due to the above.

Recommending 6Gb now for 1440p is like recommending 3Gb for 1080p 3 years ago. Yeah, it only had a problem in a handful of games 3 years ago, but 2 years later and it was dozens and dozens of games where it really struggled. The 1060 3Gb is a stutterfest in loads of games without heavily dropping down the settings to well below what the GPU chip itself is capable of.
Better off getting a used 1070Ti if you must get Nvidia and ignore the Vega 56 deals.

I don't feel comfortable recommending someone spend $350 on a GPU that they're more likely to end up needing to replace in 2 years. 3 years should be the minimum.
But for 1080p, the 2060 is fine.

>>70170417
1920x1200 75hz IPS is only $125-$200. 1440p has good options around $300.
I even saw refurbished ZR24w panels (panel only, no stand) for $80 before.

Funny how money doesn't matter when shills convince people to waste more on a GPU than someone needs for their needs, but a professional spending more on a monitor to get productivity out of it is ludicrous.
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>GTX 1660 twin fan model
>R5 2600
>MSI B450 Tomahawk
>G. Skill Aegis 2x8 GB 3000 MHz CL16 RAM
>You're favourite 550W PSU 80+ gold that won't shit itself
>You're favourite case
>Baconator combo with large fries and drink from Wendy's to give you the energy to assemble the PC
Rate my $700 gaymen PC.
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>>70170585
I like that last part, I hate the ram though. GSkill Aegis is the only memory that I ever used that made troubles for me.
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I have a fag question, please help, i live in argentina and finding the parts with good value is fucking awful:

>2600 + Noctua cooler
>2600x with stock

What's the better option? It's more or less the same price and can't really go beyond that. is th X worth it anons?
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>>70170585
Forgot SSD.
RAM is a little slow, but cheap so whatever.
Should be a no-bun lettuce wrap baconator, though. Less carbs, and higher ratio of meat. Changes life.

Not a bad build at all, considering that.
>>70170663
Yeah. It's pretty down there like with Patriot garbage.

>>70170671
2600X if it's <20% more than the 2600. Like if it's $165 vs $185, I'd take the 2600X.
X is worth it. PBO and BCLK OC is more comfy than an old fashioned OC.
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Good mobo for i7???

Also which i7??? 8700k or 9700???
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>>70170711
if the price difference is within ~$50 get the 9700k.

Z390 Gigabyte boards are good, don't go low end, but no need to go super high end either. Look in the $150-250 range.
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>>70170710
again, shitty country, shitty taxes. But yes, less than 20%
>2600 = $250 + cooler $40-50
>2600x = $288
So is the X worth it. I remember so many threads about the fakeness of it, but it was with generation one.

Thank you anon. 2600X and later on maybe a cooler for OC.
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>>70170711
None. Neither. Get a secure CPU instead.

>>70170801
Yes, that's less than 20% difference. Get the 2600X.
You can add a cooler later if you think you need it, but you likely won't at least not near term. You could get a cheaper one like the Arctic Freezer 33, Cryorig H7, or Bequiet Pure Rock, too.
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>>70170967
Thank you anon.
I recently upgrade to a Rx 590 from a 280x and from what i gather a 2600x is a nice companion.

most of those coolers don't get in here. bequiet and hyper are the main ones, but i'll take your advice.
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>>70170967
I'm expecting a disappointing zen 2. I don't think it'll make the leaps we hope.

>>70170746
Yeah I would love to get evga because they're my guys but their mobos are trash now I hear.

I'll look into gigabyte thanks anon!
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>build computer with three M.2 slots
>add two 64-GB SSDs, one 1-TB SSD, and three 8-TB HDDs
>install Windows 10 on one 64-GB SSD
>install Xubuntu on the other 64-GB SSD
>install programs on the 1-TB SSD
>use one 8-TB HDD to store data
>use another 8-TB HDD as an internal data backup
>use the third 8-TB HDD as an external data backup
How stupid and pointless is this idea?
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>>70170967
>secure CPU instead.
>still meming about this
You'll have to come up with another shillpoint. Ryzen is insecure as well >>70156832 >>70156843. In fact, any PC connected to the internet can be considered insecure.

>>70170492
>6Gb is not enough for EVERYTHING in 1440p
Yes it is. Proven false time and time again with actual facts instead of memes protruding from your butthole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfnzHA3-MhM
>inb4 you shit yourself again because you don't understand how allocation works

>3Gb for 1080p, 2 years later and it was dozens and dozens of games where it really struggled
Post them (you can't, because there aren't), but I'm genuinely curious if the 3GB 1060 can't play any new titles. Of course, no 4K texture packs. I don't think I've seen any website revisit the 3GB 1060 recently. One year ago, it was completely fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRtCCMsbcnM

You are hilariously divorced from reality. The sad thing is that you actually believe yourself, too
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>>70171031
>I'm expecting a disappointing zen 2. I don't think it'll make the leaps we hope.
I've been cautious about it myself.
I think the clock speeds will be there (4.7ghz+. Maybe some at 5GHz). It really will have more than 8 cores. Memory compatibility should be better. 2.3x faster infinity fabric.

However, memory latency may be worse instead of improved, and that makes a huge difference for games.

>>70171108
See my replies to those posts. No sense in repeating myself just because you refuse to accept how wrong you are, as many others pointed out.
>You are hilarious divorced from reality
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Should I get a evga 650bq semi modular 80 plus bronze or a corsair CX650M semi modular 80 plus bronze?
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>>70170280
>2GB more VRAM?
Doesn't matter in the slightest at 1080p

>>70169051
>It's the 580, 590, 1660, 1660ti, 2060 which are stupidly close together. 1070 and Vega64 are pretty far apart
Let's analyze this for a second. According to a reasonable source >>70169248, the 1660Ti and the 1070 are approximately equal and the 2060 and V64 are approximately equal. This retarded namefag just said,
>the 1660ti and 2060 are stupidly close together
>1070 and Vega64 are pretty far apart
when they have almost identical performance gaps. Holy shit, how can he be that stupid?
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>>70171138
>as many others pointed out.
In your dreams, retard. Many black people pillage your butthole at night. You have no reasonable reply. Get owned.
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>>70171105
Sounds expensive af
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>>70171198
I'm asking whether it's a retarded idea, not whether it's an expensive idea.
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>Windows
yikes mega cringe
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I'm looking to build a pc that can run pretty much any modern game at medium-high settings, run Ableton and Sony Vegas with little to no hassle, and be able to handle any of the above in one 1080p monitor while handling a browser and music player in a second one.

Is this build from the op good enough to work off, maybe with a swap for a 2700? Also, can anybody recommend a nice 1080p monitor that's easy on the eyes for long use and watchan movies?
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Is it a good ideia to buy the r5 2600 or whait until the 3000 launch? I want to change my cpu (i3 6100) and I noticed AMD has some great cpus overall
Also, does an evga 430w struggle with one gtx 1660?
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>>70171331
>r5 2600 or whait until the 3000 launch
You can buy now. The only reason to wait would be to get an X570 mobo with PCIe 4.0 or save maybe $40 on the CPU.

>my cpu (i3 6100)
The i7s for your socket (6700/K or 7700/K) are still some of the best gaming CPUs

>does an evga 430w struggle with one gtx 1660?
No

>>70171289
>maybe with a swap for a 2700?
If Sony Vegas is like other video editing software, it'll see a benefit to more multithreaded performance. There are also gaming monitor recommendations (fine for movies as well) in the OP.
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>>70171289
You don't need a 2060 for medium-high settings at 1080p@60. An RX570 does that for almost 1/3rd the price.
As for CPU, anything 2600 or above is good for music and video editing.

>>70171331
If all you're getting is a 1660, an R5 2600 is going to handle it more than fine.
1660+2600 shouldn't use over 250watts total system consumption. Maybe 300-350w in some niche situation and overclocked. Both are super efficient parts.

So sure you could wait, and maybe get the 2600/board cheaper or get a 3600. But having an i3-6100 must be miserable, and 2600+board is cheap enough as it is right now.
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>>70166695
Cut out an ssd, cut power supply by half, remove wifi, upgrade monitor
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Does magnets make the electricity better?
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Where can I get more sata power cords for my power box? I installed a new ssd and I have the power to support more, but I can't find the cords.
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>>70171761
depends on the PSU model


look it up or post the model for someone to tell you the answer.
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>>70171766
SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply, it's an old build. I should have posted this first, my b.
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>>70167885
>>70167935
>my IPS glow unusually bad
Nope, welcome to IPS nigger, enjoy your back glow.
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>>70171790
Well your PSU should have 6 SATA power connectors on 2 different cables.

One cable with 4 SATA connectors totaling 760mm in length

And the 2nd cable with 2 SATA connectors totaling just 420mm in length.


If you no longer have the cables, you can buy another for around $20

https://www.moddiy.com/products/Seasonic-6%252dPin-Modular-Sleeved-Cable-to-3-x-SATA-Connectors.html
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Very stupid question from a very poorfag:
I have an "Hyper 212 Plus" cooler for am3+ and recently bought a new am4 ryzen. Stock cooler sucks. No money for a while and thinking, is there any way to DIY and cannibalize the bracket to fit? The upgrade kit doesn't ship to my shitty country.
Am i out of luck? thank you anons.
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Fractal or NZXT?
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my G500 is getting flakey what is the current mouse meme
needs good linux support
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>>70171847
G502 Proteus is the cheapo nice one.
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>>70171827
>Stock cooler sucks
I was in pretty much the exact same situation. I had the Hyper 212 Evo on my FX 6350, and the stock cooler that came with my R5 2600 is really dinky by comparison. It doesn't really "suck" though, especially not at stock clocks. I doubt there's anything DIY you can do, but maybe you can pay a little extra to get a reshipper to send the conversion kit to you, or maybe a little searching will help you find one, even if you have to pay for it.
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>>70171681
ya more better

>>70171827
You can just put on a better fan with zipties.
Uhh technically am3+ uses the same mounting pressure and clearence, iirc. There were some boards that fit either am3+ or am4 coolers. But there could be traces under the AM3 mounting pattern... so not recommended.

You can get an AM4 mounting bracket for the hyper 212, can't you? or was that only for the 212evo? Though it's not free afaik.

>>70171834
I don't like the older Fractal cases and I don't like NZXT either.
Silverstone and Thermaltake.

>>70171811
Mine doesn't have glow. My TCL TV does, which I think is VA. Shit happens with TNs, too. But I actually paid around $400 for this monitor instead of getting garbage.
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HELLO AND WELCOME TO KEK DEALS
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>>70172001
Is the hero worth getting?
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>>70172039
>>70172118
All hyper 212 (evo, x, plus) can be upgraded with the kit. But no luck on my country. Probably will end up getting a new one along the ride and stick with stock for the time being. Reshipping is an option i guess, not really sure how that works or where to do it. Aliexpress is a no show.

zipties though... seems sketchy.

thank you anons!
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>>70172135
same mouse, better optical. really depends on the price you can get it.
I'm not from burgerland so Spectrum is way cheaper.
For the same price, go with Hero.
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>>70172126
Why is he so creepy?
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>>70172264
It's the smile.
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>>70172118
>Mine doesn't have glow.
As if anybody would believe anything the resident AMD shill has to say.
>Shit happens with TNs
top shill
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anyone can tell me of a good expandable AiO water cooler?
do these even exist?
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I got a 2700x, wasnt planning on OCing since ive heard it works better for gaming without. When i turned on the mobo OC setting to get my ram up to the advertised speed of 3000mhz it turned on the "BLCK" or whatever its called setting of the CPU to 100 value. Should i set it back to zero or is that better for gaming?
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>>70172480
Can an aio be expanable? Isnt that a contradiction?
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>>70172506
That auto oc shit amd does in benchmarks from what i have seen performs better than manual ocs
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Dudes... Just replaced my power supply unit because computers been crashing and it'll come up with an error about it.. got everything hooked up, powered on.. and got into a game of overwatch. Match about to start and total black screen

Haven't been able to get a picture again.. I switched back to my old PSU and nothing. I dunno wtf happened did my video card crap out or what.
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>>70172480
>do these even exist?
That is against the definition of what an AIO is.
Yes. https://www.ekwb.com/solutions/kits/
>>70172511
Right

>>70172506
>>70172517
It does at least in the case of the 2700X by a clear amount.
On the 2600X, it's give or take due to its max turbo being lower and closer to the old fashioned OC limits.

Just enable PBO.
You can go further by setting a negative voltage offset (if your motherboard BIOS supports it)
You can go further with a BCLK OC of up to 104.9. In all likelyhood you'll max out more around 103.5-104. You can get up to 4.563GHz on 2 cores that way and I think something like 4.311GHz all core turbo. But around 4.524 2-core and 4.274 all-core is more common from what I've seen.

>>70172546
Could be a grounding issue on the card or display connections. Have you tried another connector, or does the GPU not come on at all anymore (lights on, fan spinning)?
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>>70172546
Yeah ur gpu is crash try undeclocking it also what is the gpu? Could be cpu crash those will turn the whole pc off if it gets too hot or lock up and make horrible noises out the speamer
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>>70172566
Speaker*
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>>70172562
>>70172566
The GPU comes on it's got lights and fans it's an r9 380 no weird noises. It just worked for 5 minutes and now I got nothing even with the old psu
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I want to buy a 3600x on release but for now I want to start buying parts. I just bought a Node 202 but does anyone know if the B450 board will be compatible?
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>>70172715
>but for now I want to start buying parts
Ram and ssds are literally going to keep getting cheaper throughout the year. The ram I bought a couple weeks back is already a few bucks cheaper
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>>70172659
Yeah try another connector cable and port. And different port on monitor.

>>70172715
Some b450 boards have already been getting BIOS updates for Zen2. Look at the support page for update notes and buy one of those.
But you'll likely need another CPU than a 3000 series one to boot it and update the BIOS on it. Don't know if AMD will send bootkits again or not. Unless a local shop will do it for free, I wouldn't do this unless you're already going to buy a $50 Athlon or something with it.

500 series boards may end up having some new features as well, like StoreMi.
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>>70172562
>>70172511
im really considering after looking at a video showing that even without OC it can help due to thermal trhottle. i can do a AiO for the processor but another for the GPU sounds so dumb, so i figured there should be a simple expandable solution somewhere

guess ill have to consider the whole deal later on
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>>70172754

For anyone with any sort of long-term experience, should I go with B450 or X470 for long-term improvements?
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>>70172659
did you overclocked the GPU anyway?
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>>70172800
>B450 or X470 for long-term improvements?
X470, AM3 to AM3+ was hit or miss on mid range boards
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>>70172837
Nah never over clocked it.. I don't even have access to the bios. Considering taking it to a local PC shop it's probably something stupid
>>70172754
Did try an HDMI cord and nothing. No spare monitor or GPU right now
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Any news on when this case is dropping? I can't wait anymore
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Fellas, quick and simple:
>B350
>B450
>?
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>>70173326
More specifically:
>GIGABYTE B450M DS3H
or
>ASUS B350M-A
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>>70173343
neither. Those are both garbage models.
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>>70173347
Not very helpful anon, i'm poor and live in a shithole. Either Giga b450 or asus B350, both for a 2600x. Only real options (also A320 but that's no good).
Thoughts?
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>>70172776
I just linked you to one you tard

>>70172800
>long term experience
no one can predict the future. AMD probably won't announce new 500 series chipset features/bundles until a month before launch.

>>70173112
yuck

>>70173343
Both of those are trash boards.
b450 gaming plus is the absolute minimum you can get.
maybe the b450 pro 4... but there's been reports of audio issues still afaik.

>>70173029
That sucks, anon. Don't know. Black screen despite the GPU coming on is usually a cable/grounding/monitor issue, though.
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>>70173366
Gigabyte then. If you can, try to get ahold of an MSI B450M Bazooka or Asrock B450M Pro 4.
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>>70173366
>for a 2600x
B350 might have an old BIOS that won't work with the 2600X, so get the 450
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>>70173391
updating isn't an issue to be honest, been there done that. b350 doest support ryzen out of the box, but may need update for the 2d gen 2600x.

>>70173386
>MSI B450M Bazooka
price difference is too big to consider. A320, B350 and Giga B450 are all more or less on same range. Bazzoka and Pro goes for almost double.
>>70173373
giga b450 ds3h it is then. I know it's garbage but can't justify 50-70% over price to a pro 4.
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Why doesn't this NVMe fit into my laptop? It looks like it should fit but it doesn't go in. I don't want to break it by forcing it.
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>>70173443
It takes a lot of force. You aren't going to break it.
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>>70173443
It goes in at an angle. Google it
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>>70173326
X570. B550 is keeping the ASSMedia-designed chipset.
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>>70173443
These shits are inserted at an angle. Don't do what >>70173457 says. Look for examples on youtube or something.
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>>70173477
Oh yeah that's right. AMD designed their own new chipset. It should be a lot more secure, among other things.

pls email board vendors and ask them to make an X570 mATX board that doesn't suck.
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>>70173477
doesn't even exist in my country. Found another option:
>Asus B350M A.
>Giga B450M Ds3h
>MSI B450M PRO-M2

Any opinion? I'm leaning towards Giga b450m.
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I have a piece of shit FX-4100 AMD CPU and after my 660 Ti finally died I ordered a GTX 970 to pair it with. Naturally some bottlenecking will occur, but the twist here is that my CPU is overclocked to 4.8 GHz (from 3.6 GHz stock). How bad will the bottleneck be considering that at those speeds this CPU has no problems keeping up with modern workloads?
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>>70173505
>MSI B450M PRO-M2
This one
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>>70173505
MSI B450M PRO-M2.
Similar VRM as the Tomahawk. Just lacks heatsinks.

>>70173508
Bad. The IPC is shit so it's more like 3.3GHz at 4.8GHz compared to a modern CPU. And 4 threads isn't enough. Just get a 2600; it's the right CPU for like 95% of people.
If you're mega poor, I've been seeing R5 1600 as cheap as $80 at some retailers.
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>>70173505
>doesn't even exist in my country.
Those are the new chipsets coming out with Zen2 CPUs, they're not out yet. Failed attempt at humor.
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>>70173524
>>70173549
MSI B450M PRO-M2 it is then.
Is MSI a "safe" brand. I've always used ASUS up to now.
It's a bit cheaper than the GIGA B450M DS3H too for some reason.

Anyhow, thank you, i'll order that one.
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>>70173508
Test it instead of making guesses.
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>>70173558
oh, sorry anon. I failed at my research to be honest.
Been searching for hours to have a competent mother that's isn't as expensive as my WAY overpriced rx 590 and i'm probably cry myself to poor sleep like the orphan i am now.

Still, will probably don't get here for a few years after release either way haha
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>>70173562
When it comes to AMD AM4 platform boards, MSI and Asrock are the go-to bang for the buck brands.
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>>70173571
Why don't you just get a much cheaper RX570?
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>finally finish PC build
>garbo Logitech speakers won't work on win10
>Logitech decided not to pay their webhosting fee, so their support/drivers site is gone
I didn't need sound anyway.
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>>70173600
Eh, it was only $100 difference and it was the first part i got. The special edition thingy hooked me up. Stupid mistake i guess, but i'm very happy with the card. Just need to balance the rest with a good CPU (2600x) and a budget Mobo
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>>70173567
The entire point of asking is because I can’t perform the test myself. I ordered the card, it’s not here yet.
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>>70173498
Do I even have the right port? Every video I've seen has the slit in the right side (if you're facing the Oort) while mine is on the left side.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cT6BBb
semi-budget build, first time building a computer after using prebuilts for multiple years. did I make any major fuck ups?
(also is it worth the lower cost to split my order between multiple sites or should I just buy it all on a single site)
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>>70173708
... when you get it, try it, see if you're at 99% GPU utilization in games. If not, your CPU is bottlenecking.

>>70173710
It is right. It should fit in. Wiggle it up and down lightly as you push it in I guess.

>>70173780
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cT6BBb
>artic silver
>UV400. And 120gb yet it's $40 lmao?
>loud ASRock GPU
>One of the bad Rosewill cases
come on now
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T63w4q so these are the parts I have, what do I need to make this gaming capable?

two monitors, 1080p, would prefer an AMD GPU no budget keep it reasonable i'll pick the case later
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>>70173780
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yrzv9J
here's what I would do. the psu I put in is overkill, but it will last you across builds, especially if you plan on getting zen 2.
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>>70166022
Just got a 1080 ti FTW 3 today, how do I check the clock speeds to make sure I didn't get scammed because I bought it used?
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>>70173898
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T63w4q
>what do I need to make this gaming capable?
PSU and case.
iGPU will play games on like original PS4 non-pro quality settings and fps.

>>70173956
go by benchmark scores. Don't have shit running in the background.
But any overclocking software will show, and so will GPU-Z.
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>>70173979
do I have to reinstall my drivers if I'm only going from a 1070 to a 1080 ti?
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>>70173979
it still likes to struggle, its minimal gaming and can't run anytihng close to 60fps, I'm just not sure what GPU I should get.
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>>70173956
GPU Z or Nvidia's software. This your first PC?

>>70173898
RX 580, but unless you already have the 2400G, get the 2600. Also get a mATX mobo unless you're building SFF or mITX

>>70173780
You don't need thermal paste. Stock cooler comes with preapplied paste. SSD is terrible
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>>70174002
yea those are parts I already have, any recommendation on manufacturer for the 580?
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>>70167036
Do you mod?
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New thread
>>70174020
>>70174020
>>70174020

>>70173986
ya I would just in case. I think there can be some initialization shit in the driver install based on hardware.

>>70173996
RX570 is the best value choice.



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