>Requesting purchase advice https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub>/g/ headphone wiki https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=HeadphonesPrevious thread:>>69746777
Yes, stax are good. Yes, they make people mad as fuck. Yes, you should get some.
>>69765458Redpill on STAX: STAX is an old Jap company with outdated tech that was considered high end back in the 1960s and 1970s but sounds like ass by today's standards, so they went nearly bankrupt. They were purchased by a Chinese company for just a million dollars who decided to market STAX to the audiophool "more expensive is better" demographic who buys those crappy $3000 vinyl players, they shill heavily on HeadFi and here on /hpg/, plus they pay Zeos to shill their crap just like Fostex does.>In December 2011, Chinese loudspeaker manufacturer Edifier announced the acquisition of 100% equity in StaxOratory has measured the highest end STAX, the SR-009S.https://www.dropbox.com/s/61srehjyaltd7w0/Stax%20SR-009S.pdf?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/dm0m6u3s3b4zqzl/Sennheiser%20HD600.pdf?dl=0It's worse than the HD600. HD600 scored 92 and SR-009S scored 76.In a separate study:>The very highest end STAX ($4000 SR-009) was rated lower in blind tests than a $200 K701http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=17441Download the PDF of the study at: https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wAEven best Stax headphones sound objectively worse than mid-fi. This is why they don't demo them in store, they rely on the internet to create a sense of mystique around STAX and shill it as the endgame because its expensive, Asian, rare and obscure. In reality its no bass sounding garbage, with shrill highs that appeal only to near-deaf boomers. And what they say is true, they have no soundstage.
>>69765475Way too slow nikki boy ;)
>>69765475Based and objectivepilled
>>69765458>arguing about headphones you'll never own>brandfaggin for a shitty company like Stax You guys need to stop.
>expensive import only limited stock with no return option>ctrl + f stax in previous thread
Do you think the nostax mafia ever gets bored with this? Like, spamming the same forced memes and copypastas over and over again can’t be terribly entertaining.
Post magnet-fi garbage.First to embarrass myself.
>>69765510Sometimes I join in with them. Shitting on stax is literally the best way to convince anons to buy stax.
>>69765502you know what's funny is that there are probably more stax owners who also own the HD800S than there are HD800 owners without stax. even funnier is that they all agree that stax are better>>69731408 >By the way since I forgot it earlier, my ranking of the headphones here would be L700 > Lambda Pro > HD800S > Audeze Sine. >>68971767>reminder that stax is the true endgame, don't spend money on anything else.>Coming from a guy who got memed into buying hd800 just to sell it at a loss. >>67324655>You clearly have never heard both Bass on Stax lambdas is way better than on hd800 no comparison >>67324749>I agree
>>69765546>you know what's funny is that there are probably more stax owners who also own the HD800S than there are HD800 owners without stax. even funnier is that they all agree that stax are betterThis general also listens to modern edm, deathcore, and the most hipster shit you can imagine (floor anon).
>>69765563>none of you actually own this!>actually plenty of people do!>y-your music sucks!Still no reply from benchmark by the way.
>>69765574You guys own the bottom tiers of stax headphones and various degrees of garbage amps/dac. So I ignored that bit.
>>69765510I believe the image until it is proven wrong
>>69765585>i-it doesn’t count because it’s not high tier enough for me!>a-also your dac sucks!LMAO
>>697655853 anons with 007, 4 anons with L700/L300L, 2 anons with 006t, 1 anon with 717ok
>>69765600>>69765602>>i-it doesn’t count because it’s not high tier enough for me!I only care about sr009s. And there's still the shitshow of Stax amps.
>>69765602whoa what three anons have 007 I only know the one the Chiru.no guy that runs the internet radio
>>69765612i mean you have shit taste so yeah you wouldalso 009s is more expensive than your entire mid-fi dynamic setup lol
>>69765585are you admitting that the bottom tier of stax headphones with garbage amps sound better than your setup? because it seems to be that way considering quite a few impressionsL M A O
>>69765612>it only counts if it’s the model I say counts!>why this model? because it’s the most expensive lol who cares if it actually sounds goodGenius
>>69765612so uhh then only LCD-4 Susvara Utopia matter then? what the hell about all the "Decent" headphones otherwise below
>>69765619>also 009s is more expensive than your entire mid-fi dynamic setup lolNot sure what 3rd worlder currency you're mixxing up but it's not.>>69765622Excellent reading comprehension
>>69765602theres 3 anons with 404 ;-;
>>69765618one guy said he purchased it a few threads ago and one of the archive links here had a pic of another
>the hardest to obtain headphones have the most shills for themREEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY makes you think
>>69765636It literally is, you own $1000 headphones and a $1000 dac amp
What's the point of stax when you can get neutral headphones like hd600 (which has a closer freq response to speakers)?
>>69765648>one guy said he purchased it a few threads agoprobably beyersryche anon, i've been considering the 007 myself but idk if I care
>>69765651>hardest to obtainIf you live in a third world toilet bowl maybe.
>>69765661i already have ksc75 so no thanks to any of that crap
>>69765651>he doesn't get paid to shitpostmaybe you should switch teams
>>69765651Stax is like the chainlink of g, totally stinky and only poojeets like them
>>69765682>t. increasingly nervous audeze shill
>>69765660Seriously though. What 3rd world currency are you fucking up? The whole set up is over $4000 just base price...
>>69765648>>69765662Yeah that was me have them on hold gonna buy with tax refund
>>69765688actually thisusa is new world
will /hpg/ ever go back to those days
>>69765689HD800S is $1000 used and you got made fun of a bunch for spending $1000 on snake oil. What else do you own, that's $2000 which is less than 009S.
>>69765688>t. Neo middle easterner
>>69765687I'm sorry but your shitcoins will never moon and your shitphones will never sound good.
>>69765689>he paid 4 grand for a $2000 setupYou got ripped off big time buddy.
>>69765699>used>this absolute monkey thinks the dac3 is really $1000
>>69765707now copy my endro reaction images
>>69765695i entered in a world of shit and its been shit ever since ;-;
>>69765710Why are you so mad, everyone knows that price has no correlation to performance in this hobby. Just ask any of your fellow nostaxers.
>>69765709Not really. I only buy direct. And all official Sennhesier outlets are the same price excluding coupons. So if you paid less for your HD800s it has no warranty or you bought them used with aids.You handlers need to do better research on what a Benchmark DAC costs too.
>>69765458>conelradbasedremember: 640 and 1240https://youtu.be/LFU6fyTx3eQ
>>69765475>this is what the average STAX chink shill looks like>there are actually western incel weebs who fall for the STAX meme
>>69765726It's just painfully obvious you're third world when you can't even get your currency conversion right.
>>69765714The fuck do you mean?
>>69765738You're assuming that I actually looked up the price of whatever snake oil you own. Which I didn't. Anon said it costs $1000, so it costs $1000. Get fucked.
>>69765733no, no, joe <3
>>69765651STAX is a niche brand for a niche audience (incel weebs who have disposable income from their jobs but no family/girl to spend the money on). They generally tend to be the autistic nerdy guys who like anime and can't socialize, that is who STAX is targetting, so it makes sense they would pay full time shilling on /hpg/.
>>69765739he means youre a fucking nigger
>buy hd600>plug it into onboard soundcard>enjoy pure distilled fidelity>buy used stax with chink cum stains from japs>buy used special electrostatic headphone meme amp also with chink cum stains on the pot>needs a converter to be used in a first world country>sounds tinny and veiled>roll over the cable on your chair>orders replacement detachable cable... oh wait
>>69765758You shouldn't be talking when you look like this, incel-kun.
>>69765710Alright, let’s play along. https://www.amazon.com/Benchmark-Reference-Preamplifier-Converter-Asynchronous/dp/B01NAGAAW0?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-iphone-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01NAGAAW0$2195https://en-us.sennheiser.com/high-resolution-headphones-3d-audio-hd-800-s$1700Total: $3895SR-009S (their ACTUAL flagship, not the SR-009)https://staxaudio.com/earspeaker$4325This is ignoring the amp which will probably run you another 5 grand.
>>69765763lole he is actually mad, how cute :3
nostaxers need to work on their memes. they are so easily disproven, it's just there's new ones all the time and it's tiresome to spend 5 minutes to retrieve proof>electrocutionspritzer has been shocked over and over. specs of amps are way below current limits to kill>dust/build qualityall stax have dust guards, we can present pictures of 50 year old stax that still look good. the 20+ year old stax used market is more popular than any brand>nobasshead/coupler seal, easily fixed. easy quote of oratory to prove that all stax are linear when sealed. EQ goes the rest of the way>stax aren't neutraleasily disproven by both graphs and accoustic engineers (oratory thinks the 007 is the most neutral headphone in existence).>there are no stax ownerseasily disprove as seen last thread and this one. can easily acquire more>stax owners have buyers remorseyet the impressions remain the same for people who bought the at the same price as an hd600 setup or those who have gone to audition them before they bought>stax pays shillsexcept they hate foreigns and don't market at all>stax is scamming you with their snake oilexcept they have almost went bankrupt a couple times due to putting too much money into R&Dit's like you're not even trying anons, step up your game
>>69765746>I'm VERYYYY passionate about this hobby but I can't be asked to know fuck all about the best DAC on the consumer market. Or just one of the best companies in the hobby in general. Tough luck pal. Shitty shill>>69765768>3rd party >zero reading comprehnesion Amazing edumucationsz
>>69765767>posting a 12 year old child vs adult stax incelsNice try incel
>>69765770too late anon, I am already the wataten poster of this thread. you are but a pale imitation, just like your headphones
>>69765776Objectively speaking, no stax headphone can come close to the HD600 for a neutral response.
>>69765767not him but what does your post and that pic even imply? you aren't allowed to ever be a child?you just proved what a pathetic piece of shit human you are because whatever you implied is worse i'm sure
>>69765765Or just try not to be autistic with your cables?
>>69765781these guys are most likely married ;)anyways, no need to be mad you don't look that bad for a 12 year old
>>69765458If st*x is so amazing how come they have virtually no presence outside of weeb/incel circles?How come they have no distributors in other countries?How come stores don't want to demo them?How come they had to sell out for a mere million of american dollarydoos to the chinks just to avoid closure?
>>69765777Find me a cheaper price brand new on any of those. I’ll wait for your total calculation.
>>69765792This website is 18+, time to go butthurt kiddo
Not one of those many shitposters, but are electrostatics that hard or costly to manufacture?I'm trying to justify the use of plastic everywhere (even if that's sturdy plastic) on most STAX headphones which doesn't feel right for >$700 products.
>>69765787>objectively speakingcompensation curves have been not only been debunked by /hpg/ as slipshoddy science but has been improved apon by stax. stax is not your enemy, your autism is
>>69765782That just means we are watching the same show anon. Too bad we can't agree on the headphones.
>>69765796>most likely marriedIncorrect STAX incel. No woman would would ever marry a anime neckbeard who listens to a fucking meme 1970s headphone.
>>69765802Wow you're dense retard.
>if I flood the thread with my collection of unattractive people wearing stax I win!
>>69765807>is a pathetic shitstain>"time go leave our secret club kiddo"kys thanks
>>69765808Nope, they're just super niche and so few are bought that there are no economies of scale.Its 1970s tech.
>>69765800The surge in STAX users here are due to Zeos. Fat weebs are attracted to their own kind.
>>69765808nope. and nobody is even trying to steal their tech because it's just bad lol.
>>69765815Ouch did I hit a nerve, snapshitter turbocel? I don't think any woman would touch someone who spends their entire existence collecting pictures of people who own headphones they can't afford.
>>69765825I didn't ask you, anon. No offense intended.
>>69765816Good response. As good as Benchmark’s response to my japanese email (none).
>>69765831Sennheiser's flagship is an electrostat :^)
>>69765808its cheap shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf38cKJ6NBchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwD9tKioa9Q
>>69765832>STAX incel thinks I like SennheiserLel. They're both old ass shit riding off their names long after being surpassed by better tech.
>>69765845yep and they sound like shit roflnot a flagship tho
>>69765827wait does that mean harman caused the surge in nostaxers?
>>69765844Pls post email
>>69765475STAX shills on suicide watch.
65 (you)a last thread. 83 this thread :^)
>>69765852My 25 year old stax doesnt have either of these issues
Even the japs think stax are shit, they're getting rid of their lambdas to buy hd800s.
>>69765861>yep and they sound like shit roflall sennheisers sound like shit that's not the fault of the technology
>>69765897I'm sorry to hear about your hearing damage
>>69765912i didn't try the senns on for that long
>>69765895because lambdas have no soundstage and hd800s has the best soundstage on headphones right now
>>69765844I'll help you out.DAC3 $2,195.00HD800d $1,699.95That's just under $3900 before taxes and shipping. With tax it added another $200. Shipping for both was free.The sr009s are just under $4200. I pay no tax for Japshit. EMS costs about $15-$25 for something that size.The same price effectively and I'd use the DAC3 with the Stax anyway....
Sennheiser HD280? Now THAT was a set of cans.
>>69765861So by that logic 009S isnt the flag ship it would be the L700 since you think HD800S is the he flagship
>>69765922>his argument literally relies on taxes OH NO NO NO
>>69765934uh i'm not that person or persons
>>69765937Yes what I actually pay for shit... Not online arguments and 3rd worlders that can't into currency rates
Alright, this general is done. Too bad everywhere else is stuck at believing in myths like silver cables, burn-in or amp synergy. Looks like you simply cannot discuss audio on the internet.
>>69765955you should go to more progressive places like plebbit :^)
>>69765949Regardless you said HE-1 isnt a flagship which it most certainly is
>>69765955Bye, you won't be missed
>>69765955join the staxchads at audiosciencereview
Hey STAX shills, if STAX is so great how come they had to be sold to the chinks for just one million dollars just to avoid foreclosure?How come only weebs and deaf boomers like STAX?
>>69765973i didn't know oratory1990 was a weeb or a deaf boomer but thanks for the info i guess
>>69765968kek'd. I always forget that amir owns a couple omegas
>>69765955Its the two STAX shills that have destroyed it by spamming STAX related shit and crapping at every other brand.Its full time work for them.
>>69765992>t. samefagging nostax incel
>>69765955this general was done long before this autistic stax shitposting thoughpeople here believe in amp/dacs quality when usb interfaces have existed foreverthey think balanced cables does anything for headphonesthey buy expensive gear just to EQ headphonesthey buy expensive headphones and then put it into shitty expensive gear that colors or degrades the signaletc
>>69766008see you tomorrow
Keep up the good work lads.
>>69765922Hahahahha all these imaginary conjecture taxes lmao
>>69766017? i never said i'm leaving
>>69766026>imaginary conjecture taxesEither Marxist or pseudo anarchist commie.
>>69766032doesn't seem like you enjoy being here but maybe you're a masochist, I don't knowI thoroughly enjoy the direction /hpg/ has gone though.
>>69765458Daily reminder that the LCD2C has lower distortion than STAX, way better soundstage, exponentially better bass, way better build quality.Its sub 0.1% distortion means you can easily use APO Equilizer to create any sound signature you want without worrying about distortion.
>>69766045i like being here as much as i like going to places like headfi to see what dumb shit people make themselves believe in
>>69766047>audezeHaven't looked back since I upgraded to stax. Post some more pics of people wearing stax though.
>>69766008The balanced cables simply allow more power to be pushed to the headphones through two channels, which helps with the dynamic range. Its the same reason that you should always max out your computer/dac volume when feeding to the amp.
>>69766047Better comfort and you don't look like an incel wearing one.
>>69766043It’s simple really, post any evidence that you pay 0 taxes for japanese imports and post evidence that your sales tax is exactly enough to match $200 for a $3900 purchase. I’ll wait.
>>69766069i'm sorry but no
>>69765992Lol you actually believe this just so you know I have DT880s as well as K400 and will probably pick up a HD600 soon and I really like my Dt880 and K400 and honestly have never shat on a brand just for pure spite And I actually like my K400 more than my DT880 as far as sound goes since stock my vintage DT880 is a bit harsh someone post my graph I know you have it
>>69766062Okay stax shill. But the facts and measurements don't change, despite your shilling. STAX is losing its mystique in the age of the Internet, its not the 1970s anymore.
>>69766008>>69765955reminder that if you want everyone to be "woke to snake oil", use the same headphones or EQ to the same response and then expect there to be discussion on audio then you are just absolutely retarded.go over to hydrogenaud.io.read their posts.notice how there is no discussion because there is nothing to discuss.if you want /hpg/ to be like this then I don't know what to say to you. stop complaining and accept that there are difference of opinions, some valid and some that are not. if you can't do that then just leave.
>>69766083The facts are that planars are a pale imitation of stax made by stinky pajeets. There is no "mystique" to stax, if you want mystique buy some MDR-R10s.
>>69766075Because I never pay any tax for the japshit I buy? I round it up about $5...!
>>69766084>notice how there is no discussion because there is nothing to discuss.Pretty much, headphones are a stagnated technology. Even the HD800S which many consider the peak of the hobby does nothing new. The only thing being improved on headphones are not related to sound quality but rather wireless connectivity aka bluetooth, and other memes like noise cancelling.
>>69766109if you believe that then sign up on hydrogenaud.io and leave us the fuck alone.
>>69766116>leave usI've been on /hpg/ since the beginning. It's not your general, retard.
>>69766109The cold hard truth is that ever since the lambda pro was released in 1982, nothing has ever been a meaningful upgrade. Though, comparing dynamics to electrostats is kind of unfair. There has been a fair bit of interesting development in dynamic drivers.
>>69766084>you want everyone to use the same headphones or EQ to the same responsei didn't say this though, only listed dumb snakeoil shit.
>>69766136Not everyone enjoys the Lambda's sound signature. As evidenced by the many graphs posted here, they've got a lot of issues.
>>69766124it's not your general to subvert and use a vehicle for your psuedoscience either. you are the minority, no one gives a shit if you've been here since the beginning. it's not your general either.pick one of these choices: complain like a little girl about being in the sewers covered in poo but refusing to leave, learn to get along with other people, or LEAVE
>>69766151EQ. There are no real issues with the sound, that's all FUD garbage posted by nostaxers.
>>69766084Debunking myths is just the beginning of discussion. Getting to true subjectivism just means we can start sharing experiences like junkies.
>>69766157Lacks upper midrange and the peaky treble is a problem
>>69766198strong words made by someone who doesn't listen to headphones and only reads graphs
>>69766198>that's all FUD garbage posted by nostaxers>nostaxer posts FUD garbage
>>69766157>nostaxerscringe. You losers are like the Bitcoin cultists calling people nocoiners.In reality, you're the retards paying a ton of money for something that's absolute garbage.
>>69766221You can rationalize it however you want. Most people bought after demoing.
>>69766221says the anon who states that /hpg/ is dead but then goes straight back into posting graphs moments later. who's the real loser? move on with your life.
>>69766225>most people bought after demoinglel nice line shill. 99% of headphone stores don't even demo STAX, the excuse they use is that "the dust will ruin them" (TOP KEK)In reality everyone who would demo them would realize they have no bass, no soundstage and sound like thin, hollow shit that might have sounded impressive back in 1970s.
>>69766225>Most people bought after demoing.yyyyeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh i'll pass on believing this
>>69766233he says he comes hear to laugh at us but then gets mad as fuck when people don't agree with himwhat a joke, what a cope
>>69766233>stax incels telling others they have no life
>>69766237>>69766240This is some serious mental gymnastics.
>>69766243you're with us forever anon <3 we've never left and we'll never leave. the only thing that keeps changing is the ever growing stax population that you only help perpetuate
lel @ STAXfags getting BTFO again on /hpg/>muh chinkshit headphone
>>69766250what's the gymnastics in not believing that?
>>69766097So no proof? cool.
>>69766209>>69766210I like how you don't address any of the issues I presented. You act as if Lambdas are neutral, they aren't.
>>69766255Nice cope, poocel
>>69766263>I like how you don't address any of the issues I presentedfeel free to prove your preferred compensation curve is not psuedo-science and is in fact replicable by third parties
>>69766263Because STAXfags don't care about that nonsense, like measurements and facts. They just "feel" like STAX sounds better, just like their $2000 audio cables and $4000 vinyl players.
>>69766263Because it's literally been addressed before, hundreds of times. There's no convincing someone who's embedded so deeply in his "STAX bad" dogma, so just go fucking try the things.
>>69766285>just go fucking try the things.lmao where?
>>69766292Figure it out bud. I'm not your mom.
NOOO SENNBROS WE CAN'T LET THE STAXCHADS WIN
>>69766292you're not a budget objectivist are you?
>>69765546sorry i don't believe or have very hard time trusting someone that buys snakeoil cables so most of your pics are invalid
>>69766302what? just tell me where i can try them or buy with return option in europe.
no (you) for you, none of those pics have snakeoil cables
>>69766258What do you want? My checking account history?
>>69766272>hurr durr pseudoscienceI posted issues with the STAX Lambda and that's your response? Anyone who listens to loudspeakers regularly would be able to pick up on the recessed upper midrange and peaky treble. I'm guessing you guys aren't the best of listeners.
>>69766303those are all stock cables.
>>69766303>everyone i don’t like buys snakeoil cables>the emotional child’s guide to headphone discussion
>>69766308they had them in their previous or later pictures.
>>69766309Would be better proof than the absolute nonexistent amounts of evidence you’ve posted here. Nonexistent like benchmark’s email.
>>69766315Why don't you show us measurements of your loudspeakers in your room then so we can compare?
>>69766338Well, where is it? I’m waiting.
>>69766308>>69766316>>69766319>three people respond to one persons post to defend itwhat in the fuck is wrong with your heads retards>>69766332that guy that posts pictures of shit on the floor, and the other guy with the rack and vinyl player
>>69766315this isn't an argument and you haven't proven anything. from the start you are just asserting your opinion and interpretation of a graph and this is why you are a psuedo-scientist. >I'm guessing you guys aren't the best of listeners.try them yourself, we value opinions and impressions of stax (with a timestamp of course)
>>69766353>with a timestamp of courseThis is where they all fail. Many such cases. Sad!
>>69766352>what in the fuck is wrong with your heads retardsomg how dare multiple people actually RESPOND to the same person they’re like cyber bullying him
>>69766352>that guy that posts pictures of shit on the floor, and the other guy with the rack and vinyl playerliterally everyone hates floor anon. he has everything. he has your headphones too probably, but since we are doing guilt by association then I guess you're a snake oil faggot too!
>>69766374floor anon is the last boss of /hpg/
>>69766353I've tried various Omegas and Lambdas, they don't sound tonally correct to me. Even a cheapo DT880 ore HD600 sounds more accurate.
>>69766368that would mean they had to read it and click and the replies too just to even know what it's about and why would you do that? fucking autism general
>>69766347It's basic knowledge if you buy stuff from japan.
>>69766387omg clicking is so hard how does this website work wtf what is >>
>>69766384Look, I can do it too:I've tried the HD900 and DT1880, they don't sound tonally correct to me. Even a cheapo DT770 ore HD630VB sounds more accurate.
>>69766384considering I've never seen someone claim they hate stax over the years and provide timestamped proof with that claim I'm going to have to be skeptical that you even own headphones
>>69766389So basic you can’t provide proof it exists.
>>69766390or just get a life retard
>>69766384congratulations you have working ears
>>69766403Buy something from japan.
>>69766407fucking incels and their complex incel website...
Stax incel on the left: STAX STAX STAX STAX STAXNostax chad on the right
after trying every headphone in existence i can say that i am a massive faggot please fuck my face
>>69766398>>69766401Are you guys so invested in your stacks that you think it's impossible for someone to not enjoy them? I think this conversation's over.
>>69766422who was it spamming pictures of people wearing staxoh wait
>>69766419Provide proof that japanese purchases are tax free no matter the quantity or value and that $3900 worth of purchases gives you exactly $200 in sales tax.
>>69766429No I don't believe any shit anyone posts on the internet because it's the fucking internet. Pics or it didn't happen has been a thing since 4chan's inception.
>>69766434Buy something from japan.
>>69766450Provide proof that japanese purchases are tax free no matter the quantity or value and that $3900 worth of purchases gives you exactly $200 in sales tax.
>>69766429They're not invested in them, they're being paid by Edifier to shill it here. All it takes is one guy samefagging to try and make it look like STAX is this widely loved thing. Its a fucking joke.
>>69766442>expects him to post pics of the stax he auditionedYou stax shills sure are fucking stupid.
>>69766429>you think it's impossible for someone to not enjoy them?I unironically believe this and have yet to see proof of any impression on any site leading me to believe otherwise.
>>69766452Go buy $4000 with of onaholes and lube. Have fun.
>>69766453if they're being paid they sure as fuck are fucking retarded for not even being able to provide any way to buy them, seems like it's literally impossible unless you buy them used in USA
>>69766453>doesnt get paid >sits there getting butthurt at people who are getting paid
>>69766466I’ll leave that to weeb retards like you.
>>69766473>stax fanboy calling me a weeab
Are we being raided? What the fuck is up with all the frothing at the mouth nostax rage?
>>69766438there's probably a reseller in europe that will give you a return policy. if there isn't your excuse isn't going to work for much longer, japan and the EU have struck a trade agreementhttps://www.dw.com/en/eu-and-japan-create-worlds-biggest-free-trade-zone/a-47319521don't blame stax for europe having garbage commie restrictions and tariffs.
>>69766478>has an anime bluray sitting on top of his DAC3>complains about being called a weeb>>69766482We’ve been astroturfed for the last month. Get used to it.
>>69766482haha fucking epic dudeget banned already
>>69766489Ok you got me.
>>69766489>>69766482we've been raided since a month or two before christmas, actually
>17ips >223 posts You incels sure are something else. Even if we give 3 separate IPs to each nostax poster.
>ctrl + f stax>17 posters>115 resultsfucking turbo lmao
>tfw you finish a listening session with your senns
What was the website where you could import headphones directly from Japan? I think it went down recently?
>>69766505>>69766507>handlers can't coordinate and their slaves are now duplicating posts
>>69766516buyee or audiocubes
>>69766518just like how a cheap DAC can duplicate the sound your $1000 snake oil makesI'll admit that one was a stretch.
>>69766531are you looking to become a stax owner?
>>69766627Stax needs to fire these other handlers and hire this guy.
>>69766543>.> I'm just looking
>STAXNo. Fucking. Bass.
>>69766627Holyshit based as fuck
>>69766706>AT&T Communications CEO John Donovan recently defended the 5G E branding, saying AT&T's rivals are "frustrated" and that "I have now occupied beachfront real estate in my competitors' heads.">>69766710this
>>69765662I too have been considering 007 but I would like to demo them first
>bulky on-ear hybridswhat in the absolute fuck is the point of these?
>>69766760for what it's worth they respond well to pad swapping. if you don't like it you can do that, or ask maki for some of his EQs, or just sell it
>>69766760Just remember that in order to sound good, 007 need to be blutack sealed and need a powerful amp. But the results are basically the best thing to come from Stax.
Tack mod guide for 007?
>>69766805>Just remember that in order to sound good>need a powerful ampi'm trying really hard not to call you out on this but if you preface it with "people say" rather than "I know for a fact without any proof" I wouldn't have an issue
>>69765458I didn't know we had a new thread wtf.
>buy O2 amp>get it engraved>buy stax a month later>never use O2 againfug
>>69766805Does the beefier amp really make a difference. In still using the 252s right now
If st*x is so amazing then how come nobody relevant from the audio industry endorses them, other than that one boomer STAXshills always bring up?How come they have virtually no presence?How come they have no distributors in other countries?How come they had to sell out for a mere million of american dollarydoos to the chinks just to avoid closure?
>>69766805>STAX shills trying to upsell their shitty meme amps to make STAX "sound good"When will this scam end?
>>69766849they're about as present as Audeze, ZMF, et. al. are
>>69766859when /g/ gets competent janitors/mods
I lyk loli cunny. Hedfones pls? uwu
>>69766834It’s a current thing. Allegedly the 007 needs 19ma of current to run at 118dB. Basically all the stax amps fall short of that by a long shot. But since you seem to be really interested in this topic I have shot several more qualified people a message on this question which I will update later on. >>69766846A 252 is not gonna be loud enough for a 007, nevermind have enough current for it.
>>69766893>A 252 is not gonna be loud enough for a 007, nevermind have enough current for it.first part is straight up false, second is conjecture and needs to be proven with double blind testing>>69709907>>69709946>>69710023gets plenty loud with no change in frequency response and only a small distortion increase which is safe to assume that it's inaudible. no changes in phase or group delay either, only at below 40hz which is certainly not going to be audible.
>>69766894lmao go to any audio forum
>>69766917Like I said, I’ve messaged several people with much more knowledge on electrical engineering and audio measurements than you or I on this subject matter and will happily post their responses once I compile enough information to prove something. Until then this should just be left as a controversial topic.
>>69766934doesn't matter. needs proven double blind testing. all the conjecture in the world will not matter until someone can pass a double blind test. cables have capacitance, it doesn't mean it affects the sound. amps and dacs have different levels of distortion, it doesn't mean it's audible. any of your "qualified people" are just speaking out of their ass until they can prove it's audible.
>>69766934>Until then this should just be left as a controversial topic.then why state here >>69766805 as if it were fact?
>>69766956If you’re this stringent about autistic double blind testing then why aren’t you double blind testing every aspect of sound? At this point you’re just autistically sperging at the notion that your shitty $500 energizer may not be sufficient to drive headphones that require high amounts of current. >>69766970Because otherwise is also being stated as a fact?
>>69766979>If you’re this stringent about autistic double blind testing then why aren’t you double blind testing every aspect of sound?because headphones have frequency response differences and wave propagation differences and interactions with the pinna and head. amplifiers have none of this. we know for a fact that headphones sound different because the FR is different. there's no reason to dispute that.
How do those DIY amp kits sound? They look like ass but they're pretty cheap.
>>69766988Good answer>>69766992Then double blind test the existence of soundstage. Or imaging, or instrument seperation, etc. etc.
>>69767010>Then double blind test the existence of soundstage. Or imaging, or instrument seperation, etc. etc.you can go download some HRIR datasets and test different soundstage/image compensations yourself. what does that have to do with an amplifier with a flat frequency response?
>>69767026Because again, you can’t prove that FR is all there is to audio.
>>69767040I didn't say there was and I never have. you keep trying to put words into my mouth. I said that we KNOW that headphones sound different due to FR, I haven't said that FR is the only aspect of audio. in fact I even mentioned more ways than FR here>because headphones have frequency response differences and wave propagation differences and interactions with the pinna and headwith amplifiers we don't know they can change the sound. it has never been prove when FR is flat. there's a $10,000 reward for the first person who can pass a double blind test, go claim it yourself.
>>69767060>with amplifiers we don't know they can change the sound. I’ve said since the beginning that I think only electrostat amps matter because of the fact that electrostats need high amounts of current to run. >there's a $10,000 reward for the first person who can pass a double blind test, go claim it yourself.Your own link lists methodological flaws in that test: the listening volume is often far below standard listening volumes (which we know plays a massive part in audible sound quality), the researcher does not follow up with more trials if there appears to consistently be a pattern of the test subject potentially being able to hear a difference, and the research of course uses standard amps and headphones, which I’ve never claimed are affected by amps.
>>69767109there's no reason to think estats are any different. plenty of snake oil is based on real science, it just happens to not be audible. until you can prove it's audible then it's safe to assume that it's not. the stax mafia does no empirical testing, never has. they have never had any intellectual rigor and they rely on conjecture to sell their amps, whether intentionally or not. an open mind is great but you need to be more skeptical to make sure you haven't drank the wrong koolaid by accident.
>>69767105>>69767114What do you drink now that pbr is too mainstream?
>>69767142>there's no reason to think estats are any different. I just said the reason why I think there’s a difference. Low current means that the drivers will sag. >they have never had any intellectual rigor and they rely on conjecture to sell their amps, whether intentionally or not.I mean, it’s not even like they’re a business with massive profit margins, they provide schematics for their amps should you choose to build your own versions. Either way the main reason no double blind test for this exists is that Stax simply is too niche to command a properly done testing scenario like this. But once I have my responses from actual electrical engineers and audio engineers, I think their word will be worth a little bit more than you just running around claiming “there’s no double blind test so it’s not audible”.
>>69767114You can smell the neckbeard in this picture.
Tried Stax today and oh boy they really do sound like shit, absolutely disgusting experience
>>69767226carpet looks fucking disgusting filthy
>>69766859Do NOT entertain the Stax autists. The reason why they became so toxic on /hpg/ is because people gave them attention.
>>69767201>Low current means that the drivers will sag.slew rate applies to dynamics as well, you know. it's just not audible for dynamics. most likely is the same case for electrostatics when it comes to this industry>I mean, it’s not even like they’re a business with massive profit margins, they provide schematics for their amps should you choose to build your own versionsI have my doubts about that when I see spritzer selling $55 dc adapters for stax amps that you can buy for $5.>Either way the main reason no double blind test for this exists is that Stax simply is too niche to command a properly done testing scenario like thisspritzer and gilmore are so autistic that they have hundreds of amp designs, if not in the thousands. they have never once decided to make a simple blind testing switch. >I think their word will be worth a little bit moreappeal to authority won't get you anywhere>there’s no double blind test so it’s not audibleI choose my words very carefully and while I do slip up on occasion but a more accurate quote would be "it's probably not audible">>69767060see >with amplifiers we don't know they can change the soundyou should choose your words more carefully too before insisting on people buying expensive af amps that they don't need
>>69767269do you just buy random obscure shit just because because some of this just sounds like garbage
>>69767317nvm you're some autist that saved someone else pics and reposting them for autistic reasons
>>69767360I can't even be mad when you're that hipster.
>>69767336you don’t like haino or tatsuya, well...?
>>69767399you don’t like music?
BUYING RIGHT NOW HELP IM HEARING NOTHING>koss sb40>akg k72
>>69767474Hip hop from that era is pretty hipster. More a fan of east coast stuff like Das EFX.
is this the version 2 edition of the smsl su-8?https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DQDNF6S/
>>69765776>stax can make you get shockwow time to never buy stax anymore. I knew it was a shitty meme.