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>Requesting purchase advice
https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

>/g/ headphone wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread:>>69746777
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Yes, stax are good. Yes, they make people mad as fuck. Yes, you should get some.
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>>69765458
Redpill on STAX: STAX is an old Jap company with outdated tech that was considered high end back in the 1960s and 1970s but sounds like ass by today's standards, so they went nearly bankrupt. They were purchased by a Chinese company for just a million dollars who decided to market STAX to the audiophool "more expensive is better" demographic who buys those crappy $3000 vinyl players, they shill heavily on HeadFi and here on /hpg/, plus they pay Zeos to shill their crap just like Fostex does.

>In December 2011, Chinese loudspeaker manufacturer Edifier announced the acquisition of 100% equity in Stax

Oratory has measured the highest end STAX, the SR-009S.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/61srehjyaltd7w0/Stax%20SR-009S.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dm0m6u3s3b4zqzl/Sennheiser%20HD600.pdf?dl=0

It's worse than the HD600. HD600 scored 92 and SR-009S scored 76.

In a separate study:

>The very highest end STAX ($4000 SR-009) was rated lower in blind tests than a $200 K701

http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=17441

Download the PDF of the study at: https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wA

Even best Stax headphones sound objectively worse than mid-fi. This is why they don't demo them in store, they rely on the internet to create a sense of mystique around STAX and shill it as the endgame because its expensive, Asian, rare and obscure. In reality its no bass sounding garbage, with shrill highs that appeal only to near-deaf boomers. And what they say is true, they have no soundstage.
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>>69765475
Way too slow nikki boy ;)
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>>69765475
Based and objectivepilled
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>>69765475
>STAX!
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>>69765458
>arguing about headphones you'll never own
>brandfaggin for a shitty company like Stax
You guys need to stop.
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>expensive import only limited stock with no return option
>ctrl + f stax in previous thread
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Do you think the nostax mafia ever gets bored with this? Like, spamming the same forced memes and copypastas over and over again can’t be terribly entertaining.
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Post magnet-fi garbage.
First to embarrass myself.
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>>69765510
Sometimes I join in with them. Shitting on stax is literally the best way to convince anons to buy stax.
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>>69765502
you know what's funny is that there are probably more stax owners who also own the HD800S than there are HD800 owners without stax. even funnier is that they all agree that stax are better

>>69731408
>By the way since I forgot it earlier, my ranking of the headphones here would be L700 > Lambda Pro > HD800S > Audeze Sine.
>>68971767
>reminder that stax is the true endgame, don't spend money on anything else.
>Coming from a guy who got memed into buying hd800 just to sell it at a loss.
>>67324655
>You clearly have never heard both Bass on Stax lambdas is way better than on hd800 no comparison
>>67324749
>I agree
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>>69765546
>you know what's funny is that there are probably more stax owners who also own the HD800S than there are HD800 owners without stax. even funnier is that they all agree that stax are better
This general also listens to modern edm, deathcore, and the most hipster shit you can imagine (floor anon).
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>>69765563
>none of you actually own this!
>actually plenty of people do!
>y-your music sucks!
Still no reply from benchmark by the way.
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>>69765574
You guys own the bottom tiers of stax headphones and various degrees of garbage amps/dac. So I ignored that bit.
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>>69765510
I believe the image until it is proven wrong
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>>69765585
>i-it doesn’t count because it’s not high tier enough for me!
>a-also your dac sucks!
LMAO
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>>69765585
3 anons with 007, 4 anons with L700/L300L, 2 anons with 006t, 1 anon with 717
ok
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>>69765600
>>69765602
>>i-it doesn’t count because it’s not high tier enough for me!
I only care about sr009s. And there's still the shitshow of Stax amps.
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>>69765602
whoa what three anons have 007 I only know the one the Chiru.no guy that runs the internet radio
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>>69765612
i mean you have shit taste so yeah you would
also 009s is more expensive than your entire mid-fi dynamic setup lol
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>>69765585
are you admitting that the bottom tier of stax headphones with garbage amps sound better than your setup? because it seems to be that way considering quite a few impressions

L M A O
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>>69765612
>it only counts if it’s the model I say counts!
>why this model? because it’s the most expensive lol who cares if it actually sounds good
Genius
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>>69765612
so uhh then only LCD-4 Susvara Utopia matter then? what the hell about all the "Decent" headphones otherwise below
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>>69765619
>also 009s is more expensive than your entire mid-fi dynamic setup lol
Not sure what 3rd worlder currency you're mixxing up but it's not.
>>69765622
Excellent reading comprehension
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>>69765602
theres 3 anons with 404 ;-;
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>>69765618
one guy said he purchased it a few threads ago and one of the archive links here had a pic of another
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>the hardest to obtain headphones have the most shills for them

REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY makes you think
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>>69765636
It literally is, you own $1000 headphones and a $1000 dac amp
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What's the point of stax when you can get neutral headphones like hd600 (which has a closer freq response to speakers)?
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>>69765648
>one guy said he purchased it a few threads ago
probably beyersryche anon, i've been considering the 007 myself but idk if I care
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>>69765651
>hardest to obtain
If you live in a third world toilet bowl maybe.
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>>69765661
i already have ksc75 so no thanks to any of that crap
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>>69765651
>he doesn't get paid to shitpost
maybe you should switch teams
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>>69765651
Stax is like the chainlink of g, totally stinky and only poojeets like them
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>>69765682
>t. increasingly nervous audeze shill
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>>69765664
>usa
>first world
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>>69765660
Seriously though. What 3rd world currency are you fucking up? The whole set up is over $4000 just base price...
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>>69765648
>>69765662
Yeah that was me have them on hold gonna buy with tax refund
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>>69765688
actually this
usa is new world
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will /hpg/ ever go back to those days
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>>69765689
HD800S is $1000 used and you got made fun of a bunch for spending $1000 on snake oil. What else do you own, that's $2000 which is less than 009S.
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>>69765688
>t. Neo middle easterner
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>>69765687
I'm sorry but your shitcoins will never moon and your shitphones will never sound good.
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>>69765689
>he paid 4 grand for a $2000 setup
You got ripped off big time buddy.
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>>69765699
>used
>this absolute monkey thinks the dac3 is really $1000
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>>69765707
now copy my endro reaction images
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>>69765695
i entered in a world of shit and its been shit ever since ;-;
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>>69765710
Why are you so mad, everyone knows that price has no correlation to performance in this hobby. Just ask any of your fellow nostaxers.
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>>69765709
Not really. I only buy direct. And all official Sennhesier outlets are the same price excluding coupons. So if you paid less for your HD800s it has no warranty or you bought them used with aids.

You handlers need to do better research on what a Benchmark DAC costs too.
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>>69765458
>conelrad
based
remember: 640 and 1240
https://youtu.be/LFU6fyTx3eQ
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>>69765475
>this is what the average STAX chink shill looks like
>there are actually western incel weebs who fall for the STAX meme
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>>69765726
It's just painfully obvious you're third world when you can't even get your currency conversion right.
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>>69765714
The fuck do you mean?
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>>69765738
You're assuming that I actually looked up the price of whatever snake oil you own. Which I didn't. Anon said it costs $1000, so it costs $1000. Get fucked.
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>>69765733
no, no, joe <3
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>>69765651
STAX is a niche brand for a niche audience (incel weebs who have disposable income from their jobs but no family/girl to spend the money on). They generally tend to be the autistic nerdy guys who like anime and can't socialize, that is who STAX is targetting, so it makes sense they would pay full time shilling on /hpg/.
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>>69765739
he means youre a fucking nigger
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>buy hd600
>plug it into onboard soundcard
>enjoy pure distilled fidelity

>buy used stax with chink cum stains from japs
>buy used special electrostatic headphone meme amp also with chink cum stains on the pot
>needs a converter to be used in a first world country
>sounds tinny and veiled
>roll over the cable on your chair
>orders replacement detachable cable... oh wait
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>>69765758
You shouldn't be talking when you look like this, incel-kun.
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>>69765710
Alright, let’s play along.
https://www.amazon.com/Benchmark-Reference-Preamplifier-Converter-Asynchronous/dp/B01NAGAAW0?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-iphone-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01NAGAAW0
$2195
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/high-resolution-headphones-3d-audio-hd-800-s
$1700
Total: $3895
SR-009S (their ACTUAL flagship, not the SR-009)
https://staxaudio.com/earspeaker
$4325
This is ignoring the amp which will probably run you another 5 grand.
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>>69765763
lole he is actually mad, how cute :3
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nostaxers need to work on their memes. they are so easily disproven, it's just there's new ones all the time and it's tiresome to spend 5 minutes to retrieve proof

>electrocution
spritzer has been shocked over and over. specs of amps are way below current limits to kill
>dust/build quality
all stax have dust guards, we can present pictures of 50 year old stax that still look good. the 20+ year old stax used market is more popular than any brand
>nobass
head/coupler seal, easily fixed. easy quote of oratory to prove that all stax are linear when sealed. EQ goes the rest of the way
>stax aren't neutral
easily disproven by both graphs and accoustic engineers (oratory thinks the 007 is the most neutral headphone in existence).
>there are no stax owners
easily disprove as seen last thread and this one. can easily acquire more
>stax owners have buyers remorse
yet the impressions remain the same for people who bought the at the same price as an hd600 setup or those who have gone to audition them before they bought
>stax pays shills
except they hate foreigns and don't market at all
>stax is scamming you with their snake oil
except they have almost went bankrupt a couple times due to putting too much money into R&D

it's like you're not even trying anons, step up your game
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>>69765746
>I'm VERYYYY passionate about this hobby but I can't be asked to know fuck all about the best DAC on the consumer market. Or just one of the best companies in the hobby in general. Tough luck pal.
Shitty shill
>>69765768
>3rd party
>zero reading comprehnesion
Amazing edumucationsz
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>>69765767
>posting a 12 year old child vs adult stax incels

Nice try incel
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>>69765770
too late anon, I am already the wataten poster of this thread. you are but a pale imitation, just like your headphones
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>STAX
cringe
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>>69765776
Objectively speaking, no stax headphone can come close to the HD600 for a neutral response.
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>>69765767
not him but what does your post and that pic even imply? you aren't allowed to ever be a child?
you just proved what a pathetic piece of shit human you are because whatever you implied is worse i'm sure
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>>69765765
Or just try not to be autistic with your cables?
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>>69765781
these guys are most likely married ;)
anyways, no need to be mad you don't look that bad for a 12 year old
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>>69765458
If st*x is so amazing how come they have virtually no presence outside of weeb/incel circles?

How come they have no distributors in other countries?

How come stores don't want to demo them?

How come they had to sell out for a mere million of american dollarydoos to the chinks just to avoid closure?
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>>69765777
Find me a cheaper price brand new on any of those. I’ll wait for your total calculation.
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>>69765792
This website is 18+, time to go butthurt kiddo
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Not one of those many shitposters, but are electrostatics that hard or costly to manufacture?
I'm trying to justify the use of plastic everywhere (even if that's sturdy plastic) on most STAX headphones which doesn't feel right for >$700 products.
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>>69765787
>objectively speaking
compensation curves have been not only been debunked by /hpg/ as slipshoddy science but has been improved apon by stax. stax is not your enemy, your autism is
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>>69765782
That just means we are watching the same show anon. Too bad we can't agree on the headphones.
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>>69765796
>most likely married

Incorrect STAX incel. No woman would would ever marry a anime neckbeard who listens to a fucking meme 1970s headphone.
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>>69765802
Wow you're dense retard.
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>if I flood the thread with my collection of unattractive people wearing stax I win!
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>>69765807
>is a pathetic shitstain
>"time go leave our secret club kiddo"
kys thanks
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>>69765808
Nope, they're just super niche and so few are bought that there are no economies of scale.

Its 1970s tech.
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>>69765800
The surge in STAX users here are due to Zeos. Fat weebs are attracted to their own kind.
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>>69765808
nope. and nobody is even trying to steal their tech because it's just bad lol.
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>>69765815
Ouch did I hit a nerve, snapshitter turbocel? I don't think any woman would touch someone who spends their entire existence collecting pictures of people who own headphones they can't afford.
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>>69765825
I didn't ask you, anon. No offense intended.
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>>69765816
Good response. As good as Benchmark’s response to my japanese email (none).
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>>69765831
Sennheiser's flagship is an electrostat :^)
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>>69765808
its cheap shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf38cKJ6NBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwD9tKioa9Q
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>>69765832
>STAX incel thinks I like Sennheiser

Lel. They're both old ass shit riding off their names long after being surpassed by better tech.
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>>69765845
yep and they sound like shit rofl
not a flagship tho
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>>69765827
wait does that mean harman caused the surge in nostaxers?
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>>69765844
Pls post email
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>>69765475
STAX shills on suicide watch.
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>beyerfaggots
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65 (you)a last thread. 83 this thread :^)
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>>69765852
My 25 year old stax doesnt have either of these issues
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Even the japs think stax are shit, they're getting rid of their lambdas to buy hd800s.
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>>69765861
>yep and they sound like shit rofl
all sennheisers sound like shit that's not the fault of the technology
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>>69765897
I'm sorry to hear about your hearing damage
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>>69765912
i didn't try the senns on for that long
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>>69765895
because lambdas have no soundstage and hd800s has the best soundstage on headphones right now
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>>69765844
I'll help you out.
DAC3 $2,195.00
HD800d $1,699.95
That's just under $3900 before taxes and shipping. With tax it added another $200. Shipping for both was free.
The sr009s are just under $4200. I pay no tax for Japshit. EMS costs about $15-$25 for something that size.

The same price effectively and I'd use the DAC3 with the Stax anyway....
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Sennheiser HD280? Now THAT was a set of cans.
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>>69765861
So by that logic 009S isnt the flag ship it would be the L700 since you think HD800S is the he flagship
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>>69765922
>his argument literally relies on taxes
OH NO NO NO
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>>69765934
uh i'm not that person or persons
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>>69765937
Yes what I actually pay for shit... Not online arguments and 3rd worlders that can't into currency rates
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Alright, this general is done. Too bad everywhere else is stuck at believing in myths like silver cables, burn-in or amp synergy.
Looks like you simply cannot discuss audio on the internet.
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>>69765955
you should go to more progressive places like plebbit :^)
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>>69765949
Regardless you said HE-1 isnt a flagship which it most certainly is
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>>69765955
Bye, you won't be missed
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>>69765955
join the staxchads at audiosciencereview
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Hey STAX shills, if STAX is so great how come they had to be sold to the chinks for just one million dollars just to avoid foreclosure?

How come only weebs and deaf boomers like STAX?
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>>69765973
i didn't know oratory1990 was a weeb or a deaf boomer but thanks for the info i guess
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>>69765968
kek'd. I always forget that amir owns a couple omegas
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>>69765955
Its the two STAX shills that have destroyed it by spamming STAX related shit and crapping at every other brand.

Its full time work for them.
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>>69765992
>t. samefagging nostax incel
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>>69765955

this general was done long before this autistic stax shitposting though
people here believe in amp/dacs quality when usb interfaces have existed forever
they think balanced cables does anything for headphones
they buy expensive gear just to EQ headphones
they buy expensive headphones and then put it into shitty expensive gear that colors or degrades the signal
etc
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>>69766008
see you tomorrow
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Keep up the good work lads.
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>>69765922
Hahahahha all these imaginary conjecture taxes lmao
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>>69766017
? i never said i'm leaving
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>>69766026
>imaginary conjecture taxes
Either Marxist or pseudo anarchist commie.
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>>69766032
doesn't seem like you enjoy being here but maybe you're a masochist, I don't know
I thoroughly enjoy the direction /hpg/ has gone though.
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>>69765458
Daily reminder that the LCD2C has lower distortion than STAX, way better soundstage, exponentially better bass, way better build quality.

Its sub 0.1% distortion means you can easily use APO Equilizer to create any sound signature you want without worrying about distortion.
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>>69766045
i like being here as much as i like going to places like headfi to see what dumb shit people make themselves believe in
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>>69766047
>audeze
Haven't looked back since I upgraded to stax. Post some more pics of people wearing stax though.
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>>69766008
The balanced cables simply allow more power to be pushed to the headphones through two channels, which helps with the dynamic range. Its the same reason that you should always max out your computer/dac volume when feeding to the amp.
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>>69766047
Better comfort and you don't look like an incel wearing one.
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>>69766043
It’s simple really, post any evidence that you pay 0 taxes for japanese imports and post evidence that your sales tax is exactly enough to match $200 for a $3900 purchase. I’ll wait.
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>>69766069
i'm sorry but no
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>>69765992
Lol you actually believe this just so you know I have DT880s as well as K400 and will probably pick up a HD600 soon and I really like my Dt880 and K400 and honestly have never shat on a brand just for pure spite And I actually like my K400 more than my DT880 as far as sound goes since stock my vintage DT880 is a bit harsh someone post my graph I know you have it
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>>69766062
Okay stax shill. But the facts and measurements don't change, despite your shilling. STAX is losing its mystique in the age of the Internet, its not the 1970s anymore.
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>>69766008
>>69765955
reminder that if you want everyone to be "woke to snake oil", use the same headphones or EQ to the same response and then expect there to be discussion on audio then you are just absolutely retarded.

go over to hydrogenaud.io.
read their posts.
notice how there is no discussion because there is nothing to discuss.
if you want /hpg/ to be like this then I don't know what to say to you. stop complaining and accept that there are difference of opinions, some valid and some that are not. if you can't do that then just leave.
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>>69766083
The facts are that planars are a pale imitation of stax made by stinky pajeets. There is no "mystique" to stax, if you want mystique buy some MDR-R10s.
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>>69766075
Because I never pay any tax for the japshit I buy? I round it up about $5...!
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>>69766084
>notice how there is no discussion because there is nothing to discuss.
Pretty much, headphones are a stagnated technology. Even the HD800S which many consider the peak of the hobby does nothing new. The only thing being improved on headphones are not related to sound quality but rather wireless connectivity aka bluetooth, and other memes like noise cancelling.
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>>69766109
if you believe that then sign up on hydrogenaud.io and leave us the fuck alone.
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>>69766116
>leave us
I've been on /hpg/ since the beginning. It's not your general, retard.
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>>69766109
The cold hard truth is that ever since the lambda pro was released in 1982, nothing has ever been a meaningful upgrade. Though, comparing dynamics to electrostats is kind of unfair. There has been a fair bit of interesting development in dynamic drivers.
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>>69766084
>you want everyone to use the same headphones or EQ to the same response
i didn't say this though, only listed dumb snakeoil shit.
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>>69766136
Not everyone enjoys the Lambda's sound signature. As evidenced by the many graphs posted here, they've got a lot of issues.
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>>69766124
it's not your general to subvert and use a vehicle for your psuedoscience either. you are the minority, no one gives a shit if you've been here since the beginning. it's not your general either.

pick one of these choices: complain like a little girl about being in the sewers covered in poo but refusing to leave, learn to get along with other people, or LEAVE
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>>69766151
EQ. There are no real issues with the sound, that's all FUD garbage posted by nostaxers.
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>>69766084
Debunking myths is just the beginning of discussion. Getting to true subjectivism just means we can start sharing experiences like junkies.
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>>69766157
Lacks upper midrange and the peaky treble is a problem
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>>69766082
INCEL CAVE
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>>69766198
strong words made by someone who doesn't listen to headphones and only reads graphs
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>>69766198
>that's all FUD garbage posted by nostaxers
>nostaxer posts FUD garbage
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>>69766157
>nostaxers

cringe. You losers are like the Bitcoin cultists calling people nocoiners.

In reality, you're the retards paying a ton of money for something that's absolute garbage.
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>>69766221
You can rationalize it however you want. Most people bought after demoing.
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>>69766221
says the anon who states that /hpg/ is dead but then goes straight back into posting graphs moments later. who's the real loser? move on with your life.
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>>69766225
>most people bought after demoing

lel nice line shill. 99% of headphone stores don't even demo STAX, the excuse they use is that "the dust will ruin them" (TOP KEK)

In reality everyone who would demo them would realize they have no bass, no soundstage and sound like thin, hollow shit that might have sounded impressive back in 1970s.
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>>69766225
>Most people bought after demoing.
yyyyeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh i'll pass on believing this
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>>69766233
he says he comes hear to laugh at us but then gets mad as fuck when people don't agree with him
what a joke, what a cope
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>>69766233
>stax incels telling others they have no life
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>>69766237
>>69766240
This is some serious mental gymnastics.
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>>69766243
you're with us forever anon <3 we've never left and we'll never leave. the only thing that keeps changing is the ever growing stax population that you only help perpetuate
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lel @ STAXfags getting BTFO again on /hpg/

>muh chinkshit headphone
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>>69766250
what's the gymnastics in not believing that?
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>>69766097
So no proof? cool.
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>>69766209
>>69766210
I like how you don't address any of the issues I presented. You act as if Lambdas are neutral, they aren't.
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>>69766255
Nice cope, poocel
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>>69766263
>I like how you don't address any of the issues I presented
feel free to prove your preferred compensation curve is not psuedo-science and is in fact replicable by third parties
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>>69766263
Because STAXfags don't care about that nonsense, like measurements and facts. They just "feel" like STAX sounds better, just like their $2000 audio cables and $4000 vinyl players.
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>>69766263
Because it's literally been addressed before, hundreds of times. There's no convincing someone who's embedded so deeply in his "STAX bad" dogma, so just go fucking try the things.
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>>69766285
>just go fucking try the things.
lmao where?
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>>69766292
Figure it out bud. I'm not your mom.
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NOOO SENNBROS WE CAN'T LET THE STAXCHADS WIN
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>>69766292
you're not a budget objectivist are you?
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>>69765546
sorry i don't believe or have very hard time trusting someone that buys snakeoil cables so most of your pics are invalid
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>>69766302
what? just tell me where i can try them or buy with return option in europe.
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no (you) for you, none of those pics have snakeoil cables
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>>69766258
What do you want? My checking account history?
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>>69766272
>hurr durr pseudoscience
I posted issues with the STAX Lambda and that's your response? Anyone who listens to loudspeakers regularly would be able to pick up on the recessed upper midrange and peaky treble. I'm guessing you guys aren't the best of listeners.
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>>69766303
those are all stock cables.
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>>69766303
>everyone i don’t like buys snakeoil cables
>the emotional child’s guide to headphone discussion
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>>69766308
they had them in their previous or later pictures.
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>>69766309
Would be better proof than the absolute nonexistent amounts of evidence you’ve posted here. Nonexistent like benchmark’s email.
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>>69766322
link?
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>>69766328
K, bud
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>>69766315
Why don't you show us measurements of your loudspeakers in your room then so we can compare?
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>>69766338
Well, where is it? I’m waiting.
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>>69766308
>>69766316
>>69766319
>three people respond to one persons post to defend it
what in the fuck is wrong with your heads retards
>>69766332
that guy that posts pictures of shit on the floor, and the other guy with the rack and vinyl player
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>>69766315
this isn't an argument and you haven't proven anything. from the start you are just asserting your opinion and interpretation of a graph and this is why you are a psuedo-scientist.
>I'm guessing you guys aren't the best of listeners.
try them yourself, we value opinions and impressions of stax (with a timestamp of course)
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>>69766353
>with a timestamp of course
This is where they all fail. Many such cases. Sad!
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>>69766352
>what in the fuck is wrong with your heads retards
omg how dare multiple people actually RESPOND to the same person they’re like cyber bullying him
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>>69766352
>that guy that posts pictures of shit on the floor, and the other guy with the rack and vinyl player
literally everyone hates floor anon. he has everything. he has your headphones too probably, but since we are doing guilt by association then I guess you're a snake oil faggot too!
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>>69766374
floor anon is the last boss of /hpg/
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>>69766353
I've tried various Omegas and Lambdas, they don't sound tonally correct to me. Even a cheapo DT880 ore HD600 sounds more accurate.
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>>69766368
that would mean they had to read it and click and the replies too just to even know what it's about and why would you do that? fucking autism general
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>>69766347
It's basic knowledge if you buy stuff from japan.
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>>69766387
omg clicking is so hard how does this website work wtf what is >>
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>>69766384
Look, I can do it too:
I've tried the HD900 and DT1880, they don't sound tonally correct to me. Even a cheapo DT770 ore HD630VB sounds more accurate.
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>>69766384
considering I've never seen someone claim they hate stax over the years and provide timestamped proof with that claim I'm going to have to be skeptical that you even own headphones
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>>69766389
So basic you can’t provide proof it exists.
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>>69766390
or just get a life retard
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>>69766384
congratulations you have working ears
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>>69766403
Buy something from japan.
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>>69766407
fucking incels and their complex incel website...
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after trying every headphone in existence i can say that i am a massive faggot please fuck my face
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>>69766420
retard.
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>>69766398
>>69766401
Are you guys so invested in your stacks that you think it's impossible for someone to not enjoy them? I think this conversation's over.
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>>69766422
who was it spamming pictures of people wearing stax
oh wait
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>>69766419
Provide proof that japanese purchases are tax free no matter the quantity or value and that $3900 worth of purchases gives you exactly $200 in sales tax.
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>>69766306
>>69766302
helllloooooo
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>>69766429
No I don't believe any shit anyone posts on the internet because it's the fucking internet. Pics or it didn't happen has been a thing since 4chan's inception.
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>>69766434
Buy something from japan.
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>>69766450
Provide proof that japanese purchases are tax free no matter the quantity or value and that $3900 worth of purchases gives you exactly $200 in sales tax.
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>>69766429
They're not invested in them, they're being paid by Edifier to shill it here. All it takes is one guy samefagging to try and make it look like STAX is this widely loved thing. Its a fucking joke.
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>>69766442
>expects him to post pics of the stax he auditioned
You stax shills sure are fucking stupid.
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>>69766429
>you think it's impossible for someone to not enjoy them?
I unironically believe this and have yet to see proof of any impression on any site leading me to believe otherwise.
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>>69766452
Go buy $4000 with of onaholes and lube. Have fun.
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>>69766453
if they're being paid they sure as fuck are fucking retarded for not even being able to provide any way to buy them, seems like it's literally impossible unless you buy them used in USA
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>>69766453
>doesnt get paid
>sits there getting butthurt at people who are getting paid
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>>69766466
I’ll leave that to weeb retards like you.
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>>69766473
>stax fanboy calling me a weeab
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Are we being raided? What the fuck is up with all the frothing at the mouth nostax rage?
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>>69766438
there's probably a reseller in europe that will give you a return policy. if there isn't your excuse isn't going to work for much longer, japan and the EU have struck a trade agreement

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-and-japan-create-worlds-biggest-free-trade-zone/a-47319521

don't blame stax for europe having garbage commie restrictions and tariffs.
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>>69766478
>has an anime bluray sitting on top of his DAC3
>complains about being called a weeb
>>69766482
We’ve been astroturfed for the last month. Get used to it.
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>>69766482
haha fucking epic dude
get banned already
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>>69766490
Someone’s upset.
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>>69766489
Ok you got me.
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>>69766489
>>69766482
we've been raided since a month or two before christmas, actually
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>17ips
>223 posts
You incels sure are something else. Even if we give 3 separate IPs to each nostax poster.
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>ctrl + f stax
>17 posters
>115 results
fucking turbo lmao
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>tfw you finish a listening session with your senns
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What was the website where you could import headphones directly from Japan? I think it went down recently?
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>>69766505
>>69766507
>handlers can't coordinate and their slaves are now duplicating posts
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>>69766516
buyee
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>>69766516
buyee or audiocubes
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>>69766521
Thanks
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>>69766518
just like how a cheap DAC can duplicate the sound your $1000 snake oil makes
I'll admit that one was a stretch.
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>>69766531
are you looking to become a stax owner?
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>>69766438
https://stax-international.com/distributors/europe/
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>>69765876
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>>69766627
Stax needs to fire these other handlers and hire this guy.
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>>69766543
>.> I'm just looking
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>STAX
No. Fucking. Bass.
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>>69766706
rent free
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>>69766627
Holyshit based as fuck
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>>69766706
>AT&T Communications CEO John Donovan recently defended the 5G E branding, saying AT&T's rivals are "frustrated" and that "I have now occupied beachfront real estate in my competitors' heads."
>>69766710
this
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>>69765662
I too have been considering 007 but I would like to demo them first
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>bulky on-ear hybrids
what in the absolute fuck is the point of these?
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>>69766760
for what it's worth they respond well to pad swapping. if you don't like it you can do that, or ask maki for some of his EQs, or just sell it
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>>69766760
Just remember that in order to sound good, 007 need to be blutack sealed and need a powerful amp. But the results are basically the best thing to come from Stax.
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Tack mod guide for 007?
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>>69766805
>Just remember that in order to sound good
>need a powerful amp
i'm trying really hard not to call you out on this but if you preface it with "people say" rather than "I know for a fact without any proof" I wouldn't have an issue
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>>69765458
I didn't know we had a new thread wtf.
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>buy O2 amp
>get it engraved
>buy stax a month later
>never use O2 again
fug
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>>69766805
Does the beefier amp really make a difference. In still using the 252s right now
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If st*x is so amazing then how come nobody relevant from the audio industry endorses them, other than that one boomer STAXshills always bring up?

How come they have virtually no presence?

How come they have no distributors in other countries?

How come they had to sell out for a mere million of american dollarydoos to the chinks just to avoid closure?
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>>69766805
>STAX shills trying to upsell their shitty meme amps to make STAX "sound good"

When will this scam end?
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>>69766849
they're about as present as Audeze, ZMF, et. al. are
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>>69766859
when /g/ gets competent janitors/mods
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>>69766846
no
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>>69766871
beyers
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>>69766874
which model?
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>>69766834
It’s a current thing. Allegedly the 007 needs 19ma of current to run at 118dB. Basically all the stax amps fall short of that by a long shot. But since you seem to be really interested in this topic I have shot several more qualified people a message on this question which I will update later on.
>>69766846
A 252 is not gonna be loud enough for a 007, nevermind have enough current for it.
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>>69766863
no
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>>69766893
>A 252 is not gonna be loud enough for a 007, nevermind have enough current for it.
first part is straight up false, second is conjecture and needs to be proven with double blind testing
>>69709907
>>69709946
>>69710023
gets plenty loud with no change in frequency response and only a small distortion increase which is safe to assume that it's inaudible. no changes in phase or group delay either, only at below 40hz which is certainly not going to be audible.
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>>69766894
lmao go to any audio forum
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>>69766917
Like I said, I’ve messaged several people with much more knowledge on electrical engineering and audio measurements than you or I on this subject matter and will happily post their responses once I compile enough information to prove something. Until then this should just be left as a controversial topic.
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>>69766933
no
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>>69766934
doesn't matter. needs proven double blind testing. all the conjecture in the world will not matter until someone can pass a double blind test. cables have capacitance, it doesn't mean it affects the sound. amps and dacs have different levels of distortion, it doesn't mean it's audible. any of your "qualified people" are just speaking out of their ass until they can prove it's audible.
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>>69766934
>Until then this should just be left as a controversial topic.
then why state here >>69766805 as if it were fact?
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>>69766956
If you’re this stringent about autistic double blind testing then why aren’t you double blind testing every aspect of sound? At this point you’re just autistically sperging at the notion that your shitty $500 energizer may not be sufficient to drive headphones that require high amounts of current.
>>69766970
Because otherwise is also being stated as a fact?
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>>69766979
Idiot...
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>>69766979
>If you’re this stringent about autistic double blind testing then why aren’t you double blind testing every aspect of sound?
because headphones have frequency response differences and wave propagation differences and interactions with the pinna and head. amplifiers have none of this. we know for a fact that headphones sound different because the FR is different. there's no reason to dispute that.
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How do those DIY amp kits sound? They look like ass but they're pretty cheap.
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>>69766988
Good answer
>>69766992
Then double blind test the existence of soundstage. Or imaging, or instrument seperation, etc. etc.
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>>69767010
>Then double blind test the existence of soundstage. Or imaging, or instrument seperation, etc. etc.
you can go download some HRIR datasets and test different soundstage/image compensations yourself. what does that have to do with an amplifier with a flat frequency response?
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>>69767026
Because again, you can’t prove that FR is all there is to audio.
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>>69767040
I didn't say there was and I never have. you keep trying to put words into my mouth. I said that we KNOW that headphones sound different due to FR, I haven't said that FR is the only aspect of audio. in fact I even mentioned more ways than FR here
>because headphones have frequency response differences and wave propagation differences and interactions with the pinna and head

with amplifiers we don't know they can change the sound. it has never been prove when FR is flat. there's a $10,000 reward for the first person who can pass a double blind test, go claim it yourself.
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>>69767060
>with amplifiers we don't know they can change the sound.
I’ve said since the beginning that I think only electrostat amps matter because of the fact that electrostats need high amounts of current to run.
>there's a $10,000 reward for the first person who can pass a double blind test, go claim it yourself.
Your own link lists methodological flaws in that test: the listening volume is often far below standard listening volumes (which we know plays a massive part in audible sound quality), the researcher does not follow up with more trials if there appears to consistently be a pattern of the test subject potentially being able to hear a difference, and the research of course uses standard amps and headphones, which I’ve never claimed are affected by amps.
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>>69767109
there's no reason to think estats are any different. plenty of snake oil is based on real science, it just happens to not be audible. until you can prove it's audible then it's safe to assume that it's not. the stax mafia does no empirical testing, never has. they have never had any intellectual rigor and they rely on conjecture to sell their amps, whether intentionally or not. an open mind is great but you need to be more skeptical to make sure you haven't drank the wrong koolaid by accident.
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>>69767105
>>69767114
What do you drink now that pbr is too mainstream?
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>>69767142
>there's no reason to think estats are any different.
I just said the reason why I think there’s a difference. Low current means that the drivers will sag.
>they have never had any intellectual rigor and they rely on conjecture to sell their amps, whether intentionally or not.
I mean, it’s not even like they’re a business with massive profit margins, they provide schematics for their amps should you choose to build your own versions. Either way the main reason no double blind test for this exists is that Stax simply is too niche to command a properly done testing scenario like this. But once I have my responses from actual electrical engineers and audio engineers, I think their word will be worth a little bit more than you just running around claiming “there’s no double blind test so it’s not audible”.
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>>69767114
You can smell the neckbeard in this picture.
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Tried Stax today and oh boy they really do sound like shit, absolutely disgusting experience
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>>69767226
carpet looks fucking disgusting filthy
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>>69766859
Do NOT entertain the Stax autists. The reason why they became so toxic on /hpg/ is because people gave them attention.
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>>69767201
>Low current means that the drivers will sag.
slew rate applies to dynamics as well, you know. it's just not audible for dynamics. most likely is the same case for electrostatics when it comes to this industry
>I mean, it’s not even like they’re a business with massive profit margins, they provide schematics for their amps should you choose to build your own versions
I have my doubts about that when I see spritzer selling $55 dc adapters for stax amps that you can buy for $5.
>Either way the main reason no double blind test for this exists is that Stax simply is too niche to command a properly done testing scenario like this
spritzer and gilmore are so autistic that they have hundreds of amp designs, if not in the thousands. they have never once decided to make a simple blind testing switch.
>I think their word will be worth a little bit more
appeal to authority won't get you anywhere
>there’s no double blind test so it’s not audible
I choose my words very carefully and while I do slip up on occasion but a more accurate quote would be "it's probably not audible"
>>69767060
see >with amplifiers we don't know they can change the sound
you should choose your words more carefully too before insisting on people buying expensive af amps that they don't need
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>>69767269
do you just buy random obscure shit just because because some of this just sounds like garbage
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>>69767304
Huh?
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>>69767317
nvm you're some autist that saved someone else pics and reposting them for autistic reasons
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>>69767195
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>>69767360
I can't even be mad when you're that hipster.
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>>69767336
you don’t like haino or tatsuya, well...?
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>>69767399
you don’t like music?
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BUYING RIGHT NOW HELP IM HEARING NOTHING
>koss sb40
>akg k72
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>>69767474
Hip hop from that era is pretty hipster. More a fan of east coast stuff like Das EFX.
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is this the version 2 edition of the smsl su-8?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DQDNF6S/
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>>69765776
>stax can make you get shock
wow time to never buy stax anymore. I knew it was a shitty meme.



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