Assemble a part listhttps://pcpartpicker.com/>Example gaming builds; click on blue titles to see noteshttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/>How to assemble a PChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g Want help?>State the budget & CURRENCY>Post at least some attempt at a parts list>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)CPUs based on current pricing:>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos)>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs>i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti | If you can't afford to spend 350 dollar on a CPU go with AMD.>R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDTRAM:>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3400CL16 is ideal>All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMPGraphics cards based on current pricing:>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty1080p>GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 for older or less demanding titles>RTX 2060 thanks to 6gb VRAM is only good as a short-term solution; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 561440p>RTX 2070; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 ONLY if on sale>RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerate and you have a CPU and monitor to match2160p (4k)>RTX 2080>RTX 2080 Ti is better, but very expensiveGeneral:>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor>Bottleneck checkers are worthless>https://rentry.co/pcbg-more
First for GTX 1660
How is this? Sorry first time buildhttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/Phoenixel/saved/GY6yf7
This is my current build, I want to upgrade my monitor and maybe use my current one as a second monitor for browsing and stuff. I am sick of getting screen tears and fps drops in games, what monitor should I get? Budget: 400 euroPurpose: Gaming mainly
90% of the questions in this thread could be answered by reading the OP
>>69762734Sorry forgot to say, it's for gaming. Budget >1600
>>69762771And again 1609>>69762771USD*
used 2700X with no cooler, no warranty and no invoice, won on the GamesCom last year for 245€ y/n?
>>69762804Depends on how abused it was
>>69762804>no warranty>no coolerHell no.
>AMD shill OP>has pic showing AMD getting btfo by intelWhat did he mean by this?
>>69762904I was wondering that myself. Because its not accurate? So ironic? Is that irony?I dunno
>>69762674>1440p >a good CPU testPick one
>>69762870according to the guy it was used 5 days on gamescom for a show case, no overclocking and has been collecting dust ever since.>>69762887I would replace the cooler anyway since I plan to overclock it and did you ever have a CPU fail on you? even my longest running cpu had the mobo, gpu and hdd die and survived them all.the current market price for a complete 2700X with warranty of ~2 years and cooler is 270-290€
>>69762937If that's the price for a new one, grab a new one. Fuck that noise.
Around what modern(ish) CPU is the equivalent to a 2500k @ 4.6ghz? Just curious.
>>69762951thats the price for a used one.new one with 3 years of warranty and division 2 costs 315€ + shipping
should i upgrade? my rig is about 6-7 years old now. rocking an i3 with 7000 series radeon gpu. i just play r6s and now apex at 1080p60 with low-medium settings. thinking of streaming for fun too.was thinking of r5 2600x with rx 580 8gb vram and 16 gb ddr4-3200 ram.
>>69762931This, we need 480p benchmarks to compare 365 fps vs 355 fps
>>69762997go for it, although I would consider a vega 56
>>69762966https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jiXkrRoD4w&t=653sA quad core ryzen or ~3.8-4GHz intel quadcore is around the same.
>>69762966My wife is so cute
>>69763068Thanks anon. Amazing how a 8 years old still going hanging on.
>>69763197Not that amazing when you consider the CPUs in current gen consoles are barely faster than last gen.Though it is pretty amazing most titles aren't completely garbage ports.
>>69763069OH NO NOO
For video games and multitasking, is there any reason to choose 32GB of RAM over 16GB?
Why can't I change gpu fan speed with MSI Afterburner? I'm using a 2080
>Nzxt h500 somehow has better gpu temps than stock meshify cWhat wizardry is this?
How do you calibrate a monitor? I want to change the Brightness 50,80,100,120,200cd/m2 levels but I cant find them on the monitor menu. I have a dell s2417dg btw
>>69763250RAM amount is directly proportional to your usage. If you hit the pagefile then get more RAM
>>69763298Enable manual fan control in the setting menu
I'm too lazy and retarded to build a PC, I'm gona buy this build, is it a good deal?
Would an asus vivobook with a ryzen 5 2500u be a good laptop ? Theirs one for 650 cad
>>69763362If you must buy a prebuilt, at least get it from iBuyPower. They show the full specs and you can customize what you want. Store prebuilts are so damn trash, they don't even tell you the ram speed, Mobo, PSU, or even what cooler it has. For all we know they cheaped out a fuck ton those and you end up with a PC that performs worse due to throttling and crappy components.
>>69763362Now that's a shit deal if I've ever sen one. I hope you don't actually think you should buy this, where is this even from? media markt?
>>69762997r5 will be good for streaming, 16gb 3200mhz is also pretty damn good. 580 is going to be enough for 1080p 60hz, but you can also check for used cards, some pretty good deals too
>>69763390You can build a 40% more powerful pc for the same price
>>69763326Looks good but I don't know about that ssd. Why not a 970?
>>69763358I can't find it. There's nothing in the other menus either
>>69763414Yeah it's Mediamarkt but Saturn has them too, it's a little cheaper there
>>69763440How much more ?
>>69763438How so? I put the same parts in PCpartpicker and it shows more or less the same price, pic related,
>>69762762FPS drops have hardly anything to do with your monitor. Screen tearing can be get rid of with a nice monitor with adaptive sync though.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjgZmqI have a gtx 1060 3gb, and a hdd and 2 ssds. What should I add or change? I plan on getting a gtx 2060 in a month or two so my 1060 will stay for now.
>>69763452Quite a bit actually. I'm not saying the crucial is bad, it's just their first NVME drive and I haven't heard much about it yet.
>>69763238My benchmark > your benchmark
>>69763472https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4k7MHhYou should prioritize spending more on gpu than cpu
>>69763472Why do people buy AIOs for non overclockable CPUs? Absolute waste.
>>69763498Serious overkill on the PSU. Save some money on that and get faster ram since ryzen scales up with ram speed
>>69762768>90% of 2
>>69763362NZXT also have a decent building site
>>69763445There should be a fan tab if there is none try the Beta version of Afterburner
>>69763551G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 MemoryIs this good or should I get something else? And I plan on getting a much better card later on so im assuming if the psu will be good for that
>>69763548>Why do people buy AIOs? Absolute waste.ftfy
>>69763300The negative pressure meme
>>69763728>anandtech>not a respectable site
>>69758593>That is just a personal choice. Personally, I'd recommend the opposite.>a 1.5k graphics card will last longer than 3 years usuallyI specifically recommended the strategy based on predictions about the market in the future, not the past. Gains in ray/path tracing are going to be rapid compared to recent rasterisation improvements and market conditions are shaping up for prices to fall far more quickly than they have during the shortages of the last few years.
Any tips on bending these little guys
Did I fuck up buying a hyper 212 for my R5 2600? Planning to OC
>>69762674>tfw Radeon VIIHoly shit, the default fan profile is garbage. How the fuck did it ship with this?You can fix it with a curve in the drivers, but goddamn it's so bad at default.
>>69763893You were meant to wait for Navi. They don't even want people to buy VII, that's why it's expensive and dodgy.
rate my new gaymen buildmaybe im gonna switch to a real 4k monitor but muh ultrawide assholehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/J6ZWsZ
>>69763869mini pipe benders
>>69763957>justwaitNah. I had a budget of $700 for a new GPU, and don't want to buy nvidia.
>>69763991how tight are compression fittings supposed to be, because i tightened them all the way and i can pull out the tube with ok force
>>69763652I have that exact ram in cl14. Good shit, and can be tuned with ryzen dram calculator for even more gains. Also bear in mind the stock cooler is fine for stock clocks, but any serious OC will need a better cooler. Pbo/xfr is better than manual oc anyway
When is the 3700x most likely to come out? Let's put our brains together and think about this.https://www.strawpoll.me/17413643
>>69763960You can get better PSUs for cheaper. If you don't need wifi you can get a cheaper board too but if you do then not much choice. 8/10 similar to mine
>>69763992Congrats on wasting $700 because you care about brands.
Are there any reliable rumors/leaks about Navi?I've wanted to do a build with a CPU and CPU of the same brand for so long.I just need AMD to get their fucking GPU shit together, and make something like a GTX 1080 for an amazing price or something that's better than a 1080 Ti, for me to be able to justify buying a GPU from them.I'd like to be able to push 100-120FPS on a 3440x1440p monitor, while also going with the same brand for CPU and GPU for AESTHETIC.
>>69764080I voted for May because I'm trying to be optimistic and really want to do a new (hopefully full) AMD build for my birthday.Although, I doubt Navi will be out around the same time or before Zen 2, and Radeon VII looks like a bad purchase for only video games.
>>69763706Seems like a nice meme to me
>>69764206I'm holding my finger on the trigger on a 9900k system and I'm also considering waiting for either the 3700x or the 3850x. How likely is it that the 3700x will outperform the 9900k in gaming?
Is Ryzen 5 2600 good enough for streaming or will I need to shell out for Ryzen 7 2700?
>>69764183Sony's funding and working with AMD on Navi for the PS5. It's going to be 4k 60fps plus ray tracing and it will be relatively cheap.
I have a 1600x. Is it shit now 2 years later?
>>69764243>How likely is it that the 3700x will outperform the 9900k in gaming?Considering AMD showed a CPU at CES that isn't even fully finished our perform the i9-9900K, it's guaranteed.The best part about that is, there's a lot of credible leaks that indicate the CPU that AMD used to barely beat the i9-9900K is not only slightly better, while requiring slightly less watts, BUT it's also likely a Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X that they managed to do that with.
>>69762674Rate my build, /pcbg/https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fh2jMZ
>>69764338...playing my favourite game "cinebench"
>>69764305Fuck, stop giving me realistic information that drastically increases my hype.I want to believe so fucking bad that you're right, but AMD's graphics division keeps disappointing.If I can get a Navi GPU that's more powerful than a 1080 Ti for less than $700, I'll fucking cry tears of show.
>>69764338That was a synthetic benchmark utilizing all the cores though. How many cores did the AMD CPU at CES have?Gaming will benefit more from high clocks on fewer cores.
>>69764171>buying NvidiaDriver hell is real on linux, gaymur pleb
>>69764373Even if the Ryzen 5 3600X is slightly worse than the i9-9900K for video games, it's going to cost $250 at the most.That's a slightly worse performing CPU in video games for half the price.Only a man child Incel shill would act like that isn't a big deal.>>69764376tears of joy.*Jesus I can't type for shit.
>>69763879check if it has the proper brackets for am4, otherwise it's gonna mount sideways. it's not the absolute best but still pretty good, slap a 2nd fan on it for better results
>>69764394>How many cores did the AMD CPU at CES have?8-cores, 16-threads. Which is what the Risen 5 line is supposed to move to.Ryzen 7 is supposed to be 12-cores, 24-threads.So the Ryzen 5 3600X will likely be the best or second best (second to i9-9900K) CPU for video games, at only $200-$250.
>>69764376They only disappointed with the VII because they are so confident about their future stuff and they're happy to lower expectations now and blow everyone away at the end of the year. VII is literally a canceled project that they decided to release anyway to give more time to perfect Navi.
>>69764500That's what I've heard from the rumors, but AMD also fucked up with Vega, and they never managed to release a high-end RX 500 series GPU.They haven't been able to release a decent high-end GPU at decent price for, what, over 4 years?That's extremely concerning.
>>69764547No sense releasing uncompetitive stuff when you can go all out focus for something 5 years down the road that can dominate. Zen's just coming together now, hopefully Navi is the same.
PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ld3QMZPrice breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ld3QMZ/by_merchant/CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($228.00 @ Canada Computers) Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.90 @ Vuugo) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon Canada) Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($269.99 @ Amazon Canada) Total: $738.88Do you think you'd be able to stream Apex Legends with this at 1080p with a 60Hz monitor? I already have a case, PSU, storage.Would you say these brands and parts are of good quality?Any bottlenecks or imbalances in the parts chosed?
The drone cope here is hilarious. They still think amd will deliver something good after 5 years of disappointment.You say the same shit every year, just stop.
>>69764590>No sense releasing uncompetitive stuff when you can go all out focus for something 5 years down the road that can dominate.The thing that's wrong with that reasoning is that it's literally impossible for chip designers to plan that far ahead.So there's no way that AMD avoided spending the money to make a good, high-end GPU for 5 years just because they thought they could spend that money to make an absolutely amazing high-end GPU years down the road.>Zen's just coming together now, hopefully Navi is the same.That's my hope, as well. Hopefully some of the money they made from Zen has been helping fund Navi, too.>>69764658Could they? Yes, company pull themselves out of the mud and ahead in the race after a few years all the time, especially in technology.Will they? AMD obviously has a history of either failing on their own or getting screwed over by Intel or Nvidia, because AMD seems to refuse to fight dirty like them (which they hopefully will start to, if they ever take the lead far enough).The real question is for people like you, why wouldn't YOU want that?We need better competition in the GPU market. We FINALLY have it in the CPU market.Even if you dick ride Intel or Nvidia, it only helps you, too, for AMD to become better than them because it'll for Intel and Nvidia to compete harder.
>>69764026i dont know, iv never done it. just a plumber passing through.But i would say they are not compressed enough if you can just pull them out.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMzpvnDo I really NEED a 2600 for 1080p max settings gaming? It’s only another $50 and it comes with 4.2SSE capability that a lot of games are requiring (have a q9400 now)I’ve got a evga 1050 3gb now and the 570 should add another 20+ fps from what I’ve seen.
should i buy 3 rbg corsair fans or 3 cute noctua ones?
>>69764752PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMzpvnPrice breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMzpvn/by_merchant/CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC) Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00) Headphones: Beyerdynamic - DT 770 PRO HT Headphones (Purchased For $0.00) Total: $519.85Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-11 19:45 EST-0500
>>69764752You really need an SSD, might as well get the 2600x too
>>69764655Basically same build as you but I cheaped out on memory and went with a 570Apex Legends is honestly why I’m upgrading
Would a nh-c14s interfere with the drive cage in an ncase?
>>69764775>Apex Legends is honestly why I’m upgradingHunt:Showdown for me
I have 500$ to upgrade my PC. Main uses are editing/motion graphics(Premiere/After Effects) What will give me the most performance for my budget? I'm thinking Ryzen 5+motherboard+more ram but idk for sure.
>>69764449Looks like it supports AM4. I think I'll just get an AIO down the track anyway considering that's what my H500 is designed for.
>>69764871I'm still rocking an Agility 3 myself.
So is oled really the best gaming monitor for gaming?
Old PSU finally shitting the bricks from a 2011 build with a 2500k and HD6950. Been randomly shutting down and sometimes won't POST after it shuts down. 12V rail is at 10.5V and I couldn't even see a 5V rail , possibly around 3V maybe (via some pcfanspeed application)My question is have TDP requirements increased notably that i should overbuy a psu? This one looks like a corsair bronze 750w. Wanna go full AMD, ryzen+almost top of the line gpu.
>have Status_Device_Power_Failure bluetooth failure>restart/full shutdown didn't work>drivers from Mobo manufacture and Intel both didn't work>default Windows driver didn't work>reset BIOS didn't work>checked everywhere and was running out of ideas, about to reinstall Windows>found a Microsoft Community post that no one else replied to that mentioned it's due to static buildup and I should unplug power cord and hold down power button to flush power>X doubt.jpg>it actually fucking workedWell I'll be damned.
NZXT mobos look so nice, shame they don't have a TR4.
>>69764900https://www.microcenter.com/product/5002574/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-with-wraith-spire-cooler,-asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-cpu---motherboard-bundlehttps://www.microcenter.com/product/481738/ripjaws-v-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit$380 gets you a significant upgrade. Put the $120 left over to say a second hand 1070ti/2060
>>69765154That’s so minimalistically sexy. I love it
>>69764739He doesn't want it because he's a massive cocksucker who jerks it over 1080p benches. They all are. Literally anyone who buys Intel and Nvidia at this point does not want competition in the space, and wants to pay $1,300 for a GPU that's eclipsed in two years.>MUH 10% HIGHER PERF AT 1080P AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
>>69764767Have a 512gb Samsung evo that’s still doing wellI’m trying to cut cost at this point without diminishing returns
>>69765198I live about 15 minutes from a micro center That motherboard seems overpriced, why is it worth it?
90€ premium for B-Die FlareX RAM or just say fuck it and get CL15 3000MHz? 90€ can almost get me up a tier in GPU. It can't be worth it, right?
>>69764944It's the best type of panel technology. OLED isn't a monitor you fucking retard.
>>69765154That looks like a thermal problem waiting to happen.
>>69765216That's more gaudy than minimalistic imo.
>>69765216>minimalistic>useless shrouds everywhere
Whatever happened to DSR? It was shown off frequently when Maxwell launched and now it's pretty much been forgotten. Was it even anything special to begin with?
looking for a low budget gaming PC with a 2200Gwhats a good mobo and ram?
>>69766192Buildzoid said some Asus TUF B450 is the best motherboard for APU overclocking.So you'd want something like that.I'll see if I can find a link to the exact mobo.
>>69766192>>69766239Found it, this will likely be the best motherboard for APUs (CPUs with integrated GPUs), especially for overclocking.It's not released, yet, but it should be released very soon.https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-B450-PRO-GAMING/
>>69766192>>69766239>>69766287There's also a Micro-ATX version.https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-B450M-PRO-GAMING/
>>69766404Looks good! Could probably go cheaper on the HDD (Green) and the ram (intel isn’t as dependant on high speed ram as Ryzen). Swap the SSD to a M.2 and you’re done
>>69765472B-Die was only really important with Ryzen 1 where it was the only thing you could run consistently. Even then the benefit of fast RAM has been overstated. Outside of odd cases like Fallout 4 it's like a 5% difference. Go slightly above the price point of 2133 but absolutely don't spend a 90 euro premium on it, especially when you aren't already at the top tier of everything, I'd honestly rate it below upgrading case fans in terms of importance.
>>69766404>Too expensive HDD, no need to get a wd black>get the 9600k instead
>>69766468Monitor to? Thanks dude! >>69766661I would but dosent it need a bios update for Mobo then?
>>69766723just pick a z390 board.
Really a dumb question but whatever.Ever since I got these new fans on front intake (Replaced no-names with 3x Arctic P12 PST PWM) my computer sometimes makes these singing noises, almost like harmonics or something.How the fuck do I fix that? It's only slightly louder than my HDD but sounds very weird, almost like wind singing through a narrow tunnel.
>>69766404For $80 more you can get a 27" or 32" 1440p 144Hz VA monitor so consider that.
>>69766723So long as you’re gaming at 1080p and don’t wanna upgrade sure. Personally I got the Acer and loving it.
>>69766757Did you screw your fans to the frame properly? Could be a small gap between the fan and the mount that’s having air squeezed through it, making that singing/whistling noise.
I got my new pc today and I noticed a high pitched noise from my PSU when the computer is off. Is there any way to fix this or is it going to be a problem in the future? I can't find any info about this.
This would be such a fun Micro-ATX APU build.I'd love to build this for someone to use in their bedroom or living room for more casual vidya, or to eventually do that myself.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6B6KTB
>>69764171Just because I buy AMD doesn't mean I love them. Nvidia can die in a fire for making the GPU space what it is. Here's hoping those fuckers fall in several years when ASICs take over their niche.
Does 8-cores serve any real benefit to most AAA games, over 4-cores?
>>69764243>How likely is it that the 3700x will outperform the 9900k in gaming?It's iffy whether or not it'll match the 9900K in current games let alone beat it.The vast majority of games dont benefit from more than 4 cores 8 threads and none need more than 6 cores 12 threads so it's not going to get any lead on the 9900K with more cores.We only know how Zen 2 performs in cinebench which is a very memory agnostic workload.The separate memory controller absolutely will increase latency to system memory, but we dont know how much and the larger cache will mitigate this somewhat and that'll somewhat depend on optimisation on the dev's part as well.And we have no idea what clocks we can expect. We just have a drunken scottish leaker that claims he could somehow tell what the final clocks would be on products that were over half a year away and the stand alone fact that the 8 core at CES "wasnt final clocks" but that could also mean the clocks might be lower. We dont know anything basically. I expect something like 4.8GHz boost might be doable for 3rd gen with more on 7nm+, but that's just my personal speculation.
Anyone know whats a good case similar to the h630? Moving from the states to the Eu to take care of family it would be to expensive to ship over.
>>69767165And how would a 5Ghz 9900k compare to a 4.8Ghz 3700x?Comparing 2700x and 9900k:Normalized gaming performance:9900k: 1032700x: 775Ghz / 4.35Ghz = 1.151.15 * 77 * x = 103 x = 1.16Which means, even if the 3700x has a 5Ghz clock, it needs to have at least 16% IPC improvement to beat the 9900k in games. Is such a thing possible?
Are AIB gpu coolers worth the premium price? Like the MSI gaming X Trio for example.
>>69767447Nah not really although cant really speak for my opinion but my freind's unless your fans dont work its not worth the price
>>69767438it's possible with optimization for the larger cache.Without optimizations I think Zen 2 will still generally have gains in IPC but it'll be less for memory latency sensitive workloads like gaming
>>69767165>>69767438Given that the 3700X will likely cost $350, all it has to do is be 20% less powerful than the i9-9900K for it to be clearly worth it over the i9-9900K.If it's any closer to the 9900K's power, you'd be an idiot to spend $500 on it.Hell, it already isn't even really worth $500.Plus, the rumored $500 Ryzen 9 looks like it will actually be better for video games than the 9900K.Just choose to spend a retarded $500 on a fucking CPU later, rather than now.It's not like this summer is that far away.
>>69767472Yeah yeah, AMD's better value. Sorry no one mentioned that for 5 minutes, did you get scared?
I just finished a new build. Threadshitter 1950x and 2080 TI housefire edition.However, I have no idea what to look for in a display. I imagine that I should go with something 4k and 144hz?I mostly use it for rendering in blender and some various games. Any suggestions appreciated.
>>69767593That's a serious display.
>>69767546There's only like 2 4k 144hz displays, watch 2 reviews, it's not hard. its probably the same panel too
Budget is mid 1k but this is what I came up with.Already own a 1080 and PSU so didn't put them in: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvXhXP
>>69767546>>69767593>>69767609>>69767622Acer Nitro XV273KP*block your path*can actually push 144hz with 4:4:4 chroma subsampling and all that shit over dual DPs (which as its own quirks)27" 4k is kinda questionable alltogether tho my niggy
>>69767737id go with a joocery cooler desu dark cock pro 4 or d15
>>69767737>>69767801This. You'll want to not skimp on the cooling if you play at 2/4k
>>69767832Mostly play at 1080p/144hz but was thinking of upping my cooling more for OC
Is now a good time to build a PC? Any seasonal sales coming up soon I should wait for?I want to dedicate $400 to building a PC and not sure if I should wait because my budget is so low.
>>69767862best time probably was black friday with sales but some things pop up now n then anyway
Should I impulse buy an RTX 2070 and bottleneck the fuck out of my AMD FX-6200?
>>69767967are you retarded? same answer
>>69766163How so? it works with every game and it's still available to use, even if doesn't look very good unless you set it to 4.00x.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m4FYZRI've never put together a PC but I tried. The important parts I tried to build around were the video card and the GPU so how horrible is the rest?
Must suck to be poor.
>>69768197>1080 Ti>16 GB @ 3400 MhzHow is the weather in pooristan?
Anyone here familiar with KFA2 and Palit GPUs? I am seeing some great prices for their stuff but I suspect there's a reason for it. Also why can't I find cheap DP to DVI/HDMI converters at my local HW store? Is it worth it to get a couple those from china or something?
>>69764761no real reason to go with a 2600 and a 570 unless you are planning on upgrading gpu soon. you would see better performance going up to a 580 and saving a bit on your cpu
>>69768255>Also why can't I find cheap DP to DVI/HDMI converters at my local HW store? Is it worth it to get a couple those from china or something?Forget that, those were hidden away in an unrelated category.
>>69768197>1080ti>calling other people poorcouldnt get a RTX to fit in your budget? fucking europoors
>>69768248And you're banting why?
>>69768197And my Poozen still gets better cinebench scores.
>>69768280>>69768248poor as fuck
Just finished it took me 5hrs first time some 1 in last Thred said ryzen no oc to just let it load a profile or something can someone explain to me a bit more.
>>69768289let's see them
>>69768289No it doesn't
>>69768280>2080 performanceyour poor is showing
>>69768317That has been done by 2700x
>>69762674I wonder where my i7 4770K would fit in that chart. I know at 1440p it doesn't matter much, and I'll be upgrading this year, but still curious
>>69768403about mid chart, Haswell's still stronk
didn't feel like making a separate thread for thisMy beloved sidewinder x4 is almost 9 years old and is worn out I'm looking a keyboard with a similar layout i really like the location of the macros keys to the left so i can use my pinky. and use the media controls every day but there location isn't really important. Ive found keyboards with both of these but i can't seem to find one with both of those and a dedicated calculator button.sorry if this is the wrong place to post this
>>69764428>linuxy don't people make there own?
What’s the best I can do on a cpu+mobo+ram+video card with a ~$400 budget?
>>69762734Get a Crucial P1 NVMe SSD, why do you want a new build with a 2.5" SATA SSD? It is much slower and not much cheaper.>>69762762For screen tearing you need to activate fast vsync in the nvidia driver settings. (A better version of the regular vsync). Basically just vsync in general. Or a gsync/freesync monitor will help too. If you are running your games off the HDD that explains fps drops, anytime some data has to be loaded in the HDD will take forever.>>69762804Was it actually won or is it stolen? If it is legitimate, why not, if the CPU works it's fine. It's not like CPUs usually die and need the warranty. Although if the regular one is just 20 bucks more, I'd just get a brand new one.
>>69768439corsair k95 platinum ultraniggagigga rgb edition has those lefty macro buttons
>>69768605Probably this:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ytfFYTYou could shave $20 off and about 5% performance by dropping down to a 1600 or $60 off and a bit more performance by dropping to a 2200G for the processor and get an 8gb 580 if you're planning on upgrading your CPU eventually anyway.
Normally Asian girls aren't Fermi, but she's pretty hot and I wood screw her.
>>69768167Anyone? Pls respond
>>69768666>Fucking posting this picture with those tripsWhat do you think this is, halloween?
>>69768656Actually I think I’m gonna stick with the gtx 1050 3gb meme gpu I have now, get the 2600+Mobo+Ram and get a video card once Navi is out. I think the 1050 will at least play everything I want on lower settings until Navi is out
>>69767135With or without hyperthreading?We are at a point where we some.gamea are scaling up to 8 threads, with 6 being the sweet spot.
>>69768666Looks like my exand by ex I mean my friendmore like an acquaintanceI have built her up in my mind.
>>69762674Someone has this but with 1080p? I can't seem to find it
>>69768666lol broke ass bitch spinning a toy fan to earn money
>>69768908looks good lol?
hi noggersany good cases with a handle? I travel often and would love to take my ATX build with me sometimes without needing to wrap the fucking thing in 100500 layers of cotton you guys pick
>>69768982Or alternatively, bind your case with a strong cord and add two rope handles so you can carry it around. Why would you lug your PC around anyway
>>69768932I'm actively using only 145GB of the 500GB SSD.I had it for like what 2months?Why is the total writes 2TB already? The total endurance rating is for 180TB.The fuck is this! why is it degrading so fast
I'm terrified that I'll get garbage speeds by using an 860 evo over a 970 evo
>>69769029You got jewedSSDs are a meme.
>>69768998cooler master what? any model in particular?
>>69769084no seriously, I specifically didn't write to it or anything, just daily useHow is that my active "you wrote to this drive" is around 145GB, but the drive already accumulated 2TB of writing. It's not like I have been writing and deleting to it nonstop. Just daily use, it's literally just a C drive and 1 game.How in the fuck
>>69769131Maybe the software is broken. Does Crucial have something like Samsung magician? Check it with another program like that.
>>69769148>Maybe the software is broken.I some how doubt it.>. Does Crucial have something like Samsung magician?Dunno, can't seem to find one for cruical
>>69769165Well if it's not broken then yes you got jewed somehow.
>>69769185It's not the SSDs fault that the computer it is installed in writes 2TB of data within just 24 days. Should check what is writing so much to the disk instead of worrying about the SSD itself...
>>69769208that anon said >no seriously, I specifically didn't write to it or anything, just daily use
aren't blower style GPUs better in ITX cases where the PSU blocks half the airflow anyway
>>69768908try to create an image and replace it, you should have warrantyI have replaced a 8TB Seagate HDD twice already just because it showed reallocated sectors count with a caution alert.
>>69769239Of course he didn't specifically do it, but who knows what the software really does - browsers are reported to be main suspects, writing tiny cache data nonstop.
>>69769277Replace it for what reason? For storing data? For some arbitrary tool showing 99% health?
>>69769385because it's free and you will make sure there is nothing wrong with the SSD itself and if it shows again then you will know it's your system.There is no reason to get a new one with 0 data written on it.
>>697693652tb is a lot thoughis there any way to measure the write usage on my HDD?
Would you use an old ass monitor with a higher refresh rate as a secondary display if the only advantage it had was the refresh rate (120hz)? It's a TN 1680x1050 monitor that looks a bit unpleasant.
>>69769462not if I had to downgrade from 1080p or somethingjust get an XB271HU mate.
>>69769208>It's not the SSDs fault that the computer it is installed in writes 2TB of data within just 24 days. Should check what is writing so much to the disk instead of worrying about the SSD itself...how do I do that?>>69769365I do have a browser with 400 tabs....What/how should I check for?>>69769277>try to create an image and replace it, you should have warrantyWhat "image" are you talking about?And would they really replace a SSD for having "too much TB written in a short amount of time" ?>I have replaced a 8TB Seagate HDD twice already just because it showed reallocated sectors count with a caution alert.About that...pic related
>>69769514I sacrifice only two things: desk space and electricity. This monitor has been gathering dust for a long time, I get to keep it for free.
>>69769542>have a browser with 400 tabsHoly fucking retard
>>69768908>3GB written since the first post was made>In that time I didn't do any manual writting myselfWHAT THE FUCK is GOING ON!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YYw8cYwanted to build a small workstation that can fit on my desk, hopefully stay quiet500 GB SSD for the OS and other personal things like videogames or whatever, 1 TB for sample libraries and other music shit, 1 TB for videogame developmenthow stupid am i
>>69769572what seems to be the problem?
>>69769783>3GB written in 2 hours by the system doing nothing special except keeping this browser open>used up 2TB in 2 months while trying to be super conservative>whats the problem goy, your SSD can handle 180 TB, don't worry goy, see you in 2 years
>>69769391>There is no reason to get a new one with 0 data written on it.Exactly. There is no reason to.>because it's free and you will make sure there is nothing wrong with the SSD itselfSure it is free except because of idiots like you who go off getting free replacements for working hardware, manufacturers include this cost into the initial product price. What do you think happens with that hardware, they can't sell it for the full price as unused anymore, someone has to take a loss.Why would anyone assume that a drive that reports 2TB written to is faulty? Jesus christ people. It is logical to assume that some process/application has actually written 2TB.It is not helpful either since in a few weeks the guy will be back saying that the new SSD also shows too many writes. It's a waste of time and effort to replace the SSD.
>>69769423Quickest is to just use the program called Resource Monitor that is included with windows. It shows you disk utilization and shows what program is currently writing to the disk. Google it, people report that Firefox is among the worst programs that write nonstop with default settings, 10+GB per day.
>>69769818>crying about 2TB in 600 hoursthis disk doesn't even see particularly heavy usage
>>69769635https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Better cooling, faster RAM, faster GPU, much better power supply
>>69769875i stared at the link for a solid 30 seconds wondering why it was the exact same part list so really i'm the retard here
>>69769635Looks ok, the 580 is good enough for casual 1080p gaming, but perhaps make sure that the display support freesync so you don't get problems at lower framerates. In newer games you won't get high fps with that card so that will be helpful. Or try to get a used 1080 instead, then you won't have any issues with framerates to begin with.Also you could switch to M2 SSDs, you could get a 500GB or 1TB Crucial P1. It does 1.6GB/s writes. Costs only a few bucks more, 20 bucks actually for the 1TB version. The mainboard needs to support PCIe M2. Might also be called NVMe M2 instead, that is essentially the same thing.Even if you don't get any M2 SSD at all, it can't hurt to have at least one PCIe M2 slot on the mainboard. In a few years prices will be so low that this will be the default option and then you might want to get one.
>>69769904i'm not particularly interested in M2 slots because it's only room for one SSD on any mini ITX boardof course if i can find better GPUs i'd rather have those, and the monitor does have freesync, i made sure of that
>>69769862What software are you people running?I have 7TB of writes and that's for a full year of running 24/7 on a 500GB SSD.
>>69769943I overlooked that it is mini ITX. I guess you have to accept some drawbacks with that form factor. Still, if you can find a board with at least one such M2 slot... otherwise you'll always be limited to SATA speeds (except for some PCIe cards and such that might not fit into a small form factor case to begin with). If you replace your mainboard or entire system in 2-3 years that might be fine, but if you tend to keep a system for at least 5 years, you might regret not having that speed in the future.Okay, with freesync that is fine. The card will play everything at 60fps, just not with ultra graphics in all games.
>>69764362No one paid you any attention so I'll just so it looks good, but do you need that 2TB HDD? You could get another 500GB SSD for basically the same money.
>>69769875It's certainly quiet.
>>69768298congrats on your gay ass ledssomeone probably said that instead of manual overclocking, let it oc an auto, it's more efficient overallwrite your shit better nigga
>>69769976ultra graphics are a meme for the most part in modern games, lower settings can look just as goodthe main reason i want an SSD is for loading time in game development/working with music (lower preload sizes mean less RAM used for loading sample libraries and faster loading and not having to freeze as many tracks) and boot-up time, so i don't see much reason to need M2 speeds unless i get some absolutely batshit insane one in a million use casethanks for the tip though because i didn't really think about M2 slots
>>69769572>>69768908Nvm, fixed it.
>>69770057It's just that I made the mistake before that I got a nice mainboard that had all I wanted at the time and just 2 or 3 years later I realized it was missing at least two crucial things (one of them being M2 slots, it had none, they were not common yet, only in the more expensive ones). Thankfully I was able to sell that entire platform (older DDR3) and built an entire new one asap that I based on a board that has everything I could possibly ever want during its lifetime. I thought it was overkill and now I am even using the thunderbolt header...
>>69770097scratch that i had another look at the store pages for the asrock board i picked and it does, in fact, have "1 Ultra M.2" slot, so i'll probably consider that for the sample library drive since that'll be the biggest loadsome sample libraries can be like 400GB in size when it gets extreme
>>69769131Sounds like user error. This is after 5 (I think?) windows reinstalls and all software plus some games running on the drive.
Anyone do case mods? I see potential in modding my NZXT H500 front panel
>>69770115Yeah it support PCIe M2 and SATA M2. I always recommend the Crucial P1 since it is barely more expensive compared to a different 5 year warranty SATA M2. Although it doesn't have the highest endurance due to being a QLC drive. If you fill it up and delete it every day or month, as in using it as a scratch disk, then better not get that one.
What's a good card to replace a gtx 750 without breaking bank? I want something to tide me over until I can splurg a bit more.
>>69770289for sample library usage it'd just be filled up with large files once that just sit there for use in a DAW, so it's probably fine
>>69769572>he bought poocial instead of samsung
>>69770317RX 570 or 580.1060 if you have to have nvidia
>>69770345Thanks, anon. I'll check those out.
>>69762674Hi fags, currently planned build:https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sQ9yNQAny recommendations?
>>69770336nothing wrong with cruical though.
>>69769542How can you use 400 tabs at the same time?
>>69770089well how did you fix it?
>>69762966Around a low end 4c4t ryzen.
>>69770419I don't use them at the same time. I usually have 1 video running at any given time. about 50 active 4chan tabs from different boards that I can quickly hop from.about 50-100 interesting articles to read about new research papers and so on. like 10-20 tabs of videos I either plan to watch, or watch regularly, the rest is usually filled with new things and so on.Again actively I have only about 40-60 tabs open.>>69770428PM-d you the fix ;)
>>69763069>352 vs 33121 FPS DIFFERENCEAMDRONES BTFO
>>69764658But they already did deliver
Support Intel politically, financially, and verbally.
>>69770318That is fine then, the endurance rating still allows to fill the entire drive over 100 times. It's really not much compared to non-QLC drives, but it's good for everything where the data is static and won't change a lot.
>>69769542>ST1000DM003hope you're doing backups
I'm gonna buy the 970 evo over the 860 evo because fuck bigass drivesI want my lean mean SSD on a stick
>>69770547>everything that's important enough to be backed up is already doubled to the E drive.But truth be told, I sat on the "caution" sign for like 4 months until I got a new drive and in that time It didn't get worse in terms of uncorrectable sectors. But oh well.
Is liquid metal a meme?I keep seeing people showing what happens after a year and it doesn't seem pretty. There's these fucking metal pads which seem easy to use, but there are very few reviews out there.
>went from 2GB per 2 hours to>2GB per 2 weekswew, I guess my SSD can rest easy now, glad I caught this shit "early" on....2TB per 2 months on a drive that sees no action is not normal...
>>69770607You won't need itGet some grizzly paste and call it a day
Heard that you need some specific types of RAM for Ryzen, that true?
>>69770676you need premium B-die ram and manually tightening the timings on the ram if you want to somewhat salvage the latency issues in videogames.
>>69770676No, it's a meme from when very early first gen Ryzen BIOS had issues.
>>69770676Faster RAM helps performance of any system in CPU limited situations.Ryzen is slow, so it's just often in CPU limited situations
>>69762674Are WD ssds good? Which brands should I avoid?
>>69770769get the cheapest SSD that offers the size you want. Performance differences are negligible There you go.
>>69770769The Blue and and Black are ok mid tier drives, just rebranded Sandisks. Green is DRAMless cancer.
>>69770607It's just not necessary. For all scenarios that you would want to use it in I can list you multiple things that you can improve first. And by the time you have a big ass noctua air cooler or even a custom water cooling loop, your temperatures are low enough that you won't need it anymore.It would help already if people put on regular thermal paste thinner than they usually do (one tiny blop in the middle and let the cooler pressure do the rest). Usually people give away those few degrees of difference with that mistake.
my seagate HDD just died on me, i'm thinking about taking the opportunity to upgrade my games storage to a SSD, or maybe a hybrid. is it really worth it?also what good brands for this kind of hardware?
>>69770829>seagatesuprise, suprise>is it really worth it?not really, 256GB SSD for system + basic software + huge ass HDD for games/media is still the way to go>what good brands for this kind of hardware?SSD: whichever offers MLCHDD: hitachi/HGST
>>69770829Just get another hdd you dong lord.SSDs are too expensive for storage and SSHDs wont offer much of a speed advantage unless you're loading programs off of it.
>>69770849>256GB Samsung M.2 NVMe system drive>500GB-1TB MX500 SATA M.2 for gayme installs>external HDD or NAS for archivingNo cables no noise masterrace
>>69770891>500GB for gayme installswow, you could fit 6 whole games on that bad boy
>>69770903If you really need more than 6 bloated ubishit games installed at once, seek help.
>>69770907>ubishitmost games released in last ~2 years are at least 50gb+, anongta online is like 80gb, is than an ubishit game for you?
>>69770923No, only bloated AAA trash.>gta onlineSeriously?
>>69770891>external HDD>no cableshell yeah man. Gotta get those cables out of the inside of my computer and into the right next to my computer and also taking up a power socket
>>69770934what games do you play then?
>>69770997Obviously only high quality loli VNs.
>>69770849so, just repill me on this, seagate's HDD are terminal-tier garbage isn't it?there is a hardware shop nearby that have some WD's in stock, don't want to wait for delivery, i'll just go for this.
>>69771113>so, just repill me on this, seagate's HDD are terminal-tier garbage isn't it?seagate drives are one of the very few things 4channel shits allover and is actually correctnever had or heard of seagate drive that lasted more than two years of active use, not sure about ironwolfs but I wouldn't trust them
still rocking an old phenom 955be and a gtx 760gonna start putting together a new pc tomorrow, seems like a r5 2600 with a rx 580 is the goto for budget conscious 1080p gaming?
Any idea on the ryzen3 release dates?Their new gfx card has tested pretty underwhelmingly meaning I'll probably have to stick to a 2070 for my new build.Expecting to spend around €1600+ for a new machine.I'm thinking matx, quiet, no case windows as it's going to sit beside the TV and I'm gaming on the TV (b7 oled).I'm essentially waiting on a good deal for the 2070 and then I'll start the build. If ryzen3 is going to be q3 I might just go ahead with either the 2700x or the 8700k
>>69765436It’s a good motherboard with great OCing abilities, if you ever need to squeeze some extra performance. Also, it’ll easily support Ryzen 2 so say in 2-3yrs time if you wanted a cheap upgrade grabbing a second hand Ryzen 3700 would breathe new life into the system. Otherwise you can save $50 and grab this https://www.microcenter.com/product/5002573/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-with-wraith-spire-cooler,-msi-b450m-pro-vdh-cpu---motherboard-bundleOR put that $50 towards a better bundle and get the same board but with a 2700https://www.microcenter.com/product/5002561/amd-ryzen-7-2700-with-wraith-spire-cooler,-msi-b450m-pro-vdh-cpu---motherboard-bundle
>>69771411https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WfJTfHAll new it comes in at under $900. Can save some money if you’re cool with second hand cards (lots of good 1060 6gb out there with the 2060 out now, and it still performs like a beast at 1080p)
>>69771601You could drop the extra $35 to boost it up to a 2600x and get the better fan with it to make it a flat $900. Otherwise add whatever aftermarket cooler you want (212 evo is always a good option)
Right now I'm just in the exploratory phase, and I understand that by the time I've saved up the last bit of money I need for it some of the prices will change, but I want to get a rough idea of what I can get.>$1500 USD>32GB RAM>Gaming, Heavily modded games>for the above, I want to have a lot of capability to "overpower" how unoptimized games with a lot of mods tend to be>want a 1440P 144hz monitor with this>lowest priority, but any extra budget should go to ssd's or large capcity, high speed HDDs For some context, here are my current specs.I've been long overdue for a new build, haha.
when will mommy lisa launch ryzen 3xxx brosmy 2500K platform starts shitting the bed
>>69771635I got almost the same set up as you. Neat. First grab a cheap SSD (Kingston 250g for instance. Like $15-20) and throw it in that PC so you can sell it off later. Secondly, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4DCgfHI’d probably opt for a 1080ti as those 11gb will be useful with heavy modded games. They can be found on eBay for relatively cheap (and don’t Tend to be flogged around by miners).
Lads, I need some ideas.I replaced the GPU thermal paste with Noctua Nt-H1.Instantly I had a 5-7 degree drop from the maximum temperatures under max load.But over the course of 1-2 months the temps have creeped back up to their original temperatures. It's not going up in temp further than the original stock thermal paste, but it's confusing why I am getting this kind of result.Ideas, theories?
I just want to do a small upgrade to keep gaming at 1080p/60fps in modern games until the next generation of GPUs comes out before I upgrade to 1440p/144hz. How much risk is there in buying a used 980ti or 1070 from eBay? Never bought used parts before.
>>69771832Thank you. Since it's not immediate, I'll keep my eyes on ebay listings for a while to see if I can get a good dealAny rough price you'd recommend I should pull the trigger on a used 1080ti?
>>69771601Thanks for the recomendations, i'm kinda out of the loop but what are the advantages of the m2 ssds over a sata ssd for half the price?
>>69771832And I noticed on that list there's no cooler, so I'm assuming you recommend the stock cooler for the ryzen 7 would be sufficient?
>>69763362>military gamingHow can any self-respecting man even consider this shit
>>69772044The "Master Chief's jockstrap" look is actually really in vogue right now.
>>69771968I’m an Aussie so I’m not too clear on good price for US, but I got mine for $740 delivered to my door by the guy with 2yrs warranty left. To me that was good as the market here was seeing them around 800-1000. >>69772013Unless you’re OCing the stock Ryzen 7 cooler is actually pretty beastly. Can act as a placeholder that can hold its own too if later down the track you want to OC, and you can swap it out for a strong AIO (keep in mind the Meshify is kinda small and you’ll probably have to mount any AIOs on the top). >>69772011For all intents and purposes the biggest advantage is just a cleaner build; it plugs straight into your mobo; no cords no fuss. NvME is faster but you’ll most likely not notice unless you’re working with very large files. If the straight SSD is half the price then go for it, you’d be silly not to. But here (Aus) the M2 formats tend to either be cheaper or only a few bucks dearer than the 2.5” formats.
>>69762674I have pic related motherboard (GA-6VEML rev. 1.0) and I need helpmb is from '98 at latest and I only have a power button from 2009 so theres barely a chance it will connect
>>69771635I would keep that CPU for now (RAM too, no use in wasting money on new DDR3 now, 16GB will be ok for a while longer) and only upgrade the graphics card right away. Get at least a used 1080 or a 2070 for 1440p, better a used 1080ti, it's good enough for 4K and plenty for 1440p for the next few years really.Also add a 1TB SATA SSD, you can switch that and the graphics card over to a new system in 2-4 years when the CPU and RAM start to drag down performance.But you have a fast quadcore, new CPUs have a bit higher clockspeed (so better single core performance, which would be useful in some games specifically, like Factorio) as well as 2 or 4 more cpu cores. Games will often use up to 4 cores, but not many will use 6 (Hitman 2 and other modern ones) and few will use 8 (x-plane, but that's more a simulation than a game, Star Citizen and that is not a game, no idea if it will ever be).So 4 cores >3.5GHz is a solid basis for gaming for at least another year or two.
>>69771494I think I’m gonna do the first bundle you linked. What do I need to plug the m.2 I’m getting into that?
>>69772955Literally nothing. That’s one of the benefits of M.2. You just slot it in, screw it down in place and wa la. Pic related; red and blue are where they sit, Green and yellow are the things you plug it into. You’ll want to use the red one iirc (main M.2 slot).
>>69769542>About that...pic relatedYeah but my point is still there. It's free to replace it and you get a new hard drive with literally 0 data written on it. Also, about the image, use clonezilla, so if your system is installed on that SSD, when you replace it, you won't have to reinstall everything, just apply the image with clonezilla.