What's the point of making the battery non-removable in phones?
you know exactly why
im sure you can guess that
>>69757734Why not? I mean, it's not like you have to worry about modern batteries too much like you would about NiCd or NiMH
>>69757769To replace it when it loses its capacity after many years of use.
>>69757734Waterproofing memes .
>>69757778How many years is that? They degrade rather slowly, unless you store them in inadequate conditions or something.
>>69757815My Note 3's battery is shot. It's 6 years old now.
>>69757852>6 yearsTime to buy a new phone. You're not poor, are you?
>>69757769Can't do a 10s recharge with a non-removable battery>>69757961>it's old, better toss this perfectly functional device in the trashEnjoy wasting your money
>>69757961Why should he? Spending money needlessly is a great way to become poor. If the phone is otherwise perfectly usable, it's idiotic to spend money for what at that point is little more than an overpriced fashion item.My phone is five years old and still going strong. Could I buy a new one? Yes. Is there a point? Hell no.
>>69757815Recharge once a day, your battery is fucked within 2 years as that is over 700 cycles and it might even be worse than that depending on how much your phone is exposed to body heat
>>69757815> How many years is that?2 to 4. Less if you use QC.>>69757815You don't need to "store" them, just freeze your phone in the back pocket a couple of times.
>>69758006>buying a new phone every 6 years makes you poorFuck off pajeet
>>69758067>frivolously spending hundreds of dollars>not on track to the poor house
>>69758067You're an idiot. No, buying a new phone on it's own won't make you poor, but a wasteful lifestyle will.You can spend your money on whatever you like, but don't come crying to me if you end up sucking hobo dick for money.
>>69758026What'd you do to recharge it so frequently, play games on it all the time?
>>69758153Quick charge with higher currents.
>>69757734So you have to buy a new phone when the battery brakes
>>69758067Buying consumable products has never made a consumer rich. It's the exact opposite. You can't tell how big the money pile is that the anon is sitting on by checking his consumables. You will learn it one day when you start getting other income than parent's allowance.
>>69758047>He doesn't understand how QC works>He thinks it shortens the life of your batteryCringe.
>>69757815>unless you store them in inadequate conditions or somethingthat "something" refers also to charging habits.Instead of having to inconvenience myself by babying my phone to avoid its battery degrading quickly, I prefer having a phone that has a battery I can swap cheaply when it degrades.Also: An used phone with a removable battery is great value, just buy a new battery and it's back to 100% functionality. An used phone with a non-removable battery might as well be e-waste.
>>69757852>>69757734My V20 battery feels shot. It's about 18 months old. Original replacements cannot be bought anymore and I am not into fakes and Chong Nong Pong batteries for housefire reasons.Pic related
>>69757787I read your post and am replying to it from the pool. How jelly are you?Anyway, I always thought this answer was correct, but then it was pointed out to me that the galaxy s5 had waterproofing and a removable battery, so I don't know.I used to care about this kind of shit, but I don't anymore. My previous phone had a removable battery and my current one doesn't and so is life.
>>69757734I wish I could go back to 2011.
>>69757815Might be because I live in swedistan but the phone batteries of literally everyone I know are in some state of fucked after 2-3 years of use. My note 4 didn't even last the 15 minute bus ride to my university 1.5-2 years after purchase and the genuine battery I replaced it with ended up in a similar (but not as bad) state after about a year and the one I replaced it with is holding on for its fucking life dying at 30~% after slowing down to a crawl at 60%.
>>69757992>perfectly functional deviceI thought the battery was shot?look at this poorfag.
>>69758839If the battery was removable that wouldn't be an issue
>>69758504>An used phone with a removable battery is great value, just buy a new battery and it's back to 100% functionality.Not exactly. A hypothetical used apple phone would still be shit as they throttle later models with "upgrades"
>>69757815My LG G4 battery was shot after just a year, it was turning off whenever I went outside (with temperatures under 0°C). If it wasn't for easy replacement, I wouldn't have it replaced, and I'd have to buy another phone. I also have two 8Ah extended batteries, which I charge in an external charger, and swap whenever one is at low percentage.
>>69758162Doesn’t matter what you are doing, 2 years is unacceptable plain and simple
>>69758585The chink shit works. I'm on number 4 with my v10
>>69758868IIRC the throttling was a dumbfuck attempt to extend the life of a degrading battery, and it went away when the battery was replaced. Of course, Apple being Apple, you could only replace the battery in an Authorised Apple Service(TM).
>>69758162>recharging once a day (overnight)>why do you charge your phone so frequentlyMaybe if they stopped making these fucking things so thin and make the batteries bigger like they should I wouldn’t have to recharge “so frequently”. And that’s not “frequent” charging. That’s normal charging from a normal work day. I’m sorry you don’t have a job or any friends anon.
ITT: niggers too poor to afford a new phone
>>69759050Yeah I guess I have to bite the bullet ...
They're not removable, because it says so on a label? I owned 3 different "non-removeable battery" phones in the past. It took me 1-5minutes on each phone to remove and install a new baterry.Fucking sheeps.
>>69757734- better water resistance- gives more room for a bigger battery and/or more components, as bigger battery = fewer charge cycles used per time frame = longer lifespan, or at least that's how it should be- newer phones are power efficient enough that the user shouldn't require a battery swap in the middle of the day, unless they're playing games or somethingthese also introduce a problem where the battery can't be replaced without special tools, since they're often glued shut, and even then that depends if a replacement battery is available for sale
>>69757734Planned obsolescence and a mild improvement in aesthetics.>as if you didn't know
>>69757992A 6 year old phone is not perfectly functional unless you literally only use it for phone calls, in that case get a flip phone as it would be more secure than that piece of junk.
>>69757734Engineering like this would not be possible with removable batteries.
>>69760142I now realize I posted a picture of a wallpaper, here's another.
>>69760123keep telling yourself that
so that the phone can be GPS tracked at any time
>>69758313her eybrows are ofputing
>>69760123A 6 year old phone has the chance of being well supported under LineageOS or similar in which case would mean the latest version of Android with the latest security patches
>>69760233shit taste m8
>>69758313imagine the smell /^^\(OO)
>>69760273nah you're just a pleb
>>69758325is there a difference?
>>69760142engineer it in a non-niggerlicious way
>>69760405how do i achieve gf like this, bros
>>69757734every battery is technically able to be replaced, seriously you don't know how to Google or Youtube this answer?
>>69760605Talk to her lol
>>69757740Sad thing is he doesn't./g/ is full of retards lately (by lately I mean the last 2-3 years).We've even had threads discussing why modular phones aren't a thing.
>>69758162The fuck dude, most phones today are at like 60% if you just lay it down the whole day. After 10-12 hours of sometimes looking into signal and reading some news in safari my battery is at 10% or lower.>>69758733Its not because of swedistan, its normal
>>69760728>most phones today are at like 60% if you just lay it down the whole daylol no>iPhonefound your problem
>>69760233Her everything is off-putting.
>>69758948fellow g4 bro here, where'd you get your batteries? don't wanna get a shit chink cell
>>69757734Waterproofing. I would rather get a phone with removable battery but with a lower IPX rating tho
>>69758585>Chong pong batteriesI have a brand new 10 amp chink battery in my V20 and 4 more new ones in my desk drawer. Soldered fags on suicide watch.
>>69758313>he thinks using high currents and heating the battery all the time doesn't shortens its lifetimeAbsolute retarded.
>>69757734Real answer: So you can't REALLY power down [GPS, mic, camera].
>>69757815My moto g2 battery was fucked after 3 years.
>>69757734Normies didn't care about battery swapping and wanted thinner, waterproof phones. It also meant that these same idiots would buy a new phone more often when the battery begins to fail.
>>69760025>better water resistanceIP67 is plenty for anyone that's not retarded and Samsung proved it was easily possible with a removable battery
>>69760123This is what the phone companies want you to believe.
>>69761885true, but normaltards think it means you can use it underwater, so they need to idiotproof it further
>>69761765I bet it was barely usable by that time
>>69757734Better ingress protection
>>69763354I'm still using it, I keep it plugged in 99% of the time. I never leave my house so this isn't really a problem for me.
>>69757734Removable batteries are a meme, what's important is that it's easily serviceable. Fuck all these companies gluing their phones shut for water resistance.
>>69763464>Removable batteries are a memeNot at all, it's wonderful to not need to be tethered to a powerbank or the wall if your battery happens to die
>>69757734People were removing the battery to avoid botnet surveillance, can't have that.
>>69761885If you dropped those "waterproof" phones into a puddle, they all fried.~Sauce, had several
>>69758313It does, you need battery university.
>>69757734Waterproofing the phone, retard.
>>69758313why do they wear dresses like that and go out in public
>>69760025My S5 is on it's second battery. All i did was wipe & install the original rom again & new oem battery (hard to find at this point) and it's like new. It's only (((updates))) and a fucked battery that make our phones age, otherwise they'd probably last a decade. My last phone was a 6 year old nokia lumia, and it was still fine with just a replacement battery thanks to Microsoft never bloating/updating shit.
>>69759825I'm wondering about the Perfine LG V20 4100mAh LiPo battery but don't want it to blow up in my face when watching VR porn
>>69764649Perhaps, but many times i've showered while talking on the phone, and it's not been a problem. (Removable battery, samsung claimed water resistant.)
>>69757748 That's a side effect. The real reason is so even if you have no reason to ever upgrade, eventually your battery will wear out and you'll have to.
>>69764796wrong, take your meds schizo
>>69764965What do you know about phone engineering no one cares about removable batteries, it's not something that you need to address daily if your phone's battery needs changing, just use a heat gun and open the back with a guitar pic or something and replace it yourself, or get your local repair guy to do it if you're not an absolute poorfag
Thinner batteries that can be nonstandard shapes and put things like the controller PCB into whatever space is they need, instead of inside the battery unit itself. I imagine it's also far cheaper to have wireless charging built into the phone instead of having to make backplates that the coils built in.
>>69765015>the schizo's posting again>he's pretending to be a phone engineerReminder that if you don't take your meds you'll start to hear voices again mister phone engineer.
>>69757778Silly goyim. Why would you want to replace the battery in that dinky old phone of yours when you could spend $1500 on the latest and greatest piece of kit with a WHOPPING 16GB of storage and a lack of the old, disgustingly outdated headphone jack?
Bought a refurb v20 for 200 burgers. Bought a 10 amp/hr battery for another 50. 250 burgers and it lasts for 3 to 4 days without charging. Feels good man. Enjoy paying 800 dollars for a device that will die in 2 years
It doesn't sell phones. It never did. People only care about shiny, sleek aesthetic and gimmicks. All this shouldn't matter to you though. Being a so-called "power user" means you'll just take a screwdriver and replace it yourself, no?
>>69764810why do you think?
>>69765372>batteries glued in>case glued shut>no replacement cells available
>>69757734It is removable. Just use your big boy ape brain.
>>69758585I'm in the same boat. My V20's battery is perfectly fine unless I'm outside in the cold for too long, then it will shit the bed. Bring it back inside and let it warm up, and it'll be okay again (albeit with half the charge it had before)
>>69766439>issuesfixed it for you
>>69757815Bought my GS6 in 06/2015; battery wasn't working right so finally replaced it 12/2018.
why the fuck is it that the single most ubiquitous personal electronic device ever created is so plagued by planned obsolescence and anti-consumer design choices? It's fucking shameful.
>>69764831How long does it take yours to drain? Mine lasts like 6 hours tops and it's annoying
>>69766485>unremoveable battery>it's removeableare you retarded?
>power off phone at 100% charge>power on 8 hours later and battery is half drainedMFW my phone uses more battery when it's off. Is it glow in the darks?
>>69767013>unremovable batteryDoesn't exist
>>69760605i literally had 10s of gfs looking like that. I'm not even that pretty or buffed. There are 4 options my anon:>1. be over 6' with a great sense of humor, >2. be over 6' with a pretty face,>3. be rich,but if you're a manlet then>4. have a big dick accompanied with one of the following: great sense of humor, pretty face, or a female that talks to other females about your dick
>Oneplus One from 2014>everything works but battery is tired>try few new batteries>all equally bad as an old oneEven if the batteries are few torx screws away from being changed, it doesn't mean there are replacements available. Especially with how much phone models there are today, replacements can be impossible to find in few years.
>>69760142>All that huge space just for "MUH CLICK!"And they consider it to be more important that a tiny space for audio jack.
>>69760605talk to girls with fat asses until you get a thiqq thigh phat BRAPPER QT gf
>>69767784Taptic engine is more useful to me than a headphone jack, the great thing about having dozens of phones every year is the option to buy one that suits your needs. :)
>>69757734I repair phones for a living and I can tell you this, it's mostly about asthetics but water resistance plays a big role in non-user replaceable batteries.
>>69757787I remember my Motorola defy had a removable battery and it had the waterproof meme and CM7 i really miss that phone
>>69757734You actually have to get different regulatory qualifications if the battery isn't internal and shipping is handled differently.It's bullshit that as a consumer you almost never encounter, but companies have to deal with.
>>69761073you're assuming insufficient cooling
>>69767953Irreplaceable batteries don't make a phone easier to waterproof, thats nonsense and you know it.
>>69765372>>69765892>>69766439>dude you can still replace your battery who cares lolDoesn't mean they are avaliable or that the process is actually practical. A lot of time phones are glued shut and you have to permanently fuck up your water proofing and other aspects of the phone.T. Moto x pure user who would keep this thing for another 3 years if I could. One plus 5t is in the mail, non removable battery and it doesn't even have water proofing.
>>69757734There's no such thing as non removable batteries, although its a hassle if its a device where you need a heatgun to take the phone apart. Companies do it so you buy a new phone quicker
>>69766673I get 1-2 days depending on usage. Im not a heavy user tho, just some firefox and a call or two per day usually.
>>69767703>tfw over 6' >have great sense of humor >decent facei'm gonna make it, lads.
>>697578155 years. I'm buying a new battery for my galaxy s5 next week. The current one has significantly degraded.>>69757787You can't waterproof a phone unless it's a single slab of glass without any ports. Water resistance is a meme. Galaxy s5 has the ip67 certificate while still having a removable battery and a headphone jack.
>>69768690>battery coolingkek. And heat is not the only issue there, by accelerating chemical reactions you are most likely increasing the rate of unwanted reactions that can hurt your cells. Fast charging should not be used as a replacement for regular charging, it's just for emergencies.
>>69757734A mix between programmed obsolescence and to reduce the amount of mechanical pieces by just tabbing the battery with a nickel strip as I think they do on iPhones.Waterproofing is a complete lie, phones with or without battery die when they are submerged.
>>69757734Money and planned obsolescence
>>69764810because they're whores