https://www.mikrobitti.fi/uutiset/mb/27e4c2aa-155b-4b97-8480-e557f065b490Win 7 has one year left to live. Then there will be no updates of any kind.Win 10 now has larger usage percentage than Win 7 but this wasa achieved in 2018, some years after Win 10 was initially released. So we cant exactly say people have migrated fast away from Win 7. There was also Win 8 in between 7 and 10. Not many people were interested in 8.Markets for new PC:s have been dropping for 7 years and it is not known exactly why people dont want to update their pc after every few years anymore.It is now the hope of Microsoft that when support of Win 7 is ended, peple will buy computers which are Win 10 compatible. Therefore starting to use Win 10 in the process.It is sad that recent troubles with Windows 10 updates have been making more people sceptical about the OS. Microsoft tries to make things better. All in all Win7 will be no longer safe to use so alternatives of Win10 are getting low on number.
>disable updates>ransomware encrypts your files>enable updates>microsoft deletes your files
The font rendering on that site is so atrocious I can't even read it
>>69328148I broke the updates back when microbot was giving botnet10 for """'free"""". Still in stalling security updates manually. The updater says it's disabled in service. It is not. O and in the see more it says "go to (null) to see more"
>>69328247>be retard>shit breaksWoah
Oh, look. It's that retarded Finn again.
>>69328148>Microsoft tries to make things better.BUAHAHAHAHAHA
>>69328148I bought a used Windows 7 Thinkpad. I would gladly move to WIndows 10 if they offered it to me for free. I guess I can get it now for free but that includes some tricks and I am not going to be bothered with any of that.
>>69328485it's bad in non mobile browsers though, I just checked
I've installed sp1 in 2012 and never updated again
>>69328457They changed it again. No trickery required. Just install 10 and activate with your 7 key or just upgrade. They're that desperate.
>>69328148will this be the year of the windows desktop?
>>69328457you can get the upgrade tool on their website and win10 will be automatically activated with your win7 key. or do it manually even. they've only disabled free upgrading for a short time.
>>69328348Fuck off idiot, the ms deleting files bug was not any user's fault
>>69328148>Win 7 has one year left to live. Then there will be no updates of any kind.Yeah, I've heard that before. XP was patched long after end of support. They have no choice, everything else they're doing is a failure. As long as 10 is beta at best, they will patch it, or else it would be Linux.https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-puts-end-to-windows-98-support/
A ltsc iso further debloated with msmg toolkit is as good as windows 7, if not better.
>>69328508>be chromuim >on wangblows 10>have LCD aa option for font smoothing in about:flags heh , nothing personal Mozilla
>>69328247Back your shit up you lazy cunt, it takes like 3 minutes to do an incremental
>>69328148If I was Microshafts I would have cut off support for Windows 7 years ago and pretended Windows 8 was just a dream. What a shitty life it must be having a retarded userbase that holds you back.
>>69330938Right. It's not that the company is incompetent and makes stupid mistakes, it's the users not accepting whatever shit they produce. Of course.
>>69328148I suspect that the recent update that broke stuff in 7 was a deliberate ploy to get people over to 10.
>>69328148I will keep using Windows 7.
>>69328148I fucked up please forgive me /g/, before I kill myself please tell me where I went wrong. I can't even play resident evil 2 demo that came out because of this.
>>69330971>keeping 7 "updated" after the forced updates that lead to 10The fuck is wrong with you man? Use 7 until it dies and the drop Windows. Assuming they don't drop the Win10 SaaS model.
>>69331008I'm not saying I did the update myself , it was just a recent story. I'm mostly talking about normies that don't know any better. It's meant to scare them.
>>69328148>it is not known exactly why people dont want to update their pc after every few years anymoreIt's known and pretty obvious too: They are good enough. The cellphone industry's running into this too (noticed how we went from replaceable batteries to sealed batteries?). The only thing you really need to change on a 5 year old computer is to put the OS on a SSD and you're good to go for probably another 5 years if you're an average user browsing websites and things like that. Now, if you're editing and rendering videos in 4k then that's another matter - but that's not something most people are doing.>>69328518It's not shocking if this is true. Why they don't just offer it for free to everyone already is beyond me. The start menu's got advertisements, it's a way to promote their Bing search engine and it spies and collects data on those who use it. It is quite frankly quite disgusting that they are getting away with charging anything at all for that garbage. A more "fair" or sensible approach would be to sell a Wintoddler PRO version with no advertisements and give away a free Home version (which is kind of what they already do except you get a "not activated" message).
>>69330971That's the stupid thing I've ever heard. >these people keep breaking stuff I use. I guess I'll try their other products!
>tfw I finally caved after my harddrive died a month ago and got Win10
im not using windows for years..gnu/linux is fater bicuse it dosent consume all your machine ram against you..It dosent auto update unless if you want to...It dosent log your input and send it to a third party server except ubuntu/amazone agreements..It dosent fuck u as a user..dont use microsoft products start to fuck theme up insted by not using that..
>>69328348retards being people installing 10
>>69328148>it is not known exactly why people dont want to update their pc after every few years anymore.1. Normies switched to phones and tablets2. in 2019, you can comfortably work on CPU from 10 years ago.>Win 10 now has larger usage percentage than Win 7 but this wasa achieved in 2018I feel like a lot of these are because of "upgrade to Windows 10" brought to Win 7/8 via updates.
>>69331105Consider how dumb the average person is and then remember that half of them are dumber than that.
>>69328148>gf brings her laptop>it's win10, every other device on my network is GNU>leaves it overnight>"your month's internet bill, anon: 1 gorillion dollars">wangblows 10 used over 800GB overnight with no warning>'sync updates with other machines' was disabled but that didn't stop it from stealing my bandwidth>microsoft literally stealing money from meYes I'm sure everyone will just love wanblows 10, especially the tech illiterate who don't know how to prevent wangblows from using up 800 GB per day of downloads when most people have a limit at most 200 GB here and unlimited costs retarded amounts even at the lowest speeds.
>>69331105Microsoft lies about the fact that 7 is old and broken to normalfags and claims constantly that 10 is the best thing since sliced bread and it's so fast and clean and bugfree. When your 7 starts to randomly break, and you don't know shit about tech, of course you're going for the shiny new lie, especially after 7 served you so well over the years.
And I'll keep using XP 64. Fuck microdick and fuck thier bloated as fuck OS.
>>69330989This. No amount of shilling or strawmanning or ad hominem will change that.
>>69331404LTSC is bloated af. LTSB will always be best.
>>69331661Lol xp 64 runs less programs than linux and is cuckware
>>69331583>metered internetyou are the real loser here
>>69331858I'm not the government of this shithole of a country.
Anybody knows any retard proof linux distro? I need one for my parents, I was thinking about ZorinOS, but maybe somebody knows something better?
>>69331744Works on my machine bitch:^)
Someone teach me how to hackintosh my pc.- asus z97 mobo- gtx 970- 4790kplease.
>>69331911Interesting choice, deffinitelly gonna consider it but in case they wont like it, any other options? they dont want arch tho
Honestly, even without updates I doubt most consumers already on Windows 7 will upgrade right away until many 3rd party programs and products start dropping it. Corporate environments will continue to hold out as long as they can, and I have seen some invest a lot of money to DOWNGRADE to 7 vs going up to 8 or 10 in the past. They are going to squeeze at least another 5-9 years out of it before upgrading and have mixed OS environments between 7 and 10 and slowly migrate. Semi off topic question: has ANYONE in the tech field seen a Windows 8 environment? Every place I have worked at was either XP or 7, 7 solely, or 7 and 10. 8 and 8.1 was pretty much poison to most corporate environments.
>>69332067Arch is always a bad option because it breaks all the time, but in different ways with each update (literally playing roulette). Gentoo is rockstable once installed and while they won't be updating on their own without you setting up a cron job and a binhost for them, it will work for them forever once setup.No other OS can claim that to my knowledge.Ubuntu, for example, is a broken piece of shit where the graphical package manager doesn't even work (click 'install', it will grey out the button for 0.5 seconds while displaying a progress bar, then remove the progress bar, ungrey the button, and ask you to install again, never actually installing anything; the installer itself goes into infinite loops and crashes if you try to touch anything related to encryption, partitioning, or lvm; there's a 50% chance it won't boot after an install anyway; it is easily confused about boot method (efi or not); packages are now fragmented because of snaps; updates can easily break things - though that's usually the exception instead of the rule unlike in arch).Fedora is more of the same, though more stable and with a working package manager. However it's a poettering nightmare and thus not all that stable.I haven't touched opensuse in a long time because last time I checked they had devolved from a fantastic OS that added stability and feature-enhancing patches to common software, to a bug-ridden shitfest that adds buggy as all fuck custom patches to software that otherwise works correctly.The same roughly applies to all the mainstream distros.
>>69332138Microsoft has already invested in gimping and blocking windows 7 downgrades and installs. For example, it's not possible to use it without hacks if you have a modern CPU. It's also not possible to use it if you only have usb3 ports and no inbuilt cd drive, because it can't read the files on a bootable usb through a usb3 port. There used to be images with usb3 drivers baked in, but microsoft killed them.Overall they've expanded a LOT of resources to try to prevent people from not using windows 10. It's so bad that I genuinely think the best option is to install linux and run windows 7 through qemu+kvm at boot with max resources and gpu passthrough instead of running windows on bare metal anymore for people want windows.
>>69331744>Oy vey stop using XP and give us your data goyim!The shills are here right on time.
>>69328148well, of course it will. i work at a publishing house running win7 right now and is going to upgrade within the next few months. our head of it is a massive freetard and installs oss left and right, but since adobe refuses to bring the creative suite to gnu/linux, there is no alternative (macs are way too expensive).
>>69328247choose your poison
>>69328148>Markets for new PC:s have been dropping for 7 years and it is not known exactly why people dont want to update their pc after every few years anymore.it's because there is no need to anymore. any computer post 2010 just does fine. also smartphones and tables made many setups redundand.
>>69332310>For example, it's not possible to use it without hacks if you have a modern CPU.You're retarded. I installed W7 with a Ryzen 2700X just fine. Faggot retards like you think a PS2 keyboard is "hacking".
>>69331105these people think that since their hp had issues that's the company to blame and they get a gateway or dell the next time, thinking that will fix the problems they were having.
>>69330913>he thinks any common person is going to do that
>>69330913Back up to where?
I've had enough of hardware becoming obsolete because of shit programming and shit OSs.Fuck that, cellphones are more powerful than PCs from 5 or 10 years ago and are complete garbage.PCs from 10 years ago are ridiculously more powerful than stuff from the 90s and are completely useless nowadays even for fucking basic office work, it's ridiculous..F U C K T H A TAt this point my only hope is we hit a goddamn hard wall in hardware tech so programmers will have to get good again.
>>69331105That is exactly what Apple was doing with iPhone updates. They were deliberately slowing down older phones so people would buy a newer one.
>>69332935Seriously? If there's any source I'd like to read it, because holy fuck I'm raging just at the thought.
>>69332685Hi paid shill how are you today? Did you get a raise to 2 rupees per post yet?
>>69330989me too until software i use is not being supported on windows 7 anymore at least
>>69328148>and it is not known exactly why people dont want to update their pc after every few years anymore.Because videogames on pc are not as demanging in terms of processing as they used to, since most "AAA" games basically are console ports. And said consoles are not very powerful.Also no one cares really cares about 4k resolutions.
I jumped ship from Windows to a Fagbook Pro and Linux on my desktop. Great job being terrible, Windows.
>>69332195Debian stable. You'll have to set it up for them but once you do it Just Werks. I usually give them Xfce for that Windows Classic-style look.
>>69328148Microsoft wants to charge an annual subscription to license their bloated os. Why anyone still uses windows outside of "Muh games" is a mystery to me.
>>69333155Also valid. It tends to come broken, but once you fix stuff you'll never have to worry about your fixes breaking ever.
>>69332195>Arch is always a bad option because it breaks all the time, but in different ways with each update (literally playing roulette).Arch is fucking stable. Been running it for over a year without one thing breaking
>>69333246then don't believe it retard
>>69333166This is the endgame, just like Adobe. But years ago they promised businesses a decade of support so they have to run out the clock on 7 before they can force people into it. It shouldn't be hard for businesses since they're already used to paying for ongoing support contracts.Actually I bet they'll go further, I bet five years from now there won't be any W10 long-term support branches. MS knows enterprises are the most locked-in to windows, because of custom software, the need to train their retarded users, and so on, so if MS puts its foot down and says "You're gonna get rolling-release windows and anything else is a completely unsupported configuration, which we'll tell to your auditor/regulator if they ask us", well, then, enterprises are gonna scream but they'll have no choice but to go along.
Found a free spare old computer that I've been toying with linux on some. I put xubuntu in it. Guess it'll help me with the inevitable transition? Then again since it's old I can't really do much testing in the way of game support.
>>69333319This. Mint for me all the way.
>>69333301install mx linux
>>69328148>it is not known exactly why people dont want to update their pc after every few years anymoreReally?
>>69332970>what is wfuc.exe>shills calling people shills
>>69333387MX linux is great.
>>69328148>Win 10 now has larger usage percentage than Win 7 but this wasa achieved in 2018, some years after Win 10 was initially released. So we cant exactly say people have migrated fast away from Win 7. There was also Win 8 in between 7 and 10. Not many people were interested in 8.This kills the windows 7 shitter.
>>69332967>hurrr serisly sors?????????????????????????????Is it really that fucking hard to believe a corporation wants you to buy more phones, you waste of air?
>>69330989>I will keep using windows [insert version here]Heh, zoomers, you have no idea how things work.
>>69333579What got into you?>>69333590Elaborate
this angers the shill
>>69328148>currently only keep Windows 7 around for games at this point>realize that all the games I still play would run on XP since the newest games I own are from 2011 and I'm still using the same GPU I had when I still ran XP>realize that in one year I could return to the comfyness of Windows XP for my games>tfw I'll be with her again soon
>>69332556>A comparatively small capital expense is too expensive
>>69328247>ransomware encrypts your filesDon't download shady porn off of russian websites then?
>>69333864>tfw ran XP until 2011 when i got hit with some virus that made it seem like my hard drive was corrupted
>>69333864>XPLiterally just need your IP to do an ACE attack. Hope you don't intend to do or store anything important with that machine.
>>69334106Tons of driveby attacks download and run shit on your computer without your permission or any interaction
>MS and win10 shills say that you'll be instantly hacked the second you turn off windows updates>mfw one year and still chugging>>69334165Nope, never happened anon. Learn how to use umatrix and ublock origin. Also, delete the trash like remote desktop connection and exercise COMMON SENSE 2019.
>>69334129>Literally just need your IPHave you considered not plugging your computer directly into your modem like it's 1999? Also, I only boot into Windows when I'm playing the few games I still play that need Windows to run.
>>69334277>the only way to have my IP is if I connect directly via a modemwew lad. you've obviously got this. do what you want
@69334337>being this autistic
>>69334337Here's a better idea, I'll just keep windows update turned off and not risk MS breaking my system. I have better defense against russians and malware than MS personally compromising my system and destroying it for personal gain.
>>69332970>paid shill>for an outdated OS whose support is soon to expireDid your brain break or something, you autistic monkey?
>>69331673>>69330989absolute shit taste my dudes
>>69334337>ltsc>not windows server
>>69328148you mean the OS that was>made FREE>people didn't move to it so>IT was FORCED update on people>people still didn't want to move to it>So a bunch of games were made DX12 exclusive to push windows 10 meme>all the new laptops and pcs come with windows 10>multiple years since it's release>massive shilling to this day>just now got 50% of market share, if you count the good goys that let their statistics gatheredYeah, w-windows 10 is doing great guys. FUCK OFF KIKE
>>69334314Do you not understand how firewalls work, or do you actually have port forwarding set up for your main machine and think that's remotely normal to do?
>>69334441o yes, we all know previous versions of windows are anti-jewish and redpilled
>>69328317Do sfc /scannow in an elevated command prompt, and if you still have the installation disc you used you can also use that to repair your system.
>>69334483Do you not understand how software works, or do you actually think you can communicate unmediated without port forwarding?
>>69334518now THIS is pajeetposting.
So umm... if I do get W10 what is the best one to get? Pro?
>>69334503They weren't, but none of them were as bad as windows 10 is.
>>69334571One where you can permanently disable updates. I'd recommend pro or LTSC or LTSB. Don't buy into the marketing of the shills. If you're worried about security, MS is not gonna protect you.
>>69334555>retard doesn't understand the difference between punching holes in a firewall for port forwarding and how dynamic session are maintained through a firewallI knew nu-/g/ was bad, but I didn't know it was this bad.
>>69334659>I'm an oldfag I've been there all summer poster doesn't know shit about technologysurprising.................
>>69334608Alright, is buying a key off of ebay safe and legit because I don't want to pay $100 for W10.How much space does W10 take up, because I want to put the key on a usb stick?
>>69334736I think you can put win10 on a usb, it shouldn't be over 20 GB at worst.>Alright, is buying a key off of ebay safe and legit because I don't want to pay $100 for W10.I'd practice caution when doing that. Some people recommend just pirating LTSC or LTSB and then using a fake authenticator. Whatever works for you.i'm stuck with the 1709 version of win10 home, so I try and make due with as many registry hacks and telemetry deletions as possible, but I know I can't get rid of it all until I switch to Linux, so just gotta do what you can.
Is windows 10 education not trash?I downloaded an iso and product key from imagine before I graduated and read that it doesn't expire, so I can use it if I want.I have it but haven't used it yet because I still like win7.
>>69334772>so I try and make due with as many registry hacks and telemetry deletions as possible, but I know I can't get rid of it allAt this point, why not just use 7?
>>69334845It's even more trash than normal win10 because it's locked down and double-botnet.
>win 7 dies2020 is the year of the Linux desktop
>>69334337im not gonna use any version of window$ 10 and might as well install gentoo when support ends
>>69328148>Microsoft hopes the end of Win7 support will bring in Win10 users*installs gentoo behind you*nothin personnel, pajeet
>>69328148When windows 7 finally does not work on hardware I own, I will become a full time Linux user
8 sucked8.1 sucked10 was the last straw
>>69331583cant you make an internet deal that cuts of internet completely after 200GB for the remainder of the month, so that at least there will be no hidden, sudden extra costs?
>>69334368In all my years of using windows not a single update broke anything. You must be retarded.
Best Windows for lyfe bitches!
>>69328518No? Since 1803 Win 7 to Win 10 upgrades NO LONGER ACTIVATE. You need to upgrade manually to 1709 first.
>>69332138I see windows 8 all the time, although it's actually Server 2012. But has all the windows 8 garbage. >t. remote software consultant
Fuck Windows 10! And fuck thier good awful system killing updates!
>>69334374I'm pretty sure he was implying he was a shill for AMD...
>>69330310ltsb is better
>>69331362>>69331404>>69330310>>69338469>>69331727what is the difference?also how do I activate it without a KMS server?
>>69334845it's basically windows enterprise, but as far as I remember these keys do expire after a couple of years
>>69332795rsync -avz /* /<backup hdd>Boom. Done.
>>69338372>>69331661l2type seething xptard
How long until people just stop buying machnes with windows?When there's no more sales, and MS turns int a support company, they'll die.Imagine windows phone on a grander scale.We're at the x40 stage, soon there'll be the 650's/950's, with MS as the only hardware producer, then it'll just die quietly.