The In-Ear Monitors General: Giant Killer Edition, where we purchase products that punch above their price bracket, showing boomers that you don't have to spend over a thousand dollars to get comparable performance.IEM advice request template:>Your Budget>Your Location>Wired/wireless>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/Earbuds>Sound signature>Past IEMsFeatured IEM: Yinyoo V2 - A $50 powerhouse
Just get tin t2.
>>69310679its better in nearly every way
I think we need to add the Harman/oratory EQs in the general since many anons here like it so much.
>>69310679>Just get tin t2.NO
>>69310687>since many anons like it so muchIt was only mentioned once or twice in these threads. its more of a hpg thing. and people can look shit up by themselves.
is qkz a good earphone manufacturer/company?
>>69310755fuck no lmao. they are copying the chink brand kz but only know how to stack up DDs. They are so terrible that their iems distort at normal volumes because their drivers cant handle the absurd bass boost they subject them to.
>$300>Tokyo>Wireless>Probably earbuds but I'm open to anything>Warm is preferred but not requiredNever used iems before but looking fire something for commuting, maybe with ANC.
>>69310803>wireless>earbudWireless is still complete shit atm. And earbuds are ALWAYS garbage. If you really want that there is the IWS i10s which is a copy-airpods which turned out better than the original.Otherwise wired iems are the way to go.>ANCjust get universal tubed IEM's. Blocks nearly all sound and doesnt fuck up quality while bombarding you with high pitched noise.>warmAt 300 bucks nothing comes to mind but at a hundred there is the bgvp dmg. Not tubed but still isolates pretty well. You can get foam eartips for better isolation.
>tfw mh755 with mmcx connectors. It was a bitch to put together for the first time but i think my second time it will be rather straight forward. Also this chink cable is top notch.
who do you trust for IEM reviews?
>>69310989crin because he's relatively objective and has actually listened to a large range of iems, also because he makes the chifiers mad since he doesn't fall for fotm hype
>>69310947Mind linking the chink cable? Work looks nice btw.
>>Your BudgetBelow 15 AUD preferably, don't mind spending up to 40 if they're particularly good headphones>>Your LocationRooland>>Wired/wirelessWired, though I'm open to more expensive bluetooth IEMS if they have decent battery life.>>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/EarbudsDon't care>>Sound signatureFlat if possible, though I don't mind coloured sound too much.>>Past IEMsKZ ED4sLooking for something with decent sound isolation and media controls. Would be great if I could get something with a removable wire and sound isolation upwards of 20dB (or even 15dB) so they can double as shooting plugs. Those bluetooth adapter things would be a nice bonus as well.
>>69310989Bear in mind crin is known to be sold, right now your best bet is clabinetjunkie, or learn to read raw fr graph.
>>69311158>Coloured soundKill you self.
>>69310803I'll sell you my nicehck dt300 meet me outside e-earphone
>>69311056>>69310989crin is good only for measurements.He's a head-fier and that site takes money from everyone like a whore. Crin himself also got into drama concerning paid reviews.Might seem surprising but unlike HP reviewers we got a nice selection. >clavinet junkieoverly treble sensitive and has a clear preference for HD600 like sound. I think his personal tastes affect a bit too much his recommendations but still.>BadGuyGoodAudioReviewssome fucking mobster living in japan. Has tested loads of Iems including TOTL like Solaris. Has gotten into trouble with a few manufacturers for calling their stuff shit.>SoundphileGreat written reviews with no affiliation as far as i know. probably the most consistent reviewer i know.>IemReviewGuy/ourguy/ >SuperReviewreviews most chink FOTMs. bretty gud.>Zpolt First on chink shit since he lives in Indonesia. decent and aint a paid shill.
>>69310947Does the cable relief hole is enough for mmcx?
>>69311168You got something against coloureds?
>>69311151https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=583721048771it's a taobao cable. lots of option and the cable is such good quality, far better than the one i paid 3 times the price in terms of suppleness.
>>69311163>>69311183post actual proof of crin being a shill, oh wait you can't and you're just mad he put the dm6 at a b-
>>69311158>sound isolationBest offer is the TRN IM1. Its the only Full UV resin/tubed iem i know of at this price range. This kind of Iems is the best for isolation.Its a bit bright though so if you dont like the treble you can put a bit of cotton in the BA tube to alleviate the issue. Sounds great once you do. For extra isolation invest in foam tips.
>>69311189No. the cable relief hole is 3.20mm in diameter and the mmcx connector i'm using (screw type) is 3.66mm and you want the hole to be just slightly smaller so it's nice and snug. You will need a drill bit but don't use a drill, you might shave off more than you need so just slowly drill it using your hands. The material is soft enough for you to do it by hand.
>>69311223B- is a good grade considering the price of everything in A and above. No one actually believes its the best.
>>69311223just look it up faggot this isnt hpg. We arent going to start shitposting about retarded e celebs
>>69311202how the yinyoo? my bro is looking for earbuds
>>69310659Rocking the RHA MA 390... these are very good.
These memes came today as well, the mmcx connector converter makes them really simple to use. Also pro tip, deep insertion gets rid of that nasty 6k peak so treble doesn't sound splashy and harsh. Might filter mod them once i get a second pair of these. For now these are great for reference listening.
>>69311284Pretty meh. Get panda pk2s off aliexpress and be amazed.
>>69310947how do you open the shell?
>>69311302post pics brah
>>69311312That knife edge wedge on the seam and rolling trick someone posted here works great. No damage whatsoever. There is a bit of glue as well but it's just slightly tacky to keep it together.
>>69311303>filter modhow do you go about doing this?
>>69311263>just look it upThere is literally nothing to look up
>>69311303well, mh755 didn't have that
>>69311395Just take out the filters inside the ex1000s, apparently they're more dynamic? I get the feeling the filters mitigate some treble on the ex1000s but we'll see. I need to get a second pair so i don't fuck up. >>69311411I'm not talking about the mh755, i'm talking about the ex1000s. mh755 sound signature is quite different.
>>69311434Oh I thought you'd make a custom filter with a bunch of piddly SMT passives and cram them into the IEM. Which I'd consider doing since I have PCB manufacturing equipment and skills, though I'd really have to go for extra-small parts to fit in anything that isn't a KZ ZS10.
>>69311471sounds cool and would be really great to see. It's just fitting things into such small housings where there wasn't meant to be a pcb makes it an insane challenge.
>>69311497I agree. But changing the existing filter in those KZs for one that actually makes it sound good isn't a bad idea, though for the most part you could probably just swap parts for different values.Another thought is to add an (active?) filter inline with the IEMs and after your DAP/phone. Like this you could flatten out unwanted peaks and broaden out troughs like a custom permanent EQ, that you could fit in a fairly small area. Though you probably couldn't power it off the TRRS's mic bias.
what's the best IEMs for studio monitoring? Will use them to edit videos on the fly.
>>69311604what's your budget?
>>69311303>>69311434Hey anon, hope this helps. The EX1000 with me now already has the filter removed so I'm using old measurements from an old stock EX1000. There'll be differences in the upper treble but it shows the effect of the filter mod quite well.
>>69311690did you find the upper mids to be better? They seem quite forward.
>>69311663$300 if there's a bang for the buck iem available, if none I can use upto $600
>>6931172050/50. Surprisingly the treble becomes more tolerable without the filters because there is less contrast between the midrange and the 6k spike. Overall though I can live with one or the other, I don't think one is inherent superior to the other.
>>69311604>VideosAny iem will do for any that tracking application. Comfort first. You didn't need super flat iem for that. You didn't do mastering.
>>69311730Sony ex800st (Diffuse field neutral, Low isolation), Etymotic er4xr (Diffuse field neutral, High isolation DEEP probing), Moondrop Kanas Pro (Harman neutral, Good quality but still made in china if that means anything to you), Massdrop Plus (Diffuse field neutral with bass boost, you have to go through assdrop)
>>69311754I was going to assume the same because listing at high volumes those peaks are a bit much though i'm finding a deep insertion to help a lot with the peaks and the way the nozzle is made being long and skinny makes me think that sony wanted people to insert them quite deep.
Is iemg comfier than hpg?
>>69311690>>69311434>i'm talking about the ex1000s. mh755 sound signature is quite different.exactly, some people claimed ex1000 is diffuse field.and compensation applied in the graph, it's basically diffuse field that published in 2013 harman target paper, a basis for current harman target.
>>69311873sorry, forgot the graph.
>>69311885those peaks and dips lol
>>69311910For some people, that ~3k dip perceived as distance, and those peaks perceived as detail or directivity, those combined perception can create "soundstage" effect.This also what happens to shp9500 and hd800/s.
can I just get an IEM recommendation that you fags can universally agree is good and won't shit on?
>>69312227post what you're after and what your budget is.
>>69312227>universally agreeNo, not all people has the same taste, experience and knowledge. Also mood, age and listening skill is different.Just enjoy whatever you currently enjoy.
>>69312086I dunno about shp9500s, the sound stage was very average, imaging was okay. Overall the treble peaks just made it sound like a tshhh monsters.
>>69312262Go watch some YouTube and reddit, some people that talks about it it has "soundstage"
>>69312227>asks for advice>wants universal answer and collective agreementgo back to fucking reddit and ask them, they'll give you the correct headphones to buy. they wont do what you want or need but you'll know you did what people on the internet told you
>>69312227you are a fucking faggot but >>69312292is a pretty safe bet
>>69310947>mh755got a seller to rec ?
>>69312421no, too much selller.buy two or more, and ask for serial number.white-orange seems legit, also it's the only variance i encountered that's legit.
>>69312280>go back to fucking reddit and ask them, they'll give you the correct headphones to buy. they wont do what you want or need the purchase advice template was literally stolen from reddit
>>69312292>>69312340>>69312227well dmg is pretty safe bet, warm sound that hard to dislike and no annoying peaks to worry.also consider final e series.
>>69312503>>69312340I have them. They're easy to listen to and still very defined and sonorous for most of my musicNot perfect for things like acoustic, fem vocals, and orchestral pieces; but considering the huge variety in my daily listening they are fantastic.I do notice them being driven a bit better off my Fiio e07k than off my phone's dac, *could* be placebo but it sounds like it adds definition and punch in the low end especially
>>69312645Yep, i think they're tuned for mainstream music. Which is what most people listen to.Good for you anon, enjoy.
>>69312446>buy two or more, and ask for serial numberwhy do you keep saying this part
poor fag here, any decent earphones for 5 dollars? (dont mind if it is chinese)
>>69312715Boy have we got an offer for you...
>>69312711Because in my and colleague of mine first buy, both has no sn and improperly printed labels.Buying two of it prevents the seller to sell you the fakes, and probably if you want to recable them, there's one mh755 for experimenting first.>>69312715Consider legit mh755. Here those are costing around $4.
>>69312280fuck off>>69312292solid rec best we got with no DM6>>69312503yep final and bgvp pick your poison both solid good luck >>69312645based
would eq fix a rolled off high?
>>69312715how do i know you cant afford $5 dollars for headphones but $50 bucks for WEED
>>69312992>DM6What a solid tinnitus machine.
>>69312701What's the difference between earphones being tuned as such and eq them?
>>69313052Eqed correctly(like sonarwork's calibration service) and the driver is mechanically capable, it's marginally minimal.For some reason like: >>69313016 the negative effects are reducing the iem sensitivity and reducing the headroom in the digital domain.
>>69312774I think ill try this one thanks anon
>>69313049well my ears are whores and its been out of stock the past few months so i want to comment but i cant :/personally i dont think its comming back
>>Your Budget$50-$90>>Your LocationSouth America but willing to import>>Wired/wirelessWired>>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/EarbudsOver ear or hanging>>Sound signatureAs neutral as possible>>Past IEMsSoundmagic E10, I liked them except for the treble roll off
>>69313133That's ok, and please don't make other people suffer too.
>>69312992>namefagAaand opinion doesn't count.
>>69313148>neutralMoondrop aria.Or dmg/final e series for comfy warm signature.
Finally got those delivered, now i just have to wait for a better cable and im set. But for now they sound great, best headphones i used so far (because i used shitty ones my entire life).
>>69313520>can't focus a camera
>>69314186my phone camera is shit, that's how it looks when it's focused ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>69314358no, you just don't know how to focus
>>69310947is there a tutorial for this mod available? is there a decent aliexpress seller for authentic mh755?
>>69311303>deep insertion gets rid of that nasty 6k peakI even took off the sleeves to get a deep than deep fit, still got ticked off by peaks. The 6k spike itself is stable with fitting.
>>69317333Have you tried compy tips with the earwax guards? They filter out high frequency peaks pretty well.
>>69312753>Consider legit mh755. Here those are costing around $4.where is that and how can you tell they're legit?
I fell for the TOTL earbuds meme. They have a very clean sound. I'm happy. Too poor to upgrade at that point anyway. (Swd2+)
>>69315479you're a fuckwit.
>>69313520im waiting on the kz zst i also used shitty headphones all my life so hopefully i'll notice a difference
Just get Memetymotics ER4XR and step out of the upgrade train. Buy one good shit instead of 4 chinkshits.
>>69318111No, you're just retarded. The text in the screen is more in focus than the items. Admit it, you can't use a camera.
I'm torn between the KZ AS06 and the KZ SZ7, the latter should be much better considering it has a dynamic driver+1 additional passive, tho I can't seem to find any decent review of the SZ7
>>69313520Is the ZSN cable that bad? Thinking of buying one.
>>69311309What’s so great about them and what is that blue thing?
What kz 0.75 cable do you guys recommend?Should one go with L shape or not?
>>69316580No and no.
>>69317333>Took off the sleeves That makes any earphone sound terrible. No proper seal, everything sounds thin and harsh. You need the smallest tips you can find that still create a seal and let you go deep. The 6k peak will still be present but it won't be intolerable. Most people who try the ex1000 do so with a shallow fit which makes the peaks intense and over emphesized.
>>69318770It was a simple canal resonance check, leakage wouldn't touch the highs.The initial fitting was already around the second bend, and the EX1000 isn't as fit dependent as most.
>>69319260Must not work for you then.
what's the point of diminishing (in $) returns for IEMs?
>>69320274My uneducated guess is about 300 dolans?Correct me if I'm wrong, anons.
Got ‘em!Like a more neutral DM6. Ironic because one review I read said it was the other way around. These are quite good.
Should i buy the boarseman k25 or the ve monk plus?
>>69320669I don't care
>>69310679Are these unironically the "best" iems just cause they're cheap and really fucking good to the point where upgrades are hundreds of dollars more expensive and are tiny upgrades?
>>69318346>Is the ZSN cable that bad? Thinking of buying one.Nobody said the ZSN cable is bad...
>Your BudgetUnder $100>Your LocationU.S., but I'd be willing import. >Wired/wireless>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/Earbuds>Sound signature>Past IEMsSomething like these JVC HA-FXD70They've been discontinued.What's up with MMCX connectors? They look great.
I WANT THE BEST EARBUDS AVAILABLE. I DON'T WANT TO STICK THEM IN TOO DEEP.WHAT IS THE THE UNDISPUTED KING OF EARBUDS?
>>69320699I don't care that you don't care
>>69320953What's your budget?
should i get the bullets wireless from oneplus? they're probably crap but i can't find any non shill info about them online
>>69318346Not at all, but mine that came with the headphone has a curve that makes wearing them a little uncomfortable. I was expecting that so i ordered a diffrent one.
I bought a chink qt2, they're broken, left side goes blind after a while. Give good advice as to a brand and a model that doesn't have issues. It should be written in the opening post which brands and models to avoid.
>>69321831Every brand has change to give you a bad day. Just request for a new one.
what's the best budget iem I can possibly get?
>>69322051T2s on special probably, but it depends on whether that counts as budget.
>>69322051What’s your budget nigger?
>>69320502I prefer them to the DM6They feel a lot smoother and easier to listen to
>>69321906I contacted by mail. I have that warranty card so I'll see where it goes. Sending this shit over to China is going to be a pain
>>69321906qt2 failure is a common issue that not very many people seem to bring up, it's not just a freak one off thing
>>69322290It should be mentioned in the op
es4+nicehck foam tips.They prob. measure well but man do they sound well for cheap.Heard good things about the kz zsn aswell.(use the the same driver set up?)
I've never had nice IEMs, Is it possible to get decent sound compared to over the ear headphones? I don't expect reference-headphone levels of sound quality, but roughly equivalent to a decent pair of over-ears.I have a budget of around $110
>fucked up T2s because didn't know how MMCX worked and now there's interference on the right earbud since the internal connector is fucked up>got T2 Pros to replace them>highs are piercingShould've just gotten the DMGs......
>>69322051Here are the 5 star under $50 IEMs sorted according to budget. Each "$" is $10 ordered from most to least expensive so you can figure out without telling us how poor you really are.
>>69321831sorry to hear that anon were you the one from a few threads back ? i have been abusing my QT2 and they are doing fine. Did you dispute or attempt the fix i showed you ?
>>69322365Remove revonext qt2. They're broken piece of shit
>>69322250I agree they’re easier to listen too but I prefer the DM6’s personally. I feel like more people would choose the DMG’s over them though.
>>69322384There's a fix? I can't dispute, they want a video. I'd need a stereo microphone and leaving a camera to record for hours to capture the issue.
>>69322384Does it say crossover?
>>69322365remove all 2-pin and it is a halfway decent list
>>69322345do this a few more times and you'll regret not saving up for andros or orions
>>69322304ES4 has a laid back sound, ZSN has a "in your face" sound.
>>69322571Are you done the blinds test between those?
>>69320502do this a few more times and you'll regret not saving up for andros or orions
>>69322339Yes. I have 6 pairs of headphones and I think my IEMs sound goodYou trade soundstage for isolation, which is great for a lot of thingsYou should look at the BGVP DMG, they're really good.
Who is more based?>Zishan anonWho is knowledgeable, spreads good advice, but sometimes goes on irrelevant tangents.Or >IEM guyWho doesn't know what he's talking about, has shown to give innacurate impressions, but is dumb enough and wealthy enough to keep buying chink iems so that we don't have to bite the bullet.
>>69322859Neither I filtered them both
>>69322878Good on you.
>>69322775>BGVP DMGLooks like a pretty good recommendation, and active massdrop to save a little money, thanks.My daily use headphones are the hd6xx so isolation over soundstage will be a different experience, don't mind as long as it's an enjoyable listening experience.
>>69322740I'll compare them now, though ES4s with oratory EQs are beastly and is my favourite.
Need some decent, rugged IEMs with a microphone, corded normal mic jack, no bluetooth or USB bullshit. Used mostly for work meetings while on the go, will be tossed into my laptop bag and generally abused. Budget is $350,000 USD but would prefer to spend less. Suggestions?
>>69322740>>69323009disclaimer: I'm fairly new to IEM world, and I don't use shitty ass jargon words. I will just describe what I hear. I used Casiopea's album Mint Jams for testing of the ES4 and ZSN.ZSNs, right of the bat, has a better fit and feel on my fairly-large ears compared to all KZs I have tried (ES4s are close enough though). ZSNs are also clearer sounding, and it actually makes the ES4s sounds muddy in comparison (the oratory EQ fixes that of course, but that's cheating). Mids are totally more forward in ZSNs (which I guess makes them have that "in your face" sound). ZSN's bass is slightly thin (less body) on the kicks of the drums though for some reason? (especially weird since I've seen FR measurements of them almost being the same on the lows).I'd recommend the ZSNs more if this is your first "nice" IEMs, or if you have a dark sounding set right now and want a clearer set. It also comes down to personal preference (some faggots here at /g/ completely dismisses that shit).
>>69322345What did you do anon?
Reminder the chinks are hoarding all the MH755s
>>69324293Holy, is that 20$?
>>69323437Zsn and es4 are already dark.Get clr100 for beyer-like experience.>>69323044>ruggedGet a case like from pelican or kz knockoff and detachable cable iem.
How are you liking the nuansa P1?
>>69322908You should enjoy them, having the driver inside your ear and the response curve will make them a lot punchier than you're used to with the 6xxThey'll definitely be much nicer on the go too, lol
>>69324467And hd 6xx has rolled off bass, while dmg didn't.
>>69324564That's what I was saying when I referenced the freq response
Dmg is $200 are you kissing me
>>69320873No. For 50 dollars there average at best and have sharp highs that kill most treble heavy sound and hurts to listen to. Literally 30-50 dollars more and you have a pair of iems that can actually balance everything well, shit like etymotic and hifiman.
>>69324703Where? Mine were $110 on 11/11
>>69310659What TOTL iem should I get if I want both detail and a more fun/warm tuning?I'm thinking either Andromeda, Jomo Samba or maybe U12t.Anyone have any of these?
halp me:>Your Budget~$50>Your LocationAustralia>Wired/wirelesswired>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/Earbudsearbuds>Sound signaturedon't care about sound signature>Past IEMscurrent ones are Sennheiser CX 300-II.I just want something that I can use for handsfree phone calls that has a decent mic so that my side doesn't sound so open/noisey.
>>69324854Ry4s mic version.
if I'm only going to be listening to music on youtube do I even need IEMs?
>>69325054Yep, most iem has more balanced audio than most earbud.
>Your Budget $50 or less ideally, I can go to $100 if there's really something exceptional though. >Your Location US>Wired/wireless Wired>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/Earbuds Hanging IEMs>Sound signature Flat, or warm. >Past IEMs None, pls no bully
>>69324837I had Andromedas, which I sold because BA bass timbre just wasn't doing it for me. They would be a great choice as an all-rounder with a warm tilt. I can't remark on the Samba or U12t having never touched them, but I know that the U12t has near-universal acclaim and honestly any of the three would be solid for your purposes, IMO. You best bet is to get out to a meetup or visit a shop that has at least 1-2 of them to try, otherwise happy hunting my dude!
>>69325129Yinyoo V2s. The featured one in this thread right now.
>>69324837andromeda is fun/warm and a/u12t is more neutral, i don't know about the jomo
>>69325229>>69325297They're all barely an upgrade over the dm6s. The only iem iem that is a worthy upgrade at that price is the jomo trinity.
>>69325420the dm6 is barely an upgrade over the iems that come with your phone
Best budget wireless IEMs?
>>69325451You say that but you've never heard them.
>>69325484i mean it's not like you've heard any of the iems you're talking about either, the trinity isn't even out yet
>>69325129>FlatCrescent/mh755 for lower than 50. Aria for 100.Etymotic if you want the ruler flat bass.>WarmDmg if you can stretch more, final e2000 for $50 or lower. Also consider t2 too, it's neutral but not as flat as mh755 and moondrops.
>>69325454Do yourself a favor, buy kz/trn Bluetooth cable module and and get your preferred iem that has detachable cable.
>>69325451C O P EOPE
What IEMs should I get off I want something that sounds pathetic and tinny, with zero soundstage and no detail retrieval?
>>69325542I have, demo unit jaben SG. You need to step up.
>>69325614What kind of battery life can I expect from the KZ module?
>>69325720May I ask why do you wanna something like this? If so why?>>69313130>reducing the headroom in the digital domainWhat do you mean by this?>>69322345What did you do?
>>69323437>mint jamsmah nigger
>>69325946mahh nigaOne of, if not, the best shit that YouTube has recommended to me. Listening to it is kinda my daily ritual now.
>>69326134Yeah for some reason Casiopea is a hit on the YouTube algorithm right now.
>>69310659i found some earbuds in a gutter one dayi did a reverse image search and found out they were actually quite expensive>stick in ear>play music>turn head to look out window>earbud falls out>put it back it>ouch.wavseriously why the actual fuck to people use this shitbuy some headphones
>>69325720>zero soundstageAll iem didn't has any soundstage, physically speaking.>pathetic and tinny>no detail retrievalEtymotic with rolloff filter at around 8-10k.
What's /g/'s opinion on KZ iems? There's a shitload of them
>>69325761Variable reports.Mostly less than 4 hours.>>69326254It's all fotm.But ed9 is nice though, ed16 is good too.
>>69323521>>69325812I didn't know the fingernail trick for removing the MMCX connector and the stock cable is fragile as fuck, the shielding got lodged into the connector and I managed t remove it with a thin set of tweezers but one of the two half-pins that make up the center pin was accidentally knocked out. It connects and produces sound but every now and then produces a hiss interference as well. This only crops up when using mobile devices and not my desktop audio set up, but I have IEMs for mobile devices and headphones or speakers for desktop audio so...
>>69325812When you eq to boost something, eg treble, you must reduce the mid and bass to avoid distortion, thus negative pramp value is needed.
>>69326325if it still connects and locks fine just get a soldering iron and draw a bead of solder out from the centre conductor and fill the gap.
What's the consensus on RHA MA650 Wireless?
>>69310679I liked everything about the t2 except it's treble. Anything out there that is basically a t2 but without the grain?
best neutral earphones under 10 dollars?
I'm going to Tokyo this April for a short vacation and I plan to buy some JDM FitEar IEMs (pic very related). Which shop has the most complete line-up with a good price?http://fitear.jp/music/news/pr/news180622.html
>>69320669Get mx500s fren
>go to sony wisma atria to demo the IER-Z1R to confirm if shillacles meme is true>no longer in storeFUCK
>>69327417Also, this is how they measure. How does it look for you guys?
>>69327384Mh755 legit.It's cheap and relatively hard to access, but it's worth the near perfect sound.
>>69327486This how real in ear "monitor" sounds.
>>69327486No expert here but the high frequency seems to roll off a tad early? This is the ER4SR for reference.
>>69327486meh measurements. fit ear is for die hard weebs but there are plenty better out there.
>>69327417>electrostatic tweeterHow does that even work?
>>69327527It's proper stage monitor, that's why it's has rolled of treble. Too much treble can be fatiguing.
>>69327547high voltage electric vs high voltage electric drives the diaphragm - in a normal speaker its low voltage electric making a magnetic field vs the natural magnetic field of the permanent magnet. [picture related]
>>69327533Are you blind? >>69327486 this is how a perfect diffuse field equalized transducer IEM looks like.
Going to Jaben singapore to demo IEMs, tell me what you want me to compare and I will post results tomorrow.
>>69327950Don't care for your impressions, you nobody and I'd rather trust my own ears than someone else. At least measurements tell me something.
>>69328031>At least measurements tell me something.how not to be chinked and be an audiophool.
>>69328362a.k.a natural selection
>>69328150Really? I read that they have a similar grain to the t2's.
>Tin T2 arrives>cable is fucked up because of the way it was packed in the box>permanent bend in the cable right by the split and the strain relief is broken as wellDo I open a dispute on AliExpress now?
>>69327848>perfect diffuse fielddiffuse field depends on the room and mainly your ear.this is dummy head(which is modelled after many human head and ear) diffuse field, notice that peaks at 3khz.
>>69328612you're fucked bro. next time buy some western tech instead of chink garbage.
>>69328612I mean, if you fine being chinked, then chinked away.
>>69328631>>69328646>tfw dumb gweilo gets CHINK'EDHopefully my TRN BT10 cable worksSent a message to the seller, might be able to get a partial refund out of him
>>69328668Ain't the cable that's supplied with T2s are shit anyway? Hope you got a refund though.
How's your setup anon?Currently listening to this, maybe some trance too after this.
>>69328891Yeah, the cable feels and looks like shit. Thankfully my trn bt10 cable works, not really hearing the hissing that other anons pointed out
>>69327547Transformer conversion of input to high voltage suited for electrostatics. The restriction to high frequencies makes a tiny transformer useable. The diaphragm must be polarized. I can only assume this is being done with the signal without any other information.It is not clear to me what engineering function an electrostatic unit in an IEM serves, but that is something else entirely.>>69328628>>69328617>this dummy headThis is a free-field, or anechoic, response. Note the specific angle this references, 45 degrees. This lacks the usual characteristic of averaging out the 1kHz dip, which is from the shoulder bounce.>depends on the roomA diffuse field is the averaged response of all directions at once. It refers to a specific physical condition. A near approximation would be locking you in a ball of speakers in an anechoic space and playing them all back at once. A specialized reverberation room is another.
GUYS WHAT'S THE BEST PAIR OF EARBUDS?UNDER $30
>>69329093Thanks for correcting me.I choose that picture because it seems to has that distinctive 3khz peak by eyeballing it, also it's in first column of google image search. Im sorry.
>>69329437Are they better than the edifier h180 which are also supposed to be better than the be monk?
>>69328484No ? Thats one of its selling points
>>69329520Nobody seems to have a definitive answer as to what is the best earbud. It's really annoying.
>>69330142because finding the best pieces of shit isn't very compelling.
>>69327486Thick upper bass and lower midrange, bump in the middle treble. Not entirely clear which point is canal resonance (~8k?), but the large earpiece would make it hard to produce a deeper fit.May lack a bit of deep bass.>>69327752If it were a stage monitor, they would broadly shelve the entire treble rather than just the top end. Think the tuning typical of Shure, Earsonics, Westone, etc.
>Your Budget$75>Your LocationUSA>Wired/wirelesswireless, like actually for real wireless. they need to fit underneath OSHA approved noise cancelling earmuffs>Over-ear IEMs/Hanging IEMs/Earbudssee above>Sound signatureideal something designed for spoken word>Past IEMsskullcandy titans
I primarily listen to alot of Drum n Bass, so what should I be looking for in IEMs that bring out percussion and bass?
>>69331997>Using earphones at workHope you die lad
iem's for running, specifically that definitely won't fall out of my ears? (they always do for me) budget upwards of £100, preferably lower though.
>>69331333>The FitEar EST was the first universal IEM to feature Sonion’s electrostatic drivers. Although they’ve now run rather rampant amongst manufacturers worldwide, I was interested to hear FitEar’s iteration of the new technology – especially given my experience with the Electro and Trinity. While the Electro adopts a more linear, reference profile, and Jomo’s Trinity endorses clarity, air and technical performance, the EST strikes a relatively healthy in-between. It’s a fun-sounding all-rounder very much in line with the Lime Ears Model X, Campfire Audio Andromeda and the 64Audio A18t.>It’s a jack-of-all-trades with balance between body and clarity; warmth and definition. On one hand, it deals every genre with equal musicality. It’s a forgiving monitor that – pardon the cliché – sounds good with everything. Its midrange in particular is highly linear and pristinely clear, even if it could’ve been more saturated. But, I get the feeling it doesn’t flex its electro-muscles very often. Now, that can be a good thing; it’s more effortless than the Trinity, for example. However, to those looking at it as a potentially eye-opening experience, you might be left nodding, “M-kay.” But, those simply eyeing a fun-sounding, clear, do-it-all that’s more a cheaper A18t than the Electro is, the EST is a very suitable candidate.Do you think this is a good description of how the EST sound like?
>>69333456just get foam tips
>>69328927Current setup is A&K Futura SE100 and Acoustune HS1670. I've been playing the Spiderverse soundtrack on the loop for the last couple of days.
>>69333441cool man, but do you only protect your ears at work?
about to jump on the DMGs. please dont be a fucking meme. and which color faggots?
DMG vs Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD's? Is the difference that large?
>>69330142For under $30, the best earbuds you can get is the one that comes with your chink phone, I'm not even lying.
>>69334009Why are you so hell-bent on the fitears?
What to get for under <€15?I've been looking at the plethora of KZ iems but I understand nothing, can anyone share any experience? I was also thinking about the Tin Audio T2 for a bit more money but I'm not really sure. I've never tried IEMs because I've always had problems in the past when trying to fit any pair I could find but I'm willing to try them for once
>>69311202sauce on that one?
>>69335743TRN V20.Good for the price but there are better options.
>>69335626what kind of music do you listen to ?
>>69335781Rock, alternative and some with lots of vocals but I'd use them mostly for podcasts anyway since I have proper listening headphones at home. Generally anything that isn't bass-heavy is fine for me
>>69326254i miss the bass from my KZ ZS5 (v1) , fucking 2-pin a shit
>>69335820Then the T2's are a perfect fit. Unless you are a bit treble sensitive then you should pick the yinyoo v2 which has less hot treble.
>>69336202I'm fine with treble, I'll consider them then, thanks. Do you know by any chance if they fit easily or if I should buy different tips?
>>69336238they are a bit heavy and some people have trouble with fit because tin audio are retarded and you have to reverse the earpieces to get a good fit. The included tips are fine. If you fear they might not fit you can order universal earwings that will help greatly.
someone mentioned the revonext qt2 can be repairedcome back and explain please
is 2pin better than mmcx if i plan to switch between different cables multiple times a day?
>>69336602likely yes. No idea why you'd swap cables so much.
>>69336602why would you need to change a cable that much? neither is going to last as long as you'd hope they would if you're going to do that
>>69336633>>693366022 pin is designed for repeated unplugging unlike mmcx. Not a good idea to remove cables this much though.
>>69326891So I'd just be creating more surface area on the connector to touch more of the remaining jack?Neat idea and I will give it a try, anon.
Finally sitting down to have a good listen to the EX1000 and in their stock form the tunning is quite brutal. There is a dip between 3k and 4k that contrasts the 5k peak making vocals sound blunted. Because the peak at 5k is juxtaposed by two dips on either side, that peak sounds incredibly emphasized. Listening to the hi-hats and snares on the song by Saba called LIFE makes these two issues incredibly apparent. His voice sounds nasal and the hi-hats are absolutely piercing. You cannot listen to that track without feeling violated at even low volumes. Those hi-hats hit that 5k peak perfectly and it's deadly. Anyways, i've made a rudimentary EQ to bring up that 3-4k dip and tame the 5k peak enough that it is within line with the other frequencies. I've adujested some of the upper frequencies to even out the response as well. Once you get past this hurdle the EX1000 is really really impressive. >>69312086 said that peaks account for extra perceived detail and that 3k dip creates soundstage but i don't believe that's the case.Sure peaks emphasize certain instruments but it's not pleasant and does not bring out details that might fall on other parts of the spectrum. After EQ the ex1000 still demonstrates a ton of resolution and detail across the frequency range. Sounds stage and imaging is still right up there for an IEM, not quite HD800 levels but it's still great, specially the imaging. It's well worth the trouble to EQ because these really shine after some tweaks. If anyone has some more advance EQ settings for the ex1000 please link me.
>>69334614If you're doing anything that requires fucking ear protection you shouldn't be wearing in ears moron. Hope you die man
>>69335011Yes it's not even comparable. For starters, the DMG actually has bass.
>>69336602yes slightly but in practice swapping cables never works out just buy more chink headphones. I have a 3.5mm Tin T2 and BT Tin T2 just to avoid the fuckery >>69336617>>69336633 im guessing when the BT battery dies, mine does not have enough juice for the rides i go on and fuck necklaces>>693366662pin is designed for ECONOMY and for you to buy a second set of $50 chink headphones when one inevitably falls off into oblivion>>69336776my pleasure anon, i did that exact same fix when i stepped on my BGVP SDG DN1 in 2016>>69337267nah bro i have worked safely inside a hanger using isolation of IEMs when the outside flight line turboshafts were blasting 110db at us for hours. Kept me sane. [picture unrelated] NICEHCK PHB EM-023 andromeda clone
>>69337898Dude when you are being blasted by 110db on a daily basis you need more than some iems to properly isolate. you're compounding music with outside noise. not the best idea. at least wear some ear muffs over top your iems.
>>69337956It wasnt every day and i did muff up man.
>>69337205Try the parametric, it can target better.>>69334009Reads like a horoscope.I guess it could be called "fun", it has a somewhat smiley EQ to it. Thicker than reference level.Lacks the normal upper-mid bump, so these will lack some vocal "presence".
>>69334051Wow, that's luxurious setup anon.>>69311202Memes or not, as long you still enjoyed it, that's a good thing.>>69337205Nice eq anon, and next try parametric equalizer.By the way those soundstage and detail thing only work on certain people (probably new to audio world), so that's not an absolute thing.>>69338103Be safe zishan anon.
when an IEM has 5BAs or more, are they all fullrange, or have different crossover points, or "it depends" on implementation?
1more quads vs DMG?
https://www.amazon.ca/BTR1-Bluetooth-Headphone-Amplifier-Transmission/dp/B075YD83Y9Does this shit actually work? Seems like a better use of money to buy iems and this rather than shitty quality Bluetooth in ears. I'll just be using wireless at work desk and at the gym .
>>69339264seems like the worst of both worlds.>still have to deal with tangled cables>still have to charge batteries
>>69339120It will vary on what they think is appropriate. Full range drivers work a lot nicer in IEMs than loudspeaker units, but a typical method is to assign a dual receiver to a single band.
>>69339120different crossover points with each BA unit being specifically manufactured to take care or a specific frequency range. The company does further tunning and filters to get the FR just right.
>>693391971 more quads every time.
I want clear and deep bass (listen to a lot of drum and bass) for <$250USD with anything but a 2-pin connector
>>69339576I think the Quads are muddy (mid bass) compared to DMGs though?
>>69339120they are all crossovered usually groupped according to octaves (musical energy)literally 20hz-100hz, 100hz- 2khz, 2khz - 20khz could would be common. Its easy to split and it stops intermodulation distortion (bass fighting treble)Crossover design gets super complicated when using analogue passive components as they put a hard limit on the filters can like to use (1st 2nd 3rd order linkwitz-riley or buttersworth ) and then you get into the phase effects of crossover and the "group delay" and it gets complicated still. I wonder how many chinks model this versus just banging drivers together through trial and error. Im a fan of 18db buttersworths with an inverted midrange phase per the "le cleache" modelling i use on my ultracurve >>69339264GAY. any cord longer than 30cm is not wireless, those things are for full size can guys to strap to their headband. [pic related] is what happens when you just shove a bunch of drivers together and dont do any tuning. Its fucking horrific. FEVER.
>>69340106>is what happens when you just shove a bunch of drivers together and dont do any tuningthat's just every kz iem
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/anker/soundbuds-curveIs there a better wireless in ear in the same budget range?
>>69321185Which cables did you order? I just received my ZSN's today after ordering on Dec 21st. I'm enjoying them so far but I wasn't expecting the molded cables.
>>69340381You could remove them though?
>>69340396Can I? Looks like it would be pretty hard to remove from the cable.
>>69340482you just pull it out...
>>69340482I use a knife at the end where it stops and slice it up a little bit, then I'd peel it off.
>>69340502A nail cutter would be safer though, since ZSNs have no metal-ass memory wire.
>>69340491I like to think I'm not a total imbecile, I did have to plug them in when I got them after all. I'm talking about the molded plastic shit that goes up and around my ear... not the cord itself.
>>69340502>>69340506Got it, thanks. I'll give that a try.
Hi everyone, I managed to borrow a laptop from my friend and was able to setup the config for the EQ in APO from oratory. Is there any way to import this to Android for viper? Or about that anon with the wav file based on oratory? (for tin t2 btw) Sorry for being new to all of this.
>>69340631The FIREqualizer on the Viper seems too limited though? The only that could be done for Android is to load an IRS created in the AutoEQ software.
>>69340799I see. Yeah, I tried using Viperbox but it's limited to 20+ something in gain, and also you can't set a preamp. That guy mentioned that he has an irs for the convolver so I was hoping he could drop a link. I guess I'll just wait to get back home then and check AutoEQ. Thanks anon.
Just got the Final Audio E4000, how did I do?
>>69340931do you like it?
>>69335329I'm a weeb.
>>69341036just get hylas
>>69341036makes sense. crin ranked those iems as B tier which is kinda laughable at 1000+ dollars. Not that it's indicative of how great something is but i'd want some of those technicalities to flex for that amount of money. Sure fitear is using this new electrostatic driver but no one has quite mastered them yet. Jomo's trinity din't gain an edge over their previous attempt with BA only set ups and we've yet to see what moondrop will do with their flagship.
>>69341073I'm in a bit of pinch. Seems it's hard to get a really good IEM in the $1,000 to 1,500 range, preferably of Japanese origin. Alternatively there is the 64 Audio U12t which is pure awesome but a bit beyond my budget.
>>69341112jesus dude, your nationalism/weebooness is off the charts. Did you consider the andromedas? Those have a big cult following in japan due to their japanese tunning. Great for jpop and female vocals. If you really want to stay within japan and you don't care to get the best bang for your dollar i would venture into the following brands and models.Hyla TE-5B or CE-5 if you can find them used. They are very limited iems but worth your time and money.Kumitate Labs KL-Sirius, not difficult to find and within your budget.Acoustune HS1650 or their lower end models. Great dynamic drivers and interesting designs that actually compete within their respective price range.
>>69341262>Acoustune HS1650 or their lower end models. Great dynamic drivers and interesting designs that actually compete within their respective price range.I can heartily recommend these. I have the HS1670 and not only that they sound excellent, they are a good value for the money. I love the tuning of these, it has a warm sound but has an extra treble sparkle that does wonders with female vocals and clarity but never reaches sibilance. The funny thing is if you don't tell people that this thing is "only" a single DD IEM, they would probably have guessed that it's a multiple BA unit.
>>69341380It goes to show that multiple drivers aren't the only way to perfect your frequency response, tuning your acoustic cavity is equally valid.
>>69341380Forgot to mention that I'm a huge EX1000 fan (but sold them because of the treble peak and poor isolation) and this is literally their modern successor without the shortcomings. Basically I'm a DD IEM guy, BA can never reproduce the kind of bass dynamic driver does.
>>69341424i found the hs1650 to be less resolving and didn't have the speed and technical abilities of ex1000s. Without eq i can see why you'd go for the hs1650s. They're great for the money, easy to love tunning actually isolate but definitely not on the level of ex1000s. ex1000s is more of a in home/studio iem but acoustunes actually fit the role of portable hifi.
>>69320502>More neutral DM6You know the DMG is a bassy as fuck IEM right?
>>69341500I kind of agreed, that was why I ponied up a bit more for the HS1670.
>>69327527That's compensated you dip
>>69341661I was mostly referring to the treble. The DMG’s have more mid-bass but less sub-bass than the DM6. It’s pretty bizzare considering the DMG has a dual diaphragm DD while the DM6 just has that fat Knowles bass driver.
>>69339885>I want clear and deep bass (listen to a lot of drum and bass)Get some iem tuned like harman bass, avoid mud area boost.Moondrop products should be good. Or mh755 for best performance/value>>69341724Nope, er4sr has spec 20hz to 16khz.
>>69340939> do you like it?we tell him what he should. thats why he is here.
>>69337898dumb fucking nigger. You can buy mmcx for like 2 cents on ali express stores. chinks have had the tolling for years and manufacture for shure and shit. it costs them nothing its just a design choice
>>69342287Do you know what compensated means?
>>69340263no. kz arent the best but they do make decent offerings in the budget price bracket. You dont know what true garbage is until you try a qkz pair
>>69341424Mh755 if you're really care about the sound.>>69342379Compensated or raw didn't change the fact that er4sr is giving up around 16khz.
>>69342370oh im sorry you have obviously managed large production runs of precision microelectronics ill shut up now
interdasting it seems SENFER has some new models no one has talked about here. Not on audiobudget either Senfer DT8
Senfer EN900ooh thats kinda fresh aesthetic
how do i fix these?the left earphone goes blank after an hour of use, it reverse back after a while of resting
>>69342659Does it actually open back?While only something superlux hd381 has better opennnes, because it's semi open.>>69342698Heat related?
>>69342717definitely, and someone mentioned a fix, is there really one?
>>69342698see>>69322384first make sure you have the torx bit to unscrew themthen run a soldering iron over the joints on the crossover / interface pcb on the back of the big driver. done.