Previous thread: >>68787730Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).Libreboot-compatible models:>T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500.Modern models:>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0>T440s - best price/performance ultra portable>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)Upgraded models:>X210 - X200/X201, i5 8250u quadcore>X62 - X61, i5 5250u>T70 - T60, i7 7700 hqIPS displays, USB 3.0, m.2 x4, mini dp, nohttps://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117Why ThinkPad?>Used machines are plentiful and cheap>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet>Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain>The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki>BIOS logo booru:http://biosimage.booru.org
x230-san is best
Does anyone have the Lenovo perks password/code.
Is there a tutorial to remove the whitelist of a T440p without the need of a programmer?I remember that someone was shilling the T440p because its whitelist can be removed with a certain BIOS revision.
>>68818572#GOBBLE I think
>>68818574dunno i whitelisted mine with a programmertweaked the bios myself though, fuck paying a jew for something so simple
>>68818654I have a programmer already. but I want info in the non programmer mod.It appears that I misinterpreted the whole thing. I still need to use the shitty programmer.Oh, well.
Which generation of the X1 Carbon do you guys recommend?
I have an Ideapad 110-15IBR.Any advices on what I should upgrade or something?
Hey bros, where to buy battery replacements for an x230? I thought about Lenovo, but won't anything from there be old stock?t.thinkpad newbie
>>68819374I buy them from Aliexpress
>>68819374Idk, some people on eBay offer year warranties and offer new OEM
Just replaced the single-pipe heatsink in my T420 with a double-pipe one. I don't know why it's such a big difference, I didn't realize that the single pipe was as wide as the two pipes together, but it does. I was previously idling at low to mid 50s, and now I idle in the mid-to-high 40s. Games were previously hitting a thermal cap of 80C and thermal throttling, and now they hover in the high-60s to mid-70s, without throttling. Same IC and everything. I don't know what the secret sauce is that fixed everything, but I'm pretty satisfied with how it turned out, second most effective 10bux I've spent on this Thinkpad since I started modding it.
what is the discord for tpg?
>>68818462I have the following choice:Refurbished T430 - 200.00 €i5-3320M 2x2,6 GHz 22 nm4 GB RAM (1x4GB, 1 free slot)Intel HD 4000 GPU500 GB HDD1600 x 900 Display5h battery lifeUsed T530 - 213.90 €i7 3520M 2x2,9 GHz 22 nm4 GB RAM (1x4GB, 1 free slot)nVidia NVS 5400M500 GB HDD1600 x 900 Display"working" batteryWhich one should I get?
>buy an x61>some guy dies so the post office is closed>it still hasn't shipped>>68820243Interesting. I should see what's in my x220 and replace the thermal paste if it's the double.
>>68818462That is an adorable little hedgehog. What is his or her name?
>>68820256>he doesn't know
>>68820339>Which one should I get?You're missing a crucial requirement to make this decision, namely what you want to do with the fucking thing.
>>68820433>order socks with free 2day shipping from amazon on tuesday>they would have been here a day early if not for that old warmonger finally descending into hellfucking bush is such a fag man
>>68820496Buying a SSD, a i7 quadcore CPU, upgrade to 8 GB RAM to finally install Qubes with some VMs.
how long would gentoo base + X + openbox + qutebrowser take to compile on an X200?
>>68820536I will just program on this thing.
Asked in /fglt/, but I figured I'd ask here too. I recently got a new 9 cell for my x230, and the xfce power manager is displaying the battery specs wrong, saying that it's 139% charged. Will this negatively affect anything and if so how do I fix it?
Would it be possible to put an USB 3.1 Type-C port with Thunderbolt in a X230 using the Expresscard slot? It has a 1x PCI-E lane right?
I have a T-420 running dual-booting Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and Windows 7. My windows 7 mouse does not work at all not even in safe mode. But it works fine in Ubuntu. Any solutions?
>>68818508Just got mine in a few days ago and i love her so much. Lightweight, compact, and just a joy to use.
>>68820339I would choose the T430
>you will never be a hedgehog
>>68822100Wew ladSO x230 ANON HEREI replaced the thermal paste, fucking pain in the ass. Then a key somehow got stuck after i put the keyboard back on and then I fixed it. AND THEN MY SSD wouldn't fit in the drive so it took some more time. My idle temps are 45C after all that work, baka im never opening this shit up again besides the msata install.
>>68822232x230 owner here, yeah that's probably a good idea if ur not a backpack hoe
i bought this thing on ebay for $600https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W701DS-17-LED-Laptop-With-Core-i7-1-60GHz-8GB-RAM-Broken-1TB-HD-/302977782843?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137i replaced the keyboard with the keyboard of my dead R60. now i need to tear it down to see what's wrong with the second screen. xrandr doesn't even detect it. if i can find a wacom palmrest, i'll buy that too as i lurk aliexpress. everything else seems solid aside from that, nice laptop.- CPU could be upgraded to Core i7-940XM- supports 32GB ram- two hard drives- two thinklights- eGPU compatible
>>68822806also the bios is like the T60 bios, but it's Core i7
Snagged a t440s for 230$, did I do good?
>>68822806>be sitting in the comfy seat at uni>some wheelchair asshole rolls up like a fag>asks me to move>don't want to>fuckin bithc goes crying to the professor, prof makes me move>everyone in class acting like I'm the bad guy>just wanted the extra space for my thinkpad and second monitorfucking disableds are insufferable, selfish bastardshe didn't even have to attend class, all the lectures are recorded and posted online anyhow
>>68822956sliding out your second screen is flexing the #1 chad power move
Seriously though why did the 8 key on my keyboard get stuck? x230 herei don't even know how i fixed it
>>68818508Just switched the hdd to ssd. Currently waiting on new keyboard. Still conflicted on whether to swap the case with a new one or just cover it with stickers tho. But overall, loving this thing.
>>68818462Repostan;realistically, how much should a britfag pay for a mint uxga t60p? there's one for £250 which is way more than I would pay for a regular t60 but it's the first uxga I've seen in years
thinking of getting a t420 for some programming on the go and general computing when i’m not at my desktop. what’s the bad points of a t420? and how hard is the quad core mod?
>>68818462Two weeks into waiting for my X220...It arrives on Monday, haven't killed myself yet.
>>68825232max 1600x900 screenGet a good battery! Then it is fine for on the go.Quad Core Mod is easy, as long as you stay with Sandy BridgeGreat Keyboard!
How much should I pay for a x201 with 8 gigs of ram and a ssd, The price is 100 eur.
New job is letting me buy any laptop.t480s for linux vs x1 Gen6. Can't decide. Any thoughts on the t480s?
>>68825232Ignore the first tard to reply. Max 1920x1080 IPS display with adapter board that’s plug and play (niggers will try and argue flicker; updated mod and no issues myself along with countless others) but will cost you about $130 said and done. Personally the only real issue I ever had was screen, so if you’re willing to shell out the extra money it’s worth it in my eyes. If I was you I’d entirely skip the T420 and just buy a T430, but you’ll need to buy a classic keyboard extra if that’s what you’re wanting.
>>68826033is there much quality difference between the 1600x900 displays on the 420 and 430?
>>68826107No, they’re both equally shit, but better than the 1366x768. If you buy a T420/T430 with the 1366x768 panel, you’ll have to get a cable too when you upgrade to the 1600x900 panel. Just a heads up.
>>68826134alright, i'll probably get one with a 1600x900 and see how long i can put up with the screen then. thanks for the info
>>68825886>New job is letting me buy any laptop.>t480s for linux vs x1 Gen6. Can't decide.Wtf? How did you manage to get a job, if you arent't capable to decide such questions of minor importance...?
>>68820256>thinkpads are known for its freetardation, corebootshit among loonix freetards>discordI hope you were baiting
>>68818462Do you guys ever worry that there's some hardware backdoor in your refurbished thinkpad?
True story time. >Been seeing the /tpg/ threads for a few years>For some reason, start craving one, fantasizing that I'm clicking away, programming some shit with it >Finally buy one, refurb T410 >Fucking amazing, boner.gif >All is well, until about two months of use>Building full-stack web applications, react, node, etc. >T410 randomly shuts off >wtf >Boot up, try again.>All is good for about a week or two >Starts randomly shutting off >Figure out it's overheating >Purchase an entire toolkit, thermal paste and get to work >Repasted 3 times in the hopes to fix >Got better, but didn't fix >Finally decide to repaste one last time >Praying all is well>It doesn't work >Massive autism rage ensues >Stab thinkpad with screwdriver, throw Thinkpad at wall, running towards it, stomping on it a few times>Smash it into the garbage can >Mfw my mom was in the next room >Now on T430, dreading the day this thing starts failing
>>68826474You sound like a faggot. Keep it up and you’ll go far.
>>68826419it's just impossible to get rid of botnets completely for 100%
Just bought a x230 brofeels good
>>68826419You mean something planted afterwards, not from the original hardware manufacturers? No. It would be a lot of effort for whoever is hiding the backdoor, and not a lot of obvious gain.If someone wanted a backdoor on my laptop (either mine specifically, or just any laptop) there are easier ways than running a whole laptop refurbishing business.
>>68826474Did the temperature sensors actually show it overheating?
A complete Linux newfag here. Is it okay to pick up Debian as my starter distro? I prefer to avoid distro-jumping and just eant a stable and supported os.
>>68827603Debian is good
>>68827603i use debian and i like it a lot, never had any issues
>>68820256#/tpg/ at irc.rizon.net
Looking to buy a new laptop and Thinkpad is at the top of my list. My biggest issue is my inability to find one with a decent graphics card. Not crazy into gaming but I wanna at least be able to play oblivion on medium settings. Link below is pretty much exactly what I’m looking for, but I want a better graphics card and intel turbo boost. Any ideas? Also where else besides Amazon and eBay can I find cheap think pads that aren’t broken?https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Bluetooth-Professional/dp/B01498VPYI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1544175817&sr=1-1
Where's a reliable place I can get replacement keycaps? The F key on my T431s comes undone at the slightest press of the left side.
>>68825886I have t480s and it's great, I think it's better than x1c6 because of superior i/o also comes with optional nvidia graphics if light gaming is your thing
The T420s is a decent model right? How much should i expect to pay for it? Found one for sale at ~95$. Looks like it's in very good condition. Cop or nah?
Is the build quality really that bad on the w540/1
The 'OEM' 9 cell I bought is 10WH under specs and manufactured by SANYO for Lenovo, wtf. Do I return it? I bought it for $40.
>>68826474faggot, work on your issues
>>68829796Yes, the keys can scratch the screen from what I've seen reading the archives and looking on ebay.
>>68827356Me too bro.>tfw you finally took the ThinkPill
Anyone else have issues with their x220 fan being loud as all Hell?I've replaced it once before about four years ago, but I bought my x220 in '11 so it's more than seven years old. Is this thing just getting old?
in awe the size of this lad absolute unit
>>68830967>W701dsWhere did you find it?
>>68829796I've been using one for 3 years now and the only "issue" is that the trackpoint can touch the screen if the lid is closed and you press on the lid. It leaves a small circular smudge.
>>68828733Get a W541 with the K2200M graphics.My W541 with a K1100M can play Skyrim fine.
hello friendswanting a refurb thinkpad for qubes can choose any really under $250 or so, i was thinking t450 or t440. is there any advantage to t430, t420? upgradeable cpus? i like 16gb ram
>>68831438>keyboard scratches screen
>>68831504i fully realize this is newb question but i have difficulty finding the data indexed in a way that i can review easily
>>68831535warosu.org/g/ archive, and then search keyboards to view certain /g/ posts. I'd recommend the t430 as I just got a x230 and all. I took it apart to replace the thermal paste so I have a decent feel for it, they're built well. Quite retard proof and easily fixable.
>>68831565thanks mate i'll have a look. i only know the t series from the qubes compatibility page but maybe there is value in looking at W or osmething as well
>>68822683>idle temps are actually closer to 40C to 35C
>>68831583W is heavy, I looked into it a bit. Some people had the keyboard scratch the w540 screen, this is shown in the archive and some ebay listings. w530 or w520 probably a good bet but i never owned one
also i expect it is not as cheap as finding somewhere else but newegg / arrow refurbs are on sale right now both price cut and promo code
>>68831583it seems like the most cost effective way to do this is to do the t440p and then buy a 4800MQ off ebay (burger) ssd and ram are easy enough to come by
Whats the best thinkpad for being a fucking retard
>>68831945the most expensive one you can find
>>68831945x230 easily>portability to transport your rerardation anywhere>strong max specs to be a retard faster
>>68831703>>68831620pulled the trigger $190 out the door probably will drop $40 for one of the procs thanks man
>>68830967>windows 7 sticker>not installing windows 7Herecy
>>68829767Depends where are you from. RAM, SSD, HDD, also there is two kinds of screen...
>>68826474Thinkpad thermals are fucked really.>Like fucking ovens up to 30 series>Super cool and nice 40 series> A bit worse 50 seriesFrom there, it has gone to shit. With the recent models being having case temperatures up to 50+ CIt's partly Intel's fault though
Thoughts on this t440s? I have a t420s right now and like it, but the specs aren't great. https://www.amazon.ca/Touchscreen-Business-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07F9Y7MJB/ref=pd_aw_sbs_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07F9Y7MJB&pd_rd_r=07e30941-fa74-11e8-b9cf-71dfd46c1872&pd_rd_w=eBihS&pd_rd_wg=icg4P&pf_rd_p=3fa2d334-7ab1-47df-a46b-3a607fd250e3&pf_rd_r=E55ZZF9XWP0YFB674A2J&psc=1&refRID=E55ZZF9XWP0YFB674A2J
>>68832607>https://www.amazon.ca/Touchscreen-Business-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07F9Y7MJB/ref=pd_aw_sbs_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07F9Y7MJB&pd_rd_r=07e30941-fa74-11e8-b9cf-71dfd46c1872&pd_rd_w=eBihS&pd_rd_wg=icg4P&pf_rd_p=3fa2d334-7ab1-47df-a46b-3a607fd250e3&pf_rd_r=E55ZZF9XWP0YFB674A2J&psc=1&refRID=E55ZZF9XWP0YFB674A2JIt's just missing the fhd ips screen. What's that weird ass i5 4308U? Never seen one before
how do i get all my function keys working properly with ubuntu/i3?
>>68832607expensive. i bought a t450s with i7/touchscreen for 300
>>68832607even in canadian monopoly money thats incredibly jewish pricing
Bought a used Latitude E7440 with the original msata SSD (256Gb) and it only has ~2400 hours of use on it. Do normies really not using their laptop that much?
>>68832804In Canada? Where?
>>68832804Also, how much better is the 450 over 440?
I gotta say bros, mousekeys on hjkl is more comfy than the trackpointit's amazing to literally not need to move my hands to solve captcha
>>68832431what did you buy?
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mitcham/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t570-15-6-2017-i5-7200u-256gb-ssd-fhd-ips-/1202670562Ausfag here. What amount is worth paying for this? Should I just wait until I'm in Canada next week and buy a used machine from there?
I bought an E580 for school. I know its not on the recommended here but I like it. The only thing bugging me is the 4GB RAM is driving me autistic. Would this be a total bitch to upgrade to 8GB or no?
>>68818462where's the mic hole on the x220
>>68834759nevermind, I found them.
>>68833900Seller claims he won't move on the price at all. I'm honestly still tempted to buy it but I can't ignore the fact that brand new (flimsier) devices with the same specs cost exactly the same.
Explain to my why you dumb shits aren't putting vinyl covers on your trackpads and palmrests
>>68835286gee, ur mom let you install gentoo 3 times?
>>68835817mine is fine on the x230, wtf are you talking about
>>68835286holy shit, I never realized how fucking massive the W700 is until I see it compared to the T61 or T400 there...
>>68836741They are large
Could any anon from South Africa help me out with an old laptop? These rolling blackouts make studying a bitch.
What is the best distro for the x200 tablet? I'm using it for school, and would like the touchscreen to work.
Why doesn't /g/ like the E series?Hardware-wise, the E585 seems like an okay deal.
>>68838503because e series is made by consumer division, may as well by an asus or some other crap at that point specs aren't everything
I'm having an issue where sometimes I open my T450s from sleep and nothing turns on. Like the green power button is still "breathing" but none of the buttons will wake it, the power button won't do anything, and closing and reopening the lid will not do anything either. The only thing I can do is hold the power button down until it shuts off and then I have to restart it.Can anyone help me with this issue?Wtf is causing this?
>>68838619So what thinkpad do I go for if I dont want an intel CPU?
>>68838690A285/A485 it's like amd equavilent of T series albeit a bit worse
is there any way to upgrade a t440p's nvidia gt730m? not a gaymer btw
noobie hereI need a laptop for general 'business' use i.e browser, office, chat apps etc.What's the least amount that I can spend while still feeling good?
Just bought T430 with destroyed hignes claimed as in perfect condition.I'm returning "perfect" T430 for a 4th time.Is T430 literally shit laptop or sellers in my country are just scammers?
>>68838678update bios , do a hard reset might be something on the MB
>>68839172Never had issues buying ThinkPads that weren’t as they were described. Sounds like you live in a shitty place.
>>68839172post a pic
>>68839394https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmt7RlmpZJISomething like this. I forgot to mention that it also has some ghosting on screen. Paid $200 for it. I'm getting new one instead of this next week from the same seller, they claim that next one won't have anny issues.I'm tired of it, it's been 2 months trying to buy T430 without issues. Btw. I'm living in Pooland.
Why isn't the X1 Carbon recommended? Is the quality not good at all (not just in comparison to, say, an X230)?
>>68839567because basically everything is soldered and has no upgrade paths
where buy x230 battery for good money?thanks
>>68839525200dollaridoos?thats cheap af
>>68840180if that's in Ameribux, 200 for a T430 is on the expensive side unless you're getting one with a dive and an OS installed on it (which you shouldn't)
Is anyone else having issues with x201's wireless drivers on Debian Stable?For some reason, mine stops working every now and then, meaning I have to reboot the OS as killing and restarting networkmanager doesn't work and the adapter is not recognized anymore.Should I get a separte Wifi USB?>inb4 use windows
>>68840180>>68840234considering our payments it's like paying $750 for people who earn in $$.
>>68840260>my pay is 850 euro :(
>>68818508x230 best pad
I just got a W530 but the CPU is 2.70GHz despite thinkwiki saying this model is 3.70GHz. Is this a red flag, or will it be able to return to stock without issue? Also holy shit I don't know why the conversation is about chicklet vs old keyboard when I immediately notice that the print screen key is at the bottom, and the F keys have no space between them to cluster them into fours. I just opened Hydrus (image-tagging program) and realized I couldn't easily find F3 to tag without the thinklight. Then I hated the keyboard.
>>688407693.7Ghz is the boost clock speed
>>68840795Cheers anon. Also I can use your post as an excuse to say the keyboard has many other flaws. No easy easy way to find the home/end key. The logistics behind this sucks man.
Pretty stupid question, so I bought a T430 and the listing clearly said 1366x768 HD screen, but when it arrived, it's set to 1600x900. Honestly, it looks good, but I'd like to know if it's actually an HD+ panel. Would I be able to find out if I disassemble the panel? Thanks.
I got a fucking T420, I put an SSD in it, I'm currently planning on getting a second stick of RAM, and perhaps even replacing the CD tray with a HDD. It's currently running Manjaro because I was told that was linux on easy mode but I can easily change it to something else. What do I do now? How else can I turn it into the ultimate /tpg/ approved machine?
>>68839525sorry bro, i got a nearly perfect x230 for $70. auction from a recycling center, a business must have recycled it.
>>68840252Just flash the BIOS to remove the whitelist and swap whatever card you want in there. You could check the hardware switch too.>>68840860The seller probably just got lazy and assumed it was the smaller res because that's what most of them are. If you can't tell the difference between native res and something that's been downsampled there's something wrong with your eyes. Or the screen is just that bad.
>>68840090I bought one on ebay from a seller in ponarma california or some shit and it was 10Wh less than advertised but that was all... it was $40
If I get a t440s is it going to have the shitty screen like the t430? Will I have to upgrade it?
This isn't exactly tpg-related but my Thinkpad has a weird (thin) bar of smudges underneath the screen, like it was all caused in a single event. The battery can also only hold 17% of its charge.I'm not sure if the battery part was on purpose, since the HDD the thing came with had W10 and didn't show a red "x' or anything over the tray icon, but swapping HDDs shows it on my W7 HDD. Lenovo battery manager further clarifies its condition is "fair", holding 17% charge.Neither the bar of smuges nor 17% of its full charge capacity battery were mentioned in the listing. It was purchased from ebay and I'm not sure what to do here. Does anyone have any experience with stuff like this to spoonfeed me I guess? Thanks if you will.
What's the three button click-pad upgrade for thinkpad like? Are the trackpad buttons 'clicky' like a mouse or are they soft and mushy like a keyboard button?
Is a FHD IPS T440p + dock for $200 alright?I'm selling btw not buying, this thing has gathered more dust than my raspberry pi
>>68842520cum on it to fix it
>>68842676Well thanks for acknowledging me, but I'm thinking about messaging the seller. I have zero context for what to expect, though. Again, I'm not sure W10 shows red flags for batteries, since I didn't immediately notice any on the tray when booting from the HDD it came with. Otherwise I don't understand how the seller never saw the horizontal bar of smudges under the screen in regular usage, so I'm thinking I'll just leave a 4-star review mentioning these two things (and the seller's failure to mention them) and eat the poor quality battery. I don't know if ebay mediating this is possible.My main thing is I'm a bit too lazy to swap the hard drives again just to check if W10 really doesn't show red flags for the battery... I recorded myself opening the package but it didn't focus at all.
>>68842734responding to myself but in my shitty 720- tablet-recorde 20-minute one-handed opening the package video, I can spot that the W10 battery icon doesn't show a red "x" over the battery- it appears normal. Maybe clicking shows the battery health, but I think it's realistic the seller was a layman who would never consider doing that. I don't know why W10 would just flat not tell you through the tray icon when a battery is poor, when W7 would for the exact same battery. I'll probably message the seller just to do so, then leave a 4-star review from the info being withheld.
>>68842734the seller came on it, it's a known issue, the only way to resolve it is to cum on it yourself so it cancels out.
>>68842734>>68842823>4 stars for a defective productOn what scale? That seems like too many stars.
a friend of mine got a used X270 with a secon battery for €840. did he overpay? if so, why? he's a normie.
>>68842994>a used X270 for €840
>>68842971I was thinking it's a W530 (I'm the dude from an hour ago who asked about the CPU), and it has everything I wanted otherwise... which is hindsight is really only 1080p screen, webcam, and to be fully functioning.I just thought it'd be rude to rate it lower than 4 when the OS the seller shipped the laptop with didn't tell you visually, unprovoked, that your battery is shit. But the horizontal bar of smudges under the screen, I feel the seller dishonestly didn't mention them. You'd rate it <4 for those two things? That's pretty rough. The point isn't even the rating- it's receiving compensation for the dishonest listing, which I'm not sure is possible on ebay.
>>68843041being this cucked
>>68818462I finally bought a x220 tablet for my mom, for $110. It's in grade A condition and all that's missing is the hard drive and caddy. I already have a spare ssd and the caddy was about $5. Was this a good buy?Pic unrelated, it's my x200
>>68839644But is it still a decent computer?
How are you /g/entlemen. Filthy crossboarder here looking at Thinkpads to replace my old falling-apart HP Pavilion. From everything I've read, the T420 and T430 are the go-to basic bitch computers to pop your Thinkpad cherry; dimensions and screenwise they're both a little bit smaller than my current computer but specs-wise both are generally better. Only part that worries me a bit is the whole onboard graphics versus discrete graphics thing that I have to do some more reading on.Aside from that, I don't want to go to a smaller X line because I need the optical drive. I'd be tempted to go a size up to a 5-series even but my current laptop is almost directly between the T4XX and T5XX measurements so it can go either way. Are the improved specs of the T430 worth it over the T420 (namely the HD3000 vs HD2000) in return for the worse keyboard, and what would be the go-to equivalent in the T5XX line? I know you can swap in the older keyboard style but I also read you get stuff like a caps lock LED that will never function and that would drive my autism up the wall. I'll probably work on the 1080p screen mod at some point and will look for the 1600x900 to start with as the 1280x would be even tinier than the screen I'm using. SSD and RAM upgrades will be a definite and ordered at the same time as the laptop. Not planning on doing any major gaming or anything (pre-2007 stuff only, really), just dualbooting Windows and whatever Linux distro I feel like messing with that week, web browsing, light programming, and acting as a grab-and-go fix-it system for when my friends fuck up their computers. Basically a project laptop to keep myself sane over the winter.What can I expect in the way of battery life, especially if I manage to find an OEM 9 cell battery? Any especially weird kinks or flaws not commonly read about online? Should I start looking at the T5XX instead? Am I just being a sperg about the keyboard? I hate typing on chicklet keys.Sorry for all the questions.
>>68843432>crossboarderdon't lie, you reek of reddit
>>68843442I'm an /o/tist who tinkers with computers when it's too cold outside to work on my shitbox.
>>68843432I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free componentof a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shellutilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNUwhich is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users arenot aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just apart of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the systemthat allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux isnormally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole systemis basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>68838914A T420 or T430 would be good. They can usually be had for under $150.
>>68843092It's better than most other computers but not most thinkpads.
>>68843466Dammit /g/, there aren't enough free characters in that post to replace Linux with GNU/Linux.
>>68843510I got my T430 for $150. Same with my previous thinkpad, a T410. However, the T430 smells like a fucking heater for warming a house near the fan.
>>68843534remove the apology
>>68843083Pretty good price. How do you like the Tada68?
>>68843549But then I'll come off as rude.
>>68843542>the T430 smells like a fucking heater for warming a house near the fan.and? do you buy computers to smell their exhaust ports?
>>68843569>he dosen't smell his laptop exhaustAre you some kind of fucking faggot?
>>68843432I can't help you but about the keyboard thing, here're my immediate complaints about the **30 keyboard, that the **20 keyboard solved:-no distinction between F keys (it's just a fucking bar of keys, including home/end)-brightness controls are in some bumass location amongst the F keys (in contrast to being actually above and below one another on the **20 keyboard)-print screen button between right ctrl and right alt-W500 caps lock drivers shows green or red depending, whereas **30 drivers just show a white drawing with a white line through it if caps is off (so no hitting caps twice and using peripheral vision to tell what state caps is in [not that Linux supports any of these drivers probably])-holy shit they moved the function+pause shortcuts from the arrow keys to the useless row of F keys-fucking chicklet keysBut you should probably bind the caps lock key to something else, thus rendering the non-functional light toggle irrelevant to you, if that's your only gripe with swapping the keyboard.
>>68843041>You'd rate it <4 for those two things?Well, I'd contact the seller first, and probably rate it between 2 and 4 stars depending on how good his excuses were. Like, if he actually has some plausible-sounding reason for why he didn't know about damage to the screen and shit battery life, and he offers a reasonable return policy, then 4 is fine, but if he was just misrepresenting the product so he could ask for more money, he doesn't deserve good ratings.
Will there be any noticeable difference between a w541 with a k1100m and a k2100m?
>>68843745Hey thanks for the serious reply anon, I was feeling a bit hopeless about people randomly shitposting about cum cause of the screen smudges underneath the screen.Yeah that's about all you can do I guess... I wasn't sure of ebay mediation is really possible. I'll contact the seller right now, just to do it as soon as possible.
>>68843756K2100M is about twice as powerful
>>68843083I'm not sure, but I got a x230t grade B with stickers from manufacturers, with no caddy or HDD for 80. No charger, but I already had an x131e for it.
>>68843710>if that's your only gripe with swapping the keyboard.Nah, that's just the corn on the shit sundae so to say. I had a feeling the XX30 keyboards were even worse than the images made them look; my current keyboard is a shitty chicklet type where nearly every single key is the exact same 5/8" by 5/8" square flat piece of shit, but at least the PrtScr key is in the upper right where it should be and it still has a Pause/Brk key. Thank you for letting me know just how bad it really is.>do some more searching>"The new silkscreening on new model ThinkPads do not list four keyboard shortcut functions (Break, SysRq, ScrLK, Pause). The embedded keypad functionality has been removed from the T430, T430s and T530 systems."Well, that just sold me on the XX20 keyboard no matter what system I buy. Does the fn+ctrl numberpad of the 20 work when you retrofit it into the 30 and reflash the BIOS? If so that seems like a good enough reason to go for the T430/530 and retrofit the non-shit keyboard in. Now just to decide between the T4 and T5 and all the fun research that comes with those.
>>68843550Keycaps feel like a woman's thighs, gateron brown switches satisfyingly feel like crunching a potato chip under a napkin. Mapping the keys is great. Aluminum backplate is worth it. I like it.>>68843913Price makes sense
what's the best place to shop for refurbs?
looking for a model for uni. may focus on CS. preferably will run PS1-era vidya occasionally, Foobar2000, basic stuff. considering this cheap X220...
>>68844870I'd buy it
X230 with an i5, 8gb ram, 120gb ssd for 150 yurobucks.Yes or no?
I've been looking for an X220 to buy and was just scrolling through some YouTube search results to get some info, when I found her...The absolute queen of /g/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qotqbNSB6Bw
>>68845381yeah,so? everyone knows who she is, dumbfuck
>>68845418I'm not sure "dumb" is the word you would use for someone who doesn't know about some random thot ThinkPad reviewer on the internet, Anon.
Does the integrated Wacom digitizer work on the X200 tablet after flashing libreboot on it?
>>68844870Where I live setup like this would cost over $400
>>68842994Ehh you can get a new x280 with 3y warranty at 1000€ so 840 is pretty much a scam
>>68843764the guy calling you a cuck isnt shitposting, you're a cuck>screen is fucked>battery is approaching death>neither mentioned in ad>spends 2h in /tpg/ deliberating over whether to contact the seller about these issuesthe cherry:>I guess I'll give him 4 out of 5 starswew
Just bought an x220, can someone please recommend me a case for it?
>>68843034>>68845993thought so, thx anons.
I own a thinkpad P51 how easy is it to get an eGPU on this bad boy so I can play games when I'm home?
>>68822956Why are there different kinds of seats in your uni classes?
>>68842627really, no one?
>>68846193Kek. This is truly a new level of beta shit
>>68846193>>68846474I ended up messaging the seller but it's a pretty lame reply full of ellipses and everyone would bully me for it, but again I don't know what mediation is possible.
So, I just got a killer deal on a refurbished L430 though my spouse's work. I know it will run Linux fine, but what obscure oses work with the one? Any chance of 9front? OpenBSD
The XX30 keyboard is seriously terrible. Is there any way to escape this besides swapping out the entire keyboard? I just need some bumps on the keys to know when I'm feeling F4, F8, F12, home, end, some other keys maybe...
>>68846304Just find a neat bag from a garage sale. It's what I did and it's pretty neat. Mine is a small canvas olive drab milsurp knockoff backpack that I made into a shoulder bag.>>68846482Not only that but the seller is going to bully you for it. You spineless retarded cuck. You should've just requested a refund.
>>68846482>I don't know what mediation is possible>guys what do I dopi seconds in a browsereGoy would fall apart if it was a jewish festival of hand-wringing and schemingjust do all contact with the seller in text so you can turn it over to eBy if he flakesyou'll get your money back at the very leastdefinitely dont give the fucker a high-star-but-not-perfect review to "send a message" kek
T440 dock costs over $30 while T430's like $2What the hell
>>68846482>I ended up messaging the seller but it's a pretty lame reply full of ellipsesWhy would you do this? Are you a 15 year old girl that types the pauses in her valley girl accented thoughts when she's stressed?>Um... so this laptop you sold me... I don't know if you noticed... this screen is like, smudged or something..
>>68846716The T420/T430 dock is pretty much a glorified hub while the *40 one has firmware updates and other shit, even power manager prompts you that the dock can't work properly because it needs to be connected to the AC adapter.
where to buy stickers
did I do good /g/? Got it today. i5, 8gbram, 128GB SSD and to be honest this screen is amazing.
what are the core differences in features between X240, X250?Besides the obvious, that is age and benchmarks.Ports, ips screens, soldered ram, replaceable batteries and such?
Do ultrabay batteries work with libreboot?
Any T4x series owners here? I recently purchased a T41, as well as a T42 for next to nothing. After buying them, I realized they have the infamous Radeon mobility 7500 GPU with the lead free solder. Are these essentially ticking time bombs? I've read about the iBook G3's that had this same GPU, and they had inevitable GPU failure at some point in their lifetime. Should I just put them up on ebay, rather than keep them?
>>68847819yeah I'm not really too sure what you can do with something that old these days
>>68847574Not much. x40 and x50 series are pretty much the same. About 5% performance difference. Dunno about the ports
>>68847574T440p is the last generation 14" with replaceable batteries and socketed CPU, xx50 series doesn't have something comparable. Other than that, the same. Near exact cost too, when you consider the added cost of the xx50 trackpad swap into xx40 series.
>>68847983The batteries are still replaceable on models newer than the T440p.
>>68847965Idk I'm typing this on a Dell Latitude D800. Works just fine.
>>68848001we still have like 100 posts left dude
>>68847965The D800 has a Pentium M, same as the T42, and T41. Perfectly usable as far as I'm concerned.
someone link me to a good X200 AFFS screen (CCFL) and X220 IPS screen PLEASEwill be very thanful
Spilled tea on my t420, how do I fix it?
I need a new laptop for general business usage (office, browser etc.). What's the least I can spend that will still feel good. No second-hand because corporation is paying for it.
>>68848129>What's the least I can spend>corporation is paying for itwhy do you care about the price then
>>68826419I don't do anything anybody capable of that would be interested in.
>>68847983>>68847574>>68847992>>68847969Oh right it seems the two have identical replaceable batteries.What about the RAM though, do they both have a single slot as I get from the thinkwiki or does any of them have a soldered module too? (I vaguely remember there were some thinkpads like that, or was it the T440 or something.)And how physically solid are they, compared to older X2xx?
I picked up a Z61t in near perfect condition for $5. Did I do good?
What are some trustworthy places to buy inexpensive batteries?
>>68818462Thots on p1
>>68832561>Like fucking ovens up to 30 seriesSpeak for yourself, my W520 runs cool as a cucumber
just got babby's first thinkpad. Is ~60C a normal temp for the cpu of an X230 during normal use? It seems high. What can I do about it?
>>68850442I repasted mine which was a pain. the black panel that pops off under the keyboard I broke one of the plastic hinges on it. I think you should remove the screen first before popping it off? Definitely remove the screen though when taking it apart, it's two screws. Just undo those two screws when you get the keyboard and palmrest off. My temps start at about 35c when I turn it on and idle from 38-45C. Full load is about 60C when I start it but i never ran it very long.
>>68851040oh but disconnect the screen cables first before removing the screen, duh. x230 is pretty retard proof, don't worry too much but be careful.
>>68820243>Just replaced the single-pipe heatsink in my T420 with a double-pipe one. I don't know why it's such a big difference, I didn't realize that the single pipe was as wide as the two pipes together, but it does.Surface area, you goddamn retarded piece of subhuman trash.
will one of these "mini displayport / thunderbolt 2 docks work with a t430?
>>68845306I could get two X230s and keyboards for them for that price on ebay
>>68843083ebay seller pls?someone else?trying to buy my first x230
>>68820339t530.Bigger screen=> ease of programmingLarger surface=> lesser heat, better cpu performance and lifededicated Graphics card=> play games that hd 4000 will notonly cons are the battery life and the weight(which should be manageable if you are not a manlet).overall, it's a good long term investment
>>68853875not in europe >:(
>>68847476Shit keyboard. Shit clit buttons.Idiot.
>>68833900>yogait's shite mate.
256 gb lite-on msata for 47$. Is that a good price?It's manufactured in april 2017 so I don't think the wear level is high
>>68847476You have e621 open in another tab.
>>68856316Great job figuring that out by just the favicon.>>68856121Not really. I found one supposedly new in box for a little more.https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F323587648536
>>68856489Holy fuck that's a terrible paint job.
>>688538752 of them without chargers, hard drives, or hard drive bays
>>>68856605Is the new thread.
>>68856628That OP is a retard who started a new thread 100 posts too soon.
>>68856489god damn it rebbit
>>68818939Any one that isn't the 2nd generation.
>>68856489why not just a fucking vinyl wrap?????
>>68856489This is a war crime
>>68859721The war that Lenovo waged when they released the xx40 thinkpads
>>68859769IBM started it when they sold the brand. It's been a war of attrition against their own users.
>some retard makes a new thread a whole day early>it gets 150 posts before this thread hits 300I hate the retards that use this website, myself included
If I wanted a light, smol, /comfy/ laptop for light gayming like Doom or Warcraft 3, which one should I get?
>>68860980X220 or X230 with X220 keyboard
>>68842666>>68844870You may be able to milk the price for 1080p, then adjust lower until it gets sold
>>68861438The chiclet keyboard isn't that bad
>>68862636Why settle for bad?
>>68818939I got the latest on as a gray import. No tax on it so I shaved of a considerable amount from the price. I love it.
>>68818508You know that anon killed himself right?
>>68860013What's with this? Been happening on /csg/ and we got a brief spurt of this autism in /hpg/ too.
>>68821318You could search for an adapter on AliExpress or something.
>>68865625>gray importplease tell me more
My x230 was just sitting for like 2 months without any use, turned off But now the battery life is complete shit. This isn't normal right?
>>68865625>>68856489>>68847476>>68843083>>68835286>>68830996>>68829767>>68865625how do you lunatics survive without a numpad
>>68868422>he can't type the number row without lookingoof
>>68868422I am a lefty so the numpad has been useless for me since I began using computers.
>>68869288Are you serious? You type with both hands, right? You've had years (I assume) to learn to use the numpad with your right hand. I'm a righty and I'd honestly prefer to have it on the left
>>68869385Well yes, I do type with my both hands and I feel like typing numbers with eight fingers instead of only three, which is what most people using the numpad do.
>>68870706Don't be retarded, you know exactly what I meant.. If you can type with your right then you should be able to use a fucking numpad with it.
>>68868376batteries cells are used up since you werent charging it. you fucked up