What is going on with this literal epidemic of basedboys?Every day I see dudes that could be caricatures of the most hamfisted /pol/ meme. They're either small, weak and skinny like pic related or they're just big, soft balls of estrogen. None of these dudes would even make it three days if police suddenly stopped being ever present.Could lifting remedy this, or is it just the general course of society and humanity?
IIRC that "guy" is a FTM trans or some shit
>>50805805It's okay, more women for us.
>>50805805We need to start bullying again
That's not a sexy look.
>>50805805THERES CHEMICALS IN THE WARER AND FOOD HELP
>>50805881>It's okay, more women for us.Exactly. Don't complain about the basedboys (Even though the OP pic is a tranny); rather, take this as an opportunity to make yourself stand out by working towards being fit and successful. This is natural selection at work.
>>50805805Lifting probably could remedy this.You have an entire swath of society that never needs to do more than move from their car to store or press a video game button. Meanwhile liberal ideology has demonized the entire concept of masculinity.
>>50805881This, let them be lads
>>50806160the gym is already full enough
>>50805885What? aren't you bullying atm? Bullying is my full time job, why aren't you doing it?
>>50805805It's a dysgenics program being carried out via welfare statism, single motherhood, government education, media and neurochemical warfare.These bugmen are the first generation of domesticated humans.
>>508058051. There's a general trend of sedentary lifestyles. 2. They have an ideology that has absorbed feminism, and they reject masculinity itself. They have major league self-loathing issues and they are desperately trying to be "Correct". Be thankful you're not one of them, since it's endless mental anguish for males. 3. Many are outright vegans or vegetarians, which means significantly decreased protein intake. 4. They literally do not understand why you would ever want to become big and strong or why it would be valuable. These groups are ideological and education focused. ie it's all ideas and talking. I've been to some groups like this. I find them extremely limited. They might have high minded values for what society should be like, but the people themselves are a mess. Alcoholism is rampant. Poor diets, lack of exercize, etc are rampant. The conclusion I've come to is that mind/body are of equal value and it is incomplete to focus on just one. There's nothing deeper than these things. There's no conspiracy. I think we can create a new masculinity and show off the benefits of exercize.
>>50805881pretty much this who gives a fuck what they do .it just makes it easier for us
>>50806160>Meanwhile liberal ideology has demonized the entire concept of masculinity.Masculinity got needlessly associated with bullying, being stupid, oppressive, and mindlessly aggressive. We can build a new masculinity. One based on virtue and reason. Strength for the benefit of yourself, and society. Become the best person you can be.
>>50805885I've been bullying since I could speak, faggot
The problem is that people are eating incorrect diets.
>>50806886Make a little bitty triangle for cheap bourbon whiskey and natural lite at the tip top and this is spot on.
What mode is this?
>>50807017Goofy boomer white guy mode
>>50807188But how is it possible to have such a fat face compared to the arms? Is it just the low test + obese version of a basedboy?
>>50806391This. Well said.
>>50805850desu if they didn't fall for the vegan meme, lifted and maybe got a chin implant they'd look at least decent. cuntbois can actually do pretty well if they fucking try at all. T is easy mode
>>50805881Unironically this why care it's not like their screaming of various shit actually accomplishes anything besides making them unfuckable to any women worth value.
>>50805805Dont blame these men, blame the system that is forced in the western society upon people. These guys are the product of the ideologies that force equality on everyone and punish the ones that try to be any different. Look at him because he is weak, both physically and mentally as well, he has given up his right to eat right because animals have feelings and can’t say what he thinks because he doesnt want to be labelled a nazi, a micro aggressor or a patriarch. He is everything you dont want to be. Learn from him and move on, he doesn’t pose a threat anyways
>>50807237still looks hopeless
>>50807237There's no saving it
>>50807237This creature is nothing a Benelli M4 12 gauge with incendiary rounds couldn't handle.
>>50807017Washed up gay beta male basedboy with a penchant for young males and Yahtzee mode
>>50806513You wouldn't build a new masculinity so much as redeem our existing concept
>>50806513Once upon a time a man once said that women will inherit the world that men had created. The time is coming and there is nothing you, me, or anyone can do. Being a strong virtuous male will only get the few of us so far. Extinction is our final destination.
>>50805805>tfw good friend is a qt tomboy lebso>recently decides she's trans>eventually will go on TRT>talks about how she wants to start lifting with me when that happens so she can take advantage of the exogenous test and be muscular and fitHonestly, regardless of how I feel about trans shit I would rather support my friend and help her lift and be confident than watch her turn into that skinny, ghoulish abomination in OP's pic, and then probably kill herself like most trannies.
>>50807017Alternate future Notch who didn't finish Mincraft
>>50805881>missing the point
>>50808669She's getting her ideas on sexuality from tumblr. It's all fads. Also once on test, they will feel VERY confident, which they interpret as them being the "right" gender. You can talk like most of these people out of this. Actual trans people are like a tiny sliver, and most of the people going trans now are just homosexuals.
>>50805805Epoxy resins containing BPA are used to line water pipes, as coatings on the inside of many food and beverage cans and in making thermal paper such as that used in sales receipts. In 2015, an estimated 4 million tonnes of BPA chemical were produced for manufacturing polycarbonate plastic, making it one of the highest volume of chemicals produced worldwide.BPA is a xenoestrogen, exhibiting estrogen-mimicking, hormone-like properties that raise concern about its suitability in some consumer products and food containers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_AXenoestrogens are a type of xenohormone that imitates estrogen.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XenoestrogenEstrogen, or oestrogen, is the primary female sex hormone. It is responsible for the development and regulation of the female reproductive system and secondary sex characteristics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EstrogenLong term excessive intake of alcohol can lead to damage to the central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system resulting in loss of sexual desire and impotence in men. This is caused by reduction of testosterone from ethanol-induced testicular atrophy, resulting in increased feminisation of maleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_alcohol_consumption#Sexual_dysfunction
>>50808669her uterus will painfully atrophy and eventually cause her lots of pain.
>>50808908there's no such thing as "actual trans people." there's no evidence that this is a neurological intersex disorder. it's a mentally ill form of coping and/or a fetish.
>>50808951there's no difference
I blame exposure to nintendo games in their late teens-early twenties.
>>50806359>bugmenAhh, I see you have read Bronze Age Mindset.*tips*
>>50808669>letting your friend continue to be brainwashed and slowly kill herself
>>50806886>Implying every food pyramid isn't somehow altered by dairy/meat/nut/grain lobbyists>Implying yours isn't the work of a meat lobbyist
>>50808669Talk them out of it. It's just dumb people jumping on a fad/bandwagon and falling for dumb memes.
>>50805881Sadly this. I'm 183cm and 85kg and the gap between me and the general population where I live is staggering. Literally no competition on that front
>>50806391This was actually a good post. Thanks for your contribution
>>50808583God, if you're going to keep writing your shit and thinking you're smart, extinction can't come soon enough
>>50808583I disagree with that. An ex gf of mine (a staunch feminist) was absolutely attracted to me and not for purely physical reasons. Even though she viciously rejected my ideology (I hate feminism, but I'm not a MGTOW kind of person) she just couldn't help being in love with me. Men need women who are women and women need men who are men. In general, we need both the masculine and the feminine and the idea that a state in which either one (or both) is suppressed can last is ridiculous in my opinion
>>50809172A sane and rational post? Sure you must be trolling
>>50809172it's not even a bad thing to not agree about everything with your gf/bf. it's OK to have different opinions. it's gotten to the point where people expect their friends, families, gf/bf to agree with everyone they believe or they're shitty people who need to be ditched.
>>50808951Yes, tranny is a mental illness. We're all in agreement. The problem is that instead of actually treating the illness they're told their delusional perception is accurate and they're put on HRH qhich fucks them for life.
>>50809222It's obviously more complicated than that, but I didn't feel like delving into the details of my past relationships; I wasn't implying she was being "hypocritical" for dating me and I agree with you, having somebody close to you with a significantly different set of values is really helpful
>>50807017Loud mouthed idiot mode probably
>>50809244It does seem odd.>If I go to a doc saying I feel my body should look like prime zyzz he wouldn't give me test, if I was obsessed w it he'd probably send me to a psych ward for body dysmorphia>If I went saying I thought I should be 6'4" instead of 5'11" manlet king I'd get the same treatment not an operation>But why do they get drugs and sugery paid for by insurance?
>>50809244it's terrifying that this trans movement showed up so fast and doctors are actually allowing their madness to spiral. these meds hurt them. how can anyone have faith in healthcare when this insanity is being accepted and encouraged?
>>50809306Your doctor would be right considering Zyzz was shoothing 3g a week to look decent for a natty
>>50809322How is that any worst than wanting to permanently fuck your hormones, cut your dick off and live with a festering wound?
>>50805805I wouldn't mess with this tattoed guy
>>50808583Once upon a time a man once said that 640K [RAM] ought to be enough for anybody. The time is coming and there is nothing you, me, or anyone can do. Using lightweight programs will only get the few of us so far. Lag is our final destination.
>>50809359I don't think you get the ironic intent of my post (ie: the idea that your doctor wouldn't prescribe you with AAS because your goal body is unworthy). Sadly, there doesn't seem to be a pill for that :/
>>50806391There are more based boys who are into paleo than there are into veganism, at least in my experience. When I was a vegan I met a ton of crazy motherfuckers, loads of extremely weak and shy dudes too, but no actual le reddit onion boys. All those guys I know are into paleo and shit.
>>50809322I guess I'm going off topic here, but went to the gym in my hometown and this guy looked way fuckin bigger than zyzz though less cut. Like a higher bodyfat masT Is that doable Natty?I wish I were there longer, dude offered to train me the next day and I got the vibe he saw a younger retardeder him who he could help. Woulda gone but the only thing more important than gains is being with my mom on mother's day.
A society than punishes and pathologizes boys for being boys, and raises them on the insistence that they should be more like girls. There's already a book about it.
>>50809421Would need to see the dude to know but the fact is Zyzz (in his most iconic pics) looks like shit considering the amount of stuff he was injecting. He seriously didn't know how to train and eat so, yes, the classic Zyzz body is nothing crazy and doable natty. Hell, my gym buddy (whom I'm 100% sure is natty) looks better than he did
>>50808583What a fucking moron, you actually think you're intelligent don't you?
>>50805805>>50805850Transitioning for that. She could've had it easy.
Some people are just okay with looking like that I guess- I mean I'm not complaining, more chicks for the rest of us
Water, modern society, and food in that order.
>>50807443shit I have to take prednisone quite often
>>50809318Private doctors only care about getting paid.I know a tranny and his NHS GP kept refusing his requests to go on HRT and to go to a psychologist instead. So, he had a tantrum, went private and got his titty pills pretty much straight away.
>>50806513> One based on virtue and reason. Strength for the benefit of yourself, and society. Become the best person you can be.Too late, people are already attributing that to white nationalism.
we're wealthy now. We don't need to develop a killer instinct. Modern life not only doesn't require, but actively encourages placidity more than ever. In school they legit teach kids that the quiter and more subservient they are, the better, and that aggression is utterly wrong.
>>50806672Based and bullypilled
>>50808455Holy heck bro your badass bro are you sure you won't get grounded if you use daddy's guns
>>50808583Stop being so defeatist
>>50810002what a waste
>>50810002would skullfuck in an instant. those lips are luscious ngl. what a fucking waste man.
liberalism becoming mainstream and hipthere's your answer
>>50808669every time i see shirtless men or the shape of their biceps or forearms, just the musculature in general, i want to be male it is very frustrating
>>50808925most ftms will eventually have a hysterectomy (removal of the uterus, ovaries, etc.) to prevent it from interfering hormonally and make it so they do not have to deal with periods, as menstruating is a "painful reminder" of being female, even if they do not get a fake dick/remove their vagina
>>50808669tell her to keep a little bit of her uterus so you can fuck him to relieve her pain
>>50810715Based japan wouldn't let a tranny change sex on his passport unless he got his dick and balls chopped.
>>50810823But that’ll just motivate them to chop their balls off even more. Sex reassignment surgery is a sexual death sentence for MtFs and should not be encouraged directly or indirectly
>>50806128>mfw alex jones was right about the whole thing
>>50810697That's OK, your brain is just a little broken. You're confusing attraction with aspiration. Like those dweebs who become traps after watching too much anime.
>>50810859>Sex reassignment surgery is a sexual death sentence for MtFs>should not be encouragedIf it results in dead trannies we should make it more available than abortion
>>50807230sedentary + zero exercise + shit diet
>>50810886>being edgy AND illiterateImagine my shock
>>50806128this but unironically. The amounts of drugs that are not being cleaned out of the water supply after being flushed from the body keeps increasing and tons of plastic use are effecting humans in ways nobody could have predicted.
>>50808477oddly specific yet totally correct
>>50810715Too bad doing that creates memory loss.academic DOT oup DOT com /endo/article-abstract/160/1/1/5154748These FTMs are utterly destroying their bodies and minds.
>>50808908>>50809037>>50809070>just talk her out of it bro lmaoI mean, I agree that the best case scenario is she snaps out of this bullshit and realizes she's just depressed or has an anxiety disorder, which is what I suspect, but I don't see any way I can even attempt to talk her out of it without her and her enabling wife cutting me out as a friend entirely. They're two if my best friends who have been with me for seven years through thick and thin, so I have no choice but to just be supportive if I want to keep them.
>>50811061>endo/article-abstract>/160/1/1/5154748firstly, that's a fucking rat studywe are not ratsthat can give us ideas but does not prove anythingand you word it as "doing x does y" so definitely instead of "there has been some research that there is possibly a risk of memory loss associated with hysterectomies"fucking cretin fucking fearmongering sheepyou have no ability for logic and reasononly bitterness and dramatic retardation that draws attention to you
WE MUST CRIMINALIZE CIRCUMCISION!!
>>50811082Her uterus will atrophy. There will be excruciating pain when she orgasms. Then if she pursues a hysterectomy not only will things in her pelvis possibly shift around/start to prolapse, she will likely experience memory troubles. There is a link between memory issues and uterus removal for some reason.Personally, I'd either try to prevent a close friend of mine from pursuing further mental illness and bodily disorder. Failing that, I can't see myself continuing to be friends with an outright insane person. You could be the one voice of reason considering the medical community has decided to not prevent mentally ill people from hurting themselves.
>>50805805You should be lamenting their disturbed hormonal systems. All men in 1st world countries are victims of industrial poisoning.
>>50811088We'll see in 15 years. There's never been such a wave of medical experimentation like this before, such drastic fiddling with hormones.We don't know what will happen to trans people long term because no one yet has long term health data on the consequences of transitioning. They're guinea pigs for big pharma.
>>50808908As a teenager I pretended to be a guy online and was very tomboyish in real life. My behavior towards other girls also lead people to believe I was a lesbian (I was very protective and dominant towards them, carried them around, etc.), but I lacked any sexual inclinations towards them. But I also lacked sexual inclinations towards men/anyone so I was not really "straight" either. Just nothing. Teenage me then wanted to be male. Then a short while after the trans stuff became a fad, but I did not want to go through with the actual transition stuff, I just wanted to be male. I still do. I still feel bad when I see nude male bodies or look at my own. I still feel somewhat repulsed at the role my genitals serve in sex. I do not know where this leaves me though. Am I "trans"? I don't want to deal with that. I have tried very hard to feminize myself and go through the rational behind rejecting my body, behind knowing it is mine, accepting it, behind the reasons I may hate being female, behind traumas, behind morality of going through with it, if its lying/deceptive, if it's just vanity/wanting people to respect me as "better" because females are "lesser", etc. I feel like I've done a "good job" with some sort of framework for understanding/accepting and rejecting the trans ideology. But the innate repulsion to the role of my genitals in sex, the sort of sad longing when I see male bodies, the upsetness at how small/weak I am, and the dislike of my own feminine body still pops up a lot. I don't know what this means.
>>50811208It means being female can suck ass, at least physically/biologically, not even mentioning the shit you pick up as a kid through implications. We live in a hyper pornified culture which doesn't help. I've heard plenty of TERFs mentioning the same feelings as you. Also possibly trauma, mental illness, etc.
>>50810881I genuinely don't like having a female body though. Like just imagine being small and weak and pathetic and knowing half of your peers are vastly superior to you. Then being told you should feel attracted to them and want to fuck them with your disgusting inferior body. Thanks, My Lord, for gracing my sinful frail flesh with your superior sex organ.
>>50811255Some TERF stuff resonates with me. I've looked into it. I don't know if it's learned, innate, or something biological though. I do legitimately just naturally have higher test levels and I'm guessing that contributed to my tomboyish nature, but I don't know if that means there's some bodily abnormality or low key intersex bullshit making me "legitimately trans" -- whatever that means. I do know I would like my body much better if it were male though.
>>50805805>>50807290>if they didn't fall for the vegan memeI don't know about this. I'm mid 30s and vegan for almost 12 years now. 191cm / 75kg I'm doing fairly okay I guess. This has nothing to do with that.I think the real problem is that you're all retarded, insecure children who feel the need to form some kind of pseudo hyper masculine unity on a Chinese beastiality board. I know you won't believe it, but every time you go out on the street, there are people who think exactly the same about you as OP describes. It's all relative.
>>50806886why shouldn't northern europeans eat dairy? i'm 100% scandinavian and love dairy please tell me
>>50811258>I hate my body/having a female body>I also have all kinds of negative associations to the body I have and really bad confidence and self esteemThat's it. That's your problem.>B-but it's just a fact that my body sucks more! Maybe? Female bodies can do crazy shit in regard to creating life, endurance in swimming in cold water, flexibility, etc. You're going to feel like shit about it as long as you have no positive associations to the female form. It's a lie that every cell in our bodies regenerate over time, cells in your brain, eyes, teeth and ova don't regenerate. We are our bodies, we don't just have a body. You may be unhappy with what you got but that doesn't mean trans ideology is anything other than insanity.
>>50811315You're not alone. I know that sounds trite but I've seen many other women express very similar sentiments. Only women can feel unhappy with having a female body, as you already know.Getting more in tune with yourself by doing physical activity can help, lifting, dancing, etc.
>>50811336>in regard to creating life,THIS IS NOT A PLUSTHE HORROR OF PREGNANCY AND CHILDBIRTH IS NOT A PLUSNOT SERVING THAT ROLE IN REPRODUCTION, AKA FERTILIZING, IS THE SUPERIOR ROLE> endurance in swimming in cold waterbasically never going to benefit from this in my life and serves no aesthetic appeal -- essentially means i am a superior walrus. i hate the curves and fattiness of female bodies. i see women jogging and notice their thighs jiggle even when thin and feel repulsed because i am the same thing. mens bodies are practical and much nicer and less burdensome they are practicalthey make sense for survival
>>50811350it doesnt really i have it at a level where its pops up to bother me only sometimes, it is not a constant thought but little things will remind me and i will remember i am unhappy about it it isnt something i can fix (SRS is not a viable cure to this)
>>50811208I am basically the same way if you reverse the genders. I honestly started lifting so that I had no real way to convince myself that I would pass. Life is pain but this is better than the alternatives.
>>50808669She needs to kill herself.Go ask the doctor if you can get a script for test to improve your looks, PS you can’t it is a felony.But she can, because fuck you.
>>50811208If you don't like being weak, get into martial arts.
>>50811410I got a boyfriend. I cannot engage in any form of altering myself to look like a male and will not even keep my hair short, because he is very heterosexual and tells me I am retarded or something if I bring up my "I want to be a guy" bullshit. It's effective. But I'd still rather have his role in sex and it is sad.
>>50811258You're a little too up in your own head for your own good. Maybe you have some sort of trauma that you've experienced where you felt weak or powerless. For the most part I don't know of many physically weak women, and I have a mother who's on chemotherapy. I don't think surgery will help your image of your genitals, FtM dicks lack certain functionality and look very odd at best. Maybe a middle ground if you feel weak is to low-key roid like some IG thots so you can be 'big'.
>>50811383You just went full retard.>survivalWhat do you think all that fat is for? Yeah, men can kill shit good. Women survive good. It may not be fair or what you want but that's existence for you.You honestly should pursue the least jew-y therapy you can find from a therapist that won't push transitioning or meds on you. I mean that with no offense directed to you at all. What it boils down to is you feel upset and scared and cheated but you're smart enough to understand the trans agenda is pure crazy. You hate yourself on some level, either from society's input, your own feelings or someone else. Until you work through that things are gonna feel shitty.
>>50811401Deal with it or KYS, I find it hard to believe that you are a "tomboy" wanting to be male. I don't know how women in this time would want to be a man, our lives are that much harder, especially dating. Especially in terms of "dating"
>>50811429Peg him>>50811421Also this
>>50811421I've looked into it. I may pursue it in the future. But... it doesn't erase that I am weaker. I cannot ever train that away because almost any man who puts in even half the effort I do to train, will be stronger than be just by default of being male. It's a shit feeling. pic related
>>50809402>but no actual le reddit onion boysSöyboys only behave like söyboys on the Internet and in REALLY closed environments. In real life they're (using your words) "really shy and weak". The ones you know that do paleo and shit are an oddity
>>50811436If you set any of the "not physically weak women" you know against a man who is of comparable activity/fitness levels, he could wreck her. FTM dick is atrocious. I would never pursue that. It's literally an inflatable dick and it looks disgusting. You have to squeeze the balls to pump it up. Ridiculous. Plus it isn't real. You can't ever have viable reproductive sex with it.
>>50811474Why do you want to be a father so badly?
>>50811474It's OK, just be yourself.
>>50806886LMAO what a carnist bullshit. Your pyramid is the sure way to colon cancer and heart disease. Enjoy feasting on corpses and drinking another species' breast milk you cuck.You know when I was young, the cereal companies used to print a similar pyramid on every box they sold. Obviously what you put on top as dead animals was for them (of course) grains, wheat, corn etc. So basically they told you the majority of your nutrition should consist of genetically modified gluten bombs that glue your intestines together and destroy your gut.>>50811330>i'm 100% scandinavian and love dairy please tell meNot that guy, but the majority of humans can't digest lactose because it is simply unnatural to drink another species' breast secretions. You wouldn't even drink from the tit of another woman (I hope) yet you're drinking from the tit of a literal animal. Also you don't love the milk per se, but you love the morphine like substances that sedate the calf and make it come back to its mother's udder. You love to be sedated.
>>50811452Fuck off. Your pic says it all. Don't beat yourself over your gender. You can become stronger than most people, men included. Not being able to be the best is something nearly everyone has to deal with. It may be being a female for you, for me it's having the smallest wrists you've probably ever seen on a grown ass man. So what? Are you telling me you're gonna give up just because you have it harder than some people? That's like saying you're not gonna apply for uni just because you have an IQ under 150.
>>50811439survival is bad wordingi just mean stuff like when i am out and doing physical work, the strength is far superior to extra fat - i have clothes and the ability to make a fire, a wood stove, or heating. i have the intelligence to survive with stuff like that. the strength is better. i can fight things off with it as well as do work. men also am not burdened by being pregnant, which makes it harder to provide for myself and is a sort of robbing if autonomy/independence in a way. if i dont engage in that, i dont engage in reproduction. if i don't engage in some form of birth control to prevent reproduction in order to prevent pregnancy, i don't engage in sex. all forms of female-centric birth control are artificial and not good for you (fake hormones in hormonal BCs, IUDs work by causing constant inflammation of the uterus, etc.)so if i don't want to do those things, i also lose out on the ability to choose to have sex men also don't deal with periods which are so disgustingly messy they are not in any way practical unless you have the ability to tend to that consistently for its duration every single month 12 times a year for 40 years and it may or may not make you feel ill in such a way that youre less useful for working and doing things i also cant easily piss anywhere unless i want to piss on myself, on my clothes, or completely remove pants from my legs while out hiking in the woods, to avoid pissing on my clothes because squatting to piss with pants around you ankles doesnt workits also shitty because your bare ass is just out there, exposedand vaginas just... leak? all the time? they're just gross. they leak blood. they leak mucus and discharge. theyre gross. theyre uneaesthetic. theyre impractical. they hurt you during sex. they hurt you during reproduction. my genitals are for pain. mens are for pleasure exclusively.
>>50811509>you wouldn't even drink from the tit of another womanyou wouldn't? faggot.
>>50811474Jump on roids and do bjj. Gabi garcia could fuck up 99% of /fit/ in under a minute. See also: chris cyborg and that bulldyke that just pile drivered rose into oblivion last weekend.
>>50811474Hey, yeah I could beat the shit out of any one of those women. However being somewhat civilized in my own right and living in a decent area of the world where beating the absolute shit out of women isnt a normal thing, they don't have to worry about defending themselves from attackers and instead just have to worry about exercise endurance, being able to lift gardening supplies, etc. I'm not sure what mental problem or hangup you have, but it's not really typical to worry so much about being weaker than the opposite sex as if you're in a constant survival situation.
>>50811441>I find it hard to believe that you are a "tomboy" wanting to be male.Then don't believe it. Be weird. I'm biologically female. I was an aggressive little shit of a kid. Those traits I had were associated with masculinity. Wow. Surprise. I would prefer to be the masculine sex due to being more masculine in nature. What makes that so hard for your dumb ass to comprehend?
>>50811579I grew up on a farm then did manual labor for jobs as a teenager/young adult, and also was aggressive and got into a lot of fights. Strength was/is of value to me.
>>50811541I did not say I am giving up. There is nothing in these posts that has implied giving up, only feelings of discomfort/indignation.
ITT: "female" complaining about being female, demonstrating in the process that the victim mentality not only applies to basedboys and feminists, but also on potential FTM trannies
>>50811573Why are roids OK while not going full on testosterone FTM isn't?
>>50811565the trick to pissing outside whilst female is grip onto a slender tree with your feet as close to the tree as possible, stick your hips out and away from your feet then let 'er rip. or get a gogirl urination device.> they hurt you during sex.nothing should be hurting during sex. get a new partner or see a doctor.>my genitals are for pain. mens are for pleasure exclusively.we get it, you're damaged. you may have some valid points but it's swimming in an assload of internalized hatred.
>>50811323>it's all relativeGo to bed kid
>>50811613maybe you could stop being an aggressive shit stirrer. that behavior isn't endearing for anyone.
>>50811639Roids allow to you recover faster and thereby train more.Permanently disfiguring your body does nothing but give jews money for taking advantage of your mental illness.
>>50805805>vaccinations>erradication of famines>access to medical care>decrease of physically demanding jobs>allergies due to pollution or lack of exposure in formative years>shittier diets in terms of too much processed foods.>different labor market and peaceful society change the priorities of physical selection>lack of proper physical and nutritional education>lack of recurring physical activities for leisure/hobbies>lower test levels>civilizational decay
>>50811258take anavar and get massive breast implants
>>50806513Those were always the values espoused.
>>50811641yes i know how to piss outside its just much less convenient and still means you have to take your pants off in some place, cant really sneaky pee i have something like that but its kind of cumbersome to use/not as good as youd hope, and also gross to carry around a pissy piece of silicone >we get it, you're damaged.i am not damaged because i understand that birth is inherently painful and pregnancy is not an enjoyable risk free process female sex also just sometimes hurts and most women won't orgasm from it unless they have their clit, which is basically just a tiny defunct micropenis, stimulated women cant even come unless you jerk off their tiny dicks while fucking their actual reproductive organ like wtf is that
>>50811613yeah I know your type
>>50811632this isn't news, silly anon.
>>50811651i'm not anymore, i fought a lot as a kid/teenager (although it wasnt always me starting them). i have to be an adult who can go to jail now. >>50811654wouldn't roids also permanently disfigure my body? >>50811688What do you mean?
>>50811680>i am not damaged because i understand that birth is inherently painful and pregnancy is not an enjoyable risk free processmotherhood is worth it
>>50811680>female sex also just sometimes hurtswhat doctor told you that? sex really doesn't need to be painful. it shouldn't be painful.you're damaged not because you know pregnancy is dangerous but because of how much scorn you have for half the population.
>>50811710>don't know how roids work>don't know how sex works>don't know how pregnancy worksConfirmed for tranny discord incel. At least you got a fuckton of (you)s
>>50811714motherhood is just parenthoodmen are also parentsthere is little difference besides the investment/pain is one sided>>50811716penetration can hurt sometimes for a lot of reasons that are not that uncommon (really varies, from first few times/hymen related stuff, lack of arousal, nervousness/lack of relaxation, bad angles, dick genuinely too big, cervix getting hit, etc.) it isnt really common for penetrating to hurt men though
>>50811632Women and niggers in here need to tell everyone they're women and niggers. They just can't keep in for themselves. They don't get this is an anonymous board
>>50806513>virtue and reasonmasculinity is about drinking beer, driving c2o-emitting NON-environment friendly cars, and bullying the week. only cucks disagree.
>>50811749i don't know how roids work, true but how do i not know how sex works? and especially how do i not know how pregnancy works?
>>50811785>and especially how do i not know how pregnancy works?Have you ever been pregnant? Because if that isn't the case then you're at the same leval as all these men in here
>>50811509Post emeciated body
>>50811258You sound extremely pathetic.
>>50811815im not at the same level of men in here unless they have also read a lot about the process of pregnancy, the associated risks/complications, etc. because they have some desire for children but are the ones with the organs who have to go through that process and understanding of how those organs really work and feel... most men i have met are painfully ignorant on pregnancy beyond the basic understanding of "baby grows inside woman, kicks, makes her throw up, and then hurts when it comes out that hole that is kind of like my butthole but not really, and might cause some tearing when it comes out but then its fine"most of them i have talked to are absolutely incapable of understanding the fear and repuslion and dismiss it with "and this is normal because women are designed for it and have been doing it for thousands of years" most of them have no idea about the long-term side effects that often occur (changes to bone structure due to relaxin hormones, incontinence, problem with abdominal muscles, lifelong diabetes, hair loss, tooth decay, etc.) either. it is very easily swept under the rug for most men because they do not have to deal with it. they just get a cooked baby at the end.
>>50811871Their fears stem from not having a partner worth a shit. These men you believe are vastly superior to you are in fact weak.
>>50811680Would you still want to be a guy if you were manlet and had male pattern baldness and we're smol?
>>50805805>FtM has more facial hair than I doI DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT RAGE WAS UNTIL TODAY!
>>50811871Oh now I get it, you're one of that doublethink feminists who think men are intrinsically superior to women and that's why women need more rights and shit like that. I've been hearing a lot about your kind, but that's the first time I've seen one in here
>>50805805Test levels have been dropping dramatically for the past few decades. Avg dude's test level is something like 65% what it would have been in the 50s. There's also a huge problem with xenoestrogens in the water supply. So many women take birth control, and they piss out that estrogen, which can't be properly filtered without one of these bad boys. Nobody ever talks about this issue though because the powers that be want men as emasculated as possible and this serves that purpose.You know who's behind this.
>>50811905Whos fears? Where the fuck were we talking about mens fears here? >>50811911Yes and no. The fact that this is what FTM me would be is a good deterrent in part. I know I would still be small with weird/small bone structure for a guy. But at the same time the overall body even if small is more appealing to me just in shape/form/function despite scale.
>>50806391Create a new masculinity?Fine... but at least make sure our new version can still change a tire!
>>50806886>putting coconuts in your dietIt has more fat than lard
>>50811751>tfw ur brain broke
>>50811959I think for the most part people aren’t 100% happy with who they are. I wish I were born to different parents and I were rich and didn’t ruin stretches of my life with alcohol. If I want to be rich I can try my best but there is no guarantee I will attain my goal but I have a better shot than someone who puts forth no effort. If you want to be strong go ahead and lift weights and be as strong as you can. There are certain things you can’t change, you were born female make the best of it. Shit could always be worse and the fact that we have so little about that we complain about this is testament to that, some people are worried about food and water and whether or not they can get some more before they die
>>50811953What is that? Is it worth getting?
we're kind of at a shitty point right now where kids who would've just been a tomboy or a fag before are now constantly blasted with messages telling them to hate the bodies they were born with and they can never be ok unless they pump themselves full of chemicals & get plastic surgery and this is all done under the guise of positivity and acceptance. everyone has their own gear now whether it's adderall or spiro or tren. now self actualization is just another lifestyle product >>50811452that's a limited way of perceiving strength. outside of the weight room, very few aspects of life can be reduced down to who can lift the most heavy things. skill, mental persistence and straight up grit count for a lot ime. some of the gnarliest skaters & snowboarders i knew growing up were girls and they held their own and took their slams just as well as anyone. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p44TIA0Dlvk
>>50812178We're having a no holds barred sale right now at infowars dot com just type in FREEDOM for tge coupon and you'll get 30% off
>>50811565>mens[sic] [genitals] are for pleasure exclusivelyUhhhhh, have you ever tried peeing with a boner before? Thought so.
>>50812337No I've never tried to make mustard gas before, FBI.
>>50811499I want to run my tongue all over her body. Why am I like this?
>>50812195Agreed, I always find it interesting when a woman outlasts a big guy on naked and afraid. Women not be able to hit the same numbers in the gym as men but that doesent mean they can’t be all around tough.
>>50811258You are the definition of mentally ill. Don’t take that the wrong way, you should look to feel more confident in yourself. >half the species is stronger than you So what? You could lift weights as a girl and easily be stronger than most men. Most men can’t bench 150 pounds. Or you could just get over it. Are men crying that a lot of women’s life is easier than them? Fuck no.
>>50811871>then hurts when it comes out that hole that is kind of like my butthole but not really,Wait. What do you mean babbies don't come out of the butthole? Why does anal vore exist then>
This thread is reddit as fuck. Who gives a fuck about the broken bitch desperate for attention? She reminds me of a female on another forum I browse: every fucking post is woe is me bullshit about how tough they have it and how nobody cares/understands. Stop replying to it and it will go away to find attention elsewhere. You're not going to fix the mentally broken after a 10 minute message exchange on an anonymous shitposting community.
>>50812352There is nothing wrong with that.
>>50811323>191cm / 75kg >fairly okayNigga I'm 185cm/90kg with normal bf% and wouldn't call myself particularly muscular. Eat more. I'm not even saying it has to be meat.
>>50805881lol, so true. Honestly no-one with their shit together in any way shape or form should even consider what basedboys are doing for a second. It's a waste of time
>>50812423It looks like they already stopped replying despite responses.
>>50812429It's nice to see another man with good taste. She is my waifu though so please stop posting her now.>>50812432"Nigga" you sound fat as fuck. Post your body next time you make a dumb post like this. Not the guy you're replying to btw.
>>50808885These teachers will completely lose their minds on the day of the axe
>>50807290>tfw a fucking chick is going to look more ripped by you because she gets free test from the governmentFUUUUUUU
>>50810002What has been done to her is about the equivalent of a man losing, or losing the function of, his penis. The looks of a woman is the one most important thing she has in the sexual market. There is no going back now. The lies of the Cult of equality have deformed her into a truly disgusting creature. This is basically Reek or Gollum.
>>50812468This dude https://youtu.be/mwy7ZO6ESSg is 191@89kg so it's plausible.
>>50811258I'm going to sound like a loser here, but 95% of the time I'd rather be a female over a male. You just lack confidence, which you have to find some way to build. Whatever you do dont go trans, you'll only mess yourself up forever.
>>50812468post link to your wife's instagram pls.
>>50812602>this random on Youtube has similar stats so the fat fuck LARPing on 4chan probably looks the same!>>50812630https://www.instagram.com/margojain/Please be respectful to her.
>>50812602This video btfos manlets. Really badly. >be short>less muscle looks larger on your tiny frame>"b-but we lift a lot more than you lanklets!">it requires less strength to do soRIP manlets
>>50805885Bullying wasn't even that bad until zero tolerance policies came about that would punish the bullied kid that stood up for himself harder than it would punish the bullies. This is why school shootings became a thing.
>>50812557what country you living in? all the trannies i know are either too broke to pay for their hormones or impoverished because of them
>it's the liberals that look like shit!
>>50807237The creepy squirrelly little hands with the nail polish really bother me
>>50811429Tag team dykes niggie, what are you doing
>>50805805do you think modern culture created more effete males, or simply gave them more exposure? there were a lot of wimp-ass nerds in my high school that grew into wimp-ass obscurity as adults. I'd never even know they still exist if not for social media. How many times do you meet actual sóy lords in the real world? I can count them on one hand, personally.
>>50811429have you considered dating a gay bottom instead
>>50805881>implying any of you autists even talk to women
>>50813510I've smiled at a girl and she smiled back. That's happened twice, two different girls.
>>50813030ya, blacks are the most obese race
>>50813571GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD NORMIE
>>50813571Wow its literally nothing
>>50813385it's a mix of factors imo>12+ years public education with largely female instructors, barely any physical activity; just bureaucratic tedium for 9 hours a day. normal male behaviors are punished & masculinity is increasing treated as a problem>many kids need their natural personality to be medicated away to succeed in this environment >high divorce rate results in many boys growing up with limited exposure to male role models, the home becomes another female dominated environment >post columbine legalism creates a risk-averse culture where healthy conflicts are avoided at all costs >declines in domestic manufacturing (i.e; one of the biggest domains of traditionally masculine blue collar jobs) a greater focus on training towards white collar & people oriented careers >transformation from marketing & advertising departments being primarily male dominated to majority female
>>50807237His wrists look retarded
>>50812178Reverse osmosis water filter
>>5081246890kg 185cm isnt fat providing you lift
>>50813030We are talking about white people here, when broaching the s oiboi epidemic. I think its only fair that you only compare non-hispanic whites
>>50811871No one who is not a parent already knows shit about being a parent. ask actual mothers (and fathers) about parenting. Having a baby will change everything about your self image & ideas about gender. The first thing is that it's not about YOU anymore. It will change you more profoundly than anything else in your natural life.
>>50812358um, you know that's a TV show, right?
>>50806128MAKING THE FRIGGIN' FROGS GAY
>>50813385literally created them. i keep telling people that even the nerds nowadays are weaker than the nerds of the past. my dad and stepdad are both nerdy aerospace engineers who loved star trek and scifi and whatnot. despite this both of them knew alot of tools, mechanics, cars, etc. manly stuff that you need to know, and they both had big forearms, lean physiques, handsome faces despite being 'nerds' in their interests and professions. you can go look at the actual statistical data that reflects declines in sperm parameters, androgens, grip strength, probably more that im not immediately aware of. also anecdotally: a lot of guys i meet have fathers who are much bigger than them and manlier than them. im like one the few guys who is taller than his dad that i know irl
>>50814246Google atrazine, it indeed made frogs gay.
>>50811592Because this board is full of baiting "trans" faggots like you who expect to be put on a pedestal as if you're on fucking reddit Kys fag
>>50805805I’ve been a complete twink my whole life, I blame endocrine disruptors endemic in my diet when growing up
>>50814270This. I know 'men' in their 30s that say with PRIDE that the only tool they're capable of using is a fork. Bitch ass nigger, this is not something to be proud of, quite the opposite.
>>50809318Be careful what you wish for. You want to be able to buy whatever 'health care' you want, better believe some shisters will be selling it
>>50805805Unironically I blame single moms and society as a whole. Masculinity as a whole is dying, and it is women who are killing it. Imagine growing up as a young buy with no one to reference but your mother, who is more than likely going to not re-marry and will become increasingly bitter towards men. She'll raise her kid to be "the man women deserve", IE a cuck who doesn't see an old dried up woman with kids as a waste of time.The effects of single motherhood on young boys is well documented and researched, and no one talks about it. It is criminal, women have near diplomatic immunity in the political world.
>>50811323>191cm / 75kg I'm doing fairly okay I guessShoo shoo hungry skeleton
>>50814743to this in 9 years. taking test makes females ugly.JUST
>>50814743>>50814753Well she was never good looking to begin with but I don't know why trannies does this, women especially. They never end up looking right and if you want to be treated as a man you're going to take a lot of shit for your effeminate appearance. Anyone remember that story of the dyke who pretended to be a male for awhile and realised nobody gave a fuck about her anymore? She even cries at one point and some bloke tells her to harden up lmao.
The day porn will finally peak is when a huge woman like gabi garcia rape a guy like this, just imagine the high pitched screams.
>>50814791this book?and yeah, I get what you mean but she's reporting her hair is falling out like crazy, her hairline has receded a lot, she's got more acne at 28 then she did at 19 and on top of that binding her chest is giving her strong pain in her ribcage.she also keeps saying her bladder or something in there hurts all the time.
>>50814828I didn't realise it was a book but yeah I think that's the one. I read a news article that had an interview with her. I think she ends up saying she developed a deep appreciation for men and what they go through because it was an eye opening experience.>I get what you mean but she's reporting her hair is falling out like crazy, her hairline has receded a lotlmao what did she think would happen as a male? >she's got more acne at 28 then she did at 19 and on top of that binding her chest is giving her strong pain in her ribcageHow the fuck do you still get acne at 28? I thought HRT was supposed to mimic a normal hormone profile for the opposite sex? I've apparently got high test according to blood tests but I haven't had acne in years and I don't even wash my face ever.How do you know so much about this tranny?
>>50808669The person in in the OP pic must have some fucking fucked up diet. When ftm's look like shit it's also because they don't work out or dress in a way that flatters the literal girl skeleton screaming inside them. Also many are fatties who transition because becoming male is easier than dieting. Somehow they still stay fat running fucking test.That being said, those trannies can keep fucking up, because it just makes it easier for me to blend in and stay under the radar.t. ftm
>>50814878she's an online trainwreck I can't stop watching like The Truman Show.she's had raging acne the entire time she's been on T which has been like 7 or 8 years. I think she didn't realize the extent of how severe the effect of T would be. she's very dismayed about her appearance and worries about it all the time... yet continues to be trans and shoot up T.
>>50814886>because it just makes it easier for me to blend in and stay under the radarYou only "stay under the radar" because FTMs aren't thought about. I guarantee guys look at you and realise there is something odd about you.>>50814914It's a shame unscrupulous doctors indulge this sort of mental illness. >unhappy>constant side effects>body is resisting the "change">continues to fuck itself up anyway>will never actually be a manIt's very sad.
>>50814940Or that people are just being polite/staying out of others' business. I can recognize ftms well. It's very disturbing that doctors have allowed mass unchecked hysteria. I have lost faith in doctors/healthcare.She apparently will sometimes in her head obsessively "hear" or say her "deadname" aloud over and over... every time her shot day draws near she essentially has a mini-breakdown. I've tried in the past anonymously to suggest what she's doing is unhealthy but she's stubborn and gets pissed off at anyone who tries to change her mind.
>>50807017Looks like a cool dude to me.
>>50814988Unfortunately people on the internet can't fix the mentally ill. She needs people in her life to intervene but apparently they don't care either by the sound of it. Just hope and pray she's delivered from her illness, I don't think anything else can be done.
>>50814940>You only "stay under the radar" because FTMs aren't thought about. I guarantee guys look at you and realise there is something odd about you.Sometimes I can tell they do, yeah. I don't mind, so long as they can't tell what they're homing in on.
>>50815019I unironically hope you do something about your mental health before you irrecoverably destroy your body.
>>50811258Keep the pussy, embrace the tomboy. This is the only correct answer.
>>50811452now imagine being a man but you’re still short and weakright now you (women) have inherent value, but a suboptimal man is completely disposable
>>50815038I was planning to shoot myself in the face and had basically gone mute before picking up the needle. That being said, I really transition should be anyone's absolute last resort. I worry if things will go downhill in about 2-3 more years, so I'm trying to live my best life and get JACKED before anything really fucked happens. Which I guess is better than not living at all. Thanks!
>>50815071How are your relationships with other people? Do you have a girlfriend/boyfriend who can help you with your suicidal thoughts? Family? A friend?
>>50811082>she's just depressed or has an anxiety disorder99% of trans are just gays and lesbians with issues looking for something to fix it. >They're two if my best friends who have been with me for seven years through thick and thin, so I have no choice but to just be supportive if I want to keep them.
>>50815104Same as they ever were, with better cope.. hikki'd in my bedroom 2 solid years, the family didn't do anything even when I slept 18 hours a day. Had a couple shitty online friends who didnt care/were sjw troglodytes, was a KHV.I had no one then, now even less people I talk to than before. I'm working on it. My isolated childhood is probably a factor. Don't homeschool your kids.
>>50815211Are you ugly?Not being cruel, its genuinely a factor here.
>>50815211Sorry, it's a bit hard to follow your post. Have you tried speaking to your family? I can't help you but you seem like you really need someone to be there for you who actually cares and won't just feed you their agenda. I hope you make it, anon. Please don't give up and kill yourself.>>50815232Oi don't be a cunt m8
>>50815232No, haha. I'm not ugly, never been fat. You're just going to have to take my word for it, sorry. I'm not even that ugly as a tranny, but definitely uncanny as the other anon mentioned. We all are. Small, androgynous.>>50815258I did speak to my family about the topic several times for years and they just told me I was a pretty girl. They also never did anything when I was literally immobilized with depression in a spare room. I'm 2.5 years on T, I'm trying not to kill myself. Thanks, anon.
>>50806391holy shit a good post? thanks for sharing breh
>>50815258>Oi don’t be a cunt m8
>>50815282Should have worded it better, I meant before TRT.But wait are you actually attracted to women?I mean it genuinely sounds more like you craved the respect you (maybe falsely) believed is directed towards men but not to women, or at least to you as a woman. Basically I mean did you actually have gender dysphoria or was it a hatred of how you were treated by others as a woman?
>>50815657I had no help or support before TRT. Had female centric fantasies before TRT. After, only cocklust. Granted, I never got to have sex until after the fact.I've never craved respect, or to be treated male, people are so full of shit, anyway. It's predominantly been a physical aspect for me, which is why I basically stopped speaking. I believe I have a condition or mental illness. However, if I had any loving relationships before TRT, perhaps it could've been avoided. But the gender shit encouraged my self-isolating tendencies and ability to function to find loving relationships. I felt like I was in so much pain over this I had no choice but to kill myself, and it scared me. I hope this answers your questions, and I understand it's very strange.
>>50805805Yeah, men back in the days were so strong hehe
>>50815575>thinking I want to fuck a tranny>thinking it's white knighting to point out that you shouldn't be a cunt to the mentally ill, especially those who have/are likely/think they will contemplate(d) suicideShoo shoo incel.
>>50815768You're basically admitting that you transitioned out of loneliness. Transition back before it's too late, take anavar if you want to get jacked and become some gymcel's varbie.
>>50815768>only cocklustIt is very strange, and actually its just created dozens more questions, but I'll leave most of them.It being based mostly on fitness is interesting though. Would you not have been happy to just do steroids without the gender transition? Or is that less effective in some way?
>>50815987I have considered it may be, but I really cannot stress enough that my gender bs in regard to my physical body feels "cured". Now I just care about my health and being strong. Either way, it's really too late to go back, anon. :) I will live with my decision... until it kills me from a heart attack or something.>>50816070Idk man. I couldn't jack off because I was depressed about no dick. Before test, I worked out down to lean abs Ready-to-Varbie, but still couldnt handle my female body. That's when I decided it was probably safe to mutilate it. Hahahaha.Not all trannies are gonna be the same, MY ORIGINAL POINT IS: don't take test if you're a fatass/not going to work out and have a shitty diet. This is what makes ftm's look like OP. Makes normal guys look like shit, too. OP pic is not a soiboi... He's a pussyboy with some kind of fucked diet...
>>50813432I don't have a penis so it doesn't really work.
>>50816151>He'sIt's a she.
>>50806160Unironically the truth is always somewhere in the middle, a lot of these unfit/weak people are doing enough in their lives and simply do not prioritise health and fitness, and similarly while lifting will prob give most people a bunch of benefits, it's not like an instant fix to everything either.
>>50806391>They might have high minded values for what society should be like, but the people themselves are a mess.God this is the most accurate shit I've read on here
>>50816549There's actually a connection. By focusing on groups arguing for big change, they get to displace all their misery and blame it on an external. I a miserable, but it's because of <outside group>. That gives them a carte blanche to continue their bad habits, and have something to focus their anger at.
>>50812745As it should be.
>>50808885Its almost like if you're looking for it you will find it.
>>50811871>>50811815>>50811751>>50811710>>50811680>>50811613>>50811592>>50811565Hey skank, How about you shut your mouth, get raped and die in a ditch already?You're shit as a woman and as a man, and no one here cares about your unhappiness.Die.
>>50806672>>50810333Good job, boys. Keep swinging them dicks.