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/fraud/ - thread dead for 3 hours and no one bothered to make a new one

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read ALL OF the r/steroids wiki:
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

No source talk allowed.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use http://steroidcalc.com/

If you're going to ask a beginner question, make sure to include:
- age
- bf%
- time spent training

previously on jm becomes the ultimate wagecuck on amphetamines: >>50394210
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>>50435702
> thread dead

no fucking shit, /fraud/ is GARBAGE. I can literally go to reddit and have a more meaningful and insightful discussion. Most of the people here on steroids look like fucking shit too, we've seen the CBT posts lads.

Why on earth would anyone actually want to post here?
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Stop roiding
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How do I find the ventro glutual sweet spot? Anyone have a video?

I've been doing what this trans-freak is doing, but I don't think it's right lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK5ml-ZrskE
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>>50435734
thanks for trying to liven up the thread with your shit b8 m8

>>50435777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqps25XBj3I is the goat.

check the reddit wiki there's also like 7 different pictures
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>>50436419

Am I fat or what because when I flex like that I see no muscle pop out :(
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New to /fraud/ just ordered 2 bottles of test, 1 bottle each of aromasin, nolvadex and clomid. I'm going to pin 250mg twice a week for 10 weeks. What am I in for? Will it affect my sleep and work? I work in a factory so I assume it'll help a little.
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>>50436633

lol you are in for disappointment and very small LBM gains
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>>50436633
u are in for a disappointment. you wont feel anything for at least 2 months, after that you possibly have better gym recovery and slightly higher libido. that's about it. zero affect on work or sleep.
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>>50436675
I was thinking of kick starting the first 6 weeks with dbol but I know it aromatises easily, would you guys reccomend it?
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>>50436633
If you have a decent routine and eat well you'll see really fucking solid gains on 500 mg/week of test-e
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>>50436633
10 weeks isn’t long enough, at least 16 but 20 is ideal.
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>>50436633
I assume it's Testosterone Enanthate (Test E)
If my guess is correct then order a third bottle and run that shit for 15 weeks
Test E is a long Esther so it won't kick in till about week 3.
Kick-starting with Dbol is an option but you gotta AI from day one.
Man up and buy another bottle, then run that shit for 15 weeks
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>>50437726

Yeah what’s your address?
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>>50436633

Lmao test e kicks in 6 weeks so you only have 4 weeks of gaining muscle. Plus being on 500 mg you won’t see a drastically change. If you wanna look like you take steroids you should be doing at least 1g per week.
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>>50436633
>What am I in for?
Like others already said: dissapoitment. Test e takes long weeks to saturate your blood fully and you won't feel anything from test. Not even strength gains. You will get stronger over time but it will feel like you had to work for it so forget about sudden strength gains. 10 weeks is way too short because you will get fully saturated around 8 weeks in and this is when you might feel that test itself is helping a bit with strength gains. Unironically testosterone will make you feel worse when it comes to your daily life. If you actually put work in the gym expect to become sore as fuck like you never hit the gym before (this will go away at some point). Truth is that food makes you bigger and stronger. I can blast all sorts of doses and nothing gives me as much strength as solid caloric surplus. If you can't afford more test i would say you should cut the dose in half and run 250mg for longer period. At least you will have more time to adjust things and optimize your gaining rate before you run out of gear.
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>>50438024
I forgot to also mention pip. It depends on you and your gear so remember you might be not able to walk properly after injecting steroids in your ass.
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>>50438024
>>50438042

You full of shit son. I have a friend who takes test e 500 mg and he is big.
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Can all tren be injected subcutaneously? Maybe I'm just being a pussy but I've been injecting like this for a few weeks and it burns like a motherfucker for a few days each time and I haven't been noticing the tren effects as much. IM injections I barely had any pain. I'd keep doing those but I ran out of the longer needles I was using. So basically I just wanna know if the pain seems abnormal does it means it's not working? I'm fine sucking it up as long as it's working.
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>>50438140
Quote the part where i said he won't gain muscle you fucking retard.

Also, doses have noting to do with being small or big.
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>>50438183

Why This dude is going to be disappointed? You have no common sense mate, it’s impossible. You are horny all the time, your mood and the way you think improves, you are more alpha. I’m running 2g and I feel like GOD
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>>50435702

there is this girl at my gym that is a solid 4-5. she alwys works out in minimal clothing, mostly nude. what do i say to her? I want bad, looks easy
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>>50438194
>Why This dude is going to be disappointed?
I can guarantee 100% he is diving in thinking he will blow up, get shredded and big at the same time. Every natty thinks this is how it goes.

>You are horny all the time
Depends on individual. I ran doses from 100mg per week up to 1g and never felt any change in libido.

>your mood and the way you think improves
It doesn't. You might think it does but it's all placebo.

>you are more alpha
Look at this alpha male in pic rel.

PS.
>I’m running 2g and I feel like GOD
>that anon is going to run 25% of that dose
What makes you think he will experience same effects as you?
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Okay so I'm going to be frank here, i have been working out for about 6 months now 4 times a week and I might have lost something along the likes of 5 KG and I'm getting fed up with the sacrifices and struggles i had to endure to get here,
I'm 26 years old
125 KG at this moment
3 months 4 times a week
3 months now 8 times a week
I can bench press something along the lines of 80 kg and deadlift at least 100kg.
the problem i have is alot of stomach fat och i really want to slim down,
Any steriod or pill to increase metabolism would be a nice tip of you
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>>50438194
>I’m running 2g and I feel like GOD
oh yea?
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>>50438231

Don’t talk to me if you’re running less than 2 grams Kid
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>>50438259

haha
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>>50438259
Cocaine.
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>>50438259
Dnp
Fork putdowns until failure, you fatass
Dont do steroids as a whale
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>>50438286

You got nothing, don't you ?
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>>50438180
Feel like I should clarify, I'm pretty used to a variety of muscle/injection pain but this feels like I'm injecting straight lava and it's pretty instantaneous. Just wanna be sure I'm not doing more harm than good
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>>50438259
>>50438296
There is no fucking shortcut to losing fat you dumb lazy shit. There are no steroids that burn fat and even on dnp you still have to eat like you would on a normal cut.

>i have been working out for about 6 months
>I'm getting fed up with the sacrifices and struggles
just quit and save yourself trouble
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>>50438304
Jesus Subq tren
No thanks jeff
Get more needles brah, they are cheap af
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So I saw an anon in this thread talking about doing 250mg Test E 10 weeks. How much gains can one expect to make with this?
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coping natty here

Whats the cheaters' opinion of MK677?
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>>50438739
none
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>>50438822
How can that be? Shouldn't 250mg at least triple your natty test?
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>>50438827
People cruise on 100-150ish depending on how they react.
250mg is higher sure, but for fuck all benefit. Why shut yourself down for a marginal increase in test levels? 500mg test e is a complete beginner cycle, very mild itself and will provide better gains than natty for sure, but not as much as people think

Test + deca + dbol/adrol to actually put on mass

>>50438760
Good for hunger + low gh benefits
people shilling it as oral gh equivalent are autistic
Also, how are steroids cheating? Most of us don't compete in tested events and spoiler: all your favourite athletes/actors are juiced up too
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500 mg Test E + 800 mg Bold + Adrol finisher

Coming soon to a theater near you
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currently in my 4th week of test and mast...my dick and balls are tingling like crazy, cant go a day without busting a nut, falling asleep is hard when i can only think about sex
fuck mane, im probably gonna rape a girl in the next few weeks
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>>50438180
Try heating the oil on a mug warmer or in shallow water.
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Any ideas on why im not losing weight? im about 6´3 (192 cm) and about 210lbs (95kg)
im doing keto and ive been eating 2100 kcal for about 3 weeks. lost 2.5kg the first week and only 0.3-0.4 the other two weeks.
i was expecting to loose around a kg per week.
im on 500mg test aswell and i have my E2 under control so im not carrying any excess water.
the thing is i look better by the day, and going the tape measure im gaining/losing in all the right places. training PPL 3 on 1 off.
Am i actually gaining muscle and loosing fat? because thats what it feels/looks like and thats what the tape suggests. also my lifts have remained about the same.
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Currently on trt and got blood result back prolactin is at 12ug/L and I seems like I got anemia.

Should I be worried about my prolactin level?
Also any tips or idea why I'm anemic?
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>>50439495
cant build muscles if youre eating less
youre probably just shaping up
maybe even go lower with your cal intake
also isnt 500mg a bit too much ?
cruise on 250mg a week, thats still enough
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>>50438259
>125kg
>sacrifice and struggle
mate you're life has never been about struggle getting up to that weight already at that age you're just a fucking disappointment
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>>50439906
>cant build muscles if youre eating less
thats what i was thinking but everything seems to point towards it.
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>>50440196
I'd say don't question why but enjoy the benefits then
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Can masT or someone actually big chime in? What’s the highest dose of test you’d do if sides weren’t a problem? 1g? 1.5g? Or is high test pointless without other compounds?
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>>50437726
Sure if you gimme a rimmy and pat my tummy I'll fetch you some test
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>>50441178
I don't even need the test but where do i sign up?
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7 months expired but people here said if it looks good visually it should be ok to use

Hows it look?
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>>50435702
150mg wk of ten with 500mg wk of test e

Trying to cut .. hows my first cycle look?
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>>50441305
>ampoules
my condolences

it's very hard to tell from your picture but looks fine. inspect them for crystallization or anything floating in the oil

>>50441369
you're a moron
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>>50441381
:(
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>>50441305
You'll be fine since its unopened just warm it up under some hot water to decrystallize.
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If I wanna cruise at 150mg test e, should i only inject once a week to avoid the needle dead space
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>>50440677
Everything from 1G test fucked me over hard.

>>50441614
https://discord.gg/KkRB7P
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>>50442518
is this the same guy as always?? there is always ONE (1) fucking faggot talking about his fucking deadspace and special needles and space technology pumps.
if not, when you draw from your vial you simply draw 1.1ml instead of 1ml. and let the 0.1 go to fucking waste. this is cheap stuff.
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>>50442558
Well it's a bigger deal when it's only 150mg and no I'm a different anon that actually pins. I'm still 12 weeks away from cruising but wouldnt it just make sense to pin 1x weekly with such a low dose
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>>50442592
ok. in that case, yes. it makes sense to inject only once per week or maybe e5d. if one didnt care to much about the small amount of waste that occurs its arguable better to inject more often like eod. because you will have more stable levels and because its such a small amount of oil it will be quick and easy.
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I need /fit/ BEST, and simplest cycle recommendation

I want to
1. put on 10 pounds lean mass in 20 weeks(will eat at maintenance)
2. i want to avoid anything very androgenic(i have a noticeable receding hairline)
3. I dont want to hold alot of water on cycle


I got great results with 500mg test cyp for 20 weeks, but i was holding a fuck load of water on cycle.

Someone recommended 250 test cyp, 250 NPP, anyone have any opinion on that, or recommend something else?
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>>50442540
Really? Damn, I'm clearly doing something wrong and was hoping maybe high dose could help. I've made no noticeable progress in the past year and a half on gear. Any tips from anyone?
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>>50442740
EQ is probably your best bet. Dry and low androgenic rating.
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>>50441381
What’s wrong with amps?
I like running sust 250 as a test base since It’s pharm grade and never had any issues even with ood boxes.
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>>50435702
not technically a question relating to fitness, but have any of you frauders seen any changes in your facial structure while on juice?
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>>50442878
holy shit thats pricey
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>>50440196

Kid, you are putting hormones in your butthole. What is supposed to happen? Obviously you going to put on muscle no matters what.
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>>50442749
crap gear? not eating anything but candy? not actually going to the gym?
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>>50443018
Gear is reputable source, diet is pretty solid 1.25-1.75g/lb, I work out hard usually 4 or 5 times a week. I look “good” just not big I can’t commit to a bulk cause I end up getting fat every time. Last time I did high volume (I did GVT) I ended up covered in stretch marks maybe I’ll go back to that.
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>>50442558
No I am THAT guy and in my question I also asked for a cruise dose of 150mg Test.

>>50442592
Inject once a week, get tuberculin syringe, draw 0.4ml air in, push 0.2ml into the vial and pull back when the oil in the syringe reaches the line of the amount you want. Guaranteed 0 deadspace with this setup.
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>>50442749
You either have fake shit, aren't getting enough cals or have such dysmorphia you're huge and don't realize it
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>>50442878
Don't know the site but it is very pricey. If you just wanna be above average fake natty and pin trt doses a 30 dollar vial will last you 12-16 weeks.
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>>50442878
no fucking source talk you retard. enjoy your ban.
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>>50442740
>will eat at maintenance
retard
>I was holding a fuck load of water
take your ai retard
>avoid anything very androgenic [due to] receding hairline
not how it works retard, it's DHT.
>don't want to hold a lot of water
>npp
retard

>>50442967
no, that's never gonna happen and anything who claims to have seen changes is either bullshitting you or just got leaner and realized they have a jaw under all the fat

>>50443014
retard

>>50443113
>I can't commit to a bulk
>someone help
sounds like you know what the issue is, retard
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>>50443171
Shits real very reputable source, I’ve gotten fat from a bulk so that’s not it, honestly I’m small af I look good but way smaller than I wanna be. I feel like there is a key to this puzzle I’m missing. Maybe switch up my training or something, tired of asking Reddit and all the “science” 95% look like ass as per their progress threads.
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>>50443272
I’ve committed to a bulk last year I got fat as fuck albeit I couldn’t train legs cause of surgery so that probably had something to do with it.
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>>50442740
>I want to put on 10 pounds lean mass
>will eat at maintenance
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>>50443292
How hard it is to get fucking bloodwork done to check your actual test levels you fucking mong? This is the first thing you should do before asking any retarded questions. After you get your bloods results you will know what is your next step to resolve your problem.
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>>50443347
I get them checked when I’m cruising never on a blast, I’m in the military I don’t want that shit on my file to fuck me out of a pension if I ever get medically kicked out for an injury that they can attempt to blame on roids ie torn ligaments
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>>50443292
my honest guess is that you hopped on gear as a relative beginner and you never figured out how to train properly and now it's biting you in the ass. you can't have a perfect diet, perfect training and real gear and still not make process. the fact that you got fat on your previous bulk just tells me you don't have your nutrition as under control as you think you do and your comment saying you train "4 to 5 times" tells me your training isn't planned very well.
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>>50443436
It’s 4 or 5 cause I’m doing a 4 day 5/3/1 split with extra hypertrophy work I do a 5th most of the time for extra deadlift volume to get my deadlift up now that I can train legs again. You’re right on the diet to be honest the bulk wasn’t as controlled as it should’ve been after 3500-4000 calories I went full dirty bulk to get the cals in.
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>>50443427
so stop asking retarded questions and fuck off
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>>50443521
>4 day 5/3/1
Holy fuck nigger I found out part of your problem why the fuck are you doing that shitty Powerlifting program on gear
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>>50443802
Progressive overload, I use it for main lifts. Accessories are all bb style
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>>50443891

Don't listen to that guy. Strength and muscle mass go together, only a newfag would think other wise
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>>50443900
hahahahaha
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>>50443900
Lookin joocy senpai, what do you do for arms?
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>>50443977
not him
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>>50441227
Just slide into the dms and we can arrange something
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Don't you hate it fellas when they leave needles laying around in the gym sauna. It is quite unsanitary
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>>50444755

First of all. Who pins at the gym?
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>>50444774
Better question. Who saunas at the gym?
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>>50436633
I'm doing the same thing this guy is, and just learned what I wanted to know. I'm at week 3 and I'm making progress, but I wasn't sure if it was just me eating a lot and trainign hard because I wasn't feeling the "magic" that some people talk about. It there anything I can do to bump up the results? Other than the fact that I'm going for 15 weeks?
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how can i maintain dick gains when im off mast?
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>>50439859
Anyone knowledgeable about this please?
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>>50445239
we're not your doctor, dude. that's what he's there for. ask him about your anemia.

your prolactin is fine.
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>>50444928
Viagra and Cialis 24/7
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>>50444813
Boomers and homosexuals who like starring at people's dicks in the sauna
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>>50444847
can you change a cycle 3 weeks in?
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>>50435702
Hey manlet roiders, how does it feel that I mogg all of you as a natty after just 3 years of lifting?
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>>50445828
t. 6'5 natty with 21 inch arms
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>>50445828
no responses basically means that I mogged all of you offline. Such is the life of Chad.
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>>50445828
Mirin hard bro. Routine?
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>>50445892
>>50445828
I do arms twice a week. 80lbs dbcurls coupled with 120lbs barbell curls.
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>>50445828
fucking fraud i bet your pinning
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>>50445828
>>50445916
You're a copelet coping hard at my top tier natty physique.
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>>50445828
Oh look, I also mogg roiding photoshoplet David Laid. Double mogg with heightmaxx. Triple gains with facemaxx.
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>>50445828
It's hard to believe you're natty
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>>50445828
Wtf, no way this is natty u fucker, you have to be juicy
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>>50445977
>>50445964
100% natty with a functioning dick as well. Feeling mogged yet, low T pinners?
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>>50445828
coping manlets can't respond since i BTFO all of them with my glory.
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>>50439859
No fuckin clue mate. I became anemic on tren test and var. my hematocrit went DOWN somehow too. Haven’t roided since after that cycle
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>>50446017
t. coping incel.
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>>50440677
No you fucking idiots. Roiding manlets only chime in when it's time to SUCK DICK
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>>50444774
Only pussy betas with no dick.
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>>50445828
Hourly reminder that I still MOGG all of you
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tren/trt test/anavar/eca or tren/trt test/albuterol/eca or both for cutting / recomp?
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page10
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I have a question for the most advanced users ITT.

What would you guess has been Jeff Seid’s PED program to achieve pic related (205lbs 6’).

1. Assuming he’s on gear for life (blast/cruise), what would you say he stacks in your opinion for blasting/cruising? And for how long?

2. Muscle insertions aside, how long would it take an average lifter to get to that muscle mass to BF ratio?
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>>50448166
this is a stupid post
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>>50448210
Why
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>>50448218

Not him, but probably because the dude is blasting everything in sight (tren, mast, test, orals, etc) but using grams and grams of gear
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>>50448241
Are you seriously saying you need that much to look like that? I know he’s an IFBB Pro but he isn’t THAT big come on now
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Hey guys, does a very delayed orgasm (that felt pretty good), sound like high or low e2?
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>>50448267

yes and this is factual, anyone who has ran gear knows this as well.

> also 30 pounds away from Arnold in his prime, while being 2 inches shorter and at a lower bodyfat year around

delusional andy should be your trip name
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>>50448166
hes probably spending almost $10k a month on gear
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Femanon here. Getting ready to start my first cycle, I know anavar is preferred but is it possible to run a successful bulk on winstrol if you're a chick? Source only sells winny.
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>>50448908
Depends on how big you like your clit and how stubbly you like your chin
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>>50448969
I know Var is less severe, but if I'm only running 5mg every other day of winny it wouldn't be that bad right?
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>>50448908
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt5qWylRDA0

It's about twice as androgenic as anavar.
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>>50449037
Ty, I'll give it a look.
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let's say i found a crooked online doctor to prescribe me TRT, like 100-200 mg of test c per week. i have low-normal test as it is, about 480 ng/dl. is trt even worth it? i'm too much of a pussy to blast and cruise. i just want to gain some more muscle because i still look like shit after ~20 months of lifting and eating without steroids.
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>>50449143

what's your age? Also those "online TRT" places are fucking expensive and therefore not worth because even raw test powder is super pure these days and never under dosed.
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>>50449143
Where do you live anon? A lot of places have pop up TRT clinics that are way cheaper and "legal"
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>>50449351
i'm 30 years old. the one i found charges $500-700 for the consultation and first-round blood work, then $100-120/month for test + ai + hcg (can only be purchased through them as they won't transfer the prescription from their state my state) and bloodwork once every 6 months. i've considered doing UGL but i don't like the legal risks. i also want the support of an MD if my shit goes sideways for one reason or another. i've actually ordered UGL test before but pussied out and threw it away.

>>50449382
near philadelphia. i've done some research for local doctors that prescribe testosterone. the general consensus is that there aren't very many, and the ones that do prescribe it are a pain in the ass to deal with and considerably more expensive than the online clinic i found.
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>>50448908
aside from anavar, sdrol or primo are your only options
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>>50449533
>sdrol
Methasterone?

And I thought winstrol was right behind Var with popular roids among girls? When did that change?
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>>50449546
you're getting trolled
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>>50449502

Hmm in the case I think it's worth it for you. You're 30 years old with low T, and it's sure as hell not going to get better from here on out. I think you'll experience more than just slight LBM gains, it will improve your energy, mood, and sexual life. Those 3 alone will benefit your quality of life.
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I'm on a test only cycle, 2nd week. read the responses to the other guy who is doing basiclly the same thing. I found a source where I can get other gear in about a week. I'm thinking about adding something else. This is my first cycle, what should I get? I'm thinking winstrol for the next 5 weeks, but I don't know how plopping it in the middle of things will effect me. I know orals are used to "kickstart" but I don't know if using it in the aftermath will work ( I know it'll work, but I don't know if side effects will be worse)
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>first week gain 10 lbs
>second week gain 5 lbs
>third week gain 0 lbs

AGHH DBOL WHY?
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hunger on MK is REEEAALLL
you dont get this on low dose GH
but it sure beats Sub q slin pins every day
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>>50450111
>hunger on MK is REEEAALLL
This should go away after a few days anon
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>>50449967
You’re bulking right? Dbol. Tbol if you’re a pussy or var if you have the cash.
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>>50446897
blease respond
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>>50446897
>trt test
Why?

>eca
Kinda a meme. Consider DNP

>albuterol
See above

>var
Thumbsup.jpg
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>>50450308
holy shit never answer anyone's questions ever again
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>>50450152
I already have an AI, Do I need anything else?
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>>50449967
Literally why did you and your three brain cells decide that winny is what you need in the MIDDLE of a bulk? Dear Lorde end yourself
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>>50445828

Lmao you look like shit
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>>50445828
where the fuck did they hide your delts my man
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>>50450404
because I ask like to ask questions from people who know more than me.

also its still mostly at the beginning.
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AZUSA IS A SLUT AND A SHIT-TIER WAIFU NO ONE WOULD EVER LOVE HER, CERTAINLY NOT COME TO DEFEND HER HONOR

(jerry we're looking for you for the new discord, please respond)
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>>50448985
Would you really want to run something that can cause permanent changes in your body even at a low dose?
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>>50448908
please ignore these literal retards. although var is ideal, winnie is still an option

however var is very easy to source and you should easily be able to find even a domestic source in most places for legit var; google for roid forums with source reviews to find more sources

>https://pastebin.com/RwY7Z0iW
this should be a good start on info for you. I highly recommend getting the heck away from this thread for beginner info otherwise

best of luck, anon

- t. female roider
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>>50450762
LONDON
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>>50450519
Post your friends tits you crack hoe
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>>50450762
Spit on my 20 year old pretty boy face pls u muppet. 5 hours away bb
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>>50450353
A bra for your new found bitch tits
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>>50451141
last I checked, that's what an AI is for
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>>50451226
Suck a hairy dick gyno boy
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>>50450762
Wow, women really WILL go to great lenghts to fuck each other over
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>>50450762
Stop transforming into a nigger
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>>50450496
>>50450506
21 inch arms cold (22 1/2 with a pump) basically destroys any roider out there. What were "Arnolds" arms at again? Eddie Hall posted a measly 21 inch with fatceps as well. I'm at 10% bf. Sit down kid.


PS: Doing 100lbs dbcurls for reps with perfect form
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>>50452251
10/10 b8
Would consume off a hook again
A* Ebayer
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>>50452308
Gimme rimmy
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>>50452342
Spread dem glutes JM style bbi
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>>50452342
>>50452434
Hentai and CCFC sextape when?
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>>50452692
Soon, but estp won't get a copy
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For my bulk I just add a tray of fresh oven baked cookies to my diet. Ends up a 750 surplus with a glass of milk.
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>>50445916
>>50445932

samefag
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So I started doing steroids 4 weeks ago and guys, I’m thinking that I was a low test guy. My semen is getting stronger after every cum. My back acne is almost gone and I can train every day literally without sore.

Can’t wait till making real gains after 3 more weeks.
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What does everyone think of test and boldenone for a first cycle ended with winny to lean out?
I'm thinking 12 weeks 500mg test E and 250mg boldenone a week and the last 4-6 weeks to help lean out from everything else
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>>50454190
You need to run test e a bit longer
Go for like 15 weeks at least
Eq is a test based compound so you shouldn't have that many problems with it but eq cycles need to be on the longer end of the spectrum
So let's say your cycle is between 15-20 weeks instead
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>>50454170
Those are all placebo as steroids have the exact opposite effect you’re reporting.
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>>50454259
Makes sense, I'd have 3 bottles of test E 250mg/ml so I might as well use it all, would the winny at the end help lean out and get back to the 12-15% bf I'm at currently and I was planning in running 250mg/ml for 10 week since I don't wanna buy more bottles and waste it, so I'm thinking I'd do
> 15 weeks test E 500mg
> week1-10 week boldenone 250mg
> week 10-15 10mg 4x daily
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>>50454569
Ask ccfc for more info but test e and eq gains should be pretty lean and dry
Eq can be run at higher doses since it aromatises way less than test so up it for something like 250mg E 3.5D
Run Eq till week 15 too
At that dosage your cycle will be exactly 15 weeks
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>>50454666
I assume it would be safe to mix the 250 eq and the 250 test together in a 3ml syringe? Or would the mix cause more pip? I'm just hoping so because less needles seems better to me
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>>50452251
yeah but where the fuck are your deltoids my dude
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>>50454805
Yeah first pull the test then the eq and try not to let them mix
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>>50454805
Less pinning is always better, should probably work, just be careful
And often pip is because the carrier oil is absorbed too quickly, so if both of your compounds are from a source that uses good oils that shit won't happen
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Give me a single reason why anyone would eat estrogen pills (clomid) to increase your own test production for pct rather than kick-starting it with hCG.
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>>50455482
Would front loading help while using eq and test due to the long esters? Is there any reason to not do it for my first cycle?
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>>50455707
I have no idea for front loading but probably shouldn't do it for the first cycle
As for eq in the first cycle, there's the problem of not being able to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
It is test based so in all likelihood you probably won't have problems with it when you don't react badly to test.
A lot of people at fraud don't like it that much though.
You also need to probably donate blood at some point during the cycle.
I quote ccfc the based rimmy helper and the Reddit wiki:
"Keep it simple"
The rest is up to you
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>>50449143
480ng/dl is hardly low-normal lmao
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>>50455527
that's not what clomid is you fucking retard
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>>50455527
>estrogen pills (clomid)
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>>50445828
where are your front and rear delts? pls train properly you look shit
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>>50455941
>>50456029
Clomid is a synthetic estrogen that also works as an anti estrogen because its weakness and its property of binding to the estrogenic receptors. Literally a estrogen pill.
Do your research you larping retards, them come back and answer my original question. Fuck.
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>>50456495
you're a fucking moron get out of my thread and get a basic understanding of the hpta
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>>50456556
Nice basis for your rebut you mouth breathing larp. Nothing I said was wrong. Gtfo.
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>>50456495
>Clomid is a synthetic estrogen
no, it's not. source this retarded claim immediately.
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>>50456495
clomid is a SERM(selective estrogen receptor modulator) chemically it looks nothing like estrogens and it only binds and makes its effects in certain tissues types like blocking the ER in hypothalamus but no effects in other tissues.

"Clomifene is a nonsteroidal SERM that inhibits estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus, inhibiting negative feedback of estrogen on gonadotropin release, leading to up-regulation of the hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal axis."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clomifene#Pharmacology
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page10
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>>50454805
Mixing in the same syringe is fine even with different carrier oils. You are wasting your time with 250mg EQ you will notice nothing. It takes 6 weeks to even enter your system and 400-600 mg is considered a low dose.
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>>50455707
I frontloaded EQ my first time using it after the first injection, just to be safe and check reactions first. Good EQ has almost zero PIP. I did 400mg week 1, 800 MG week 2/3.
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whats the best stack for pure strenght?
orals?
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>>50455707
Not the best idea to do it your first cycle though. Dosing AI and learning to deal with side effects and how you feel is what the first cycle is all about. Get some Cylisalic* acid and Keto shampoo if you have not already. It's one of the most important things to have.
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>>50454190
I think it’s a pile of poopoo
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>>50454190
16 weeks test e 500mg and go keto during pct, bam leaner

but if you're a legit fatty looking to lose weight don't do anything or you'll get the moobs and mooner-face like >>50454259
hentai has
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>>50454190
Running 3 compounds for your first cycle is retarded AF.
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>>50459420
Lmao keto, calm down
What you want op is a heroin binge straight after cycle

>>50459461
I know, 6 compounds minimum, all 19nor or 17aa, run at a gram minimum
Ai is a meme and so are bloods
You’ll do fine op, if your organs hurt that means you’re making it
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>>50458998
Do you care about wait gain? If yes, halo or mtren
If no, SDrol or DBol + Halo
If you want to ran it for longer than a few weeks ADrol+DBol is surprisingly effective and you can run it for a while
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>>50458998
>>50459683
Don’t listen to anon, anon
What you want is a positive attitude
That what really makes us stronger
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>>50459650
>What you want op is a heroin binge straight after cycle

lmao you think they can handle my routine? this is not amateur hour, CCFC

>>50459699
~~~JUST B URSELF~~~
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Guys Im preparing my next cycle, it is going to be 12 weeks if test. Where i will both use test-e and p (week 1-2 and 10-12). Also planning a kickstart with dbol 10mg for 4 weeks. Will be running aromasin from dat one.

What Im concerned about is bloat. I know it will be unavoidable with dbol, but how long will the bloat stay after i stop the dbol? Dont want to risk being a bloated piece og shit with painful pumps through the whole cycle
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>>50459827
Why 12?
Why 10mg?
Why asin day one?
Why bloat?
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>>50460008
>all of these questions

WHY USE BOTH TEST E AND P
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>>50460008
I have everything under control, it is Just that the dbol is new waters for me. So Will the bloat from dbol stick? And for how long?
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>>50459827
Take a borderline lethal dose of tren and report back.
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>>50460134
Usually when people say that it means they don’t have a clue what they are doing.
Dbol bloat is controllable with good E2 management, dietary sodium restriction, adequate hydration and not being fat already.
Any water or glycogen increase from dbol will subside after a couple days of cessation.

Dbol shines at 20-60mg
10 is a bit low to bother with.
100mg will hurt

>>50460221
I know what my next stack will be
YOTG
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>>50460348
Cheers man all i needed to know. Always nice to know you can bail the fuck out when experementing with new compunds. Going to start 10mg and taper up. Back, shin and shoulder pumps sucks so god damn much
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>>50460400
Bail or push through, sometimes it does pick up
Taurine, potassium and a small amount of sodium for pumps, plus plenty of water, eases 99% of it
Rarely get them now on 100 adrol + 40 dbol
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>>50460400
dbol shin pumps fucking murdered me. 2nd worst site for me behind it being gyno in a pill and fucking my aromatization for literally a year.
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>>50460427
>site
side
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>>50460416
Heard about taurine and going to try that out. Salt intake always stays low. Cant wait to get back on the horse. Finished pct today and already planning my next ride in august.

>>50460427
Yeah shin pumps are the definitive worst. The pain is crippling. Luckly Im not prone to gyno, ran my last cycle without ai pretty much. Not going to do that again though lmao. I probably pissed once a day while gulping down like 3l water a day
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>>50460536
It’s so cheap there’s no reason not to run it year around
Sure there was a nice NCBI on it for heart health too
Should just always stay on the roided horse, it’s the best
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broke up with my gr of 3 years should I crash estrogen to numb the pain
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>>50435702
Why in the FUCK would anyone ever pin glutes?
>The needle for delt injections is practically invisible and feels like nothing.
>Can clearly see where you are pinning and do not need to contort your body.
>Little to no chance of hitting an artery or nerve. I've squirted high pressure blood from my ass cheek before.
>And best of all NO PIP.
Glutes feel like they just took a steel toe boot at maximum velocity after being speared by that giant fucking needle.

I'll never pin anything but delts ever again. If you recommend beginners start with glutes you are a piece of shit. Fuck You.
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>>50461541
Glutes are utterly painless how do you fuck up so bad lmfao
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>>50460653

What? Bro that would even be worst, on crashed e2 I was obsessing over her everyday, and a broken hearted achy faggot with fucked up joints. never again
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>>50461701
and high e2 I would just cry
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Anadrol is fucking incredible. I run low dose cycles so I’m kickstarting with just 25mg and after a week people at work are making comments, probably out on 5-10 lbs of glycogen.
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>>50442540
Can I get a discord link?
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>>50435702
>reddit link
Yeah, fuck off.
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Anger is the best preworkout
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>>50462012
>Anadrol

Can someone /redpill/ me on Anadrol? It's like the one oral I don't know to much about. How does it compare to something like dbol?
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>>50462417
Puts on size like dbol but doesn’t aromatize.
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250 test 300 eq 900 tren weekly 75mcg t3 daily. will i finally find the magic of eating whatever and getting shredded. i hope this works, i'm too poor for gh

>tfw i went 4 1/2 months without visiting 4chan
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>>50462549

oh shit. any down sides? I'm about to do a 750mg test e and 600mg deca cycle with an oral. I was going to 50mg dbol, but now I'm going to research Anadrol
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>>50462563
Some bloat but not nearly as bad as dbol, more liver toxic so run 500-1000mg TUDCA, and some people get gyno from it despite it being a DHT and not aromatizing. I always run nolva with it just in case, ralox would work too. But just depends if you’re susceptible or not.
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>>50462658

noted, thanks for the reply.

On another question, I got my gyno removed 2 years ago from a surgeon. Is it possible to even get gyno again? (It was AAS caused gyno)
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>>50462784
no, unless the original doctor didn't remove all the tissue.

blast until you're heart explodes out your nipples and gives you a new form of gyno thought impossible
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>>50459420
Oi you cheap fuckin hoe, now you're never getting my face reveal
Not even the dick reveal
Was about to post a before and after for my cycle but there's no chance you getting that now
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will gh make my clavicles longer or should i just kill myself?
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>>50462784
Nope unless he was a retard and didn’t remove the whole gland. You can stack adrol and dbol yknow.
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>>50461651
You must be immune to ass pain after years of pounding
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>bought another cycle instead of paying off my credit cards again
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>>50463196
Is that you chem?
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What would be a hair-safe, no-shedding safe cycles?
Let's say person starts with finisteride, minox for prevention just in case.
Test 500mg + Deca 400mg (what about fin+deca? Will that make the hair to fall out?)
Test 1g
Test 250mg + Deca 600mg
Test 500mg + Superdrol 20mg/day
Test 250mg + 400 Tren E
Test 125mg + 200 Tren E + 400 Deca

How much nizoral helps with Tren acne?
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>>50463795
anything DHT is non safe hair cycle m8
Including Test.

although TRT test and an oral is probably the best, but if you're prone you're fucked anyways
fin doesnt get enough of the DHT
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>>50463834
Fuckyity fuck then
Should have gone the duta route... And I already got the damn fin

I am not shedding in crazy amounts but I dont want to shed anything
Superdrol cycles will wreck everyting but at least my friggin hair will remain

Should I supplement Zinc as well? Helps with dht (but not genetics, of course)
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>>50463834
Duta will kill the DHT heaps better but if you're really worried about hair, i use Duta,but i also supplement with Mast's meme stack,
Pumpkin seed oil(tablets), Saw palmetto(tablets), biotin, and nizoral shampoo 2 times a week.
Also Minox, but i never really blast only trt these days
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>>50463904
didnt finish that - but if you really are worried about hair, dont use tren mast or any high rated DHT derivative, they all have a rating on the reddit wiki, so check there for the least hair damaging
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>>50462549
Different anon here. Dbol gives me gyno hardcore but I didn't run nolva or a last time I defs regret it. I'm smol trying to get big what's better sdrol or anadrol. Need to know ordering soon.
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Guess who is off surgeries and getting swole again (me)
500lb dl for the first time in 4 years today :)
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>>50460081
Why listen to a heroin using muppet
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>>50464133
Ment
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I'm in week 3 of my 500mg Test E cycle and have gained only 1kg yet (but I could do this as a natty)
Is my gear bunk or am impatient?
The gear brand has a verification code which was legit and everyone says they have good experience with it.
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>>50464702
3 weeks is barely getting started.
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>>50466097
So around what time should I expect to see weight changes?
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>>50466139
Just eat a lot of fucking food and lift hard. It's your first cycle.
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>>50466139

8 week mate
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>>50464133
Adrol if you want size, sdrol is for once you’re already shredded.
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>>50464702
Test E doesn’t even saturate until 4-6 weeks brainlet. And like anon said >>50466168 steroids won’t put on size if you don’t eat, it’s physically impossible for them to generate mass if they don’t have the calories to do so. It’s like upgrading your car’s engine but not putting any gas in it.

Don’t be a retard.
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Yo. So I'm gonna' do some DBOL (because I'm a pussy) because I'm gyming for 8 years or so and I'm bored of how I look. I go ED for ~2 hours doing PPL and I look merely "okay" and it's been that way for way too long. I'm sick of that noise. I'm 27 and realised I've only got another ~50 years or so if I'm lucky. Don't wanna' spend that dwelling on how I could have looked...

So I take 20MG DBOL in AM and PM ED for 6-7 weeks. Supplement that with some Liv 52. Take 0.5MG of Anastrozole while on-cycle and then Tamoxifen 40MG ED for 10D and then 20MG ED for 10D when off-cycle.

This is only gonna' be a one-off. I don't plan on doing this long-term. Just want to make some gains again and see whether I can keep some of them.

I guess my question is whether I should also be taking Tamoxifen while on-cycle (I read somewhere 40MG ED) or whether the Anastrozole is enough (which I also read)?

Thanks bros.
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>>50467354
Read reddit wiki in full
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>>50467354
Stop being afraid of needles.
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>>50467492
I'm 99% gonna' do this anyway so I was more looking for an answer on the Tamoxifen question on whether I should be taking alongside Anastrozole or whether it's for PCT alone.
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>>50467826
Dbol suppresses your natural testosterone so enjoy feeling like shit for months and losing whatever gains (water) you make kiddo.
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>>50467851
Will do. Think I'm gonna' do the Anastrozole and then Tamoxifen for PCT. Let's see what happens...
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>>50467911
Dumb boomer detected.
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>>50467911
>claims to have read the wiki
>is doing an oral only cycle
>doesn’t understand basic AI or PCT

make sure to post your titties in 4-6 weeks bro ;)
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>>50467826
> I know better than you and I'm gonna do this stupid thing, just help me do the stupid thing please
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>>50469376
You can only help people so far anon
We will have to wait a couple weeks until he is back
>why do I have sexy C cup tiddies
>where did my gains go
>why do I look so bloated and soft
>why do I have no energy or boners
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If I refeed one day and drank alcohol the days after would I lose glycogen quickly assuming I remain low carb on the aforementioned days?
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god I wish I had a home gym
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>>50470793
you're on roids AND have social anxiety?

choose a struggle lmao
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>>50470966
I don't have social anxiety, I just hate some people at the gym.
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>>50470793
sometimes I do too, sometimes I don't. I like the people watching aspect (and the hot girls) of going to the gym but goddamn do I hate having to wait for a rack or bench. absolutely infuriating having to stand there waiting, doing nothing or having to fuck up my exercice order and thus ruining progression on more intensive/important lifts.
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>>50470793
Is this a fucking pitch black reference?
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>>50470793
>tfw small gym at a place I used to work
>absolutely free
>almost always empty
>good friends with the people that work out ther when it's not empty
>TV with YouTube so I can blast any music I like without people complaining or using earphones
>airco at 16 degrees Celsius and ice cold water dispenser

Is this making it?
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>week 2 of first cycle in the books
>humping the bed on a daily basis
>staring down the thick chicks at the gym
Tell me this is just the beginning lads, I want more, turn me into a giant angery erection
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>>50473023
Wait until you do tren
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4 weeks into test e, gonna run 600mg for 20 weeks. I'll get bloods done around week 15. If everything goes well I'm gonna blast another 15 weeks but this time with tren. Cruising is for niggers.
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>>50473217
Didnt make me more horny, just made me not give a shit about rejections. I never get le sex drive on cycle, though my natural drive is pretty high
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>>50473217
Can't wait, I want to be an unstoppable sex machine.
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>>50473023
try test tren mast proviron mtren and caber
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If you have essentially unlimited deca, test, and mast but only those what kind of cycle would you do? Goal is to look like a freak in mid August so it would need to be a bulk then cut. or mini cut, bulk, mini cut. Or recomp all the way there.
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>>50473545
ignoring your timeframe because it depends on your starting point and could be unrealistic

>heavy test/deca bulk
>heavy cut on cruise (just test, EC stack, etc)
>hopefully you're lean (but depleted and flat) around here
>test/mast slow/lean bulk (possibly even maintenance if you're happy with where you are, which is doubtful)
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>be me
>diagnosed with non-hodgkins lymphoma
>diagnosed with thymoma
>diagnosed with non-invasive adenocarcinoma
>diagnosed with basal cell carcinoma
>Immunoglobulin deficient
>Rapid development of lipomas all over trunk

I'm not a gambling man but if I was I'd put some hard money down on the year or two of the rainbow of research peptides I was on...
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>>50473217
Ooof

>>50473545
Urm all of them at huge doses for the maximum amount of time
YOTG

>>50473645
Have you tried just being yourself?
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>>50473237
Rate my plan ccfc
>>50473684
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>>50473605
I actually like that a lot, I am going balls to the wall cause I am calling this my last 'real' bulk. I am happy with how I look currently I want like a bit of thickness on the arms maybe like a quarter inch/half inch max more honestly and some back size/ strength so my row and deadlift make sense relative to my bench.
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>>50473684
1G/1G/1G YOU ONLY TRAIN GUNS
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Foreman at work mentions to me he is about to start his cycle soon, I ask him about his lifts
No OHP, no deadlift, 225 squat 240 bench.
Claims Sustanon250 has no side effects so there is no problem with using it.
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>>50473839
no ohp is fuckin odd. I understand deadlift and squats, those are usually the first two movements to go (and strangely this guy squats, although at a ridiculous bench:squat ratio)... but no ohp?
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bros will I keep all muscle mass at a very low calorie intake cutting on 500mg test and 50mg/day var?
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>>50473436
Hell yeah I will brother, might even just chuck all that shit on the latter half of this cycle
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>>50473839
>>50473935
Even rippetits is /redpill/ed enough to stop recommending OHP for beginners. Purely egotistical lift with unironically little cross over to function OR aesthetics.
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>>50474105
I haven't been keeping up with rippetoe or ss but I very much doubt the ohp is gone from The Program™

it's one of the best delt exercise there is tbH
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>>50474105
DB raises have made my shoulders look juicy tho..
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>>50474105
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>>50473645
Oh no, that shit sucks
List the peptides?
Mt2/gh in that list?
Good luck
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>>50474001
anyone?
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>>50455786
i'm at the low end of the normal range on my test results.
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>>50474501
yes and that's even way too much gear for a heavy cut.
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>>50474501
You could go down to like 150-200mg you'll be fine m9. Var is good for reassurance since its anti-catabolic.
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>>50474501
What's your previous cycle experience? I don't think I would be able to stop stuffing my face on 500 test/week. Other anons are right, only need about 150-250 to maintain suprahuman levels of muscle.
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>>50475344
I've done several cycles before. I was just gonna run var at the beginning of this one for a short but hard cut. It's a struggle not to eat but I think I got it under control
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>>50475389
Look you'll probably keep 98.7% of your mass on 125 mg test + 50 mg var / week, keep your lipids in check, not feel as hungry, not use so much gear (inb4 cheap), etc.
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>>50475474
Well I'm about a week in so I guess I can drop to 125 or 250 for now and up it in a few weeks.
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>>50475474
Not that anon but would cutting with 150mg test weekly and like 25mg winny ed be a good way to cut?
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>>50437949
You're an idiot. Test E kicks in straight away and then slowly diminishes over the next 14 days.
READ A FUCKING BOOK OR STOP POSTING
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>>50475539
Seriously where does did this le 8 week saturation time meme come from. Within 24 hours of pinning your HPTA axis is reacting (aka suprahuman levels of test), and steroidcalc, problems it has, shows 90% peak level by pin #4.
>>50475522
Never used winny, but I think consensus is that it only shines once you're already lean (<8-11%). CCFC or someone else knowledgeable, how would you tier the ways to cut? Does the following make sense?
>(S tier) Test + Tren + Mast (+ winny if going to a show)
>(A tier) Test + Tren
>(Meme tier) Test + Var or proviron
>(Roiding for this) Test
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>>50475539
you don't understand saturation times

>>50475936
about 3-4 weeks for 100% assuming 2 pins a week and no frontloading
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>>50475906
Kick it until it stays down
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>>50445828
No front delts
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>>50475539
imagine not understanding esters, half lives or saturation times all in one post and trying to tell people to "read a book"
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>>50473839
Dollars to doughnuts, he's gonna take 1mL per week, eat like shit, and not use any PCT.

>>50475906
Have you tried putting it in a woman?
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>>50473714
>super unsensible and bordering careless
I love it anon, fuck the bloods at week 15 tho, I mean largely what difference will it make at that point lmao
How much tren?
I’ve been blasting since August, haven’t got bloods and donated once
Is this smart? No it’s super brainlet
And I dead? Only inside

>>50473741
Yeahhhh buddy

>>50475936
>knowledgeable
Fuck that’s me out then.
Winny is nice for strength in general if it doesn’t rape your joints
I think with cutting its finding the compounds that you enjoy running the most, you’re going to be feeling small and shit, eating less and hating life, might as well run the compounds you feel the best on
Some people cut on only test but abuse t3,dnp and phed, id rather run higher gear and lower food but each to their own
Personally I use A tier, and then an oral of choice, usually adrol or dbol (odd choice you say, I love the fullness and feeling and you can keep water eight down easily on a cut)



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