I'm in college and the amount of guys with fucked up hairlines that go backwards is really sad. Lots of guys wear caps to cover their hairline up or their shitty haircut
>>49561520Where are you from? They don't in most countries.
>>49561547AmericaThe state of Georgia to be specific
>>49561547Fuck off or roll for pushups
>>49561550Americans have cuck genes. >>49561551No.
>>49561520there's a mutation where DHT acts as a "stop growing" signal for your hair follicles, so as soon as DHT levels get high enough at the very end of endocrine puberty (mid 20s to early thirties) they go bald.
>>49561520That’s the age when it starts to go. It’s probably gonna happen to you too
>>49561636Old theory.>>49561642Most men start to go bald after 60 except if you are from Singapore.
>>49561587Lol, that explains why americans are obssessed about going bald and getting mad at any haircut that isnt a crew cut or buzzcut
>>49561692not a theory faggot
>>49561708Yes, it is. It has been “replaced” and a theory has a different meaning in science, brainlet.
>>49561727wow you're retarded
>>49561736>no uNot an argument.
>>49561520its normal, natural, and yeah its a sign of aging, but its not worth beating yourself up over
>>49561816Not a sign of aging, coper, and not normal.
>>49561820o wow different people
>>49561692>Most men start to go bald after 60Maybe if you're nigger or something. Half of my gym is balding
Have there been any studies on correlation to wearing hats and going bald?
>>49561820he looks like a shitskin tbqh
>>49561829If it were a sign of aging, like wrinkles, every man would go bald.>>49561835Actually men of all nationalites do, except if you are from Singapore or some cucked European countrie.
Recent studies show that balding, much like weak jawlines are more common in industrialized nations due to mouthbreathing and soft mushy food. Because weak face muscles cause the scalp muscles to tense up (imagine anterior pelvic tilt on your head) and over time this ends up weakening the hair follicles and causing hairloss:https://tmdocclusion.com/2018/07/14/more-on-hair-loss/ This is a much more coherent explanation than the outdated elevated DHT theory (lowering DHT can solve a bit of the hairloss in a roundabout way... but you're fucking with your body's chemicals to achieve this). It makes much more sense because elevated DHT and by extension testosterone in general leads to manly and youthful traits... aggression, big dick, muscle mass, low fat... all of these are identified as such. While being bald is seen as wimpy and old. I really wish assblasted chromedome loserheads would stop trying to bluepill balding men.
>>49561820imagine being able to mog people at the age of 60+. How lovely it would be.
>>49562012So what are some neck stretches I can do to promote healthy bloodflow to my galaea?
>>49562012This makes sense. The mouthbreathing menace just became exponentially worse.Still, I do believe test is related. Also, most people who grow beards earlier tend to get bald earlier too.
>>49561548Rolling for this
>>49561520>hit the gym for two years>read philosophy >see how shallow the majority are when it comes to respecting people based on looks alone >become right-wing >my left-wing friends don't want me around but are too weak to stop my best friend from inviting me anywayB^)
>>49561548You see me rollin
>>49561520did this man just learn to walk again? look at those thighs.
>>49561520bad diet.shit health.
>>49561520>that vice storyConservatives have work ethic and discipline. Surprise!
>>49562465Aww man im a ballsackian?
>>49561692>Most men start to go bald after 60Wrong. If someone's going to bald it'll be obvious before 30, undeniable by 40
>>49561548gimme somethin good
>>49561520Xenoestrogens in everything, just look at pictures of 30yo males 70 years ago, very few were balding
>>49562537It varies more than that, bruh. I'm 35. I didn't notice anything until a year ago. Now it's accelerating pretty quickly.Both my brothers went bald in their 20s, but my dad didn't really start going bald til he hit about 60, and in his mid 60s he still has a decent head of hair.
>>49562537>tfw I'll be 30 in 6 months, and had some light thinning two years ago on the left side when I was going through a really stressful time, but it has since grown back>tfw my mom's dad has most of his hair at 90, but my Dad went bald at 21, so I wasn't sure which way I would go>tfw almost safe
>>49561548Rolling for my role
>>49562012So why don't women go bald?
>>49561693>getting mad at any haircut that isnt a crew cut or buzzcutLiterally have never heard of this ever.
>>49562618>never heard of this everYou use this website, don't you?Have you ever been to any small town?
>>49562602Some do. But female hair follicles are different. That's what DHT depletion treatment does, it tries to estrogenize the hair follicles on the head.
>>49562012my dad and grand dad both bald were mouth breathers my dads brother my uncle isnt a mouth breather and has his hair but he has brown hair where my dad and grandad had blonde hair so idk
>>49562012My dad is missing most of his teeth, has absolute shit posture from a pinched nerve in his neck and I frequently hear him breath through his mouth. He's in his late 60's and still has a thick full head of hair.
>>49561520So people who are competent at something are more likely to not be retarded?
>tfw autistic fixation w baseball caps>now that I'm an adult people think I'm balding >n-no I just like this hatRolling
>>49561526rolln? what for
>>49561520a-are trucker hats ok?
>>49562012Considering this, why do many people go bald when they start doing roids?
>>49561693Yeah i don't know what this is. Who are you picturing getting mad?
>>49561520>Healthy and aggressive men tend to be right wingers
>>49562997half the population of /fit/, balding guys in the bible belt and rural areas
>>49562977Not that guy but roiding does cause mouthbreathing. Guys on serious gear even need c-paps to breathe.
>>49562997He's some AntiFa type who thinks shitposting hours on end to only confused responses is the height of trolling.
>>49563147Nah niggaLONG HAIR DONT CARE CREW, NW1 CREW
>>49562465>Silly doodle tattoosDropped
>>49561548Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'
>>49561520something changed in our generation. The process starts at a younger age now. Most of these men would have kept most of their hair until their 30s in the past, but now they start losing it in their mid teens.
>>49562012Some of this theory is based off of bad science. For starters they are operating under the assumption,>The incidence of Male Pattern Baldness increases with age. However, serum testosterone production declines with aging, together with lower serum DHTThis isn't actually true. In healthy men, T levels do not decline with age. Men who are older frequently are fat and out of shape and this is the cause of decline, not age.https://www.maturitas.org/article/S0378-5122(18)30424-9/fulltextAnd regardless even if this were true the decline in DHT levels would like be insignificant in terms of treating MPB. 5ar inhibitors like finasteride reduce DHT levels by 70% and this is far greater reduction than those seen in the average oldfag.
>>49563511Well, it's a theory. The truth, as it often is is probably somewhere in the middle.
>>49561520I think it's a combination of bad genes and alcohol.
>>49561548Based battle priest
>>49561548Rolling for samurai or death knight.
>>49561520>Why do a lot of men go bald quick?>ctrl + f "creatine">no resultsthe jews sure did a great job censoring this thread.
>drugs and alcohol lower T, lower DHT and raise estrogenWhy do drug addicts and alcoholics always have such great hair?
>>49561526based anti bait squad
>>49562537No, I have source, you don't.>>49562583Good for you.
>>49562671No, the follicles are the same. Stop spreading pseudoscience.
>>49561548Anything but diplomat
>>49562012There’s got to be genetic issues too since my friend’s entire male line is bald
>>49561548roll i guess
>>49561548rolando best mobile game
>>49561520lol his thighs
My finance Prof is like 5'5 and bald. Has confidence through the roof tho and married. Smart and successful as fuck, some things really don't matter.
>>49561548I got dreamwalker last time, what am I now?
>>49561520>tfw marxist-leninist natural bodybuilderwho else here /rare/
>>49561548pushup and this
>>49561548Already did push-ups but rolling
Bald men are gross. Seriously get hair plugs or sumthing.
>>49562618holy fuck I love this pic
>>49561526Aye sir. Decline pushup shill btw, if you aren't doing declines you're losing gravity gains
Can’t tell if I’m going bald anons :(
Dbl posting but 21 years old, am I balding or is it a mature hairline
>>49566676You're fine. Hair lookin thick bro
>>49566768Appreciated, I get worried because I haven’t had short hair for a long while
>>49561520I lose my hair super fast because I'm stressed all the time, because I was raped as a kid haha and I have permanent anxiety and I must numb with pills otherwise I can't function hahaaha how funnyplease god, if you exist then don't take my hair away, at least let me keep something don't take anything else away haha
>>49561526Roll, will do 2 sets
>>49566858Just, like, let the pain ride out anon
>>49564815A facist worked out today, did you?Me and my maoist friend work out 4 days a week together.
>>49566858i have social anxiety and depression and i am not balding but my dad was
>>49566874why don't we die
>>49567010I tend to pluck my own hair
>>49561883he's your genetic superior by every single metric
>>49561883Is this what true cope looks like
>>49567069yeah yours too you fucking faggot. you gay for him or something?
>>49562555how 2 avoid Xenoestrogens
>>49561693>posts this>everyone gettign madLol.It's protein shakes, btw. Look it up.
Turning 21 in a few months. On the plus side at least i have high T
>>49562583>>49562583>some light thinning two years ago on the left side when I was going through a really stressful timeHow long did it take for you to grow it back?
75% of men will see some hairloss before 30, and 25% see significant hairloss before 30it's just the way of the worldonce you start balding, you will notice hairline cope everywhere you look
>>49568797Just stop drinking protein shakes.https://www.dailystar.co.uk/fashion-beauty/531806/Hair-loss-bald-baldness-protein-shake-gym-weight-lifting
>>49561851No. That's an old wives tale. You go bald or you don't. My dad was bald by 40. I have at least presentable but noticeable thinning hair. My older brother didn't go bald at all but has my grandma's genes or something because he doesn't have our body type. ...that or my mom was good friends with the milk man. lol all these years and I never put my finger on it. He might not be my dad's son. The only one in the family with curly hair and this awful dumpy body type.
>>49562618There's a thread about it on the same page as this one.
My father was an actual man with a nice jaw, hardcore balding at 19.He's been glueing it for a long time now but still always wears a hat.I'm 21 and my hair looks like shit.When you're fucked, you're fucked.pic related is me in about a year
>>49562329>read philosophyAny tips on where to start? I started with Meditations, gonna read Letters from a Stoic next.
>>49563328Tattoos are fine. Her being engaged to a domestic abuser retard, tattooed solidly all over his entire body, including face, isn't.
>>49569452Just take saw palmetto, dumbass. Your hair follicles aren't dead, they're just too weak to grow through the skin. Getting rid of DHT in your scalp will cause them to grow again.
>>49562012>Imagine fucking up countless generations just because they couldn't stand their own baby crying and used a shitty plastic pacifier to make their lives easierIf this theory is true then the industrial revolution was the worst mistake in human history
>>49562012>DHT and by extension testosteroneYou can't into science, stop trying. Jesus Christ.
>>49569475I'm planning on getting a derma roller and all that DHT shampoo crapIf it doesn't take then I'll be sitting next to my father getting glued
>>49569698>derma rollerThat's not a meme?
>>49569702We'll see in a little while
>>49569721Huh. I'll get one too, I've got a weird bruise on my arm that's been there for a couple of weeks. Maybe I have jaundice or something.
>>49569769Derma rolling is legit for skin but I just don't know about hairI'll be going for the 1.5mm at the end of the month I'll wish you luck my friendHey, if it don't work it's only $20 and I can always use it esle where
>>49561520it's just genetics bro.If you've got MPB, you've got mpb, your follicles just deactivate over time, has nothing to do with diet, anything. I'm 21 and Nw2, moving into NW3 with pretty heavy thinning. so likely I'm headed for nw6+I've dealt with it relatively well, I was a very pretty boy growing up. It's been a complete and utter destruction of my identity. But also I'm stronger and more masculine now, so it doesn't matter as much. I've got long hair, it's not really not noticable It's definitely put my overall happiness at a -3. Only way to recover and have good hair after MPB - Transplant the temples, wear a hair piece over the topsad reality, 10-20k usd, and weekly shaving your head and hair piece maintenance.not ideal, but the best option there is. Not that you can't go bald, I have no issue with bald people, I think they can be signifigantly more attractive then haired guys, but for me personally being more of a pretty boy type hair is important.
>>49569475"Just take saw palmetto"you're a moron who doesn't understand hair loss.There is no solution, there's no fix. If your receptors are shutting off and closing down, your receptors are shutting off and closing down. There's no miracle pill that counter-acts your genetics.All of the symptom relief, all of the "hair thickening products", all of these things are fucking bullshit. Sure, they have a little 20-30% increase and slowing down of your balding rate, but guess what happens the second you stop taking them? all of that progress reverts. The only thing that "works" in finasteride, and that's all over the board in terms of results, it could not do fuck for you and doesn't for most men, it couldd make your dick stop working, or it could magically make all of your hair come back, completely depends on you individually.But yeah. The whole "Just take" this shows how incredibly naive, hopeful, and pathetic you are. It's laughable. You're fucked and you don't even know it yet. It's a chronic condition. Know what that means? It means you're going to slowly lose all of your hair from now to the day you die, and theres no stopping it. Buckle in
>>49570029"Nothing worked more me so now I'm bald and bitter so I think it won't work for anyone else"Stop with the blackpills, baldcel.
>>49569954>follicles just deactivate over timeNot how it works, kiddo.
>>49570029Someone's touchy. I'm not even balding.
Your not bald if you got a beard r-right guise?
>>49562727>right wing >not retarded Pick one
>>49566739considering how thick your hair is you probably have a mature hairline
>balding>shit facial hair and hardly any body hair I don't understand
>>49566676widow's peak forming, you are safe for a few years
>>49562555Estrogen actually reverses baldness to some degree.
>>49568797Holy shit, no. Most men suffer baldness after 60.
>>49562012This is really low iq, were people like Henry Cooper low T?
>>49569452>an actual man>hardcore balding at 19.The cope.
Am i balding guys
>>49567865>he thinks that hair loss is connected to high Tanon, I...
>>49569954>I think they can be signifigantly more attractive then haired guysCOPE.
>>49571781That's not a widows peak, dumb fag.
>>49566858I'm so sorry.
>>49572287I am sorry.
>>49566676you're safe! it looks good and thick too.
>>49569486ted pilled.The industrial revolution was horrendous.
>>49571781widow's peaks aren't formed, you're born with them
>>49572349At least I'm not a manlet or brainlet and decent face/frame. Can't have it all I guess
>>49561520I started balding at 15 very slowly and now at 23 I still have an alright hairline. It was a hard hurdle to overcome at that age being in school - I thought I was going to be completely bald by the end of school but luckily that didn't happen. I don't care anymore about it because I look alright with shaved hair and I focus more on my body. It still intrigues me why so many young guys go bald. My grandfather has the same recession pattern as me though he still has a great hairline in his 90's. My father is worse than him and I suspect me and my brother will be even worse. I don't think it is all genetic - perhaps the pattern is but the severity or rate of loss must be related to something in the diet of modern people. If I had to take a shot in the dark I would say there is a problem with halogens in the diet. By that I mean a lack of iodine in comparison to the great amounts of bromide, fluoride and chloride. The japanese never got hair loss and they are the biggest conusmers of iodine (some 100x our consumption and up to 300x a few generations ago) due to their consumption of iodine rich kelps. I say there is a reason for everything - we don't know what it is yet and so all we can say is genetics which I think is just a lazy answer.
>>49573915Maybe, just maybe, some shit genes get shittier each generation.
>>49573944Perhaps but then why didn't this happen a long time ago and why isn't everyone bald already? At the current rate that would be true.
The increased abstract psychological stress as opposed to physical and material stress brought on by industrial civilization has contributed to the balding and poor health of der amerifat.
>>49573958There are hundreds of genes involved in hair loss, so the absence of some would mean some get better hair genes and more of those genes would mean some get worse hair genes than their immediate family. Do you have anything to back up your claim that people are going bald younger?
>>49574086>Do you have anything to back up your claim that people are going bald younger?The men in my family are getting worse per generation. Look around - loads of young men are balding. Perhaps it has always been like this but it seems very prevalent at the moment.
>>49561708Every scientific proposition is a theory. There is no such thing as scientific facts
>>49574157I don't see it and there are sources that state that most men don't go bald after 60. Only exceptions to this are Singapore and some European countries like Germany and the Czech Republic.
>>49573958They said some. You may have shit genes but the ones that get passed down are the woman's who may or may not have them. You do realize there are many different combos of genes right
>>49574187Everything is based on probability
>>49574187Wrong. A theory in science is a working model with predictive capabilities. Theories are based on facts. Facts and laws are used to construct theories. Colloquially, the word theory is often used interchangeably with the word hypothesis, which doesn't do justice to the immense amount of evidence that goes in to the construction of a scientific theory.
>pretty good hair but don’t have the best hairline/slightly receding at temples>never really think about it before 4ch>check old photos>I’ve been like this since high school
>>49573391I can't say you're wrong.
>>49569462Pre-Socratics by Oxford World Classics, then Plato : Complete Works and Aristotle : Complete Works Vol. 1-2 after Plato. Good luck.
>>49562012This is actually pretty good theory. Only thing is that this doesn´t offer any solution besides relieving muscles basically from waist upwards.Of course there are still the basic treatments for the symptom of hair loss, not to the actual cause.
>>49561520vice salty af