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Welcome to /fraud/, the steroids and coping general.

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read the r/steroids wiki:

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

No source talk allowed.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use http://steroidcalc.com/
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should I beg my gf to peg me?
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>>49542647
don't you think that's kind of selfish and humiliating for your girlfriend?
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>>49542647
drop trip
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>>49542647
why beg? just make her do it
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I might need to up the dose to 1g first
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Is Yohinbine and all those other fancy burners with Yohinbine in it a meme? Am i better just buying some clen?
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>>49542794
here's the problem, you're looking for a quick fix. Yohimbine is not going to work unless you change your diet. You must change your diet and eat in a calorie deficit consistently across a period of 8-12 weeks to lose bodyfat. Yohimbine might help with this when taken fasted and combined with cardio, but it's only like +5% edge and totally negated without a consistent diet. If your diet isn't in check, Yohimbine won't do shit.
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>>49542794
All else being equal you should lose a little bit more lower abdominal fat if you take yohimbine and do fasted cardio
I'd try yohimbine and fasted cardio for a month or so before going for clen
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>>49542828
I am 190cm, 85kg. I don't really consider myself fat, i just want a little help with cutting. But if it is really 5%... aren't you underestimating it ?
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>>49542794
The other two are right. I took yohimbine while cutting from skinnyfat to skinny built. I’m bulking up and my lower ab veins are still very prominent.
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>>49542953
> cutting from skinny fat to skinny built

what the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>49542953
Kys
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All of you look like shit.
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>>49542993
What's wrong?
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>>49542993
That's literally the kind of recomp you're going to do, so what's the problem?
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>>49543059
skinnyfat = no muscle

I have muscle
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>>49543069
He turned his fat into muscle.
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hi, mk 677 in droper. Should i take it sublingual?
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Nano and Testify should continue where they ended yesterday. I need some entertaining on this depressing Sunday evening

>>49542647
She should do everything you desire, otherwise she doesn't truly love you
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>>49543126
That was mostly Trenboy vs Testify no?

Who will you place your bets on?
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>>49543027
imagine getting roasted this hard by arnold
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>>49543027
Muh inclusiveness or not, the anonymous poster is right.
Why isn't Retard Nobel a thing, I mean in the current year?
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>>49543170
but he's right, even though he probably doesn't even understand why
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>>49542647
Might as well get a tranny at this point.
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>>49543079
he went from skinny fat to skinny with the illusion of having muscle. this is how twinks are made.

>>49543126
why is your sunday depressing?
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>>49543196
Hes not, whos to say throwing javeling is more athletic than for example wheelchair racing? kek
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>>49543185
no he's not. otherwise we'd only have super heavyweight classes in combat sports because the lower weight classes would all get demolished by the shws. no more peewee leagues, no more college-level sports, no more female leagues...
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>>49543143
testiFy is scared go all out

>>49543220
Why do you think. I hate work and wage.cu.k life
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>>49543220
No man he turned his fat into muscle, sure he might not be huge with if you train hard enough and eat right you can do anything.
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>>49542794
Yohimbine works. It’s good shit but it’s not worth a shit unless your diet and exercise down perfect. And what sucks for me is I can’t use it anymore caused some severe hypertension. Fucking sucks
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>>49543251
lmao excellent post
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>>49543248
scared to go all out on what?

same dude. money isn’t shit if you are someone else’s wageslave.

>>49543251
yeah you’re right I am just assuming he went from being skinny fat to skinny w no muscle (because you can’t gain muscle while losing fat right?)

;)
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>>49543274
Sure you can, fuck the scientific evidence, all you need is the power of lifting good and eating smart.
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>>49543305
I love you nano
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>>49543226
I see what you mean but weight categories aside, it's about the Olympics, not college-level or other regional competitions.
There's nothing insane about elitism in the Olympics.

Also dex > str in a few niche sports.
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>>49542794
Quit being a pussy take DNP and snake fast one week alone and it will do more than yohinbine will months over end. Yohinbine works, clen works, but it's all shit if you just fast. DNP is next level though. It can be used safely too despite what they say.
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>>49543376
special olympics aren't the olympics. it's a completely different organization.
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>>49543305
man you really came a long way since the other day

glad we can agree
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>>49541913
why mong looks like he put on exclusively fat? I don't know how delusional he is but if he would cut right now he would look exactly the same as he did back in october
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>unless you're taking exogenous drugs, it's unlikely that you're going to build muscle while dieting

Taking what would allow that to happen? Unlike naturals, I thought steroids can only keep all the muscle we have while losing bodyfat. Now all of a sudden, we can even add a bit while in a prolonged deficit? I thought test and estrogen control was all you really needed.
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>>49543740
DAILY REMINDER THAT IT ONLY COUNTS AS A BLOWJOB IF IT'S STILL BREATHING
DAILY REMINDER THAT IT ONLY COUNTS AS A BLOWJOB IF IT'S STILL BREATHING
DAILY REMINDER THAT IT ONLY COUNTS AS A BLOWJOB IF IT'S STILL BREATHING
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>>49543757
take tren, you'll recomp, kind of building muscle and burning fat at the same time
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Last 18 days of me running 250mg tren, good idea or any point to up it to 350mg for the remainder?

that way ill be able to use it all up
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>>49543818
>take tren, you'll recomp, kind of building muscle and burning fat at the same time

what dose tren a / test e per week would you recommend?

>>49543847
250mg tren acetate per week? How long have you been on it? Did you run caber with it? Any side effects?
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>>49543818
For that to happen how should the diet look like?
High protein is a nobrainer but else?
Is it okay to keep the kcals under maintenance aswell?
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>>49543936
yes, soon 4 weeks now, no sides to speak of. Only occasionally night sweats (nothing really bad) and a little bit hotter than usually. Get a bit more annoyed in situations that would normally annoy me. other than that all good. running with 250mg test, anymore is just stupid because the tren will beat the test every single time in every single way. no caber
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>>49543936
>>49543942
50-75 mg Tren A ED for 8 weeks, high protein, high carb, low fat, no more than 250 mg test as a base
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>>49543740
go neck urself fagguette
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>>49543616
Ye he looks bad especially with muscle memory his muscles should be growing fast considering he was pretty built 4 years ago he looks like he got addicted to meth and he's been swallowing meccas to bulk
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>>49544272
Honestly just fuck off back to /b/ you cancerous edgelord.
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>>49543027
I find most "inclusive" politics to be inane bullshit, but in this case I agree with Arnold. The special Olympics allow disabled kids to strive for something athletically and be able to train and achieve something while building useful discipline and skill. It's certainly better than just letting them rot in a hospital somewhere. It's also entertaining as fuck to watch retards fight and race.
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>>49544469
honestly, I think they should be drowned in the river at birth, but if they must live, then I guess it's fine if they lift
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Had the worst bout tren cough 30 seconds after pinning.

At least I know the tren is legit.
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>>49544673
Nothing like a nasty rusty cough for 3-4 mins straight gasping for air inbetween.
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>>49544673
Are you injecting tren solo? I draw tren first and follow with test in the same syringe. This completely gets rid of tren cough for me. If I pin tren solo, then I get the cough.
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>>49544701
And then there’s always a weird smell after.

Either that or I was pinning some toxin.
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>>49542647
This is undisputable evidence that 19nors turn you homo.
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>>49544755
Tren on its own has a weird smell, if I ever leak and wipe and smell the cotton it really is something.
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>>49544755
You probably got some copper and other chink metals mixed in with your tren.
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>>49544701
Yeah it was fucking awful. The tightness in the chest, the coughing and wheezing.

>>49544745
Pinned it with test. But it's generally the same for me - when I pin it alone.
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>>49544806
Does yours homogenize in the syringe? Mine would always stay separate.
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>>49544907
The last time I ran tren they separated, this time it homogenizes.

It comes down to the oils the sources used.

>>49543027
Arnold is right. There's absolutely no reason to attack the mentally retarded for trying to make their absolute shit lives they were born into seem a little bit more normal with some fun.
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>>49544673
never got that. do you aspirate before you plunge? you might be mainlining your gear dude...
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>>49545064
All it takes is a single drop and a nicked vein.
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>>49544987
Aren’t the powder densities different and unless your source did some fucky math to get them to the same density accounting for hormone concentration, carrier oil, and solvents it seems like they’d separate almost always.

Either that or I’m just retarded.
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>>49545094
When I mix shit from the same brand you can see some form of seperation (stringy look) when it goes inside the barrel, but my guess it takes too long to clearly seperate so it all looks the same unless you closely inspect it.
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>>49545075
if you nick or pierce a vein on your way inn, and your needle is anywhere near it before injecting, you will draw blood if you aspirate. proper injection hygiene is important, and don't just cite some study that fits your narrative and laziness. Any healthcare professional in the first world always aspirate before injecting, and for a good reason
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>>49543248
are you really into pegging or is that a joke?

if you are, how do you make sure you dont get shit all over the dildo etc?
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>>49545094
There generally isn't enough powder in the mix to have a significant effect on the densities. The carrier oil, solvent, etc. densities matter more.
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>>49545254
I aspirate, but when I nick a surface vein its not going to show when aspirating because the needle goes in so deep.
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The answer to tren cough is obviously more tren
Hair of the dog
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>>49545362
>Hair of the dog
Those aren't dog hairs in your tren. It's your sources pubes, mate.
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>>49545396
Can I tell my doctor its just an ingrown hair gone wrong?
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>>49545396
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>>49543353
that smile at the end, fuck
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>>49545396
I put dog hairs in there myself for the extra gains
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>>49545513
Excuse me is this your dog?

We found him outrepping the entire gym and setting off the lunk alarm.
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>>49545553
>the power of myostatin
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>>49545585
Gotta gobble me some more yk11
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>>49545602
>gotta gobble me

Stopped reading there, Omw to Limburg
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>>49545346
>nick a surface vein
that should not matter
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>>49545553
Does your pet even lift
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>>49545703
So masculine it has 2 dicks. One extra large dick and one mega cock.
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>>49545703
Once went to a cattle auction in Calgary and I have never in my life seen testicles as big as the ones on those bulls
Like basketballs swinging between their legs
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>>49545641
>CCFC visits
>limburg facing a serious tompoes shortage

>>49545703
Dex > Str

My doggo will outzip your mass monster cow.
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>25 yo match on tinder
>tells me she has a daughter
>ask her if Ill have to fuck her back into shape for that pregnancy flab
>get reported
hahahahahah
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>>49545751
Bigger than these?
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>>49545766
Vlaai would suffer as well

>>49545970
God I’m aroused
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>>49545970
Based saline injection poster. I'll never forget my first time. One of my gym bros turned out to be a homo and told me about. He invited me to a saline house party, which was mostly gay guys and a few perverted young women who were raised on pornhub since 8 so choking/rimming/anal were vanilla to them, and looking for a greater thrill.

Turns out your body slowly re-absorbs the saline so it doesn't last long, but it's awesome while it lasts. You feel so huge and powerful, and there's always at least a few twinks and women fondling you during it.

10/10 would recommend
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>>49544701
Fml if it was only tren. I wish.

Started to pin my test/deca yesterday, 1ml I get the cough.

Leave the rest for today in another spot. Get the cough AGAIN. MY throat is so fucking sore. So unlucky.
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>>49545970
mirin'
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>>49545642
I always aspirate and still get it. Aspirating won't pull any blood if you knicked something along the way.
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>>49546097
I've had it happen with everything, even test only. was a lot more common with vgs though, with glutes it never happens for some reason.

I imagine quads are the worst by far but I don't pin that shitty site
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>>49546097
> nandrolone cough

wut
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>had nip issues last week
>adex .5 fri sat sun
>already had dick troubles last sunday
>still took 1mg adex on monday and .5mg thurs
>dick is dead fri sat sun

wooow, when will my dick be up again?

fuck AIs, ill take my titties
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>>49546177
It's a lot rarer than tren but it does happen now and again. Twice in a row just sucked.

>>49546292
Yup. Get unlucky enough n pepper your angus for some very uncomfortable coughing in a cold shower.
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What do you all use for cruising? Is it just test undeca or nothing?
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>>49546374
Whatever test I have in stock
E or Undec usually
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>>49545259
Get enema. I get three before my wife pounds me out.
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>>49546573
my gf has never had an enema and we do anal without issues

never been pegged but she sticks her fingers up there and I've fucked my ass with her dildo a couple of times and never had shit on either the fingers or the dildo and I don't do enemas

dunno what you people do with your asses
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>>49545259
take a poop and then enema out everything else, but if you go deep enough you will make a mess almost no matter what you do in my experience
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>>49546361
i’ve never had that happen with nandrolone bro. I thought it was only w tren ace
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>>49546662
had a finger in my ass during a bj for the first time a few days ago

that shit is unreal
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>>49546684
It can happen with any oil, its your bodies way of getting rid of it when it enters the bloodstream

Also why do you view tren ace as a seperate thing when its just tren?
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>>49546662
If you’re bulking you have to get all the shit out with an enema. Plus her strapon is 10” long so I’d rather not risk shitting on it if she gets too rough.
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>>49546723
isn’t the ester active almost immediately with tren? idk probably bro science
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>when the niacin flush and beta alanine tingles hit right when you get into the gym parking lot

Guess I’m sitting in my car til I don’t feel like I’m on fire.
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>>49546767
Tren is tren, ester just decides saturation times and its half life.

The main reason people get tren cough on ace more is ed pins vs twice a week.
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>>49546767
Is that you in op pic? If so what do you do for your triceps?
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>>49546826
It's not him it's Mr Biceps
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Has anyone tried this SARM? Do you need to do a post cycle therapy if taken only with mk-677?
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>>49546790
ah that makes complete sense then

>>49546826
nah zac aynsley. he’s the king of angles
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>Me and my siblings 30 years apart. We are two sets of twins.
OOF

this physically hurts me, it's bad enough when they get mogged by their regular brothers but a TWIN?
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>>49547350
Nevermind its from reddit.

Honestly is who is surprised..
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>>49547300
get back to r>eddit, kike
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>>49547417
>that guy who still thinks calling people redditors is an insult in 2019
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>>49547438
>implying im a guy
get out of your closeted mind and go outside
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>>49547350
It is from Reddit so worse
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>>49547300
that's not his twin, pink is the hot guy's twin
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>>49547575
>im just making shit up
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>>49546023
I bet you have aids Haha
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>>49547300
twink legs. but he has the gear traps so he is propably also here. wait nevermind he is good looking he isnt
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>>49543942
>>49544050
>still falling for the protein jew
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This natty Romanian kid is bigger than most grown steroid using adults on here kek
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>>49547875
>manlet gains dot jpeg
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>>49542647
You shouldn't need to beg if she is ur GF. She should want to do it if she loves you.
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Any UK DNP sources left?
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>>49548002
they all died using DNP m80
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>>49548119
mateoh?
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>>49548212
how do you pronounce 80
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>>49548212
fled to ireland
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>>49548277
ateoh
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is it safe to load up slin pins for the week with tren and test?
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>>49548322
>that giant air bubble in the syringe
retard
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>>49548353
i just have it loaded for tomorrow relax
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>>49548322
yikes
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>>49548322
this is the guy handing out steroid advice to newbies on the internet
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>>49548540
i’m here to learn and give bad advice

237lbs today
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Local convenience store is out of snickers white and has been for a few days.

How do I cope?
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>>49548672
you dress like richard simmons
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>>49548672
mirin, this is with 250mg test?
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>>49548322
There was a study by BP that said the black rubber degrades the medicine quality during prolonged contact. Just keep a 1/2 ml air bubble and point it down.
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>>49548750
why is her face so long
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>>49548119
I used DNP for about 3 months solid at 250mg/day. I was absolutely fine. I just want some more. Fuck.
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>>49548731
yes and 800npp since last week

>>49548750
thanks man. I wasn’t sure if the syringe itself or rubber was the issue.
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>>49548315
how do you pronounce eighty
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>>49548322
why would you? no benefits aside from saving a few minutes and by how much you post here you have plenty of free time.
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>>49548791
The rubber stopper is an issue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/77qsbk/how_long_can_i_keep_steroids_in_a_syringe/#ampf=undefined
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>>49548805
>no benefits
The vial is punctured once every 3ml - that's a benefit.
& you only need to use 1 18g needle/3ml to backload the slins - just grab a new set with each new vial.
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>>49548926
you replied to me by accident but i just want you to know this is some brainlet ass shit lmao, why are you using rubber stoppers instead of silicone
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>>49548884
fuck. oh well it’s only like an extra minute. i’ll probably only shoot test m/w/f and tren every day
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>>49549005
Why not just pin TestE e3d and TrenA eod?
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>>49549166
I don’t mind pinning. how often do you pin tren
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>>49549166
hot take: don't use an ester with a half life of 24 hours if you don't want to pin ed
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>>49549187
EOD. I want to avoid IM scarring and TrenA half life is ~3 days so eod works great.
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no
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>>49549257
gotcha. i’m still going to do ED for the stable levels. might get it up to 300-350 per week depending on how i’m feeling

>>49549294
been almost 2 days since I pinned npp so this makes sense why i’m feeling so fucking tired
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>>49549294
Interesting.
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>>49549371
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>>49549371
that source leads to >>49549386 which has... no source. this is pulled out of someone's asshole.
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>>49549386
maybe I should start out with eod and go from there

if I can handle nearly 3 days between my last npp pin for the week and the next, I should be able to handle tren. plus running it low

https://johndoebodybuilding.com/trenbolone/
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>>49549496
Use the steroidcalc site like I did and plot it out for the dosage you'd like.

>>49549416
That's hilarious.
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>>49543757
Well theoretically you can lose weight and build muscle at the same time. Fat and/or water loss > gains (as long as there is some)

You can be in a calorie deficit and gain weight too technically speaking, as long as your fat loss is low enough to allow muscle gain to be higher than it.

Body fat is around 10x more calorie dense than muscles, so your total stored calories is still going down despite adding muscle.
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>>49545118
Thats just different diffraction/refraction index as theyre mixing together until theyre evenly mixed.
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>>49543757
With *enough* androgens/anabolics and a fuck load of protein you *might* add some muscle mass
If you want to believe John Meadows/Dave Palumbo it can happen, but doesn't happen often
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>>49543757
If you’re dyel it’s possible to gain mass and lose fat. If you’re close to the natty limit it’s not.
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What to do if HGH is fucking up my fasted glucose when it was fine before? I'm waking up more in the middle of the night more, too.
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>>49550107
did you expect this to not happen? why did you think this wouldnt happen?
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>>49549543
I really just want something to help me retain mass through the summer. going to also be taking mt2 for the tan gainnnnnz
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>>49550107
stop taking hgh
start taking metformin
start taking insulin
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>>49550114
gymbro was on HGH and while he didn't check his fasted glucose, he didn't have sleep issues either.

I don't care too much about the glucose, honestly, the sleep issues are what's really fucking with me.
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>>49550162
>>49550185
I should say, I won't be on the HGH for a long time, but it really sucks ass that it's fucking with my sleep. If my glucose is fucked for a while, I can just check it more when I'm off cycle and try to avoid beetus. But bad sleep will disrupt my gains.
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>>49550162
Just use higher dosages of test on a cruise. E.g. 300mg per week.
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>>49546895
I strongly recommend doing a lot more research, both on how SARMs work and what you're actually likely to get if you buy illegal drugs from China (hint: not the cutting edge research chemical you're paying for)
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>>49543353
GIVE
NOW
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>>49550229
you think it’s not worth running tren and just doing test with maybe a light oral dose like epistane?
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>>49550428
just eat less fatass you’re half masT’s size and he cruises on 300mg test why do you think you need tren
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>>49550467
I need more mass you fucking retard
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>>49550428
For a cut blast of several weeks, sure. Not for a cruise though.
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>>49550496
the fatass mindset
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>tfw no gym bf

>>49550596
CULTIVATING MASS
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What's the longes blast and cruise y'all have ever done?? I'm coming up on a year and a half blast and cruise thinking about blasting one more time then cruising on test for a while
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>>49550627
Like uh 6 years now most of the time just permablasting. Inb4 “poast bawdy”
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>>49550656
Im sorta worried about the whole not being able to have kids.. any reliable source on not being able to have kids after blasting and cursing for so long
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>>49550603
>hhahaha male bonding is gay lol
>theyre bro dudes lmao, not friends cuz thats like gay lol so he he doesnt actually care duh
>men sharing a connection isnt a thing omg theyre not able to experience friendship.
I sincerely believe this stupid fucking attitude is the reason so many dudes either overdose or just straight up off themselves.
so many men cannot have close friends without constantly keeping a "no homo" barrier between themselves for fear of being perceived as fagggots. its crazy, Ive had girls try and pull this shit with me because of my relationships with guys ive known since i was fucking 5 years old. no bitch is going to replace a man who is essentially my brother, and i dont give a fuck how homoerotic my relationship with them seems, i fucking love them god damn it.
even interesting girls are basically vapid whores compared to my good male friends.
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>>49550558
jesus christ so 250 tren cycle is basically a waste of money

>>49550596
that’s right little twink I will be buried in a fat mans coffin while you will be put in a skinny woman’s
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>>49550688
Who hurt you?

>>49550669
I haven’t ever really looked into fertility but everything I’ve heard on here and other forums seems to say b&c and being able to have kids is still entirely possible.
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>>49546709
having something to brace around feels completely different. guess those girls really did know what they were talking about
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>>49550721
Fuck off roastie o donell
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So....I just realized that I have no real reason to not kill myself right now.
Not even keeping my family happy or constantly reminding myself that I'll hurt the kids.
They aren't my kids, I just take care of them. Hell I don't want the wife and kids fantasy thing anymore. And my parents can look after themselves and my brothers and sisters can look after them as well.
So I've decided to live a debauched life of selfish hedonism.
What is the perfect mainlining it till I'm in a fucking box stack.
Like for...10 years tops.
Not trying to get HYOOGE just want to be aesthetic and have enough energy to whore around 24/7 and heal enough so that I can do it again. I'm in perfect health right now so I can probably live through some serious shit before I OD or have a piana tier heart attack.
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>>49550793
Nice blog
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>>49550793
steroids aren’t going to help they will only make the cope worse
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>>49550688
You didn’t end your post with no homo, homo.
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>>49550812
Thank god im handsome, not much to cope for me
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>>49550830
if you were actually good looking you wouldn’t be thinking about killing yourself. life is obviously on hard mode for you
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>>49550843
lmao imagine being this fucking retarded
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>>49550843
Not that guy tho
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>>49550812
I've coped my entire life.
I'm tired of living I have no hopes or plans or anything in life worth living.
Every day is a grey slog where I desperately try to find something to keep my mind off of the fact that I just don't want to live anymore.
>>49550843
That wasn't me.
And part of the depression thing is being able to see things for what they are when you aren't seeing them in the worst possible light.
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>>49550906
Youre right, you should off yourself
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>>49550906
> don’t want to live anymore

but here you are talking about killing yourself the people who actually are going to just go through with it without asking for attention.

obviously something is holding you back
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>>49550933
okay
ill trry
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>>49550974
Not wanting to live is different from wanting to kill yourself.
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>>49551070
>i dont want to live
life is too hard to try and i dont want to try and make my own life better so i will be a burden to everyone in life who i come in contact with
>I want to kill myself
I want the easiest way out and i will also be a burden to my family and friends emotionally.
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Anyone else have face bloat on tren? 350/wk
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>>49551119
Not wanting to live is simply you feel overwhelmed by life and all your options to improve just seem like a pyrrhic victory. You feel like fixing one issue just makes more issues and you will never be free from the burdens which constantly cause you stress and anxiety. You really feel hopeless and humiliated.

Wanting to die on the other hand, generally people don't want to die most of the time. They just can't find anyway else out which would hurt them and the people around them less, they want the pain and the thoughts to stop. To them death is still very scary but they feel like whatever death is, it's better than suffering. Kind of like sleeping because despite doing nothing at least you're not suffering anymore but then you wake up and you feel horribly that you wasted your time sleeping instead of trying to fix anything. Your issues become even further amplified and you feel humiliated because it just looks like your lazy, so you go back to sleep to make the thoughts go away.

Depression is not fun.
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Starting my first cycle with 150mg of test cyp. Are the aromatase inhibitors that can be bought online in pill form a complete meme? I can get test easy, but Rx armidex is gonna be a tall order.
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>>49546895
Its more suppressive than LGD-4033 which is highly suppressive, but its short half life and doesnt totally shut down FSH and LH means recovery is quick after stopping it. If you want to PCT Id recommend toremifene.
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>>49551394
I'm seven weeks into my eight week lgd cycle and I am sure I felt more suppression when I took ostarine. It is possible the ostarine was laced with some prohormone I guess, but my gains have been better on lgd. Also all I've taken with lgd is a natural test booster and cardarine. When I took the ostarine I took clomid as a picture starting two weeks prior to the end of the cycle
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>>49551193
I understand these feelings, and i do feel this myself a LOT.
And a lot of the times when you try to sleep these feelings away you cant fucking sleep because of the worries and issues keeping you awake, and how shit you've been in the past etc.

But the only thing that stops me falling into that pit is believing what i wrote above.

>life is too hard to try and i dont want to try and make my own life better so i will be a burden to everyone in life who i come in contact with

I have to believe this myself so that i dont become it. Regardless of how shit i feel.
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>>49551421
Cardarine may increase your energy levels.

LGD-4033 can crash your SHBG levels, which increases your free test to total test ratio, so the suppression may be less noticeable.

Ive also taken both Ostarine and LGD with test E, and only noticed LGD giving me more estro sides and libido - due to increased free test and estrogen. Even though Ostarine is allegedly supposed to do the same to SHBG.

At 7 weeks on LGD only I also had some lethargy but picked back up in week 8.
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crusader you are such a fucking flaming homosexual
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>>49551598
Projecting much?
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why do you always do this girly shit where you never actually respond to anything anyone says just say stupid shit like are you autistic? etc
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>>49551627
I can't tell if you're talking to me or not.
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its kind of sad how autistic you are, never gonna make it
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is it normal to have very weak urine stream while gearing on Test 1g/week???
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>>49551812
No. I think that's a symptom of prostate enlargement.
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>>49551812
Up the cialis
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Has anyone ever tried Albuterol?
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>>49551391
Why 150
Just the do the 500 basic
And most likely, your UGL source should carry AI
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>>49542632
if i want to knockout my mother and im tearing up during shit i shouldnt tear up for does the ai need to go up or down. pls help.

>inb4 bloods

pc nick swafords gyno
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>>49548322
i do it, load up 3 at the time, because the math and ampules just work out that way. Used to keep it separated until pinning but i said fuck it. Havent noticed any difference. Just be sure you use proper sterile technique when preloading, this is non-negotiable. a contaminated syringe sitting and festering for three days will do some nasty damage to you.
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>>49548322
Braun has syringes without rubber. I dont know if you guys have them in the states though. Use these. Braun needles are complete trash though, cut with a machine and not with laser like BD micro
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Lost 3 kilos in a week on low dose DNP with zero sides, not even sweating, just have to drink and piss constantly.
Pure magic.
Only retards die on DNP.
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>>49548322
>>49552244
>>49552313

Braun do Rubber free syringes
Terumo are all rubber free iirc
BD use Rubber

If you are going to store syringes prefilled i'd use one with a latex/rubber free synthetic alternative.
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Anyone else get a much stronger heart beat? As in at rest, you can feel the slight thump, thump.

Only on TRT doses with a total t around 1000 and 27 free.
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>>49552900
During heavy blasts and an intense workout on top sometimes.
It's not healthy anon, keep an eye on it.
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>>49552900
Get on coq10
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Can my surgeon deny gyno surgery if my hormones levels are off? Test was slightly elevated and e2 was below average. What should I tell him if he asks about these levels? Im currently 4 weeks post PCT and only taking some ralox for the gyno.
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>>49552110
>im tearing up during shit
You should be used to big things tearing you up by now kek
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crashed my e2 quite bad, spent the weekend w someone and dick wouldnt work.

last shot was early friday 200mg test.
Should I take a 400mg shot now just to help things out? I normally do 200mon/200fri but maybe i should go 200 MWF just for more gains.

i can finally orgasm now but its rly weak and shitty.
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Oof
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>>49553911
Your real name is Walt?
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>>49553944
Last name is Disney.
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>>49551193
up the dose what is this

>>49551421
because LGD is testosterone suppressive you brainlet

>>49552900
lol just wait until you start randomly gasping for air during the day while bulking
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>>49554467
mofo are you here 24/7 ? pfhahah get a fucking job and a life you fucking deadbeat kek
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goddamn I hate snapchat
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>>49554502
I haven’t even been on for like 10 hours

also my job is easy enough where I can do whatever I want. you jelly
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THERES NO ESCAPE LITTLE MAN!
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>>49553911
I was on HRT for 1ish month and tried to recover normally for another, was the darkest days of my life.

now im back on gear and life is better
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>>49554524
yeah i'm jelly,jelly of your facial characteristics.
I want to be able to make children happy like that
honk honk!
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>>49553911
I saw the same on tv last week. Tranny who removed it's cock and regretted it.

Maybe i should show the same to the tranny sitting in front of me right now

I also regret steroids. I can i still get back
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>>49554568
im gonna meet this qt weab tranny, with a dick bigger than mine(not sayin much).

ill do everything in my power to make her not cut it off, prolly wont since she is too horny to lose it.
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>>49554562
you should be jealous

>>49554568
no you’re already too far down the road. pin until you die
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Homebrewing is so cheap, wtf.
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>>49554667
too much work fuck that shit i aint buying a lab kit
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>>49554667
it really is. it's just fucking annoying to do. I did it once and I actually wasted the rest of my raws and went back to paying the premium by ordering from a source. fuck this shit, my time is money
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>>49554631
So you like to get dick mogged?

>>49554635
Unfortunately the truth

>>49554667
How easy is it and what are the risks?
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>>49554723
How did you waste the raws?
Seems fairly straight forward to do to me.
Whats annoying about the process anon?
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any Gucci gang niggas in
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>>49554724
You can still hop off or just go actual trt. Pick some test u and pin once every 2 weeks or so.

You act like it's a certified death sentence.
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>>49554733
I wasted them as in I left them in my drawer for a year and went back to ordering from a source.

it's annoying because it takes time, it's not particularly hard it's just time consuming. measuring powder is fucking annoying, mixing shit is annoying, filtering takes forever, capping orals is the most time consuming thing you can do in the entire fucking world

it's good if you want to save money or want to make an exotic compound. if I wanted to try dhb I'd probably have to homebrew it because only one source has it in Canada and its like 80 dollars for a 50mg/ml vial, but otherwise fuck it
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>>49554724
Seems easy to me and im a brainlet.
Couple guides over on plebbit.

Risks are fucking it up and costing yourself money.
Fucking it up and infecting yourself.
Getting caught and going to prison for manufacturing.

Saying that, apart from intial cost of equipment and oils which isnt massive, I could blast Test E at 500mg for a year straight and it would cost me £50 tops
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>>49554809
Cheers anon,
I might do it just to have a supply of Test E and Undec for the rest of my life.
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>>49554775

test + hgh is my plan after a few years of BnC. Maybe occasionally throw in nandrolone.

Was talking to a gym owner the other day, juicing for 30 years now and 15 of it running trt + hgh. he says get on low hgh as soon as possible
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>>49554837
you and everybody around you are morons
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>>49554847
strong reply
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>>49554837
Test sure, 100mg max. Hgh not so sure, there are downsides to hgh that nobody talks about.
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>>49554775
Once you are hooked to that look it's impossible to go to the gym again and be semi-satisfied with what you see.

Trust me i have cycled for 2 years, I know all about it. My only worries are when the sources run out. Especially because we only have 1 main source now.

I don't wanna order shit overseas, with customs and all that.

>>49554811
Damn that sounds good, except for prison and infecting yourself. What about the quality?
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>>49542632
What's wrong with his forearms
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>>49554926
Quality is down to your raws.
Raws I'm looking at are 99.2% apparently.
Then order the rest from medical or lab supply sites.
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>>49550696
I need you to understand this, you’re not a bodybuilder you’re just a fat dude who likes to eat a lot and happens to lift. Read Arnolds book back than they were leaner off season and literally bulked into the show, anyone who looks “fat” off season is literally filled to the gills with HGH and isn’t fat like you think. And please don’t pull out a picture of “off season” Lee Priest he did that for an ad.
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>>49554923
it depends, there's nothing wrong with QoL doses of hgh forever. obviously if you're going to 12IU a day and need to add insulin because of your glucose going to shit then yeah you're creating issues

>>49554959
and your sterilization process
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>>49554724
my dick is just barely average, half the people i were with are smaller, half are noticeably bigger.

it is what it is.
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>>49551598
I wish <3
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>>49554986
It can’t be that difficult
I’ve met sources and they are not the brightest people
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>>49555048
they aren't, but for example my source has an autoclave for sterility. are you going to buy an autoclave?
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>>49555120
>Cheapest Autoclave is £95

No anon I am not.
I was going to get pre-sterile vials and fill them?
Is that not a good idea?
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>>49554989
Except over here, because average here is 7 inch.
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>>49554926
I've got like 3 sources right now, step up your game man.
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>>49555147
man you really are a pathetic loser
you're literally insecure about everything
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>>49555141
it is, I'm just giving you a bit of shit. staying sterile during the entire process of homebrewing is probably the actual hardest part though. but it's not that big of a deal
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>>49555147
Source? I can only find data saying 6.2

>>49555159
>feeble 3
I have 8, get on my level you Tompoe hoarding fuck
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>>49555147
>self-reported dick sizes
big laff
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>>49555182
You need all the gear and sources you can get you pastry gobbling lardass.

But see mast getting sources isn't hard.
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>>49555177
ahah ok anon, i might give it a go then.
Bad case scenario is i lose like £100 setting it all up, worst case is i die, so no loss.

>>49555211
actually kek'd out loud
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>>49555211
>But see mast getting sources isn't hard.
He's in the UK. There's dozens of sources based in the UK.

Don't see the problem importing from outside sources desu. If you're inside the EU customs is very easy to let things through. And AFAIK holland isn't a complicated one.
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>>49554976
> fat
you made me laugh there
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>>49555235
>He's in the UK. There's dozens of sources based in the UK.

He's right tbf, especially as some big labs went down lately so there is a huge vacumn and so many labs pushing for new custom.
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>>49555255
how about posting a photo that isn't edited to make your body look better
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>>49555235
There prob are more sources, I have 4 "unverified" ones, meaning they seem legit but I'd have to place an order.

Worst case scenario is importing, I have no clue how brexit will affect it but Germany is a good choice as well.
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>>49542632
What's the highest dose of Test E I can take on a regular basis before needing AI or a PCT and getting man tits
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>>49554976
testiFy isn’t even fat
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>>49555255
Not him and no offense but your body does look a bit weird. You have flat stomach but no abs, at the same time your legs have no cuts, your face is not fat or bloated but your arms are not super vascular.

Also, do you have any pictures of back double bi?
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>>49555285
If Brexit is bad i'll come over with the vials up my arse for you bbi

>>49555287
Dont worry anon, you can take 2g no problem without ai
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>>49555255
>>49555293
lol literally every male under like 20% has the same cuts and veins in the arms. Arms is the last place most men gain fat, let’s see a picture of your abs or your lower back or even some striations anywhere
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>>49555305
I'll introduce you to the world of Dutch deep fried snacks if you do.
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>>49555305
I don't believe you, but thanks.

I'm currently taking 125mg/week, can I go to 150 or 200?
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>>49554976
you’re a moron
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>>49555327
t. testicle
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

dyels trying to strike again. here’s me next to a door

let the hate keep flowing through you
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>>49555319
You can go pretty high honestly it’s vey individual and it’s all about trial and error. I got facial bloat at high doses (1g+) without AI and that’s it, doesn’t even effect libido or BP. Estrogen is also important in growing so no real reason to keep it super low, once your skin is oily and your dick stops working your estro is too high.
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>>49555159
Yes but most of them sell brands that are busted

>>49555170
>imagine being this autistic and taking everything literally
You are the same guy that needs explanation for every joke while everyone is laughing his ass off and you are wondering why everyone is making such weird movement with their mouths
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>>49555255
>>49555351
Are you capable of taking a picture and not obviously fucking with the contrast/lighting/color palette?
How insecure are you that you have to edit literally every single photo you post?
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>>49555381
> projecting and assuming

yikes. doesn’t matter what you say or how long your blogpost is. I mog you IRL
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twinks in this thread when they see my pics
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>>49555365
I've ordered from all 3, most busted brands are listed as sold out on their sites.

I've already got pharma caber, want to order pharma asin as well.
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>>49555315
Brb booking flights

>>49555319
As anon below points out it can be super subjective
I can run test fairly high on its own
Throw nandrolone in there and suddenly it’s breast central
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>>49555384
that's not what projecting means you fucking troglodyte lmao. he's right, you are literally posting black and white pictures and filtering garbage, are you really gonna try to pretend your pictures come out b&w all on their own?

you are so damn insecure
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>>49555384
Answer the question bucko, do you really think that your hamfisted post processing isn't obvious? I can understand editing slightly, but the degree which you do either belies complete delusion or incompetence when it comes to image editing.
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>>49555394
>he has gay porn saved on his phone
yeesh
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>>49555428
why you so worried about me? focus on yourself

>>49555431
just bad lighting I guess. why you so worried about me?
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>>49555398
New sources or the ones we already discussed before?
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>>49555484
1 new, brand new international one.
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>>49555351
>photo edited to make poorly define triceps (due to fat) seem better defined
next
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>testify posting pics
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>>49555431
Nah bro my phone does this itself
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fucking retards ITT think you’re supposed to look good year round on steroids
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why so much hate today? I just got promoted lol.

>>49555522
kek
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how did the sun get into my bathroom

weird
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>>49555516
theyre just small thats all
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>>49546709
>>49550772
so have any of you tried the aneros?
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>>49555576
kek who is this
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>Ibutamoren, Ligandrol, Ostarine, Testolone

What the fuck, how am i supposed to choose? They all seem somehow similar?
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>>49555522
>imaging deliberately searching for these kinda pictures to cope with own shortcomings

This is of course shopped. But you can literally find good and less good pictures from everyone. Except for people like you where no angles, lightning or Photoshop will make any difference.
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>>49555588
Trick question, none of the above
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>>49555598
>no angles, lightning or Photoshop will make any difference.

Oof, right in the feels
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>>49555599
Let me guess, "tren bro."
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>>49555598
that’s all they do bro. hate on what scares or threatens them. they see you towering over a bench or me towering next to a door and immediately the DYEL cuck inside their brain starts crying

ITS NOTTTTTT FAIIIIIIIIIRRRRRR
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>>49555620
I mean if you want anon, im not your mother.
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>>49555626
nobody is hating you because youre big but because youre a flamboyant retard who likes to pretend he knows what hes doing
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>>49555626
I want to see what tren does to you in combination with these trolls
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>>49555587

don't know. I saved it a while back
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>>49555678
hed drop it in a day because he can't handle it
he gets scared just thinking of the sides lmfao
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>>49555651
fake it till you make it

>>49555678
lol. there’s no reason for me to get triggered on here

>>49555712
i’m on 800npp right now not scared of sides
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>>49555766
nandrolone is nowhere near tren in terms of strength and sides
npp is extremely mild in that regard
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>>49555789
250tren vs 800npp both 19 nor the sides shouldn’t be too far off
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>>49555598
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>>49555800
400mg Tren gives me more sides than 400 npp or 1g deca did.
But its not as bad as people make out imo.
A little insomnia here and there and night sweats.
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my pics just come out like this
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new

>>49555856
>>49555856
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>>49555800
the problem with your estimates is that you haven't the slightest idea of steroids outside of injecting them
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>>49555626
>ITS NOTTTTTT FAIIIIIIIIIRRRRRR
You might be saying this in a short while when nadrolone induced anxiety/memory loss occurs. Stick to test/dht derivatives, bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPtr2_losZM
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>>49552102
My source is my Endocrinologist and he refused to give me AI due to something something heart attacks. 200 e3.5 is Most I can do with this prescription



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