/fraud/ - dead thread edition Before asking your stupid beginner questions, make sure to read:https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wikiYes it's reddit, find a better compilation of information about steroids on the internet if you don't like it.Also, include:>e-stats>age>time spent lifting>height>weight>BF%Oral only cycles are retarded and you're a retard for considering them.We can't help you dose your AI, it's different for everybody and there's a lot of factors at play. Figure it out yourself.And most importantly,NO SOURCE TALK (This isn't up for debate, you will be banned). Figure out where to get steroids on your own. previously: >>48603583
>>48629070How do these fake youtube natties be shredded af, have crystal clear skin without acne and full hair? What are they running? 100mg TRT & Tren A 300mg/Week or what? Anyone know what they might be running?
>>48629070There's no source talk, but what about that Electronic Roids site that reviews lots of places stuff? You know, ElectronicRoids or whatever abbreviation they have. That's not a source talk, right?
Can I increase my size and vascularity on test? This is my current body at 230 lbs and 20 years old
>>48629130Mast and Winny is all you need to get shredded
>>48629130Ur fucking fat m8
>>48629168I’m bulking. This was my last cut March.Gonna cut next year
>>48629192Wait another year, you still have a long way to go
>>48629207What is he waiting for exactly?
>>486291101. Photoshop+tan helps acne2. Not many people are that susceptible to balding from roids. Plenty of golden age bodybuilders had good hair into their 30s3. Survivor bias- if roids make you look like shit you're going to not be a popular youtuber and what's left is those who can tolerate sidesTbf if people are close to their target they don't need a lot. 300 mg of test e 200 mg tren-e was fine for me
Anyone start on a dose of mk677? Any sub20yos do it to induce a growth spurt? Im finishing a 90lbs cut and want to pussily fix all the muscle loss and metabolic damage with the hope of one or two inches added onto my height.Planning on doing a 15mg dose to start at 5 days a week and then 30mg for 5 days a week about a month in @ 190lbs 5'10.
>>48629244>Tbf if people are close to their target they don't need a lot. 300 mg of test e 200 mg tren-e was fine for mepost body
What should i add to my next bulk? Currently planning 500 test and 500 deca. Thinking something mild like eq or even mk677
>>48629125let me be DIRECT with you, that muscle drug your trying to get is outlaw
How much of steroids do I take? I want to be built like the Dutch Giant. He goed from 100kg to 170kg in 8 years at 218cm.I am 23 and 203cm and 100kg. I start lifting and do not fit in university machines in weights room good. Very difficult I find this. I want to be 170kg of straight muscles as well.How many steroids do I take? Can I buy them at the drug store in the USA or do I need to order them from amazon while I'm here? Can I be this big faster than 8 years or do steroids work slowly?
>>4862950670kg in years is pretty good with steroids. No way can you do that natty. You'll need higher doses than us mortals since you're larger therefore more blood so more diluted levels. Honestly you will need to blast and cruise for years to gain that much mass.Yeah dude just go to your chemist or the biggest guy at your gym and ask them for juice lol
>>48629378500mg more test
>>48629506Bruh, steroids are illegal in the US, you fucking retard. You won't find them in the drug store or Amazon.
>>48629506So... that's like an anorexic 175cm guy at 50kg gaining 35kg in 8 years. More than half that size could be gained just by food and lifting. When you start out too thin and actually prioritize eating you gain muscle rapidly. They don't even count as newb gains because the body us eagerly gaining lean body mass to where it wants to be anyway. Call it health muscle gains. The newb gains will start up after the initial health gains are made. Once the initial health gains and newb gains are complete this 175cm guy would have already gained 20kg of lean mass. The next 15kg after that is from the roids.
>>48629699Wouldn’t it have been quicker to just say “I don’t know how this works”?
>>48629192I think you actually might know what you’re doing... look better than 95% of the fucks hereTry a test cycle and pct. if anything you can even just try sarms first to see how you react to anabolics. some people agree with hormonal changes some dont. just realize once you make that jump and see progression on gear when everything else is spot on, it’s hard to stop. I recommend 8-10 week cycles followed by 8-10 weeks off / cruise (low test WITH BLOODWORK to see where you are). understand the risks, cover your ass with insurance, and do your fucking research
>>48629110Roiding doesn't cause balding, it accelerates it if you were already prone. Not everybody gets acne from roids, and even when you do you can control it + it goes away in patches.
>>48629699If someone starts out underweight they aren't going to gain muscle faster than a genetically strong person. Complete bro science.
>>48629699Claiming someone can gain 44 pounds of muscle without roids. Being 110 and only 5'9" means literally anorexic for an adult male.
>>48629070How long does test e last? It came sooner than I had anticipated and I'm not planning on starting the cycle yet.
just came off of my cycle of test and deca the other day and started cruising + mk677 + proviron the intense hunger came out of nowhere. up to 232lbs. should be a good fluffy off season as i’m starting to realize what a retard I was thinking I should be shredded and make lean gains. just lmao. mk677 is really some next level shit. i recommend it for everyone when coming off of a cycle (BnC or PCT).
Anyone have any hair loss remedies/counters outside the usual Fin/Niz/Min? I did the dut-niz-min trifecta and hair has slightly thinned on just 500mg/wk TE. Not sure what else I can do to up my hairline defence force here.
Brehs there’s this gorgeous mixed Asian and Hispanic girl at my gym who squats, benches, and deadlifts but I’m too much of a faggot to even say hi to her. Although it seems like she doesn’t find me intimidating which I guess is good since she usually works out next to me when I’m using those cable machines with two right next to each other. I should probably grow a pair.
>>48629506this guy has been frauding for a million years. takes a long time even with roids>>48631707yes you probably should
>tfw the albuterol is giving me painful neck cramps
>>48629258>mfw people think mk677 will make them taller
>>48629655you used to be able to buy synthol from newegg
>just turned 18 in oct>been debating whether or not to take steroids >got bloods tested>had 21 ng/l of free testosterone>converts to around 600 ng/l of total testosterone>this was taken in the morning around 10 AMIs this on the lower side for someone my age? There isn't any clear indications of whether or not it is onlineWhat do you guys think?
why on here and reddit the rule of thumb is to cruise for as long as you blast? I see on all the roid forums those chads are cruising for only half their blast length.
>>48631707>Although it seems like she doesn’t find me intimidatingBut she find you ugly, that's way worse>>48632499Taurine>>48632597I think you are a huge faggot
>>48632777The rule of the thumb is; BLOODWORK. If your levels are good you can blast again, but since they are so many poor and pussy fags they are too afraid to see what's up so they invented this stupid rule
>>48632794what do you think?
>>48629130>>48629192>replying to posts with those pictures
is this tren fucked?
>>48632995Wasn't i clear enough?
Are you helping your friend?
>>48633200looks like antifreeze to me
NPP is the shit boys
>>48633223Stop giving this fucking retard attention. He got many changes to fix that shit but refuses to. Natural selection at play >>48633292Why sleeve? Shit hides you definition and makes your arm look flat af.
>>48632597Completely normal. I had 670 natty and i looked really good at 18. Started frauding right there anyways though.
>>48633292You look like shit man.
6’0 240lbsRunning 700mg NPP/week and Test @ 1g a week. MasT I agree. My sleeved arm looks like shit. But I love art
>>48633460How long you blasting for, interesting to see someone actually blasting a lot of gear in here
>>48633460Just talked in general about getting sleeves while being muscled. I was also thinking about until a saw how it hides your definition and makes your arm look flat af. That's why some do forearms or calve only
>>48633531Pianoman, despite being shitty quality, had smart placement to his tattoo's to enhance physique.
>>48633531Yeah, wouldn’t do it with your physique. Your big ass would be expensive as fuck to tattoo anyway if they charge by the hour
Feeling depressed af since i changed this fucking pinning routine. Thinking about suicide all the time Is there someone here with more than 1 brain cell that can tell me if 2 fixed days or every 3 days is better. That fucking stupid calculator doesn't make sense>>48633552He didn't had that fully inked sleeve. Also his looked ugly af
>>48633608It literally doesn't matter if you pick 2 fixed days or e3d.The only thing that matters is consistancy.That said this kind of swap should be fine and leave no impact. Something else is going on.
>>48633200Left 3 could be considered normal for oxidized trenThe right 2 are wtf
>>48633608The more often the better you retard. Ed would be perfect even with long esters. So you get the most stable bloodlevels.
>>48633686Perhaps an underlying depression >>48633200The two right looks like when want to take a fucking piss at work and some old boomer just went before me and didn't flush>>48633791So with other words; e3d is better than 2 fixes days?
What type of steroid use would achieve this physique by age 25?
>>48633844>Perhaps an underlying depressionThe guy striving for perfection despite it being unobtainable while the older you get the more impossible it becomes? No way dude lmao.
Im running tren-a at the moment but I'm getting stomache issues. I'm supplementing with betaine HCL ..but if I up the dose to 50mgs my stomache is kill. The lab is reputable and I've run their NPP / Test-E ....first time tren is kicking my ass with the sides.The only thing I'm doing differently is pinning with a 0.5" slin pin (quad)
>>48633844You were on test e and DHB right? e3d should be perfectly stable.Wasn't DHB basically an extreme version of EQ? This is me 100% broscienceing, but could that mean it also provides an extreme EQ anxiety of sorts.You sure your e2 isn't just really high
>>48633901Tren nearly always gives me digestion issues too
>>48633861All of them plus slin / gh
>>48633972I've run tren-a and tren-e before at higher doses....which has got me thinking that my tren was bunk. Yes, my body is changing daily even on this dose...
>>48633891Stop hurting my feelings>>48633963Yeah correct. Will just give it time, since i recently changed it. It's a tweaked version. It shouldn't cause the anxiety from EQ or other side effects from it, as far i could read.
https://m.omroepwest.nl/nieuws/3732782@ Nano. If you can see what I mean. Soon there will be nothing left anymoreFCUKING PIGSSSS
work at 6 am lads
>>48634064Nah man I'll just homebrew my own test by then. The market will never die but fuck them having to crack down on steroids when I can get mdma on every street corner.
>>48634013how long have you been on gear?the e3d is definitely more consistent, just pin in night or morning. my blood levels came back pretty good during a blast and after doing test e e3d for months. if you pinned every day I think you’d get optimal levels but who tf wants to do that also i’m convinced that orals completely ruin cycles for me. was ready to come off of test and deca the second week of epistane
>>48634401>also i’m convinced that orals completely ruin cycles for meI feel the same way. I'm slowly starting to embrace the idea the only oral worth using is winny in summer and that's about it.
>>48634363Because low-t cu.ck skinny hippies are easily to control by the government >>48634401Started with 2 cycles with one 1 year off in between then bnc for 2,5 years. You?Will see how this go for couple of weeks. Orals are cancer and very toxic to your body. Anadrol and dbol are the only ones worth the try and they will fuck you up hard.
>>48634448>>48634363bout to blast with some anadrol (+test,tren,mast) redpill me gents.
>>48634527Can't get that tax money from roids like they do with weed.>>48634557Care for hair, otherwise have fun its a good stack.
>>48634605thanks nano. saw your pics the other day when i was lurking. looking good brother!
>>48634448yeah I end up feeling toxic as hell. orals absolutely wreck my lipids>>48634527nice man. cruising since last feb had a first good blast this september. just ended that and did e3d throughout the blast as well. maybe it’s just your body adjusting to that “extra day” assuming you’re doing e3d around the same time.
>>48633608What compounds and dosages you are pinning right now and how much you were pinning on your previous 2 pinning days per week?
>>48634643correction it would be one less day not an extra day
>>48634557Don't forget your cardio.Anadrol was fun but man the BP spikes on it.
>>48634747superdrol would spike my bp out the roof dude. orals definitely not worth it unless you’re competing or need to get shredded fast
>>48633844E3d is better, e2d would be even better. But most people won't feel any difference I am fine if it is more frequent than e5d.
Is 250 test C a week good for a low dose cycle? Or should I up it to 300+?
orals 365 a yearyou pussies sicken me to be quite frank
>>48634915>you pussies sicken me to be quite frankIt's the orals that are making you sick breh>>48634794Unless it's a legday sdrol treats me quite well in training. Just get full on lethargy after a week or so is the problem.
>>48634915props to you for being able to handle them bet you still won’t post your body lmfao >>48634942sdrol was best to me on leg day although I used to get sickening lower back pumps and had to stop mid sets. fucking orals can also ruin a good workout
I've been doing PSMF and ocasional carb refeed on my Tren cut but bro just told me tren without carbs is useless. How right is he?
>>48634844It's fine. Honestly a lot of clinical studies use 300 so yeah
>>48634961Oooooh shit. The lower back pumps. I completely forgot about those. Alongside the headaches those backpumps really crippled the workout too.>>48634974Tren is fantastic for muscle retention, but clearly for the "look" carbs are needed. Dumb to say it's useless without them though.
>>48634992I popped 30mg epistane before a workout last week and the pump was crippling in my lower back. Same with sdrol @ 14mg pre workout. and yeah bro my headaches were really quick but sharp. i’d run to grab water every time. i’m convinced 2-3 Gallons of water per day are needed while on orals. Those steroids are no joke. do you remember your sdrol / sdrol doses and how long did you last? sdrol 1 week, epistane 2 weeks for me. I must be a pussy
Guys I'm interested in doing my cycle like this:>300mg primobolan>20mg dianabolfor 6 weeksIs 20mg dbol for 6 weeks gonna fuck up my liver? Even if I never use it after that again?
>>48635085I had a buddy run dbol for a few weeks and he said it made him feel like shit. sides and gyno were hard to control
>>4863507320-30mg sdrol ed for me was enough for me to be wrecked after week 1.>>48635085Why even consider steroids when you're not even serious enough about lifting to stick a needle into yourself.
>>48635132Damn ok>>48635240I have no fear of sticking a needle up my ass just this is the only thing available to me
>>48635295>just this is the only thing available to meThat's bs
My shit is grey / white, there is tingling around my upper-right liver area, earlier in the cycle the area around the left of my liver was in pain, also earlier in cycle had temp. pitting edema. Recently a doctor told me that I had elevated liver enzymes. Still gonna continue my nightly drinking and will do my second sdrol cycle in a couple weeks after finishing the first about a week ago. You fags care for your health too much. Probably because most of you are americans and have to pay for healthcare / hospital bills lmao.
>>48635573stop being a pussy and take halotestin on top of your sdrol faggot
>>48635573Okay goodbye you and your pidgeon poops won't be missed.
>>48635085I unironically work in organ donation, we transplant about ~400 livers a year. Don’t do orals lmao
>>48635573Buddy, white shit is cholestasis. You’re nearly at the point of no return. Get off cycle and stop drinking or you will 100% be dead by 2020.
>tell my normie friends I take creatine>wow dude, didn't know would get into steroids
lmao this guy give advice to other people. Every time i tell other people what i spend on groceries they get almost a heart attack
>>48635702don’t do methylated orals proviron is fucking gold
>>48635889probably because we buy everything in bulk and eat the same boring shit every fucking day
>>48635429Stop posting these pictures, it giving a false reflection what woman look like IRL. 95% of the woman have no ass, especially white woman>>48635905Bullshit he's saying clean food. I am also eating clean food onlyClean food like chicken, veggies, eggs etc is way more expensive than shit food. He coaches natties to reduce bodyfat so assume lot of protons to retain muscle and lower some of the carbs. If he would say it's really expensive on top of the crazy amount of money they have to pay for the same shit they can get off the internet he will never get new clients
>>48635702You working with organ donation has literally nothing to do with anything. We all know that people get liver transplants. That doesn't mean using orals here and there will lead to liver transplants.
>>48635770>Send them a bottle of Creatine through Amazon.>Say you sent it to them because you think the feds are watching your place>Instruct them to leave their cell phone and other tracking devices at home, put in a brown paper bag and drop at a park bench around dark>thank them and later give them $50 for their "services"
>>48635943>Clean food like chicken, veggies, eggs etc is way more expensive than shit food. Lol, wrang. I can find all sorts of expensive shit food. Just because you shop at some slum grocery bodega doesn't mean we all do. Walk around a Whole Foods. Plenty of delicious, expensive shit.
>>48635943fuck i misread that. personal trainers are fucking jokes. the only fake natty worth looking into is julian smith because he actually looks decent for being natural / low gear and sells a cheap “daily pump” workout regimen that looks pretty good. big problem is these people get on entirely clean diets and never progress. they get flat and skinny. meanwhile i’m piling cookie dough bites on my frozen yogurt after a leg day and still staying shredded lmfao.
>>48636004Of course you can you cherry picking mongoloid retard, but relatively speaking clean food is more expensive that shit food. That's a fucking fact>>48636035Even worse, all of those people already had muscles to begin with. The only thing they do is just put them on a fucking deficit and wow look at this transformation lmao.Cutting fat is a fucking joke. Putting on lean solid muscle is a different story which takes a long time even with steroids
>>48635943You can get all you need for the week with a tub of protein powder and some veggies. That's fifty bucks a week.
>>48636075That's why you still look like fucking shit. you clueless piece of shit
>>48636100But I'm looking better because of that diet, not the opposite. It's low carb and high protein :) Throw in a gram of test and you're good to go.
>>48636120I hope you die the most horrific way known to mankind :)
>>48636149Jealous I might outshine you soon? Heh, it's okay. There's room for both of us at the top!
>>48636064exactly. or they just get them on fucking tren and orals to get peeled for that progress photo that will generate them business. it’s all a lie. oh well idgaf maybe one day we can make some money with it. >>48636075protein powder is a supplement not to replace food you fucking moron :)
>>48636183>protein powder is a supplement not to replace food you fucking moronWhat am I missing out on? I take vitamins and eat veggies. I'm still getting my nutrients.
>>48636250based and truth pilled.Probably a handful of nuts for some fat but yeah.
>>48636250let’s see your body and we will be the judge of that
>>48636175Come back when you think you achieved my natty physique with steroids. Perhaps we can then have another discussion about it>>48636183Perhaps there are some cases, but i think it's a bit too farfetched in this case. I believe the results are natty, but like i said it fucking easy to make it look like something special when they already had muscle in the first place.When i did first my natty cut(pic) while never knowing what it looks like all under that other fat it also looked like a dramatic transformation
last pic I took as a natty before my first sarms cycle. Oct 2017. don’t miss the soft look at all lol. probably 13-14% bf here 207 lbs>>48636572look good bruh. I personally liked staying 12-14% bf as a natty, just because under 12 and I was flat as fuck. also probably from lack of muscle yeah that’s pretty cool, I just like to constantly build. makes me have major respect for guys like roelly who have built so much dense muscle over the years. they just consistently do things right year after year.
Check out this retard who made a thread about his first cycle consisting of 2.1grams a week of test-e for 6 week>>48636640
Just bought some Nolva. Anything o should know?
>>48636832how do u look now?
>>48637819it's a fucking bait you brainlet
>>48637876i’m doing ok 230lbs this morning fasted
i can't find filtered needles anywhere online, are they really so hard to get?
>>48635943>95% of the woman have no ass, especially white womanBruh didn't you go to Tenerife? Wtf you talking about. Asses everywhere if they're anything like the girls here in Gran Can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64d4MWkYjMMLarry is 23 WTF man he looks 30+. Why do you Americans always look old af >>48636832Cutting natty was literally a hell. All people make fun of me for losing ''gains'', but actually just lost all glycogen >>48638361You also never went to that Benelux. I went to Madrid and Barcelona, but i only saw a lot of fags there that wanted to harass me
>>48634527Where were you when u needed this info u fuck. Im trying to get rid of this ulcer the dbol gave me
>>48638250eBay has them for twenty dollars for 100
>>48635132The gyno is horrific
This thing with the bodybuilder in thailand is going to basically kill the UGL steroid scene.China raws are gonna hit a fucking wall.
>>48638649>Demanding prompt medical advice from a Peruvian Yam Farming Commune
>>48638560it’s all the shit they put in our food bro. especially in fast food. I rarely ever touch that shit only sometimes on a cheat day natty was hell. constantly disappointed even though I was progressing. didn’t ever want to cut because I just got flat as fuck. just lol though at still mogging almost everyone at the gymhas your routine changed at all since you’re on? I just add more volume >>48638649yea i’ll be staying away from orals >>48638688he’s a fucking faggot. just pinned the other day and i look forward to pinning again in a day
>>48638560>You also never went to that Benelux.I don't understand. I thought we were talking about places where white girls have thicc booties>>48638688Doubtful. People will just assume it was due to it being in some dirty ass Thai backstreet
I miss pinning. I always looked forward to that. You know what's crazy? I will never be able to do a crunch or most ab work, ever. At most I can do lower and mid abs, but I will never be able to do any motion for the top abs connected to the ribs. I just realized that last night.I'm going to put my overweight ass on a diet. So when that lifting time comes around I can just get this shit done.
>>48639011Don't stress it bro. Ab work is just a scam anyways.
anyone else shave their arms
>>48639036Yeah, but I'll never be able to do very heavy deadlifts, squats, or OHP. I'll strictly be on a somewhat functional lifting and a lot more about appearance.
>>48639132>I'll never be able to do very heavy deadlifts, squats, or OHPHaven't done any of these except for maybe squats now and again for years lol>and a lot more about appearance.Go chase those aesthetics you deserve bb
>>48639011Why won't you be able to do ab work? I know you have cancer or some shit, but what exactly prevents you from doing ab work?
>>48639165I'm aiming for bearmode. I'm bald and I'm fucking hairy.>>48639191T2-L3 fusion.
>>48629070Assuming I managed to get ahold of gear, how long would it take me to look like guy on the left when I look roughly like a cross between him and the guy on the right (used to look pure right side, then lost all the weight, have been bulking since February and now look like a hybrid)
>>48638688It will have literally no effect other than a few curious non users being more hesitant.
>>48639220Are you sure that never is the correct word? You might be out for a year or so (and you should be, you don't want to end up like Ronnie), but AFAIK people can and do come back from a fused spine (such as Louie Simmons)
>>48639285Ronnie is trying to become a cyborg.
>>48639247You wouldn't get there no matter what. If you're anything like the guy on the right, it means you lack so much discipline that no amount of gear in the world would make a difference.>>48639220Just shave your bodyhair and get lean>>48639109In winter. Sometimes wax in summer.
>>48629130Is it possible to ever look like this /fraud/ friend with or without gear given info related >>48639247????>>48639320Well thats how I looked in the spring of 2016, I dropped from 270 lb to 207, then just sorta did nothing until spring 2017 when I started bulking, and now I weight more than I did in 2016 yet don't look the same, instead have some tone in my arms, can see my pecs moving when I flex them (underneath some brand new man boobs that werent really there before I started my bulk)
>>48639320>>48639343I also just look more toned in general
>>48639247you'd need to cut all the fat first and considering you probably have no muscle mass you'll end up anorexic looking, then you can start roids and from there it's probably over a year of work.with the cut then the bulk? probably like 2 years.
>>48639343>bulked at 207 >now weigh over 270fucking hell what do this board and ss do to people
At what stage did you guys realize that steroids weren't going to actually help you in losing your virginity?
My gear arrived but I'm not done cutting yet, fuck my life. Never go above 15% bodyfat if you're a 30 y/o boomer like me.Also, chink stealth is very comical. Pic unrelated.
>>48640176>buying roody tooty muscle boomies from China Ishygddt
>>48640296>he doesn't know all raws come from there anywayanon...
>>48640296Yeah, I know but it's not my first cycle and I've used this source before without getting necrotizing fascitis or bird flu or whatever.
>>48640176>Also, chink stealth is very comicalI once received a pack full of sealed green tea boxes. Thought that was a nice touch.
Guys pls help, how can I stop acne during a cycle.
>>48641459whats your cycle, include ancillaries and bloodwork (blood taken during acne breakout)
>>48640176Show her penis
>>48641491lol wtf who unironically does bloodwork?
>>48641732let me guess you are too poor? or do you still think self destruction is edgy and cool?
>>48641827>look at me! i'm all grown up and no longer indulge in self destructive behavior like i did 3 months ago!
>>48641893so too poor? gotcha
where the fuck is mong? i’m ready to dominate and crush his soul
>>48632532Tis pretty funny not gonna lie. I only imagine an utter Manlet asking this ?
>>48633200Did you take the labels off to post on /fraud/>pic related
>>48633972Are you on t3 or t4
Anyone got the old DNP pastebins handy? Archive is down for me.
>>48640065actually lost my anal virginity because of tren but ok
>>48642824Just Google "DNP pastebin"
>>48638903Yep stay away from them unless you enjoy shitting in a cup and carrying it into a packed medical lab infront of a bunch of people. Fml. Apparently the breath test I booked online weeks in advance wasn't showing on the computer so I just left I should have stayed to get my hormone panel before I start my next cycle./blog >orals not even once
> dan from bodybuilder in thailand gets massive necrotic infection from dirty gear, might lose his legthis is why i only inject legit pharma gear, even if its more expensive (it always is now, the great demand and supply of the modern black market has done a really good job at making roids from chinese powders really really cheap) and low dose (again, real shit always is now. I dont think there is any human pharma out there still making 10ml multi use vials. Vet stuff, yes, but thats low dose, for example the lakpue NPP is 25mg/ml and even then lakpue is about as dodgey of a real pharma as youd get)i feel like as a culture, steroid culture has become very cavalier about real risks. The only UGL shit i take these days is orals. Everything else, no thanks ill stick to organon and friends.
>365 bench>545 squat>595 deadlift>28 years old>lifting for a decade>6 foot 3>260 pounds>~30% bodyfatThinking test and mast.
> DNPim honestly not aware of anyone who has ever got truly lean with this drug. It always seems to be the go to for cunts who are perpetually somewhere between 15 and 25% bodyfat. They use it to lose a few kgs of fat rapidly but within weeks or months of stopping they've ballooned back up again.
>>48644282To make up for your shit ohp numbers that you conveniently left out of your dumb green blog post?
>>48644631What's it like being retarded? I'm just following the rules of your general, dumbass. Read your own OP.
I'd like to hear from the guys who've actually used cheque drops (mibolerone)How did you feel using it? At what dosage? For how long did you run it? How did it affect activities?
DNP is literally re.ddit the drug. If you can't lose weight naturally then don't even bother lmao
Guys remember, the biggest embarrassment of all is to be extremely handsome just to ugly from one angle
>>48644282what are your goals? i was a chubby powerlifter before trying roids. learned a few things
>>48645201based stroke poster
>>48644655Never has a human being missed a point so entirely while accusing another of being mentally deficient.
>>48644282>~30% bodyfatTry eating less, test and var.
crusader i miss you, post some more photos of your freshly shaven legs :*
>colleague is constantly whining about his receding hair line>tell him there are supplements for it to prevent and or restore some of the damage>NO WAY BRO>yeah faggot, you should take fina in your case because it's pretty worse>searches for the side effects>no fuck that shit bro>okay at least go on that saw + pso and keto shampoo combo then>search for the side effects>no way too scary man, I don't care about my hair anywayDUDE YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT YOUR HAIRLINE IS ALMOST AT THE BACK OF YOUR HEADjesus fucking christ, how do i reach these people
/fit/,Looking for some feedback on regards to EQ and anxiety.Please could you tell me:>How much EQ you were running?>What other hormones were included?>Are you prone to anxiety usually?>What were you most significant instances involving EQ and anxiety?Thanks guys.
>>48646415750 for 20 weeks or so. I don't even know what anxiety is. I dislike eq because it fucks with my libido. Plus it is bad for bp, stupid to control e2, takes ages to work and is weak. Only good thing it did is make my stamina way better. I can do 40 sets of back and still feel relatively fresh after. For me deca ar 400 is superior in every single way. Doesn't mean it will be the same for you though.
>>48646224Saw palmetto gave me testicular cancer, thanks mast!Make him look up the long term side effects of his frikandellen.
>>48646473Thanks for your reply bro.
>>48646415Try DHB instead. >>48646473Don't forget the RBC >>48646507I told him also do you know the side effects of those painkillers you get from the store, fucking retard assThere are so many remedies but lot of people don't even bother about searching for it until it's too late when they find out they look like fucking Smeagol if they are bald
Has anybody a link to the video of David Laid where he wrestles with this other dude in underwear?It was a commercial for something.
>>48646415Ran equipoise at 2g per week at one point and all it did was make my legs veiny as fuck and gave me headaches...(high bp) donated blood and never used it again. Use DHB, Deca/NPP instead.
>>48646643Nobody cares about that faggot besides some twink looking faggots like youI don't hope people in their mid 20 aren't really watching those teenagers for real right. Please tell me that isn't true
>>48646685Lmaooo all the gym shark athletes are trash... except Chris bumstead, dudes legit
>>48646690He's alright, but can't watch his videos. There is something wrong with that dude and the way he mumbles
>>48646707Or is it his annoying ass lisp? Lmao
Drink on of these, instantly have troubling with breathing and feeling like I am passing outbetter not drink too much caffeine during blasts i guess >>48646714I don't know he just sounds like he's mumbling all the time. Wasn't exactly expecting that sound with that bodySame with Ronnie Coleman's voice and his body
>>48646685not him but:>caring enough to take the time to tell someone you don't careyou're such an insufferable insecure brainlet, mast
>>48646768What’s your current blast?
>>48646770How can i otherwise tell you I don't careMy message is important. I bring the message from Jesus>>48646791750 test500 dhb350 mast
>>48646803First run with DHB?
>pin new gear in quad to test it out>low-medium pip>next shot in other quad>the type of pip that won't allow you to crouch because it feels like your quad is going to tearFuck my life
>>48646906>feels like your quad is going to tearI fucking hate this shit, rip
>>48646866Yes >>48646906That's why you always shoot it from behind
>>48646768Dude something seems fucked up with your body. If an energy drink makes you think you're going to pass out and switching from 2x a week pins to e3ds makes you all depressed and fucked up..You might have like serious anxiety or something that you aren't dealing with.
Just bought some Andropen 275 and I'm new to steroids. How often should I inject it and when will I start feeling the effects? Anyone have any experience with it?
>>48646906Man things really aren't getting better for you are they?I remember pinning dhb in my vg and literally being crippled for 5 days, fun times.>>48646968There is truth to this.
>>48646968I was thinking the same about your body, since it contains 99.9% dyel and 0.01% muscle>>48647174Like what?
>>48646949I was thinking about doing next shot in my ass but im sitting for 10h per day so it might aggrivate injection spot.Im bit scared to pin delts because delt pip will affect every single lift but on the other hand i never had any real pip after pinning delts.>>48647174>Man things really aren't getting better for you are they?Shit is only getting worse. Even my gear is in fucking ampules.
>>48629070Anyone here know if Sex addiction is a thing for men or if you have had any experience with it?I'm starting to get severely depressed being in a relationship. Girlfriend puts out as much as she can but I need more. We go round after round for hours on end, and eventually her body gives out. So naturally I stop and let her have some time, but for me it feels like hell. I want to cry after a certain point. Can't even have her over without freaking out the next day craving sex or porn. It sounds fucking ridiculous but it's getting to the point where I can't fucking function like a human being. I just lift and think about sex and try to fuck anything that moves.I told myself the libido just skyrocketed cause the gear but I realized I also had this issue before, when I was younger and natty, and I cheated on every partner I had. I'm determined not to fuck anything up but this is starting to get me concerned in terms of my sexual health.Being single I hated it cause finding a reliable FWB was hard as fuck, so sleeping around was the only choice.Being hitched I feel like shit when my girl is gone and I can't fuck anything, but at least I have some guarantee of sex when she comes by.
>>48647239You're just afraid you will walk a certain way and people are going to question your sexual orientation>>48647507Just take some letro and you wouldn't even look at them anymore
Just got prescribed 200mg of test injection every two weeks just for TRT. Should I try to get it changed to 100mg once a week?
> age 20> 2 1/2 years > 6’2> 170> probably 8-9%bf This is how I plan to run my first cycle, do I have everything I’ll need on that list? Is it an okay beginner cycle?
>8 weeksWew lad
>>48647228Wasn't saying that to be mean in any way. If someone says you might have an underlying mental issue and your response is to blindly lash out with insults...That thing is probably true.
>>48648032I hope this is supposed to be a joke.
>>48647715>you will walk a certain way and people are going to question your sexual orientationI literally never leave my house so that's not a problem.>>48648002>test injection every two weeksSounds like a rollercoaster, but you never told us what ester you will get.
>>48629130On test only? Yes. I don't recommend cycling+pct but instead blasting and cruising. But 400-600 test only and you should some nice gains.Have ralox/nolva on hand for anti gyno and have letro/ana/adex for high estro. Unlikely you'll have estro with just that but everyone different.
>>48629378EQ for cartilage is straight need a decent dosage tho.. Adrol, primo, mast.
>>48631229In powder 2-6. In liquid 5-10. Degradation happens regardless but potency is good enough to still be worth it.Keep cold.
>>48632597Frauding can happen from even younger but cycling is ass. Do blast and cruise for life. IMO wait so at the minimum until you're stable income, not in parents house, and you have a stable daily routine/life.
>>48632777Bloods to see when you are back to normal and then 0.5-1.0 time off/on is actually fine.
>>48633200Not necessarily but it does look booty as fuck. Maybe;High heat, wrong oil that has color, food coloring.Imo this looks like also really oxidized adrenaline. Care.
>>48644271You are an idiot. One infection out of all UGLs and you think "steroid culture has become very cavalier about real risks"? You realize that 1) it hasn't even been determined that it was dirty gear and 2) infections happen all of the time with legitimate, pharmaceutical grade drugs.
>>48635943No it isn't.Buy beans, barely, rice in it's dehydrated form. Legit 1dollar a week type level of shit.Veggies and meat do in bulk during sales times.
>>48644498>>48645169Oddly random posts about DNP out of nowhere. Did a DNP user fuck your girlfriend?
>>48648352What's the website you used to map this? I'm having trouble finding it again
>>48648425this. PCT is a waste of time 2-3 8-10 week moderately doses cycles per year in sync with a spot on diet should always keep you moving forward in terms of progression
>>48648602>8-10 weekdoesn't it depend heavily on compounds used? test fully saturates around 8 weeks mark so it's kind of a waste to stop short, isn't it?
man dont do steroids. i did too much test and t3 it gave me herpes. shits not worth it man
What to add to 500mg test e a week cycle (diet) to get the muscle definiton of a greek god? Tren A? Boldenone?
>>48648352You didn't answer my question. Should I tell my doctor to switch to once a week?It's Test E. I dont l know what Ester is.
>>48648909Tren EFuckers who think Tren-A is somehow better for anything other than testing for Tren-sides and getting off quickly or I guess evading drug tests (faster clearance) are stupidpilledThat said tren-e is often fake so we're assuming you have access to something decent
>>48648888>herpesNot sure if bait or dumb
>>48648473>infections happen all of the time with legitimate, pharmaceutical grade drugsTbf, not really from the drugs themselves. People can have sloppy injection procedures that lead to infections. But it's extraordinarily rare that pharma drugs are contaminated with bacteria, especially when you consider the extraordinary volume of pharma drugs produced.
>>48648923>I dont l know what Ester is.Yeah sorry bro you're too stupid to be taking steroids. Did you even go to a real college?
>>48648861I mean it isn’t a waste and even though the saturation point is delayed, it still makes sense for your overall body health to allow it to bounce back in 8-10 weeks then jump back on cycle. I mean seriously dude think about it, that’s at least 2.5 - 3 cycles per year, which is more than enough for you to grow and also gives your body a chance to recover.i’ve been blasting and cruising. so always progressing regardless if i’m in a cycle or not. think long term marathon brah, just because you’re on gear doesn’t make it a sprint >>48648923yes at least once per week with test e. you’re going to crash hard in the second week. fucking doctors are stupid
>>48648861>test fully saturates around 8 weeks markWhat? That's not true. You're basically right around the top a week in for most esters
>>48648979It's doctor prescribed TRT on a low dose it's not a blast cycle.
>almost run out of test e because source is super slow with shipping. >remember I have some old stuff made with miglyol840 that I wasn’t using for whatever reasonpin 1ml of mig test then remembered later I was allergic to it or something and now my whole quad is swollen and I don’t know what to do. I took some ibuprofen and I’ll orobably take an epsom bath
>>48648861You still gain benefits before blood levels are peaked stable. That being said you "should" front load when doing long esters. You reach your stable blood levels within the first week easily.>>48649438OK so then read the fucking thing and ask the doc some goddamn questions.You need to be more proactive/in control/informed/adult/responsible , senpai. >>48649516Time is the best thing. Feels bad. You do quad injects often, yeah? If it's been awhile or even virgin quads you will get insane pip.
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>>48649667can I frontload a 500mg test E or C cycle, with two weeks of Test P 100mg EOD, I figure that by the time the two weeks of test p is up - the test from E or C will be climbing high enough?
>>48633608>Thinking about suicide all the timeDo it you useless faggot. You are a piece of dogshit >That fucking stupid calculator doesnt make sense. You are the living,breathing example of a stupid meathead.Kys faggot
>>48651228pls no bully
>>48651348Shut up you little bitch. You're autism will not be tolerated here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34hl3V5TCE0Alpha male can survive alone, beta male need other people to survive. I told you the alpha nig has spoken he also explaining why crusader is still virgin : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jRfgRnEviA>>48651228It makes no difference for your dyel ass. I will be also waiting for you twink ass n the fucking afterlife, mogging and raping until the last fucking every fucking molecule is that fucking twink body is filled with my cum
>>48651406Yea,nice dream buddy,like that shitstain master,I would break you in two.Get lost you weak-willed faggot
Time to fucking get rid of those womanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZBvgWVlOc
>>48651554You couldn't mog or rape an ant you autistic faggot. You are a worthless sack of crap. You have no courage and run away at any sign of a confrontation.You are weak
If I take roids and bulk will I gain muscle without lifting? Not asking because im lazy, asking because a herniated disc is keeping me from squatting and deadlifting and im fucking sick of my legs getting smaller
>>48651614Gain? No. Retain? Maybe.
Shall i up the test to 1 gram next week? I am tired of being dyel and I am already fucked in the head and have nothing to live for>>48651583What you thinking about Ice cube's new album?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Fl4Syroc4
>>48651614You won't gain shit besides glycogen and fat if you bulk but pinning test will help you preserve muscle mass. I don't know how much you will preserve without any lifting
>>48651619>>48651639God fucking damnit thats infuriating. Theyve already gotten so much smaller in 4 months.
Just injected the other 375, thinking about pinning extra 250
>>48651634>can't handle 750mg>wants to up to 1gGet some sleep your autism is showing.>>48651693Tren up.
>>48644282200 mg test400-600 mg trenWatch the fat melt away. Don’t do too much test at this bf. Use dry compounds.
>>48651709Lol would Tren give me gains without lifting?
>>48651202You can front load with anything. Find the half lives of the esters you want to do it with and do some math.>>48651614https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101#t=articleResultsYes but only for relatively extreme beginners. It levels off REALLY fast and is overall not worth it. Unless you're dying from cancer in like 2 months anyways and you wanna yolo.Up your leg press, ham curl volume/intensity to make up for no squat/dl.
Starting to build a home gym, what should I add next?
>>48651752No but its a surefire way to retain all muscle. Low test high tren.
>>48651709Why live if you stay skinny. Get big or die tryingMight going to try tren for next blast, see what you dyels are talking bout >>48651800My dick in your ass
>>48651800Cushions or safety bar setup to drop heavy weight with no problem.Something for chins.
fucking making better gains when off cycle than when on. wtf am I doing wrong lmaoI think running higher gear (for me) actually suppressed my appetite a little bit while on cycle. feeling my joints a little more than normal now that the deca has worn off
>>48651833>trenIts a nice compound but no magic. I honestly don't think its for you given your emotional states and anger issues.>>48651884Deca+test right? Must be the definition coming back from the bloat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiTbl-cPwI8You get to master the alone trait to be alpha >>48651884Arms look small, get on that gear asapWhy are you off gear, i thought you never went off>>48651905Why you think so
>>48651920I think he's cruising.You smash and break office supplies already.
What the fuck how aren't these massive bodybuilders covered with stretch marks???? my arms/shoulders/chest are perma fucked from two test cycles
>>48651980Dat dere genetics
>>48652000WHAT THE FUCK
>>48651980Genetics, fake tanning lotion/spray, not blasting super hard at the start, already being thicc.
>>48651634I dont listen to that crap music. It's for low IQ morons like you.
>>48651905yeah man it was test + deca now i’m just cruising on 200mg per week of test e>>48651920thanks bro and cruising now.idk what it was, could’ve been the epistane or deca increase but I stopped eating as much. soon as I came off and jumped on mk677, literally raided the fridge. workout quality has increased by a ton as well. only noticeable difference is the joints.>>48651928I don’t think tren is for me either lmao but i’ll stop being a pussy and run it one day
>>48652135>added mk677I don't think it was the deca slowing you down lmao.Tren can be fun but don't expect super magic juice.
>>48652135Tren sucks. Stick to epi and dhb for utilitarian purposes.
>>48651928Think i will also be able to smash this Indian manageri think her pussy is smelly >>48652135Come one minimum is 250 cruise and preferably 300 test-e Stop the pussy ass approach >>48652098I forgot you beta males only listen to Pokemon theme and manga music
>>48652172nah I don’t. mast sounds like the way to go, but muh hairline. for now it’ll be test + deca or npp (most likely npp). mk is some good shit I may need to keep running it even on my next cycle >>48652227ok. what about for a pre contest cycle? >>48652238lmao at this dose I don’t have to run an AI which is nice. what do you cruise at? just cruise on test?
>>48652266You can run mk677 year round and reap maximum benefits
>>48652266That’s the only benefit. 6-10 weeks out. I don’t go above 350.
>>48652266Did mast + test before which is god-tier for cruise. All my best pictures = low test + mast, but shitty for LDL so had to switch to test only
>>48652280that’s what i’ll do then. have you checked out ghrp-2? supposed to be even better than mk677 but inconveniently you have to pin it I think 2x per day too. >>48652294sounds good then. I have a feeling I won’t need much. >>48652311Fuck. at least you’re smart enough to get blood work done and act accordingly to it. how long are your cruises and cycles now? have you got blood work done on your test cruise? still need to get mine done. oh also running proviron @ 50mg/day
>>48652350I haven't yet. I picked mk for the convenience of it being oral.2x a day pin sounds like a pain.
>>48652350Left was 125 test test + 125 mast cruise, right was 300 test-e from last year. HDL lowered also because of the armidex i increased i recently found out First i did 5-6 months cruises, now 3 months cruises and then check bloods. Why need blood work on cruise if they were already good on your blast
any Canadian bros want to hook a dude up with some Cialis?since i got off gear and lost touch with the community it's been impossible to score some lol
>>48652407Just cruise on dhb.
>>48647507I'd rather have your prob than mine. I hardly ever think about sex / virtually never get spontaneously erect. Feels bad man
>>48652465What were you bloods like on DHB?It's not a DHT so can't be bad for lipids right >>48652469Thinking less about sex = caring less about woman. Caring less about woman = makes you less beta and nervous because you don't want it ???PROFIT
>>48652496Mixed with Tren?Highly elevated ldl and good hdl. Aside from that nothing weird or worse then previous tren blasts.It should be very possible to do something like 100mg test 200mg dhb.
>>48652509Tren or mast is cancer for lipids. Did DHB give you anxiety or can it give it anxiety?
>>48652571No clue. It might, I can't tell you honestly.I've ran both EQ and DHB and been prone to panick attacks in the past but neither gives me any issues.Whats mostly on your mind?
>>48652604>Whats mostly on your mind?Being dyel and ugly and will never make it What else can people think about.
>>48652669My favorite brand of beer and if mvv will win ofcourse. Working out is for losers I have 2 children and I love myself and my frikandellen. Maybe my wife will let me play some fifa tonight.Shit man you're fine, there is always room for improvement but we both know there's no short term easy fix, otherwise everyone would do it.
>bulk and gain the ability to framemog people, but lose the ability to facemog due to bloat>cut and facemog everyone, but look dyel in clothesWhat's the correct choice
>>48652728Keep bulking and cutting until one day you can achieve both.
>>48652689Your gf wants children?>>48652728Up the dose and buy fitted clothes. WE DONT FOLD WE DONT BEND WE DONT BREAK
Hey folks. Never posted in /fraud/ before. I wanted to have your advice on any compound I might take to increase general athletic performance. I don't care that much about mass, I'm an amateur boxer (middleweight) trying to go up two weightclasses. I wanted something to increase generally all athletic features as in speed, mobility, power. The only thing close to what I'm looking for so far was RAD-140, but it's not that potent. So please, any advice? Can be PHs, Sarms, AAS, anything
>>48652407do you know what your total testosterone was on 300mg test e? agree if they’re good on blast they should be good/even better on cruise. 5-6m is a long time to cruise, how long are your blasts usually? >>48652376agree. mk definitely superior for that also noticed i’ve been a lot more chill since coming off and eating more. is that cortisol related?
>>48652776No she absolutely does not want children, at least that what she tells me.What about yours?Man I want to have fuckoff huge arms already to look good.>>48652780Carderine, lower doses of test, EQ
>>48652780> speed, mobility cardarine brah. and won’t show up in a test
>>48652784Eating more in general makes me more comfy but also slower.Would love to give insight into that but my knowledge is mostly pure steroid related.
>>48652784What's the benefit of checking your test level on steroids beside checking if it's legit gear Yeah i just cut too long. I cruise now for 3 months >>48652797Seriously? Why not. I never met a woman they don't want children. They all want them. Or maybe she doesn't want them with you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZBvgWVlOcI don't care what she thinks. Once you start caring it's over. You don't ask her anything
>>48652831We're both antisocial wrecks that prefer animals over people. So there's that.If she doesn't want them with me that's fine as well, she can find someone else if she really wants them.I do care about her opinion, wether I'll act upon it is a different matter. Never hurts to know whats in her head.Also weighed myself and I'm sitting at a comfy 84.5kg, hope it's not purely bloat since I still look as lean.
>>48652807I just seem to move slower outside of the gym. while in there I still try to keep the same intensity but also sweat a ton more lmaocome on dude you’re supposed to be the fucking fraud scientist >>48652831I don’t see the point in cruising for more than 8 weeks in between blasts. how long do you blast for dude? my cycles are 8-10 weeks now followed by an 8 week cruise. Confirmed all women want children. if you’re ugly they won’t want them with you. #1 indicator
>>48652350No one needs much. Not even actual beef.
>>48652868I'm just some dyel that takes way too much juice.Also you calling me ugly bruh ;-;
>>48652863You also don't want them?Caring and not caring. Seperates the weak from the strong. Woman don't know what the fuck they want that's why they man to guide and think for them.Good mang. I didnt weigh myself at all during this blast. I am afraid to the scale like fat ppl >>48652868Depends on the bloods but keep it at 3 months now.Blast is most around 20 weeks.
>>48652797>>48652799I thought cardarine is just for endurance
>>48652919I'm torn honestly. In a way it'd be neat to have a kid, but they come with alot of drawbacks.I don't want children as long as I got things I want to do for myself and I need to able to offer the child a potential future that's greater then my own.Scale can be alright if not used daily, its a good indicator if you're moving forward.>>48652941Endurance is tied to speed in a sense. Endurance is a massively benefitial trait in a fighting sport no?
>>48652896you should be able to take redpills more than the average cuck on this board. women are here for one thing - to reproduce. men are stronger, smarter, and adapt easier to new environments. if a woman doesn’t want to reproduce with you she is either ugly herself/insecure or doesn’t want her kids getting your genetics >>48652919holy shit 20 week blast? do you do one per year?
>>48652958>insecureBingo.Blasts can be as long as you want them to be.
>>48652868>>48652958>my cycles are 8-10 weeks>holy shit 20 week blast?cringe
Finally got gear.
>>48653168>400mg/ml and virgin muscles?Oof that’s gonna hurt
>>48653305it's a blend too lol