Share inspo, routines, and opinions on long hair on guys.What kind of guy fits the long hair aesthetic?Do you think guys should stick to short hair?
>>13985473many models have their hair long because it's more versatile with styling it. depends on the designer and the runaway. the only problem is that it takes too long to grow.
>>13985487If you're starting from a medium-length haircut it won't take more than 1 and a half years to get to a considerable length.
>>13985487How much exactly ? I havent cut my hair like 6 months and only my back hair keeps growing but my front doesn't keep growing that much is 3 years enough to get a legolas style?
>>13985505yes exactly 3 for that length.I got 4. I'm going for 7 unironically.
>>13985505Here are the three golden rules for fast hair growth:>Improving blood circulation to follicles: massage your scalp with cold water during showers, with your head bent downwards>Improving hair quality: eat lots of fish and nuts, dry with care after showers, don't tie them too tightly. Consider hair growth supplements.>Reducing hair loss: work out, do stress-relieving activities, sleep 8+ hours each night, have a balanced diet. If you have stubborn patches that refuse to fill up, dab a drop of castor oil on it before going to bed.Besides that, everyone has different speeds of hair growth.
>>13985505I've been growing my hair for the same amount of time. I found that I had to cut the back to get rid of the mullet. I'm mainly growing out the top and sides, and then I'll grow out the back once I have some length elsewhere.
not crazy long but trying to grow it out to pic rel
>>13985572Thanks these are some good tips
>>13985473I can't really find a good picture but this is sort of what I'm going for but with a shorter beard.
>>13986368Looks fuckin stupid unless you're big and chadly
>>13986425I'm smol and chadly but I don't care. I'm only here once so I want to look the way I want to look.
>>13985473I had long hair, it was quite wavy/curly as well and it took me 3.5 years to get to a good long length. I am good looking with short hair, and with long hair the results were amazing. I have a strong jaw, good blonde hair and generally good features. Girls absolutely loved it or they massively hated the hair. I am quite an introverted guy, the conversations my hair sparked was always good. Polarizing people is a good thing to do in life.If you aren't a masculine looking guy, don't bother or you'll look like a femboy. If you want to grow it out regardless great, although you will definitely want to start working out hard alongside it. You want to workout no matter what to up your fashion, Rick Owens has a great article on this.There are disadvantage to long hair though. The awkward phase for me was shocking, I had a half afro type thing for ages, it looked dreadful. I had to wash with cold water to avoid frizz, and use to not blow dry my hair although I negated this with anti frizz spray later on. This really got on my nerves and after six months or so at a good length, I buzzed it off. The time I buzzed it off I was beginning to develop quite conservative views aswell, lmao. If you're thinking of trying it out, just do it once and don't give in, it's a fun life experiment and I genuinely had fun growing it. I was in a long term relationship whilst it was growing out so I didn't really care how I looked to others but if you are seeking a partner or something, you will want to pay more for your haircuts to minimize the awkwardness of the awkward stage. I didn't see a barbers for 3 years whilst growing it, lol. This website is fucking awesome as well. Used to read it very regularly whilst growing it out. https://www.manlycurls.com/Have fun y'all!
>>13986491Truly a /fa/ mentality.
>>13986522>Girls absolutely loved it or they massively hated the hairCan confirm, half the girls I know say I looked a lot better with short hair and the other half beg me not to cut my long hair.
>>13986522Can you post a pic?
>>13986576Sorry bro, going to preserve the anonymity. I don't have many photos at all either, all on my ex's phone. Lol. I'll post this as a reference point, the hair is identical - colour wise and waviness. I have a similar side profile too.
Just had an undercut two days ago, trying to grow long hair. Can already tie it up, but prefer it flowy. First time in ages with a cut I like.Can be tied, slicked back or aside, or left down which looks like normal longer hair.
>>13987658reminds me of Ivar, take it as you will
>>13987658your chin and brow bone jut out a lot
>>13987680welp, can't be helped
should i buzz
>>13988270dont do it
>>13987676Second person who tells me that! Then it's a job well done as Vikings is where I got inspired
>long hairJust take the buzzpill.I did and I've never felt better.
>>13988654then that makes it 3why the beard though ?
>>13987680That's a good thing, genius. >>13988654I usually dislike chinstraps but you're manly af so its whatever. Real handsome nose, too
>hair looks good>walk outside>/wind/ blows it into my eye and fucks up my hair>hair now looks frizzy and shit for the rest of the dayLong hair is a meme.
>>13986561yeah it's called realizing something quite obvious in humanity.PEOPLE HAVE UNIQUE TASTES. Do what you like for you. And don't get advice about relatioships from virgins on the internet. :***
>>13986491I love you man. Keep going forward.>>13986534yup thats the one. Thats /fa/'s spirit thats what makes someone actually cool.
>>13988687Actually, women have an attraction-repulsion complex and the ones that blurt out something handsome is unattractive to them should be perceived as the crazy slut they are.
>>13988693nah dude. it's all variety you can't generalize humanity. period.Thats not a redpill or anything pill meme. It's called growing up/maturing as a person.
>>13988700If you have thick healthy hair it is shiny and pretty to look at. If someone doesn't like it they are delusional or mentally deficient. You're a relativist, so I think we're done here since I'm arguing in favor of objective beauty.
>>13985473>my hair is as thin as aragons, except im fucking 23Well lads guess its time to kill myself.
>>13988713well people do like my hair and always compliment them but I'm not gonna deny that even tho niche there might be individuals in this world who even like them bald. Its all about all the aesthetic you're trying to provide and how it's beauty is understood by that other unique.Rick Owens married that gypsie looking hag for a reason because beauty isn't a generality. Also they decorate each other so well. Same energy you can tell.
>>13988713Some people just don't like long hair on males dude, that's a fact. It would hardly be a deal breaker, but it happens.
>>13985473I curse my retarded self every day for cutting my hair when it was down to my jaw about 3 months ago. Fuck. i'm so mad. I'm never cutting my hair again.
>>13989153Relax, that’s not even that long. Won’t take long to grow back even if you buzzed it
>>13989153Why did you cut it?Did your friends/SO talk you out of it?
>>13989153did that happen due to social pressure? thats sad if it was that way. take control of your life. you define whats your aesthetic not others.
I am thinking of getting some bangs together with my long hair in order to cover my forehead; does anyone have some examples?
>>13988657I prefer with some beard, yet I dislike staches, and this style is easy to maintain and frames my face well (Imo) >>13988658Thanks! I used to hate my profile as a kid, but it's really not a bad thing now that I'm a grown up, given how many people face the opposite issue, with looking feminine.
Finally a ducking long hair thread.>growing hair out>1 year in>hair is uneven and layeredSo whenever I go to tie my hair in a half bun it tends to have a lot of loose hairs.How do I ask a stylist to cut my hair so it comes out even? Or am I better off allowing it to grow and then trying to even it out?
what do i do with mine? keep growing or get a different cut?
>>13990438Too soft face, are you overweight? I'd trim it and wait until I get past the Babyface phase. Also lose the beard it's still too patchy
>>13990269I'm letting mine grow out until the front is long enough to be put in a ponytail and then I'm going to ask a barber to even it out. I was going to say "even it out" and make some weird hand gestures and hope that gets the point across.
Decided to push all my hair forward and now I look like a weeb.
>>13990655Open your eyes.
>>13985473I had my hair in pigtail braids, like willie nelson, over the holidays. Does everyone think I'm a faggot now?
>>13987658Sexy mf, what genes are these, where you from
>>13990655Look up to the skies and see.
>>13990728I do that sometimes. Don’t forget the bandana
My hair is really thick, which makes it look pretty bad when it starts to grow. Does it eventually get better when it's really long ? Is it worth the weird inbetween time ?Also my hairline is not so great. I have the start of an M, but it's not evolving so I'm not too worried about hair loss.Any advice ?
Bump, don’t let it die boys this is a rare bread
>>13985505Been growing my hair for 3 years going on 4 in October its just past the middle of my back
Do you guys use pomade or anything? I've been using royal crown hair dressing and I just got this old spice pomade that is completely different. It's weird and I'm having trouble with it.
>>13994271Honestly I found that once my hair got to under my chin length, that putting product in was a worthless investment. Would take an hour of my time to do it, assuming that I could actually apply it equally to my hair. Even worse was trying to get it all out, absolutely cancer.Stuff that's really easy to apply and remove like leave in conditioner works fine, especially if your lazy and only apply it to the tips of your hair. Pomade or any regular products was just way too much hassle even assuming I got it in nicely. Although maybe I'm just autistic.
>>13994319>>13994271Also note that if you decide to follow what most people with long hair do and only shampoo your hair like 2-3 times a week, have fun with pomade and other products stuck in your hair while you wait for shampoo day. Even water based pomades and such need shampoo to remove IMO.
>>13986622How do I get my hair to be more flowy like this? My hair goes outwards rather than down.
>>13986522while im happy you made a long post, the only true way is to let it grow and dry natural.
>>13990438Keep growing it, disregard what the other anon said, by the time you get nice lenght your face shape has plenty time to change anyway. Assuming you're not over 22. I'd ditch the facial hair for now though.>>13994413Figure out a washing schedule that works well for you, like how often to shampoo and condition. Also simply growing it out will eventually do it. The hard part is resisting the urge of cutting it all down while your hair is still more wide than long lol, I've been there.
>>13988270I love you tomorrow I'm watching beautiful boy rn and you're doing so great
>>13994319Mine is just shy of chin length when it hangs naturally. It's a little wavy so if I tug on it it is chin length. I might not be using as much stuff as you. I just use enough to keep my hair from being frizzy, not full on slicked down. It gets pretty psychotic looking if I don't use anything. Getting it out hasn't been a problem though. Never tried leave in conditioner but I'll pick some up. >Although maybe I'm just autistic.I mean, if you are then I am. I've only gotten it right once. Most of the time I get pissed off and just consider it close enough. I might be a sick fuck but I don't mind leaving it in for multiple days. Although this one product gets a unique smell once the initial fruity scent goes away. I just put more on to cover it up.
>>13994692> It gets pretty psychotic looking if I don't use anything.Generally I find you don't need product to fix this as long as your actually using good conditioner, the biggest problem if you don't blow dry is the the shower->dry phase. If you sit there and let it dry naturally with no major wind/movement, it will end up looking really fucking nice. Obviously this won't be the case for the majority of time, so a solution to wind/movement cucking your hair and making it frizzy/messy is necessary. Leave in conditioner is generally pretty dam good for this I find. As for blow drying your hair, if its curly it's really fucking hard to do properly without it turning your hair into an afro. I don't even bother because it just causes my hair to turn into pure frizz. Although maybe like this guy >>13986522 you can use an anti frizz spray and have it work.Usually my routine after the shower is pad my hair with a towel (minimal to no rubbing at all), then throw on a bit of leave-in condition in the areas I know that will end up being cucked by the wind. Which for me means the ends of my hair and the hair on my hairline. Finish it off by tying the top section of my hair behind my head and let it dry. I either leave it like that or let my hair down when its 80% dry. Your hair might not be long enough to tie it all the way back, but you can just tie those hairs to whatever is closest to keep it in position. Hair is always different so my solution might not be yours, My hair is pretty close to this guys >>13994557, so make of that what you will. There is a ton of differences though, like it can be straighter/curlier/coarse/fine/thick/dry/oily etc so just experiment and find what wurks 4u.>leaving it in for multiple daysI'm not deep into "hair science" but idk if thats good for it lmao. Also 99% sure it spreads on your pillow and bedding, unless you have god tier genes it will probably cause acne.
When I look at myself with long hair in the mirror or in selfies it looks great to me, and then when I see myself in photos my long hair looks absolutely horrendous and stringy and pathetic. Maybe an odd problem but has anyone else experienced this? Obviously we're never quite satisfied with how we look in photos but I don't have this problem when I keep my hair short. It's really fucking up my decision to keep growing or not. I had someone tell me she liked my long hair better the other day but then I look at it in photos and I'm like damn I look like a seaweed monster.
>>13994767If you don't post any pics how the fuck would we know
I’ve been growing my hair out for about 6.5 years, and for the most part people like, but I don’t really know how to style it. Any tips?
>>13994881I don't like the curlness of your hair man. The color is nice but looks too prince boy with that curlness. It aint bad some might be into it but straightness is better.
>>13994271I used royal crown once and decided it's almost certainly Vaseline mixed with olive oil, I should have tried jerking with it instead
>>13994948And this guy looks like a scene fag, which he is, fuck off
>>13995021its the famous youtuber boyinaband
>>13994881>I don't like the curlness of your hair man. The color is nice but looks too prince boy with that curlness. It aint bad some might be into it but straightness is better.^im completely disagree with this guy. the curls are sweet. and your jawline and features are sharp enough that you can really pull off the long hair. stay up on best practices for curly hair and you'll be good.
>>13995041Doesn't make him less of a faggot
Do I have what it takes, lads?
>>13995544I can smell your insecurity, how do you get up in the morning? Life must be pain
>>13995834You like being a pinyata, don't you? Bad idea to grow long hair
>>13995977Why post my photo after I deleted it, fucking hacker. You've ruin my life
>>13995977You do make fuckable trap
>>13987658Watch out Hyrule
>>13994881Looks good dude, i have similar hair but just past my chin so far. Drying it with a shirt and using a leave-in conditioner reduced the frizziness a lot for me but that doesn't seem to be much of a problem for you. I use a pomade for a side parting, a bit like this picture. >>13994909
>>13996097>>13996074Kek, manly af
>>13990655go to bed jared u are 2 sleepys 4 me
>>13992706>>13994627is it really that much like his?
>>13996790Side profile. How do I reduce poof at the end of my hair?
>>13996818Your hair looks like mine- thicker I believe but we’re around the same length
>>13996790would look better with short hair and def need to clean up your beard
>>13995570I have to work man
>>13994729>don't blow dry is the the showerYeah I gotta quit doing that. When my hair was short and I let it air dry it would sort of shrivel up and do some weird stuff so I picked up a bad habit of blowdrying it.>>13994951I don't mind it I just wish it smelled better. I'm uncut so I don't use lube.
I really want to cut it, but long hair seems to be the best hair
Do I pull it off, or too Feminine?
my hair is long but it's thin. what can i do to make it way thicker?
>>13997488Change shampoo, conditioner, and diet
>>13997461Right now or at least in that photo it doesn't look good on you
>>13995544You could pull it off, and you have nice stubble
>>13997487its too long, id go for something around neck lengthcould look nicealso
I have straight hair on the top and very curly hair in the lower back. It's always tied together and hard to make them separate. Also they tend to get very puffy. How do Curly hair people make them less messy?
>>13997349damn, the bangs + bun combo is GOATis this you?
>>13997487I think it looks good, go for some braids to keep it tighter and more masculine if you need it
Should I keep this shit, it's an older pic, but lengh is about the same
>>13998614nah, but the guy who posted this answered alot of questions
>>13990438lmao fucking hell anon, either buy a Mossberg Shockwave or shave holy shit
>>13999312Maybe he lost a lot of weight eating that prison food?
>>13998663You jelly with your feminine features ;)
>>13987658For the love of God shave that hairy caterpillar you call a beard
>>13990438Anon I can’t lock down why but i dig the combo of that goatee and the hair. It’s not too normie but bro it’s gas
>>13999358Feminem =/= effeminate
How do you guys get your hair to sit in place? Literally a single gust of wind turns me into /just fuck my shit up/ tier.
>>13998784link to thread?
>>13985572>sleep 8+ hours each night, have a balanced dietWell that's the most difficult part.
>>13998673good lenght , on purpose that you keep it that lenght or will you go llonger.
what is this hair called , or how do you ask for something like this.
>>13997487shave the damn neckbeard jesus christ
>>14000801show them the pic??
>>13987658hahahha that nose hahahhaha
What product should I use to achieve this volume?
I've always wanted to let it grow but I never had the balls to go through the awkward phase. Should I give it a go ? Would it fit me ?
>tfw you got memed into a shorter haircutNow I look like a fixing retard instead of a bum. What a surprise.
My hair is the longest it's ever been right now I think. Goes just past my bellybutton. Been washing it only with apple cider vinegar like once a week for about 6 months and it's been working pretty good, no frizziness and feels pretty silky. Only thing that sucks is for my job I have to tie it up all the time
>>14001578Have you thought of putting on muscle?
Who else /embrace/
>>13985881This is the length I have right now. Took about seven months
>>14001640Yeah. I need to lose some body fat too. I have a small amount of muscle underneath a layer of fat
>>13999971it was a couple months ago
>>14001578that's majestic as fuck
>>14001674No, dont worry about it, just go to the gym or do a sport
Why these threads always end up being attention whores shitposting? No we do not want to see your fucking face on a anonymous board you ugly new fags fuck off. Grow your hair and see if it fits.
>>13986561Does ur mum have multiple personality disorder or something?
>>14001179Genetics and/or blowdrying from down up + any kind of pomade
>>14001578So how is nopoo treating you?Do you feel it has a different smell? Is it more manageable? Does your scalp feel heavy, or itchy?
>>14003044ebin joke, +1
>>14001552I think with your facial aesthetics it would look chadly. go for it
>>14003352Because cross-eyed tard is a chad trait am I rite?
>>14000868Noselet jelly as fuck
>>14003260Nopoo is more low effort than when I used shampoo for the most part. When I used shampoo my hair got oily really quickly and I'd have to wash it more often. I have to wash the vinegar out really thoroughly to make sure the vinegar smell doesnt last and as far as I know my hair just smells like hair. Scalp feels good, the only time it was having problems was when I was doing water-only which was leaving my hair too greasy and giving me some dandruff but as soon as I washed with vinegar it went away. I did a shampoo wash like a month ago to see if I wanted to go back to it and my hair was frizzy, poofy, and dry for like 3 days until the natural oils started to build up again
>>13990655why do mutts always have this half asleep look to them?
>>14003689because mr.goldberg doesnt allow them to sleepthey have to be at school at 7 am, you have to work untill late and do some work at homeso the only time for themselfs is too late so use caffeineof course that isnt good
i like my hair, but my forehead is quite big and the face aint too good either so i don't think that ponytail fits me, i think i look better with bit more hair covering my ears and cheeks, so my question is, how bad of an idea is to get hair like that? i am talking only the long bangs with ponytail, not all the braids and colour stuff
>>14003681I see. I tried going nopoo once but my I have crazy bad dandruff and unless I use anti-dandruff shampoo it quickly becomes an itchy, flaky mess.
I'm really struggling right now. I've got nice long hair but I've developed a serious widows peak and I'm starting to feel like my only option is to shave bald.. but I love having long hair so much.
>>14001578ideal bf tier, it looks good
>>14003681How much do you dilute the ACV?
>>13986522disregarded everything this retard said when he wouldnt post pic lol get fucked retard
>>13985473grew my hair out. 2016 was a painful year. 2017 I accidentally let it get too long and cringe at the pics, it was weighed down below the shoulder and made me look like one of those floppy ear scent hounds.peaked in 2018 after 2 successive haircuts brought it clear of the shoulders and returned some spring (mine naturally grew into ringlets)then I got it all cut off.the negatives:1) you'll look like a twat while growing it out2) long hair is a pain in the arse to sleep with, especially if you're not used to it3) the length of time you end up showering triples, and you'll inevitably spend 5 times as much on hair products trying to find some conditioning regime that prevents it frizzing or getting tangled4) you have to think more consciously about how you dress, to dress within a narrower band of what suits it5) you really have to own a look, whether it's the hypermasculine built and bearded but with long hair, the svelte androgyne, or the scruffy chain smoking metalhead. there's not really any middle ground. average joes and greasy fat fucks will ultimately look worse off for it.6) shit blows about in the wind like you wouldn't believethe positives:I dunno, sometimes it's fun to swish?sorry I know you wanted inspo but I don't rate it.
>>14003985Was thinking of getting long bangs + ponytail too, but more like pic related.>inb4 "weebshit"Yeah. I know. It's just to give you an idea without having to sift through thousands of shitty 3d bangs.
>>14004987My problem is how long it takes to dry. I don't like using blow dryers so my hair will need like 8 hours to dry fully and feel normal
anyone here use coal tar shampoo for scalp buildup/seb derm and find that it made your post shower hair feel amazing? Is the coal tar like volumizing the hair or is it just cleansing everything and thats the difference?
>>13988270>>13996710post more you hot little slut
>>13985473where to go from here, laddies
Currently growing my hair out any tips?
>>14005978google "shampoo" and use some
>>14004952About 2/3 cup acv to 4 cup water
Growing my hair out to be like this. Currently 2-3 inches shorter. What products should I use to texture it in a similar way?
>>13997487You look like you just got back from burning churches.
>>13985473i just wish it was thicker
How do I make my hair do the font curls at the roots like pic related?
/longhairs/, is it even worth it? All the dudes I know with long hair always just tie it up anyways, or do like >>14008720
>>14008801it feels good to feel a little unique but honestly it's just more of a hassle to deal with than short hair
>>14008817IMO the maintenance to make it not look like shit is well worth the fact that you now have something semi-unique that you can flaunt and people specifically remember you by.
my mullet getting real long boys but i can do this i will not trim it
keep it or nah
any inspo for guys with big forehead and a round hairline?
I'm quite feminine looking. I loved my long hair but ever since I grew stubble and cut my hair short women have been nicer to me. I miss my hair though. What should I do /fa/, grow my hair out again but look feminine or stay with short hair so women are more receptive?
>>14009510Obvious answer is growing it out again and keeping a stubble to balance things out.
>>13997349How the fuck do I get my hair like this? I've got the length to do it, but whenever I try to get it like that it just looks shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpet5FRAtGwThis guy here has such wonderful hair
>>14009510TRUE answer is to embrace the look you want and completely disregard the opinions of the subhuman female scourge
I've been having an urge to buzz my head lately.
>>14009896Your hair looks pretty damn good anon.Why do you want to buzz?
>>14009896don't, that's good hair
>>14009896dont that looks really good
Just cut my hair after growing it out for two years and only trimming it to maintain medium length.I thought it suited me and people said it did but I was really unhappy with the lack of attention from girls at all, maybe one or two in a single year. Decided to cut it for new year new me bullshit and unironically been getting a lot more attention recently walking through college and feel a lot more confident.Went to a party on sunday and somehow pulled an 8/10 making the 10/10 that has friendzoned me for two years jealous - led to getting off.Will post pics if interested but I am like a 5/10 but feel like a 7 with cutting my hair, basically what I'm trying to say is that guys 18-25 look mainly better with shorter hair, of course their is the 5% that look amazing with long hair but don't let the longevity of your long hair to distract you.
>>14010523Can you post your face with long and short hair, please? Interested in seeing the change, maybe it was all in your head
>>14010629bare in mind about angle, lighting and quality but this is a pic of me and long hair which i was happy with.
>>14010629only photo i could find on pc so maybe not best angle/lighting again sorry
>>14010683>>14010679You definitely look better with short hair my man.You got a rounder jawline and a square forehead; short hair suits you a lot better.Nice smile too. You look like a fun guy
>>14010774thanks my man, you growing your hair out? and are you a brit lad or naw
>>14010785I'm from Italy and already have long hair, just a little past my shoulders.Some girls love it, some preferred me with short hair. Female attention got actually better since I started growing my hair out, but that's the same time I started working out and actually taking care of myself, so it's not really a fair comparison.
>>14010815well nice to meet you italoanon would you mind attaching an image?i have also started going gym the past year and it's a confidence booster
>>14010871I've got a "no photo of myself on 4chan" policy, so I'll have to pass on that.My hair is somewhat like >>14009896 but pitch black and a little shorter. I do keep it in a messy bun most of the time, though.
>>13997349been wanting to do something like this. What should I do while I wait for my hair to grow? Should I get it thinned out regularly? I had been getting undercuts for a while so only the top will come down to about the bottom of my nose.
Anyone have any idea what kind of product to use to get this look?
>>13986555this is my hair right now but black.what the fuck do i do with it
>>14011196this pic is horrifying
Nine years.Apparently its two and a half feet from my scalp.I have no idea what beard combo works.I'm a fatty I know, but people like it regardless.
>>14011214my hair looks that if I rinse it with water after a day or two of not washing it then let it air dry. also dont brush it
>>14007260Sea salt spray
>>13997487Shannon Hoon, is that you?
>>13994881Curly blonde hair looks great.
>>13997461dye it darker
>>14011302 I can listen your heavy metal music to my room
>>14011302hair looks good
>>14009525Hmm, that's what I'm thinking but growing it out again sucks ass. Thanks anon>>14009895That made me feel better thanks spiderman
>>13988655no way hairlet
Keep or cut?
>>13986522can confirm. girls ive dated are either very happy when i cut it or very insistent that i dont cut it, same with beard come to think of it
>>14009352looks samurai on you so keep it. azns have pretty hair.
Any advice for my hair? Here’s a photo after a shower, right now I usually wear it back until it’s long enough for me to tie up
>>13994729Wow this feels like it was tailored just for me i have the same problems. Upvoted thanks anon