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All boot related faggotry goes here. Post your boots, ask for recs, get help and discuss leather care questions here. Post YOUR boots in this thread so we can see each other's collections.

ABSOLUTELY NO DR MARTEN OR SOLOVAIR POSTING ALLOWED!

Helpful links:
>How to polish boots
http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/polish-your-shoes-properly
>Learn about leather (long read but recommended)
https://www.octaneseating.com/leather-buying-guide
>Common types of boot
https://www.heddels.com/2017/12/know-your-boots-the-most-common-boot-types-2/
>(Heddles also includes other helpful boot related articles so is worth a browse)
>other handy tips
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winter boot thats waterproof but can also pass off as casual?
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Stop your DELEGATING
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Buy Swedish shoes
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>>13895510
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Anyone have any experience with Tecovas? I'm thinking about grabbing a pair of Cartwrights
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>>13895598
Here's another pic
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>>13895495
+1 for the comfy trubalance last
without the Indy's stitch and wider sole footprint, it's not that bulky
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Okay so how do I care for my boots without making them shiny? Is there some kind of matt polish I could use?
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>>13895598
I don't have experience with tecovas but Justins are the best imo. Get a used pair on ebay to save $200
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>>13895510
Adidas Terrex Winterpitch, if you don't mind the sporty look, they're great, climawarm/climaproof will keep your feet warm and dry, gusseted tongs, you can walk in 15 cm water and stay completely dry, stealth rubber provides grip, comy eva midsole, won't break the bank, i got them for 50% off last year.

Or get Palladiums.
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Not boots but Goodyear welted shoes related.
What are some dress shoes that that go with a suit but I can dress down to wear with chinos or even jeans maybe?
I've been really liking Allen Edmond's Fifth Avenues since they're dressy but the brogue toecap allows for some casualness.
Anything in that same price range that fits that description? Brands?
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>>13895725
>go with a suit but I can dress down
ae vernon
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Cop or not?

https://www.robertold.co.uk/crockett-and-jones-northcote-wax-calf-boots
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>>13895705
care comes in two ways
polishing and conditioning

depends in part on the kind of leather they're made out of, style of shoe etc., but I guess you're talking about not wanting shiny wax polish (what's sold as generic "shoe polish" everywhere, trash like kiwi etc.)
you'd be right to avoid that; wax polish is for the toes of dress shoes to give them that mirror shine and solely that for the most part (avoid kiwi like the plague if you're looking for wax anyway)
what you want instead is "shoe cream" in the same colour as the shoes
some will make leather more shiny than others, but they won't be that mirror shine
depends on how much you buff afterwards
cream's just for putting the colour back into scuffs etc., some will lightly condition, but depending on your use case this mild conditioning might not be enough
I prefer to condition shoes separately with dedicated conditioner: this shit has no dye like the cream, it's pure moisturiser for leather because as it's dead skin it can't moisturise itself anymore
and moisturise you must to help stage of drying and cracks in the long term (in conjunction with the other two pillars of shoe longevity trifecta: trees and rotation)
depending on what conditioner, you'll be matt or more satiny shine (depends on what kind of leather you're looking to put it on)
of you want a more "beat up" look, ie. you don't mind discoloured scuffs and shit and just want leather care, look to conditioner
cream's for colour
wax for the final toe bull shine on dress
be warned that conditioners will most likely darken the leather to some extent, depending on which one you use (some worse than others in this respect)
might lighten again with wear, might not (mine never have)
so beware when you condition light coloured leather like tan and the like
if you want to keep light leathers that exact lightness then one of the mildly conditioning shoe creams is probably enough for normal use
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Is it becoming more common to not lace boots all the way? I got a pair and the laces it came with are so short that there's only about 3-4 in of lace left when worn and laced fully.
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>>13895835
go buy some longer laces
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>>13895837
I'm gonna, it just seemed weird to sell boots with laces short to the point of unusable. Thought maybe it was some fashion bullshit.
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>>13895838
no, some makers are just incompetent
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How are burton boots? Need a general opinion
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Thoughts?

I know /fa/ isn't too fond of Solovair, but they look good and come cheap, so why not?
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>>13895764
They're beautiful, I'd say cop if you've got the cash.
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>>13895861
READ THE OP
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>>13895864
fuck off
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>>13895864
autism
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>>13895667
w2c
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>>13895705
the other guy is a snob who’s fallen for a meme, literally just get any polish that doesn’t say gloss on it and don’t buff them to a shine and you’ll be fine, there is nothing wrong with kiwi either. Save the pampering for old boots that have really seen wear.

source: someone who needs boots for work and hikes year round, if I didn’t care for my boots right I’d be getting wet feet
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>>13895859
Mine lasted a little over a year before falling apart, looked good though
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I need black boots or brogue, something affordable I'm not wealthy enough to buy Cheaney, Viberg, & co... If anyone with a kind heart can recommend me some good pair.
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>>13896126
Loake
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I need some boots, but I have US 14 feet.

What do?
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>>13896126
velasca

clarks if really poor
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>>13896131
why do fucks like you never mention a budget? it's impossible to rec anything without a budget
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>>13896135
Around £200?
my bad.

Something not too chunky, sleek if possible.

Always considered the meme boots but can't find a place that ships over here that is good quality/isnt rape prices.
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>>13896142
https://www.loake.co.uk/shop-by-style/boots.html

Loake offers up to size 13, which is more or less a US 14.
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>>13896162
sweet, I'll keep them noted and check it out.


Any idea where I can get something simlar to these?
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>>13896199
you will not like the answer, but

solovair
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>>13895864
suck my dick virgin
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>>13896060
Which ones did you get?

How did they fall apart?
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>>13896229
>>13896220
based. this is a solovair thread now.
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>>13896233
long time ago now but i’ll look to see if I can get a pic, the sole cracked
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redpill me on solovairs
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>>13896338
they're made in the original doc marten factory with the OG leather... they're basically classic docs from before they got sold to china
classic english menswear not a lot else to it. if you bash them youre just a brainwashed memer - might as well be a leftie zombie
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>>13896257
Just realised there are two Burtons. You talking about the UK high street one or the snowboarding one?
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>>13896341
afaik they have quality issues just like the docs
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>>13896344
they're $200
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>>13896346
so are meermin, and they are good quality
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>>13895835
Depends on the boot. I lace my Iron Rangers all the way but never lace my White's up to the top
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>>13895861
They're garbage LARPing as quality boots. People buy them acting like they're so great not they're not. They're just not.
They're the go to boot for people who think 100 bucks for boots is gonna get them something good and then because of the placebo effect act like it.
And they're ugly as sin, have shit quality, the leather might as well be plastic, and no self respecting person over the age of maybe 20 would be caught dead in them.

That's Solovair, Docs are all I've said but worse, of you can imagine that.
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>>13896346
You are missing the point. You said that Solovair are what the Doc Martens once were, but the original Docs were very good quality.
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>>13896341
>anything that doesn't agree with me is a leftist zombie
>"but not me guise, i swear, buy more Docs lol"

Spoken like a true leftist zombie.
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Get back to /pol/ with your incel shit
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>>13896511
>anything I don't like is /pol/
Please leave this thread.
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>>13896341
>>13896234
>>13896229
holy fuck this is embarrassing
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I literally just saw a pink haired "man" with a nose ring in the hallway of my university wearing Docs. I wish I was memeing and making this up.
Please do not wear Docs if you want to be taken seriously.
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>>13895510
Any smooth leather boot + dubbin

>>13895705
A thin coat of dubbin can be applied at the end of polishing to give it a really strong matt look, emphasis on 'thin' though

>>13895861
Fa is actually quite fond of solo air it's just this one autist who's started reposting boot generals the second they go down with his cringey don't post things I don't like sperg at the start

>>13896410
Solovair Is good quality. They're hand made boots.

>>13896548
>I literally just saw a pink haired "man" wearing levis, do not wear levis if you want to be taken seriously

>>13896341
Cringe
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>NO DOCS OR SOLOVAIR

>discussion drifts almost entirely into docs and Solovair

Lel
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>>13896561
This is precisely why Doc/Solovair discussion is discouraged. It always derails the thread and turns it to shit.

Just make your own fucking Doc Generals if that's what you children want to wear and discuss. Stop blowing up these threads. The past few threads have been really good because Doc posting was kept to a minimum.
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Did the guy who got the Meermin chukkas ever post an update? Was thinking about a pair myself.
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>>13896554
>Fa is actually quite fond of solo air
ehm, no. its always been heavily divided

i remember when solovair only began operating, there was already a huge debate over it
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can you honestly tell me that these aldens look good? they look so shitty and creased, all for 600 dollars?
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>>13896607
eh, no, sorry. theyre not terrible, but they certainly dont look the same tier as crockett&jones or cheaney
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>>13896607
americans just can't design footwear as well as the british
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>>13896581
So if only autists like you didn't chime in with your doc hating replies, we could just have a civil discussion about a well known brand of boots? Makes sense. Shut the fuck up.
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>>13896671
Cry harder. Why are you so mad about a Japanese cartoon image board?
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>>13896607
They're a little beat up but they're not bad. That sole on those boots is hideous though.
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>>13896679
Should i be so upset that people discuss a brand i don't like on a free website that I ,pathetically, try to ban the discussion and have a fit whenever someone mentions it instead?
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>>13896623
Name some good British brands that rival the big Canadian and American brand
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>>13896690
Crockett & Jones
Cheaney
Alfred Sargent
Tricker's
Edward Green
John Lobb
Church
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>>13896690
please be b8
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>>13896700
Not bait at all, I'm not really knowledgable about brands outside of the North American ones so I wanted some names to check out.

>>13896698
Thanks, mang.
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>>13896607
further proof that amerimutts should stick to streetwear
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>>13896142
>>13896344
>>13896400
>>13896409
>>13896410
>>13896554
quality is a meme
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>>13896698
I've been looking at Crockett and Jones and am curious what differentiates their dress shoes from something like Allen Edmond's who have extremely similar styles, all Goodyear welted and all that but for much less.
I'm curious where the prices come from
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Probably wrong thread but i dont want to make another thread just to ask one question. This is a shoe general more or less.

What does /fa/ think of Paul Parkman (dress shoes). They look great and im interested in their exotic shoe collection but there are a few things which make me uncomfortable:

>most shoes are not goodyear welted
>leather is hand painted
>made in Turkey

Can anyone tell anything about these shoes?
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>>13896774
Crockett leather is much much better than AE
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>>13896774
quality

now, if you think that
>>13896717
you can buy all your stuff from zara/h&m, but the quality of renowned british and italian high-end shoemakers is something you can feel and see
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>>13896220
i've no experience with solovair but isn't it prety much the same as docs?

I tried on docs to see how my sizing would transfer and i can fit a size uk 12 in them. But im pretty sure they're both real bulky
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>>13896788
quality is a meme
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>>13895495
>>13895533
>>13895585
>>13895598
>>13895601
>>13895861
>>13896607
I A B B
D O F
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>>13895948
Alden of Carmel's Color 8 shell cordovan plaintoe boot (Alden's AF53A). They sell out quick so you usually have to get in a pre-order unless the guy has your size.
He had black shell once but I don't think it was popular so he doesn't get any more made.
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bought these, don't expect them to last too long as they were cheap but I'm poor, any thoughts on them?
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>>13897058
theyre okay for sub-$100 boots, but thats not saying much tbqhfamalam
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>>13897019
>I A B B
>D O F
wat

>>13897006
solovair is the same as docs in lots of ways, yeah.
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I've had red wings for about a year. When are they gonna get comfortable?
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this is now /leg/ general
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>>13897162
pffff
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I know timbs are normie black people shit, but are the earthkeepers acceptable? My mom said she wanted to buy me a pair of boots and I hate to have people spend money on me and I found them at almost half price.
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>>13897235
Theyre shitters and they look shit
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>>13897246
Thanks anon
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>>13897079
You got the wrong size. If they were the correct fit they'd be comfy as hell. I was wearing my Iron Rangers for 8+ hours a day most days of the week within two weeks of getting them. They're comfy as hell.
If something is taking that long it's because they don't fit right.
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>>13897235
Fuck no anon. They look like a balmoral boot on down syndrome.
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>>13895861
>ABSOLUTELY NO DR MARTEN OR SOLOVAIR POSTING ALLOWED!
Nigger can you read?
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>>13895495
can i get a rec on a good chunky work-ish boot i can wear with low effort fits? none of this shiny dress boot crap.
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>>13897579
Something in roughout leather. Red Wing has some
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Rec me some quality Chelsea or Chelsea inspired boots that don't have the elasticated gusset, please.
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>>13897296
Not that anon, I ordered a red wing, their size based on reddit collective intelligence, but it was too small for me, every side of foot hurt like hell.

So I changed them into +0.5 size, magically every pain disappeared and heel slipping appeared.
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>>13897235
Looks fine though American normiesh

>>13897579
Chippewa
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where can i get some nice cuban heels
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>>13897748
White's. They do a lot of Cuban heels on their stuff.
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>>13897748
Cuba
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>>13897772
Actually White's, Nick's and Wesco all do
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>>13897672
>recommend me a chelsea boot that doesnt have what makes it a chelsea boot
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If I get enough money while working this vacation, I'm thinking of buying a pair of these, are they worth?
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>>13897943
If you go to gay leather clubs a lot sure
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>>13897162
What model are these boots?
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Been wearing these about 2 years I really love them. Any of you faggots got some leather care advice? I just use mink oil every 3 or 4 months
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is it effay?
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>>13898070
Red Wing Blacksmith
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>>13895598
I have 3 pairs. Very satisfied with them.
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best option for low key black boots under 300$?
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Ordered these for 90$ usd, how do I style it to look good?

>inb4 a noose
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>>13896607
600 for a new pair of that model, fine whatever. For that used pair? Why bother.
They retail for close to 600 anyway if you can find them.
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i have a pair of the like oldstlye classic red lace danner hiking boots which totally need polish but the site always seems sold out and myeh i got lucky and managed a low cost new pair off ebay any suggestions?
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>>13896554
>Any smooth leather boot + dubbin
will this really fully waterproof any smooth boots? Like through salted snow, dirty water, etc? Im worried about spending on quality boots but them smelling and looking like ass a few weeks into winter
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>>13896409
These are not garbage, the only thing i don't like that much is the heel stitch
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>>13897029
now these are properly hideous
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>>13898559
>clownshoes.jpg

I have nothing to add, anon
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>>13897079
I agree with the others in that if sized right there should be no problems. Even if it's the right numerical size however, the actual last (shape on which the shoe is built), just might not be for your feet and that's that. I think the only RW last I can fit well into is the hideously cartoonish munson, maybe; it took me 2 pairs of iron rangers and one beckman for me to figure out that the no.8 last wasn't for me. If after a year they're still not comfy, then the sizing, number, width and/or last, is well off.

The alternative being that you're just a widdle babby bitch cakes whose feet have been cushiony sneaker shod since you fell out of your mother's hole, and at the first feel of some solidity and structure on your feet your underdeveloped foot musculature can't hack it and you fall apart like a sack of soi.

Only you can say what your problem is.
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>>13895764
i really like them, although i'd replace the laces myself
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>>13895764
You can’t do wrong with Crockett&Jones, but I would take a look at the Skye as well. It’s the model James Bond wore in Skyfall.
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plain toe or cap toe?
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>>13898712
cap
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>>13898781
i prefer cap for shoes but plain for boots i think. then again, it kind of depends on the boot's profile
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>>13898673
what's wrong with the laces?
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>>13898809
not enough contrast for the plebs. they need their laces to be some cheap-looking, contrasting color like
>>13897029
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Anybody ever been to the red wing store in Red Wing? is it worth an hour commute?
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>>13898809
>>13898813
i just like how flat waxed laces look on boots, the color is fine
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>>13898813
contrast lacing doesn't belong on a dress boot
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>>13898829
I don't like flat laces. They tend to get twisted.
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>>13897029
>selvedge denim, 4 inches too long and double-cuffed
>with fucking dress boots
>and gaudy lacing
peak MFA and why i'm scared to buy boots. i want something that looks nice, but is also age- and attire-appropriate
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>>13895808
>>13896057
>>13896554

Thanks for the advice anons
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>>13898781
Captoes are for plebians. They separate the upper tier from the "workers". They also destroy any of the inherent stretchability of the leather in the toe. And no boot should ever have a captoe.
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>>13898884
captoe looks the best
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i got these ones
STONE ISLAND M8 OI OI OI
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>>13898916
>I AM ZIPPER, THE DESTROYER OF BOOT DESIGNS
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>>13898920
YEH The zipper looks terrible so that i took out
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any thoughts on frye boots?
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>>13898559
Those? For 90$? Dumbass
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>>13898939
ehh
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>>13898887
no
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>>13897943

Nickleback as fuck.
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>>13899017
yeah-huh
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>>13898939
don't. don't buy that brand. it's really bad. people badmouth docs here, well....frye is just as bad...
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is there a place I can purchase Sanders & Sanders Chukkas in America? Ordering from online only says I can pay in euros or pounds.
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SOLOVAIR
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>>13899382
DR MARTENS
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Been wanting Chelsea's for a bit now. 200 is probably about my budget. Are these any good for that pricepoint or is there a better quality boot for 200?
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>>13899382
>>13899389
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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tfw tryna decide between lowa baffin pros and custom roughout nicks for upcoming season

(I know which choice is more effay though)
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my wageslave job will cover 200 dollars from any boots as long as they have steel/composite protective toe area. What safety boots can pass off as casual decent looking boots?
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>>13899629
nicks
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>>13899658
>he thinks soiboi """workwear""" is more effay than high tech German comfycore

(but yeah, I'm down, just a little apprehensive about dropping $550 and being told "oh yeah, they're supposed to hurt, lol no returns" by bootfitter)
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>>13899667
oh, I read it as Iowa (as in the state), not Lowa. Lowa is based.
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>>13899670
yeah for sure, also very comfy in wides (for me) and quite light

but, you know, custom nick's...hnng
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>>13897875
ai. i thought it was more the shape. okay then please rec me some quality side zip boots.
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>>13898887
i absolutely hate cap toe. the only acceptable exception i've seen was a sort of play on it where multiple contours passed over the toe to give a sort of draped look. i think >>13898884 is right.
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>>13900410
eh, I like it a lot
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>>13896603
>founded 1881
What did he mean by this
>>13898599
Unless you're wading through streams or some shit then yeah. Make sure to put a decent amount on and don't forget where the leather meets the sole. Don't let salt sit on the boots as it will damage the leather, make sure to get a good couple coats of Polish on them, shiny boots last longer because shit doesn't stick to them. If they start looking a bit trampy saddlesoap them then reapply dubbin and Polish.
It does depend on what boots you actually buy, make sure it is actually a decent winter boot suitable for the conditions you intend to use them in

>>13896717
Welp, I guess we can all go home now, we've been exposed as just memeing. It's over, everyone put on your primark plimsolls on and go

>>13898559
>$90
Return them and buy a pair from some weird ebay store for half the price (don't be even more of a moron and accidentally buy fakes)

>>13898583
There are other places to buy polish from other than danners website


>>13896409
Solovairs cost closer to £200 and are pretty decent boots you sperg

>>13899642
I wouldn't bother, having said that Dr martens (cue autists) used to make some 10i industrials that look pretty decent if you seriously polish the fuck out of them. (They used a toughened leather that looks halfway between smooth and roughout)
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Need some boots for winter, but I know nothing about boots. What would y’all recommend me if i want some affordable,comfy, and durable boots?
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>>13899667
not fashion
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>>13900476
>I wouldn't bother
i know it will be hard if not impossible but its a big enough discount that i want to take advantage, i just want something that will cover the minimal compliance of protective toe but wont look like autism shoes if i wear it in another setting. I'll check the Docs though.
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Thinking about purchasing a pair of RM william comfort craftsmans, could i get peoples opinions/review on them and if there are better boots at a lower price? becasue 600nzd is a bit steep
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>>13900687
just get the classics and put a topy sole over it at a cobbler. I own the classics and it makes no sense to my why people would pay the same amount of money for a cheaper product with cheaper materials that is more difficult to fix in the case of a resole. Even without a topy sole it will hold up find i the rainy winters because its a farming boot, unless you're doing something retarded like skating in them.
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>>13900660
They're about £100 new old stock on ebay I think, give or take. Idk what their current line up is like maybe have a look. The that line of approach is probably what I'd do, find fashion boot manufacturers that also have a work wear section.
CAT Have some nice boots imo

>>13900687
I don't know about that specific boot but Williams seems to get raved about when it comes to Chelsea. They probably wouldn't have this ultimate Chelsea reputation if they made shit, even if it were just the one product

>>13900844
N
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>>13900827
love my comfort ones but I don't understand what makes the the comfort craftsmen lesser quality and of cheaper material than the classics. A leather sole doesn't mean that it's instantly of better quality
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>>13900687
>Return
get the comfort- literally the comfiest shoe I own including all sneakers and looks great. get compliments all the time t b h
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>>13900523
Below this price you have to compromise.
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>>13898828
Wearing red wing in store is worth it.

>>13898884
>too retarded enough to say shoes British royalties wear at black tie or national events pleb tier

>>13899160
Try pediwear by paying pounds

>>13899438
Thursdays are worse than Docs and Solovairs we have been shitting on, try Massimo Dutti(more expensive zara) $79 sale boots, probably same or better leather quality.
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>>13900856
My take is It's the comfort lining, basically all synthetic footbed like a sneaker that's sneaker comfy at first but then becomes less so as the longer you wear it as the cushion compacts. The alternative is the leather insole used by all other fine footwear makes to great effect and what all old rm's ever had.
Does get rekt like a sneaker's lining with time, like long term wear on the comfort lining does. I've had both, but I won't buy any more comfort craftsman; only Blaxland (leather insole, synthetic outer) if I can I get that makeup anymore as I have no idea what lvmh has done to the brand since I stopped buying.
In summer, always felt that comfort lining made my feet sweat way more too.
It feels cheap, like a sneaker pretending to be a boot.
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>>13895585
what are these
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>>13901224
they look like some kind of danner or thorogood
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>>13901224
Danner
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>>13895495
Are there any steel toed boots that don't look like shit?
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>>13895495
Indy boots looks so good but that damn welt though. It's huge, I don't like the contrasting colors and it's not a 360 degree welt. I feel like if they just made the welt a little smaller and made it a 360 degree welt these would be some of the best looking boots out there.
The way the welt just ends and leaves the heel looking so small and bare just doesn't look right to me. They need to go the full 360
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>>13899438
try shoe the bear
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>>13901544
i also am interested in this, not looking good for us brother
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>>13901616
I think that there have been some special stockist makeups with a full 360. Perhaps of it were done on a slimmer last than the trubalance?
I used to hate how these boots look, but they're so comfy that I don't even care anymore; nobody's looking at my feet (or any other part of me for that matter)
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Guys. It's December and where I live that means snow. I got no winter shoes. But I really need them asap. I'm at a loss because I don't know what to buy, where to buy it or nothing.

I know I need boots that aren't too bulky/big because of my skinny body figure and skinny as fuck legs. I know I want them to be timeless and leather. And I know I want them to be good quality that will last me a long time.

Secondary priority is that it's an approved brand/manufacorer, one that I can prudly tell when someone ask which shoes I'm wearing. You know what I mean.

Please help me?
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>>13901076
So the only difference between the Blaxland and the Comfort Craftsman is the removable inner "Comfort" sole?
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>>13895495
anyone id these? looking for same sole profile and a similar upper, been looking for a while cant find jack shit
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>>13901792
The comfort insole is not removable.
It's not like they got a normal, traditional rm williams boot and shoved in a removable cushioned insert. This kind of insole is an integral part of the construction of the shoe and cannot be removed, just as any leather insole on any other goodyearwelted shoe is integral and non-removeable. It's the *insole*, not a mere *insert*.
There used to be a model called the dynamic flex that was basically designed for those that needed to add an orthodic *insert* into their shoes and that model did come with a removable insert. However, even that had a different construction, materials wise, compared to the standard leather insole as well.

Thing is, I don't have as much faith in these synthetic materials compared to the old reliable, time tested leather insoles. The comfort insole sure is comfy at first, like any new sneaker is, but leather's been used for an awfully long time in shoes and has a good track record. Synthetic crap lies in landfills yearly with all the other sneakers.
At least that's what I think, no matter how flawed my reasoning may be.
I did notice that, as time wore on, the comfort craftsman stopped being as comfy as a fresh new comfort pair, but the leather insole models only got more comfy as time wore on, or maybe my feet just got used to them. The footbedzor sock or whatever it's called of my comfort pair didn't last as long compared to the leather insole, tearing and shit ensued bit got that fixed during a resole.
Have a pair of both and be done with it. One for summer (all leather insole + leather outsole if your summers are dry) and one for all else.
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>>13901743
Doc Martens
Solovair
Timberland
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do you guys condition your boots straight out of box before using?

or should the leather be fine to break in and wear from the get go? conditioning or not conditioning won't leave weird creases or anything will it?
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>>13901544
>>13901639
how much you wanna spend and what look do you have in mind? Most of the big PNW manufacturers will do a steel toe, which is better looking than your Keens and such imo. also very customizable. whites, nicks, jk, franks, wesco, hoffman, probably some others I'm forgetting. If it's steel toe, it's work wear, so looking good in other idioms isn't as important, right?

danner has a few pretty subdued pairs at a slightly lower price point. maybe skim through georgia/chippewa/thorogood/irish setter at a lower price point yet if you haven't?
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>>13901901
Depends on the leather and the boots were stored/how long they've been sitting around.
An innately oily leather won't need it
But if shit's been in storage for ages before you came along and bought it you might want to condition.
>or should the leather be fine to break in and wear from the get go?
Most of the time, yeah.
>conditioning or not conditioning won't leave weird creases or anything will it?
Not that I've noticed. Might depend on what you're using to condition. Some conditioners might leave a flakey white residue in the creases after a wear or so that can be brushed off. Conditioning will darken light leathers though, so be aware if you're particularly attached to a certain shade.
One thing I do some new pairs, and honestly I have no idea if it's necessary or even advised, but I do use some lexol leather conditioner on the leather insole before my footsweat ever gets a chance to permeate and start doing that thing it does. Alden have comparatively crappy insoles and I hope to mitigate that crappiness in any way. Probably a placebo.
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does anybody know what shoes these are?
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>>13902407
not specifically but they're just generic brown bluchers
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>>13897067
I am brown boots
Destroyer of fits
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>>13902407
red wing postman maybe
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Yesterday i was out shopping and as I waited in line to checkout the single most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life got behind me. She was tall, had blond hair and was wearing...Doc Martens. An old beat up pair that marched perfectly with the rest of her outfit. She was perfect, the kind of girl you write songs about. I may never see a girl that beautiful again in my life.
And she was wearing Docs.
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>>13902552
... and then you blinked several times, wiping the cum from your eyes and realized that the boots were, in fact, Solovairs.
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>>13902486
you are dumb meme
destroyer of discussion
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>>13902566
Nope, Docs. It had the yellow tab and stitching that docs have, not the green of Solovair.
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>>13902552
Is this a good or bad things?
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Black leather shoes were part of my school uniform.
The most comfy brand available back then were docs and most had that yellow stich. They were still being made in england at that stage.
Comfiest school shoes I ever had.
I'm still surprised today to see that docs are popular beyond school yard uniforms.
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>>13902202
250-300
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felt comfortable and warm, fur insides so not sure if its even wearable in above zero degree weather
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My Crockett & Jones Coniston boots were just shipped today

tracking says I'll get them tomorrow

super excited.
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Opinions on Thursday boots? Was thinking about these.
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>>13903240
IF you get Thursday, get the ones that are made in the USA
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>>13903249
how to make sure they're made in the USA? also why exactly?
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first pair of leather boots, paid 180 canadian, how did I do?
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>>13903253
https://thursdayboots.com/collections/mens-boots-made-in-usa

they cut less corners in the USA
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>>13903258
poorly

never ever get boots that both have zippers and laces
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First pair of boots. Got these for 60% off. Can i wear them in light snow and normal rain?
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>>13903261
are vanguards the only ones you can get in the USA?
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>>13903240
shit brand makes shit boots
exposed that it paid shitty youtubers to shill their shitty boots
shills on reddit
shills everywhere
low quality shit not even fit for a poorfag
save up for something better
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>>13903268
No, you can get all of their boots in the USA, but they are the only model that are made in the USA.
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>>13903264
They're not the highest quality boots, no goodyear or anything, but I think they look good, what's the problem with zippers and laces
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>>13903271
sorry that's what I meant, so if oyu ever buy a pair of captains then htey're automatically made in mexico
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>>13903273
because zippers made laces redundant, meaning they are just for show

which is retarded and a waste
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>>13903269
pretty strong words, problem is that new companies paying youtubers to review their brand doesn't automatically make their product bad>>13903278
>>13903278
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>>13903278
so you're opinion is that it's a waste, ok thanks for making it obvious that uou have a worthless opinion
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>>13903276
Yeah.

If I were you, I'd wait and buy something better. Save up some more cash, then buy White's boots. You can get them from here: https://www.bakershoe.com/product/whites-military-police-service-boot

If you sign up for a newsletter, you get a 10% discount code. Best boots you can get that are made in america.
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>>13903285
I'm not going to take critique from someone who thinks that a zipper on lace-up boots is ok.
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>>13903279
it doesn't, but when the company does this in direct response to the wave of negative feedback they were getting from real customers concerning their shoddy work, it does make them bad.
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>>13903223
these are uggs btw
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>>13903286
ugh they look really good too, but over twice as much just seems insane. Here's where I'm at, I see tons of redditters who drool over $500 boots, then bash thursdays because of the pricepoint and "shit quality" but the issue is I can't see the extra worth in the white's for the extra 300
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>>13903302
fair enough, but it's just my personal opinion that it's better to save for twice as long in order to get something better.
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>>13903290
garbage argument, it IS ok, just because you're some elitest doesn't mean your opinion is godsend, Hey guess what, they also have 2 asthetic buckles on the heal :)
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>>13903295
are oyu talking about their early quality control issues? I heard about that, some of the youtubers even mentioned they had issues with they're leather
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>>13903306
keep wallowing, pig.
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>>13903306
listen asshole, you were the one who asked for opinions on your garbage
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>>13903305
ok but i have trouble with this notion of what "better" is. So thursday apparently has a plastic goodyear welt, but if the leather and plastic welts both do the same job and are both durable, why pay more? im using this arguemnt across the board for thursday quality vs expensive brands
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>>13903310
you're so sad aren't you
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>>13903313
quality of leather and quality of construction and quality of the rubber sole
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>>13903312
actually you are the asshole, no asked for oyu do call people retards because their boots have laces and zippers, you have to be grade A fucked to think that shit like that actually matters AND that your opinion about it is so important
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>>13903317
I'm not seeking approval for my shitty boot purchase on the internet

return them if you can
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>>13903318
ahh see this is better discussion. so the leather has been cmopared to chromexcl that the wolverine 1000 miles use. In one video some guy compared the two over half a year or something idk, the leather on the 1000 mile looked terrible, the thursday boots didnt. of course he could have easily lied about the wear time, but still. the story was the same for the rubber, apparently it's a pretty good durable rubber sole. I dont know much about the construction quality which worries me. HEre's my opinion, I think eventually I'd like the save upp 500 for something like whites JUST for the peace of mind, knowing that the boots with be solid without doubt
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>>13903326
neither was I, also was seeking to be berated either. What you ARE diong is seeking a sense of superiority through your shit, baseless opinion. Where ill agree with you is the return, I was really impulsive in buying these and just bought the first pair of leather boots i liked in the 200s, unfortunately I don't think returning is an option at this point
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>>13903332
While the sole of Thursday boots looks like a Dainite sole, it is in fact a cheap imitation. White's uses genuine Dainite. That's just one example of a difference.

Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
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>>13903240
I have those boots, buy a size and half smaller than your normal foot size. I only went down half a size and they are still big. I don't wear mine much because I don't have much to wear with them because my /fa/shion is shit
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>>13903112
Good because I'll be jerking off to her for the next 5 years, remembering the time i saw a literal angel.

Bad because she was wearing cheap plastic looking boots and she should be wearing something much better.
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>>13903224
Post pics here when you get them so we can see.
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>>13903529
How did she even look like and what was the rest of her fit
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>Buy heavily discounted Trickers
>£425 boots can't be bad can they?
>2 weeks later
>still blistering my feet to shit
>Soles of feet are raw and sore
>Literally my knees feel like they're breaking.

Did I fall for the Trickers meme?
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>>13903553
Sounds more like they're the wrong size
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>>13903553
Have you owned boots before, son? You need to break them in. Get back in another two weeks.
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>>13903537
Tall, especially for a girl, blonde and her hair was in a ponytail. She had a black winter jacket and black jeans. And then just shitty beat up Docs.
Sounds like a basic monochromatic fit but she just pulled it off so perfectly, I'm still thinking of her.

I take back what i said about Docs, they still suck but because she wore them I'll give them a pass
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>>13903553
They don't fit. If they were the right size that stuff would be mostly gone or not happen in the first place if they're the right size.
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>>13903553
Looks like you´ve been Tricked.

Seriously though, those boots look too basic for this money.
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>>13898147
SPREZZATTURA !!!!!!!!!
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>>13903590
>>13903558
I'm a 14 on a brannock and bought them in size 13UK. I get no heel slip and they seem to be the right length and width. If they're the wrong size I can't imagine what would need to be different to make them the right size.
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>>13903679
Sounds like you just need to tough it out and break them in more
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>>13903748
alright, I'll give it another fortnight.

Goodnight sweet knees.
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Are there legit Thursday marketers trying to infiltrate /fa/?
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>>13903679
width, last shape (pointy toe vs spread out), heel height, arch shape, lace tightness and pressure, forefoot rocker, volume, probably some other things I'm not thinking about
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>>13900884
>>13896199
anyone know more boots that look like this? specifically the same shape/toebox
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>>13903204
how do you feel about https://workingperson.com/hathorn-boots-h7806st-explorer-steel-toe-logger-boots.html

(they run long and narrow ime, I'm a 12-12.5 D or E in most shoes and my fit in these with thick socks is like a 10.5 EEE)
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>>13903933
>https://workingperson.com/hathorn-boots-h7806st-explorer-steel-toe-logger-boots.html

Im not >>13903204 but fucking christ those are the ugliest things ive ever seen man. just get some timbs or something
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Finally got another pair of Tankers. Interested to see how this Natural CXL ages.
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plen here

what makes Cromexcel leather so terrible, is it durability? Patina? Something else?
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>>13904011
Actual Horween CXL isn’t that bad. Some brands use lesser quality pull up leathers than people confuse for CXL. Regardless all pull up leathers are softer and will stretch and scratch more easily than regular calf skin.
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>>13904000
Natural chromexcel is the only chromexcel worth getting.
The way it patinas and darkens is amazing.
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>>13895495
cop?
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anyone got recs for a pair of winter boots that will last a few decent winters? (salt, snow and rain)
i live in the middle of the fuggin atlantic and my boots just fall apart because i cheap out hard
don't have to be especially aesthetic, preferably under 200 or 150 CAD
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best red wings?
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>>13903240
I don't know about the quality everyone talks about but desu they look effay and flexible in style
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>>13903264
i like boots with zippers, though i prefer a zipper oriented i little straighter down the side rather than what's going on in op's pic. i've been wearing a few pairs with zippers for years and the zipper makes putting them on and taking them off a lot quicker. one of the pull tabs broke on one such boot a while back and it was such a bitch to remove the boot in comparison to the fully functional side. i would suck to have to loosen up all the laces every time i fuck.
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>>13904268
Iron Rangers are best for their everything.
Merchants are best looking
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>>13903532
i will
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>>13903979
definitely dont want something that high cut wow

why do they make work and safety boots look so ridiculous or ugly.
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>>13904323
speed hooks my dude
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>>13903679
My feet were killing me during the break in period for my Red Wing boots. Took me like two weeks of pain to get the initial break in done, and then another week before it got more bearable. Now they are one of the comfiest shoes I own.
You might also be walking badly which would explain your knees, make sure you're not landing with your heel too hard as that will fuck your knees up.
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>>13904248
Bean boots.
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>>13901743
>no winter shoes
>time less leather
>quality (for the price anyway)
My man, you want the Meermin shearling-lined derby boot:
https://www.meermin.es/en/10178711200000he-20-101787-oak-antique-calf-e-oak.html

It's not a bragging rights brand though, they're good as fuck for the price point but it's not something like a pair of Vass boots where you can impress people with the name. [spoiler]Better that way if you ask me desu[/spoiler]
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>>13903592
>never owned a proper shoe

Snigger
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>>13895705
Got these. Pretty comfy
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>>13905167
not too shabby
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this board cant boot, so....
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>>13905385
Wat
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where tf can i get some palladium rain boots in a size 12? and what are some good alternatives?
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>>13904176
no
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Bump
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>>13903553
What i've found from certain premium shoes is that some will be a bit painful in the heel, but due to the way they wire the shoe, literally they wire it, so it will conform to your heel over time, you may need to kneed the structure. but if the shoes are painful in the toe, they are simply not a good last for you. if your foot doesn't fit the last well, it never will.
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>>13906916
why

let it die
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>>13900924
other than marketing and memes, why are thursdays shit
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>>13907097
ugly shit
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How to clean Red Wing boots? Can I use regular natural soap?
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>>13907087

I think you should buy Thursday boots, the luxurious high quality leather and devilish insole will be befitting of your curiosity and contrarian ideals.
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>>13895495
As a poorfag with an internship, what brand is the cheapest I can go to in UK for boots/shoes without being too shit?
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>>13907273
What kind of shit have you got on them if you need to use soap?

I just brush the dirt off, let them dry a bit, brush again to get dust off, then put the leather confitioner they sell on the boots. Keeps them fresh and the leather in good condition.
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>>13907284
loake
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>>13907289
Thx, anything possible slightly cheaper for trying new styles?
I’d like to try different boots but at the same don’t want to spend much since I’m not sure which I will like most but not shit tier fast fashion which will fall apart instantly.
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>>13907293
if you want to try new styles, go into a shop and try on some shoes

no reason to spend money on "trying" something
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>>13895495
just copped these vasque skywalks. p happy w em
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>>13907306
im ok with this
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>>13907287
Dark stains that don't go off with water.
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Also what could be causing those wrinkles ?
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>>13907343
You wearing the boot?
Leather creases, if you're on about the specific pattern of the creases it depends on how you walk
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>>13907355
Strange, I walk normally. The other boot doesn't have those.
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>>13907343
careless pulling and shaking when putting the boot on
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>>13907360
Yeah, I got something weird with a pair of DM's once, probably due to how the boot came out of the box as the first few creases you put into the boot tend to be where the main creases develop from. It could also be that you lace one tighter than the other.

Or what >>13907364 says which sounds pretty reasonable to me also
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>>13907343
looks like normal wear
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>>13907343
Leather shoes crease as they mold to your feet. Babby's first boots?
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>>13907343
It's loose grain on the leather, but honestly it's unavoidable. Chromexcel is really bad about wrinkles like that, which is the main thing people dislike about it.
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>>13907529
are there different quality tiers of chromexcel or is all of it the same?
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>>13907319
Stain the whole boot
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>>13907087
inferior materials compared to those used by more expensive brands
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These are good looking. Hudson's Simpson brogue. Fucking expensive though. 270$ in us. 135 euros.
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>>13907598
no

don't get boots that look pre-worn

it's like getting jeans that already have holes
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>>13900687
Had my Classic Craftsmen in Chestnut for 18 years, I bought them as a 21 gift to myself (they weren't called that back then they were just RM Williams boots had no model mark on them or the box) and I have had Comforts in Black for 5 years, bought when i sent the originals to the factory for a service, resole/re-elastic. iirc they cost $320 AU which at the time ($545 now) would have been approx $200-220 US . There is no other boot to buy imo. I only maintain them with polish if scuffed or milk if they go for a long period without use.
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>>13903240
Thursday is meme shit that I fell for.

Captains started falling apart (heel separation, welt separation, stitches on outsole breaking) after two weeks of wear, and CS is hard to reach. They cheap out on everything and it shows once you put them on. I’m in the process of returning them now. Sizing is really off too.

Don’t fall for the hype anon. If you can afford $200 boots, you can afford $300 boots. Save up and get something better.
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>>13903766
Yes, TIDF is real
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Is it cringe to wear brown leather boots with a black leather jacket?
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>>13903766
i unironically think so, they did it other sites
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>>13907883
No, if you have got something to distarct attention from it, e.g. being still drunk at 8 a.m.
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Want a pair of loden cordovan boots. In this color, not the model pictured.
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Ded Thred
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Should I cop?
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>>13908095
Only if u grill
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Just copped these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GO3X4KK/

Should I keep them?

I have some desert boots but this is my first real foray into expensive boots. Should I be using a shoe horn to put them on? Shoes trees after I've worn them?
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Guys recommend something for cold winter (~-4°F)
Is there really no alternative to timberlands? Something with fur inside and that doesn't look like work boots.
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>>13908571
When will you retards learn that it's impossible to give a recommendation without a budget?
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>>13908571
https://www.cheaney.co.uk/scott-r-fur-lined-derby-boot-in-bronze-rub-off-grain-leather-p681
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>>13907541
Supposedly high quality brands are better about their clicking and making sure the best pieces make it onto the boot.
Brands like Wolverine and Allen Edmonds on the their boots trend to get really bad loose grain, more than other brands seem to. Alden, for being so highly thought of also get it.
My White's in CXL don't have loose grain, so I'm not really sure. Seems like luck of the draw mostly.
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>>13907087
>too cheap to use Chromexcel from Horween, makes their own proprietary kind that wrinkles a lot
>too cheap to use actual Dainite soles
>uses their own that are noticably softer and therefore wear out and need to be replaced sooner
>too cheap to pay actual Americans to make their boots in America
>makes them in Mexico from cheap Beaner labor instead
I can go on, but you probably the point.
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Redpill me on barneys boots. They always have this shit one sale for like 40-60% off. They're Italian made, but dont say much else about them, the type of leather etc. Are they worth the 150-200 they're usually on sale for?

https://www.barneyswarehouse.com/product/barneys-new-york-lug-sole-leather-boots-506129866.html
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>>13908851
I'm finding more and more that these brands are just bad memes and charge way too much based on brand recognition without providing much quality. A friend of mine got some Allen Edmonds dress boots recently, and he had to send 2 pairs back before he got one where both boots where actually constructed properly, fit, and didn't have major defects. Sort of mind blowing that that's what you get for 300-400 shekels.
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>>13908856
tbf i have little problem with MIM things since Mexican fender strats are usually the best cheap guitars in the stores
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black viberg anyone?
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>>13909463



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