Starting new thread. Post brews you're working on.
Anon, piss isn't supposed to go red.
stopped brewing mead after my last four attempts resulted in acidic mead.First try went pretty well without any experience nor help, then tried same recipe and variations after that, resulting in failures.Care to give some tips for possible doings in the future?Thanks
>>1596780I'm trying to turn waste fruit into fuel alcohol. What I'm wondering is if I have to ferment the mash before distillation or if the ambient heat of the distillery acts as a catalyst to the fermentation process (i.e. if I can add an unfermented mash to the distillation chamber and still get alcohol). I've heard that yeast die off at anywhere between 8 and 20% alcohol content, but since the ethanol is evaporating out of the mash, would the reaction continue until all the sugar is gone?Willing to read any resources on the topic. Everything I've found so far has been more about the practical act of either fermentation or distillation (almost invariably for consumption) rather than the theory behind it.
>>1597148Yeast die at 60c. You need hotter than that to distill.
>>1596780I have 2 gallons of skeeter pee fermenting; should be ready in a few weeks.>>1597148Distillation and fermentation are different processes. Not sure what you're trying to get at here.
>>1597148>>1597357Never mind, read your post with more attention. You need to ferment first, and then distill. Fermenting will allow yeast to convert the sugars of your fruits to alcohol. Distillation will remove that alcohol from the non-alcoholic liquid that surrounds it.
>>1597360Can you referment the remaining mash after distillation?
>>1597024Are you properly sanitizing your equipment? Are you using a cloth? Or a proper airlock?
>>1597024I would work on some single gallon batches, or do something easier like cider or wine with juice from a store to get some practice in. I fucked up a ton when I was starting and now I can make pretty consistently good booze. Sanitation is the #1 way of fucking up, oxygen exposure is #2.
>>1597416Just water down your brew so it will be at a lower percentage. Distilling will bring it back up, so it'll be fine. It'll just take a little longer.
>>1597473It takes longer the second time due to the lower sugar content, correct?
>>1597505I meant in the initial fermentation, not with the excess.
Reposting since the last thread died and nobody saw itBanana wine anon here. Set a small batch (around 5 liters) of banana-raisin wine to ferment. The raisins turned the juice all dark. Boiled them in water for around 30 minutes, poured it into the bucket, added sugar and added yeast when it was cool enough.>~1,2 kg of bananas (peeled, sliced)>0,5kg of raisins>1kg of sugar>half a teaspoon of pectolase enzyme>some random yeast I had lying aroundGonna rack it and add some clarifying/fermentation stopping chemicals tomorrow. The chemical mix packet says its gonna take around 2 days to clarify and then I can rack and bottle it. Gonna be ready well in time for May Day.https://homebrewanswers.com/banana-wine-recipe/
>>1597592looks like dirty bath water, anon. good luck.
>>1597592Have you made/tasted this before? Ive never heard of banana wine but consider my curiosity piqued.
>>1597693>>1598013Haven't made it before, just thought it sounded interesting so I took a swing at it. This is a picture from today, I fucked up the racking so I removed the bag and I'm gonna re-try tomorrow. It has become a lot clearer. The mouthful I got when racking it with a mouth siphon tasted quite good, if a bit yeasty. Probably because the stuff in the bag retained the yeast.
>>1597592This looks absolutely disgusting. Maybe consider something that doesn't look like it came from a storm drain, like pineapple.
>>1596780pro brewer here.in the tanks we have3 x 30bbl hazy DIPA 1 x 30bbl blonde ale1 x 30bbl west coast IPA1 x 30bbl west coast DIPA1 x 15bbl red ale1 x 15bbl ipa with lactose also have half a dozen bourbon barrels full of imperial stout, and saison + pastry stout fermenting in pilot system.will answer questions if anyone cares, I've been in brewing professionally for about 5 years
>>1598209How'd you get into brewing professionally? If I wanted to start making my own beer, what do i need and why?
>>1598211I homebrewed in college and worked in hospitality after, eventually I decided that's the direction I wanted to go. I bartended at a craft beer bar and volunteered at the brewery initially, working my way up.I'd buy a 5 gallon extract brewing kit (aluminum kettle, bucket fermenter, etc) online or through your local homebrew shop. brew half a dozen times or so to make sure you're really into it or it's a waste to spend more money on a nicer system.
>>1598203The raisins caused it to initially have a darker colour. In the second picture its much lighter. Might try pineapple after this though. Have you tried it before? Do you know if the meat eating proteins in it will cause trouble with the yeast?
>>1598214>Have you tried it before? Nope>Do you know if the meat eating proteins in it will cause trouble with the yeast?No idea, though i know people do use pineapple juice to do a sourdough starter from air-captured organisms, because the acidity makes it harder for pathogens to grow. Also if you're really worried about it, wiki says 8 mins at 80C inactivates the enzyme.
>>1596780has anyone made a diy glycol chiller? I was thinking about copying the one in attached link with a 5000 BTU ac unit. I have a 7 gallon conical fermenter and am planning on getting a 2nd along with a 3.5 gallon for small experimental batches https://backdeckbrewing.wordpress.com/2017/09/05/glycol-chiller-build/
>>1597416I guess you could, but I don't really see the point. You're better off just adding sugar to your fruit juice (and water as necessary) during your initial fermentation if you're after more volume and alcohol.
>>1598209>pro brewerWhat's it like to be poor?
Making bread kvass time to time
>>1598680I make 60k/year brewing and coach youth sports on the side so its closer to 65/70. My quality of life is pretty good when you consider work/life balance, fulfillment, etc.
Racked my banana wine. Its not as clear as it could optimally be, but I'm thinking the starch from the bananas might cloud it up a bit. Added a the clearing agent and gonna bottle it tomorrow probably.t: >>1598197 and >>1597592
>>1598826How does it taste? Would be willing to give this a try after a couple others I have to set up.
>>1599144It was room temperature and not fully clarified so it wasn't the best sample, but it was quite dry. The banana didn't come through that much
>>1596780any methods for decarbonation faster than letting it sit with the lid half off for a few hours?
>>1598766You should know the joke. You don't go into brewing to become rich. Do you at least get to skip the janitorial side of it?
>>1599221Stirring or whisking, or simmering if the heat won't affect your purposes>>1598214I did a pineapple wheat beer and S04 dry yeast had no problems (though I gave it a whole packet for a half batch) Some pineapple was in the boil and some raw in the fermenter.
Here's the banana-raisin wine bottled. The clearing agent really helped. It tastes a bit tannic and dry. The banana comes through a bit, its not really that bad, just nothing too special. Was a fun experiment though>inb4 ">using 2 liter bottles from Lidl ISHYGDDT"
>>1599354looks like one of my piss bottles
>>1599406Its made from bananas. I think it looks nice and yellow
>>1599354>using 2 liter bottles from Lidl ISHYGDDT
total newbie herei made a little half gallon mead batch just to try it last summer, flavored with blueberries and strawberries. went beautifully, tasted perfect and had a good bit of alcohol. obviously with only a half gallon me and my family polished it off in one night but still.i went and got a 3-gal carboy and just converted all my ratios exactly, made sure to sanitize everything, and flavored it with the same brand of berries. somehow it ended up fucky. initially it was pretty good and we polished off a couple bottles despite having not used any clearing or anything, it was still breddy good. once they had sat around for a few months though, something weird happened. i don't really know how to explain it, but something about them just tasted "off". confirmed by several other people so i wasn't just being an autistic lightweight. ended up pouring out the last two bottles because we just couldn't drink them.any ideas on what i may have done wrong?
>>1599779it may have just turned to vinegar, how were you storing it?
>>1599792just in used but thoroughly washed wine/vodka bottles. some had corks wrapped in plastic, some had just the metal screw-on caps they come with. most stayed sitting in my room at room temperature. some was kept in the fridge, most notably one in a mason jar. something also happened where it build up a lot of pressure, so much where it bowed out the jar lid by a ton. this happened in the normal bottles too but nothing bowed or broke.i used potassium metabisulphite and potassium sorbate as stabilizers, again scaled up exactly from my smaller batch, a good week before i bottled the stuff. it's worth noting i added the stabilizers and the flavoring berries at the same time before putting it away again to flavor.this next attempt i'm not going to fuck around with flavorings, just pure honey mead with only raisins added as yeast food.
>>1599974Well if there's pressure in the bottle, it means something was fermenting in there. I'd say in my personal opinion it's probably the bottles not being sterilized properly. Did you sterilize or just wash well?
>>1600214i don't remember, but bet your ass i'm going to sanitize all of them thoroughly just hours if not minutes before bottling next time. going to make sure _everything_ is sanitized and nothing extra goes in other than maybe spices or something after the stabilizers.
I got an infection and a sour off-taste in my last batch, and some dude on another forum told me I need to throw away all my plastic kit that touched the batch. That's bullshit advice right? Surely I just take even more care to make sure everything is sanitised this time?
Been trying to learn distillation/spirit making. Not a fan of the pure corn taste so today I tried a cereal mashing technique out of Ian Smiley's book.Basically you're using unmalted cereal grains so you have to turn the starches into sugar by boiling the grains. Good write up on the process herehttp://www.milkthefunk.com/wiki/Cereal_MashingI used sorghum, ground to a mealy powder. 30# of that and 5# of malted barley. First time cereal mashing and not really stoked to do it again, pain in the ass compared to using flaked corn. Gonna pitch this tomorrow and hopefully distill it on Thursday or Friday. Sorghum supposedly yields some of the smoothest whisky so I'm excited to compare it to pure corn shine
I got a little kit and made few gallons of beer. I haven't tried like making yeast, and making wort yet.
I only do single gallon beer recipes because I'm severely limited in space. Does anyone have any tips for reconfiguring 5 gallon recipes down to 1 gallon? I've had success just dividing everything by 5, but my latest recipe was all in liters and kilograms. I'm worried I fucked my grain bill up because I did quick math at the brew store and when I ran the numbers again it seems like I accidentally wound up with an extra pound of fermentables in there. Theoretically the ratios are still sound, so would it work to just thoroughly mix it all up and measure out exactly what I need? What would be the harm in overloading my grains? Higher gravity and a possible astringent flavor? It's a dark IPA so I would imagine the hop profile would cover up any astringency.
>>1600902I use beersmith to scale recipes up or down to suit my equipment.
>>1600611Just bleach it and let it air out then it should be good
>>1600611>>1601778what he says, make sure you go over any taps etc real good with the bleach, could be worth checking if you have any deep scratches in the plastic where stuff could gather as well
Has anyone distilled Turbo Yeast with sugar water?I have a packet lying around but I've been told it tastes like nail polish. I think it's BS but I want opinions.
>>1601848Use regular sugar. Turbo 8 will convert 8 kg of sugar into 8-12 liters of 40% after distilling. I wouldn't drink it straight, but that's because I'm a big baby who doesn't like the alcohol burn. Other connoisseurs tell me it has a mild banana flavour. If you want the best results, use triple distilled/pure yeast and 6 kg of glucose. You won't get much out, but you'll have a real nice vodka at the end. I don't have much knowledge of other brands though, but I'm sure they have equivalents.
So i just started my first ever batch in home brewing, i went with a simple 1 gal mead recipe with 3lbs of honey. I used boiled bread yeast as yeast nutrient.After the yeast +nutrient mixture was ready, i poured it into my must, forgetting it was still cooling. Taking its temp, I had pitched at 94 F. I quickly sealed the bucket and put it in a sink of cold water to cool it down quickly, then moved it into my basement once it was about 76 F. Its sitting at 68 F now and bubbling from time to time, so i know the yeast isnt dead, but i read some scary shit about fusel acohols and shit.How fucked am I?
>>1602123>but i read some scary shit about fusel acohols and shitmost of "muh fusels" is pure bro science, dw you're fine, 35°-ish isn't that bad
>>1602133Thank god, looking forward to trying some in a couple weeks before bottling and aging, would hate to have my first batch be a wash.
Blonde ale is coming along nicely. It’s much darker in the carboy than it will be in the glass.
What do you guys think about beer kits? Previously I'd shied away from them because they seemed a bit uninventive, but I'm starting to re-consider now that I've seen some are cheaper than buying the ingredients separately. Thinking about getting the cheapest pale ale kit and then making it more interesting with some custom hops
>>1601848Tomato paste wash with bread yeast tastes better than turboshit. I use a T500 copper still on my sugar washes.
>>1602571What type of kit?Pre-hopped extractExtractPartial mash/mini mashAll GrainBut to your question, yes.
>>1602872Either extract or pre-hopped extract. I was a bit too ambitious with my last couple of batches and fucked them up, so I'm going to go back to basics with the next ones
>>1602928Fucked them up? How? You put too many hops in and it was too bitter?
>>1596780how stinky is a homebrew? I'm going to try brewing some in my barracks, don't want it to be too smelly for room inspections
>>1603270Depends on what you make. They all kind of smell, beer like bread for example, but what you make is important.
>>1603270Not particularly gross, but the yeast smell can get heavy during vigorous fermentation but fruity>t. cider maker
>>1603277I'm making a mead and beer each about 5 gallonsI live in a barracks in the army and I don't want to roommate to complain honestly
>>1597592>banana raisin wineIt already looks like diarrhea anon, go ahead an pour it down the toilet where it belongs.If you like the taste have at it, but some shittastic commercial winery near me made this crap and we're proud of it. It was the fastest I've ever poured out a tasting.
>>1599779What are you using to sanitize?
>>1599974You don't need the raisins. Get yeast nutrient and some citric acid from the brewing store. Check out the mead recipe by Carrie Gary. Raisins can impart weird flavors and add a possible point of failure
>>1601400This.Beersmith is a fantastic piece of software.
>>1603326Mead has next to no smell when fermenting. Sometimes you get a whiff of buttered toast with honey.
>>1603326You should be fine. Dunno about the army, but the smell is fine.
Hmmm making a wheat beer, but the mouthfeel is lacking. Got it to an ABV of ~2.8% (intentionally), and the hops are good. Any idea on how to remedy this?
>>1603518low abv beers are going to be thin. next time mash higher 156-158, and consider adding grains that are less fermentable... light munich, flaked oats, vienna malt, etc. what was your initial recipe?
>>1603543I am aware of that, but I don't want it *too* thin. Original was 50% Pilsner, 40% Flaked Wheat and 10% Flaked Oats. Hops with Cascade & Amarillo (added shortly before end of boil). Mash in for around 45 minutes.Mash in temp was probably a bit too low, will try the 68C-70C as suggested next time.
>>1603545that's the highest percentage of flaked grains I've ever seen! how was the mash? did you need to use lots of rice hulls? could be a good experiment to blend malted white wheat and flaked wheat next time.
>>1603564The mash was good, got around 8 Plato. Rice hulls used, yes, but it was not that much.Gotta try the white wheat and flaked wheat, if I can get access to both.
>>1603374Read the rest of my posts. It wasn't that bad
>>1603568where are you from and what yeast did you ferment with? been experimenting with different yeast blends on wheat-forward saison-y beers myself.
>>1598209Headed to the homebrew store to get my first kit. Aside from the typical instructions to follow, is there anything less obvious to know?
>>1603610A lot actually, but once you'll get into it you'll find out. Keep it sterile though. You always want to keep it sterile.
>>1603610I'm assuming you're brewing extract? big things are to sanitize anything that touches your wort post-boil. fermenter and transfer hoses mostly. boiling pasturizes so you don't need to sanitize anything until you're done boiling. I would recommend buying double the yeast you need (2 packets/vials for 5 gallons, add a whole packet if you're doing 1-3 gallons).fermentation temperatures are pretty important if you want to brew clean, american styles. if it's over 80F in your house, use belgian yeast. if its under 60F, use lager yeast.any ideas what you're gonna make? should be fun - even if you have sanitation issues or something goes wrong, just drink the finished product quickly and it'll be great.
Anyone know of a good recipe for a fruity milkshake ipa? Growing some strawberries right now and would love to incorporate them somehow.
I'm wanting to do this recipe herehttps://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/3508/all-grain-american-honey-wheatWhen would I add the honey? Around the time I would've added extract?Also can I use a reusable "brew in bag" bag instead of a muslin bag for small batches of grain that aren't brew-in-a-bag recipes?Pic of my mead that's almost finished from my gf's gay ass "skyrim" cookbook, tastes pretty good actually
>>16036931.065 target OG60% pilsner malt25% malted white wheat15% flaked oats2lb lactose per 5galsmall amount of hops in whirlpool (1-2oz per 5gal)ferment with london III or gigayeast GY54 at 70F til it's done (a week maybe, pitch double what is recommended)dry hop with 1/2lb per 5gal fruity hops: citra, strata, galaxy, mosaic, motueka, whatever you've got. at the same time as dry hop add pureed strawberries 1lb/gal in a bag with 2 vanilla beans split per 5gal and marbles or sanitized stainless parts so that they sink to the bottomsiphon off the top, carb to 2.7, and drink. your yield is going to be terrible but that's the nature of these beers. >>1603698if you want to taste the honey you need to end it towards the end of fermentation. if you add it during the boil it'll just ferment out like any old sugar would. I'd say after 3 days of vigorous fermentation and try to warm it up a little so it dissolves.yes on the bags, use them til they fall apart.
>>1603707Okay so I should use only the sugars from the grains as my main fermentable sugars?So do you think adding the honey would be best after a week of fermentation in a primary fermenter before I switch it to a carboy for the second week?Could I then use more honey as the priming sugar for when I bottle?I'll definitely be getting a bag, I've been using a muslin bag for my last two batches of ipa
>>1603707Nice thanks man. Not really looking for anything too boozy just something juicy and refreshing.
>>1603709the yeast will ferment the honey too, no matter when you add it. i'd consider honey + grains both your "main fermentable sugars"add the honey after two or three days of fermentation, that way you've got a better chance of the active yeast fermenting it out completely. if you wait too long, yeast begins to drop out of suspension so there's less yeast to get at it immediately = your overall fermentation time will probably take longer and you might end up with a stuck fermentation.i wouldn't bother with a secondary fermentor, it risks oxygen exposure and contamination and doesn't really help much.yes, I would prime with honey, then you'd get even more honey flavor.
>>1603710no worries, same recipe works for a hazy pale ale if you just scale down the grains to hit a 1.045-1.05 OG instead. I'd probably go that route
>>1603714Ah okay that sounds good to me, also less work not transferring to a secondary.Thanks dudeIf any one wants the mead recipes from that cookbook, I'll post them itt, they're pretty good imo.
>>1603376StarSan>>1603377i appreciate it, but no can do. i'm 19 and the guys at the store already don't like my grandpa going in to get basic stuff, because they know i'm the one who actually knows what he's doing and does the actual work. we both went in the first time to get supplies, not knowing i had to be 21 to even be inside let alone buy anything, so once i had picked out a ton of shit based on beforehand research and tried to buy it that whole thing came up. so i basically had to stand outside awkwardly while my grandpa bought the stuff. and when i've needed other stuff since then i basically just have to stand out there and he like, brings stuff to the window for me to check it out before he gets it. you can imagine the guys just trying to run a legit brew store do not care for this at all. it's been a good few months but the idea of going back just makes my inner 'tism go nuclear.
>>1603626looking to start with pale ales for now. I'd like to understand how to brew a well balanced beer before anything else
>>1597592Looks like the toilet backed up m8
>>1603326>>1603270like the other anon said on brew day beer smells kinda bready. I'm indifferent to the smell but my wife loves it, i definitely dont think it smells bad. Fermentation imo smells pretty good and it lasts a few days. If you have somewhere to put it thats enclosed (like a closet, cupboard, etc) you probably wont smell it unless you open the door to check on it.
>>1603764You could check your local laws but theres actually a ton of exceptions to drinking age laws. A Federal regulation that interprets the Act excludes from the definition of "public possession," possession "for an established religious purpose; when accompanied by a parent.So you cant buy alcohol, but your dad can, and of he gives it to you, and stays with you, it's fineYour friends cant have any though unless their parents give it to them and accompany them.
>>1599779>>1599792>>1599974>>1600214>>1600319>>1603376>>1603377>>1603764i'll be honest, i really just winged the recipe based on what i heard the ratio the vikings used was.i'm ready to try again today, so that a batch will be ready for midsummer hijinks. what's a good recipe i can use? preferably nothing flavored, that's what i did the last couple times and i want to just try the basics.if it's important, here's my setup: >a 3-gal carboy and a 1-gal jugi have two 3-gals but i don't want to start six fuckin gallons of hooch, plus i think you need one for racking, right?>potassium metabisulfite and potassium sorbate for stabilizers>Munton's general brewing yeast>for oxygenating i use a drill with a long stainless steel TIG rod bent into a good shape>for the gas release i just use a large balloon with holes poked through ithelp me to not fuck this up /diy/
>>1603764>land of the freeHanding out cars and guns to children like candy but a full grown adult buying alcohol is the end of the world.Why do americans do this?
>>1604773Because half of the country is run by bible thumping, crotchety old people who feel the need to be in everyone's business. The rest of them are just so insecure about their "manhood" that it has made it into the policy books.Instead of>"Wait... I can sense it... Someone is wrong on the internet somewhere. I need to tell them so I can feel superior"It's >"Sweet jesus, someone, somewhere, is having fun, I can feel it. We have to stop this so I can feel like a real man and continue being paranoid about things I know aren't a threat but get a hard-on complaining about"
>>1604674so because /hbg/ and /diy/ in general are fucking slow, i ended up just going with a modified version of Joe's Ancient Orange Mead, without the oranges and all the spices and shit. i just want to go basic with the least amount of room for fuckup.in the 3-gal i'm just doing the JAOM but scaled up from 1-gal. in my 1-gal i'm just experimenting with my own idea again, a 1-gal-1lb ratio i got from some video.
>>1604849Wait so you're doing 1 lb of honey per 1 gallon of water right?I usually do about 3 lbs per gallon, I think your mead is gonna taste pretty dry
>>1604773Pistols cant be owned under 21.Rifles are 18+. Under 18, whatever with parent supervision, but they are never owning it.
>>1604851yeah, the JAOM is 3:1. i'm just running the 1:1 in my smaller carboy for experimenting purposes.
>>1604888ah okay, yeah I'd say if you feel like the 3:1 isn't sweet enough for your liking, bumping it up to 4 or 4.5 lbs might be perfectwhat type of yeast?
>>1604894Flieschmann's Active Dry, meant for bread actually. don't crucify me, that's literally what the recipe calls for and tons of people claim to have success with it.
>>1604894also, turns out i'm retarded and can't into figuring out that the honey displaces the water, so in a 3 gallon carboy i now have more like a 5:1 ratio of proper honey:water. batch is still 3 gallons but only 2 and change of that is water vs just under 10 pounds of honey.so basically this is going to be some hella sweet mead. can i add just slightly more yeast, or leave it to do its thing longer or something?
>>1604898should turn out alright, i've used active yeast before and it adds a bready smell and flavor to the drink
>>1604912adding more yeast won't ferment more sugar since the yeast will stop fermenting at a certain alcohol % it will just ferment slightly faster different yeast strains ferment to a higher alcohol %
>>1604912>>1604923the active yeast you're using also won't ferment past around 8% so it won't produce a super alcoholic mead, but you can add more water to the mix to get more of the honey to ferment if you have a bigger container
>>1604928>the active yeast you're using also won't ferment past around 8%trust me it will unless it's some really onions brand
>>1604898Considering the money you spent on the honey, why didn't you spend a dollar on buying a decent wine yeast?
>>1605001see >>1603764also i only spent like $24 US on the honey. bulk jugs.
>>1605005just curious, why don't you order off of places like amazon?you can get anything you need there without needing an id
Thinking of brewing like a strong ginger ale sorta drink. Any ideas on how to improve the recipe? Aiming for around 5-6% ABV>10 liters of water>1 kilogram of sugar>1000g of ginger>2 lemons (peels and the pulp without the white parts)>wine yeastI'm not sure of how much ginger I should put. The ABV should be around 6% for this amount of sugar
>>1605290>1 kilogram of sugar>1000g of gingermotherfucker
>>1605329I feel like 200-500 grams of ginger would be better
>>1605347Oh I don't care about the amount of ginger you use, the mixing of units was horrible.
>>1605347The cheap way to up the zing on your ginger beer is to add chilli's. 1 per bottle, and only add what you can handle. Don't add the super hot ones if you can't handle them.Ginger doesn't ferment well in comparison to the amount of flavour given, so add more glucose to the brew for alcohol percents.
>>1605406>Ginger doesn't ferment well in comparison to the amount of flavour given, so add more glucose to the brew for alcohol percentsGinger has barely any sugar, so thats a given. I don't really need more ABV, I was just wondering how much ginger should I put in for the gingery taste.
>>1596780Just started a 5gal mead batch.15lbs of honey, 4 gallons of water, around a lb of black cherries I'll be racking out on the 14th. Then I'll be waiting for around 4-6 weeks for it to finish up.
>>1604944This. I use it in my cheap and nasty sugar wash. Get 12% after a week generally
>tfw burnt my bag during the steeping process but the grains didn't fall outAny good mesh bags to buy on amazon?I only have a 5 gallon brew pot
>>1606188I bought a few from wilser brew bags. You send him your kettle dimensions and he custom makes one for you. If you want something more economical some people use paint straining bags and these have several reviews from other home brewers. Description says it has an elastic opening and fits a 5 gallon paint bucket. To give you an idea if it will fit your kettle, I happen to have a 5gal paint bucket from Home Depot and the diameter is ~12 inches.https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Elastic-Opening-Strainer-Pieces/dp/B00C2A9L0Q
>>1605873500 -700 grams? I reckon?
First try at fermentation hereHow can you tell if yeast needs more sugar or if theres too much and you need to add more yeast? I started brewing 2 bottles of cranapple and one is bubbling quickly and the other is doing it a lot slower.
>>1606797Usually fermentation can take 0-3 days to start, just give it a day and if its stuck add some more yeastIf it continues to be stuck add more sugar.
>>1606797Also, should I filter everything through a coffee filter when it's done?
>>1605364he didn't mix anything though
I've been curious about trying pic related since I saw it many many years ago. It's really generalized, so I know there's a lot that this guide isn't saying. Would any home brew veterans please offer some advice for a beginner?
>>1607274Don't use white sugar, it has a badnasty aftertaste. Use something else like raw or brown. Also you would want an actual airlock. That and a bung to seal it will set you back a little bit, but it's worth it to ensure no bad things happen to the brew.
>>1607274Works as long as the jug is clean. If you get a new one and ditch all the water then proceed with pic related you should be good.I'd recommend screwing the cap back on slightly so it acts as a relief valve though instead of the napkins. Or nig rig a proper airlock.
Here's the hard ginger ale. Set it to ferment just now. Hoping it will start fermenting during the night. It looks like one of the jizz bottles from that guy who posts his jizz collection on /b/ every boxing day.>>1606851Coffee filters won't help for yeast. Get a siphon and siphon out everything but the liquid at the very bottom part of the container. The yeast sinks to the bottom, so you'll end up with clear stuff. Pour out the yeasty crap at the bottom, rinse your fermentation vessel and pour the wine back in again. Then wait for 8-12 hours (minimum) for the yeast to sink to the bottom again and repeat. Fining/clearing agents are usually good too since they make it easier.
How can I get a drier IPA? I want to make a Pliny the Elder clone for summer. I made one last year and although it was good, when i tried it side by side with PtE it was considerably more malty.Last year's batch specs:>Extract kit with 6lbs LME, 4lbs DME, and .75lb of corn sugar>6 gallon batch>OG 1.070>FG 1.015>Can't remember which yeast I used I think it was White Labs and either WLP001 or WLP090>~325B Cells for a pitch rate of .85M cells/mL>In the fermenter for 5-6 weeksI have upgraded to an all-grain setup and my new batch will use all-grain + .75lb of corn sugar. Was the maltiness because of extract? Is there anything I can do to get the OG down to 1.010-1.008ish?
>>1597024Acid-making bacteria reproduce faster than the yeast, so you need a higher ratio of initial yeast to initial bacteria to beat the bacteria. You can reduce the amount of initial bacteria by sanitizing as >>1597418 has stated.Another way is to use a yeast breeder that bubbles oxygen into a sugar solution. This will encourage aerobic reproduction instead of anaerobic fermentation. Then put the yeast-enriched solution into your batch.>>1597148>Willing to read any resources on the topic.Have you read Alcohol Can Be a Gas! by David Blume? It goes into the economics of alcohol fuel, different useful feedstocks, how to make your own alcohol fuel from sugar, starch, and cellulose, and how to run various engines and much more.>>1597416Yes, diluting with water and refrigerating a portion of your mash can help reuse the yeast. Note that you are also reusing the acid-making bacteria, so a mash can only be reused so many times.
>>1608054up the amount of dextrose and reduce your malt extract. why are you using both dried and liquid? I'd simplify and just pick one.if you mash at 140-145 it will dry out more, you can also add amylo 300 which you can get from your local homebrew shop to drop it even further. that's how they do brut ipas
>>1608054Ferment at a lower temperature. 15C is what I do, with a lager yeast. Even drier is a low carb enzyme. Pick up one of them to dry it out more.
>>1608124>>1608126thanks for the suggestions I'll try fermenting both at a lower temp and with the enzyme.I had purchased a kit that came with both liquid and dry. I'm gonna try the recipe in link below for my next attempt in about 2 weeks. It uses 2-row (87%), carapils (3.8%), crystal 40 (4.2%), and dextrose (5%)http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2015/10/pliny-elder-40.html
Any of y’all ever had Texian Curley foxtrot? At one point they labeled it an imperial Berliner Weiss but not anymore. Basically it’s a moderately strong (7.5%. Iirc) Marley tart-sour beer. I really want to make something similar but I don’t know shit about beer, only ever really brewed mead and some country wines. Also at the moment I’ve made a ginger bug with whatever natural yeast was on the ginger and this weekend I’m going to try my hand at making ginger beer. Probably just a one falling batch to see how the natural yeasts work, might also do a gallon with champagne yeast cause fuck it. Also because I’ll need the slurry leftover to start some skeeter pee ( never made it before but sounds like a nice refreshing summer booze). So how to get a really good ginger bite? Just stuff as much ginger in as possible?
>>1608152https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/alferman-imperial-berliner-weisse.255777/This might be a good recipe if you're looking for a sour beerbasically brewing beer is just steeping grain for a bit, then boiling hops at different times for bitterness/flavour/aroma and then letting it cool enough to put in the yeastI've never had a sour beer but might try one now
Hey guys, new to this shit. I was wondering whether or not if these bottles would blow up given the amount of yeast I used.
>>1608213It doesn't matter how much yeast is in the bottle, it matters how much sugar is in the closed system for the bottles to convert to alcohol and co2If you feel like they might explode, or are fermenting too quickly, "burp" them by releasing the co2 at regular intervals to get a feel of how much is being produced
>>1608197Hmm that recipe sounds pretty good and nice and simple too. Probably gonna give it a shot as soon as I can get to the brew store. Should make a nice every day beer.
>>1608247yeah the only thing that they might not have specifically is the yeast, but that can be ordered online
New to homebrewing, when a recipe calls for adding hops via a hopback, can I just pour the wort through a colander that has the hops in it? It seems like the same thing really, water flowing through the hops. Is there a difference?Also going to set my first IPA batch to brew today, what are some common mistakes one could make (aside from the recipe being awful and neglecting sanitization)?>>1608213Do you have proper corks on the bottles or is it just the cellophane? I'd say the cellophane would give up before the bottles would blow, but I'd also say get an airlock. They're like $3 a piece.
>>1608362Here's the wort. It tastes quite good already, sorta like a non-alcoholic IPA I could buy at the grocery store. Gonna set it to brew once it cools downt: samefag
>>1608362I'm a little late but, you're probably going to have to run it over the colander multiple times to get the same effect as the hops may take a few passes to become saturated with the wort.Also hopbacks are usually enclosed to ensure proper flavor and aroma.
>>1608494The recipe I'm using doesn't have any hopbacking involved, I just wondered since I saw some recipes that required it.
>>1608535ah okay nvm then
>>1597024What variations? The addition of acidic fruits or fruit juices perhaps?Acidic fruit makes pretty shit melomel imho, unless overly sweetened on the ass.
>>1599183As with banana bread/muffins you might want to let them brown up a bit before using.We're they fresh or ripe? My mam literally let them go full brown, froze them for a week or so, and then used the thawed brown mush in the best goddamn banana bread you've ever tasted.
>>1608607They were browning a bit. The amount of sugar in them doesn't really matter if the juice you set to ferment is under ~330g per liter sugar content because it will become dry if you just let it ferment.
>>1608633Wouldn’t letting the bananas go full black be best though for maximal conversion of starch to sugar? It’s not so much about getting more sugar but rather less starch I’d think.
I'm a frugal alcoholic who's wondering what the cheapest way is to get fucked up every night.I was thinking of just buying large bags of sugar and some bakers yeast but I'd like to convert as much sugar to alcohol as possible because I don't want o get fat. Any advice would be appreciated.
>>1608735just go buy some everclear or cheap vodkayou won't be getting any better bang for your buck if you just want to get drunk
>>1608735freeze distilling kilju
>>1608777This. >>1608735Also don't use baker's yeast, it will not ferment to high enough alcohol content. What you want is a plain champagne yeast. It's one of the most tasteless yeasts and goes to almost 20%
>>1608735Bakers yeast and sugar will get you a decent sugar wine. Fining agents are fairly cheap, $2-3 for 20 liters and you can mix the sugar wine with sugar free kool-aid or whatever if you wanna avoid the calories. Alcohol will always have some calories (7 calories per gram of alcohol) though because its made from sugar. Honestly brewing cheap apple cider from apple juice, sugar and wine yeast will be cheap as fuck too, but I don't know how broke you are. Recipe for decent apple kilju>10 liters of apple juice (not concentrate, no preservatives)>2 kilograms of sugar>1 packet of wine yeast>1 packet of fining agents>5 liters of waterDissolve the sugar into 5 liters of water, mix up the sugar water and 10 liters of apple juice, wait until the liquid is whatever temperature the wine yeast packet says is good for the yeast, mix up the yeast with the liquid according to the instructions and put into the fermenting bucket. Wait for around a week, shake the fermenting bucket at around a day or two before you intend to add the clearing/fining agents. Lift the bucket up on a chair for racking and mix in the fining agents. Then wait for however long the packet says on the fining agents (a day or up to a week, whatever). Then use a siphon or a steady hand and a ladle to bottle your cheap apple kilju. I've made this before and the its pretty drinkable. You can drink it straight up and my coworkers actually like it.>>1608777>>1608744If he lives in a country with retardedly high alcohol taxes (like Finland) he might be better off with sugar wine. Also sugar wine is punk as fuck, so he might wanna do it just for the kicks. Alcoholism ain't cheap but its affordable if you are a smart guy.
Hey guys, does anyone know a good guide to the permits/licences you need to bottle and sell alcohol in california? I kind of want to sell my ciders at the local farmer's market, but know that selling alcohol can be a big issue.
Just wondering, does anyone know the fermentation alcohol output? I'm assuming the yeast puts out exponentially less as the days go by.I was also wondering if I can cut the fermentation short and transfer it to a different container while it is still bubbling, would it still be good to drink? I started fermentation last week and was planning on drinking it this tuesday but it might not be finished by then.
>>1609169Idk about california, but liquor licenses are pretty expensive in my state ranging from 45$ to 9000$ for distillers licensewould you be making decent money from the ciders?>>1609243assuming you didnt measure the specific gravity originally, you can measure your current density and make up a quick batch with the original concentration and measure the density of that liquidthen convert those to specific gravity based on what units you usethen you can use that in the formula Alcohol % = ((1.05x(Original gravity - Final gravity))/ final gravity)/.79this is assuming you can make the original concentration the same as what you did before
Here's the hard ginger ale. Added some sugar and bottled it. Gonna let them rest overnight for some secondary fermentation (hoping for carbonation) and then gonna put them into the fridge to halt the process.
I brew Mead in 1 gallon water jugs. 3 pounds of honey will make about 13% alcohol (with right yeast)I don't brew with any equipment or airlocks, I just screw the cap off until it releases has (the "tssssst" sound) and just let it sit like that for a few weeks.Brew until it's clear, then decant the clear Mead from the yeast on the bottom. Or let it sit longer to age.My next batch in gonna throw some fruit in the Mead as well
>>1609603looks nice dude, what % is it?
>>1609607Fining/clearing agents are a cheap investment. They make ones that do their magic in 24 hours. They make the yeast and other sediments fall down much quicker>>1609611Should be 5-10%. I got a slight buzz from drinking around a pint of it. It will probably get 1-2% more ABV from the sugar I added. Its very lemony and the ginger doesn't come through enough, but its still a nice change of pace from the 15-17% ABV wines I usually make. The 24 hour finer/clearing agent packages I use are a god send. They have silicic acid and chitosan. Makes it super easy to rack the wine and cost like 2-3€ for what could be used on 25 liters of wine.
Am I a fag for just doing kits? Is the jump away from them a very difficult one?
>>1609655I used to do a batch of all grain three times a week, but now I just stick to extract because of work. I'm working on an automated electric brewhouse that should hopefully change that.
>>1609655i'm assuming you're talking about extract kits, correct?moving to all-grain isn't that bad you can start with BIAB and make a small batch with your current kettle to see if you want to make the investment to brew all grain. From there you can upgrade just your kettle and continue to do larger batches with BIAB or get some coolers for a mash/later tun if you want to go that route. If you're talking about about moving from kits to creating your own recipes that's even easier. Start by finding a recipe you like and tweak it a bit.
>>1596780Mead I made last year. About 16% alcohol. Not too sweet, with small notes of orange,clove and cinamon
>>1597592Do bananas and raisins have an absurd amount of fermentables? I feel like your wine is going to be like, 2% abv at the most considering how little banana and raisin you used.
>>1605290ginger comes through quite strongly in brewing. I would reduce it to less than 500g and increase the sugar.
>>1610899I put in sugar too and it was quite strong. Banana has tons of sugar in it.
I currently fermenting some cranberry wine and its starting to smell weird. Initially when it started fermenting yesterday it smelled exactly like I thought it would, cranberry juice with a hint of alcohol, but now it smells off. I made a batch last week that I think went acidic but I wasn't using the proper yeast. The batch im making now doesn't smell like that but it doesn't smell good either. Should I add more sugar/yeast or wait and see how it turns out?
>>1598214Use raisins from green grapes then retard
>>1596780IS there any reason not to ferment in one of those 5 gallon plastic jugs used for office water coolers?
Anyone take a look at this for me? Trying to get above just making cheap piss.19/054.5ltr + ingredients350 gram malt (Can opened 15/03, stored in jar in fridge.)200 gram dextrose4.5ltr WaterProcess: Sanitised everything except for the boiling pots. Used tap water. 3 ltr of tap water in the 5 ltr carboy (untreated). 1.5 ltr of tap water + malt + dextrose, boiled for a few minutes then left to cool.Put in tub of icewater to cool then added yeast after ice is well and truly gone.Wrapped in towel so the temp is more standard and light doesn't skunk it.
>>1613196Fuck I just realized I put 250 grams of dextrose in it.
Thinking of brewing like a 5-6% ABV mild summer alcopop/"cider" type drink from strawberries. Any ideas about this recipe I came up with?>3,5kg of strawberries>2 kg of sugar>3 lemons (only the peels and the "fruit meat", not the white parts)Boil the strawberries and lemons into a juice and brew, add extra sugar in bottling phase for carbonation/drinkability>>1612756The nigger raisins are cheaper and it came out all clear. Read the thread before posting, nigger. See >>1599354
>>1613198Malt and dextrose won't give it the bitterness. That's what hops are there for. It'll probably be more like malt Mead. If you pick up some hops, turn on your kettle and pour out a cup of boiling water with the hops in and let it cool to room temperature with a cloth on top, then toss it in. Should be enough to lightly bitter it.
>>1602123>>1602123I just /firstbrewmead/ too; started with 4lb honey in a gallon, smackpack champagne yeast, wyeast beer nutrient blend. I fucked up the other way (pitched yeast in fridge then added cold pitch to room temperature must) and ended up with a drinkable, albeit sweet, alcoholic beverage. Next brew I'll get a thief and hydrometer.
>>1613007If you sanitize it well first and use a good airlock, no problem at all other than cleaning it after.
howdy senpai. After working for several years for the largest fermentation company on the planet (industry leader in biofuels production), I've finally started to try my hand at home brewing.First 1 gal IPA turned out great, despite underdosing the priming sugarsecond batch got greedy and went for a 5 gallon batch, fucked it up and got it infected. Had to toss the whole thing.Third batch tried 5 gallons again, going for a lager and I think I finally nailed it. pitched on 5/5 and fermentation is juuuuustttt about complete. managed to find a costmetically banged up fridge for 50 bucks - can't wait to keg this baby.4th batch I went for a plain jane mead - tried my hand at making a yeast prop, totally fucked that up so I just pitched some dry cider yeast lol. Took them a loooong time to get munching but they finally took off and that ferm is on its' way - tasted it the other day to make sure it wasn't infected (as I'm super worried about that after the bad 5 gal batch now) but seems great. I do have a question though - has any one here tried their hand at malting their own barley?
Just finished bottling a watermelon wine last weekend, first time using a kit and I dont know how old it was but it turned out brown. The taste and alcohol content were fine and its perfectly drinkable but the color looks like cheap whiskey
What are some nice beginner brews to try? Ideally something easy or something that doesn’t need a long time until it’s ready to drink since I want to try and get my roommate into it. I know mead is just honey, water, and yeast which is what I think would be good to start with.
>>1613439Any fruit/berry wine is pretty easy to make and it should introduce the basic concepts to you.
>>1613439My first was a strawberry wine. Took less than a month and had a nice high alcohol content
>>1613439Mead can take a very long time to make at higher alcohol content. If you do go with mead and want it done quick, you're going to have to keep your lb honey/water ratio low and use a faster finishing yeast.
brewing an IPA this weekend that calls for a total of 10.63oz of hops from 6 different varieties>boil/whirlpool: 5.83oz>dry hop #1: 2.33oz>dry hop #2: 2.47ozBecause my HBS only sells hops by the oz it means I have to buy a total of 13oz of hops. Would the end result be drastically changed if I added the extra 2.37oz of hops during dry hop schedule? ie. I combine all the scraps and divide it up between the two different dry hops times to get ~3.5oz/DH#1 and 3.65oz/DH#2Or should I just throw the extra in my freezer?
>>1614148Can you just increase the barley dose, hit a slightly higher O.G. / add extra water, or just start with a higher wort volume so adding all the hops hits your recipe closer? tl;dr just make more beer to use up the hops?
>>1614148I'd just throw the rest in the freezer, you could always use the hops for a different recipe later on since they last awhile frozen
So I'm currently mad at my government for how fucking expensive even the cheapest piss-lager is. Thinking of brewing american bud lite style crap for maximum cheap beer by brewing an 8% ABV lager, then dilluting it to 4% (water is free), dry hopping and priming it. Any good ideas on why/why not this would be a good idea.Thanks
>>1615158Brewing beer unfortunately is very subject to economies of scale. The more beer you brew, the cheaper you can do it. A general rule of thumb is the 0.6 power. If you wanted to double your production capacity, it would only take 2^0.6 ~ 1.5x as much capital. If that was a million dollars, then it would cost you 1MM to brew X beers per year, but it would only cost 1.5 MM to brew 2x beers per year (you can see how this affects the price of the beer). U.S. refiners that use 6-row malt combined with higher starch sources like rice have an insanely low marginal cost. There are offbrand malt liquors that can come in with a marginal cost of less than $0.50 USD / beer (12oz or 355 mL) before taxes.If this will be for your own drinking, then you're going to be better off to make something you'll enjoy than try to go the ultra cheap route, because you wont benefit from the cheap ingredients cost wise like an industrial process will. However, if you're talking about bootlegging...... well that could be another story.
>>1615285the cheapest piss lager in Finland costs around 1,88€ per liter (rougly $2,10). It will be super cheap to undercut the price. Just bought a can of doppelbock (8,5% ABV) that I watered down. Apart from lacking in carbonation, its not too bad for something I would use to get shitfaced or drink in the sauna. By my calculations I can get as low at 0,29€ per liter for the dilluted "Light" stuff
>>1615354mind me asking how you're doing your calcs?You could *probably* cut out the distilled or RO water for tap water, buy cheaper yeast, not put hops in, not use water salts... but that would get you down to like $1.0 / liter loland this is before equipment costs
>>1615366alternatively you could do like a 50/50 blend of rice and 6 row malt.... But still not going to make it that much cheaper
>>1615366>distilled water>water saltsFucking americans I swear to god. Your country's tap water is so fucked it probably gives you cancer. In first world countries we can brew with whatever comes out of the tap.
>>1615394You can brew with whatever comes out of the tap here too. It's called quality control, though. better control over the ion profile of the water leads to more reproducible fermentation, and better control over beer taste. While I agree that american tap water quality is shit (I specialize in water treatment) what i'm saying is true overseas too.
>>1615398We're talking about cheap stuff here. I'm only brewing this because I'm pissed at the government.
Redpill me on glass carboys, lads. I read somewhere that you can't pasteurize them but I haven't had any problems pasteurizing el cheapo wine bottles and can't see why it would be an issue.
>>1615527Only thermal shock could be an issue, cracked a carboy that way once.
>>1615527whoever said you can't pasturize them is wrong. what do you want to know? people use them because they're cheap, and glass doesn't really harbor bacteria. problems are that they are heavy and hard to move when full, can break/crack fairly easily, and with such a small opening can be hard to clean
>>1615399hey I'm american, I hate my government just as much as the next guy - I'm just talking about numbers.If you used:>6 row malt barley>replaced 5 lbs of barley with 5 lbs of cooked rice (cheaper)>cheap dry yeast instead of smack pack>shitty tap water (free)>no hops>no water conditioners>minimum amount of starsan possibleyou're still at $0.85 USD / Liter in ingredients before purchasing equipment, no? Not sure which i guess the cutoff is $2.10 per liter, so yeah there's some economic incentive there for sure.
>>1614148the difference would be negligible, and if anything more dry hop would make your IPA taste better. consider changing your ratios, whirlpool hops contribute much less flavor than dry hop. I'd do 2oz whirlpool, 10oz dry hop #1. overcomplicated recipes are a sure sign of amateur brewers/recipes.
>>1600883hey it turned out ok. the best was a cup i let sit out all night. so maybe if it tastes weak, just let it breath a few hours.