https://www.polygon.com/2020/1/13/21060674/marvel-comics-new-x-men-series-x-factor-leah-williamsTL;DR:>new X-Factor series coming out>Written by Leah Williams, art by David Baldeón, both just off Gwenpool Strikes Back>Features Northstar, Eye-boy, Rachel Grey, Prodigy, Polaris, and Daken as a team whose job is to investigate and confirm mutant deaths as to prevent The Five from resurrecting a mutant who is still alive>Will also feature a bigger focus on The Five than we've seen before>Blob is set to have a role, and Northstar's husband Kyle will have focus on his situation of being an adult human on Krakoa>The book will have a mystery tone and readers are encouraged to discuss and try and figure out the mysteries as they read>Issue 1 will be 48 pages and comes out in April
X-FACTOR INVESTIGATIONS 2.0
>>112526371>investigate and confirm mutant deaths as to prevent The Five from resurrecting a mutant who is still aliveSo basically it is just cloning.
Half the cast is gay, I wonder if they're going to try some home wrecking, Prodigy's good for that.
>GSA Creative Team>Blob is back and also in Percy's X-Force>The Five in in focus>Mystery BookCount me in
>>112526371>his situation of being an adult human on Krakoaso it's NOT mutant onlyi wish they'd stop trying to make eye boy happen
>>112526371>and Northstar's husband Kyle will have focus on his situation of being an adult human on KrakoaOh, it's sure nice to allow non mutant family members on Krakoa!
>>112526903Eh, it's the lifecycle of a young mutant. 10 years or so of "Stop trying to make ____ happen" and then they either go away or actually blow up.
>>112526371>Rachel>Polaris>DakenYay!>NorthstarOkay.>Eyeboy>ProdigyOh no...>Leah WilliamsUgh...Gonna be a pass from me.
>>112526371I haven't fucked with X-Men in awhile, Prodigy got his powers back?
Hard pass, that's a tumblr cover
>>112527876Really? My first thought was a botched Animorphs reference.
>>112526921Shogo is allowed, though?
>>112527876What the fuck is a tumblr cover you inbred
>>112527396Not to my knowledge. Although it'd be weird if they didn't manage to unfuck House of M'd mutants at this stage.Also it's not like it matters. Ever since Gillen retconned him bi, he's just another "that homo guy" character.
>>112527396According to the interview, yes.
>>112526371Sounds great. Sign me up.
>>112526371Is the X-office incapable of making a second wave book that doesn't have garbage roster?
gonna end up blocked from yelling at leah to give rachel a girlfriend
>>112528009I'd be surprised if she doesn't do it down the road, honestly. Looks like she's been waiting for the chance.
there's no shortage to characters having been shit on... the amount of trash piled on Rachel, Daken and Lorna is equal to that of Jamie, Guido and Wolfsbane. I'll give it a chance... Love how half the characters are generational - the mutant royalty of Magneto, Wolverine, Jean Grey and (depending on what origin you subscribe to for Rachel) Cyclops.
>>112527929>minorityteam plus that shitty coloring that I see in webcomics to fill in background for lazy artists
>>112528164I think you simply stopped at "minority team" and filled the gaps with whatever nonsense you thought justified your dumbass bias.
>>112528175also Daken and Prodigy are the only people of color.
Leah on Twitter is promising to answer all the big questions regarding resurrection. Answering what happens in the case of suicide, mutants who don't want to be brought back, or mutants who want to be "refreshed" by dying and returning.
>>112528237Also somebody asked about trans mutants and if they resurrect in the gender that better reflects their identity, and she said that's one of the themes that will be explored.
>>112528261that's gonna be a fun storytime thread
>>112526371So a faggotry containment book? Good I don't have to buy it. I do wish Leah would post more selfies.
>>112528348Sweetie, all X-Men books are LGBT friendly.
>>112528365Lol. Sweetie "I'm such a danger to society for existing" is not LGBTQ friendly. People who think this secretly thin faggots are insidious.
>>112527396In X-Men Blue Mothervine got used to reactivate the X-Gene of a ton of mutants that got depowered from M-Day so it's probably gonna get attributed to that.
>>112528237But is she posing boobie selfies?
Leah "queer bait her dumb twitter fans while dating a gamergator" Williams
>>112526371her Mar Jane and the last issues of Gwenpool were good, and Gwenpool's other issues were bad because cringy, which was likely the point, so I'm willing to give her at the very least a chance
>>112528642It's amazing how the first two issues of GSB were so much worse than the last three. All they were useful for was establishing her desperation, which could've been reduced to a page.
>>112527396He probably just killed himself so he could be resurrected with powers.
This book looks like shit, but I don't think anything can be worse than fallen angels, so I consider this a small victory.
>>112526371>Northstar's husband Kyle will have focus on his situation of being an adult human on KrakoaSo when will they let Juggernaut crash on Black Tom's couch?
>>112529011furious about this
>>112526371So what exactly will Blob's role be now that he's supposed to be a nice guy? I wonder if he'll hang out with Pyro again.
Friendly reminder that:1. Absolutely NOBODY gives a fuck about the X-Men anymore.2. /co/ actively wants ALL mutants characters murdered as brutally as possible and their corpses raped.3. This entire “status quo” is going to flop hard and will convince MarLEL to never publish a mutant character ever again.
*cough*where is whirlwind?and no, wasp is not an acceptable answer
>>112526371Leah Williams has huge tits. And that's okay
>>112526371Are we getting old Daken back or is he still the family-friendly version?
>>112529187They don't count on fat girls anon.
>>112527906Literally has nowhere else to go, Jubilee killed the only biological family member he had left.
>>112529290She has big tits. Under normal circumstances, we would already have nude photos of them, but we are on /co/, therefore the only sensible thing I can do is point out that she has big tasty tits.
>>112529291BASED JUBILEE. ching chang chong bitch
>>112529356Literally thought the same thing
>>112529328If only she posted noodz. God damn my dick would be daimonds.
>>112528947I don't hate Fallen Angels.Kwannon is heretofore a dumb character. That's not a name that a modern Japanese person would have, it's an archaic romanisation of the localised Japanese name for Guanyin, the female bodisattva of mercy and dumb Nicieza probably only knew about it because of it's use by the Canon camera company. Technically it should be Kannon.It's also retarded that they're still trying to call her Psylocke, which is also not a name that Japanese person would have and also that name was given to Betsy way before the body swap. That's Betsy's name.The art is atrocious, absolutely the worst ever, and Hill's characterization of X-23 is awful.But, I actually like the attempt to flesh out Kannon's backstory, there's no reason mutant ninja can't exist and excel as a concept. The villain is neat, the plot is engaging and the general story thematics work well. I considered dropping it after #3 but I just read #4 and it made me want to read #5.
>>112529809fuck you retard
>>112529865I don't think you even read the whole post
>>112526371is the new x-men books still doing the depressing "we now extremists holding the world ransom from out island and are now super smug that science says we're going to replace you in 100 years" of something?
>>112529955They're not holding the world ransom, they have resources and are selling them in exchange for countries recognizing them as a people and not genociding them again.
>>112526665You know you love me and my boobs, anon.
>>112530078but they're very clearly enjoying studies claiming they'll naturally replace humans hence why orchis was formed.
>>112530169they're a wonderland
>>112526903If people actually bothered to read past the HoX/PoX, they'd see that in the 1st issue of the other books like Excalibur and X-men talk about Krakoa allowing mutants to have a non-mutant companion in.
>>112530078>They're not holding the world ransomEhhh, when fucking magneto comes out and says "we could make the drugs cheaper and last longer but fuck you" then the mutants are now on the same moral level as the pharmaceutical companie, If they're not "holding the world for ransom" they're certainly extorting people with medicine and that's not much better.
>>112529809>Psylocke, which is also not a name that Japanese person would have That's Lee's fault nobody else.
>>112526921see>>112530295others that got invited were Brian(Betsy's twin bro) and Corsair(Summer's dad).
>>112530328so basically the rebooted xmen comics are about how power corrupts even champions of justice. They would have never taken on this mindset if they hadn't lucked out.
>>112527335>Prodigy in the “Oh no...” categoryyou probably think you have taste don’t you
>>112529955I guess you could say that for the main X-men book? The others focus on different thing, Excalibur is on about magic, X-force is their hit squad to take down assassins, New Mutants are going out in space, Marauders is liberating mutants that are being held captive, and Fallen Angels is for some mutants who still want to help humans.
>>112526665Outside of the art, Squirrel Girl was a fun book.
Wait isn't Rachel from the future or some shit? Why the hell didn't she go back?
>>112526921Why the fuck Xavier doesn't care about Cain?
>>112530478That's an odd question to ask considering the fact that she's been in the present day since the 1980s.
>>112530505I mean her backstory wasn't she a kid from a possible future like Cable, but they both just refused to go back to their time.
>>112530478>>112530539Everyone Rachel cared about in her original timeline is dead and she can't change the past of her original universe. She had no reason to stay.
>>112530539By the time Rachel showed up her specific future wasn't possible anymore. Even Nimrod notices that he traveled crosstime when he wound up in 616.
>>112530461That's not Leah
>>112530367>so basically the rebooted xmen comics are about how power corrupts even champions of justiceIf you believe the X-Men are an allegory for oppression then we've entered meta commentary territory about the oppressed becoming just as bad as their oppressors when given the opportunity.>They would have never taken on this mindset if they hadn't lucked out>lucked outWhen winning the lottery puts a target on your back then can you call it good luck or bad? People are just people and giving a person lazerbeam eyes or psychic powers doesn't make them any "better" (looking at you -'A'- you big blue ballsack) and people are only going to react to fortune or misfortune in so many ways. They got a little bit of an advantage (some of them) and before they had the opportunity to decide what to do with it they were assaulted by assholes (on both sides) telling them "this is the way it has to be." What did anybody think was going to happen?
>>112528158I know what you meant but now I’m thinking that eye boy is some how Scott’s protegeSo this means that generation x is all that’s left to come back as a book? You think this is going to get its legacy numbering? Because both new mutants and Excalabur don’t for some reason
>>112531237They already tried that last year and I can't say i know anyone that liked it but the writer.
>>112531237The first issue of X-men had LGY, but not the next one. Apparently, Hickman is really against Legacy numbering and was mad that the first issue had it, and that's why none of the books that came out after have it anymore.
>>112531237Generation X isn't coming back any time soon, especially with Jubilee and Chamber chilling in other books. At least, I hope they're not gonna try bringing back Gen X without them.
>>112531373You’d think a guy like Hickman would be into that sort of thing, but I suppose this means that we’ll only see it for anniversary issues and such
>>112526665Gwenpool and Mary Jane have both been really good honestly
>>112526921since the beginning of DoX we've seen humans allowed on Krakoa
>>112528009it's almost guaranteed, and Leah is going to be addressing transgenderism from cloning and suicide. Lots of cloning questions will be addressed in this book
>>112529011pretty soon, Black Tom is waking up with erections to Cain, so I'm sure he's going to need some dicking.
> northstar> prodigy> daken> leah williamschrist, she's just going to write gay orgies isn't shewhat a monkey's paw
>>112531489People took this cover literally.
>>112529955I see you never read the most recent X-men issue.>>112530328They are just establishing themselves in human society so that they can effect change.
>>112531573>They are just establishing themselves in human society so that they can effect change>establishing themselves>effect changeWhoa buddy, /his/fag here, you've just said a couple of the magic passwords that will take you directly to humanities thunderdome (two people's enter, one people leave.) Good luck in the pit, you'll need it.
>>112530412Lee was the one who drew her as an Asian.
>>112531563I want to see Daken wreck northstars marriage. Because boy was that a shit move.
>>112531722if he guts prodigy it'd be the most based x-moment in yearsfuck gillen for young avengers, ruined literally every fucking character in that book
>>112526371So... it's going to be shit.
>>112531690>Lee was the one who drew her as an Asian.Jim Lee didn't just decide to do that, Claremont was the writer. Lee had just arrived on the book, those were the comics that made him a star. Claremont is said to have wanted Psylocke becoming Asian to be a temporary change, but it finally made her popular, so it stuck.
>>112530936>If you believe the X-Men are an allegory for oppression then we've entered meta commentary territory about the oppressed becoming just as bad as their oppressors when given the opportunity.The X-Men have been living in that territory for more than 10 years, with probably another 10 of slowly moving towards it.
>>112530328>they're certainly extorting people with medicine and that's not much better.They same people that have been trying to kill them for decades despite how many times they've saved the world.
>>112526371Have they fixed Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch yet so we can have more interaction between this dysfunctional and underutilized trio of siblings?
>>112532057>despite how many times they've saved the world.Most of the times the X-Men saved the world happened in ways where nobody else knows what they did, or the threat was an internal mutant conflict that just makes all of them look bad to the public. The X-Men are terrible at public relations.
>>112532137Unless you can travel back to 2004 and stop Marvel from using Wanda as a plot device for breaking up the Avengers and decimating the mutants, the retcons free her from a lot of negative baggage. Quicksilver was hurt more by the changes, but his real problem right now is that his 2018 mini sold so badly, which may affect his chances of getting an important role anywhere. If you like either of the twins you should probably be happy they're not joining the cultists on Krakoa though.
>>112532057>The same people that have been trying to kill them for decadesTwo wrongs don't make a right. Human pragmatism always turns into a race to the moral bottom with everybody competing to see who can be worst and either somebody decides to take a chance on a grand gesture or somebody ends up genocided.
>>112531237>>112531405Everyone from Generation X is showing up in other books. Synch will be in the main book in a couple weeks.
>>112532137fuck I loved PAD's last x-factor with Lorna and Pietro. Also, that Issue with Lorna and Wanda (as a guest in the book) in a medieval fair was fun as wellI like Lorna and Leah is a decent writer (considering the bar is the lowest and we could get something much more worse). but it's how she works with Rachal that is going to make this team roll into good or into a pile of shit. eye boy is too memey
>>112531918>>112531690>>112530336The body swap was Claremont. Lee kept it going because of Asian representation. And honestly I never had much of a problem with the body swap. But since Betsy isn't in that body anymore, the name Psylocke doesn't apply anymore. If they're gonna insist on calling Rachel 'Prestige' then why not call Kannon 'Revanche' or whatever?
PRESTIGE IS A NICE NAME FOR A SUPER HERO AND RACHEL IS A GOOD GIRL!
>>112533025>But since Betsy isn't in that body anymore, the name Psylocke doesn't apply anymore.Wasn't she calling herself Psylocke for several years before the body swap?
>>112533105Prestige is a terrible name but Rachel is great
>>112531446Mary Jane, yes. But Gwenpool's book was horrible until the last couple of issues.
>>112527396He never lost any of the knowledge he gained from using his powers, even after he was depowered. So either way he’s still useful to the team.
>>112533616So then why is anon being such a faggot about her name?
>>112534392They're writing Kwannon as going by Psylocke, a name that was never actually hers. It doesn't make sense. Betsy is now Captain Britain and stars in Excalibur.
>>112534433We all know it's just so normies picking up the book and don't know/care about Kwannon aren't confused
>>112534481Yeah well, I don't like it.Besides, no normie will look at the terrible art in Fallen Angels and choose to read it. Only the masochism of a true fan could attempt to muscle through such a shit heap of a book.
>>112530539Cable isn't from an alternate timeline
>>112526371What an awful team line up
Leah Williams must stop sleeping with her editors for more books
>>112526371Are they just pulling names out of hats to decide these teams now?
>>112533025Lee just liked drawing ninjas
>>112537903Well when you consider almost all the mutants are back, its not that bad of an idea.
>The team was gonna have Maggot but JDW rejected himmy heartShe'll probably write Daken interestingly anyway
>>112526903>i wish they'd stop trying to make eye boy happenI could get it if the only reason Eye-boy keeps showing up in background shots is because he's visually interesting due to being so weird looking. I mean, that's how Glob Herman stuck around. But they keep shoving him in the main roster.
>>112526371Wonder if Xavier downloaded Prodigy into a body with his powers active, or if Prodigy has been left powerless.
>>112528348Since homosexuality in real life is such a hit or miss shit show I like reading about it actually playing out in idealized fashion in comic books. I can only expect to be called gay even though if you knew what I beat it to you'd call me a pedo or ephebe. But gay in comics seems way different to me than gay irl, ex:Midnighter and Apollo as written by Ellis. But I don't have a second example. You were any of you alive when North star came out as HIV+ and gay back in the 90s?
>>112533025>then why not call Kannon 'Revanche' or whatever?Because Marvel wants to have their Takoyaki and eat it too. They undid the swap to pander to people who complain about appropriation or whatever but know the character was popular so they're trying to force Kwannon as Psylocke down our throats as if it were the same thing. They want to say "look Psylocke is still around" even though she's not the actual character people have been reading about for decades and seriously nobody fucking liked Kwannon and this shit isn't doing them any favors
>>112528164If you miss all white teams that much, read the original x factor
>>112539397>Don't like it don't buy it>Waaaaaaaaah why are our sales in the gutter!?
>>112539397Unfortunately Wilce Portacio didn't come on board for the original writer or else everybody here would be gushing. Wilde Portacio X-Factor Original 5 has literally not been topped since Uncanny X-men showed Scott Summer's get as high as Hal Jordan in a Grand Morrison Swamp Thing reboot trying to pull off Alan Moore.
>>112539399Sales numbers shouldn't matter to you because you won't read the book anyway
>>112539479And when the book is cancelled in 6 months they shouldn't matter to you either because you weren't either.
>>112538207>JDW rejected himwhat a prick
>>112526371>his situation of being an adult human on KrakoaReally. Why would anyone want this? It doesn't feel safe at all. Just imagine you a normal guy living in the hood with niggers that have guns and deal drugs. Would you really want to live there even if your wife got the house there for free?
>>112539479>you shouldn't care about sales if you don't buy the bookThat's exactly why people care about sales to know when shit they hate gets cancelled.
>>112539415>get as high as Hal Jordan in a Grand Morrison Swamp Thing reboot trying to pull off Alan Moore.He got high on GL. I don't think Morrison wrote swamp thing.
>>112539626They don't just carry guns. They have guns hotglued to their hands and love to point them at you, for not having one.
>>112528790DNA mutant samples were also deactivated during M-Day.
>>112538375she's specifically using him for his powerset. Which, for an investigation team, is appropriate.
All I want is Gwenpool cameos
>>112538207Where’d you learn that? Goddamnit !
>>112540823Y'know, even though it's Leah writing I'm not confident she'll appear.
>>112541352Unlikely. Remember that at the endo of GSB, she said "This is the last time, you'll see me like this" which suggest that Leah won't write her anymore. She has no reason to. No one really likes to write Gwenpool. She's only stepping stone for new writers, to get to better brand.
>>112541383You really think that? Seems to me like writing her has been a fun experience, at least for her starring roles.
>>112541433I have great admiration for Hastings, that he managed to made a literal joke into a very compelling character with great supporting cast and rich history. Leah managed to pull it off in her last two issues, but everything before that, suggest she doesn't feel comfortable writing that character and isn't sure how she should act.Gwen was literally forced on Kelly and her WCA and everyone else who wrote her, had no idea how she should act (probably didn't bother to read her original run). As far as I see it, Gwen ended up as the character that they can take liberties with, so she can be used to test the new writer + quick cash in on nostalgia of her fans.Gwen ended up on Krakoa. Great. Just like hundreds of mutants that no one remembers about.That being said. In response to >>112540823I can at least dream... How it would be funny If during X-Factor, gwen never appeared on panels... But you could see her peeking and waving, between them. Observing the story like some eldritch monster, creeping just beneath a thin veil of reality.
>>112542025>Gwen ended up on Krakoa. Great. Just like hundreds of mutants that no one remembers about.Wait, so Gwen is a mutant now?
>>112542462Retconned herself in the end of gsb. It was trippy
>>112542462Kamala accidently broke her and triggered a retcon. It was not pleasant (But Kamala didn't noticed). However, 616 now considers Gwen a mutant (despite Gwen still saying otherwise) and now she used that loophole to find her niche. For now.Doesn't mean, she will get any more relevant.
>Northstar the leader instead of Polaris.BS. Lorna has led previous incarnations of X-Factor.
>>112538207Jordan White is a shit editor, not surprosed.
>>112526371How much gay sex are Daken and Northstar gonna have?
>>112527876This cover looks nothing like Tumblr art.
>>112531722I want to see Daken wreck Northstar.
>>112526371>meh writer>weird cast>probably not in any real succession to PAD X-Factor
>>112531563Is Eye Boy gonna get Jean Gayed by her daughter?
>>112526371>Academy X character gets to do shit>it's ProdigyOf goddamn course
>>112526371Why is Rachel in every fucking team
>>112544976If they're not lying about The Five playing a big role then Elixir will be there too.
>>112545067Is she? The only places she's appeared so far have been a couple X-Men issues, and that cameo in Excalibur as a fire hound avatar.
>>112544976No one gives a shit about Hellion anon
>>112545976Weird that Hellion isn't *in* Hellions, though.>Wild Child, Nanny, Orphan Maker, Empath, Scalphunter, Psylocke, Sinister and Havok
>>112526371This will be hot shit.
>>112545144I hope Leah remembers that they're yknow, long-time friends and teammates with a long and complex relationship. I wish people would just remember Academy X