https://twitter.com/DanaTerrace/status/1149058558048161792?s=19So basically the entire first season of The Owl House was scrapped, wasn't it. It was supposed to come out around the same time as Amphibia, right? Were the rumors true?
>The virgin Wacom vs. The chad HuionThe man who made that tweet is based
>>108638614The rumors came after the delay, but what the fuck is going on behind the scenes?
About Sabrina getting in trouble for pushing for canon /ll/? I legitimately believe so: the fact that she bragged about being the one responsible for Star Butterfly being turned on by the thought of a muscular adult woman beating her up makes it clear that she's into that sort of thing.
>Show is suppose to be done and to be released in 2020>Needing animator out of nowhereThat ain't good
Now I'm REALLY believing the rumors that the show was trying to push /ll/ and Disney stopped itChrist
>>108638614>>108638663>>108638687>>108638698the ducktales reboot often has in-house and/or freelance animator animate some of the scenes (the pilot had a shit ton of people do so, including Dana herself), so it's probably that
oh boy that ain't good, might mean that show is getting delayed
So the /ll/ shit was true..sigh..
>>108638698They're asking for western animators on a production that's supposed to farm this out to Korea. Or, all the boarders got fired. That's a QA thing isn't it?
>>108638745>>108638723like here's this from the ducktales pilot
>>108638723So they're animating in-house?
I was messing around with CSP animation when i saw this in my tlFinallyMy time has come
>>108638723>>108638761and here I grabbed from a random episode, showing it wasn't just a special pilot thingDana herself confirmed she personally animated one of the shots seen in the trailer
>>108638643Which one can take a punch better? Asking for a friend.
>>108638777>>108638614This literally means nothing. In-house animators are used all the time for various random stuff. They could be animating the intro or something. Studio Yotta animated Amphibia's intro, so basically just a bunch of freelancers.
>>108638614It wasn't a rumor when several people who were boarding it were let go around September of last year and they hired new boarders.
>>108638614Isn't this show supposed to come out in Winter or Spring of 2020? Isn't it bad that she's suddenly asking for new animators out of the blue? I guess I don't know how cartoons are made these days.
>>108638777a bulk of the animation is outsourced (in ducktales case, to the Fillipino studios Toon City and Snipple), but yeah, there's some in-house/freelance animation in each episodetook another screenshot of the credits, this time for the latest episode
Reminder that Sabrina is not head director (that would be Tyler Chen), and she is not a writer, and this show appears to be script driven
>>108638614>She-ra was announced almost a year after either>already about to wrap up it's second seasonGuess we know who the true winner is am I right bros? Because that's how it works right?
>The legacy of star vs is having the most autistic fanbase who refuse to admit their show was bad.
>>108638826So, in a sense, everything is fine?
If the way the different studios on Amphibia look is any indication, the stiff animation we saw for most of the Trailer was Rough Draft's stuff, and that SMIP episodes will look nicer and livelier (who knows about Sugarcube)
someone tell a newfag what /II/ is pls
>>108638967Lesbian Loli (as opposed to /ss/, straight shota), someone last year tried to spin a rumor about behind the scenes drama because the show's managed to hit an intersection of Gravity Falls fans being Weird about Dana and Star Vs fans being Weird about Sabrina
>>108638905I think most Star fans freely admit that the show took a nasty turn during season 3. The fans that remained, that stuck around and liked being shat on, are a vocal minority that other fanbases play up.
>>108638614I find it weird that so many animation studios hire through twitter. What’s the point of having applications on their websites at all?
>>108639206For specific projects it's faster and maybe cheaper.
>>108639206Formalities? Convenient way to attain the necessary information?
>>108638614>varying skill levels>all desperate for employmentI'm glad these kids had the time and money to pursue their passion.Still, I can't help but think there's something rotten in the state of Owl House.
Why does she need to Tweet for an animator? Can't she just get Disney to bring in someone who fits her requirements?
>>108639359I think she had an entire team and she managed to get the entire team fired
>>108638614>>108638777>>108638807Usually in cases like this, they're looking for people to animate reference for the outsource studio; things like walk cycles, effects or characters in special poses.
>>108639387how is that even possible?
>>108639359You'd think they'd hold like, a more professional job search than a fucking tweet
>>108639226Why did her torso and booby get so big in that last shot
>>108639517THAT... is a good question woah wtf
>>108639517For a 13 year old, Anne is fucking stacked
>>108639517Overseas animators probably didn't bother keeping her on model and just directly translated the storyboards.Poor volume control. It's so jarring, someone should have caught it.
>>108639504Not the first time people hire through online. Considering how big her follower count is makes sense to ask quickly on a major platform for talent that has been hiding or hasn't been discovered yet.
>>108638614She seems to be asking for one person though. I'd understand if it was a whole new crew but one new animator seems like a simple request.
>>108638614>So basically the entire first season of The Owl House was scrapped, wasn't it. It was supposed to come out around the same time as Amphibia, right? Were the rumors true?
>>108639583Isn't this basically one of the most sure fire ways to break in, anyway?
>>108639778I hope so, I'm sick of retail.
>>108639778I believe so, plenty of people have been scouted online because of the work they put up. You got to get their attention somehow. Hell, I believe Dana herself was found because of the work she put up.
>>108639840Don't know your work, but I'm pulling for you, anon.
>>108639581but amphibia animators DO partially conform to the modelshttps://twitter.com/Cheyenne_Curtis/status/1149106693327867904https://twitter.com/OldLadyBoats/status/1143969776579907584
>>108638614this disgusting lesbian can go take a hike
>>108639966ill pull for them too
>>108638614Can’t confirm this as I don’t work at Disney but another upcoming /co/ show is being delayed for this exact reason. A lot of studios are really unhappy with animation they’ve been getting back from overseas lately...
>>108639581This is definitely the reason. If you watch the show her boobs are constantly changing size from basically flat, to disproportionately large, to weirdly pointy sometimes. It's pretty annoying and distracting.
>>108638676>the fact that she bragged about being the one responsible for Star Butterfly being turned on by the thought of a muscular adult woman beating her up makes it clear that she's into that sort of thing.explain
>>108640648The zoomer Korean worker ants need to fucking shape up. Their papa would have gotten shit done before dying in his sleep from exhaustion with little pay.
Do you goes not realize how long it takes for a show to air? She's wanted cause maybe they finished production on the first season
>>108640814>Do you goes not realize how long it takes for a show to air? Production can finish in a year nowadays.
I see Zeddy tries to get that job. I hope she gets it, her work is great.
>>108638614Setting aside all the rumors and internet celeb drama, for a Disney production to openly seek help online is surprising. It's a company that takes secrecy seriously, keeps close oversight over productions, and have massive manpower at their disposal. This is an exceptional situation.
>>108642205It's because this is 2D animation. It's a a dying industry and it's really hard to find talented people who can do it.
>>108639581>Overseas animators probably didn't bother keeping her on model and just directly translated the storyboards.If this is the case then I don't blame the overseas animators. It's the storyboarders' fault for not making their own work as polished as possible when they know it's practically being used as layout/keys.
>>108638614Unless the show is going to be air in one giant bomb like with Billy Dilley or what Amphibia is doing, it's not unusual for a show to still be in production by the time the first season is airing. So even if the show premieres 2020, they could stiil be working on the last half of the season while the show takes it's time over the coming months to air. And then it'll go on break, allowing the crew to finish production, then resume an air schedule. That's traditionally what happens with a show whose first season can take a whole year to air. I don't know if Owl House is going to be air-bombed or weekly air.
>>108639387>I think she had an entire team and she managed to get the entire team firedhow do you know this
>>108642259It’s not really efficient to do that, though. At the rate boarders have to draw and get redo drafts, it’s only logical that they’d prioritize being recognizable over being on-model.
>>108643710It's very efficient to do that because the production gets to skip an entire step which means saving on money. It's just not good practice to do that. The reason they ditched layout artists which we used to have in the 90's was because of money costs.
>>108643710>it’s only logical that they’d prioritize being recognizable over being on-modelBut it's work that needs to be done in order to ensure a good product. Not doing it well simply means passing that work down to someone else, which in this case is likely someone who isn't paid enough to care, or isn't given enough creative authority to make decisions. We can't expect overseas animators to read our minds, especially at these korean studios who are doing a dozen different projects concurrently.Either do more polished work here, or authorize someone overseas to make changes and pay them for doing this extra work, or hire better storyboarders. It has to be one of those options, or simply not caring about the quality of the final product.
>>108640696>This is definitely the reason. If you watch the show her boobs are constantly changing size from basically flat, to disproportionately large, to weirdly pointy sometimes.I need more examples
>>108644032>It has to be one of those options, or simply not caring about the quality of the final product.Guess which option a business would clearly chose and has evidently chosen.
>>108639206Cheap and easy way to contact folks
>>108639040This is me, but I would not call myself a star vs fan.
>>108639206So people will stop contacting them asking for work and instead just funnel portfolios into a trash bin.
>>108638820>I guess I don't know how cartoons are made these days The Thread.
>>108638676>she bragged about being the one responsible for Star Butterfly being turned on by the thought of a muscular adult woman beating her up makes it clear that she's into that sort of thingDoesn't this bother anyone else??Why are storyboarders given so much power over the show's writing to the point they can drastically change a character's personality for a few episodes and then fuck off and go work on something else after the damage is done? Good job dickhead, you ruined the show's consistency just so you can inject your gross fetish or political agenda.Something similar happened to SU and it fucking pisses me off.
>>108644845>lauren_zuke_lapidot_comic.jpganyone have it?
>>108638793Fuck Huion. Go Wacom or XP-Pen (if you want a cheaper screentablet)
>>108645035Was it this one?
>>108639226JESUS CHRIST I'm surprised no one has pointed this out on twitter yet.
>>108645119I'm impressed that Stuart is too embarrassed to put his Zuke comics on his webcomic archive.
>mainly hazbin hotel animators posting their reels
>>108645759That's pretty funny vizziepop's staff are ready to jump ship off her project at any given moment like that.
>>108645131Because any time anybody does it, they get called a hater or a gamergator or some shit. You're rocking their boat and twitter hives don't like that.
>>108639517It's like she just aged 7 years instantly.
>>108640698don't have any images, but she posted screenshots of the scene on her tumblr blog saying all proud and cheeky "I put that in because that's me! That's totally me!"
>>108646114Does anyone have pics???
>>108645119Is there a place where I can find more of these? I remember one where she raped Rebecca with a "C'mon, didn't you see what she was wearing?"
>>108638614>Location in the LA is preferable but not requiredCalling Bullshit on that, when do they ever hire people out of Cali
>>108646600I got this from the archives. Haven't a clue where the rest could be.
>>108645759you weren't kidding, there's a lot of em in there. I don't follow hazbin hotel at all, are people not getting paid fairly or something?
>>108638614these dana threads are just an excuse to indirectly ask for more dana porn and I would like to see more too
>>108643751I love this type of edit. Implicitly extremely lewd and yet SFW.
>>108639387Utter moron. A single animator can’t do the job of 40 board artists, character layout artists, prop designers, BG painters, sheet toners, etc. Plus The fastest way to find great undiscovered talent nowadays is to find it directly online. Only /co/ could turn a normal “we’re hiring!” tweet into “Did Dana use chemtrails to gas her entire team? Did her team run off the edge of the flat earth?”
>>108648068>They hit some chem trails as they were falling of the edge, mam, they were long dead before the impact.
>>108644464Very clear. I just don't like it when the most poorly paid individuals in this entire process are blamed for decisions made at the top. People tend to focus on outsourcing or the Cal Arts meme, instead of the broken production workflow that define this generation of cartoons.
>>108639387Dana must think she is John K or something where only she has the right vision and nobody can work with her because they are all unsatisfactory to her. Meanwhile, the people under her know full well she is a JAG talent-wise who only got fastlaned to her position because she was willing to peg The Manlet a few times.
>>108640648It's HGS, is it?
>Animator wanted./co/ will write a resume letter one word at a time:Dear
>>108638643as much as i hate wacom as a company, huion is a fucking piece of shit
>>108638723Whats in house?
>>108638614Can someone fill me in on the rumors and what the fuck /ll/ is and how it connects to Owl House?
>>108650740/ll/ is Loli Lesbian.
>>108650701In house means that the studio who draws the outlines and storyboards is also the same one that animated the show. Not outsourced.
>>108638614They pushed it back to give Amphibia time to catch on. Owl House was massively trending on social media while Amphibia was barely getting any upvotes, so they decided to push Owl House back to reduce the risk of Amphibia getting eclipsed by it.
>>108650890They are basically the same show
>>108650740Lesbian Loli, opposite of Straight Shota. Eda x Luz shipping/porn.
>>108650740When it was announced that The Owl House was going to be delayed, a bunch of rumors started to pop up trying to explain why. >Alex Hirsch had to come in and rewrite half the scripts>Dana and Cotugno wrote the show to end with Eda and Luz being an item and Disney told them to no>Dana fired her entire crew and hired new people>Dana sent 80 job tests to the Animation Guild >Etc. The /ll/ was a prominent rumor because people have a hate boner for Sabrina. Storyboarding the Episode where Marco and Jackie break up, (indirectly) admitting to having lewd thoughts about underaged characters, etc. And people concluded that because she's involved, /ll/ is guaranteed (despite the fact in her current position, she doesn't have a lot of say in the direction of the show)
>>108650960>(indirectly) admitting to having lewd thoughts about underaged characters Please tell me more
>>108650890What's even to hype about Owl House? We barely know anything about it.
>>108651104I probably should have researched first. Not lewd, but attracted to underaged characters.
>>108650960>When it was announced that The Owl House was going to be delayedMy recollection was that the rumors of the delay came first, which Dana personally refuted on twitter, twice: first time was when it slipped late 2018/early 2019, then again when it slipped late 2019.>despite the fact in her current position, she doesn't have a lot of say in the direction of the showThis is the part of the rumor I don't place much faith in, simply because it may never be confirmed. But people interpreted Sabrina's sudden dip in enthusiasm for the show, as well as the removal of Owl House from many of the initial staff's Twitter description, as lending credence to the rumored drama.It's not an unreasonable read of the situation, although drama is a normal part of any group effort, and /co/ likes to sensationalize. But this open call for animators so late in the production cycle, plus the delays, points to a production with management problems at the very least.
>>108648068>>108648068I was just trying to draw attention back to her show, my bad
>>108651269I just hope the show ends up being good.
>>108651632It is not going to be as long as it is on Disney.
Give me drama
>>108651632Yeah, I have nothing against the show. If it turns out to be good, hopefully people will forget the drama around it, real or pretend. But the trailer that came out a month or two ago was somewhat underwhelming, and gave off the impression that it was still early in the production process. I can't help but think that the tepid reception it got is partly behind this call for animators. Either they're behind, or realized they needed to up their game.
>>108652503It was only a teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPdz1F7U4eEBut still
>>108651185Didn't that character always identify as a girl and only dressed as a boy for "anime reasons"
>>108638614I applied. Why not.
>>108640786No, this is good. Maybe they will be forced to actually invest in quality animation, maybe even some local studios. This cheapo Korean stuff has been a norm for far too long. I want an arms race that will give us good animation again.
>>108650431Oh, the tales I wish I could tell.
>>108652538God, it just feels so much like Gravity Falls. If you told me this was the teaser to Alex's next show, I'd believe you. Why is homogenization in the animation industry on the rise? When Alex went on to make Gravity Falls, it wasn't just a clone of Fish Hooks. When Pen Ward went to pitch Adventure Time, it wasn't exactly identical to Misadventures of Flapjack.Yet, all the alumni of shows like Gravity Falls or Regular Show are just making clones of the show they previously worked on. Why?
>>108652670If somehow you get hired, try to see if you could hide an little shout out to us.
>>108652863>an little shout out
>>108651104Sabrina bitched at some rule34 artist for making a porn comic about Marco and Star, but then later on boarded an episode where she gave Star a crush on a clearly adult woman because "Star is me."
>>108652908>an episode where she gave Star a crush on a clearly adult womanWhat episode is this? And how did it get past him?
>>108639517Because anne is a titty monster.
>>108652547Yup.She only pretended to be a boy because she needed to stay in a boys only" club in order to pay them back for a vase she broke.
>>108652538God, this is so irritating. From the first few images I saw, I thought it would have some depth! But no, it just looks like fucking Gravity Falls. >>108652848 is right, what is with all this goddamn homogeneity? I hope it it gets better. I hope so so much.
>>108642245well, it's not like they take the time to properly form them anymore either. Gone are the days when you could learn at the feet of masters.
>>108652988Neverzone was a fucking mistake. Having adventures off-screen and major characters change design and personality after crossing a portal is so fucking bad for a story.
>>108639517Puberty apparently hits like a fucking train in Amphibia.
>>108638614who is this Dynamite Headdy looking mother fucker?
>>108653674Dana Terrace. Human meme and /ll/ enthusiast.
>>108638614Is Disney really so lacking in 2D animators, Dana can't just ask someone around for a list of demo reels already sent in and go through them? Do these studios even save people's portfolios for future reference? I thought it was common practice for them to do that.
>>108638614DANA WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO NOW?
>>108653275They wish oversea animators would give them milkers
>>108649758Everything about this is wrong. Dana is far more talented than manlet Hirsch, she can actually draw. There's no evidence she fired anybody, /co/ just has a weird hard on for her, probably due to /pol/ shit and every single one of these "rumors" started right here because people were bored waiting for content
>>108651269Absolutely none of the "rumors" have been confirmed, its all just fanfiction by us because we're horny and bored
Why did like half of the people posting demo reels work on hazbin?
>>108658197Do we even have a release date on that? Honestly have the feeling they want out and are looking for a solid job after how long we've been waiting for that episode.
God, I can't fucking keep track of who's who in all this drama when people hide behind anime or cartoon avatars and I don't have faces to recognize. Can someone give me a quick rundown?
>>108657998A pitch bible was leaked on /co/ a few weeks ago and confirmed a lot of what people were guessing, moron.
>>108645987>>108646832The patreon doesn't make much and vizie takes a large cut, so the animators are more or less working for free.
>>108658453>animating someone else's shit for free.I would never do such a thing.
>>108658531gotta get that work experience bro gotta pad out that resume so it looks extra thick extra tight just gotta get my foot in the door my dude
>it's a /co/ has no idea how animation production works episodeI thought only /a/ had those episodes. I guess I was wrong.
>>108646643There are a few freelancers at DTVA who work remotely
>>108658627Easier to stir up drama when the general public don't understand anything. Especially during modern internet when its encouraged to put your work online.
>>108658683High Guardian Spice. Some pseudo anime series that's in production by some shitty anime page.
>>108658683The savior of Western animation. They're finally making a show filled with waifus, but weebs are mad about it because they can't feel superior anymore.
>>108653275>Sprig's faceI wonder there still no frog face meme with sprig's editions.
>>108655489She sniffed the last batch already.
>>108653275>Mabel barely hit puberty, but the rest of you have no excuse
>>108658752>anime pagecruncyroll is objektively awful
>>108652848Because the bigwigs at Disney obviously want a GF successor, and the show directors need to comply their request to get their shows approved
>>108654318That thread was incredible
D-D-DANA-SAMA, PLEASE! HAVE MERCY!!! YOU'VE GONE TO FAR THIS TI-
>>108661478Is this real?
>>108639226>her torso just growsQUALITY ANIMATION
>>108658672>Easier to stir up drama when the general public don't understand anythingThat explains /vp/'s current state
>>108658627>>108658672The show is already in POST PRODUCTION and season 2 hasn't been announced yet. This isn't normal, you dumb faggots
The sad part about the /ll/ rumor is that if the showrunners actually got a whiff of it they might try to stick Luz and Eda with boys to further quash those rumors.
>>108663019This is what the leaker uploaded.
>>108663327Good, yuri is for faggots.
>>108663387>says the pedophile tripfag
>>108661478>no magical powersReminds me of that 4chan D&D greentext: Brian the “wizard”.
>>108651185>underage>high school girlYeah, whatevs.
>>108657697>git gud>for an unreliable as fuck hardware that constantly stops workingretard
>>108663327>hetero>current yearMore like The Mouse will force the showrunners to stick Luz and Eda with boys if anything.
>>108638614/ll/ Here I come!
>>108658683Hoes Get Split, a magical girl anime where they're constantly getting dicked down
>>108663726>current year Disney>pushing hetero>implying
Frog show is superior animal showOwl show sucks
>>108658248No it wasn’t, there was just that single page about Luz, which didn’t confirm a single one of /cos/ conspiracies about Sabrina Cotugno or Dana eating babies or whatever. It also looks hugely out of date with an old design. It has nothing to do with /cos/ invented fanfics about office drama
>>108658219>Do we even have a release date on that?No. But there'll be endless scene teasers posted for the next 15 years by which time the theme song will be a remix of Old Town Road.
>>108664221>conspiracies about Sabrina Cotugno or Dana eating babiesIt's usually Sabrina who's eating the babies. Something about a homeopathic remedy for moles.
>>108663275It’s incredibly normal you absolute casual. You don’t know shit about the TV industry do you? MOST TV SHOWS ON MOST CHANNELS FOR MOST OF HISTORY don’t greenlight S2 until after S1 airs. Gravity Falls didn’t announce Greenlight until most of S1 was already out. Do you have a brain hemorrhage or do you just get off pretending to know stuff about an industry you haven’t worked a single day in
>>108663387Aren't you posting in a cartoon thread on /u/?
>>108664277>MOST TV SHOWS ON MOST CHANNELS FOR MOST OF HISTORY don’t greenlight S2 until after S1 airsThis has never been true for animation due to the prolonged production schedule and continuous production being preferred in order to avoid layoffs. They sometimes wait to announce a greenlight but it doesn't mean they weren't already working on it, Big City Greens and Amphibia both had S2 announced before they aired a single episode. That being said I wouldn't expect an announcement for TOH's S2 until the month before it airs (like those shows) but a second season is almost 100% guaranteed on modern Disney unless the execs can already tell during production that it's a flop, like Billy Dilley.
>>108663079Oh that situation, to be fair for them they have actual evidence of fuck ups and lies being spread by GF. This one so far there's nothing drama worthy to talk about till the show actually has some episodes out and crew opinions.
>>108664356Yeah I agree here, plenty of times there are shows that have another season greenlit. Even Nick did it with current TMNT because they know it'll get a decent chunk of fans that buy merch for the show. Just doesn't feel worth getting alarmed over someone requesting for one new animator.
>>108664167>Frog show is superior animal show>First episode starts in media res, doesn't waste time on origin flashback>second episode only touches on origin briefly and advances characterization>good animation, writing music and voicework>appealing to kids without adult jokesI'm actually looking forward to being angered by the second season getting a shitty B tier Korean studio, the third season's shipping infesting the story, OOC everywhere, a poochie character who's stolen the spotlight and at least one VA being fired for a random tweet. Thank you Nefcy, you taught me how to really watch a show.
>>108663387I thought yurifags were mostly female though.
>>108664277The majority of shows have their seasons greenlit before S1 airs and this has become standard practice because networks ANTICIPATE that if a show is going to take off, they want most of the crew to already still be on-staff instead of waiting 5 - 8 months where they have moved on. Two seasons is almost guaranteed for a series creator unless you are making a mini-series or unless the network has so little faith in your production (Such as the case with Billy Dilley).Just because networks do not ANNOUNCE that a S2 is coming out before S1 airs does NOT mean the deal is not already happening.
>>108643751Call me gay but i hate shadow cock edits for some fucking reason since half the time it has some unfortunate implications.
>>108639226This is literally my fetish.
>>108650543I've had nothing but good experiences.
Luz is just pure sex appeal, frog girl can't compete. It's almost a miracle such a fappable character is allowed in year 2019.
>>108665548In terms of character design, I agree that Luz is sexier which is why she got a lot more porn and attention than Anne did when they were first announced. But Anne proved to have a loveable personality, so hopefully Luz will be able to match Anne's charisma as well. For all we know, Luz could turn out to be totally annoying and unlikable, but hopefully that won't be the case.
>>108664948>it has some unfortunate implications.What?
>>108652538>So many pointy ears
>>108665548Place your bets, does she:>A) Fly side-saddle like a lady.>B) Stick that broom between her legs, put it into high gear, and ride that vibrating shaft measuring speed in orgasms per hour all the way to her friends in Niederbayern.
>>108664948>Shadow Cock>Unfortunate implicationsWhat?
>>108664277One single episode of a cartoon averagely takes 9 months to make. If they start production after the whole season has aired, the hiatus would be much longer. If ratings were bad the company could just cancel it mid production.
>>108658627name me other /a/ or /co/ shows that the creator actively looking for animators on twitter
>>108639517If anything it was meant to represent her leaning back against the wall and pushing her chest out as a result
>>108668889This got me thinking. Dana's post not only welcomed amateurs to apply, but also those outside of California/USA. Is this not against employment agreements Disney may have with animation unions/guilds on the west coast? Maybe a current animator in California can weigh in.Either way, I think this is likely a sign of not only internal production issues, but also a budget crunch as a result of the delays/rumored scrapping of previous work. Dana may be hoping to get some cheap labor to stay under budget.
>>108669730Nice, looks like it is from the first 5 minutes of episode 1
>>108669730lol how did Dana hire so many complete amateurs that tests keep getting put out (even after she publicly scolded the one artist who drew those alt outfits/props and the rejected theme composer), did none of these people even sign an NDA
>>108652908Jesus fuck that smug attitude.... If she didn't have that STD I'd love to put her in a mating press hatefuck. Why do I love smug woman so much co
>>108668742and honestly nowadays cancelling a cartoon mid production is really rare. Like the few times this decade I can think of are Robotomy and Secret Mountain Fort AwesomeEven when disney shut down marvel animation they were like "you guys are shutting down once you finish the current seasons of your shows", rather than immediately pulling the plug
>>108670403>Like the few times this decade I can think of are Robotomy and Secret Mountain Fort AwesomeNetflix cancelled Super Drags after 5 episodes. Technically, it didn't even reach half a season.I had thought Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty suffered the same indignity, but to my great surprise it's still airing on Nicktoons.
>>108652908There is literally nothing special about being a bisexual.
>>108670403>Secret Mountain Fort AwesomeI have this sneaking suspicion that Pete Browngarten threatened CN with a lawsuit if they didn't greenlight the show they were contractually bound to produce but CN kept putting off (Uncle Grandpa), and they agreed to move the production staff to UG which meant canceling SMFA.
>>108669930>lol how did Dana hire so many complete amateurs that tests keep getting put out You're in a thread where she's making public announcements on Twitter for employees. How do you think?
>>108669730>Basically a major scene in the first episode leakedNeat.
>>108646773That was actually made by an anon on /a/ called paintfag, he'd normally be found in the MHA threads but he's since left us for other places or threads as far as I know
>>108669730>Character encounters strange new world>STARTS FREAKING OUT>Meets their new best friend from this strange new world>FREAKS OUT>Protagonist almost dies>New best friend apathetically saves them as if they're not about to die>Character PASSES OUT FROM FREAKING OUT SO HARDJesus Christ, do robots write these cartoon pilots? I bet when Luz wakes up, Eda will be freaking out that she's a human and say comical things you would about a pet like, "She's so cute, I'm going to keep her. Uh, you are house trained, right?"
>>108668531>>108666981I think he means most shadow cock pictures are with men about to rape women and maybe doesn't get off at the idea of rape. Just guessing, I have no idea.
Alex's problem was over-reaching the extent of his involvement in his showDana's problem is just managing anything to go correctly
>>108651185what anime is that
>>108672293Ouran Highschool Host Club
>>108648068>A single animator can’t do the job of 40 board artists, character layout artists, prop designers, BG painters, sheet toners, etc.Actually, yes they can. Git gud, fag.
>>108664221>It also looks hugely out of date with an old design.Pitch Bibles are made before the final designs for a cartoon are set you dumbfuck
>>108638698I'm so glad. It's time for someone speak up for the pedophiles and ephebophiles, and we can finally have our own pride day.Maybe Epstein and the revelation that child-love is normal among our elites will finally force them to stop oppressing child lovers.
>>108638614Was it really delayed? I know they were announced at the same time. Maybe they just put Amphibia out first as a Star Vs replacement, since it premiered right after Star ended
>>108671843That's kind of autistic. It's a joke edit of a drawing. It's like two layers of it not being real.
>>108654318>>108661374I don't understand
>>108672559When someone asked Dana why there wasn't a preview of The Owl House opening at that year's comiccon, even though Amphibia had one, Dana explained that they weren't far along enough in production to have made an opening. So I am guessing even through they were announced at the same time, Amphibia had work started on it sooner.
>>108672559It was really delayed. It was initially announced back in February 2018.https://deadline.com/2018/02/disney-channel-renews-star-vs-the-forces-of-evil-announces-amphibia-owl-house-1202300438/The expectation was that the show would debut before Amphibia, because art and details had already been coming out before that.Then it was delayed to fall of 2019. When further delays were rumored, Dana posted pic related.Now we're looking at an unknown time frame in 2020, and they're still looking for "animators".
>>108673110>Tried to push a social agenda before its time>Storyboarders tried too hard to push a social agenda before its time and got fired by studio heads>Story has no merch potential and needs to be rewritten>Every other cartoon is stealing all its ideas.These are the only reasons it can be delayed.
>>108672395Based big dick rick
>>108673133>Every other cartoon is stealing all its ideas.Yeah, well, when everyone keeps leaking all the fucking tests. I can't think of any other show with an NDA in recent years with this many leaks.
>>108673133Those are all possible, but I think the more plausible and mundane explanation is that the team makeup favored youth and enthusiasm, rather than wisdom. Aged, experienced crew could navigate the impasses that are unpredictable, yet dependably arise in productions. Amphibia for example had a lot of recognizable names in the credits, and that show launched as smoothly as butter.
>>108673247>>108673133Dana seems to be doing the same thing Rebecca Sugar did: Looking for talent online because that's how they got their big break. Getting lucky and recognized from their art blog. Almost like a "paying it forward" kind of attitude. The problem is they were rare exceptions in a very lousy method of scouring for reliable talent.
>>108653674Alex Hirsch’s dommy mommy and a known insomniac.
>>108673280Agreed. I don't fault her for it, but that's the kind pitfall she's risking, and I think she fell into it.Also, if there's even a smidgen of truth to the rumor-mongering on /co/ about the personalities of the people involved, then they are probably the kind of people who don't take direction well from their seniors because they take everything as a personal slight, and connect every personal slight to some kind of greater injustice.
>>108672624And I wish I could explain.
>>108673183>shortsGuess the old witch is a leg woman.
>>108671907>Alex's problem was over-reaching the extent of his involvement in his showI see nothing wrong with pouring your essence into your show to make it 80% yours.
>>108673801You saw the problem. He burnt himself out by the time the option to renew for a season 2 came around and then started to half-ass it because he was just so tired and wanted to get the show over and done with. Hell, he wanted to quit after the season 1 cliffhanger.
>>108669426The tweet has not been taken down so I doubt it, if anything she would logically ask Disney themselves if its okay to ask on twitter in the first place. They'll have to go through the interview process anyways.
Another overly ambitious project going down the gutter before it even begins. Looks like the staff is mostly full of idea people or people who overestimate their talent.
>>108673405Yeah if anything they have good intentions, but there's a reason why we have situations where we have these sorts of leaks being spread around or crazy outbursts from people in the industry. There's a lot of young people out there who don't know better or lack the understanding of why NDA's exist. There are a lot of crazy artists out there, and I wouldn't be surprised if thats the reason so many of these people sending their emails are animators for vivziepop: they want out from whatever mess they have worked with.
>>108671907>>108673801>>108673839Alex's problem was being a self-admitted procrastinating hacklet of a show runner who combined doing things at the last minute with inability to delegate to create the volatile concoction of stress to meet deadlines that sucked the joy of life out of him faster than his gnome magic could replace by converting it from cheap liqueur.
>>108638643i bought a huion and my art and my wallet have been accomplishing great things
>>108663687>i can't fix my own equipment>i can't troubleshoot softwareand you're calling others retard?
>>108654318>>108673555Has Dana seen these?
>>108669730>luz gets roofied
Is Owl House over before it even begins?
>>108673110I truly think they’re getting back shit work from overseas. They’re looking for additional in house animators to salvage what they can rather than scrapping everything they have and risking budget & falling further behind schedule. This happens all the time and I know for a fact that one of the studios they’re using has caused a delay for another show.
>>108673133You know nothing about the animation industry so you?
>>108676808Their fault for using Steven Universe's shittiest studio in the first place.
>>108674276Alex’s problem was that he was a workaholic who worked all the time! But he was also a lazy hack procrastinator who never worked! He ended the show early on his terms and turned down Disney’s money to stay true to his vision- what a sell out! He wrote the whole show himself but also he’s a drunk who’s never written anything! He’s 3 feet tall, despite photos where he’s not!!You guys can never make up your mind about your fake memes about this guy. If you wanna know what Hirsch’s show was like behind the scenes, watch the 2 hour documentary with the entire crew talking about the show instead of listening to these contradictory memes
>>108677225>implying a Disney produced documentary won’t be biased
>>108677225>forming an actual opinion instead of relying on stale memes with nothing backing themGet a load of this guy
>>108638614No, just shelved to avoid over shadowing the DuckTales Reboot, this points to season 2 of Owl House being done by Toon City & Snipple in The Philippines as Korea is now too expensive.But this does hint at season 2.
>>108676808No, TV animation is supposed to be shitty, trying to make things look half assed will get you moved over to feature animation, this is not the 90s any more.
>>108676808Which studio and show?
>>108676808>I truly think they’re getting back shit work from overseasI don't doubt this, and the teaser trailer was generally underwhelming. But, and I've maintained this position elsewhere, the responsibility ultimately rests on the shoulders of the production staff in the US, not the Koreans or whomever they outsourced to. They cannot be expected to do the work they weren't paid to do.Storyboarders here can't keep shipping off sloppy work and expect overseas magic to solve all of the problems, or divine when they should be on-model and when they should follow off-model boards because it's "intentional" and "the personality of the boarder should shine through". It's how we end up with stuff like SU and OKKO.Pay more, empower the overseas director to make creative changes, or do better work here. This is especially important if they want a hand-drawn feel.
>>108677469You’re 100% right, a lot of the blame falls on those higher in the production chain but you’ll never hear them admit it.
>>108677444Season 1 was Rough Draft, Sugercube and SMIP, season which just started production will be Toon City & Snipple due to being "Cheep Toon Boom studios in The Philippines.".
>>108638614>ywn send in your demo reel to personally get assassinated by DanaWhy go on?
>>108664794They are trannies.
>>108677222Did something happen to Rough Draft in recent years? I've been watching Futurama again recently and that show STILL looks good, and even early SU Rough Draft episodes are pretty decent.
>>108677469In order for cartoons to be profitable enough to be made in America you'd need them to actually appeal to kids as a demographic instead of the relatively small 20/30 something subgroup that eats sugarflake cereal while taking a bongrip and watching "Reboot of late 80s/early 90s cartoon #12324". And that would mean no more using cartoons as soapboxes for hack writers who refuse to keep their opinions to themselves, which would immediately disqualify a huge number of creators from the industry. And until someone is willing to tell le stronk 35 year old dog mommy that no, her retarded blogshit isn't welcome in a show about a kid and a creek or a boy and his pet gem people, that will never happen.And even then they'd have to be made somewhere like Louisiana because states like California keep passing absolutely retarded wage laws that disincline businesses with close profit margins from setting up there
>>108668020You can see her riding a broom into the sunset with her cougar girlfriend in the teaser
>>108677749They got worse and worse once digital coloring starting to come to the studio, the cel era of Rough Draft was great but once digital coloring came in the only got worse and worse til the point that they were replaced with JM Animation (now Studio Mir) with Avatar as "best studio in South Korea" back in 2005, now of days outside of Simpsons (and still Akom is doing the "good" episodes now of days) and SpongeBob because of strong American layouts/key animation Rough Draft has gone down the crapper and is no longer the studio it once was back in the 90s.
>>108671791Everything's an imitation of an imitation of an imitation.
>>108677774That makes a lot of sense.
>>108677799Yea, Avatar changed the way Korean animation was viewed.
>>108677696Huh, I never knew. I thought it was just like fujoshi's.
>>108677749>>108677774Rough Draft was always competent but never great, because they were started for the sole purpose of doing outsource work. It's not a group of artists doing what they really wanted to do. Their strength was their output had no personality, which was seen as an asset by prime time cartoon writers for unfathomable reasons. Psychologically, they are every bit the sweatshop depicted in that Banksy Simpsons intro.
>>108677812>Their strength was their output had no personality.Which is why John K & Genndy love them.That Banksy Simpsons intro was from a Akom episode by the way, and Nelson Shin ripped it apart in more ways then one when it came out.
>>108677828>Nelson Shin ripped it apart in more ways then one when it came outAnd that's how we know it was true. Hit too close to home for him to laugh it off.
>>108653275the owl house girl is shown with some chest it seems unlike the other two
>>108677812>>108677828>>108677845Thank god SMIP is working on the SU movie then.
>>108677845The thing is Akom was founded by Nelson Shin to improve the lives of Korean animators much like how Greg Vanzo founded Rough Draft and if you see what the inside of these buildings look like they look nothing like what The Banksy Simpsons couch gag resembles.https://www.awn.com/mag/issue2.6/2.6pages/2.6vallaskorea.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lFfvuB0cYhttp://rdkorea.co.kr/
>>108677889https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/SunminAnimationClosest thing I could find. I dunno if they're alternating with RD like the series but I know I've read something else citing their input on the movie.
>>108677885Sure, which is why I was careful to say they were like a sweatshop "psychologically." It is pure labor for them. It's someone else's product.I'm sure Banksy didn't mean for his bit to be taken literally either.
>>108677906I see then, PC culture really messes you up.
>>108677904Oh here we go, proper confirmation https://stevencrewniverse.tumblr.com/post/179119082027/today-members-of-our-animation-team-at-sunmin
is it true she is a pedophile
>>108678029No, but this man is.
We don't even know her voice yet
>>108677469You can't also put the blame on the storyboarders because their job in a pipeline was NOT meant to be a layout artist. They were suppose to get things done fast just so the story can be viewed in a cutting room. Putting the responsibility on a board artist is equally unfair. Tie downs and layouts were literally not their job, but now they're forced to do it with no pay increase because of shitty higher ups who figured it was a "middle man".
>>108677264Shout Factory made it, Disney had no hand. There's some swearing in the commentaries and detailing of battles with standards and practices too, which would never had made it in if the Mouse had released the set themselves
>>108673280Harvey Beaks hired most of its staff from Tumblr and that production went fine (on the studio side of things, the way the network decided to treat it is a different matter) but that had CH Greenblatt at the helm who had more than adequate experience to reign them in. Hirsch also had trouble with time management on GF (a big problem was that he had never written a script before, ever) but Rob Renzetti basically took over all of the production management duties and got the show on track.It seems like TOH is really missing that one person high up who actually knows what they're doing
>>108679321Harvey Beaks also wasn't lore or story heavy but SU was and I believe Dana said that Owl House will be.A lot of people early on hired for Adventure Time and Regular Show were also people whose only experience were making webcomics and those were good, so I guess as long as you don't try to hire newbies to help make your grand scheme narrative story come true, your production should go fine.
>>108677469To be fair, most of SU's sloppy boards come from Rough Draft. You rarely see an SMIP animated episode that comes with Connie Balloon Head Quality or something similar, so I don't think it's as cut and dry as "boarder bad, studio good."Except for you Lamar, get your shit together
>>108679337Owl House is script driven, so the boarders already have the story pretty much written for them.
Word is they're going to premiere the intro/theme song at the DuckTales panel at SDCC next week.I wonder if we'll only have a camrip for months as was the case for Amphibia
>>108672514 So when does filming begin on GOTG3, James?
>>108671703Forget about Dana, how the fuck is Disney so goddamn lenient with these people while they keep leaking tests and parts of the pitch bible and all that? Used to be that even the most inconsequential of leaks would get you fired and sued by the Mouse, and now we have Dana, the fucking showrunner, publicly joking about breaking NDAs on stream. What happened?
>>108679664That would at least be a good time to show anything
>>108679844Publicly joking and then actually doing it, mind you. And she put it as a goal on their charity stream which means she didn't even discuss it with Disney beforehand or she wouldn't have to joke about getting in trouble the next day. Meanwhile, some guy posts an early BCG screenshot on Reddit and loses his entire career and Disney refused to pay him.
>>108676269>the three following panels aren't filled with nasty sex SFX and/or degenerate banterApply yourself.
>>108677225>surely this documentary that was approved and made by Disney Incorporated will have all of the dirt on them!lolHirsch wasn't a workaholic. Like I said, he was a procrastinating moron who left everything to the last minute and then had to go trough huge workloads, impacted by his inability to delegate and having to micromanage everything, he burned himself out like the dumb unprofessional hack he was. And fucking no-one ever said he turned down Disney to stay true to his vision, you dumb fuck. It's that he burned himself out and/or was seduced by Fox to make an adult-oriented show. I don't know who told you he's never written anything and he's most certainly a manlet.
>>108677766So she's your average shaftslut broomjockey?
>>108669730What kind of city have spikes randomly sitting around?
>>108680592Now this is some bullshit. Of course OH hasn't aired yet, but still.
>>108683046Dabbed by the ghoulies
>>108683046FFFFUUUUUCCCCKKKK! The dream is dead Luz/b/ros. Annechads... wonFarewell....
>>108678841>You can't also put the blame on the storyboarders because their job in a pipeline was NOT meant to be a layout artist.I'm not blaming only storyboarders, I'm blaming the entire production pipeline from the Western end. I don't care who does the work, it just has to be done before things get sent to the animators. Fair or not, the current system is heavily dependent on the storyboarders being able to draw fast and draw well. So if they aren't willing to pay for layout artists here or give creative control to people over there, then the only option is to hire better storyboard artists.Or accept that shows produced this way will keep looking the way they do. I'm okay with that, just don't blame the animators.>>108679361>To be fair, most of SU's sloppy boards come from Rough DraftThe problem here is that the SU crew explained the bad episodes as them wanting the personality of the storyboarders to shine through. In other words, those episodes are supposed to look that way according to them. They've taken full responsibility for it.I agree with you about Rough Draft. As I've said earlier, they're a pure outsource studio with no creative direction of any sort. But this is known. Which means the production side here knows they'll only get back something as good as they give.
>>108684324It's not like the SU crew would throw one of the biggest Korean animation studios used for outsourcing under the bus anyway. Rough Draft Korea could literally be producing absolutely shit work (and by all accounts, are and have, same as their US counterpart) but nobody who's sane would call them out for it since it's a small industry and who knows how many bridges you might burn taking feuds like that public? It just isn't worth it.
>>108683046Kinda worried that 1/3 of Amphibia pictures are without Anne.
>>108685788Anne isn't the only character in the show and a lot of people are finding Sasha to be hot.
>>108685849>The white girl gets more pictures the main, Thai character.How shallow.
>>108685788That's nothing to worry about. It's the other cute girl. You have to worry when trends like in the Ricardo and Mortimer fandom develop: 50% of the porn is gay grandpacest.
>>108638698what is /ll/ again?
>>108691525>againWho are you trying to fool, newfag? Lesbian loli, usually used for older woman and a younger girl, although technically, same as /ss/, also applies to two young partners.
>>108677578I'm skeptical, but if you're not bullshitting then good; Fillipino studios are better/more lively than korean studios (while Toon City's work on Star vs was a clear downgrade from Mercury's, they were better than Rough Draft and Sugarcube's stuff from later seasons)
>>108680897Keep forcing it
>>108679844Pitch bibles get shopped around and leak all the time.
>>108680243It’s all about how high up you are. A Showrunner can get away with it, a background artist not so much. Do you have more details about the BCG incident?
>>108669730>(not for production)pls commit not living if u think this is for the show
>>108696407Yeah board tests aren’t usually for actual scenes
>>108670084Sabrina really is a smug piece of shit. But then again she has had a reasonable amount of control over tv series starting at a fairly young age for her position. So it's not like it came from nowhere.
>>108638643winny the poo tien ann men massacre free tibet
>>108680897please stop, Luke
>>108696918Go away, Alex.
>>108638777there's not enough people there to animate more than a few seconds of anything per month
>>108639206social media makes you look "fun" and bypass any talent check.
>>108696739It doesn't help that for all her shitty attitude and entitled bullshit, she's actually talented. Maybe not head and shoulders above anyone else, but she isn't a hack technically.
>>108696739>>108696968Becoming a boarder on a major disney show at 22, being successful and then moving on to your own show at 25 does stroke the ego a bit.
>>108696938I never promised you that Bikini Cowboy series Luke, you were drunk and wouldn't shut up about it.
>>108645131twitter is yes-man fantasyland, you obey, you "contribute", you suck cocks bravely. "OR ELSE".It's pretty bad in animation since people openly blacklist you for a twitter faux pas, and you can count for the memory of your followers to keep the list on check forever.
>>108680897NO YOU STUPID LUKE!!! ALEX IS SEVEN FEET TALL AND CAN WRITE FLAWLESS PLOTS WITH FIRE FROM HIS EYES AND BOLTS OF LIGHTNING FROM HIS ARSE!!
>>108680897>”who are you gonna believe? Everyone who worked on the show, or me, a random guy on 4chan with no sources or evidence?”Go home Luke
>>108640786>it was ok for adventure time, SU and ok ko>but now the same price and same results aren't enough>clearly it's the animator's fault and not us abandoning details storyboard and art bible to cut corners!.
>>108697010What? Sabrina doesn’t have her own show.
>>108679321This is based on nothing
>>108650890you lost yourself in your bubble faster than /sug/ ever did
>>108677264>implying co knows more about a show than its employees
>>108697047Not him and I don't know about the show drama but the claim that Alex isn't a manlet is preposterous. Anyone who has met him at a con can tell you otherwise. He isn't TURBOMANLET status like Matt Braly but he is definitely height deficient.
>>108652547yes. She never believe to not be a woman at any moment. The problem is bas translation interpreted by idiots.
>>108697047Lol are you really going to pretend that a Disney documentary is fair and balanced? After they flipped their shit over Sweatbox & DOSD? I get it you like Alex Hirsch, that’s fine but taking any Disney produced doc as the ultimate truth is peak shill autism
>>108652908>that line spacingit's always the same people
>>108665548that's a little boy you fudge packing homo pedo rapist
>>108697225Nope! This is a little boy!
>>108697065It's not your show any more, Dana
>>108697018It can be as light as following someone they do not like too. Or failing to unfollow someone that goes bad quickly enough
>>108697018>>108697496Ok. I'll bite. Prove it.
>>108697544How can anyone prove it when no one is ever officially told they are blacklisted themselves? They just do not get hired anymore. How is a third party supposed to go find out the actual irrefutable proof to satisfy random anon on 4chan?
>>108697544The loads and loads of tweets from May of 2018 with boarders and animators threatening blacklisting of anyone who says the first negative word about thundercats was not enough for you?
>>108697402Alex is still not going to hire you
>>108697794>>108697811>>108697846So nothing?Got it.
>>108697850Summerfag, got it
>>108697850that's there secret anon it is nothing, and it's nothing covered in ez pz fanboy sauce.
>>108697850You want people to go dig through year old tweets just for you?
>>108697980Still nothing? You could at least made a fake screencap or something.>>108698002Sure, why not.
>>108698009How about you go to twitter, go look up thundercats roar and go reading
>>108698037You know where it is, who said it, and when it happened....but somehow can't seem to bother grabbing the very thing to back up your claims.Almost as if, everything you said might be....bullshit?
>>108698037How about you do it for me, faggot.
>>108698037You made the claimYou said you know who did itnow go get itI'm waiting
>>108698037We're waitinghow about that proof
>>108698037if your talking about that edited screen cap where an anon removed the context of them calling a boarder a worthless cunt to get a reaction, and then screen capped a section of it for outrage fags like yourself i will beat you to death for still believing that.
Talking shit about a reboot won't get you blacklisted.Making art where you date a character on a show you work on will get you blacklisted.And possibly committed.
>>108698076you got a source, you just refuse to read it.
>>108698121Think anon was referring to the backlash about Thundercats Road thing where a bunch of smug boarders like Corey Barnes and Niko Coleo were making really non-subtle hunts about how students complaining will find themselves blacklisted
>>108698215And you have......absolutely fucking nothing. SHOW it or you are just bullshitting
>>108698220>huntsI seeThese were actually subliminal calls for action to hunt potential animators for sport.I can see why this is problematic.
>>108698220>pics or it didn't happen
>>108698235>I HAVE THE LINKS I REFUSE TO OPEN IT'S THE SAME AS NOT HAVING PROOF OK LALALALALALALLLALALALA I WILL NOT WATCH I WIN
>it's a "I'm a phone poster I can't google it's the same as you not proving me wrong" episode
>>108698220if you act like an unhinged fuck of a human being with any account attached to your real name or work history.i know facebook normalized putting every bit of fucking detail for anyone too see along with your real name, but if you expect companies to not do a history check now a days i really don't know what too tell you.
so what will be the excuse? "it doesn't count", "it's shooped" "it was a joke you don't understand" or simply "have sex, incel nazi"?
>>108698328>>108698345>some litterals who with no connection to the industrySure retard
>>108698328>>108698345>it's an edited screen shot directly referencing this post the context anon>>108698121
Luke and EZ are working overtime tonight!
>>108698328So this is not a boarder or showrunner of any kind. Just some literal who mouthing off trying to look scary.I believe I asked for PROOF of some kind. Which you did not deliver
>>108698345I'm sure you here insults on a daily basis.And rightfully so.
>>108697018citation needed>>108697794Well...nevermind. LARPing summerfag
hold up i actually still have the context pic of outrage fags autistic screeching, it'll take a bit as i have it saved to an old external.
>>108698427Sure you do
>>108698427>Let me shop a pic real quick, give me a few minutes
Just thinkWhen the Owl House actually comes out, it will get much worse than this
>>108698368>>108698372>>108698372>>108698391and I got a bingo! You proved why you didn't deserved more than links to begin with, you are fanatically refusing reality at this point. Nothing count, nothing matter, only the sacred feelings of the "superior authority" you defend on social media.
>>108698497This is just sad
>>108698514that you refuse the proof you asked? yeah, it's terrible, you never grew up and expect the respect of an adult. It's gonna bring the whole industry down sooner or later. No wonder you cling to "superior authorities" to fix your mess.
>>108698497>You proved why you do not deserve the thing I made up!Yeeaaa, that must be it. Surely it's not because you have no fucking way to back up a single claim and you are doing this instead of admitting you made it all up.
>>108698538No, I mean your life. It's really sad. The only way I could think of improving it is for you to kill yourself.
>>108698436but i do>>108698440sure bud just like your fellow outrage warriors just did.>>108698497kill yourself keyboard warrior
>>108698604>another nobodyWow, you really showed me, anon!
>>108698615>so obsessed with his precious mob mentality that he can't connect the dotsgo over the 3 images slowly.
>>108685849>>108686518>>108689884It's actually Maddie, the goth froggo, who makes up the bulk of non-Anne Amphibia porn, not Sasha.
>>108698631Hmm, yes. It is I who is obsessed here.
>>108698668you sure are outrage culture drone #478901, you sure are.
>>108698695Gee, I sure am.You read me like a book, anon.
>>108664167Owls kill frogs.
Owl House is going to be the worst thing to hit /co/ next year.
>>108699353Keep forcing it, Luke
>>108699353the threads are going to be as bad as she- ra at this rate, makes me tempted to just watch the fucking show and wait for it too appear on /trash/.
>>108698615>nobody's count, they just work in the industry they don't COUNT if I haven't met them personally and licked their transition scars OK
>>108698562>No, I mean your life. It's really sad.o noooo people actually back up their argument it's so sadddd they don't pray every hour to twitter false gods and corporate slavery o nooooooooooooooo I'm so sad to not be approved by a sub human bootlicker o my goooood
>>108698636God is dead and we killed him
>>108699474>>108699488Don't be an assblasted fag, just put some effort into your shitposting and false narrative
Luz is hot and all, but the plot is basically LWA.
>>108699692Homeschool with Crazy Old Aunt instead of Witch Academy, but yeah.
>>108699759But from the teaser it look like Luz also goes to a magic school
>>108699372Redpill me on the Luke thing. Ive heard something about "Alex cucked him with Dana!" But that just sounds like 4chan projecting its own fetishes and fantasies on animation "celebs"
>>108700059To me it sounds like a bunch of people taking advantage of Dana's melodrama.
>>108700059lose association to /co/ figuring out the "inside source" of a youtubers attempt at understanding what is wrong with the animation industry, when in reality it was just some edgy internet warrior who happens to be an encyclopedia dramatica admin with an idiot audience,you know the kind that use pepes as profile pictures and take /gfg/ shitposts as divine fact, but basically /co/ found a suspicious tweet by the dude who had no text but the joker doing that hospital scene, this lined up with him being the only person that had worked on all 3 shows, star vs the forces of evil, steven u, and gravity falls. as well as the youtubers own admission that there inside source had worked on all three shows, basically there is this one obsessed sperg stain of a human being copy pasting shit posts, saving them for years, and then giving them too youtubers so youtube kiddies who can't think for themselves can feel validated.
>>108677807Fujos are where the fags are.
>>108638698Am I a bad person for liking /ll/ of I’m actual born female and self insert as the little girl with only attraction to the MiLF?
>>108700539I'm guilty of doing this too.
>>108700539>>108700639You have excellent taste and I'm glad to share a board with you. Also same.
>>108700539You are a bad person for not posting your tits.
>>108700539So, about the same reason for most males who like /ss/?
>>108638643what is the best screen tablet for performance and value, asking for a friend (the friend is me)
Amphibia=gravity fallsOwl house=Steven universeCan we all agree?
>>108700954Amphibila = Billy Dilly's Subterranean AdventureOwl House = Beetlejuice
>>108700954>>108700975Amphibia = Magic Knight Rayearth Owl House = Little Witch Academia
>>108700975>>108700954Both y'alls wrongAmphibia = ApocalyptoOwl House = Suspiria
>>108700954Amphibia = AmphibiaThe Owl House = The Owl House
>>108701106Amphibia = Brown GirlThe Owl House = Brown Girl
>>108701166So... if i know my math, thenAmphibia = The Owl House
>>108638643Huions suck ass. Which is why I had to save money and buy a Wacom Cintiq.
>>108695314He deleted his cautionary tale Reddit post explaining the incident a long time ago but he was a closed-captioner with a cushy job where he was making good money doing it from home. In the episode "Paint Misbehavin'" Cricket paints a picture of Trogdor from Homestar Runner and this guy was captioning it and thought it was amusing so he posted a screencap of it somewhere around 3-4 months before airdate. Disney caught wind, he tried to profusely apologize but it was too late, and now dude has to get a job working as a janitor 9 hours a day.
>>108701308Yes! It's perfect deductive reasoning!
>>108701810That was fucked up on Disney's part. It did no real harm, and let's face it, this show could use all the advertisement it could get.
>>108674367>fix it>breaks again anywayi don't think you understand what "unreliable" means
>>108674367>chink cheap shit>worth fixing>chink softwareHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>108644032Reminder that storyboards for 90s shows were generally extremely rough because they had in-house layout and cleanup artists so the boarders could focus on writing jokes, while nowadays boarders essentially are doing 3 jobs in the same amount of time and for the same (relative) amount of pay as they got to do sketches back then.They're not bad at their jobs just because they can't deliver absolute perfection within a very tight deadline.
>>108698345>Hayden Myers>”in the industry”L M A O
>>108640648>https://stevencrewniverse.tumblr.com/post/179119082027/today-members-of-our-animation-team-at-sunmin I worked at one of these overseas studios a while. I can only speak from the experience I had while I was there as a fresh grad. I can think of 2 possibilities: 1) When the studio sends out their test for the show they have their best staff work on it. This doesn't reflect the maybe 70% of new blood workforce they constantly have cycling out, because there is no financial retention for developing their skills with said studio. So yeah there's bound to be some disappointing shots going back their way. 2) A company can't make their mind up. There was one show I worked on that the animators treated like the plague. It had so many unpaid changes (animation not perfect, character designs constantly updated, animation style changed) everyone downright refused to work on it and it halted the production completely. I still don't know what happened to that product. That's another direction it could have gone through.(I had to quit because I couldn't afford to live in the city anymore, I burned through all my savings hoping to 'make it')On a side note: I would not be surprised if some of the leaks were made by some freshies at these 3rd party studios. You can worm you way into bringing some bible refs/scenes home to work on if it's crunch time.
>>108702847Taylor C. works at CartoonNetwork.
>>108703297You worked at SMIP? Or someplace else
>>108703579Okay? Crop out the other nobody, then.
>>108703745Maybe don't throw an autistic fit because a comment was included in a relevant picture.
>>108703691Someplace else in the Philippines. I don't want to say the name because they'd probably figure out who I am and blacklist me for even bringing this stuff up.
>>108703943Gotcha, say no more.
>>108703929>two posts>throwing an autistic fitYou’re a big fat baby.
>>108704164Pointing it out at all as if that changed the point makes it autistic, yes. Telling the person to "crop it out next time" because it triggers you just to physically see it is also autistic.
>>108646773The paintfag archives are down though
>>108702784I don't envy them. But they gotta do what they gotta do. As I've said earlier, the ideal way going forward should be to pay for real directors at the animation studio and empower them to call the shots. That's how the Disney and WB cartoons did it in the 90s with the Japanese, that's how Studio Mir is doing it now.They can't keep storyboarding these shows as if they're flash/rigged.
>>108703983bless ya anon
>>108702784It depends on the production. Invader ZIM, Avatar, and Ed Edd n Eddy, for example had VERY tight storyboards.
>>108668889It’s actually very typical for anime studios to look for new animators on social media. It’s because there’s not enough people on the industry considering how many titles come out every season and the episode is about to air. It’s sad but this is the state and future of 2D animation.
>>108704195Sounds like something a big fat baby would say.
>>108704339Of course it varied based on the showrunner's desires for the show, if anything I seem to recall that Bryan Konietzko's boards for Zim were overly elaborate (often drawing a complete background, basically like finished comics panels) to the point of causing problems for the overseas studio. And despite being relatively recent Regular Show had rough boards (sketches on sticky notes) and in-house cleanup/layout too, the animatics they sent to Korea were very elaborate and essentially fully finished (albeit uncolored) keyframes, and they didn't put that responsibility on the boarders.Lots of different styles of production out there, but it's just gotten a lot more common on the whole to skip steps.
>>108701029>Amphibia = Magic Knight Rayearth When are the mechs coming in? or should I say Giant Magical Armor?
>>108704195>how dare people be coherent and know what they talk about >FUCK OFF AUTISTS I WANT TO WIN WITH FEELINGS FUCK AUTISTS AUTISTS AUTISSSSTwhat a childish tantrum
>>108704829>Has a tantrum>Accuses others of having a tantrumImagine being this triggered by a comment included in a relevant-to-the-argument tweet.
>>108700539>>108700639Any fantasies about the milf breastfeeding you, asking for a friend