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Great now we have to deal with /tv/ AND /v/
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>>108107672
basically just another Tuesday...
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>>108107687
Thor, hulk/banner, and black widow all look terrible
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>>108107719
Well, duh. It's a video game.

Just wait for the nude mods for PC.
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Is that a man?
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>>108107784
How come we don't get any nude edits for animation like Wakfu? They have naked body models !!!
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>>108107719
What is peoples problem with Thor? My only issue is the lack of helmet?
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>>108107719
Marvel ultimate alliance looked better than this and that game is a decade old
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It's been the case for at least five years though
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>>108107797
His armor and Santa Claus beard
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Thor looks all right. Tony probably got the best look, which I guess isn’t surprising as this is a Square Enix game and he’s the big favourite in Japan.
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Game looks souless and doesn't FEEL like superheroes. Oh well at least I still have ULTIMATE ALLIANCE 3
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>>108107886
Square Enix isn't making the game. They're just publishing it. Crystal Dynamics are making it.
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>>108107886
Are these from the Wii version? It's looks terrible.
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>>108107672
Did they give Thor's jaw to Widow by accident?
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>>108107886
He legit looks like Adam Jensen.
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>>108107672
Society of Virtue/Avengers crossover confirmed?
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>>108107672
it's like they suddenly lost the rights to the actors' likenesses at the last second and had to scramble everyone's features to avoid a lawsuit
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>>108107672
Thor looks more Roman like than Norse
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>>108108431
Why the fuck does everyone want them to look like the actors now but also hates MCU look-alikes at the same time
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>>108107672
It was inevitable when they didn't ban /pol/ for orchestrating brigades.
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>>108108165
Black Widow wishes she was as hot as that guy.
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>>108107672
>/v/
Who do you think makes Goku vs Superman threads?
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>>108107672
Did they just get a guy of the street to voice Tony?
Wtf?
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Is it just me or does BlackWidow look like Robin Williams in drag? Was this a Mrs Doubtfire deleted scene?
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>>108108163
No, he looks like Adam Jensen's Stun Double. Adam's hawt. Tony here looks like the average bearded due walking on the street.
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>>108107672
This looks really bad.
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>>108107719
Cap looks just as bad, but isn't in the image. Also I like that Hemsworth was such a giant baby about wearing the helmet, that even the game Thor doesn't get to wear it. I'm amazed he still has the hair.
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>>108107672
It looks like a fan-made youtube thing
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>>108107788
>We've seen this before?

Too bad that Disney it will not require them to fix the appearance of all the characters
Even the simple animation of them walking is bad
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>We are thrilled to announce the cast of Marvel's Avengers! @PlayAvengers
>@nolan_north: Iron Man
>@TroyBakerVA: Bruce Banner
>@LauraBaileyVO: Black Widow
>@JeffSchine: Captain America
>@WillingBlam: Thor
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They look fine
Depends on game play
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>>108107672
The two biggest incel boards behind /r9k/
Yeesh
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>>108107672

Black Widow looks horrible
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>>108109060
Disney has some fixation for trannies?
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>>108107672
The nintendo direct littererly broke /v/ (and a few other boards for some reason)
also it is absolutely the avengers fault for putting a dangerous engine in their ship at least I assume that's what went wrong, I didn't actually watch most of the avengers part of the presentation
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>>108109121
All then looks horrible
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>>108109120
>/co/
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Only a casual gamer here- can anyone tell me what kind of game/play this even is?
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>>108107886
Are you blind? Maybe Punished Tony but Thor looks the best.
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>>108109220
Looks like third person brawling with some QTE stuff. No open world though, just a hub, which might actually be for the best.
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>>108109229
>Punished Tony
>a man denied his Cap
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>>108109230
Thanks
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>>108108101
What, you want us to give a budget to the biggest franchise in the world right now
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>>108109189
/co/ isn't anywhere near as incel as /tv/ and /v/
/co/ is probably more racist, but not as sex obsessed
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>>108107672
>my nigga Beast showed up
I'm happy even if they did put Miles front in center instead of Peter
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>>108107672
Board can't get any worse than it is now
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>>108107672
How funny is that the K.Jenner (a mad mutilated man) look defines femininity in American media
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>>108107672

Nice to see Catherine Janeway branching out.
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>>108110917
Holy shit bro the first thing I thought when I saw her was 'kinda looks like Kate Mulgrew'
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Stop chasing the realism thing guys, stylization is almost always the better choice for games based on fiction.

Also, as much as I love the basedboy switch memes, all Nintendo had to do was keep a semblance of a pulse going and they’d blow out everyone else.
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>>108107672
I was expecting something a lot more significant. Seemed like a Chinese knockoff of Endgame
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>>108107672
What do you mean by we are dealing with /tv/
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>>108109298
>a man
ironman
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>>108107672
No we don't. Boards are separated by medium, not inspiration otherwise everything would be on /lit/.
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>>108111237
A man denied his iron.
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>>108111262
>Tony Stark, A Fallen Futurist
>"Hank, I'm already a demon"
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>>108107886
Tony looks like MKX human Scorpion.
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>>108107672

>>108109121
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>>108109298
>Punished Cap
>A man denied his Tony
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>>108111330
>>108109298
How high is Stony on your iron man ships?
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>>108107784
>Implying it will be moddable.
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>>108111329
So it's ME2 Miranda all over again.
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>>108111391
Not even remotely. Holy shit.
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>>108111348
Up there next to shipping him with Rumiko and She-Hulk.
Pepper only works as a love interest in the MCU, and then just barely as they skimmed over her hate of his being Iron Man in IM3.
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>>108111411
Ignore face, focus on ass? Seems similar to me.
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>>108111356
Doesn't matter if it will be moddable or not.
They'll MAKE it moddable.
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>>108111434
It seems similar because you're breaking it down to the bare minimum. ME2 Miranda was clearly focusing on her ass in a still frame. This is just a shot where she's facing the other direction and is clearly moving. "There's an ass" isn't comparable enough to mention, stop posting when you're horny.
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>>108107672
Is this the guy responsible for approving this?
Bill Rosemann

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-rosemann-b664bb79
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>>108111421
>the pain of shipping with Natasha
Well, at least people remember it, but it's mostly in teasing stuff, like kiss/kill or aus
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>>108111329

Could be better
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>>108107672
>>108107719

Its look like a fan film with a big budget.
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>>108111348
Numero Uno

>>108111434
That's just the standard butter face predicament
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>>108111474
Would have been unironically good and painful in the MCU. Especially if Nat still died on Vormir then Tony died after snapping. Plus I guess they would never have been able to have a kid, so Tony hyperfixating on adopting random young people would work even better.
I’m pretty set on Bucky and Nat in 616. Tony/Nat was good whilst it lasted in Ults.
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>>108111525
>Bucky/Nat
I'll kill you. That was such a cringe shit tumor slapped on her backstory decades after her inception. I refuse to touch it with a ten-foot pole. Tony is good. Matt or Hercules I could see. But no, Nat with soldiers/spies is trash.
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>>108111535
I’ll kill you back, fucker. I like it.
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>>108111580
Waid broke them up, didn't he?
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>>108111508
Why is cap wearing hockey pads?
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>Reports are coming in that fan reaction is negative due to the characters not looking like the actors

Of course casuals complain about the wrong thing.
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>>108111592
Eh, nothing is permanent in comics. I’m fairly happy with the amount of food there already is.
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>You see that tower over there? You can climb it.
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>>108111611
In retrospect, it was easy. Yeah, you can't have them do VA for it, but you could have modeled them faces.

>>108111580
Spy/spy doesn't involve progress. You need Natasha with a "normal" individual to make her need to grow out of her dysfunctionality, you need her with someone who'd demand more of her than fucking on the side while on deadly missions.
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>>108111597
To sell alternate costumes. Why do you think they can afford to cut on lootboxes and DLCs? This game is going to be a goldmine and they don't even have to try.
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>>108111645
I just ship things by how well characters get along, not by what would theoretically be best for them.

Besides, if I only shipped couples based on what was best for characters i’d only ship with OCs made up specifically for fulfilling the purpose of a character’s personal growth and change.
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>>108111391
>>108111391
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Did Insomniac ever explain who Taskmaster was testing Spider-Man for in his game last year? Since now we know he's involved here too.
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>>108111348
-oo Because I'm not a goddamn faggot. The truth is that he has hardly any good ships. IronWidow is passable, and Bethany was the best one. Rumiko was a fucking slut, and I don't know what he thought he was doing when he tried marrying a fucking 4 foot something Asian. His kids would've made Elliot look like a Chad. She-Hulk is a slut, and Janet's damaged goods. I used to ship IronFrost (meaning Emma Frost) back in the day, but she works too well with Cyke. Hey, maybe he could get Jeannie.
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>>108111624
He looks like Ruffalo and Norton fused together. I'm sure this was intentional.
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>>108111707
Understandable, I tend to enjoy ships with contrast in them. Two people that are just the same
>brainwashed weapons trying to regain their humanity and make up for their past
is blergh to me. Plus, I never liked Barnes.
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>>108111746
>Iron Man/Jean
Just imagine the rage
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>>108111746
I like Emma with Cyke too, but I see the potential with Stark. Any stories for Tony/Emma content?
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>>108111756
He looks more like Todd Howard imho famm
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>>108107672
Somehow I feel this won't be any diffrent, they're basically both just /pol/ light anyways
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>>108111767
Contrast is fine. I just like there to be a deep and profound level of trust, too, which is apparently very hard to writers to get across in comics.
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>>108111452
Now I see. You completely misunderstood me. It was never meant to be so specific a comparison as you're making it out to be.

I'm comparing the thought process being applied in that post, i.e: Face model bad, so pay attention to butt. I was never directly contrasting the two character models themselves, saying they look the same.
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>>108111788
Obviously, but there aren't two individuals (unless it's someone like carnage) that you can't have get deep trust, through the story.
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>>108111785
Black Widow looks like like a clean shaven Thor with a red wig.
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>>108109315
> more racist thatn /tv/ and /v/
Hardly
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>>108107672
>we have to deal with /tv/

But we are full of DCfags already.
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>>108111746
>Jean
>with anyone
No thanks.
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>>108111777
>those digits
It has to happen, it's a divine sign.
>Sinister REEEEEEEEs real hard because his ship won't work
>Cyclops tries to hide his angery by power slamming Emma; she loves it and actually tries to keep IronPhoenix going so that she won't have to worry about Jean
>Jean's happy to not have to deal with Scott's whinning and holy shit, the guy's loaded
>her usual outbursts don't work because Stark's not an emotional autist and puts her in her place
>joins the Avengers, leaves the filthy muties behind and becomes adored by everyone
>their AU Future Son is basically the Illusive Man with Telepathy; Cable hates his guts
>their AU Future Daughter is basically Elizabeth (from Bioshock Infinite); Rachel and her get along okay-ish
It unironically works.
>>108111779
Lierally none because it was mentioned once in Civil War. There's that Uncanny X-Men 02 Annual from 2009 or so, where a young Tony is being a sleaze in the Hellfire Club, and Emma and Shaw see him as an embarassment. Honestly, the guy fucked her in a Secret Society Club and she's plastic. He'd never waste his time having a proper relationship with her. He considers her a skank and thinks lowly of Scott because he stays with her (that Dark Reign X-Men One Shot).
>>108111902
Nah, fuck off, Jeannie's not as bad as people make her out to be.
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>>108111935
It’d all be well and good until she mind controls him into doing something/changes his mind in some way and he has a mental breakdown because he gets flashbacks to all the other times he’s been mindfucked.
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>>108111993
Come on, it's Stark, he's got shields. And again, people meme Jean too much; she wouldn't do that. If anything she's too much of a pacifistic, idealistic cunt. To this day, this has been their longest interaction.
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>>108111746
>>108111935
>>108112027
But Stark hates Muties.
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Remove everything that isn't drawn or animated.
live-action, out
vidya, out
twitterdrama, out
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>>108112243
Fuck off Cartonfag. I'd rather keep /tv/ and /v/ stuff than your cancer.
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>>108112243
Can we remove cartoons too? Just have comics, cartoons can get their own board. /mlp/ maybe.
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>>108112217
tbf every character suddenly hates mutants once they're put into an x-men book or whenever it calls for it, even cap.
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>>108107672
Widow has the manliest jaw of them all, including Hulk.
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>>108111330
>we'll never get a Secret Avengers movie
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>>108112321
She looks like she's transgender. With her massively reduced bust it could be canon.
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>>108112303
>He says
>while posting a page where Cap says he's going to trust the X-Men
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>>108109022
only criticizing what i can see.
>>108111508
Fuck he looks terrible
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>>108112217
Hmm, good point.
>>108112367
Yeah, but Stark's not liking it, that's his point I think (since we're talking about Stark).
>>108112303
Eh, can you blame them? Honestly, upon rethinking it, I don't think it could work. Stark's paranoid, he wouldn't be able to live with a powerful mutie, let alone a telepath. Jean'd want full transparency and that'd be out of the question for him. It'd go very south, very fast.

So, I'm back to square one on my IronShips... Fuck, why is it so hard? Elsa Bloodstone as a callback to Viva Las Vegas? Too magick-y for his liking, probably. Silver Sable? Moonstone?! Dammit, I can't think of anything!
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>>108107672
We had to deal with /v/ ten minutes after the battletoads trailer pissed them off and they shitpost over here for an afternoon
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>>108111785
she looks like Xena.
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>>108112303
>no one wants another avx
I love meta commentary like this
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>>108112416
>Yeah, but Stark's not liking it, that's his point I think (since we're talking about Stark).
Yes that was my intent.

>>108112367
Even then he's still a bit reluctant to fully put his trust into them.

>>108112526
>no one wants another avx right now
>right now
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>>108111853
Nah. /tv/ and /v/ are too obsessed with women to be racist
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>>108112619
>say nigger on /tv/
>have some bants with the lads
>hit up the nearest waifu thread and post GodDAMMIT and "tfw no gf" while sharing feels about Hollywood actresses
>say nigger on /co/
>get banned for 3 days
Yeah, right...
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>>108112255
>cartoons are cancer
You don't belong here.

>>108112269
At this point I'd support comics getting their own board and cartoons getting their own board.
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>>108107672
Is that captain janeway?
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>>108112787
>You don't belong here.
Nah,fuck off cartoonfag.What, do I have to like every comic in existence to be a comicfag?
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>>108112303
>No one in the history of the world has ever trusted the X-Men
>Cap bringing up XvA
Makes me want to go re read Muh Phoenix
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>>108112799
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>>108107672
>that widow
What the literal fuck
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>>108107797
He looks whack. Photorealistiv faces with bad graphics and bad hair looks horrible.
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Shouldn't this be in /v/? I mean, this board is about comics and cartoons, and this is definitely not a comic.
Same goes for MCU threads, they seem more like /tv/ material.
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>Pym walks out
>Not Ant-Man, not Giant-Man
>Red coat Pym with a toolbelt full of lab stuff and a science bazooka
>Slightly cocky/confident/carefree attitude

Will our boy be treated well for once?
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>>108107672

Christ, this looks like a PS3 game.
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>>108113366
Good-aligned mad scientist Pym is best Pym.
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>>108109060
>>108109136
fuck off
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>>108113342
You must be new
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I bet the Captain America First Avenger tie in game is better than this
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>>108113583
Anon, all Pyms are good alligned mad scientists. It's just that people misunderstand them.
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>>108114176
No. I just know that only actual comics and actual cartoons should be allowed on here. Discussion of the MCU and this game should only be on /tv/ and /v/, respectively.
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>>108111624
I'm weirdly okay with this one.
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>>108107672
>IT'S MA'AM!
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>>108114357
It's comic related, I can't believe people need to tell you this. Go play backseat mod elsewhere
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>>108113366
>Toolbelt.
>Not literally pulling chainsaws and ray guns from nothing.
Do you even Pym?
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>>108112303
>You're my mutie, ain't ya?
>Imya mutie, cap.
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>>108114679
Muh mugga.
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>>108107672

trans widow
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>>108114602
>B-but it's comic related!
No. Just because it's related to the comics doesn't mean it's /co/. I'm not nuking the thread and I'm not a mod, sure, but I know that there's already a board to talk about live-action stuff.
Threads like this are becoming an excuse to shit up the board with more live-action.
And that's not even getting into the Battletoads threads.
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>>108114788
Stop being a cuck.
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>>108107886
>Thor looks all right
He looks like fucking Chad Kroger.
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>>108107672
Bruh, look at this dood. OHNONONONO HAHAHAHA
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>>108108707

If you make likenesses of actors, you tie the game rights to actor IP, film rights (twice over) and open yourself to a bunch of people wanting a cut.
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>>108115343
Just with likeness? How is that enforcable? Where's the line?
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MUA3 looks more fun than this

crystal dynamics are a bunch of hacks. nu raider games are shit
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>>108111448
>Wrong. It's confirmed always online like Destiny or The Division....you can't mod it
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Paula Poundstone. Took me a minute to place the face.
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>>108107886
They need to tone back his full-on RDJ facial hair or just ask to use RDJ's likeness.
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>>108107672
Holy shit, it's Bruce Jenner!
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>>108111508
>Cap’s costume

WHAT
WERE
THEY
THINKING?!
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>>108112799
>Do I have to know every comic in existence to be a comicfag?
/tv/snob exposed.
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I honestly don't mind Cap's more realistic body armor. I accept that this is a different universe from the comics and the MCU, so there will be a different interpretation of his uniform, it's just that American flag patch is a bit to on-the-nose.
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>>108107672
>we
Speak for yourself, faggot
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>>108111508

saggy tits

>MUH REALISM
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>>108111785
>>108112474

Black Widow looks like Tom Cruise with wigs
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>>108113317
and they put it in the foreground
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>>108111624
it looks like bob saget
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>>108111624
Banner looks fine because it literally doesn't matter what his appearance is, as long as he's wiry and nerdy looking it'll pass
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>>108118611
That's not how it even goes, you LARPing mongoloid. It's fa/tv/irgin. Christ, you can't even insult someone properly, then you have the gal to lecture me because I'm not a fan of any given comic, pretending that you've even done a single chronological run.
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>>108107672
>>108107719
Why do so many western games bite the photorealistic aesthetic bullet and practically have the characters just be mocap actors honestly gameplay looks fun but design is garbage
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>>108108064
So it’ll probably be a Ubisoft rip-off
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>>108108707
I hate both mcu and mcu looks likes because that’s all we fucking get anymore
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>>108111740
For the last time each game is unrelated the whole game universe thing crashed because no one wants to be tied to another companies story line
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>>108120092
The fact that you sound incredibly condensending and aren't even defending yourself tells me that you're way too proud shitting on fans of cartoons just because you feel too high and mighty to keep to your own board. News flash, kiddo. Cartoons belong on this board as much as comics. Not shit that belongs in /tv/ or /v/.
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>>108121392
Nah, I just think Cartoonfags are even bigger embarassments than Comicfags. Capeshit is childish, but watching cartoons past 13 is something I cannot even conceive of.
>aren't even defending yourself
What, you want a list of all the books in my hard drive? Want me to give you a rundown of Rai #07? Not everyone who calls you a childish faggot is a tourist.
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>>108107719
Thor seems alright, might be too much hair.
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What exactly about this is getting everyone so excited? The game looks painfully generic even by MCU standards.
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>>108111624
>Todd Howard as Banner
I ain't even mad
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>>108107672
Lol she looks like a fucking tranny.
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>>108115054
>iron mans helmet
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>>108121367
I love it!!!
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>>108107672
>>108109060
>>108111508
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Honestly all they've got to show is some hideous character models and a bog standard generic grimdark intro scene, it's not looking too good. I understand live demos where available after the presentation has there been any information from these?
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>>108107672
What's wrong with piling all the shit on one heap
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>>108116088
But you can visually mod online games. Except only you can see the effect. And sometimes devs may ban you for that - though in mostly happens in competitive online games
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How Western Game Devs design Marvel characters.
How Eastern Game Devs design Marvel characters.
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>>108107672
>thor is the same height as iron man
People forget that thor is supposed to be massive compared to everyone else.
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>>108111865
Get aids, Ladderfag
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>>108107719
Blame SFM porn.
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>>108108925
this
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>>108108776
>>108109121

She looks like a young Caitlyn Jenner
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>>108107672
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>>108108064
Square is the one with the deal, Square owns Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal who are both working on it.
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>>108123993
Anon…
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"You idiots! These are not them! You've hired their stunt doubles! Search the area! Find them! Find them!"
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They look like ugly cosplayers going to comic con.

>>108108431
In moments like this I wonder why western video games developers force themselves to make their characters look boring and photorealistic. The Marvel game on Switch looks way better because it made a better style choice for the character design.
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>>108111645
>but you could have modeled them faces.
Isn't that borderline illegal if they look too much like the actor and the actors didn't agree to it without a paycheck? They played it safe to avoid lawsuits I think.
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Considering they're taking potshots from the 'woke gamer' crowd for just having 5 white people, I'm surprised they didn't reveal Kamala Kahn to get the POC pop, since leaks are confirmed real
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>>108125347
Kek, good one.
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>>108107797
He looks so small, it's like Hank shrunk Thor but not his clothes. His cape also looks like a towel.
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>>108123993
fuck off retard
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Reminder this is one of the highest viewed trailers from E3
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>>108123993
Many thanks to whoever designed this and the Disney guy who approved
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>>108107672
Fuck, Natasha looks like a dude.
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>>108111508

who does these concept art should always have arts like these for reference
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>>108107672
We don't. It will be just another generic capeshit game which will be forgotten after month of the release.
I mean, just look at SM. Sony spent tons of money on marketing of this trash and yet it's already forgotten. Not even saying about tons of other capeshit games.
The only capecharacter who can have a decent game is Batman and it's only because he has interesting setting and characters around him.
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>>108127699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFx8qqa8_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXKrsJZWqK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOxEn9bRFeA
>TV: BTAS, BB
>Movies: 1989, Begins, TDK
>Games: Arkham Trilogy
>Comics: TDKR, TLH, Year One, TKJ
HOW DOES HE DO IT
O
W
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>>108121453
Wow. Talk about a shitty asshole. I don't even like comics, but you don't see me shitting on the fanbase, do you?
I'm starting to believe you are only on this board to act like an edgelord to everyone. Either that, or you're just an edgy teen who stumbled onto this site.
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>>108127984
I don't know, mate. For some reason, Batman unironically best capecharacter in every single piece of media he appers.
>animated movies: TDKR, MotP, UtRH
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>>108109060
i dont get how retards say she is ugly i dont get it is there some meme im missing
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>>108111535
>l'll kill you. That was such a cringe shit tumor slapped on her backstory decades after her inception
Thank god someone else realizes it, Brubaker's writing fucking reeked of self-insertion
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>>108107672

These character designs are awful. The Ultimate Alliance games shit all over them and those are like a decade old ffs
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>>108109060
Are closeted homosexuals still projecting their tranny fantasies on this shit?
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>>108107672
It's cute that you think this board wasn't infested with /v/ already.
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>>108128311
She looks like Sam Maggs and so she is horribly ugly, or something. Don't try to puzzle out incel logic, there isn't any.
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>>108107672
Don't forget /pol/
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>>108107886
He really does look like Perturbed Pedro
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>>108128560
are you blind retard?
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>>108128311
I don't get the Black Cat criticism I think she looks fine, but you've got to admit that isn't Black Widow in the OP it's the Ginger Panther.
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Imagine how ugly Kamala and Hawkeye are gonna look
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>>108128311
Man face, no cleavage
Terrible little saggy tits
these guys have a job and they do not deliver, but in this case they might be the sony assholes
We do not want cleavage!
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>>108127640

>women in comics should only look like bimbo porn stars because that’s what gets me hard
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>>108131426
>women in video games should only look average because then i won't i feel insecure
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>>108128372

Iron Fist's look is ass tho



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