Zdarsky's first arc on Hornyhead comes to a close."Know Fear" Finale!
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>>107587751I haven’t read any DD since that one retarded hack Soule replaced Waid. Has it gotten any better? Is Murdock a defender again, or prosecutor? Relationships?
>>107587850the "I dress like that because I'm blind" memenever gets old
>>107588172It has definitely gotten better than soule
>>107588205Good, I’m glad to hear that.
>>107587814Can a car door really be used as an anti-bullet shield?
>>107588303No, it's basically just a sheet of metal, it won't stop shit. There's a reason why they tell you to take cover behind the engine block of a car if you get involved in a shooting/shootout.
>>107587856>>107587850I know that Iron Fist has killed before, but have Luke or Jessica been shown killing someone in the past?
>>107587886>It's over. I'm spreading the word.Since when is Spider-Man considered an authority figure in the superhero community?
>>107587886Like I know I'm being pedantic, but who the fuck is Peter gonna call exactly? He's pretty much the only major hero at Marvel who still adheres 100% to the no-kill policy, and to be frank he's got no fucking room to judge Matt for accidentally killing someone when he himself fucking punched a woman's head off on accident once.
>>107588370Since before Brand New Day happened. It's easy to forget since we've had a decade of shitty comics and dumb fans who think Spider-Man should be a joke.
>>107588370>hey guys, so, Daredevil is done. if you see him, beat the crap out of him>fuck off, Otto
So, does War of the Realms happen before or after this story?
>>107587880Spider-Man taking a leadership position, get the fuck out of here.can't Matt get someone with actual authority to chastise him.
>>107587880I wish that Spider-Man and Daredevil knew each other's secret identities again. Especially the fun conversation when they both realize they used to know them.>So how'd you make everyone forget?>Doctor Strange used the same spell that made everyone forget about the Sentry, you?>The Purple Man's children used a machine to command everyone on Earth to forget that I was Daredevil.
the writing is pretty mediocre but the art is gorgeous
>>107588442I mean, what even would he tell them?>Hey Avengers, Daredevil killed a guy on accident so we've gotta go gettem!>"Every member of the team has killed at least once, and most of us did it intentionally, kid. Call us when there's an actual problem to deal with.">Defenders! Daredevil's gone too far and accidentally killed someo->"We know and we don't care">Hey Wolverine, Daredevil's gone too far and accidentally killed someone, we've gotta sto->"Didn't my friend manage to trick you in to punching her to death that one time?"
>>107587880>Whiskey is called Danny Ketchtop kek
>>107588509that reminds me when are we going to get a Wolverine and Spider-Man team up, have they interacted in War of the Realms?Best Buds reunion can't come fast enough.
>>107588509Does Spidey know that Strange straight up murdered people before?
>>107588509>>"Didn't my friend manage to trick you in to punching her to death that one time?"That's probably the accidental murder that Spider-Man mentioned this issue.
>>107588509Remember how the defenders straight up said “you can’t keep us in a prison, so bye bitch” after the events of the order?
>>107587880Who did Peter kill?
>>107588919Charlie, a friend of Wolverine who wanted to die, so she pretended to sneak attack him, knowing full well that Spider-Man would think that he was punching Wolverine and thus wouldn't hold back.>https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Spider-Man_Versus_Wolverine_Vol_1_1
>>107587761>his guy'sJesus, this is the very first balloon>Devin Lews, editorMy ass
>>107587832I'm surprised that Marvel didn't even try relaunching the Defenders after Bendis left.
>>107589291They had a "The best defense" mini with the OG4
>>107588349Luke has definitely killed guys -- in the "Early days of Batman" sense, where a dude "falls" off a building or into a vat of industrial lye, or, you know, he slugged them so hard that their necks broke, or something.
>>107588726Basically no one did besides himself and Rintrah>>107590239Nah, they were innocent
>>107587891>>107587886>>107587880Peter needs to get off his fucking high horse before he cracks his tiny little noggin'.
>>107588509>Hey guys, you know the local ninja that once managed to make a zombie pagoda of other ninjas appear in Hell's Kitchen? He's getting shit-faced now on whiskey and painkillers before going out to stop crime. Keep an eye out.
>>107588172Vastly superior to soule, he’s kinda between jobs right now but he’ll probably go back to a Defense Attorney position now that this arc is over.
I liked it, it's been a while since I stopped reading DD.I always figure out Zdarsky was just a meme writter.
>>107588303Not at all. It’s a common misconception in fiction that cars are bulletproof- they aren’t, most calibers rip through them like butter.
>>107592171Nah, the sandman arc of his run on spectacular genuinely surprised me with how fantastic it was.
>>107588919A few people, on accident mostly, but still.
>>107587900>Matt quits....AND THIS TIME IT'S TOTALLY, SERIOUSLY, FOR REAL!Yeah yeah. I love this series and it is one of the few who so far has had a pretty consistently good run but this is getting annoying. Thanks for the story time OP.
>>107587880>>107587886>>107587891I love how Checchetto draws Spidey.
>>107592171Zdarsky just has a meme personality, he's actually a surprisingly competent writer.
>>107587891tiny, spider hands.
>>107592171>I always figure out Zdarsky was just a meme writter.That's mainly cause his rise to fame was being funny at comics places. You can see the change when he was doing Spectacular Spider-Man.
>>107587891>>107587886>>107587880so, how come he's never confronted Cap or fucking WOLVERINE over this same shit?
>>107588530When was even the last he appeared?
>>107593918In Daredevil's case, it seems to be more that he is no longer in physical or mental condition to keep it up, he's sloppy.
>>107594065He showed up in Dan Slott's FF, along with every other character who has ever been in the FF.
>>107594078Yeah, it’s basically an intervention for his sake.
>>107590214that's middle days of Batman in the early days he was a straight up psychopath machine gunning niggas down. There's a famous issue (one of the first btw) where he simply hangs a dude in the batcopter's rails and flies around until the criminal's neck breaks.I mean at least SnyderSupes is quick and painless.
>>107588509>>107588726>>107593918His issue isn't that Matt killed, his issue what Matt did afterwards. I swear some of you can't read dialogue.
So Zsdarsky is on fire right now it seems.
>>107596107>I swear some of you can't readJust leave it at that.
>>107587850This was a heavy issue, but that third panel made me guffaw.
>>107593918They aren’t in obvious mental and physical duress.
>>107588172Is Waid really that much better tho? Couldn't stand his run, at least compared to Soule's.
>>107597890It started out fantastic- then it went to shit hard.
>>107597890Waid started out great, but he ran out of ideas just over halfway through and it gradually went from meh to shit
>>107597934Haha, I would argue that's what Soule's run felt like. Waid's run just failed to grasp me at all, except a few certain arcs like The Purple Children, and Ikari. The majority of it was just bleh, and all I hear is people loving his run and I have no idea why.
>>107597890yes, Soule fucking sucks
>>107598130Soule's run started shit and ended worse, like a long snake of constipated shit that's really sharp at the tailend.
>>107587793RIDING OFF THE RAILS-
>>107587880>>107587886>>107587891there are people after this who still think zdarsky shouldn't be writing amazing spider-man
Peter acting like a grown up superhero for a change?
Peter is now acting like a grown up superhero for a change over being his single ladies man dude who lost his memories of a family with MJ?
>>107600611>>107600669Are you okay?
I haven't really read much Marvel outside of Alias/Jessica, Luke Cage, X-23 and their stints in Avengers and X-men respectively in over a decade. Which heroes are actually still heroes and operate as vigilantes who rescue people and fight the lower level scum? Spidey seemed to stop for a while, I know that's where Daredevil basically lives, but I'm drawing a blank otherwise. >>107594078>>107594932>>107596107These. Fucks sake guys. Read the text in little bubbles.
>>107600881Stick to street level characters, Mrs Marvel (kamala khan), moon knight, Punisher, Moon girl, older venom books. Also Champions.
>>107592171He wasHe finally started to write serious on his 5th issue of Spectacular Spider-Man and the acclaim gave him the confidence to keep doing it
>it's another "Matt quits" arcDaredevil really does only have three or four stories.
>>107601805EDGY CHARACTER CONSTANT PAINDEAD GIRLFRIENDSNO DEVELOPMENT
>>107589291sad that Luke Cage and Iron Fist don't even have a book right now
>>107588349Jessica had Carol take the Purple Man and throw him into the sun. So yeah, they've all killed
>>107587900thanks, I liked this one a lot
>>107588509Peter should have retired a while ago too
>>107592943I know it won't last but I wouldn't mind Matt in a mentor position from now on. Blind Spot could be his first student
>>107587880Honestly I see this as kind of a bad moment in a way.Do you know how many times Peter has ABSOLUTELY fucked up in the worst ways, killed or otherwise, been framed for murder, and just plain sperged out and gotten into random insane fights that he shouldn't have after he did it?Do you know how it would look if Cap or someone came up to him after those times and went "Give it up"? This is almost peak hypocrisy. Peter has had almost more chimp out and fuck up royally and keep fucking up right after that moments than any other hero out there. And no other hero ever had the right to tell him to give up despite that.
>>107601805He does have Shadowland >smilesawkwardly.jpeg
>>107588349>>107602574That wasn't Purple Man tho.PM had Carol think she threw him at the Sun.He's still out there;)
>>107588919Accientally, a spy called Charlemanee see this>>107588971.On purpose? Morlun. Dock Ock once used his body to murder Trauma and before that, he once threw a gy and his bombs to the Hudson River in order to stop him. That guy never appeared after.>>107595899That guy was a mutated cannibal monster. He later locked up all of these monter in a room so they eat each other. Hugo Strange was behind this, IIRC.
>>107604812>tf when you turn into a demon unprompted and then grow a shitty beard, only to never mention it again It’s an abstract, but relatable kinda feel.
>>107587845>Zdarsky does an entire story arc on something Matt's done beforeMatt killed Nuke's handler in Born Again, and he was willingly ok with killing Bullseye at least twice before.>>107587856That is insanely out of character for Matt, to an insane degree. Matt isn't that much a naive child, he simply hates men like Punisher who murder as an answer to everything. He has fought alongside people who have killed before, but could at least find some common ground in the meantime, and would make them promise not to kill anyone while with him.This whole arc is the writer not understanding the character.
>>107587880>Earlier Spidey/DD relationship: "Hey man, I know what it's like to lose someone, and staying on the right path is hard, but I'm here for you">Current Spidey/DD relationship: "Man fuck you I can't be around you anymore"
>>107599828Is this supposed to make a case for him? Because it doesn't.
>>107587886I somehow feel like Peter wouldn't make a case that Daredevil is going to hurt superheroes, but should be more concerned with his wellbeing.Just seems like Peter being a dick.
>>107599828we know that he should since Spectacular
>>107604642To me it's funny considering the Sin Eater story. Reading it recently along with this just reminded me of what a fucking shitshow OMD and BND did.
>>107589291Defenders doesn't work and the TV show proved that (tho the characterization was off for Luke and Danny) and Bendis' run as well.You either go Heroes for Hire with Luke and Danny or have them appear as guests in DD's comics like Bendis' old DD run. Jessica Jones throws the whole dynamic off.
>>107589291The show wasn't well-received at all (and part of me thinks Bendis saw the writing was on the wall with that and the Netflix shows, and that might've been a part of why he left Marvel months later).
>>107608980>leftif your contract ends and no one is willing to renew it, you don't have that much of a choice.
>>107608902Just bring old Defenders back, the new one sucked from conception
>>107602278You forgot:JESUS VS THE WORLD
>>107607462Ech, one could claim that Daredevil is having a mental breakdown or something.
>>107602898How come Hank Pym is always meme’d as a wife beater yet everyone forgets this?
>>107609266Because Spider-Man is a popular character and Hank Pym isn't.
>>107587864>>107587869Tsk he only confused a person with another one, that was all. In fact the story is shit, what he simply said it in a soft way.
>>107609266Because cape writers are hacks.
>>107609222It’s pretty obvious if you read that dialogue- dude sounds like he’s having a manic episode.
>>107590543If Matt had stayed with the Defenders they could have defended him against Pete there.