Was introduced to me by a classmate who ranted and raved about it. Almost all reviews are positive.Except there’s no plot, the writer changed the title for “hack/fraud” proposes and the protagonist is by definition a Mary Sue (and I hate that Buzzword). Only positive I can give it is the art is on par with other tumblrcore comics
>>107583232What Anime/Cute things to people like
>>107583232Do sexual things to your fat classmate
>>107583232such cute art was wasted on a terrible story
I'm all for light character driven comics but this this thing makes no sense.Actually thinking about it, it is like when people make all their ocs and ship them and then try to put them in a universe they think works out.
>>107583232Like, the premise is cool. Except the “secret fight club/vigilante squad” aspect of the book is never actually explored or expounded upon. The main chick is asked to join and the rest of the series is just her going “Aw shucks gang...I don’t know about this”. And then they form a band like it’s fucking Jabber Jaw.
>>107583232Star Wars The Last JediCaptain MarvelThe Beauty and the Beast remake Interstellar Deadpool 2Teen Titans Go to the MoviesGhostbusters 2016Steven Universe
>>107583232Old title got me interested but then it turned out shit and the name changed, good thing I didn't buy.
>>107583468>Reminder, title was only changed so that she would make more monies if it were adapted into Movie/cartoons>reminder the author bounced from comics as soon as the sales came back
>>107583468What was the old title?
>>107583542Hi-fi fight club
>>107583597>Hi-fi fight clubThat's actually horrible, and Heavy Vinyl doesn't make much sense either.
>>107583899So it’s the same book but in a medieval setting
>>107583986Lady Castle manages to be miles worse but I don't know if anyone barring maybe someone who was paid to do so, praised it.
>>107583899I remember when someone storytimed that.Inspired me to write up an entire fanfiction story about another nation coming out and attacking them because during their diplomatic talks with the other nation's female leader she hated how the MC country handled their situation.Lost it on my old computer but it was gold I tell ya.Probably would have pumped out something about this >>107583232 if I ever got around to reading it.
>>107584653Now I know there were a couple edits of this out there.
>>107583232Pretty funny to see white liberals on social media praise each other for making comics with all-poc casts
>>107584653>could have criticized the guy for being rude and insulting some stranger’s tastes out of nowhere>instead goes off on a rant about how important the album isI get the impression this writer hasn’t talked to actual people in a while
Why do you feel the need to have this retarded pretense when you want to whine about SJWs? Either be upfront about it or don't do it at all
>>107583232If it makes you feel any better, I checked it’s tag on Tumblr once and even though it was fawned over in it’s debut, I couldn’t find any mention of later issues. Everyone forgot it existed and it wasn’t especially popular in the first place, so it had a short run.
>>107584764Yeah if it was a Lady Castle storytime it was probably me.I tend to storytime that and no matter what people are shocked at how bad it actually is. I love people remembering the whole thing with the Plague Doctor.
>>107583232is one of them a tranny, by any chance?
>>107584653I've only ever seen this one page.Is there a storytime anywhere in the archives?
>>107583597>Hi-Fi Fight Club>not Hi-Fight Clubdisappointed.gif
>>107583899>>107583597>>107583232The best that can be said for books like these is that they are at least original creations. The writers may be awful and incompetent at storycrafting, but the characters are theirs to butcher as they please.The real problem is when writers just as bad as these books hop into the Big 2 and appropriate established characters with decades of history. They take characters that don't belong to them, and insert themselves like a ghost taking over a host body. It's a type of corruption via possession.
>>107583232Oh this reminds me of that magical girl comic where one was a black boy tranny who wanted to be a girl and a red-baseball-capped tomboy and a mute blonde white girl and a shaggy frumpy glasses green one and a moth mommy waifu.I'm not sure if the story turned out to actually be good or bad or even what the reviews said, but it reminded me it exsited and spun of some pornof the tomboy and the ladyboy
>>107585391Something star force?
>>107585290I'm genuinely stunned
>>107584653>Nobody in their right mind would criticize the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, >Let alone someone in a record store in 1998>Let alone anyone talking to strangers and not minding their own business in a record storeIsn’t art supposed to be at least inspired by real life?
>>107585099It’s not about SJWs. I think Cyberfrog and Jawbreakers are just as bad friendo. I love diversity in comics, I like politics in comics, but I also like story in my comics.
>>107585454No but it supposeably has a 4/5 and 75/10The one I was talking about it seemed the mute blonde girl was the only white character and the rest were shades of brown.
>>107584945I see this occasionally and I'm not sure what the plot is, but it reminds me of this webcomic that was storytimed here about a morbidly obese brother and sister that move to a new town, open a bakery, and the sister makes friends with some unfortunate ginger guy that's really effeminate and keeps getting put into traction.And it's not for comedy, the kid starts out with a back and neck brace, gets hit by a car and when you see him in the hospital, all of the medical equipment is textbook accurate and detailed like it's the author's fetish.Also the brother looks like Dante crossed over with Boogie2898 and the sister looks like Chibi-Usa ate the rest of the Senshi. And she's this self centered bitch that never gets any comeuppance.What the fuck was the title?
>>107585503https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRUba8smRj0Literally never heard of it but your point stands.
>>107583232I want to see more of the cute blonde lesbian doing lesbian things.
>>107585658I hate you. :D
>>107585658>>107585684Not him, but c’mon man. Cute blonde lesbians are cool. I just need some substance to go with cute shenanigans.
>>107585658Then fuck off to your containment board.>>>/u/
I hate to sound like the average weeb that make troll threads here, but why the "west" (aka Tumblr) can't make a good mahou shoujou?
>>107585181>>107585494The tomboy in the baseball cap turns out to be a lesbian though
>>107585771Because they can only make superficial attempts while the core of the story they try to push is just their own marxist ideology with a frilly skirt.
>>107583232>tfw MC is a blatant rip off of Kristy from the Baby-Sitters ClubI'm not sure how to feel
>>107585774And isn't Tall Dark and Handsome gay with Dreadlocks who's the only full time employee??
>>107585793Go back to /pol/, we don’t serve your kind here
>>107585771>why the "west" (aka Tumblr) can't make a good mahou shoujou?The west is far too obsessed with subversion to show any loyalty to any particular genre. It always has to be "[genre] but with a twist" as if that somehow displays artistic intelligence. When the west does magical girls, they have to subvert it by throwing in some dykes or some trannies. The girls have to be fat, or act childish or both.
>>107585771A combination of issues and stress about the medium. Look comics for girls has always been that white whale for Americans till Raina Telgemeier and for a lot of reasons she's kind of the the only one at the top of the heap. Many of the writers only know how to write for older woman and that means none of them are really for a younger crowd, rather than being for young girls American mahou shoujo tends to be for Woman child, a woman who watched Sailor Moon in the 90's and made fan fiction about THERE PERFECT SAILOR SCOUT.
>>107583232Every other Boom comic post-Lumberjanes.
>>107583232stop with the fucking sjw vs. anti-sjw bait threads
>>107585837Check the authors of any of these and count how many aren't avowed socialists.You won't reach double digits.
>>107584653I'm still in search of lewds between brunette hat and the the blond dick.
>>107585909This was pretty good and holds up nicely
>>107585793>the core of the story they try to push is just their own marxist ideology with a frilly skirtHEY THAT'S WRONG SHI-THEAD!The barely dress their magical girls in skirts and frills.
>>107585947Please refer to here>>107585531
>>107585304>They take characters that don't belong to them>they belong to the fans!I guarantee you the distributors of the big two's character books give much less of a shit about them as the bogeyman sjws they employ. Saying "they take characters that don't belong to them" is a fucking joke. It's like sports fans who have pride in their city and local sports team but ignore the fact those teams employ players from other fucking countries. How naive are you?
I will never be able to see what's any good about Saga. Reading it actually makes me angry, it's such shit.
>>107586287Oh that's simple I worked at a comic shop and when there it was known as baby's first indie comic. For many people comics don't read like that and so since it was so "different" people overhyped it. When really you can find a lot of indie comics doing what it did even before it was published. Now if you were in the know about Brian K. Vaughn as a writer you know his worst tropes where coming so I can't wait for people to experience my sad bitter resentment to the ending of Ex Machina but on a larger scale.
>>107586266Listen, just because someone can take Mercutio from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet and turn him into a gay black man doesn't mean it should be accepted as a good portrayal of the character and praised as if it were rewriting the character in history(which it wont, but only because it's so old).Just because someone made the Count of Monte Crisco into a gay space vampire doesn't mean the fans of the original are invalid in their criticism of the changes to a character and story they care about.Just because Sherlock Holmes appeared as a gnome in a movie it does not invalidate the cries from fans of the novels about a lack of actually adapting the novel and character or how this portrayal is just out-of-character fan fiction.Just because they made a good Disney animated Tarzan movie does not mean the people criticizing the new CGI cartoon are wrong because "they can just go watch the other one"
>>107585771They keep ripping off Sailor Moon instead of a good mahou shojo.
>>107586585My nigga, finally someone that knows Sailor moon is actually pretty low tier if we talk about Mahou ShoujousCardcaptor Sakura>All
>>107583232Today i can't understand who anyone could enjoy this trainwreck.
>>107585947no one even mentioned SJWsYou only say this because you know it is
>>107586593That's because it is a mahou shoujo with super sentai elements. It wasn't trying to be the real thing completely.
Sometimes I really don't want to haven tons of prejudices but Jesus Christ, you see those covers with those expressions and you already know the story won't get better than a high school fan fiction.I'm curious about why they are always so tryhard at making the characters look "cool", as if they couldn't actually show a human side.
>>107585774I’m kinda sick of all these comics for girls including the one lesbian who’s perving on another girl in the group who happens to be into that. The guy who writes wasp wears that trope out.
>>107586405Sure, everyone has a valid opinion, but you'd have to be deeply retarded to believe a gnome sherlock effectively replaces the classic one. Each different version is just that: a different version. The classic version will always come back again and again because lots of its fans grow up to be its actual content creators. In the meantime it might be fun to have a gay space vampire Monte Cristo for a short while to fuck around with.
>>107585771Because Mahou Shoujo just like Mecha are genres that embrace the feminine and masculine at their best and worst.What hope does someone that doesn't believe in that have to make a good story with those themes?Also people that want to copy Madoka are hopeless hacks.
>>107586690Same I keep trying to stay optimistic and judge individuals [people and media] based on their merits and not their ideals or groupings but life keeps letting me down.
>>107585304You know what, you're right. Those are creator's own pet projects and pet characters. If they wish to use those for self-insert power fantasy, or shipping, or whatever, who actually cares? The mere existence of these books is not harmful to anyone (except maybe trees used to make paper). The problem only begins when same treatment is applied to characters and stories not their own, but ones with established history.
naming your coming Heavy any five-letter word, if it isn't like Heavy Metal, is setting it up for failure.
>>107583232Did anyone post this full image?
>>107585391>>107585634Jade Street Protection Services?
>>107586772>it might be fun to have a gay space vampire Monte Cristo for a short whileWatch Gankutsuou.
>>107586772The way Ghostbusters 2016 fans reacted to the news about the upcoming Ghostbusters sequel, they seem to think otherwise. And it's deeply ironic when you think about it.
>>107585771Aren't Lolirock and Miraculous Ladybird technically Mahou Shoujou?
>>107584945I only know about this one because the author wanted to send Howard Chaykin and the rest of Image comics to the PC gulag I mean "Sensitivity Camp"
Anyone remembered Powerup Comics?
>>107587659To be fair, the marketing of the film and their response to people complaining did them no favors either.
>>107584653>album sells well>that must mean it's goodthe writer is obviously a musical pleb
>>107583899Oh hey, it's Steven Universe, but without the Universe.
>>107585846Both witch and winx did that pretty well so i don t know what you re talking about. I suspect you don t either.
>>107588702Miseducation is a legit great album though.
>>107583899>winged pegasus out of fucking nowhere>it's treated like a cool moment instead of a complete asspull
>>107585531This. I'm fine with not being the target audience, but you have to at least make the comic not shit.
>>107586338>I can't wait for people to experience my sad bitter resentment to the ending of Ex Machina but on a larger scale.You shouldn't have long to wait: Y: The Last Man's being made into a tv show.
>>107586338You can kinda see how he acts in the ending coming based on some of his smaller actions throughout the series. The real problem is that BKV would need a couple dozen issues at least to fully cover the ending as presented.
>>107583232This version was better.
>>107585181Black hair in the back IIRC.
>>107586593Guitar Ninjas > Sakura > All.
>>107589833I think BKV wrote himself in A corner. He tried to develop it and there are clues. The problem is that BKV also did not have the time to earn his bad ending, his characters just have it happen because “no happy endings” and well this has made his shock stories rather predictable.
>>107585774>The tomboy in the baseball cap turns out to be a lesbian thougheh, not really the same thing, or even the same kind of thing
>>107584945I get physically angry when I look at that centaur. He's such an insufferable character.
>>107585909How dare you
>>107583232I assume only the cover was visually good and interiors don't.
>>107583232This reminded me only Japan can do majority/all-girl fight squads (e.g. in Sakura Wars, Gatekeepers) better...
>>107593295Actually the interior is pretty consistent, a bit more sketchy than the cover, but the art was good I thought. It has good layout, and characters were drawn consistently and attractively, good color selection although a bit faded or pastel, and I remember it has well drawn backgrounds that were paced in a good interval. The shots were not too cropped in and have good scene setting shots.
>>107585658Honestly dude, after a certain age, I find lesbians pretty goddamn dull at this point. It's definitely one of those things that sounds awesome in fiction but the reality is far from it.
>>107583232I skim-read it, so maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I thought the plot was about them looking into the abduction and brainwashing of musical artists? With the heroine stumbling into the group, and becoming a part of it, i thought that was at least a basic, early-group-forming sort of plot.There didn't seem to be anything particularly special about the heroine, so I can't see why she'd be a Mary-Sue. Kinda sounds like copy-and-paste complaints the OP just slapped in indiscriminately,So, is OP just full of shit and complaining about nothing?
>>107585391Wasn't there another "magical girl" comic where the main protagonist was a fat black woman, a mother, a dude in a dress, and fish? And they literally did nothing for about four issues?
>>107589280When I refer to the west, I don't include French cartoons because they're unique in that they share similar eastern values in regards to women and traditional beauty.That said, just because you can find one or two exceptions to a rule, doesn't mean the rule is invalidated. Western media butchering magical girls is still a common occurrence.
>>107593831Yeah, but I don't recall any critical reception for it.
>>107584653>Out of all the great things about that album she has to resort to fucking sales to prove it's worth>Implying anyone would even have a negative opinion on Lauryn Hilldisgusting, she's just an artist you either like or don't care about. As someone who would probably tell people their choice of music, comics or books is disgusting out of nowhere when I was younger, Lauryn Hill just isn't someone anyone hates enough to do this.
>>107593884I remember people making fun of the main character being a carbon copy of that "character by Tumblr" parody image..
>>107593962Ah, what I meant is, I don't remember seeing any critic made a review about it. Just a lot of radio silence in general. I feel bad for matt, He makes good vidya fan art back in the day but I think he is too slow for comics. I wonder what he's up to now.
>>107586266>Saying "they take characters that don't belong to them" is a fucking joke.Characters like Superman and Batman were created by individuals that had a specific goal in mind and specific stories to tell. A zoomer college grad with a chip on his shoulder about race and the number of genders in his emotional encyclopedia, does not have the right to come in and warp established characters in order to turn them into a megaphone for his alternative world views. That's not how you show respect for characters that have existed for longer than you've been alive. It shows a blatant disrespect not only for the character and what they stand for, but it also shows a disrespect for the people who DO have respect for the character, and have been loyal patrons to the publisher for years.>sports analogyI have to say, outside of food analogies, sports analogies are one of the biggest false equivalence arguments out there. Yours in particular is especially egregious. What does the nationality of a sports player have to do with the assassination of a fictional character?
>>107593884The general reception I got, going by here anyways, was it was just bland. Unbelievably bland. Like, at least with a comic like America Chavez, you can rip on it for the shitty art, shitty plot, shitty dialogue, etc.
>>107585645Holy shit, I remember that.
>>107585634>zodiac starforcei remember this book did it ever go anywhere after the first volume?
>>107594107They started another comic call "another castle". A lot of these creators really love the princess in the castle trope.
>>107587742yes and so is amethyst of gemworld and to a lesser extent jem & the holograms.
>>107583232It's time /co/Fuck/marry/kill
>>107583232let me guess you have never in your life voted for a conservative politician and hate trump right?
>>107594107>i remember this book did it ever go anywhere after the first volume?Yeah, into a second volume. https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/31-297/Zodiac-Starforce-Volume-2-Cries-of-the-Fire-Prince-TPB
>>107594140>another castlethat was them? i remember someone storytiming that here and i couldn't get past the first issue. did it even get another issue?>A lot of these creators really love the princess in the castle trope.probably because most of them grew up on disney movies & sailor moon.
>>107593884What was it even supposed to be about?
>>107584653The guy's a dick, but the girl's an even bigger one, especially given that she works there.There's a lot of dickhead protagonists that I like, but I at least like to see it acknowledged that they're pricks, or at least get given the impression that the author knows that
>>107586772>you'd have to be deeply retarded to believe a gnome sherlock effectively replaces the classic one. Each different version is just that: a different version. You're talking about adaptations, but what about comic book characters that exist in a serial format? Publishers like Marvel want readers to think that the last 70 years all occur within a span of 10 years. All the characters we read are the same characters now that they were back then. So when Clint Barton goes from a hardass with a short temper that takes no bullshit, to a current year, soft-spined, weak-willed Millennial "safe" male who stands aside for marginalized people, we're supposed to just accept that as the status quo?>The classic version will always come back again and again In my experience, not always. We had New52 Superman return to his more soft-edged red panties status quo, but Thor, after graciously being gifted his name back by the righteous Jane Foster, is still a shadow of his former self. Hank Pym started out as Ant-Man, but he's doomed to jump from identity to identity forever, because Marvel doesn't know what to do with him.
>>107594305Ahhh, good question.I think they all got superpowers and they form a group to do crime fighting, I think.
>>107585099>>107585531I'm in this weird in-between stage. SJW books often have really good premises and ideas, but are held back by bad writing and Tumblr pandering. Moonstruck had a great premise (a city of monsters and some evil fox magician) , but failed on its art, most of its characters, and the execution of its story. Then you have anti-SJW books, which are fine (not great, but passable and, on the rare occasion, good.) But they always have the lamest premises and I just don't even bother most of the time. I don't want to read some generic '90's rag. I just don't care.
>>107585771I think they forget that unless the focus is on batshit insane magical girl adventures (Like in Princess Tutu), the magical girl aesthetic is only supposed to be dressing for a deeper story (Like in Madoka Magica) or some sort of theme (Kill la Kill).They just want cute girls doing things, though, so their stories never have soul.
>>107594444>Moonstruck had a great premise, but failed on its artYeah like they had that one idea of a shapeshifter with identity issues in a society with out stance on transsexuals that was an interesting idea acknowledged but glossed over for some reason
>>107594618>a society with OUR stance on
>>107594583>They just want cute girls doing thingsThere is a whole anime industry making that anon, though magic is barely a thing in those.
>>107593730OP here.From what I can remember about what I read, the abduction plot resolves itself, with no real input from the main cast. No actual crime fighting takes place.The lead chick and her job is inspired by the authors experience working at a record store in the summer. As is her sexuality. She’s invited to the secret group because everyone in the cast likes her and because she’s so naturally talented at telling off mean boys.And to counter your point, I’m of the opinion that Rey from Nu-Wars isn’t a Mary Sue
>>107584653why does she resorts to violence over nothing?
>>107594215You’re half correct
>>107586640It was suggested to me by a neckbeard's neckbeard. never gonna get laid guys like this kind of shit.
>>107585969There is lewds of this at all?
>>107594583>They just want cute girls doing things, thoughSally the WitchMinki MomoMajokko Megu-chanHimitsu no Akko-chan Lalabel the Magical GirlLun Lun the Flower ChildCreamy Mami
>>107595080Rule 34 has led me to believe it should
>>107593730>i thought that was at least a basic, early-group-forming sort of plotThat can work if this had been published serially (say, in specialised magazines Asian countries have) over a long period of time; but even then stories like these really have to have some sort of strong, kicking factor in the beginning - an event or incident that yells "you're gonna love the adventures we have in store" - for publishers to be convinced that they can keep them running for months on.Alas, this looks like a one-shot run - which makes the fail at drawing attention look even much worse. The build-up feels so hollow, especially in how much little potential was fleshed out off the sold premise (see >>107583326)...and that leads to a climax so bleh/boring that no one would give a shit if the story somehow continues since the early (and only) investment is just not worth it.
>>107595100I get it, the difference here is these all had some sort of story to go off of at least, like Mami had idols and Megu had a fish-out-of-water tale.
>>107587742Yes and Ladybug sucks, Lolirock is decent tho
>>107595100>No Magical Emi
>>107595192Sorry I was going off the top of my head
>>107584653>someone has an unfavorable opinion>DUDE, GET OUT OF OUR STOREUhhh
>>107593840Hate to break it to you, but you'd probably find most Japanese magical girl series to be butchering magical girls. The American perception of magical girls was pretty much warped forever by Sailor Moon, which is not indicative of the genre as a whole.
>>107595400>butchering magical girlsYou mean the edgy shit that came after Madoka or the pre-Madoka era that had fucked up shit here and there?
>>107593730The dialogue is atrocious. If it were just pictures the comic would improve significantly, the shell of the plot is ok but the dialogue and characterization are comic-ruining.
>>107595400But the new Precure is alright
>>107594035So ny this logic Schwartz and Binder warped Superman from a working class character into a jingoist mouthpiece right?
>>107591622It was readable but I lost interest after the artist switch
>>107595511They did, the fuck is your point? Just because its something that has already happened doesn't mean the people calling for it to stop are wrong or stupid.
>>107595499I think he means late night anime aimed at otaku.Precure has a big adult male audience but it is aimed at little girls.
>>107595499I still hate that Precure is the only current mahou shoujou that doesn't try to be Madoka, and I say this as a Precurefag Fresh best season
>>107595557So Superman should lose half hisnpowers and go back to beating up slumpords and wife beaters? Is that your point here?
>>107594988Yeah, the truth of the matter is that it's basically a really shitty version of Empire Records.
>>107595567Many people say that some comics want to be the new Watchmen. I guess many anime want to be the new Madoka too.But to be honest i don't get why.
>>107595638Edgy mahou shoujou isn't something that Madoka made, but it become one of the most popular shows, I'm not really a fan neither but I don't hate it myself, what I hate is every bootleg after it
>>107595577I'm another guy but definitely, yeah. He should also give the comeupance to exploitative bosses and executives.
>>107585971I'd read that
>>107595677This book is shit
>>107595659I know Madoka is not the first, it just became super popular while doing it.I didn't care for Madoka and the episode 10 twist just made me dislike Homura.That being said it can stand on it's own, most copies are low quiality and try to sell with a shock factor that doesn't work anymore.
Comic book reviews are an absolute joke.It is literally better to ignore them, as they offer nothing of value.
>>107594444>Moonstruck had a great premise (a city of monsters and some evil fox magician)Honestly the city of monsters is not even that creative or original of a premise. It's been done everywhere from east to west in movies to manga.
>>107595721Wasn't Madoka originally viewed as pretentious lolibait
>>107591622It sucked from the beggining.
>>107596264I wouldn't know. I wasn't on /a/
>>107583597That is an awful AWFUL title.
>>107594162Kill them all.
>>107594305It was something stupid but I think the fat bitch had magical girls powers and one of them had a gun.
>>107596539This. And also pic related.
>>107597317Is the inside art as good as the cover?
>>107597404yes. the art is very good, its a japanese manga ka and the author is from a very well off family to afford her
>>107593840>because they're unique in that they share similar eastern values in regards to women and traditional beauty.
>>107597868Dumb jojo poster
>>107583447yeah most of those are pretty bad. even steven universe is kind of a guilty pleasure type thing for me
>>107595813At least from experience as a webcomic creator; most comic reviewers review things on the basis of hoping the creators will link the review and get hits to their pages so of course they're not going to give anything a bad review.I used to comment on a podcast that had a review column on their webpage and they'd review their readers' comics if they found one. It was almost embarrassing how hard the guy had to choose his words to over look the fact my comic is purely fetish. I'd take the opinions of anons more seriously than that shit.
>>107594079Good, then it wasn't a fever dream.
>>107594444that's pretty much how i feel.for an "SJW book" if the art looks decent enough and the premise doesn't sound too pretentious i'll usually give it a chance.but for an "anti-SJW book" it has to be more than what amounts to "a shitty 90s comic because that's what the writer grew up with" to get me interested.