I'm not sure if any of you care, but Prequel updated.
Sweet. Thanks, Anon.
>>107036201>skyrim fancomickind of sad when you think about it
>>107036259>skyrimEither a masterful bait or underaged b&
>>107036201man I don't even remember where I dropped itI think she was trapped in a burning church or something
>>107036286But that part and the one after it before she snuck into the Guild were legitimately the best part of the whole webcomic. I suggest you do pick it up again.
>that whole lewd fire elemental skit
>>107036336I really like the fire elementalI'm sad she's probably never going to show up againOnce Katia chills out a bit they'd really get along, even outside of active sluttery
>>107036201That... was a bit of a waste of time.
Focus on the cat's vagina.
>>107036512Well what do you expect? It only took 3 and a half months to come out, with a blistering pace like that they can't all be epics.
>>107036201Why are neither of these girls wearing pantsAnd why would they let a fire elemental near so many books
>>107036512It was shorter than the previous update, yet it took longer to come out.Can't wait for Kazerad to swing by and juggle up the excuses and/or apologies.
>>107036549The cat was worried they would be stolen (again), and the fire elemental thought it was a party, do to being summoned next to the cat another naked woman that tore her clothes of in a magically enhanced charisma duel.
So what does the fire elementals sign language translate to.
>>107036282This isn't wrong though. I feel the same way about kids today, time flies by so Quickly. I can't believe I agreed with Stonetoss.
>>107036488>>107036336Can't believe I haven't seen porn of it yet.
>>107036832Huh. Fair enough.Hope they recover quick and well.
>>107036832Did he try cooking again?
>>107036832Then maybe he should just do it himself instead of constantly outsourcing everything. That's always been his goddamn problem. He thinks he needs the comic to use fancier techniques that he can't do, but the damn comic got popular back when it looked like shit.So go back to looking like shit so we can get some fucking updates.
I stopped caring during the long hiatus. I was sure I would want to read it when it returned but turns out I'd lost all interest.
>>107036792Is that all you freaks care about? Porn?Get a life.
>>107037271What else is there to care about in Prequel?
>>107037290I mean in general. All anyone cares about on this shithole of a website is the pornification of literally anything and everything.
>>107036832Same happened to me this week, can relate
>>107037309I just commented that I hadn't seen porn of the character since there's literally has been porn of every Prequel character since the comics started.>pornification of literally anything and everything.It's called rule 34 and people here have been horndogs since long before Prequel.
This shit is still going on?I remember being in the first threads back in 2010-11
>>107036832This is like the third damn time kazerad, stop befriending heavily unstable/unhealthy/unlucky people. Fucking hire someone nice and boring.
>>107036201Wow, it's only been three months this time around!
>>107036201>the daedra put back her clothes onDamn you Kaz, those lack of naughty bits really got me going.
>>107036201>Still wearing clothes. Meh.
>>107037290How many frames is this?Also is the aliasing intentionally drawn like that or is it pieced together using the curve tool? Which I mean, is still intentional, but isn't the same as per-pixel drawing the lines.
>>107037329>gif>single frameGod dammit. She could at least have been drooling or flipping a page or something.
>>107038067Hate to break it to you pal, but every single panel in prequel is a .gif. Even the still ones.
>>107036832What if Kaz announced a full blown video game?
>>107038091He would put Star Citizen to shame
>>107036555>Can't wait for Kazerad to swing by and juggle up the excuses and/or apologies.Don't worry, I'm being proactive about it. >>107036846 I have the hatmster now.
>>107038798last fucking chance kaz
>>107038798what happens if there are no more hats to take away from the hatmster
>>107038873He'll ineffectually whine about how sad hatmster is while updates still don't happen. Then devolve to the point more effort is being put in to hatmster updates than anything else.
>>107038091I'd love to play it when it comes out in 10 years.
>>107038846Lots of webcomics are still going from years back, this one isn't special in that regard. Although the long hiatus (almost 2 years) may have made a few people think it was dead for good.
>>107038988Should have stayed dead. Reviving it after two years only to stall again with nothing but lame excuses is just fucking sad.
>>107036201We dont care about poorly written furshit unless its a currently airing cartoon
>>107038846I'm gonna play that tummy like a pair of bongos and then eat her out like I'm a malnourished african child
>>107039082But anon, because prequel continued, it allowed US to talk to each other in this wonder way. And everyone else in this thread can see it
>>107036201Hell yes. Just caught up on this a few months ago and damn is it good. Are the updates always this far apart though?
>>107039155>Are the updates always this far apart though?>he doesn't knowI-I'm so sorry anonI wish I could have protected you from this
>>107037954It's an intentional effect, so that even when the pic is detailed it looks like it was done in MSPaint.
and this one is for the mini-hiatuses of just 2/3 months
>>107036832wait a goddamn minute since when does prequel have a twitter
>>107039286>>107039316I mean, with this kind of quality I'd understand weeks or a month or so betwe->691 daysShit.Fucking hell I don't need this again.
>>107039369To be fair the 2 year hiatus was an exception leading to a flash game (the one with the sword-dog which hilariously died of old age in the time it took for kaz to finish the flash! Rip doggo. due to him outsourcing his background and stuff to other people that ended up having problems, basically a copy-paste of this update's problems.Other delays include:>cooking>shipping (without knowing how to ship large quantities of items)>drunken streams>laziness>deaths of loved ones, friends and relatives>all of the above
>>107038798Lets be reasonable, Kazerad. This update definitely feels like you could put it together in a week or less, this warranting a weekly instead of once-every-2.5-monthly schedule.
>>107039414>deaths of loved ones, friends and relativeshow many times has that happened? I only remember the time Kaz's grandma died
>>107039456I only remember this as well.
>>107039465Oh, and may she rest in peace and God rest her soul.
>>107039414So is the author just human Katia?
>>107039456Life after 25 for probably the next decade is one of non-stop weddings, baby showers, and funerals. It feels like past this point everyone in your life between your parents's age or grandparents's age just start to dying. And everyone around your age is getting married or having kids. Every year there's a pile of weddings and having to fly home for a funeral. You spend every vacation day doing one of those things. One year I saw my friends three times for funerals and we just didn't bother going camping that year because we were all caught up.I'm not excusing Kaz for anything but when you're a kid nobody mentions to you if someone dies unless they're really important and realistically it's not common for anybody you know as a kid to die. Once you grow the fuck up and with Facebook and shit all you see is people you know dropping dead everywhere from ass cancer or heart failure.
>>107039414Did cider finally kick the bucket? What slowed this particular update so much?How many people do you have helping you? Why the fuck do you keep getting "slowed down"?
>>107039676I'm not kaz, anon.
>>107039691Yes, I'm retarded and was reading multiple posts but only replied to one.
>>107039777Be the change you want to see tripanon
>>107039777>katia fighting in the civil warpretty cool
>>107039895Oh Talos the sheer amount of failure and fuckery she’d cause. I can’t even really imagine which side would win in the end with her in the picture.
>>107039953Mutually Assured Destruction
>>107038798A month? And two hats? You're just giving yourself a ton of leeway, Kazerad.
How long until Rick self-inserts himself into fucking the hatmster?
>>10703879t>I have the hatmster nowbetter motivator: 1 week without an update = 3 months without alcohol of any kind
>>107041140I went for exactly six months forgetting he existed, and then you come here just to be a dick and remind me that he does?Fucking scumbag.
>>107041140If the hatmster runs out of hats, will it die?
>>107041237It would be extremely painful.
>>107041237it's a big rodent
Baneposting? In this thread? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
>>107038091>I, Kazered am proud to announce my new upcoming video game: Half Life 3
>>107041491It's not okay if it's furry, but it's okay if it isn't.In my opinion, neither of them should be okay. Horny degenerates belong in /aco/.
>>107041491Katia is too furry for /co/ mods.
>>107041491>random>implyingThe only one that got nuked is the one that had tit bounce and cleavage. I'm sure that was just a coincidence.
>>107041599It was too unrealistic. Real tits don't bounce. They telescope.
all night laundry has updated every day for six yearsprequel updates every other month maybe sometimesa hamster wearing a hat isn't going to do anything
>>107042890I’ve given that webcomic a gander. You’re right, the dumb hatmster shit isn’t doing anything.
>>107043450>he thinks anyone from the staff actually reads /qa/Making it listed was probably one of the most retarded things mook has done. It's literally nothing but shitposting now.
Still giving Kaz money and attention he doesn't deserve?This stories been going for like 6 years and Katia's still in Kvatch. What a waste of time to read.
>>107043996At least she hasn't boarded a boat.
>>107043450what, is he gonna show up at Kaz's door with a daikon radish and a jar of Vegemite?
I missed OG green-Katia
>>107044651>daikon radish and a jar of VegemiteThat's... oddly specific. Am I missing a maymay here? I rarely shitpost in prequel threads.
>>107044682There are only two places in which Prequel gets discussed outside of its comments page; this board, and /trash/. The most it'll get in any other place is a brief mention, and very little people would care or know what it is.So, yes, I estimate that it is a /trash/ shitpost.
>>107044803>/trash/ actually discussing prequelPretty sure its just 10 anons posting the same pictures over and over again while spouting out how they wanna fug the cat.
>>107044957I know, I'm using the term rather loosely. What a fitting name for a board, though.
>>107038798Don't listen to these fucks, you try the rodent system.
>>107045164a year later kazerad has a higher hamster mortality rate than Hampture.
>>107036201These 4chan notices are basically the only reason I remember to check up on it.
I love Katia
>>107036201Update didn't appear on my RSS feed for some reason. Weird.
>>107046353No matter what I do, it never notifies me.
>>107041555Why do they even bother posting here when they can make the exact same but uncensored threads there? I said /aco/ wasn't going to accomplish absolutely anything when it was discussed and big surprise, it had no impact on this board whatsoever.
>>107046353>>107046434It just now showed up for me.
>>107041140When does the hamster get the maggot treatment?
>>107036201literally forgot it existed thanks though
>>107036792this but I'm also upset
>>107038320is it.. not?
>>107038798Kaz, your update has 13 panels, 4 of which are minor edits. You should be able to do that in a week, easily, and without outsourcing the backgrounds. You are the laziest motherfucker who has ever lived.
>>107048819It's set in cyrodiil, just before the events of oblivion. This is because PREQUEL IS 8 MONTHS OLDER THAN SKYRIM. AND WE'RE STILL IN FUCKING KVATCH.
There is nothing worse in life than a good webcomic that grinds to a fucking snail pace over the years, you don't get a chance to get over it or mourn it, because you know in a year or so you'll experience it again, and again, like a sick fever, or an endless headache.Fuck you Kaz.
>>107048928If it wasn't for skyrim massive popularity prequel wouldn't have 1/10 of its current fandom.
>>107041140Isn't that like, 2 hats? It's needs more hats to inflict more pain so we can at least count off how many hats are left.
>>107049573The prequel fandom was started by homestuckers and maintained by perverts, no TES game had anything to do with it. Regardless, my point was to shit on Kaz, not Skyrim.
>>107041140>kaz updates one time on time>has three hats to play with, feels good about it>updates late>"whoops, that sucks. well, at least i have two more hats">updates late>"well it was fine last time. still have a hat. might as well make this a good update since i'm already late">three months later the update posts>by this point he's completely forgotten about the hamster>"haha sorry guys I was waiting for <insert random person who doesn't actually exist> to finish <thing that can be done in ten minutes>">ask him about the hamster>no reply
>>107049573Half the people who took interest in Prequel didn’t even know it had anything to do with TES.Like the other anon said, it was supported by Homestuck fans at first, and furries kept it rolling at the speed of pouring molasses later.
>>107049958>>107051114Do keep in mind though that it did receive a TES signal boost - Bethesda's official twitter account made a post about it
>>107051194Not like it made any difference. Kazerad with two thousand fans is still as unproductive as a Kazerad with just a thousand.
>>107044957That almost describes every /trash/ thread just replace cat with whatever the subject is.
>>107042890ANL is also approaching an ending. Prequel, meanwhile, still feels like the first act of a three-act structured plot. Still nothing compares to the massive wad of fuckall that granddaddy Homestuck became.
>>107046353it did work fine on mine perfectly in timecheck the refresh rate, maybe you set it at something weird like multiple hours or once a day, those are perfectly fine for news feeds>>107044957every now and then they try to up themselves in homw to gross each other out even further, but that's about it
>>107036259>work at game store>customers asks if they're making Skyrim 2
>>107038798If you give us the uncensored sprite of naked Sigrid as a token of goodwill, we may be inclined t actually believe you.
>>107051693HOMW? What’s that?
>>107036201I stopped reading around 2012. How much did I miss?
>>107051789Quite a lot. Most of what you missed happened between when you dropped a mid-late 2015, absolutely nothing until late 2017, and then it’s at a snail’s pace from then to now.
>>107051846>when you dropped and* mid-late 2015
>>107036832Judging by /weg/ and this post it is clear that being an artist on a project with a schedule is the most dangerous occupation in the world. Everyone gets debilitating diseases several times a year. Risk of having family tragedy also seems 50 times higher than that of people doing other jobs. I wonder what's the cause of this phenomena?It's compulsive lying bordering on pathological Munchausen syndrome and anyone who believes these fuckers is a complete retard
>>107052152You aren't wrong but consider these are internet artists and they seldom need to lie about hurting themselves or ruining everything because they are just that much of a fuck up. They will end up homeless or in jail if left unattended.
but why rope yourself into an obligation and then play sick. at least play sick on your own time
>>107052152>Judging by /weg/ and this post it is clear that being an artist on a project with a schedule is the most dangerous occupation in the world. Everyone gets debilitating diseases several times a year. Risk of having family tragedy also seems 50 times higher than that of people doing other jobs. I wonder what's the cause of this phenomena?You're drawing the wrong conclusion.In most cases it's probably poor health from either a sedentary lifestyle or drug abuse, plus mental illness - all of which tend to run in families. I know a lot of artists suffer health problems related to obesity, many more have depressive disorders that weigh heavily on them and their loved ones, I and a lot of the people I collaborate with are kinda heavy drinkers, and whenever I work with a straightedge mormon like Makkon he gets everything done in like a day.
>>107052152Don't forget the constantly exploding computers.
I never get the chance to post this
>>107042890>all night laundry has updated every day for six yearsAnd yet I lost interest crawling through the archives
>>107053158Fucking Drug Coffin gets me every time.
>>107052870Don’t understand how he has receding hairline on only one side of his head
>>107053158TESO is a better game than Blades
>>107052878Could you maybe substitute the drink for updates? Like let the compulsion to update be your lethal vice. Sure, it would still kill you in the end and you'd proably be miserable but it's a price I'm willing to pay. And I bet I'm not the only one.
>>107053850minesweeper is a better game than Blades
>>107051745They're right you know. Next ES game will be using the same engine and majority of the same resources. The only differrnce will be that this time the radiant quests will be even worse, more repetitive and in places that are evwn more random. And the main quest will be about doing 300 of them.
>>107038798love u regardless
>>107054113You’re literally being as paranoid as the Morrowind fans who said that they fear Skyrim would be Oblivion 2, and the Daggerfall fans who feared Oblivion would be Morrowind 2.Grow up and get a life.
>>107054292It was a joke. I'm willing to bet it will be a soulless radiantfest but the rest is pretty obviously exegarrated. Get a sense of humor.
>>107054340What's the point if you'll never see the result?
>>107054310If being a paranoid frothing nerd is what passes as a sense of humor around here, then pass, I want none of that disease.
>>107054397You sound like a tremendous faggot
>>107054397Making fun of company for creating consistently worse quality products in a predictable way is frothing. Did you get a lobotomy or are you just natually so passive you can't accept any negativity in any context?
>>107054560It sounds more like anon has the constitution of a dandelion and any negativity is an attack for him.
>>107054375Are you calling kaz a liar?
>>107054510My bad. You’re not just a paranoid frothing nerd who has nothing better to do than complain about videogames, you also have an infantile disorder.>>107054560You’re not making fun of any company, you’re just being a nagging manchild.Get out of the basement and get a job. You’ll learn that you were so fucking stupid for being this angry at inconsequential things all these years.
>>107054620Now Todd, we talked about this...
>>107036259I was born in 1999 and I know better than this, you have no excuse anon
>>107054751>I was born in 1999Underage detec-wait.
>>1070548301999 was 25 years ago. Feeling old yet?
>>107054620>You’ll learn that you were so fucking stupid for being this angry at inconsequential things all these years.He says this, talking about furry webcomics in 4chan
>Prequel thread>still not nuked after 1 dayLasting way more than Gumball threads. Good for you.
>>107054843Little off there pal.
>>1070551462008 was 40 years ago
>>107052878Why are you "working with" anyone on non-flash updates? Just draw it yourself, you lazy fuck.
>>107054292I wish skyrim was oblivion 2
>>107036259I swear, underage n'wahs these days.>>107054113>Next ES game will be using the same engine and majority of the same resources.0/10, do your damn research before trolling. All TES games after Daggerfall and all Bethesda Fallout games have used the same engine. The assets are the only thing that's changed in fourteen years.
>>107055678Oblivion implemented a lot of physics shit that wasn't in the morrowind version of the engine. It also mostly poorly implemented a bunch of new AI features that fallout 3 and skyrim, rather than fixing, just never use at all.
>>107055470Skyrim was, for the most part, better than Oblivion. The gameplay was far less ass and repetitive, even if it was still shit. Better lore, too.
>>107055925Two thirds of the quests skyrim are to clear out a dungeon of bandits, draugr, or falmer. It is one of the most repetitive games ever fucking made. Its only improvements over oblivion were graphical and a couple of neat ideas like getting your enchanting effects from destroying enchanted gear and learning effects from alchemy by trying shit or eating the ingredients rather than having the effects bd a simple function of your skill stat. That wasn't worth losing quest variety or the entire attribute system.
>>107056024Skyrm had far more ambitious quests than Oblivion (the actual sidequests, not the radiant tasks). What it lost out in was handcrafted dungeons.
>>107056122No it didn't. The quests were shorter and had less dialogue.
>>107056024>Two thirds of the quests skyrim are to clear out a dungeon of bandits, draugr, or falmer. It is one of the most repetitive games ever fucking made.Compared to... Oblivion gates, necromancer caves, goblin caves, bandit cave. Oblivion has three types of extremely similar dungeon: fort, ayleid ruin and cave. Most of Oblivion quests arent the funny whimsical NPC romp, most of them are still generic fetch quests, and since you don't even fucking progress, since every enemy scales and fighting them is exactly the same start to finish, it's extremely more frustrating to spend even an hour trying to get anything done. Everyone who looks back at Oblivion fondly talks about the parts of the game you don't need to fight or use any of your skills, because nobody actually liked playing through Oblivion, they only liked to stare at the glossy landscape and make fun of the NPCs.At least in Skyrim you were actually OP by the time you got to the end. At least the game was interesting enough without the babysitting Sean Bean gimmick.
>>107056305>The quests were shorter and had less dialogue.Oblivion had 30,000 lines of dialogue, Skryim had 60,000. But that doesn't matter, what matters is scripting. Just about all of Oblivion's quests were extremely basic.
>>107037271The hell is wrong with you
>>107054113Unless you pay for a premium plucky quests plus packet! 5 brand new quests with at least 1 rare or better per roll. you know it's comeing, it's the only thing left to put knot them. Todd shall consume all
>>107054397Then leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeave Good god what is the matter with you faggots.
>>107056437Oblivion had twice the enemy and dungeon variety and a flat difficulty curve is better than a fucking downward sloping one (obviously both are worse than a proper difficulty curve like New Vegas). Skyrim's level scaling is even worse than oblivion's, because even random trash is level scaled, even if unique items aren't. Oblivion's health bloat gets pretty severe if you play past level 30 or so but why the fuck would you do that?>Oblivion had 30,000 lines of dialogue, Skryim had 60,000.True, but this went to shit like making sure the guards have 100 different ways to address you, not to enhance the quests. Also Skyrim's writing was generally worse, even if the voice acting was better.>Just about all of Oblivion's quests were extremely basic.They were more complex than Skyrim's on average.
>>107056889>even if the voice acting was better.you know the story behind why that's the case?
>>107056935It's not a secret that almost all of Oblivion's voice acting budget was blown on Sean Bean and Patrick Fucking Stewart, forcing all of the hundreds of characters not named Septim to be voiced by random staff members and D-list VAs
>>107056889>Oblivion had twice the enemy and dungeon variety and a flat difficulty curve is better than a fucking downward sloping one (obviously both are worse than a proper difficulty curve like New Vegas). Except Skyrim still keeps specific enemy types and abilities saved up for late game, Dwemer constructs are a different kind of challenge than Draugr or Dragons while every top level enemy in Oblivion is a fucking wizard or Dremora.>Skyrim's level scaling is even worse than oblivion's, because even random trash is level scaled, even if unique items aren't. Oblivion's health bloat gets pretty severe if you play past level 30 or so but why the fuck would you do that?Because a lot of content is fucking level locked. Did you know Oblivion has Minotaurs and Unicorns? Most people never even see most enemies because levelling up makes everything worse. Skyrim has better designed spaens all around, especially since the game is designed to keep the harder dungeons geographically separate like it's supposed to.>Also Skyrim's writing was generally worse, even if the voice acting was better.Oh, you mean compared to the game that had you pretend you're stopping a world ending invasion but had you travel around the map without any non-scripted daedra encounter? The game where you can do odd jobs for potato people at any time and there is no sense of urgency to anything?
>>107057232>Skyrim still keeps specific enemy types and abilities saved up for late gameSo did oblivion. Mountain lions, ogres, daedroths, stuff like that>Dwemer constructs are a different kind of challenge than DraugrNo they aren't, other than the exploding spiders, which you should kill from range>or DragonsDragons are fucking annoying to fight and not really a threat to the player other than the fact that they can and will decide to ignore you and kill NPCs instead. Dragonrend, which you get less than halfway through the main quest, makes them pathetically easy.>Because a lot of content is fucking level locked.No it's fucking not. There's not a single challenge you can't overcome at level 1. Even Alduin is only level 10 if you refuse to level up yourself.>keep the harder dungeons geographically separateThere are no harder dungeons, only longer ones. This was also true of oblivion, of course.>Oh, you mean compared to the game that had you pretend you're stopping a world ending invasion but had you travel around the map without any non-scripted daedra encounter?Did you even play oblivion? After kvatch and before ending the main quest, optional oblivion gates popped up outside every town, and random ones would appear as you explored, growing more frequent as you progressed. Of course, there were only 8 or 9 oblivion gate layouts, so that was kind of shit, but at least they were pretty damn big. >The game where you can do odd jobs for potato people at any time and there is no sense of urgency to anything?Skyrim has way less urgency because dragons are non threats and the main quest establishes early on that the primary antagonist of the gsme is just straight up not a threat to the main character.
>>107057069Not that - they were given their lines in alphabetical order. Not by quest or in chronological order. They just had a massive list, unsorted, with zero context.
>>107057953I believe it for the random chit chat but not for the quests, at least not all of them. Characters still sound like the same character when they aren't delivering a generic line.
The average Prequel thread survives this long by being borderline off-topic, all simply because there’s simply little to no meat in each pitiful update Kazerad puts out once every 2.5 months.
>>107058037Ah shit, didn't specify by character. My bad. Yeah it was sorted by character - they just had no context.
>>107058370I'm still not sure I believe you. The delivery was amateur and corny, but lines generally flowed into eachother well enough. Except for the procedural conversations, of course. I'd believe that dialogue trees were presented alphabetically.
I'm a little busy at the moment so I cant get you the exact time stamphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3193ZsxChSc
>>107058504The exact time stamp for what?
>>107036201I want to protect this slutcat's smile.
>>107058678He means the alphabetical line thing. Turns out it's like the first thing he says. It's still not quite as bad as I originally thought because the lines were divided by character, so it wasn't hard to figure out how a line should have been said, but it would still be annoying to actually perform.
>>107058689She’d smile at you awkwardly as you stutter your confession to her, you mutt.
>>107054830people who were born after 9/11 are going to be able to post here in half a year
>>107059512They already post here, you braindead weeb.
>>107059512People who don't remember 9/11 can already post here, I'm not sure why being born after 9/11 matters.
>>107036259idgiIsn't this set in Skyrim and made because of it? So yeah, it's a skyrim comic.
>>107059587I wanna lick them
>>107053158>I never get the chance to post thisThank the Lord for that. That was unfunny as fuck.
>>107058740The fuck are you on about?
>>107059897that could be quite painful anon
>>107060091That's just part of the fun
>>107054620>you also have an infantile disorderYou're the one who thinks everyone he talks to is the same person and gets triggered by the most common way people make fun of beteshda to the point where you feel the need to insult everyone because you're too dumb to get the joke that gets memed constantly any time they are mentioned.>>107055678>All TES games after Daggerfall and all Bethesda Fallout games have used the same engine.Yes, that's why it's a common joke. Because it's very likely to be true despite how pathetically low effort it is. Because it already happened many times. A good joke is grounded in reality not pulled out of your ass.
>>107059922This post >>107058504Was a reply to this post>>107058450
notice how there's a loophole in the hatmster ruleif he takes 2 years to update, the hatmster only loses 1 hat>>107051679at least we can take solace in the fact that kazerad will never be able to fuck up prequel to the degree andrew jandrew r. hudrew fucked up his comic
>>107060922Homestuck is the greatest waste of a single person's effort in all of history, but it still is not as dissapointing as paranatural.
woah i didn't know makkon was a mormon. dude's a fucking machine, i don't know how he even does half of what he does.>>107060984not true, homestuck is the greatest waste of multiple people's effort. dude had a devoted music team and art team working for him for free.>>107052152i think it's more likely that fragile types are, by nature, somehow drawn to art. god knows how many mentally ill teens on tumblr pick up art as a hobby....nvm, kaz said it.
>>107060984>but it still is not as dissapointing as paranatural.C'mon man, you're that's a fruit hanging so low it's basically underground.
>>107061061Can mormons even use computers?Isn't it haram?
>>107061377Not as long as it's halal.You're thinking of muslems.
>>107053850ANYTHING is better than fucking Blades. They took an alright mobile skeleton and ruined it by pay-gating absolutely everything and not having enough variation. Unfortunately, that's pretty much mobile games in general.
The worst part about Prequel is the audience participation. It was great until it got popular. Immediately the quality went to shit because it took fucking forever to get out of Kvatch.
>>107056122Oblivion's dungeons weren't hand-crafted, the staff literally made interchangeable pieces for each type of dungeon and ctrl+v'd that shit. It was one of the major criticisms of the game and one of the major selling points of Skyrim was that every single dungeon was hand-crafted.
>>107061830Were they prefabs that they ctrl+c'd together, or just coridoors that were pieced together and then filled by hand? Cause a good chunk of Skyrim's dungeons were the latter.
>>107061830 They still wound up being generic as fuck.
>>107061830Skyrim's dungeons are also plug and play, that said, skyrim's dungeons have a greater selection of pieces. This is at least partially due to the fact that there are less kinds of dungeons in skyrim.>>107061943The latter. The thing that actually makes skyrim's dungeons better than oblivions are bigger rooms, more use of ambient sound and light, and sometimes actual boss fights.
>>107062018>sometimes actual boss fights.I will never forget how you could just leave the boss room and they would stop attacking. That one dungeon with the Fiery Soul Trap, I think?, enchantment, you could literally run in circles around the room flaming the boss at lv1.I honestly haven't played many RPG's outside of the elder scrolls and fallout, do other games have these problems??
>>107061830i've played roguelikes with better dungeons than skyrim's, d e s u
>>107061581>is the audience participation.Is hard to believe that there is people naive enough to think that audience influence the story when Kazerad said several times how Katia will only "follow commands that totally fit what she would do" the story is 100% his and the comments are just for show.At least Hussie was honest about not using the commands anymore.
>>107062088Kaz only lists the suggestions to pad the length and hide how little work he does
>>107062088Yeah, I realized that the Audience has no control over the story when that necromancer died.
>>107062054Sometimes, there's a huge disconnect on how stuff works out in Skyrim vs how it does in say, Dragons Dogma or any of the Souls, because everything in the later is a set piece. In other games you can't leave whenever you want or take time going slowly. You can't flip the whole place upside down stealing everything not bolted down. The environment is accessory to the boss and you simply don't get to screw around much, it's jarring coming off a TES game.>>107062018>This is at least partially due to the fact that there are less kinds of dungeons in skyrim.Oblivion>Ayleid >Cave>Fort>mineSkyrim>Nord tomb>Cave>Dwemer ruin>Imperial fort>mineit's kinda the same really, also Skyrim mixes them together a lot, especially the cave and dwemer ruin.
>>107062360>when that necromancer died....how many years ago was that?
>>1070627676 or 7
>>107062778please release me from this hell.
>>107062799No get out man, this shit is going nowhere and Kaz is going to keep it like that until he either quits or enough people lose interests that he'll have to do something drastic.
>>107062832One cannot simply "get out" of mr kazerad's wild ride, anon.
>>107062360remember how he mentioned that the one guy who said to kill dmitri was "responsible for his death" because "all your commands are important and not to be taken lightly"just say that you wanted to kill him you fucking hack. we can all tell. don't pin the blame on the one poor sod that wanted the railroad to progress the same way you did.
You know, I'm actually surprised this thing still has a a following.After almost a decade of very slow updates and lies, you'd think people would have jumped ship by now.
>>107062890Why did he even do that bit with Dmitri if it was going to be so short and he didn't want it to go anywhere?
>>107063072>so shortDidn't it take like a year
>>107063051You gotta admire their commitment I suppose.
>>107063083yeah, I mean that's like 3,4 updates at best
>>107063083I read it through the archive not while it was updating.
>>107063083It only took about a month, this was while Kaz still knew how to make updates without someone to hold his hand.
>>107062088>Kaz doesn't use suggestionsI mean duh. Katia goes down in the basement, touches a glowing orb without knowing what it does, then spends a year of real life time trapped in a cage until someone suggests - likely at the right time in the plot - for Katia to use the numbers we saw in a gif of a spell book months ago.I guarantee the vast majority of people were not full of ideas on how to get out of a magic trap. It was dumb to get caught in the first place, and obvious we had to wait for Kaz to get around to escaping for us.
>>107063360>then spends a year of real life time trapped in a cageOver a year.You could've robbed a convenience store in 2017, get caught by the police, sentenced to a year in prison, served your entire term, and be released before Katia escaped her cage.Let that sink in.
>>107039676Super late response but Cider is still around. Hes doing a nsfwish comic on twitter thats real cute. Check out @srrizadventurerIt never says anywhere its by Cider but I can identify his great style anywhere.
>>107038798Kazerad I've been reading your comic since High School, I went through college and I'm now a teacher. I sometimes recommend your comic to my students. Thanks for the good times and I hope you get to finish prequel in my lifetime.
>>107063513>spunky kobold MCinto the trash it goesa lizard female is the biggest redflag for a uninspired meme "let me tell you about my totally unique DnD campaign with my discord friends" story.
>>107063599I think shes cute, and thats all that matters
>>107063591Shut the fuck up, Kaz, you lazy waste of air.
>>107063591What good times? What is this reddit shit, Prequel was a little funny at best. What kind of trash ass teacher would recommend it to his students?
>>107063743Probably a theater teacher
>>107063743lmao kids barely read, 16yo that played Skyrim when they were 7 may find a bit of entertainment and end up reading it. Good enough for me.>>107063710 Kaz is a teacher?
>>107063820Alright, maybe you're not Kaz but please stop sucking him off. His ego is already huge.
>>107063652Kobolds just don't do anything for me, and they have this absolutely fucking insufferable personality every time. "Small, retarded and criminally inclined" is what every unimaginative, socially retarded faggot thinks is charming and quirky. I hate Yinglets for the same reason.
>>107063820Seven year olds were playing skyrim? No wonder it has such a shitty fanbase.
>>107063820Kaz is unemployed, I'm jokingly suggesting that anyone who praises kaz is kaz
>>107063884Skyrim is 8 years old, so kids playing it back then are teens now.
>>107061433>you're thinking of muslimseh, "haram" and "halal" are like with "fag", "nigger" or "autist" by now, at least as used here
>>107036832It's only a matter of time until people around him start dying mysteriously.
>>107063907I feel like a lot of people have forgotten Skyrim was 2011.
>>107063907Yes thank you for restating what was said.
>>107063652cutebolds > goblinbolds > toadybolds > ratbolds > boarbolds > dogbolds >>>>>>>>> lizardbolds
>>107064122Not sure what you have in mind for any of those -bold archetypes, nor what you consider Srriz to be
>>107063652katia is cute and look where that got us>>107064434>I don’t remember ever saying this! I thought it was pretty clear I wanted him to die. i'm dead certain you did, desu. something along the lines of "well, careful what you wish for. don't suggest things if you aren't ready for the consequences ;)", but it's gone with MSPAF into the void, so ah well.it's okay though. i, anonymous the magnanimous, forgive youif you won't bring him back into the spotlight as a lich at least bring him back as a cameo summoned skeleton
>>107064434Ego isn't just telling someone they are lesser; you sometimes act in a way that suggests you've already decided your way is best. Responding to critique doesn't count for much when then takeaway is always "yeah but my reasons were legit, so don't worry about it." That, and the hiatus-excuse cycle doesn't ever change. Your commitment to producing what is pretty fairly seen as very little content between very long stretches of delay looks a bit like a smug assumption that your fans can be safely disregarded without hurting your bottom line.
>>107064434>or the Oblivion model where it’s an “arms race”, with you trying to stay ahead of enemies that are balanced as though you are making very optimal decisions.But the only way to keep up with the levelling in Oblivion is to do the most unintuitive things possible, level up the least you can, take the skills you'll use the least in your character build, avoid certain quests and certain items, etc.If the game has to be played "wrong" to get good results then it's a fucking bad game. I see absolutely no situation in which this is a good system, the challenge should ramp up in a way that presents the player with new situations rather than make the tools available to him progressively less useful when doing exactly the same task. If enemies got new abilities, got faster or smarter or at least more numerous while keeping the player lethal as fuck you'd have a point, but gimping them and adding zeros to the health bars is a lazy, shitty, pointless thing. You don't make a game that should take dozens of hours to complete where only the first 5 or so are engaging in any capacity.
>>107036201Thanks for the heads up, gonna read it before I start today's comics.
>>107065088>If the game has to be played "wrong" to get good results then it's a fucking bad game.Luckily it can be easily fixed with oblivion XP
>>107065088Like I said, the implementation could be better, but I think the core idea of having to actually /try/ to train in an optimal way gives more meaning to the leveling system. Like, if the goal of the game’s balance is just to slowly present more of a challenge, then all the stat increments are fundamentally cosmetic - as in, facing a 220 health enemy while having 10 damage is only a tiny bit harder than a 20 health enemy while having 1 damage. You could accomplish the same thing by keeping damage the same and just having the later enemy get 22 health. But when enemies are getting stronger faster than you can get stronger, then you have to metagame the system a bit. You have to make decisions about what is worth doing, and what will get you the most power. I mean, Oblivion fucked it up by making the answer “tag skills you never use”, but I think it would’ve worked a lot better with Skyrim’s character progression, where everything levels you. As is, the standard for open world games is basically that you stop playing them when you get bored. Oblivion ended up with this almost arcade-like structure where you play until it basically becomes impossible to beat enemies, and I think that direction could be built off of to a very good effect. >>107064875I wouldn’t call that egotism so much as failing to meet your expectations. Like, you guys know I’m never going to tell you that you’re /obligated/ to like my comic, or disliking it means you have poor taste. If you can enjoy my work despite the flaws, I appreciate it, but if you can’t, it doesn’t make your opinions less valid. Sometimes this failure to meet expectations is a genuine accident on my part (see: every time something takes longer than expected), but other times it’s just because I want to do something different than you want me to do. I mean, if I followed the desires of everyone who had a problem with the comic, I think it would just be Katia/QW porn. (Cont)
>>107066202(Cont)Remember that I am fundamentally a scientist who accidentally became a comic author. I have ideas about what will make a good story, and I want to see if they work out as well as I think. When I stick to a course of action despite your criticisms, please don’t interpret it as a dismissal - think of it as an opportunity to potentially prove you are right, depending how widely your feelings are shared. I hope that you can use the experience of enjoying/hating my comic to eventually make a better one, and that I can eventually use what I learn from it to do the same.
>>107066202For the sake of a counter-point, I'd mention your reason for this most recent hiatus is not due to experimentation. Yes, you were waiting on resources, but how long is too long to wait? Especially in this case - there's nothing you could not have completed yourself. It's nice to give friends work up until that ~again~ results in needless delay.
>>107066293>When I stick to a course of action despite your criticisms, please don’t interpret it as a dismissal - think of it as an opportunity to potentially prove you are right, depending how widely your feelings are shared.You don't prove that something is right by proving the opposite wrong or by proving that people don't like the current state of affairs. People disliking something doesn't prove that the alternative idea must be better, it just suggests a need for improvement. You need to prove everything right on its own. What kind of a scientist would say something so inherently against basics of research? That said I'm mostly enjoying the comic and you seem to have a solid grasp on where you want to take it. I'm particularly fond of the lore interpretations even if the story itself seems to stumble around a bit.
>>107066293>Remember that I am fundamentally a scientist who accidentally became a comic author.Scientists actually try to learn things from their experiments, so no- you aren't.
>>107066202>>107066293Not sure if you are the real Kaz, but just in case. I ask you to one day make a story with your own worldbuilding, even if is a really short one, I'm really curious to see what something made by you with your own world instead of Elder Scrolls one would look like. It don't even need to see something ambitious could be a pretty simply and average looking universe.
>>107067170I think the factor you are overlooking is that critics are meant to predict the opinions of an audience. Like, the thing that separates a critic from everyone is this idea that they have the opinion others /will/ have. This predictive ability is where critics get their value. For example, moviegoers can turn to a proven movie critic to learn whether they'll like a movie before spending money on it, or a filmmaker can turn to a critic to know whether a script will work before it's even been made. But this also means that critics can be wrong. Sometimes they will claim things are terrible ideas or will be remembered as the worst part of something, only for those to predictions to not pan out at all. While I would never advocate /silencing/ critics, I think it's important to sometimes go against criticism so that the critics - and those who disagree with their assertions - can have an opportunity to see whose predictions are more accurate. And that's really the core of science: judging things by the predictive ability they demonstrate. Unless I misunderstood what you were saying, in which case please disregard. >>107066938Well, yeah, that one was just bad decisions on my part. I'm not trying to excuse /everything/ with "I wanted to see what would happen". >>107067975>I ask you to one day make a story with your own worldbuilding, even if is a really short one, I'm really curious to see what something made by you with your own world instead of Elder Scrolls one would look like.I'll probably do it eventually so I can monetize it easier, I'm just a bit apathetic toward it. Like, I don't understand how setting creation gets romanticized the way it does. Everyone here has probably been making up settings since they were children. Once you commit to one, you're basically just writing fanfiction for your own universe anyway. I bet you just wanna see if I make something with 100% animal people.
>>107068311Artists should listen to criticism, but not follow it blindly. People might be right about something needing improvement while being completely wrong on how it should be improved or their opinion on how it should go might be contradicting authors vision. Therefore even if the audiences reaction proves that there are flaws that need to be fixed it can't be used reliably to fix those flaws.
kaz the fact of the matter is no matter what you say all night laundry has objectively updated every day for 6 years while you rarely update more often than once a month without going on a 3-month (or year) hiatus
>>107068311>I don't understand how setting creation gets romanticized the way it does. Everyone here has probably been making up settings since they were children. Once you commit to one, you're basically just writing fanfiction for your own universe anyway.Well for starters you will have full knowledge of this universe what allow you to explore fully without any worry of contradicting the lore, plus you can expand it to better fit your ideas.Worldbuilding is just as if not more interesting that the story itself many times. >I bet you just wanna see if I make something with 100% animal people.If I wanted that I could ask you to make a comic of some isolated village of Elsweyr or Black Marsh. But no, I don't want to see you go full furry.
>>107068396you have my interest... but more importantly, how big are the tits in all night laundry? huge? gigantic?
>>107068385>>107068447Stop fool, the mods will nuke this thread.
>>107068502das it mane
>>107068427>Well for starters you will have full knowledge of this universe what allow you to explore fully without any worry of contradicting the lore, plus you can expand it to better fit your ideas.I dunno, setting exploration is often a kind of negative thing in my eyes. Like, one of my personal pet peeves is stories that start off with a stylized "in the beginning" explanation of how the world and its denizens were created. It's nice when a setting is there, but a lot of creators kind of want to hit you over the head with it. Like I said, I'll probably make some original stuff eventually, but it'll be more of a convenience thing than some triumphant moment of "you've seen me write fanfiction, now prepare to see me at my TRUE POWER with the weighted training gear OFF!". I bet I can get you all to stick around for it though.
>>107068695How can you get most people to stick around when you never fucking update?
>>107068863>>107068695I fucking guess, but honestly, I doubt that Kaz will ever start a new project or evem improve productivity on prequel. He seems perfectly content to milk the popularity of his half stolen IP until the end of time.
>>107068828we're in this trap now. there's no way out.
>>107058689they finally started drawing the bikini as painted on. good detail.
>>107063652If your sole criteria to liking a show or a comic is if the MC is a cute female, then you’re quite honestly a pathetic and soulless idiot..
>>107069267Or the happiest and most content person on the planet.
>>107069299Nope, just pathetic and soulless worm.
>>107068695>filenamekaz how big is your katia reaction images folder
>>107068828>How can you get most people to stick around when you never fucking update?See>>107039286I kid, I personally have been less artistically productive than Kaz in the last decade so I can't hardly judge him. I used to update daily too
>>107068695>I bet I can get you all to stick around for it thoughIf you use a female furry MC, of course you’d make a significant of your “fans” to stick around.Besides, your laziness is your bane. You won’t get around to your personal project for at least five more years.
>>107068311>you're basically just writing fanfiction for your own universe anyway.THATIS CALLEDWRITINGFUCK WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, HOW CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY BE LIKE THIS
>>107066293>Remember that I am fundamentally a scientist who accidentally became a comic authorBitch what
No seriously whatTou're powertripping into m*rbi levels hereDon't fall down that ledge kazDown fall down the stupid ledge
>>107068447Not very. The main character is a very short college student who is frequently mistaken for a teen, preteen, or occasionally a child. Art style varies from chapter to chapter, so character proportions are kind of inconsistent, but busty she ain't.
>>107069448This is advanced delusion
>>107069436>FUCK WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, HOW CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY BE LIKE THIShe's 5'4
I always enjoy Prequel threads where Kaz comes in to troll autists.
>>107069506Anyone who takes interest in a comic or a show solely on their desire to fuck a character deserves to get shot.
>>107069355>kaz how big is your katia reaction images folderIt's my folder of commissions and injokes. They're not all Katias, some are obscure jokes .01% of people will get. >>107069359>I kid, I personally have been less artistically productive than Kaz in the last decade so I can't hardly judge him. I used to update daily tooIs that you, Scotty A? >>107069448>Bitch whatI mean that I don't have much background in art. I studied psychology and was planning to keep going into a doctorate until I started Prequel and realized there was a more entertaining way to surround myself with crazy people.I still have a big formal study planned out that I want to run sometime. >>107069436>THAT>IS CALLED>WRITING>FUCK WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, HOW CAN ANYONE ACTUALLY BE LIKE THISI just mean how it feels! Like, when you haven't started making something, it exists in this malleable space where you can easily flip around major setting ideas as needed, trying to get everything to fit together. But once you commit to a setting and establish its basics, you're working with its framework and history in basically the same way a fanfiction author does. There isn't this huge blast of freedom I think some people expect, it's just sort of the same feelings and process as working in an unoriginal setting.
>>107069584What>>107069620No one has a "background" in art you fuck. Or, looking at it another way, everyone has a background in art. No one has ever given a shit if an artist has "studied" art and it's never had any impact on Wait a minute, fuck whatever I was just saying. You have a big formal study planned? YOU, Kaz, the guy who can't make a sprite comic happen at a pace faster than a glacier melts and who needs a fucking army of helpers to do so, and who can't seem to find people capable of churning out BACKGROUND ART in a span of less than a year, HAS A FUCKING PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDY PLANNED?! DOES THAT ACTUALLY SOUND LIKE SOMETHING YOU'D BE ABLE TO PULL OFF YOUR TRACK RECORD FOR GETTING SHIT DONE SURE DOESN'T SUGGEST IT, FUCK
>>107069634Why don't you just say that you have more fun exploring other people universes than making up your own? That's one of your reasons right? Similar to roleplaying.You love The Elder Scrolls but you don't fell like you will feel this same passion for some random universe you will make up. Is that right?
>>107069782Capslocking won't solve anything, and you replied to the wrong person.
>>107069634Psychology isn't science, also there's no way someone with your work ethic would ever finish a doctorate
>>107062029>half-naked 12 year olds? I'd say that's comic and or cartoon related
>>107069794Every post that insults kaz for refusing to even admit that he's screwed up is a good post
>>107069969It solves nothing. It does nothing. It's just a bunch of angry manchildren yelling at a lazy manchild thinking that'd get him off his ass to do anything.
>>107069634The biggest advantage for you probably wouldn't be the "freedom" of writing your own universe, as much it would be the freedom of monetizing and marketing your own universe.
>>107069782>You have a big formal study planned? YOU, Kaz, the guy who can't make a sprite comic happen at a pace faster than a glacier melts and who needs a fucking army of helpers to do so, and who can't seem to find people capable of churning out BACKGROUND ART in a span of less than a year, HAS A FUCKING PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDY PLANNED?! DOES THAT ACTUALLY SOUND LIKE SOMETHING YOU'D BE ABLE TO PULL OFF YOUR TRACK RECORD FOR GETTING SHIT DONE SURE DOESN'T SUGGEST IT, FUCKIt's a very different kind of work! Spending months and months planning something that is over and done with in a day, then spending months and months writing about it right down my alley! And I think "having a background in art" is definitely a thing. People might appreciate an artist's work the same whether or not she has a formal education in it, but the people with a formal education and higher-tier work experience will tend to have more refined skills and - perhaps just as importantly - more of an interest in doing that sort of work. If you had never bothered to take an art class and only drew every week or so, I would not expect you to have much skill and familiarity with it.But let's be honest: I'd probably still pay you to help me on a time-sensitive project. >>107069790>Why don't you just say that you have more fun exploring other people universes than making up your own? That's one of your reasons right? Similar to roleplaying.>You love The Elder Scrolls but you don't fell like you will feel this same passion for some random universe you will make up. Is that right?It's not that I particularly love working with existing universes, I just don't find it that different from working with original settings. After you build a setting, you're basically just working within its established boundaries the same way you'd be working in a premade one. >>107070253I noted that up above, yeah.Anyway I'm going to bed, someone else argue with the "psych isn't a science" guy please.
>>107070270Stop ignoring us, shithead. Explain why you needed help to draw 13 panels over 2 and a half months.
>>107070220And who crowned you fucking chief of staff here? What business do you have telling people they need to be productive with their time?
now all we gotta do is wait for another month for one page
>>107070448>another monthThe hatmster is already dead anon. You just don't know it yet.
>>107069634>I studied psychologyOh, that explains it.
>>107044223>Comparing Prequel to Berserk>When it's coming out of hiatus soonOof, yikes.
>>107070755>When it's coming out of hiatus soonAnon, I have a 35 year old cousin that has been reading berserk since he was 14 years old
>>107070270>Spending months and months planning something that is over and done with in a day, then spending months and months writing about it right down my alley!You'd lose all interest by the end of the first week and be desperately searching for someone to fob the entire project off on by the end of the first month.
>>107070270Do you actually know lore?
>>107063513>It never says anywhere its by Cider but I can identify his great style anywhere.You know even if it is, if they aren't credited, its likely because they don't want to be.
>>107063513It’s awful. Absolutely god-fucking-awful.
>>107070700pic relatednice digits by the way, off by 7 tho
>>107071785If he's been testing the waters since 2011, you'd think that would be plenty of time
>>107071785When you think about it Hussie and Kazerad really are two sides of the same "poking and prodding your readership for reactions over telling a good story" coin.Man. One of these days I need start getting hooked on comics by artists that actually genuinely unironically 100% care about them.
At least Kaz hasn’t gone the web novel route, r-right?
>>107072003I liked the concept of dragons being eldritch monstrosities but can't help but feel like I'd seen it before.
>>107072421Iron Kingdoms does it.
>>107068695Worldbuilders BTFO, based and well written. However you're still a fag for never updating.
>>107071785>tfw I remember that postAlso, the post you replied to is off by 7070700, 70700 or 700, depending on how ambitious you are.
>>107072530Well shucks, I really enjoy worldbuilding and figured it'd just be better to compile all that trivial worldbuilding information into a field guide like some children's books do. Things supplementary but not critical to the setting might as well be documented, I'd imagine. Especially since you can type it up as opposed to having to illustrate it.Of course I've almost literally just started my webcomic and probably won't be posting pages until after finals, so I've had more time to think than to draw unfortunately.
>>107072571Dunno >>107070707 would have been cooler than just some repeating digits>>107064172Here's a shitty chart I just made for youcutebolds a shit
>>107072769God i hate what Asian influences do to western fantasy sometimes.
>>107072812It's based off one of the earlier DnDs, where kobolds were more like dogmen than lizorbs
>>107072769>spoilerI'll fight you.
>>107071785Kazis such a retard. His comic doesn't have a following. Nobody cares about prequel adventure or whatever non-events will happen next update. They care about his furry waifu character, and to a lesser extent his other furry waifu character. And it's not like this is a secret phenomena. Star fox adventures is shit and has always been considered shit. Most of the sonic franchise is shit, but that's not what 90% of people who still talk about the franchise care about. Fucking scooby doo and the ghoul school is not a cult classic. No, kaz has not been the one keeping prequel adventure alive for 4 or 5 years. Filthypaladin and Raydio have.
>>107038798Honestly fuck off. You're just stringing it out as long as possible.
>>107046987It would have more impact if people demanded the fappers take it to /aco/, but not enough people did. Instead they whined about people trying to force them to /aco/.
>>107042890>all night laundry>check it out>nearly every update is a single panelNot exactly a fair comparison there.
>>107073549If every update in prequel were 50 panels long you would have a point
>>107072530>Worldbuilders btfoLMAO, know your place stupid fanfictiontard. The lowest form of fiction
>>107073405come at me bro!
>>107073454>all merch has sold out except the gay tapestry>i-it's just the pornAnd yet you're still in every Prequel thread.These threads get more and more like the Endtown threads every day. People want to sit there and bitch about the comic endlessly, but not one of them will actually stop reading. If they had stopped reading, they wouldn't have a reason to visit these threads. It's like someone sitting there eating a sandwich and making a disgusted face after every bite, but they never think to stop eating the damn thing. Then someone hands them another sandwich of the exact same ingredients, and they dig in without hesitation, making the same disgusted face after every bite. Protip, if they really didn't like it, they would stop eating it.
>>107073833I didn't say prequel was bad, I said that it wasn't good enough to retain a following on its own given how it goes on hiatus every single update. And I'm correct.
>>107074105>and I'm correctProve it then. If fucking Gone With the Blastwave can retain a fanbase, why not Prequel?
>>107071908SSSS is pretty good, yeah.
>>107073833>People want to sit there and bitch about the comic endlessly, but not one of them will actually stop reading.I've actually stopped reading endtown
>>107074386Do you still visit Endtown threads?
>>107074361Seconding. SSSS is gold. Author expreses their love for the survival horror genre while showing of various nordic cultures and the minute differences in their language.
>>107074361SSSS? What’s that?
>>107074528Stand Still, Stay Silenthttp://sssscomic.com/
>>107074528Stand Still Stay Silentslice of life with action moments set in post apocalyptic scandinavia. updates 4x a week
>>107074395I haven't seen a single endtown thread in months.>>107074528>SSSS? What’s that?slow-burning post-apocalyptic nordic webcomicgorgeous art, made by an insane slav that updates 4 times a weekSSSS K6BD and unsounded are the holy trinity of webcomicshttp://www.sssscomic.com/
>>107074576>I haven't seen a single endtown thread in months.Its banned from /co/, has to live in /trash/
>>107074576Then you aren't one of those people hanging out in the thread bitching about the comic.
>>107063652>cute protag is all that mattersPeople like you are the reason /co/ is as bad as it is.
>>107074545>>107074561>>107074576Alright, thank you, anons. I need a good webcomic to past the time at uni.>>107074664This.
>>107074576>slavRude, she's a finnish-scandinavian mix
>>107073549There are 13 panels in this update of Prequel. Even if you count each flash animation frame as a separate panel (it absolutely isn't), then that's around 25 panels.If ANL had to produce 25 panels, it would update each day, consistently, for around 3 weeks, and you'd have 25 panels.When Prequel has to produce 25 panels, it goes on hiatus for 3 months with no indication of when the next panel is. ANL also includes 25 snippets of text with those 25 panels, which allows it to develop the characters and advance the plot far more than Prequel does with its lesser amount of text. This is helped by vastly better pacing.So you're right, it's not a fair comparison. Kazerad obviously has some problems with mental illness and a learning disorder, because he's incapable of doing even a tenth of the work the ANL guy does at a far more consistent schedule. It wouldn't be fair to compare an actual retard with a normal, functioning member of society.
>>107068311>I bet you just wanna see if I make something with 100% animal people.I want Kaz to make the next Redwall, except instead of Raspberry Cordial and Shrimp 'n' Hotroot Soup it's beer and bbq wings
>>107075602I love going to the bottom of long threads about pieces of media and seeing what stupid arguments people are having about completely unrelated things
>>107046987Threads about this web-comic would not be allowed on /aco/, due to their rules enforcement
lmao when even kaz gets deleted
I'm not sure why Kazerad's posts get deleted. Is it because they're off-topic?
>>107076134Probably for namefagging too hard/off-topic/not updating enough
>>107076134>>107075960>>107076454Good. The guy comes here to shill his comic and brag about how smart he is while his fanboys suck him off in spite of his weak ass storytelling. I can live without that.
>>107076563I disagree with you there. Kazerad is a good storyteller, but he's putting his skill to waste with his laziness.
>>107076134Maybe he self deleted to fix something. Like an error, or maybe too much personal information.
>>107076747Wait, no never-mind, he just confirmed that wasn't it (and then got deleted again).
>>107077284>Like, I want to understand why my copypasted cat is popular while something with better art that updates daily like All Night Laundry hovers around 3-digit readership.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxAvBx24pjkYes, truly an unsolved mystery worthy of Robert Stack.
>>107077284>Like, I want to understand why my copypasted cat is popular while something with better art that updates daily like All Night Laundry hovers around 3-digit readership.I already explained, it's furry waifus. But you ignored my post and will ignore this post, and go on pretending that being fucking lazy is artistic expression.
>>107072812Asian fantasy is just outdated Western fantasy
>>107068695I liked your original stuff about bug people.Wait... that was Homestuck fanfiction, technically, wasn't it.
I, for one, appreciate all the hard work our selfless moderation team put in all on their own free time for no compensation and I think you should all be a little bit more appreciative of that.
>>107072003>one panel and an entire page of wordsPrequel is a web novel
>>107069436Oh go suck your own dick.
>>107077684Deleting kaz posts is a universal good
>>107069506>The main character is a very short college student who is frequently mistaken for a teen, preteen, or occasionally a childNot loving it so far.
>>107069782>No one has a "background" in art you fuckNo, that is a real thing you can study. Art is more than just doing doobies and post modern lampshade dancing.Stop being a dope who vents his own frustrstions on or in the direction of others.
>>107072769>Mammailian kobold>One of them is a mouseguard character.Bitch you pulled it on the wrong day.
>>107076134Probably counts as Avatarfagging.
>>107078108well, I did admit to it being a shitty chart
>>107078853>put on a proper trip codebut then we wouldn't be able to pretend to be kaz!...not that people really do that anymore tho
Which is the more endearing protagonist:deuteragonist relationship?P: Mediocre young adult that doesn't start trying to improve until the D: Ambitious child gets under their care and requires the adult to put in extra work maintaining his illusion of distanced superiority.P: Mediocre young adult that seeks to grow with the advice of D: Elderly adult that is essentially the realized version of a late bloomer, content and possessing several masteries.P:Child protagonist operating partially oblivious to the efforts of D: Non-parental mother-figure (Think a nanny that's around more than Mom)P/D: Two adult protagonists that go wildly off the typical pathways to conventional success and wind up surpassing mediocrity in peculiar ways.
>>107079342>incelanybody who unironically uses that words is pretty damn cringe
>>107079417It’s just a word that describes some people pretty damn well, dude. Quit being such a whiner.It perfectly fits the behavior of the waifu-obsessors on this site have; they’re constantly active in waifu-worshipping threads on /v/ and /a/ or /co/, but anything pertaining to furries is struck down because it’s “degenerate cancer” or some other /pol/-tier buzzwords
>>107036555How often do you update YOUR webcomic, pray tell?
>>107079798>appeal to accomplishmentNo.
>>107039434>>107039414Pretty easy to be so flippant about something you've never actually had to do yourself.But destroying is typically easier than creating.
>>107080809>no one ever has done what kaz has donecome on, literally every schmuck has their own webcomic nowadays.
>>107052152>>Empathy? What's that?
>>107080809>muh feefeesIf you can't handle brutal honesty then 4chan is not the place for you.
>>107052878>sedentary lifestyle or drug abuse, plus mental illnessSounds like you summed up /co/ in a nutshell.
>>107080809>Pretty easy to be so flippant about something you've never actually had to do yourself.Writing fanfiction?
>>107057226Yeah. They make the best Biblical fanfiction.
>>107075888But almost every other thread where people post barely sfw images and their slashfiction belongs there yet they are always posted here. It seems like people who can't post on the right board getting instantly banned would improve quality of life for everyone since people who want porn will be able to post porn and people who don't want the cancer spam won't see as much of it.
>>107063957Go hang around him.
>>107068311Youd think that if critics know so damn much about what makes a good movie, then why don't they ever make award-winning movies themselves? Should be child's play for them the way they shit on others work so relentlessly.
>>107068828Except he DOES update. Whether he updates enough is of course debatable. But him actually making updates is not.
>>107081377stop playing dumb
>>107081337>implying that prequel is an award winning storyCrappy fanfiction shilled by thirsty furfags.
>>107075299So start up your own web comic/novel and show Kaz how it's properly done.Just kidding. You and I both know you won't. It typically takes much less effort to shit on something than it is to actually do it yourself.
>>107077839Did that a couple hours ago. Probably do it again in 3 more.
>>107080092Don't worry. I already assumed your answer when I posted it.
>>107080956My feelings are fine. But not an argument. I'm still right. It's far easier to talk shit than actually do anything yourself.
>>107081620You don't need an argument to refute a fallacy.
>>107081425Simply stating a fact. You said he never updates. Yet that is demonstrably untrue.Now does he update ENOUGH? Well, that wasn't what was said.
>>107081485I made that in regards to movie critics. Prequel featured nowhere in that statement. But it is a valid question.
>>107081573Don't care for furries, personally.But it's cute that you have a convenient excuse instead of actually answering the question.Always easier to destroy than create.
>>107081647But it's not a fallacy when it's literally true that it takes less time and effort to type out a sentence on the internet than to actually create something yourself. That's an objective fact.
>>107081737It is, is still a fallacy, you can repeat the " do yourself then" dozens or even hundreds of times, is irrelevant.
>>107081647But it's not a fallacy when it's literally true that it takes less time and effort to type out a sentence on the internet than to actually create something yourself. That's an objective fact.Im willing to bet it took more time and effort to draw the basic line art for one panel than it took for you to make that post.
>>107081787>>irrelevantOnly because you know full well you're too lazy to. I however, know the truth about your kind.
>>107081787>you can repeat the " do yourself then" dozens or even hundreds of timesThat is exactly what he's going to do, for as long as you'll feed him (You)s. He doesn't actually give a shit about the topic, he just wants someont to acknowledge his existence.
>>107081337Anon, are you... familiar with the concept of a movie critic? Food critic? You don't need to be growing your own grapes to judge a wine's quality.Additionally plenty of us have our own projects. I know what it's like to put a lot of time and effort into GMing or game dev, it's hard as balls and exhausting. That won't stop me for criticizing Kaz though. If I had a blog for posting game updates on a pretty good game and thousands of people following it and one blog post a year saying "update: added a new enemy recolor" I would personally accept all the criticism ever. Instead I know that, personally, I'm just going to finish my games BEFORE I release or even talk about them. Kaz doesn't owe us anything but he sure as fuck takes a lot of time (which we're allowed to complain about).Even if making a comic required spilling your own blood onto the floor I'd still chastise the guy honestly. The excuses are silly. Just own up to the fact you weren't feeling it ffs.
>>107080809It's easy to flippantly dismiss Kaz's output when there are people who put out TENS OF TIMES as much content WITHOUT OUTSIDE HELP. Obviously not every artist needs to be a fucking madman like Andrew Hussie, but for fucks sake, 13 panels in two and a half MONTHS? AND HE DIDN'T EVEN DRAW THE BACKGROUNDS?
>>107082078Reminds me of Oda of One Piece fame who only puts ot about 13 pages a month and doesn't even do the backgrounds.
>>107082587Or Hunter x Hunter author selling literal sketchesMeanwhile actual beautifully made mangas like a "bride story" are never heard by the average normalfag
>>107082587>13 pages per monthMeanwhile Kaz puts about 2 panels every 2 or 3 months.
>>107082763You can't just mention Bride Stories and not post tapestries.
>>10708258713 comic pages is much more work than the vast majority of prequel updates. But no, it's not monthly, it's weekly. One piece has over 900 fucking chapters, because Oda actually takes his work seriously.
>>107082587He puts out about 3 chapters a month, and they are usually 16-19 pages each. Besides, the breaks are supposedly imposed on him by shueisha.
>>107082763>>107082805I feel bad for the author, he put more work in a single panel than Oda put through an entire chapter. He deserve so much more than what he got. Each manga from his is an art gallery.
>>107083221>heIs a woman.
>>107083284I love her. There was an author's note for one of her mangas where she wasjust talking about random things and it mentioned how her editor was pissed at her for the chapter being late because she spent three days drawing an armoire.
>>107073833>Protip, if they really didn't like it, they would stop eating it.They liked what it was and they're hoping it'll go back to that. In the meantime they have fun throwing peanuts.Honestly if the guy who writes it can pull it out of the doldrums they way they're hoping they'll probably be the first people to return to supporting it monetarily; apparently he alienated a lot of his supporters and is living in poverty now.
>>107083431The catch with entertainment is that you'll always have a certain core of diehard fans who'll almost never leave, and if you choose you can always turn to them for comfort. But unless you're a massive success or some kind of monopoly, it's the fairweather fans that pull the margins and make it all profitable. There's usually more of them than there'll ever be "whales" or whatever you want to call them.
>>107083503I would say it's the exact opposite. The "fairweather fans" who set a dollar donation each month and then forget they've done so are a dime a dozen and will continually come and go (usually going when they check their patreon account and realise they're sending a dollar a month to something they don't read any more). The more popular you are, the more exposure, the more money you get from this rotating pile of people as the exposure linearly translates to a more or less constant bubble of money - this is how authors who have "made it big" stay solvent even though they're probably beyond the influence of the more controlling editors by now and writing to please themselves.On the other hand, when you're as niche as Endtown, it's the hardcore ones, the ones that'll believe in you enough (until you seriously disappoint and disillusion them) to give you $25/$50/$75 a month, that matter when keeping you afloat, and you have to please them or you risk being set adrift. They're also the evangelists who sustain and increase exposure to the "casuals" - the people who strive to make threads for your comic in places like /co/, the people who talk about it on social media, the people who send little emails to websites suggesting you as an interview subject (the Endtown guy used to be popular for that, but hasn't had an interview offer in two years... strange, that).I mean, just look at Endtown's patreon page. Last I checked it's mostly being supported by bigger donors, and it sure as hell looks like they're the ones slowly leaving and dropping their pledges as the comic drifts between stupid and boring.
>>107083661Hence why I say, "Unless you're a massive success or some kind of monopoly". It's not rocket science. If only a few people can afford to send you $75 per month to make a comic, then obviously those people are in the minority. For every one of those guys, there's 75 people donating $1.You could pledge allegiance to Hitler and still retain a surprising number of "whales", but you'll lose the fairweather fans.
>>107083703I think you and I must be defining "fairweather" differently, then. I'm talking about casuals, who will donate for a period and then leave, but of whom there will usually be a constant, rotating number, buoyed by exposure.The hardcore, like the ones in trash (currently in "disappointed mode" but ready to come back) are the ones that are most reliable for a niche author if treated right, being both the high-rollers with a vested interest in the comic, and the engine of exposure that drives the influx of casuals.The Endtown guy needs to mend things with the latter, they were his only hope for a ticket to the big time (or even to not starving) without transforming the comic wholesale into something Garfield-tier.>For every one of those guys, there's 75 people donating $1.With Endtown, it's more like there's 50 people donating a dollar and a whole bunch of people in the $20-150 range, and the latter appear to be the ones that are decreasing their support. Like I said, since it's super-niche it's sustained by the hardcore, and they're slowly leaving or devaluing the comic as it disappoints them more and more.
>>107039691Thanks, anon.Lost this with my HDD.Glad someone saved it.
>>107039092Who are those "we" you are talking about?
>>107085064>>107039092Who is this 'we', Kemo Sabe?
>>107085064>>107085220>replying to a troll to keep a thread aliveBasic Bitches.
>>107072003I wouldn't have minded as much if it meant more updates but it's been 5 months since his last one.
>>107082763This art is fantasitc. It's legitimately the best manga art I've ever seen.
>>107037329Heyyy, I made that picture like, five fuckin' years ago. Fucking awesome.
>>107083503I'd say that the 100/10/1 rule (among 100 fans, 90 are silent lurkers, only 10 will care enough to actually make their presence known, and only 1 of those 10 will be die-hard enough to create content or buy merch) used to matter a whole lot more in the days of ad revenue. But now with Patreon "whales" have a bigger impact. Never underestimate the money a furry working a blue-collar job is willing to throw at content he likes.
>>107082763I guess people care more about the story than the art huh
>>107088018>Never underestimate the money a furry working a blue-collar job is willing to throw at content he likesthey work in ITprogramming socks is a meme for a reason
>>107089609Yeah, I meant to say white-collar. You're right, it's always fucking IT.
>>107043986Hey friend. You seem to be using an incorrect name for the owner of the site. It's Hiroshimoot.Have a nice day!
>>107089718Achually, mook was coined first but for whatever bizarre reason some anons still cling to the less obvious and way longer name. I'm assuming said anons are newfags that have no clue about this sites history, and just keeps regurgitating the first name they saw back in 2016.
>>107089718>>107089790Gook moot. It's fucking gook moot. Morons.
>>107089661What other department lets them sit on their ass all day on their computers and with little interaction from people?
>>107068311>>107068695>>107070270When you finally make this original property of yours, you should make the main waifu a bunny girl this time. Can't go wrong with perfectly long ears and a cute little fluff of a tail.(that is assuming you don't go really unusual, like an anthropomorphic clam or something).
>>107088345>One Piece >StoryLiterally filler after filler about Luffy saving some new poor group of retards from some le evil jerk who want to use them as slave labour and then luffy kick his ass while some faggot makes a melodramatic speech, everyone cries, the straw hats move on to another fucking beach/island to save another group of retards from another le evil jerk with the same bullshit with no actual plot progressionIs literally unironically nothing more than that, is the most repetitive manga in history of mankind, you can take off 99% of the story and the plot wouldn't change at all.
>>107091284The Skypiea Saga is a good self contained story. That really could have been the whole manga right there. It started rocky and eventually went to shit by refusing to break formula, though, you're right.