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Fucking cliffhangers.
I'm just so tired of the Zhan Tiri shit.
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>>107023580
did she died?
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miss me yet?
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>>107023580
>I'm just so tired of the Zhan Tiri shit.

Nothing proves this was his doing. I mean it's extremely likely but it'll be a while before we find out
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>>107024682
Lol

no
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>>107024682
Shut up and get on your fucking knees and spread your asscheeks Varian
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>>107023580
>S3 Goethel returns and turns the King and Queen Evil
>S4 Eugene is the Dark Rider Saga
>S5 Rapunzel has to travel back in time to murder Cassandra before she shows her the black rocks.
>Epilogue Rapunzel and Eugene marry and start having sex but without Cassandra, EUGENE NEVER EXISTED
Don't thank me. Thank based Genndy.
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>>107024682
Men have no place in the new lesbian world of darkness
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>The virgin Star Butterfly

>The Chad Sun Goddess
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>>107023580
And this is what it means to go further beyond!
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>>107023646
No, she betrayed.
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>>107024682
;_;
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>>107025055
This but unironically.
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WHERE IS VARIAN?!
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Place your bets, just what the fuck happened in there?
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>>107025912
Rapunzel is the worst friend to have because she's not inherently malevolent. She's selfish and ignorant of other people's emotions. Traits all sociopaths possess. Varian and Cassandra chose to help her out of their own goodness, traits that Rapunzel exploited for her own benefit while completely unaware of how much it was costing them to care for her.

That's why they couldn't tell her how much of a jerk she is to her face, they felt guilty due to her upbringing so they kept helping her, all while piling up resentment every time she let them down.

Since they were guilt tripped into accepting she wasn't at fault, the anger built up until they exploded and drove them both to insanity. Meanwhile Rapunzel went on her merry way to pursue whatever picks her fancy.

To reach her destiny, she will gladly step on the corpses of her followers, using them to build a stairway to her dream. She will offer her friends and lover to unspeakable horrors on a whim, all while keeping that smile on her face.
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>>107026130
Ever seen the Twin Peaks season 2 finale?
That.
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>>107026130
Cass had visions of Rapunzel mocking her for being a femcel.
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>>107026153
>muh sociopath, selfish and ignorant
Sociopaths are deliberately malicious and egotistic. Rapunzel is a good girl but no matter how good you are you can't save everyone. Fuck off back to SvtFoE threads if you want a to shit on a princess.
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>>107026180
Just say incel, it's universal
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>>107026180
As the door shut behind her, Cassandra took in her surroundings. She stood at the entrance to Lost Lagoon.
'Great' she thought, 'Another illusion.'
As she ventured into the cove, she heard splashing and giggling. She stopped as her foot caught something. A discarded violet dress.
Rapunzel splashed in the shallows, all grins and giggles. She lit up when she saw Cass and charged over to her, shamelessly nude.
"There you are Cass!" She beamed, taking Cass' withered hand. "The water is SO lovely!"
"I-I can't," Cass stammered, her face turning red as she turned away.
"You can't swim? Don't worry, I'll teach you," Rapunzel crooned as she pawed at Cass' shirt. "Let's get this off so it doesn't get WET!"
"Rapunzel, no! St-stop it! You're... YOU AREN'T REAL!"
Rapunzel froze and dropped her hands from Cass's shirt. Slowly, her expression unreadable, she leaned in and softly, so softly kissed her cheek. Her warm breath tickled her ear as she whispered.
"You're a sharp one. I like that,"

Suddenly, Cass was in the palace kitchen, mountains of dirty dishes in front of her. Her shirt was still wet from Rap's hands.
"Cassandra, what are you doing?" Old Lady Crowley voice interrupted her thoughts. "You can't wash dishes with that hand of yours!"
"What? Don't try to trick me, I know you're not-"
"Hush, we've already established that. I'll wash, you dry." She pulled up a stool and put her hands in the suds. Cass robotically picked up a towel.
"Who are you?" She demanded, with all the force she could muster as she wiped a plate she was handed. It the finest china. The Coronation china.
"There are so many names," Crowley mused as she polished a stubborn spot on a salad fork. "But Xhan Tiri will suffice. What is it you want, Cassandra?"
"What?"
"What is it you want out of life? Love, respect, power? Everybody wants something," she crooned as she pulled a sword out of the foam. "I'll dry this one Cass, Lord knows you can't handle swords anymore."

Cont
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reminder Cass is pure and this is all that dumbass Rapunzel's fault.
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>>107026270
Cass shook her head clear and saw the dimly lit armory. Her father stood at attention, staring straight ahead.
"Try the bastard sword," he demanded, not even looking as she pathetically try to swing it. Her withered hand had no strength, her healthy one no finesse. She'd seen peasants shovel pig shit with more grace. "Try the hand-and-a half, the rapier, the claymore, mace, flail, axe, shortsword!" He rattled off everything in the armory.
"I can't," she croaked hoarsely. She felt her eyes burn.
"Try the dagger then," he sneered, his features taking on Fitzherbert's. "That's a woman's weapon. Though I can't tell if you wanna put it in Blondie's back or cut her out of her clothes with it!"

She was back with the caravan, they'd stopped for the night. Fitzherbert and Raps cuddled sickeningly by the fire.
"Envy is a green-eyed monster Cass. All the monsters in your life have green eyes, don't they?" Shorty burbled as he sat up from the dirt.
"I'm not jealous of them!" she spat, turning away from them. They were doing a lot more than cuddling now. She put her hands over her ears to drown out the sounds they made.
"That's not what I said."Shorty slurred, stumbling to sit next to her. Envy is wanting what others have. Jealousy is having something and being afraid to lose it. And you... have nothing to lose."

Cont...
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>>107026297
She was at the Alchemist's shack. Quirin's amber sarcophagus was bright green instead of gold, bathing the room in a sickly glow.
"Come on Cass, tell me one way she hasn't let you down!" Varian tutted from atop his father's tomb. "She breaks your heart every day, she ratted you out to EUGENE, she dragged away from your destiny to follow her own," he counted off his withered, blackened fingers. "She'd rather trust the oh so cool Adira than her best friend, and last but not least!" He leapt down from his perch and stalked towards her.

"She crippled you, burnt you, ruined you forever with evil magic. She stole any hope of being a warrior right from your very fingers." Cassandra sunk to her knees and fought back tears. "From the moment she entered your life she has given you nothing but grief. Nothing but heartbreak."
"Why are you telling me this!?" She snarled at him. "If you expect I'll betray her-"
I EXPECT NOTHING, the voice echoed, shattering the illusion and leaving her in a dark void. "Cass wept and looked at her withered rotted hand with shuddering hatred. BUT KNOW THIS. THE SUNDROP ISNT THE ONLY FORCE THAT CAN ACHIEVE MIRACLES.

Cass caught her breath as her hand burned with a green light. She flexed her fingers and found they moved with an unfamiliar strength.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. NOW GO. YOUR FRIENDS ARE EXPECTING YOU CASSANDRA

Dimly, her restored hand felt a knob in it. Turning it, she opened the door and stepped out into the Sunlight
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best disney princess romance there is. it's ridiculous how far ahead they're from the other disney couples.
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Yeah nah Cassandra didn't sell out for any of that shit is just a red herring. Her love for Rapunzel was simply wrung inside out and became hatred. Nothing a good foot massage can't fix.
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>>107023580
Never send a girl to do a man's job.
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>>107026438
What would it be like if Cassandra and Rapunzel performed the Fusion dance?
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>>107026382
True, Disney has been on point with their romance and it's nice to see them struggle and develop as an established couple.
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>>107026291
So good with her hands
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>>107026470
It's not Disney.
You know why Disney has been shitting up the schedule for this show and kept it at minimal public exposure?
Because Disney doesn't want to set the bar high for their other shows. They keep Raps around to push merchandise and possibly for other reasons but it's obvious they hate what it represents.
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>>107026532
But from what I read in other thread, it's moving to Disney+ where it may get more love. We should popularize the crap out of this and show the mouse that adults love this thing. Maybe they can make more plot related episodes that both children and adults can enjoy.
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>>107026153
Hot damn we've got a copypasta now!

fuck WHERE IS VARIAN poster
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>>107026569
why care what people like when live action shitcoms cost nothing to make
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>>107026569
Every time Disney finds out one of its shows are good they decompress it and it turns out shit almost immediately.
Tangled writers already have everything plotted out, don't ask for sudden changes. Just enjoy the ride.
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>>107026291
>Her hand was severely damaged
>She's able to do complex string patterns like that

SOMETHING'S FUCKY
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Why every fucking show tries to be fucking Gravity Falls?
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>>107026569
You know what Disney should really do?
Instead of a live action remake, a no motion blur remake.
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>>107026630
I assume her dexterity is fine but she can't use too much strength.
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RAPS DID NOTHING WRONG
CASS AND VARIAN ARE SEETHING AUTISTS
FUCK ARENDELLE
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>>107026642
>Gravity Falls
Get off the site newfag. This is a Mystery Inc. board.
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>>107026643
This
I'm one of those faggots who use frame interpolation to watch movies at 48fps but that means I have to put up with artifacts, I would pay for actual 48fps releases of disney movies.
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>>107026642
>Muh every show that isn't a completely episodic comedy is trying to be gravity falls

Neck yourself
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>Rapunzel and Cass now have glowing blue ND yellow hair. God this is DBZ.
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>>107026679
>a FUCKING leaf

How do icefags even live
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They both have glowing hair. This is DBZ!
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Nudist DBZ princess
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>>107026719
Their inbred population should all be purged. Their men should be flayed alive and hanged from Corona's outer walls while their women are turned into breeding sows for the Coronian army.
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Rapunzel was warning herself the entire time. Why didn't she listen to herself? It was obvious the dark haired pale girl who doesn't wear skirts was up to no good.
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>>107026786
Official story is that his raccoon found a compromised air vent cover and Varian son of Quirin was able to make his escape in the dead of night, and has not been seen since

In other news, the burned and dismembered body found tied to weights in Corona Bay earlier this year has still yet to be identified
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>>107026775
>mfw watching Anna, the whore princess of Arendelle, being raped by the royal guard in the ballroom of the Corona castle.
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>>107023580
Friendly reminder that this with Cass and with Varian before it is all Rapunzel's fault, Rapunzel did everything wrong, and is worst girl.
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>>107026786
He'll have to choose a side in the Rapunzel vs. Cassandra civil war.
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>>107026861
Don't do that, the guards will catch some bad disease. Plus, the whore princess will probably like it.
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>>107026866
You're not our friend, get out of here.
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>>107026642

How is every show with a story now Gravity Falls?
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Quality of these threads is rapidly decreasing. I think it's time to take a break guys.
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>>107026130
>Owl was in the door too
Is the owl also gonna be evil now?
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>>107027082
the hiatus will staunch the flow naturally. It always has

when it comes back the shitposters will have rooted themselves in some other show
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>>107027082

That happens with every property thread right after something big happens and it gets a lot of attention. It'll go away naturally.
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>>107027094
owl is either another servant of zhan tiri, zhan tiri himself of gothel. he revealed its true self when they were inside the door and then dropped a lore bomb on cass which shifted or rather enhanced her motivations.
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>>107023580
Any chance we get a Disney version of the red wedding?

Rapunzel: Corona sends its regards
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>>107027190
>of gothel
*or gothel
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>>107027082
I know what we should do over the hiatus!
A Raimi-Tangled scene contest!
>Nobel prize, Varian! Nobel prize!
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>>107027265
Cute. I like it.
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>>107025912
Is this Berserk reference on purpose
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>>107027138

Cassandra's character arc til now in a nutshell.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BwQtToeFqAF/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_medium=loading
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>>107027501
>>107027138
>goes for the boob grab

based chem'd out Cass having eyes on the prize
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>>107027483
A summary of the season 2 finale
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>>107027502
>the artist outright calling her "evil cass"
Well, there goes any room for doubt. I'm kinda sad. I want this to get resolved in a satisfying way.
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>>107023580
>withered blue hand
>withered blue heart

Beware! For these are the bitter fruits of Oneitus. Gaze upon them, ye unrequited, and know what awaits ye.
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This is my favorite shonen on right now
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Should I watch this show
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Is someone in the next season gonna tell Rapunzel how shitty person she is?
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>>107027590
Yeah, IN QUOTATIONS

She's giving it the colloquial name people have after the sudden, edgy twist
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>>107027646
Damn any of those would have been better than her actual outfit imo but the middle two are best
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>"These are concepts for “Evil Cassandra” that I did for Tangled waaaaaaay back in 2014! That’s right: I knew Cass was gonna turn on Rapunzel THIS WHOLE TIME! (I am good at keeping secrets) These were *extremely* early, before Cassandra’s design had been finalized. If I remember correctly, the direction was: magic blue opal goes into Cassandra’s body and makes her evil - so the armor is like part her body, like rock formations literally growing out of her like a magic exoskeleton"
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>>107027628
Yes. It got some pretty amazing plot and DEEPEST LORE. Got Alan Menken (the guy from Little Mermaid and Pocahontas OST) doing the musical score and the original voice actors from the movie.

The best episodes are:
0) Tangled: Happily Ever After movie
1) What the Hair?
2) Fitzherbert P.I.
3) The Return of Strongbow
4) Great Expotations
5) Under Raps
6) Pascal Story
7) Queen for a Day
8) Painter's block (part of the plot of season 2)
9) The Quest for Varian
10) The Alchemist Returns
11) Secret of the Sundrop
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>>107027657
That's what I thought at first too but you never know
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Is Cass a gamer?
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>>107027673
If Cassandra wasn't going to be evil, her hair wouldn't be raven black.
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>>107027711
Worse, she's a Game Dev.
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Here's hoping for some life magic and death magic clashes in season 3
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>>107027657
It says "Evil Cassandra", not "Evil" Cassandra
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>>107027847
WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN THE SHOW COMES BACK UNTIL THEN YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT AND NEITHER DOES SHE
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>>107027847
well "Misguided, and unfortunately consumed by her own demons Cassandra" isn't as snappy
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>>107027711
Needs a little je ne se quois.
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>>107027864
Stage 1: Denial
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>>107023580
>the lesbian gets problem hair and turns evil
based as fuck
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>>107027883
Good. Now put "Rapunzel" in the place of "Veronica"
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>>107027914
It just asks for it
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where my moon bros at?
sunfags get the fuck out.
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They should've kept that dumb bitch a kid. Can you believe being a 20-year old handmaiden and STILL thinking you deserve some kind of epic future? You're a servant bitch. Grow the fuck up.
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It´s clear that´s not the original Cass. That´s what the door thingy was for.
Besides, she´s a normal human. Normal humans can´t wield the power of the stone.
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>broke a promise to help that little kid and he turned evil
>crippled and ignored my best friend and she turned evil
>yep, none of this is my fault
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>>107028069
Ok, suppose MIRACULOUSLY she isn't the real Cassandra despite the art guy basically confirming it up here >>107027673. Do you suppose this doppelganger will reveal it's true nature by peeling off the stone layer and then the skin layer and underneath that it's a tentacle monster? Because that's pretty hot too.
Or just maybe Cassandra is evil and hot.
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>>107028063
this but unironically, they could've raised her all over again, this time right
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>>107028096
Cassandra crippled herself you autistic shit. She needs to learn to follow orders from her Queen.
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>>107028069
>It´s clear that´s not the original Cass.
Still in denial I see
Or does this count as bargaining?
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>>107027673
>These were *extremely* early, before Cassandra’s design had been finalized.
So this was planned from the start?
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>>107027756
Fuck EA
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>>107028171
I wouldn't be surprised if the whole show has all been planned out before the pilot even aired
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>>107028162
Ok, what evidence is there that she is the real one because I have
>weird door that was never answered and left hanging. Cass came out of that in a weird way
>Smiled like a fucking devil the very next episode with no explanation as to why
>She´s a normal human, and normal humans shouldn´t be able to control the stone
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>>107028171
they knew from the start that this was a 3-season series so it makes sense they roadmaped the arcs of the main characters from the very beginning.
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>>107027673
Fuck, they were much better than what we got. I'd say my favorite is the 3rd one with the 2nd one chest gem close second. Reminds me of Prinzel Tutu bad girl mixed with Guriffito.
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>>107028193
Counterpoint.
The art guy confirmed it.
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>>107028096
If you think about she was raised by a psicopatic more than a century-old witch
Who know what else she's been taught
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Well we know from the leaked script that Cass leaves Rapunzel in good terms so either
>This isn´t the real Cass, the real one is locked somewhere else and this is an evil spirit or some shit like that
or
>Cass is gonna be evil but at the end, she will realize she was wrong and everyone will forgive her, even if she almost destroyed the world.
This is why I don´t want this to be the real Cass because I'm sick of despicable villains being forgiven for their awful actions. If I didn´t know about the script I would be fine with this being real Cass, but now I'm not. The show evaded the shitty "villain redemption at the last second" trope with Varian, so if they make this with Cass I will be furious.
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>>107028193
>weird door that was never answered and left hanging. Cass came out of that in a weird way
>Smiled like a fucking devil the very next episode with no explanation as to why
Both of these can be explained with Cassandra simply seeing something in that room that changed her mind somehow, what? we don't know yet
>She´s a normal human, and normal humans shouldn´t be able to control the stone
Um, she's a normal human with the power of the moonstone, just like Rapunzel is a normal human with the power of the sundrop, she got her whole body covered in black rocks, she's definitely not "normal" anymore.
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>>107027673
>a Disney princess show has a better planned out plot than fucking Star Wars
Jesus Christ
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>>107028246
>Cassandra
>Despicable
She hasn't done anything seriously damning yet.
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>>107028246
>This isn´t the real Cass
Anyone who actually believes this is simply in denial because they don't want their Cassandra to actually go evil for real
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>>107027590
she needs cape long hair
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>>107028198
this is also part of the reason why, despite being completely ignored, Disney can't cancel the series until it's done, they grabbed one of their most recent Disney Princesses (Anna and Elsa are not officially part of that branding yet) and decided to make more canon content with her, they gave her back her hair and set her on her own adventure to return to the status quo of the Ever After short, they have to see her return to that status quo in her story before they can leave the franchise alone.
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>>107028265
Well, her actions may destroy the world, and she ruined the last chance to get rid of all those black stones (which was the entire point of this trip). I would call that pretty despicable. Plus, the fact that the crew calls her "Evil Cass" doesn´t make me think she will do good things with it.
>Anyone who actually believes this is simply in denial because they don't want their Cassandra to actually go evil for real
Except she´s not going to "go evil for real" because a leaked script showed that she and Rapunzel end up in good terms. If she´s the real Cass, then she will be redeemed at some point and everyone will return to being friends. Which is fucking awful, and that´s why I'm hoping she´s a fake.
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>>107028302
second part was meant for>>107028268
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>>107028257
Maybe she's not a normal human after all. She could be some magic thing she was adopted so she could be anything.
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>>107028265
>yet

my penis is ready for her wicked (huhu) acts
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>>107028302
>>107028319
But if it's a fake then all the "Cassandra feels like shit" thing wouldn't even matter since we'd be seeing a clone instead of the actual one, I trust the writers to not simply go "well, actually the real cassandra stayed in the room and this clone is just the big bad evil that needs to be defeated instead of the actual cassandra that's misguided and haunted by her demons"
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>>107028334
Why the fuck does that matter? She has the magic moon rock, nothing says that humans can't use that to control the rocks, Rapunzel herself could actually kinda control the rocks a bit.
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>>107027646
>>107027673
Gozandra the Gozerian
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>>107028302
Anon you are WAY too old to watch girl's children's cartoons and reading leaked scripts and getting hung up on "destroy the world" and being angry about "despicable" characters getting redemption.
You're obviously at that point when any misstep demands immediate retribution and punishment as vindication for your wholesome and perfect life. Pretty much like this >>107028096 guy who keeps spamming about Rapunzel being worst girl.
Maybe you should pitch for a Mr. A. show, that seems more up your alley.
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>>107028302
>Which is fucking awful, and that´s why I'm hoping she´s a fake.
Dude, her being a fake would be 10 times worse than whatever's gonna happen now. Any agency and wieght to Cass until now would go out the window. Go read previous threads, we've dicussed that thouroughly.
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>>107028431
Rofl she doesn't have any agency this way either. She'll have an arc and a redemption and the world will reset her back to a state of content servitude. Agency is for princesses and queens not dumb cunts.
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>>107027673

Are you a girl who falls in love with her friend who is also a girl secretly? Is the girl friend you're in love with a messiah of light? This is what you get, bisexual women and lesbians: a sexy black outfit and world destroying powers.

But still no girlfriend.
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>>107028511
The friend is a girl secretly?
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>>107028458
You don't know shit about what's gong to happen so how about you wait and complain later.
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>>107028455
This is the incredible power of original flavor (lesbian) incels. The first incel was a lesbian, but these incels were just too powerful for the world, so they started talking about watered down male versions of incels. No one is ready for the unstoppable force of OG inceldom.
>>107027524
A threesome or OT3 with Eugene and them would have prevented all of this.
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>>107028360
“Cassandra feels like shit” was solved on the Rapunzel amnesia episode.
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>>107028302
>well her actions may
You're watching a cartoon.
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>>107028376
The fucking king tried to grab it and look what happened
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>>107028581

No, that's a different anime. But it also involves magical overpowered bisexual girls and horrible things happening, so the pattern remains.
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>>107028153
>Hm we could use the Demanitus spear to stop the tree like it did before
>I'll just use this super dangerous Death Spell to stop this tree monster
>Oh shit I can't control this
>Oh fuck
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Why does Casscuntra even exist? She should've died last season, Varian tearing her ovaries and intestines out of her stomach for spurning him.
This show needs more blood.
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>>107028663
That's what happens when you have a pg show, anon. I'm still waiting for an adults version of Tangled with their own version of the red wedding.
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>>107028360
>>107028302
I don't want her to be entirely fake per se, but as people have pointed out right now her heel face turn, unlike Varian's, feels very sudden and jarring. There are things where you can look back and see that Cassandra's not happy, she's got flaws and issues, she's resentful and envious, but nothing that makes a total betrayal and wanting death powers make sense. There are multiple things we don't know so presumably when we get the background it will make sense.
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>>107028616
Nope. She said was that she'd eventually get over it because that's what friends do. But Rapunzel and Cassandra aren't friends. One is a princess and the other is a servant girl.
>>107028637
Ladies in waiting aren't there to question the decisions of their superiors, pleb. Besides Cassandra's weapon skills are demonstrably pathetic, she would've just stabbed herself with the spear.
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>>107028405
>>107028621
>its a cartoon so don’t think about it
I hate this argument
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Working my way through the show for the first time. Apart from episode 3 season 2 has been pretty good so far. Really enjoyed Episode 5.
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>>107028680
> everyone is having a great time at the wedding reception of princess Rapunzel and prince Eugene
> a big fat man approaches Eugene, gives him a handshake, then pulls him into a hug
> Arendelle sends its regards, Hoo-hoo!
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Ok maybe this is just me, but did it feel like they where trying to ship Cass and Lance? There was a bunch of scenes with them together.
I’m probably seeing things but this episode gave me that light feeling. It wasn’t super heavy or anything, just something I noticed.
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>>107028715
Besides, almost everyone seems to forget that Cassandra's reach of the spear wasn't ensured. She tried to grab it but failed due to the tentacles, while they were also beginning to squeeze Eugene and Lance.

Sure, Cassandra MAY have reached the spear and saved everyone, but she could also have failed and gotten Eugene, Lance and everyone else killed. Rapunzel didn't want to risk a party wipe and actually managed to get them out. Rapunzel may have died though if Cassandra hadn't burned her hand to stop it.
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>>107028715
>Ladies in waiting aren't there to question the decisions of their superiors

Actually in European societies, ladies in waiting were usually high ranking aristocrats themselves and could act as influential advisors to royal women. It might make sense for someone new to all this like Rapunzel to defer to a more experienced advisor.

But the problem was that Cassandra's dislike of Adira was based on jealousy and personal dislike, so Rapunzel was right not to pay her too much heed there. She could have handled it better, though.
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>>107028771
It's an unfortunate moment either way because things could have worked out in the end whether they did one plan or the other, but someone would have probably always gotten hurt in the process.
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>>107028717
It's not that it's a cartoon. It's that Cassandra is a main character first and a villain second.
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>>107028779
Either way sacrificing a hand for your princess is a mark of greatest honor, not something to bitch about incessantly as though you weren't doing your duty to the nation and the Crown.
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>>107028779
>Cassandra's dislike of Adira was based on jealousy and personal dislike,
That, but also it's basically Cass's job to be inherently distrustful with anyone who's mysterious enough to leave and appear whenever they wish, and basically lead Raps and the gang into a trap where Eugene and Lance were almost eaten and Rapunzel had to be body-checked out of draining the life from her friend's bodies.

The jealousy comes in when Rapunzel is still more accepting of Adira after that. But she's not ENTIRELY wrong to distrust Adira by that point
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why can't owl be as good as the other animal sidekicks
Edmund's crow is already more lovable
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>>107028868
Because Cass is boring and she wouldn’t hang around with an animal that has an actual personality.
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>>107028868
Cassandra didn't want to be overshadowed by her pet.

Pascal is my favorite Disney mascot, so fun and full of personality. His "battle" with Edmund's crow was fantastic.
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>>107028899
Cass is the most engaging character in the show. Fact. Also Owl is cute.
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>>107028899
>boring
>one of show's two most popular characters along with Varian

Sure. But now I'm wondering, are there any other shows where the breakout fan loved good guy characters keep turning evil like this?
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>>107028990
>breakout fan loved
You guys are full of shit.
The only loved characters are Eugene and Rapunzel.
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>>107028924
Imagine Owl being the one to take her down/bring her back to good then getting all the glory for it
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>>107026291
Pure shit
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>>107029008
They're from the original film so weren't shiny and new. I'd say most of the series fandom focuses on Varian and Cass. And look what happened.
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>>107029021
No different from Varian's racoon.
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>>107028928
You only say that because she’s very relevant now.
>>107028990
>popular
>breakout, fan loved
Bullshit. The only breakout character is Varian. Also, popularity doesn’t equal good.
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PROPER RIPS FUCKING WHEN?
Being 5 episodes behind, because fuck TV rips, is fucking suffering when there's spoilers every fucking where.
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I think it's obvious from the Demanimonkey episode that what will happen is Rapunzel and Cassandra will have to unite in Eugene's capable hands and the power of the sundrop and moonstone (which are actually the girls' respective clitori) will destroy the black rocks and give them orgasms.
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Cassandra is doomed by the wedding short.
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>>107028764
>saying that when one of those convos was ominous foreshadowing and they have a flat out moment where Adira thanks him for saving her
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>>107029054
Just fucking watch them on kimcartoon or something, or the megas
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The trusted friend corrupted by incredible power is such a cliche that even D&D players laugh at it. The Tangled crew has been clever enough thus far. There has to be some sort of twist to this.
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>>107029048
It would be different. Rudiger wasn't given any recognition for his actions and it didn't matter to anyone who really saved the day, just that Varian was stopped. Cass wants to be recognised for her efforts so badly that her being pushed aside in favour of her own pet would be the ultimate slap in the face.
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>>107029049
If not for Cass I wouldn't have bothered with the show. She's the most grounded character, with the most human traits and inner turmoil. The most relatable.
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>>107029059
Eugene is the link between the two. His dick will save the world!
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>>107029143
>There has to be some sort of twist to this.
That's what I'm hoping for too. That's why I'm gonna spam my superhero Cass theory until it becomes true.
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>>107029154
If it comes to that, she should fall on her sword and die
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>>107029167
Maybe ... Rapunzel is planning something else.
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But like, just being party member to the group that saved the world from the black rocks, undid the threat of the Moon Stone, and saved the Dark Kingdom from eternal isolation would have made them all legends

Bringing back Rapunzel from a successful mission of such importance would do more for her cred than almost anything she'd be able to manage alone back home. I sympathize with her feelings of being sidelined by Adira and resentment over not being trusted and getting hurt but it really does feel like that one Anon's posts where he decides Cassandra isn't so eternally buttmad about not being the most glorious person around, but losing out on Rapunzel's adoration and trust. Shit, trust doesn't even work right, Rapunzel's obedience even
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Considering watching this show, is Cassandra actually super gay for Rapunzel or is it like 99% projecting? Because that would be super cute.
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>>107029229
It's mostly internet people having fun with the idea

She's just a driven independent tomboy with absolutely no shown romantic interests but a huge emotional connection, even dependence on Rapunzel
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>>107029229
It's exaggerated, but she does have some very obvioua gay undertones from time to time.
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>>107029229
The voice actress of Cassandra and the crew tried to make her as gay as possible (the va is lesbian too) but not so much that it would have to be censored. It's pretty good.
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>>107029229
You should have started watching years ago so you wouldn't run into spoilers like this!
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>>107025912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLg_wp0IXoI
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>>107028637

The spear only does enough damage if it stabs the heart of the monster. It was the big flower at the bottom of the canyon. She never would have made it.
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>>107029054
When did people become so picky? Or am I too old? Back in my time we were happy when we had shit VHS and now 720p isn't enough.
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>>107029264
>>107029267
>>107029282
Neato. I'm satisfied enough with this. Thanks for the info - I'll give it a watch sometime.

>>107029292
Whenever I get spoiled for something I forget about the thing I was spoiled about 90% of the time. Plus you guys apparently don't know if there will be a second twist or something, so I won't be spoiled for that at least.
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they really should've kept cassandra as a kid, huh
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>>107029297
Demanitus did

Of course Demanitus probably didn't have friends actively getting squeezed when he made his way there
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>>107029322
I'm not going to say you're right

But I'm not gonna say you're wrong
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>What did you do to her?
>I did what you failed to do. I was there for her. Rapunzel and I, we understand each other.
>She doesn't know what you are.
>Eugene... She knows me very well. And when she kissed me, it was just like when she used to kiss me. That taste... Dimberries.
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>>107029312
>low bitrate 720p tv rips are fine you guise
It's called having standards. If you had spent any time on /a/ a decade ago, you would have those too.
How could I possibly enjoy Raps in all her majestic glory when the quality is shit and there's a fucking channel logo?
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>>107029226
The mission was pretty hush hush though. Not many people would know about it.
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>still no on screen death yet
Eldritch abomination Raps sucking the life force from someone leaving only withered corpse or Cass impaling someone through the chest with a rock when?
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>>107029418
Tomorrow anon, tomorrow.
And then their corpses will have sex.
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>>107029418
I believe the only death we have witnessed in this show was Pascal's mom's.
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>I protected you in the castle, now I'm gonna rape your little ass!
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Cass kills Edmund, I'm fucking calling it.
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>>107029359
How could you possibly turn this little thing evil
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>>107025055
Thank goodness.
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>>107029400
First it is totally fine for a first watch.
Second, why would you want to miss out the discussions? The best thing on /co/ is the first few days of sperging with others when something comes out.
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>>107029597
Does this look like the face of a world ending villain to you?
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I know it had to be there since season finales need a big action scene but the finale would've been better if the 5 minutes spent on that was instead Eugene building up on personal conflict for his song.
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>>107029418
In her final desperation Raps will suck Cassandra dry with her hair. Before Cass goes to her eternal sleep Raps will hold her in her arms and gives her a goodbye kiss.
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>>107029359
>tfw Eugene and Raps will never adopt tiny Cass and raise her right so she'll learn her place as a lady in waiting and not grow up with delusions of grandeur
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>>107029635
>uses frames from the episode where she literally takes advantage of a vulnerable Raps with little remorse
Yes, yes it does.
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>>107029687
whaaaaat?

nooo
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>>107029540
Love Cass manhandling Punzie
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All I see is a sweet girl who loves to top
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>>107029229
She’s probably written by lesbians so that’s why it feels as such
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>>107029636
I'm kinda pissed Eugene got almost no exposition for his song. It's the best song in the series imo, but it loses all the stakes it refers to when it's resolved astoundingly quickly. You could have at least had a heated argument with Ash and his son to set that up or something. And if you wanted to show he was a big cinnamon roll along you could have saved that for after the conflict or for season 3 or something. It just really needed that extra push. The song still slaps though, Menken and Slater deliver as always.
https://youtu.be/7_mx-Biv0Cc
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Is there a download for the latest episodes?
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The writers had way too many Bionicles growing up. I think there's at least 20 times someone says Destiny.
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>>107029754
>All I see is a sweet girl who loves to be on top

fix'd
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>tfw Cass's villain song is a sinister Waiting in the Wings reprise
I'd prefer a new one of course but I wouldn't even be mad
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Which episode did Rapunzel go nuclear?
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>>107029930
the one just before the finale
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>You knew this was coming Raps!
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>>107030021
>I HAVE TO FULFILL MY DESTINY

>I'M GONNA SAY THE N-WORD
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>>107026130
>Place your bets, just what the fuck happened in there?

A sexy and beautiful vision of Rapunzel telling Cass that she will never love her when she has a manly royal Chad like Eugene, that Cass is beneath both of them and just a commoner, and that Cass's feelings for her are disgusting and she's a pathetic freak who will die alone and unappreciated.
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>>107030021
>Spiderpunzel again
god damn it
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>>107028302
She literally hasn't done anything other than eat a deadly magic artifact and snickered evilly, you know fuck all about what the consequences will be since literally every input on the subject has been unreliable, cryptic or flat out incorrect.
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>>107030059
>breathes in
>Cassandra, no!
>DESPITE
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>>107030132
Rapunzel should replace Gwen as lead Spider girl.
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>>107023580
>Hey Cassandra! You like riddles, right? What has two thumbs, one withered, a sword, and will never get into my panties?
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>>107030458
>implying Rapunzel wears panties
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>>107029831
https://pastebin.com/hE0MPEXx
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>>107028712
They couldn't telegraph her turn as much because after Varian everyone would've seen it coming. Besides there were plenty of visual and line cues anyway. The reason you perceive it as jarring is because you don't know something she does, but for all her talk of destiny there was obviously something she was hiding.
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>>107030494
The realization she wears nothing beneath her dress.
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>>107023580
Say what you want about the episode, the animation in the Moonstone room was amazing.
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>>107030739
they probably had 50 bucks to spare from the season budget and decided to spend them in the last 2 minutes, it showed.
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>>107030739
I still need a webm of them first walking in when the rocks do that wild lightshow shit
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>>107028924
here's the gif in case you want it, m8.
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>>107023580
>>107030739
How many dicks must Rapunzel go through before she can consider settling with Eugene?
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>>107029687
She uses her knowledge of Rapunzel's past to direct her towards a cure to the memory spell she's under. It's not completely better, and Owl does call her on it a couple times, but she only wants Rapunzel to be okay
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>>107031034
>The Coronan sun priests oft said that the holy light of the heavens would burn out the eyes of children who touched themselves to impure thoughts. Turns out they were half right
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>>107026130
Something involving her real parents I'll bet.
Something terrible that would push her bitter resentment over how things have been for her lately to the breaking point that she couldn't tolerate anymore.
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Why the hell a lot of my favorite characters have to turn evil?
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>>107031066
That reminds me, what is the religion of Corona? Because we did see a bishop
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>>107031034
>When she says she's hot down there
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>>107031101
Corona and Arendelle both seem to be Christian-ish, the kind of kid-friendly Christianism that doesn't burn witches, you know, the boring kind.
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>>107031099
For me it's only happened with Cass and I have greatly enjoyed the experience. What other characters have you experienced this with?
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Why is the Sundrop the symbol of Corona? I thought it's existence was secret. How did Frederick know to go looking for it?
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They better have a new opening song for the third season.
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>>107031204
the first settlers probably knew of the sundrop and over time that knowledge was forgotten and they just liked the sun because traditions, Frederick knew of the sundrop because Quirin told him.
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>>107031205
It better be "With you by my side" just to rub salt in the wound
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>>107031240
>>107031204
There was popular legend of the Sundrop but it was considered more myth. But lots of societies put the sun at a central position in their culture, especially at more primitive phases that could have endured through the ages

Though as I understood it Quirin learned of Frederick's search for the flower and came to try to dissuade him. It would be counter productive to tell the king about it if he didn't already know when the goal was to avoid it being picked
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>>107031170
I kind of want to watch high inquisitors torturing pagan Coronians or a crusade against Arendelle because of their non-orthodox practices.

I call for holy war!
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>>107031386
I just want a sex scene.
Is that too much to ask? A sex scene between two attractive characters?
>inb4 the horses fuck
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>>107031386
Can Frollo spend a century without burning Notre Dame?
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>Varian betrays Rapunzel by sneaking up behind her and grabbing the sundrop flower
>Cassandra betrays Rapunzel by sneaking up behind her and grabbing the Moonstone
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>>107031451
>Eugene betrays Rapunzel by sneaking up behind her and grabbing her pussy
Too obvious?
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>>107031200
Walter from Hellsing
Justin Law from Soul Eater
Char from Gundam
Raimundo from Xiaolin Showdown
Aya from GLTAS
Zelos from Tales of Symphonia

Some of them come around, but jeez, does it happen often.
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>>107031494
Nah, she snuck up behind him and gave him a concussion

And they both grabbed each other's hearts
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>>107031073
could she be Gothel's real daughter?
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>>107031577
kino
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>>107025041
They said it was only 3 seasons long.
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>>107031597
WAIT SHE'S ALIVE!?
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>>107031510
I like see Rapunzel sad.
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>>107031597
Seriously? I thought we all knew she was Gothel's daughter. Ever since I saw Cassandra's picture on this site I thought you were all just playing some kind of collective meme prank pretending she wasn't. Don't tell me you all seriously thought she was anything other than Gothel's daughter? Just look at the skin and hair ffs.
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>>107031611
maybe?
you should watch the series
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>>107031611
watch the fucking shooooow
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>>107031611
It's Cassandra
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>>107031639
>>107031634
>>107031643

is there a mega, I only have season 1
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>>107031611
they did give her a very "off screen Death" scene. it was implied she would die from the fall, but thats all i could divine.
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>>107031666
here you go satan:
>>107030507
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>>107031597
Gothel cloned herself and twoah open a portal to send her clone to the future where she would grow up to return Rapunzel her golden hair and herself inherit the moonstone, you see where I'm going with this.
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>>107031678
oh, crap, sorry satan, I thought I was replying to this fellow
>>107031666
use these links, m8:
https://pastebin.com/hE0MPEXx
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>>107031386
>>107031427
Just imagine what a holy war between Corona and Arendelle be like.

Corona: Those Arandelian abominations worship some kind of ice devil. I bet they are the ones that made our crops wither and die last winter, their kin must be purged!

Arendelle: Those Coronian bastards ignore the teachings of our most holy church and worship the sun and moon. They're savages and we must eliminate them for the sake of our most holy God!
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>>107031597
been abandoned by your mother because she spend too much time looking after onother child is a major fuck up for sure

also that would make them more like sisters, and that's hot
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>>107023580

This better not be one of those “my friend has been turned evil by an overdose of power. I’ll save them with the power of love and shouting “remember who you are” type deals. It’s been done a million times.

She’d better be faking it for a good reason. We’ve seen what a good spy she can be when she caught Andrew. And what would could bring more acclaim than defeating the big bad as a moon powered double agent? Being a villain and traitor would bring her none.

Or she could actually be a villain. Still better than “remember who you are” bullshit.
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>>107031805
Anon it's "remember who you are" bullshit.
As in "remember you are a commoner woman with no penis and can therefore never satisfy a heterosexual queen ready for breeding such as myself".
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>>107031630
Tangled threads have some real fucking autists in them. I had someone argue that Cassandra's eye color was a slightly different hue and her hair "wasn't the same" (it's shorter, gee), so she couldn't possibly be Gothel's daughter.
This show is written for kids, the plot twists aren't that difficult to spot.
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It's clearly a Madoka situation.
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>>107031853
>This show is written for kids, the plot twists aren't that difficult to spot.
A shame, it has potential for so much more as shown in Queen for a Day or Rapunzel and the Great Tree. I wish there was an adult version where the writers could go all out.
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>>107031666
She literally poofed into dust
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>>107031845

Well that would just exacerbate the problem.
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>>107031845
>implying she doesn't have a massive moonstone dick that jizzes pure space magic now
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>>107031918
>awakens ever expanding swarm of indestructible spikes made of pure moon magic
>Drives an austistic savant child insane with grief and desire for revenge
>Almost unleashes a demon god upon the world
>Almost kills her friends with ancient death magic
>Mutilates her friend with said magic
>Drives said friend ever more resentful due to her headstrong nature
>Lets said friend stab herself with a primordial drop of cosmic energy and become a bitter super saiyan
Rapunzel is the worst, the worst!
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>>107031929
Agreed. You can tell that the writers tried their best to keep some of the more complex lore/themes, but it's like executives forced them to limit that stuff entirely to specials or three minute infodumps.

I'm still holding out for them to do something interesting with Eugene being the prince of the dark kingdom.
They could've made Eugene evil, but again, that'd be too fucked up for this show.

I still think they'll have at least some evil force to blame that's capitalized on Cassandra being hurt by Rapunzel. That leaked script from Mandy Moore about Cassandra being "back to normal" implies it.
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>>107031597
>>107031853

desu I can’t see Cassandra as being Gothel’s abandoned daughter, isn’t she about the same age as Rapunzel? Even with the magic flower at her side I can’t imagine Gothel being pregnant with her during the movie’s prologue. But yeah the uncanny resemblance makes it an obvious twist.

I can buy Cass and Goth being distantly related like Fry and Farnsworth though
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>>107031987
Raps will put a stop to Cassandra's reckless genderfluidity. If that whore wants to fuck women she can do so in a CONVENT.
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>>107032026
Republicunt detected. Monarch noblisse obligae, imperus rex.
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>>107032055
It could be anything, she could be a weird clone or homunculus or niece or whatever the fuck, but she has her eye color, dark curls, and is emphasized to be orphan. This show was planned pretty well, there's no way she isn't linked to her somehow. Her first line after turning evil is something that Gothel would say, too.
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>>107032119
If she was an imposter she wouldn't remember warning Rapunzel about who she trusts.
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>>107032055
>about the same age as Rapunzel?
4 years older
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>>107032119
Yeah she's a clayface golem that gained independent sentience but since going through the door her primary directive and memory as Gothel was reinstated.
Proof: ever seen Cassandra bleed or masturbate? That's right, you haven't, because she's not human.
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>>107032055
Maybe once we get live action versions of the story.
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so season 3 when
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>>107032201
Never. It will get canned like Spectacular Spiderman
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>>107032253
:(
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It's confirmed for Disney+, so we might get Season 3 with launch
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>>107032055
there's a lot that we don't know, maybe Gothel used to be a good person and then something fucked her up.

Probably is everything connected to Lord Demanitus and his research of the Sundrop and Moonstone.
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I'M FINISHED WITH MY STORY
Who's ready to have their hearts broken all over again?
https://pastebin.com/NgbTfh29
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>>107032536
Damn, didn't know there were so many of you
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>>107029156

She does add a lot to the show. It’s kind of like how TMNT doesn’t work without Raph and the Aladdin tv series wouldn’t have been half as fun without Iago. That grouchy voice among the cheerful group livens up the dynamic and I’m worried that it just won’t be as good without her around in that capacity.
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>>107032395
Reverse image search won't give me any sauce, do you know the artist of the image you posted, anon?
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For those asking when season 3 drops, D23 is a few months away. Assuming there's a Tangled panel there or something where they announce a release date, it's probably releasing close enough a few months after that time.
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>>107033102
I think the author is Qur, is on tumblr and twitter.
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>>107031597
wait a second...
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>>107023580
>this was trending for a little bit
It was funny to see people having a stronger reaction to this twist than the GoT premiere for a while anyway.
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>>107033737
I heard nothing much happened in the GOT premier anyways.
Lots of reunions, and talking about how people are connected, and then some dragon riding
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>>107033752
Yeah it was a season setup episode, but it certainly felt more comedic than usual.

>I killed your father
>oh well at least my brother is alive
>I killed him too
>...
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>>107033832
>Tangled's finale was a season setup too
Huh
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>>107033737
I've never seen GoT. Should I watch it until Season 3 drops to fill the void of no show I'm watching right now?
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>>107024682
calling it now, varian defeats ssj blue cass.
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>>107028096
She really can't be that daft.
If two of your best friends betray you and hate you with a passion that burns the sun. Then there is something wrong with you.
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>>107029374
>Wake up already. Nobody loves you, Cassandra.
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>>107031451
She betrayed them first.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJUFdlA7WDU

Now its easy to know why season 3 is cassandra's revenge
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>>107034082
I'm not gonna say she's completely innocent since that's wrong and a big part of S3 is probably Raps finding redemption for what she's done as much as it is about Varian and Cass also probably finding that redemption. But you have to realize a lot of both Cass and Varian's actions just stem from their own personalities and inherent flaws. And things like Cass getting her hand withered were just entirely her own fault.
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>>107034202
Hopefully now that Cass is out of the way Eugene can get some heroic moments in instead of always being comic relief.
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>>107031597
It's possible, but they'd have to explain exactly why a centuries-old woman would want to have a kid and give her up in the span of the four years before she kidnapped Rapunzel
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>>107034082

Varian is hardly a best friend. And I doubt Cass hates Rapunzel. She just wants something from all of this.
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>>107034369
Cass will die horribly, like when the emperor sent horus to oblivion.

this shit is berserker and horus heresy up to oblivion
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Just realized there's a Frozen novel directed at adults called "Frozen Heart". What are the chances we get a Tangled book with a more adult plot GoT style?
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>>107034748
what? what is it about?
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>>107034774
Cristoph and Anna
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>>107034774
Shows the movie from Hans point of life and you get to read his fall from a naive prince who wanted the approval of his father, to a well intentioned prince that wanted to turn Arendelle into a safe kingdom for everyone while secretly hating himself for what he was doing and finally into the cold hearted machiavellian guy we saw in the movie. It humanizes him and makes the conflict less one sided.

I wish something like that was made for Tangled. Maybe about Rapunzel struggling to win the people's acceptance due to the possibility of her being a fake princess in for the throne or Eugene protecting her from other nobles who wanted her spot.
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>>107034748
>GoT style
I'd love if the show got a bit edgier too Anon, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. It does perfectly fine for itself as a cute stealth shonen musical and the show's great for being aware of that. As for a book, I'd be fine as long as it was canon and took the show into account as well.
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>>107034909
Oh I'm okay with it not being maximum edge. Just have stakes or the risk of people actually dying without everyone having to be redeemed. Or a more complex plot that can't be solved simply by 5 minutes talk with a pet.
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>>107034936
Fair enough, I'd say I agree with all that. Especially on the character deaths. I'm not saying we need some gory onscreen thing, but there needs to be some more tangible stakes. It happens in Disney films and other cartoons, I don't see why it can't be done here.
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What exactly is Zahn Tiri? I know he's an evil warlock or something but they make him sound less like a very powerful person and more like this unstoppable monster every time he's portrayed. He even looks like one in what few visual clues we've seen. But he's clearly someone (Or something) capable of intelligent thought if he was more than able to sway Demanitus's disciples over to his side.
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>>107033970
Yeah it's alright.

It's pretty good for the first few seasons when it follows the books pretty well. Then once Dorne (a place with a lot of sand) kicks in the terrible decline happens.
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>>107035748
Not as much is revealed, only what was seen in Painter's Block and the monkey episode. Apparently Zhan Tiri is from another dimension so maybe like AT's lich king. A lovecraftian abomination that corrupts the minds of those that deal with him until they become his followers.

Since he wants the Moonstone and Sundrop, he is not omnipotent. But nonetheless extremely powerful.
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Wait where is the Cassandra's revenge thing from? Like is it the name of an S3 episode?
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>>107023580
Okay so I've seen clips of this scene, looks interesting. Is the series worth watching?
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>>107036093
Yeah. Start with "Before Ever after" then watch like the first 4 episodes of season 1 to get a feel of the series, if you like it continue.
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>>107034484

it’s not out of the question that Gothel got pregnant at least once in the centuries she was alive pre-Rapunzel; birth control definitely existed but was probably nowhere near as available or effective as it is today. them being mother-daughter is a stretch even by magic standards, she was freaking ancient when the flower was taken in by the royals.

my question is if did gothel’s friends or family (if she wasn’t an orphan herself) ever notice she just wasn’t aging? why did she want the immortality to begin with?
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>>107035956
Got it.
Also, rewatching the scroll clip where Demanitus explains stuff about it, it feels REALLY obvious Gothel was the third disciple. I'm not sure how else she'd have found the sundrop flower if only that close circle was aware of its existence. She's definitely coming back in some fashion as a spirit or something. What I'd like to know is if that's the case, why was Gothel so selfish with its power if she was working towards a greater goal to bring Zahn Tiri in? Yeah, I know the movie never had any of this lore when it was made so her just being a selfish hag is normal but now we have all this to account for.
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>>107026642
Alright Alex Hirsch
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>>107036093
If you're looking for a very cute shonen based on a Disney movie, DEEPEST LORE, and mostly enjoyable slice of life filler all in one place then do I have the news for you Anon.
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>>107036226
Don't forget great musical score by Alan Menken, the guy who made the songs for The Little Mermaid and Pocahontas.

https://youtu.be/_hbzkKGpCYU
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>>107031805
"Remember who you are bullshit" I don't get why people have such a disdain for that trope. I live that shit. You can argue its been done a million times, but so has basically everything else at this point. No matter what direction a show goes in, someone will be whining about the cliche
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>>107036112
>>107036226

Alright, thanks anons. I think I'll check it out
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>>107031654
can I get the mega for season 1?
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>>107031805
I want Cass to save herself.
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>>107032055
Oh Jesus. Cass was an accident and a failed abortion.
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>>107036314
It doesn't irk me that much personally but you have to admit it's hilariously cheap as fuck to pull and used a hell of a lot. Like seriously? You didn't remember who you were the first 23 times you were doing horrible shit to people you once loved or held you in high regard? But now that you're about to kill a primary protaganist you suddenly just "remember who you are". Like "Ah fuck, looking back I did all this awful stuff with a clear conscience. But when you put it like that the 5th time you told me, I REALLY get it now! Thanks protag! I now either absolutely loathe whoever I was under the command of or regret the all the numerous decisions I had the time to mull over and think about all the time but now that you said "THIS ISN'T WHO I AM", I guess I'm cured now!" I'm not saying it's always done horribly, but it's a bit lazy at this point.
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>>107023580
Does this plot make any sense at all?
Or is it like the Varian plotline in S1 where they had to make Rapunzel act out-of-character for it to even exist in the first place?
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>>107026326
This dark warlord guy really showed up too early. A random episode in S1 is not the right place for an end-of-the-world scenario. They should've built him up slowly.
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>>107027590
>I want this to get resolved in a satisfying way.

>Cas gets blasted by uber magic
>Raps holds Cas in her arms
>Cas: "I've always loved you."
>Lesbian kiss
>Cas dies
>Raps goes to bang Eugene
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>>107036423
But I feel like turning them evil and keeping them evil until they're killed, just seems lazy to me as well. I believe theres plenty of series that go that route too anyway. Like I said, I think no matter what its gonna be cliche.

And I mean I totally get where you're coming from too. Its just going to depend on how the tropes are handled.
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>>107028063
Are you suggesting... child servants?
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>>107036543
>Lance asks if he has an exoskeleton in this episode
>Cass gets an exoskeleton in the finale
KINO
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>>107031511
well stop liking characters then
easy solution
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>>107036851
Or learn to love them even when they make mistakes
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[s]The ending was rape.[/s]
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>Disney did another Aizen
>Disney Babies seething because this doesn't fit within their simple black-and-white worldview
>I get out the popcorn
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>>107036444
Fuck off decompression is bullshit.
>>107037507
Actually this is an OG Grom Hellscream.
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She went from cute tot to malevolent thot, what happen?
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>>107037752
What happened is a black and white morality narrative forced a perfectly decent person to become a villain.
That's the essence of destiny. It's such a simple matter when all your bad guys are already bad, but people forget destiny is indiscriminate and uncaring. If it means a higher level of legend, it will turn the good guys evil simply because it can, and there's nothing they can do about it. Cassandra, like Varian, succumbed to the great conflict, just as Rapunzel has.
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>>107037788
The black-and-white thing is what I hate the most about Disney
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>>107037788
>>107037810
Have faith guys.
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>>107038098
Faith in who? Rapunzel inserting Eugene's penis into Cassandra thus curing her off the gay?
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>>107038156
In creators. They seem fond of Cass? They wouldn't do it to us, right? I mean not like the same thing happened with Varian... It's different this time, right?
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>>107033643
That’s where I’d draw a line

Gothel has been using the flower for ages and we’ve seen she can’t go very far from it. The Dark Kingdom is more than six months journey from Corona
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>Zhan Tiri appears
>Twist is he is actually not bad guy
>Doesn't understand why his followers are so mean.
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>>107035960
We learned a long time ago that in the middle of S3 there would be an episode by that title from a leaked pic
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Can't wait for the tv movie where Maximus is the main villain.
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>>107026438
Is Cassandra going to kill half of corona?
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>>107028162
We need Acceptance
Flower gleam and glow, whither and decay

Change the fate’s design, end this destiny

Save what has been lost, break these earthly chains

Bring back what once was mine

And set the spirit free
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Watching S2 and while there's some great episodes I'm also getting travel arc fatigue a bit. Granted I'm only on episode 12, but there's a lot of stale cartoon morality lessons here or cliches like "a character has been cursed, but maybe? OR MAYBE????". I think I liked the first season more as it is right now.
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>>107038475
The first half of S2 is a bit of shit.
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>>107038475
You're not alone in that opinion
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>>107038483
First episode was great, one of the best in the show. I didn't enjoy one was much as that until the one where Raps and Cass get turned into birds which was a lot of fun. Then came the Island arc which thankfully they're past now.
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>>107024682
toffee, bill cipher, varian. what's up with people picking shitty villains?
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>>107038475
Literally what makes the first half of S1 any different? Do people really prefer sitting in one place and doing nothing, just because you can call it Slice of Life?
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>>107038500
It's easier to deal with when there isn't a vague and nebulous goal of "reach place" when you're not really sure how long that will take. The world tour arc of Gargoyles had the same issue.
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>>107038500
I prefer s2 by a huge margin
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>>107038511
Methinks you're just scared of a long journey and want to stay at home like an autist. That's right, I called you an autist. I'm bullying you, you gonna cry?
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>>107033737
That´s because GOT is fucking shit and this show isn´t
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>>107038475
S1's filler was more consistent in actual quality, but I found S2's filler more creative and interesting. Plus a lot of it is instrumental to understanding why the tweest happens.
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>>107038536
>late phase of last season GOT has people crossing their entire continent at absolutely ludicrous speeds

>Tangled the series makes a point to remind us that an epic journey takes a really fucking long time

it's an autistic detail to focus on but I appreciate it
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>>107029819
It's a fakeout "Betrayal", there to make the viewer feel relieved that it's just Eugene doing it out of love for her, and they'll eventually talk it over and everything's gonna work out fine.

And then he realizes he's being an ass, comes to his senses, and oh look, there's still ten minutes of show left. Fuck.
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>>107038550
To be fair, the Caravan crew keeps meandering a fuckton which doesn't help.
>>107038685
I get that, but the lyrics are astoundingly hopeless and dramatic for something that gets resolved pretty quickly.
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>>107038685
It's foreshadowing.
Just like the Arena episode in S1 and Great Expotations were foreshadowing of Cassandra's betrayal, this song foreshadows when in the finale of S3, Hector will use flash cards to liquidate Eugene's memory and convince him he is actually Dark Rider of the Dark Kingdom, and he was assigned on a mission as Rapunzel's fiance for the last three years in a long-term assassination attempt to destroy the Sundrop.
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Finally reached "The Great Tree". Hopefully this one's a keeper.
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>>107038837
It'll be interesting

Particularly for insight into Cassandra
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>>107023580
So why did she betray them again, I mean she already made up with Rapunzel, unless it was a fakeout
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>>107038500
S1 has much more interesting episodes, even the fillers. The main scenario is planned and hinted here and there. And there were no real expectation other than this is a cute show. S2 has to live up to the hype and makes a lot of mistakes. The most prominent proof is the use of the characters. In S1 they could use anyone any time since everyone lived in a city. In S2 there is a tight group who supposed to do everything together and when someone is missing or not connected to the general events, it is very noticeable. Hookfoot, Lance, Shorty, Owl either exists or not between scenes. Despite the characters supposedly traveling a lot there are quite a few instances of unrealistically jumping between locations like it is nothing.
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>>107038965
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>>107023580
Well I knew SOMETHING will happen to her and Lance since they do not appear in the Ever After
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>Everyone betrays Rapunzel the series
>Ft. Griffith.
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>in the end, the only one Rapunzel could trust was Mother gothel.
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Damn, Cassie's got some pipes on her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq3BYt6CDkY
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>>107039138
Post links everyone can access you ass
https://youtu.be/87HAEkf_Li0
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Wither and decay
End this destiny
Break these Earthly chains
and set the spirit free
...the spirit free

What an episode.
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>>107039263
The first recitation scene was kino
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>>107039263
Raps actually killing someone with the Hurt incantation when
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>>107039263
Tweet Tweet motherfucker
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>>107031597
If not a daughter then maybe a descendant.
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>>107031200
Kane from Stretch Armstrong. It even had another friend that turned out to be evil, so the second time it happened it completely caught me off guard.
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>>107039387
That episode was great.
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>>107031597
Cassandra is a few years older than Rapunzel and Gothel probably didn't have the flower then. Even if she did, I don't see her maintaining a pregnancy while she was dependent on the flower.

Cassandra is probably a granddaughter or something.
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Calling it now
Pascal was Zhan Tiri all along.
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Hook Brothers episode was pretty good.

> The Seal of Approval
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>Zachary Levi tweeted out his solo and the show
/ourguy/
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>>107039447
Porn of her when tho seriously that pinniped slut had total fuck-me eyes
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>>107038358
His existence is clearly connected to Lord Demanitus in some way
Maybe he was created by experimeting with the sundrop/monstone or it's Demanitus itself turned evil/splitted in two halves or some shit
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What did he mean by this?
Someone save this man and his show
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>>107039796
I mean I think a high seven is pretty fair

It has fantastic high points and some fairly meh points as well
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>>107039263
>they never used it again
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>>107039878
It was a low 8 for me before some of the more fillery episodes hit in season 2. High 7 seems pretty fair at this point in the story.
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>>107039985
Yeah

It's still far and away my favorite currently airing show but numeric ratings still have to be based on something
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>It's one of THOSE episodes
I'm collecting a checklist at this point.

>Person doesn't like protag no matter how hard they try
>Best friends fight
>Annoying person was good all along
>Protag gets "cursed"
>Protag accidentally loses memory

Any more?
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>>107040161
>Character feels unappreciated/ignored and runs away
Happens TWICE with Pascal

>New character appears and starts showing up an existing cast member. Everyone gives them shit for being jealous but the new guy was actually evil all along

>Character's old love interest reappears and tries to tear them away from the MC

>Character's free spirit/hippie sibling reappears

>Crime drama investigation episode
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>>107040161
>>107040282
I feel like Tangled is pretty good at using tropes sucessfuly. The only annoying one was seeing Pascal abandoning Rapunzel again, but if I've learned anything so far it was probably foreshadowing another betrayal
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>>107032147
Being that it's a fucking non-existent magical condition, the terms of possession vary with the writer. Sometimes the thing possessing/impersonating the character has full access to everything they know for dramatic effect. The thing could've also been dormant and activated when the plot demanded it. We just dont fucking know anything other than Rapunzel saying "Cass is back to normal now" at the end of season 3.
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>>107038191
Meh its Disney. They'll all be redeemed and appear in the wedding at the end. Then a fat guy will bump Eugene and say "Arendelle sends its regards"

to set up the sequel. That's all.
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>>107038475
I'm with you. While I think it's nice that they expanded the lore and showed us new locations, it was also a little boring due to the episodic nature of the episodes that made them feel like filler. Some even resolved things we already seen like King Pascal being similar to Pascal's Story but with less pathos.

Eugene's semi betrayal in the finale was also similar to a more rushed version of the Staylan episode.

I think that's why it felt like filler.
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>>107039263
Season 2 gets better from this point onwards.
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>>107040918
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this show a prequel to Tangled Ever After?
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>>107041106
Retcons can happen
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>>107041164
Maybe, we'll just have to wait then, but so far Hookfoot seems to have fucked off, Varian is in prison, at least for now, Cas has went evil so that just leaves Lance
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>S1 has no clear focus
>better than S2 which had a clear road trip plotline for the whole season
How does this bode for season 3? The only clear motive as of right now is just to get Cass unfucked. There's not too many loose plot threads to build off of right now (Aside from Varian and Zahn Tiri.
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>>107041210
Lance wins the Adira and adopts Angry/Red, ends up missing the wedding because of tiny thieves shenanigans
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>>107039561
once people rips her KH3 model, and SFM-Blender artists stops using Overwtach
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>>107041669
Yes daddy
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>>107041669
I think is much more easier to replicate the movie Raps model than rip KH3 like helen.
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>>107041669
You...Didn't understand who I wanted porn of, did you
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>>107041275
It's not better. It being better is a fucking meme. Stop fucking memeing. It's this kind of inability to appreciate quality and shitposting opinions as fact is why every other show ends up going to shit, because all you autists want is a tranquilizer injector called SoL, not an episodic story.
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>>107042801
i dropped here from a parachute, so i thought it was raps and cass.

so i better not ask who.
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>>107042815
the show has only S3 left, and Disney is probably working on Tangled Sequel following the cartoon.
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>>107042873
>tangled sequel

nah, they couldn't at this point. There's not really a Tangled without the hair, and nobody could take it seriously if they gave Rapunzel her long hair a THIRD time

The series is Disney throwing a bone to fans and giving an expansion to the Tangled characters and universe, but the train is absolutely stopping here
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>>107042873
It's the principle that matters.
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>>107042897
When the Horned Rat wants money, he wont stop until he gets it.

this is why we got Frozen 2
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>>107042958
Yeah but it's clear Disney couldn't give less of a shit about Tangled. I have no idea how the series got made but Frozen was a money printer so obviously they're dragging up a theatrical sequel, along with the fact that it ended far less conclusively
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>>107039561
Trevor Jr doesn't share bro sorry
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>>107042994
i see them creating a "princessverse" as a backup incase of MCU with brie fails it
Jar jar and Lucas probably teamed up to kill SW once and for all
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>>107043042
Of course they could pull a X The Last Stand and in the last moments reveal Rapunzel still has the PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER

But I doubt it
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>>107043042
Princessverse will be 100 percent real. With Marvel, Disney conquered a market of young boys with a legacy that will last decades. Now that the MCU is most likely winding down a great deal after Endgame and Star Wars is still in a little recovery period after its most autistic fans reeeed TLJ into oblivion, young girls are their next target market. Crash It Carl 2 tested the waters for this. And I guaranfuckingtee Frozen 2 looking more "serious" and taking place outside Arendelle along with the DEEPEST in this show are all to set this up.
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>>107043204
Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to be a spastic retard if they reference the Moonstone or Zhan Tiri in Frozen 2

I'd just like to try to keep my autism under a certain amount of control and not speculate beyond one show at a time until some actual developments occur
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>>107043204
>frozen 2 has a post-credits scene
>the characters are investigating mysterious black rocks
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>>107043042
>>107043243
"You think you're the only princessin the world? Blondie, you've become part of a bigger universe, you just don't know it yet."
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>>107043855
I'm here to talk to you about the ROYAL initiative
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>>107043204
Autism, the princesses are all from different time periods and the part of Destroy it Daniel was only just for the sake of it.
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>>107043910
I know it's autism and a stretch, and the appearance of them in Break it Boris was leaning way more toward comedic/general fanservice. But put yourself in the shoes of the money vacuum that is Disney. You've got a tried and true model with the MCU, learned a brutal lesson in overexposure for cinematic universes with Solo, and have a public that isn't really clamoring for a princess film every year but probably wouldn't mind an uptick in their appearance. And when this said public consists of little girls ripe for merch sales, the general public who just goes to see the latest Disney films for their consistent quality and a nice family weekend, and droves of tumblrites who are as ready to overreact to a trailer for a princess film as the average rebbit-abusing YouTube reactor for a Star Wars or Marvel flick, you mean you AREN'T gonna take that opportunity? Especially when all those "IS LE DIDNEY MOOVIES ALL IN LE SAME UNIVERSE!!!11" theories have been all over the internet for fucking ages and normies always parrot it online ad nauseam.
Of course they don't NEED to do it, especially when these films make a billion each on their own anyway. But I feel like it'd be untrue to say the mouse hasn't tossed around the idea at all.
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Someone on tumblr noticed the hand goes full skelly in a split second. That's pretty fucking metal.
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>>107043875

>Cassandra only "betrayed" Rapunzel and took the Moonstone so that she could gain superpowers to unite with the princesses and battle an extradimensional threat to all their existences
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>>107042873
>the show has only S3 left
Source?
If this is true, I know short and sweet is always better than long and shit, but I'm gonna miss this show so bad. Chris and his crew have done a really great job with it and when it's gone I don't think we'll get another show like it for a long-ass time. And I mean a LONG, long time. The timing was really too perfect to do anything like this ever again. I wish them all the best in their future endeavors and hope they keep making great shit.
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>>107045299
It was said from the start that it would be 3

So at least they had a plan at the outset
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Just finished S2 for the first time. Its highs were super good, but I didn't care for the "fillers" as much as the ones in S1. I guess the novelty of having a Tangled animated series wore off by early S2. That being said I still really enjoyed it and can't wait for season 3. Nice to have another show to add to my list.

Along with season 2 of both Hilda and She-ra, Season 6 of SU and tons of weeb shit like Jojo
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>>107045599
You mean they had a guaranteed 3 seasons or that's all they knew they'd get?
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>>107042873
>>107045299
They planned out the show specifically with three seasons in mind. (with, for instance, Moon Cass planned out back in 2014). It was always going to be like this, and it's better if they can put an entire, well-done story out there without stretching it out unnecessarily.

There's no sequel movie planned either. Roy Conli the exec producer explicitly forbid it, which is part of why they were allowed to destroy Rapunzel's tower in the show.
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>>107045797
Understandable. Now I'm REALLY gonna miss this show though. I hope Chris and Co do something cool on Disney+ afterward.
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Three seasons sounds about right. If they go all in with story next time there's more than enough time for a satisfying ending.
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>>107030586
"They couldn't have it make sense because then people would've seen it coming."
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>>107045797
The tower falling was a really heavy moment and I don't think it would have had as much impact in a sequel movie. Super glad they got to do it.
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>>107045767
both, well, as much as a show can be guaranteed these days

They knew it was only gonna be 3 when they started
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>>107046070
>>107046004
It's sad, but it's a good thing we've gotten



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