Why didn’t Doctor Strange just chop off Thanos’ arm with a portal?
>>105858844I assume it wouldn't have worked and he already knew it wouldn't because he saw himself attempt it in one of the futures he looked into.
>>105858851Why wouldn’t it have worked?
>>105858887Because tony would have gotten the gauntlet and fucked up things even moreThanos needed to win to ruin the gauntlet so no one else can use it and be corrupted by its power
>>105858893Why didn’t he just portal the gauntlet into the sun/a black hole/an obscure inaccessible area of the galaxy
He can't just open a portal mid-arm, otherwise he would have been able to kill Thanos as soon as he saw him.They would have to pull his arm into a portal and they were struggling with Thanos standing still as it was.
>>105858918>14,000,604 different possibilities of failureYou could assume that your idea is one of those that failed
Why didn’t Doctor Strange go back in time and either kill Thanos as a baby or prevent him from getting the stones?
>>105858969he did and it failed
>>105858844Because he had the space stone. He can control space. Meaning dispelling the portals is well within his means. Also with the reality gem he could reattach limbs. The only way for him to be able to do this would be when he's incapacitated, but in order for that to happen, he needs to be lending his strength to holding him down.Source: I watched the movie
>>105858969I think it's the same answer for all these "what if" scenarios. We can assume he looked at that possibility and saw it wouldn't work. We don't know specifically why it wouldn't work just that apparently it wouldn't. The way it played out in the movie was the "only way"
>>105858851>>105858877That seems like a cop out. >Why didn't he do X>Because he saw it didn't work but we won't explain how so instead they all act stupid.>>105858974Won't do him a lot of good if his arm was chopped off and the gem got portaled somewhere safe.
>>105858844Cause Wong was the guy who chopped someone's arm with a portal
>>105858851Fav only looked at 14 million possible realities. It’s very possible that he didn’t even see a single one in which this came up (especially since they had the advantage to pick any location on the planet, an infinite number of possibilities).
>>105858918Gee if only thanos had some kind of space manipulating mineral. Also strange has never been shown to travel that far.
>>105859104>strange puts thanos in portal. >thanos uses space gem to dissipate it.
>>105859163Well he only saw one reality in which they won so he tried to steer them down that path. Pretty much everything he did was to try and reach that outcome including giving up the time stone. Clearly it didn't involve cutting Thanos hand off with a portal.
>>105858851I think Strange knew Thanos HAD to win but it had to be very close to make Thanos worry on the next attempt they make. That's why he calmly hands over the stone, because Peter Quill has done his part freeing him.Thanos is so strong you can't beat him in a straight fight, and the infinity gauntlet takes him to a whole other level, but Thanos' one weakness is his mind. He's not all-knowing nor all-seeing, so making him think he's won means that he will be more passive.Watch as the big reveal is Strange explaining step by step what he did to push every event after into perfect alignment to fix everything.Maybe the snap happening, causing Antman to be stuck in a subatomic space is good because he's alone now and has to figure it all out for himself the true technique of it, which in turn they are able to exploit to travel through space/time to save Tony and the others. (Maybe Hank Pym would have been too reluctant to help)I dunno. But I think saving Tony Stark was the most important move of all.
>>105859197Oh my god, it's like talking to a wall. NOBODY'S ARGUING IT SHOULD WORK, ASSHOLE! We're arguing the heroes didn't try it. There's a lot of obvious shit they didn't even try and saying it was because STRANGE SAW THE FUTURE isn't satisfying. It feels like a cheap way to explain stupidity in the script after the fact. It's bullshit head cannon, morons spout to make it look like the thing they just watched wasn't idiotic and full of holes.
>>105859104Okay, but that was the best ,if not only, way top make the movie. If all the Avengers did every possible combination of things that could have done that might have potentially defeated Thanos, he movie would just have been 6+ hours of people trying and and failing to kill him.
>>105859282>Okay, but that was the best ,if not only, way top make the movie.Bullshit and even if so, If that's your best then it's a clear sign you shouldn't make the movie in the first place then. You don't have to run through ever contingency but you do have to at least cover the most obvious shit.
>>105858918Someone would find it. You want a kree with a gauntlet?The only option is for the gauntlet to be broken with as little consequence as possible
>>105859301I mean this complaint is pretty useless since the second part isn’t out yet
>>105859456Once more I call bullshit. I don't care how they explain why everyone is an idiot later on because your movie shouldn't only make sense in retrospect. This is a bad script.
>>105858918>>105858844Thanos literally shit on a black hole that Strange threw at him
>>105859462Yeah, but it's better than the one you're suggesting.
>>105859462Honestly I think the fact they managed to answer every possible question without having to go through th process of showing people trying and failing over and over is the sign of GOOD writing not bad.
>>105859153Why didn’t Wong chop off Thanos’s arm then
>>105859842Wong never even saw Thanos. He went home after the NYC battle to enjoy his tuna melt.
Honestly, that part in addition to everyone handing over Thanos the stones were the laziest shit in the entire MCU>so many potential ways of beating Thanos even with the stones he already has>yeah, no can do buddy, saw the futureSo in 14.000.000 possible futures (14 MILLION), there was not a single one where he wouldn't have killed everyone? Really? Fuck outta here. I can get with that shit for some things but that was just lazy and retarded fans are eating it up like goddamn drones. That was an asspull and people are ignoring it.Also, to everyone that says he would have used the space stone, you're fucking retards>Spidey and Tony grab the hand with the gauntlet>Strange opens the portal>they go through while holding the hand and cut the hand offDone. I know it's a cape movie and all but that was just piss poor writing
>>105859806I get what you are trying to say but while it's a convenient method, it's bullshit. I WOULD have accepted it if the time stone showing futures would have taken too much time and Strange had just gone with "I saw a thousand possible futures...." but them going with 14 million is just ridiculous and unbelievable
>>105859255But they did try to separate Thanos and the gauntlet, you're basically just complaining that they didn't do it your way, or that the movie didn't become a Road Runner cartoon where they try dozens of wacky plans before realizing shit's fuckedAnd Strange's vision of the possible realities absolutely is a valid explanation if you're specifically asking "why didn't Strange do X"
>>105860477Are you mentally handicapped? You can't just set up perfect examples of how to beat him (portals) and then just expect people not to ask plausible questions. If they had shown the portals not to work for decaptitations, it would have been fine. instead, they left it and failed to address why a perfect plan wouldn't have worked. Why are people unwilling to admit that Disney's writers were dogshit?
>>105858844>>105859104They literally showed you him watching 6000 or whatever possible futures? What, you want them to show you each one of them individually? You want Kevin Feige to hold your hand when you're walking to the theatre too?Like, yes, the fight contains a million little problems, most notable being Star-Lord probably. And no, Infinity War and the MCU as a whole are not perfect, with much of it not even being good. But the film explicitly shows you that the eventuality you, me and all of us saw was the only one Strange saw with any chance of victory, with the last stage of it (or the ENDGAME, if you will) determining the overall result. This is not a plot holeYou know, there are two kinds of people in this world. People who can extrapolate from partial information,
>>105860514They addressed it, you moron. Strange saw the future. That's not "bullshit after the fact headcanon", that's in the fucking movie, during the setup to the fight. Not the anon you're arguing with, just sick of you not understanding a fairly basic plot point.
>>105860514>The quality of writing depends on a possible fight move in an action sceneYour complaint is autistic and worthless, especially because as much as you want to deny it Strange's visions can be interpreted as the movie telling you "no, the fanfiction you're imagining wouldn't work, Thanos isn't supposed to be beaten here"If i were to be as autistic as you then i could argue Strange simply didn't have a chance, the fight shows Thanos was clearly able to keep up with his magic fuckery, we already know he can teleport and manipulate space, and when they incapacitated him to try remove the gauntlet Strange was one if those struggling to keep him in place, that kinda makes busy
>>105860247>implying the guantlet being usable at all is a good thing Brainlet
Because there's only one PERMENANT solution to Thanos' evil.
Well seems like the portals are some kind of space related magic, so maybe Thanos could break them like he broke that mirror dimension magic with the reality stone.
>>105858887i do think the portal wouldn't close all the way on Thanos because of all the gem crap and would sort of get stuck around his arm.Would've been tits to see that happen and BTFO Doctor Strange :P
>>105858844>Strange: we need to get back to Earth. Turn this spaceship around>Tony: I don't know how to pilot this thing, we have no choice but to go wherever it's taking us>Doctor Strange has a ring that can open up portals to anywhere, but he can't use it for some reason
>>105861619Except for the part where Iron Man convinces Strange to take the fight to Thanos on Titan and makes this argument invalid
How do we know Strange can open portals off Earth?
>>105862124He does it on Titan.
>>105860517What's the other kind of person, faggot?
>>105858887Thanos has the goddamn Reality Stone. Any harm into his body becomes nothing.
We don't even know that a portal would close around Thanos's arm. His durability is absolutely ridiculous, he handles infinity stones that fuck other people up on physical contact. Tony drew a single drop of blood from him, and his only other significant injury was from Stormbreaker, which is outright stated to be a god-killing weapon. Plus, Thanos might be able to use the Space stone or something to negate the portal's effects. Power over space means negating teleportation and movement across space just as much as it means controlling teleportation/movement.
>>105859511Actually It was the other way around.
>>105858887>Has the Space Stone>can literally control the space around anything, grants telekensis, teleportationHmm let’s count the possibilities >creates his own force field to block the Sling ring portal>teleports away before the portal can closes>uses the Space Stone to stop Stranges hands like how he stopped Loki from stabbing him>uses the Space Stone to swaps places with literally anyone else there >Teleport Strange to the opposite end of the universe As long as you have an imagination, this list can go on. The fact that he also has Power, Reality, and Soul Stones add eve more possibilities.Stop acting retarding using “hurrrr well why couldn’t X just do Y?” logic and actually use critical thinking skills
>>105859204Most intelligent post ITT
>>105860848Gordon for God's sake, you can't rape the Titan! He has the Reality Gem, if you try to rape him he'll just make it so you rape yourself instead!
>>105858851Wonder how many of those futures consisted of the team actually killing Thanos but they fuck reality up ten times worse with the gauntlet. And the single victory was the only time things are brought back perfectly normal at the end.
>>105859153>>105859842>>105859867Why did Wong just go home and stop giving a shit about everything after Strange was taken?
>>105865421I can definetly see Starlord trying to use it to bring Gamora back.
>>105865450I think he said he needed to protect the Sanctum. Although you would assume protecting all of reality would kinda take priority over that.
>>105858887>>105858851Thanos would've beaten them singlehandedly
>>105858844I dunno anon. He seems perfectly capable of doing it.Just like I was perfectly capable of simply kissing Mariana in my second year at college but decided against it because I assumed it would never work. Except three years later she asked me why I didn't do it when she practically threw herself in my arms because she actually had a crush on me, but now it was too late because she was already happily engaged to a new guy that took her to see the world.WHY DIDN'T STRANGE JUST CUT HIS ARM OFF!?!
>>105860247You dont even know what the space stone does do you.
>>105858844The Gems would prevent it from closing or even forming. It's only magic, and the Gems encompass every kind if power - magic is either Mind or Soul.
>>105859249>I think saving Tony Stark was the most important move of all.I'm going to be curious to see how Endgame fills in this piece. IW made it very obvious that Strange's keikaku hinges on Tony surviving past Titan so there must be something he and ONLY he can do to give them the victory in the end. I'm sure we'll have a zillion threads picking it apart afterward, but I can't help but be curious.
>>105865679Protecting the Sanctum IS protecting reality. Bad things happen if the Sanctums go down, like Dormammu.
>>105864226but why couldn't they just kill him when the cute bug girl had him sleeping? why couldn't he just like slice his head off or something
>only 1 out of a trillion ways work>not like 3 or somethingStrange could've said the other two have horrible consequences or something
>>105858844Why didn't Loki run away with the tesseract ? Why the black guy didn't teleport the tesseract/Loki/hulk/thor away ?
>>105858918Because somehow that would've turned out worse.Like maybe tossing the Infinity Gauntlet with that many stones already in it into a black hole somehow blows up the entire universe.
>>105866511Because you were watching the timeline that beats Thanos and this is how
>>105860517i like you
>>105858844Why they didn't shot the escape pod that was getting out of the Death Star?